Bielsa flies in for Everton talks

For me, Dyche is the reality of where we are. Give him the job.

I might just pop down there later on and have a word with Vinny O'Connor, who must have pitched a tent up outside Fiinch FarmF, as he's been there for four consecutive days now! Poor fella must be freezing. Anyone got a purple dildo!! 🤭🤭

There are lots of managers out there that would jump at the chance of managing in the Premier League, but we do what we always do – draw up a shortlist of out-of-work managers with premier league experience (who the owner has heard of) and add a few ‘legends' to the list.

Bielsa and Dyche are polar opposites – why can't we look for a specific type to suit the DoF and his strategy? It could be done – the likes of Todesco is an example. Why not invite him over too and see if he's a good fit?

Appointing Dyche makes sense – I get it – but the EFC recruitment processes of managers is amateur and for a Premier League club, that's not good enough.

And Barrett-Baxendale is doing interviews with a couple of days to go. What in the world is her value add? Is she there asking if they understand EitC and they're prepared to do hospital visits at Crimbo?

Get the fuck out of here. It's an absolute complete and utter shambles and everyone one of them should have walked. We're finished.

In fact, why are we even interviewing anyone? It makes it look like we hold the knowledge, and we are running the rule over young aspirants, when it is the polar opposite of that.

We have people plucked from the charity sector, with no knowledge or background of football let alone professional football at elite level, adjudicating as to who we should go with. It's a total farce.

The thing which infuriates me about it is, it's not random that Barrett-Baxendale got that job. She's a shield. A loyal soldier for Bill, and one who is difficult to attack.

"Isn't she wonderful, she's worked for Evertonians in the direst need."

"You're just having a go at her cos she's a woman" – it's the Greta Thunberg playbook.

Hopefully we get somebody that will spend more time with our players in training, etc

He will need time and a squad overhaul to play the way he wants. If we have to wait Corberan could be a more forward thinking appointment in the summer?

Right now with this squad and time ticking away relentlessly in this transfer window I cannot see past Dyche as being the best bet to keep us up.

The quality young potentials are likely being sold and they will be replaced by two or three loans or bargain, time served professionals to scrap our way to safety.

That looks like the short term survival plan?

I think both of them are good managers and could eb good choices but what is strange and characteristic of Everton over the last 8 years is that both these coaches have wildly different approaches and philosophies.

Brighton lost Graham Potter and straight away bought in De Zerbi, a manager with a similar emphasis on attacking, energetic football and high pressing.

Well run clubs have a continuity of identity and style; the players are bought to fulfill the remit and if one manager leaves then another with similar philosophy is bought in with often minimal disruption.

We have lurched from Koeman to Allardyce to Silva to Ancelotti to Benitez. All different styles requiring different players to enact their philosophy. No wonder our squad is a mess!

Our board haven't got a clue. They have so far interviewed two managers who are failures. What for? When we want success. Even if that success only means staying in the Premier League.

BBC reporting that Duncan is going to Forest Green and I for one would like to wish him well.

Cue DCL injury flare up... Sean Dyche now favourite with all the bookies and odds shortening all the time. Dyche it is then they usually have the inside information.

Dyche at least offers some kind of stability, something we haven't seen and badly need since Moyes left the club.

I would be excited at the prospect of Bielsa coming in but, as others have said, the squad would need a full preseason in order to acclimatise to the high energy play.

Imagine our defence pushing-up to halfway I shudder at the thought of our cruise liners trying to turn in pursuit of another speedboat.

It has to be Dyche, although I think us winning enough games to stay up might be beyond him. However, the odd win and plenty of draws and at least we wouldn't be in freefall.
With a few other teams on the slide, a new hard-to-beat Everton might escape.

Whoever it is, it better be soon, as that window is going to shut.

Right now with this squad and time ticking away relentlessly in this transfer window I cannot see past Dyche as being the best bet to keep us up. The quality young potentials are likely being sold and they will be replaced by two or three loans or bargain, time served professionals to scrap our way to safety.

That looks like the short term survival plan ?

What we need from our next manager is to get us 20 points from our last 19 games assuming 35 league points will keep us up.

It appears typically random of Everton to choose such different footballing philosophies for its short-listed candidates. Shouldn't Thelwell have a template of how we want this squad to play and short-listing candidates based on that?

It will be a distinct advantage if the manager knows the club, the players and the premiership. If they are dead set on Bielsa or Dyche, then choose the manager most likely to get us those 20 points - Dyche. He will simplify the gameplan and start with making us hard to beat.

He also seems a straight and engaging bloke.

But let's not over-eulogise him or claim he didn't have Burnley headed for relegation when he was sacked in April 2021. He had a bad season that year and I hope he has learned from it.

Needs supporting by everyone, players especially, to get out of this mess.

This is why we are in this mess. The squad is a mismash of styles from previous managers.

If this is on Thelwell then he's obviously got no long term plan if this is Moshiri saying these two only pick one then Thelwell should go on principle.

I'll support anyone who comes in but we seriously need to double down on getting the board and owner gone.

Yet again they have shown they have no idea what they are doing. It's groundhog day again.

The writing had been on the wall for a while with Frank why didn't they plan ahead and have a list of successors lined up to go.

Unfortunately it's not the time for long-term, we need a short time fix to get out of this mess.

If there are any other suitable names that could do that job that we could afford and want it, then let's hear them.

It should be made clear to Dyche that he is only interim manager. Please don't offer him multi-year deals like we did with Sam only to have to pay him off.

This works for both parties. He saves us from relegation. He adds a massive club to his CV and Barrett-Baxendale gives him a good reference. Everyone happy.

Whoever it is, welcome to the fuckin circus, lads, hope you've got the best jester suits available.

Idiots.

I would still prefer Dyche. Just think first and foremost he would make us hard to beat. Maybe score more often from set pieces. Will give all the players a chance. Just hoping I guess.

But our only goal should be to stay up. Even thinking about the long-term is, in my opinion, a waste of time due to the uncertainty of the club's league position.

Whether or not we stay up is a roll of a dice. And we need to roll a six. I honestly don't think the choice of manager will make much of a difference. Bielsa is just as likely as Dyche to keep us up and vice versa.

As a native of these islands he will know the potential of the club and realise what an honour it would be to manage it regardless of the doldrums of recent decades.

The Argentine approach (if news reports are right) appears to have a whiff of the Koeman about it a vibe of we'd be lucky to have him. Not good.

I've always liked Dyche since he faced down Klopp and we have needed an abrasive street fighter to shake the club up for decades. But if he comes I hope our vociferous lunatic fringe give him time.

So is the plan to sell the club to the players we desperately need without a manager? I think it is. There is incompetence, and then there is the jaw-dropping idiocy of this lot.

The simple and sensible thing to do.

We have the players who can play in a normal 4-4-2/4-5-1 system, and hopefully we can add a forward and a midfield general to help Gueye.

Get the basics right and I am sure the players are good enough to get us to mid table.

Bielsa would be madness.

With Moyes being a former appointment of chairman Bill Kenwright and majority shareowner Farhad Moshiri apparently a fan of Espirito Santo, it's looking like it'll come down to a battle of wills between the two without much consideration being paid to who Brands would want, despite the Dutchman being in charge of transfers and setting the strategic direction for the club in his role as Director of Football.
(June 2021)

Less than two years later and we still have this apparent divide, little wonder we find ourselves in a mess, perhaps, we should appoint two managers, one for Goodison and one for the away games.

The new guy will need all the luck in the world, to try and fix the 'back of the house' and the 'front of house' I hope whichever it is, tells the owner and the board to only look at his results on the park, and keeps the lot of them at arm's length, whilst he gets on with the job he is hired to do.

Dyche ticks both boxes but if we weren't relegation threatened Bielsa would have been a more exhilarating ride.

Guess what? Our goals conceded actually stacks up ok compared to everyone except the top 3.

We're trying to solve the wrong problem. I'm not even sure they'd know that though.

To have two polar opposite managerial styles shows you the clowns running this club have learnt nothing and are being reactive not proactive again. A year from now we'll probably be looking again same arguments same reactionary appointment from board. It's groundhog day all over again. Last year it was Lampard or Pierra, rock or hard place, this year these two with probably same results.

It's not for me to pick a manager. It's for those supposed experts to decide.

If I had to choose out of these two it would be Dyche simply because the players we have currently would fit better with his style of play.

Doesn't mean he's the best choice either.

No matter who it is I'll back them fully and support them and the team.

Bielsa hasn't got the players or the time to implement his vision.

That's a really good point, and I only noticed it yesterday about the number of goals Everton has conceded compared to the rest around us in the division.

Some would argue that the goals conceded doesn't fully reflect the number of chances offered to our opponents, and that is probably fair. But it's pretty obvious to me, that It's scoring and creating chances that has been the real issue.

Have we got the firepower within the squad, the answer would have to be No. Can we buy it before the 31 January? Unlikely, unless we get really lucky with a loan or cheap buy.

Bielsa allegedly wants faster defenders, because he likes his team to play on the front foot and it's common knowledge that Everton have only been playing on the back foot for years.

Dyche – the only logical choice left.

Just don't fart around, DO IT! The house is on fire and you haven't even called the fire brigade.

Who knows, he might even be able to teach Iwobi how to tackle.

Say, for argument's sake, we're halfway through the season. If we go down the 'organised/defensive' route we might concede, what, 5 goals less than the first half of the season? Bear in mind that 23 conceded would be the 5th best record in the league for the first half of the season, so it won't happen anyway!

We've scored 15. Second worst in the league. Surely there's more scope for getting that to midtable level (which would be about 10 to 15 goals added) than there is of us becoming a defensive unit amongst the very best in the league.

Very numbers focused and a bit Moneyball, I know. But it makes sense right?

The number of league goals conceded for Everton stands at 28 from 20 games, so 1.4 per game.

In the bottom seven, only West Ham have conceded less. A tightening up in defence always helps, but only if we start creating and taking chances.

"Why fight the box you're put in?" 🤷‍♂️

Sean Dyche discusses the perception of his playing style.. pic.twitter.com/GJvScIiiGq

— Sky Sports Premier League (@SkySportsPL) October 24, 2022

This tallies somewhat with what i've seen on the pitch where we seem to give up endless opportunities.

The main thing is for the team to be better organised (shouldn't be too hard) and I think Dyche could bring that. He's not a glamourous option but I think he may be the best fit with the players we have.

A narrow 4-4-2 with hard-working players and direct football, hoping to catch teams on the break or grab a set piece.

Pickford
Coleman Tarkowski Mina Mykolenko
Townsend Onana Gueye Iwobi
Calvert-Lewin Gray

It's not great but it's all we have. I wonder who he would target if he came in? Possibly an upgrade at full-back, either side. Probably at right-wingback, though I think Townsend may be quite a Dyche player in the way as he works hard whilst scoring the odd long-ranger.

I watched a lot of Burnley over the years and they actually played some nice footy, even a game against us they had 40 passes then scored and actually played us off the park.

The guards at the home for incurable optimists are searching for you. Having said that, hopefully you're right.

One would have them launching Hail Mary ball's to the edge of the opposition box. The other will run them into the fucking ground.

Keane, Holgate and Big Yerry will also be on to their agents shitting themselves in case the mad Argie gets it.

Part of me wants Bielsa to get the nod as I'm beginning to worry I may never see an Everton team trying to get into the opposition half again, but then I dismiss the notion as a momentary lapse of reason.

This has gone beyond personal choices now. We simply have to get behind whoever gets the nod and pray he can get a tune out of this crew.

I just don't know to be honest, but given that short interview that Marc @49 has given the link to, it would seem that Dyche has the ability to create a team ethic, based on hard work.

Whether he has the nous to create a team that will be able to produce enough goals to win enough points, I'm not so sure.

He's also got experience of working with not much money and getting the best out of average players at the wrong end of the league. I think he would do well for us and gives us the best chance of staying up.

It will be fun to see him giving Klopp some stick at the next derby too as they don't seem to get on at all!

You couldn't have 2 more polar opposites.

Scattergun…

Dyche Out!!!

WHAT A GOAL | 24-Pass Move v Everton

Me Mrs has a blue one, will that do?

What evidence is there to support the notion that he can get us out of this mess? Should he, however, pull us out of this, I will be the first to eat humble pie and say so here but, frankly, I don't get it.

The manager has to be confirmed before you can call for his head.

Maybe he might also bring Aaron Lennon back.

Burnton, Burnton.

He has a track record of keeping shit teams up.
He doesn't suffer fools.
His teams are well-organised and generally defend well.
He's pragmatic, doing the best with what's available.

I'm not saying he'd give me confidence... just a bit of hope. The other names have far less evidence to support them, in my view.

I can't and won't give up on them so whoever they appoint, just get us the points we need.

Then sell or fix the club at the right level, Mr Moshiri.

It should not be Bielsa now.

The alternative is to appoint Baines or Rooney to oversee inevitable relegation and get in a progressive young manager / coach to work in a completely overhauled model that we develop in the Championship.

Dyche gives us the best chance to stay up.

So is it Bielsa who will run this squad into the ground and possibly/probably relegation, or Dyche who also won't stand any nonsense, and keep us up!, but where do we go from there?

Is Dyche another Eddie Howe who has previously not been given the opportunity he now has at Newcastle. Hopefully we may hear today if it's Dyche or tomorrow if it's Bielsa.

However, the window shuts on Monday, so here we go again, more panic buys with little or no time to negotiate player(s) contracts.

But now, with hardly any time to work with the players and where games will come thick and fast, and little to no change in playing squad, then Dyche seems the option who can be pragmatic and get organisation.

I cannot believe that Barrett-Baxendale has any part in this process nor that she is interviewing. If true it would rank, in my mind, as the single most disturbing thing I have ever heard in over 50 years as a Blue.

I don't think he will be as bad as many make him out to be, Carlo had a lot of time and admiration for him when he was with us, so that is a good reference, even though he did walk out on us.

He was idolised for the most part by Burnley Fans. Pity about having been a RS Supporter when growing up, but I'm sure his allegiances will change once he is in the hot seat. Let's get this announced and get a contingency plan for the Transfer Window while we still have a few days to go.

The Future's Bright, The Future's Ginger!

Each day that goes by without an appointment puts us a day closer to relegation as it's one day less for the guy to bring players in and work with the existing, just make a fuckin decision.

Can't wait for the presser where it's a photo of Dyche with Denise in a headlock.

Ginger Mourinho – as my Burnley mate likes to sing.

Bielsa for me need the whole system shaking up and he is the man to do it. Fast pressing attacking football no more pass around the back Pep wanabees, or sit back and see how long we can hold on.

This is going to be a rollercoaster ride till the end of the season. And I would prefer a ride on the big one than a trip on the ghost train.

We are going down if we don't start scoring goals goals and more goals. Striker in now hopefully with the Gordon money and let's involve a couple of the young lads, Mills etc, go down fighting at least.

Are we looking for someone to keep us up? is that it?

Yes, Geoff that is it. As much as we all find it hard to believe that's the situation we're in.

Staying up this season, with where we're at, will be a minor miracle in itself.

According to Wiki he grew up in Kettering supporting guess who?

So we've a ready-made reason for hounding him out.

I often felt with him that it was a case of "Give me the tools and I will do the job."

Hopefully, if he is appointed, he will be able to do something positive with our "tools". (Pun intended.)

"He's got red hair but we don't care"

And the last ginger manager we had saved us from relegation and got us into Europe.

I also think that whoever is appointed a large section of the fans wont want him, but we need to come together as a club and give him our full backing.

I would also say that the protest by the different groups has been very successful in as much as the world and his wife know the majority of fans would like both the owner and the board removed.

But I think the banners need to be put away and just like the protest group say to Kenwright if you love the club then go, I would say to them if you love the club as you do then call off the protest and let the new manager see that at the end of the day the club is far more important than carrying on with the protest.

Not saying he is the answer but just giving some perspective.

I tend to agree with you about the protests being suspended until such time as Everton's fate is known, one way or the other. There's going to be no changes, at least voluntarily, in the hierarchy until the summer at the earliest. Now is the time to fully focus on the team out on the pitch and try and help them to maintain Everton's place in the top division.

What would Everton do?- use no imagination at all. But apparently according to Bill Everton always get it right.

If Dyche had been available twelve months ago he would have been my first choice. Then I would have been in a minority. Now most fans are realistic about the type of character we need and the calibre of manager we can attract. I hope everyone at the club, including all the board members take collective responsibility for the appointment and support the manager through the difficult times ahead.

I also hope the fans unite behind the club, the new manager and the players and for the moment leave to one side their discontent with the board or individuals on it.

We've got such an unimaginative board, if Brighton or Brentford lost their manager again, they'd have a list of young, intelligent candidates. We have Dyche.

I appreciate the short-term need to stay up but long or even medium-term, this shows no forward thinking (as usual). We'll be sticking to an outdated mode of football with a manager that never plays young players. I think the only one that he did at Burnley is McNeil, although I'm happy to be corrected as I didn't exactly follow them closely.

I don't think Bielsa would work well with our mad board but at least he wouldn't take any shit and he plays young players.

If as stated he reviews how the board functions and whether he is being supported, id give him a month...tops.

That means defensive football and as everyone knows from Moyes and Allardyce that gives you survival but nothing else not a great plan going forward.

It's time for realism not fanciful thinking.

This is going to get awkward, I fear, Dyche might become impatient and pull out of the running, and Bielsa might say not now, I'll come in the summer, meanwhile, poor old Leighton Baines and Tait are left holding the baby.

we need to re-establish ourselves as a low toid table premier league team over the next 3-4 years.

Only then will we be in a stable league and financial position to then attempt more lofty aspirations.

The last thing the players need now is yet another complicated system to try and get used to.

It's back to basics with Dyche
Back 4
Strong midfield
Plenty of motivation

That is what the team needs.

But our situation is dire. I have my doubts he will be able to change anything quickly enough to keep us in the Premier League. And he's volatile. Adding volatility to our current plight won't help.

Dyche on the other hand… boring, uninspiring, unattractive football? Or is it pragmatic, effectively and industrial? We can only hope for the later.

Despite our board's ineptitude I cannot believe that they wouldn't have similar concerns. So if we do appoint Bielsa, I think it's an admittance on their part that they expect us to be relegated and that Bielsa is the better choice to push for promotion next season.

Mike Walker is still technically alive surely he'd be worse?

The point you made is the same as one I made in another thread. The priority is making this team into one that can create chances and score goals.

I may be wrong, but I'm not sure Dyche can do that in the games that we have left. In fact, I'm not sure anyone can.

I'll take the 1-0

Is it Cardinal Dyche, Cardinal Bielsa or Cardinal Sin?

I don't think our criteria is how good someone is, it's more a case of someone not being as bad as someone else.

Bielsa would be a gamble as to whether we could be effective in the transfer market for his style. Results at Leeds showed he is rigid in style of play regardless of results.

Surely this is a bad taste early April Fool?

I think I read somewhere that his brother was the Argentine Foreign Minister once.

The smoke is brown. https://www.deseret.com/1999/3/21/19435594/dogs-doing-their-part-to-add-to-mexico-city-air-pollution

The incurable Kenwright cancer has finished us off. Just look at how amateurish the last month, two months has been and all the revelations that many – and some still don't – didn't believe.

He is everywhere and in everything. If we are extremely lucky we'll get out this current mess but the club under Kenwright is near death.

The frightening thing is, they seem to be sure that they're doing a great job!!!!

If he gets the job, he needs to appreciate that we are a traditional giant of the game and his place in history awaits – what we don't need is another Benitez – trying to change everything overnight. H

e needs to embrace the club – it's in a mess and needs a bit of TLC – I hope he can see that's part of what he's getting involved in.

I still reckon we should have gone balls out for Tuchel.

Thelwell will be doing the interview on the football side of things, DBB, as CEO will be there to see what his demands are, and under instructions what the club is willing to pay.

S.Dyche Burnley record. Premiership, Games 258, Wins, 72 Draws 68, Losses 118.
G/F 249, G/A 364.

Hired by Burnley in 2012.
Promoted from the Championship in 2013-14 season
Relegated from Premiership in 2014-15 season.
Promoted back to the Premiership in the 2015-16 season. Finished 16th 2016-17 season.
7th in the 2017-18 season,
He kept them up in the following seasons finishing 15th 10th and 17th and when he left Burnley in the 2021-22 season they were in 18th place.

To me he seems to be a manager who just survives around the bottom, whether it was lack of funding, and let's face it there will not be much at Everton with the ruling in effect. So I suppose the point is can he keep Everton up with the players we have, playing to his tactics, and that means the same what Thelwell wants down from the first team to youth.

He's taken Plymouth to the top of L1 and spent many years in our youth setup (not that an Everton connection is required). He hasn't been a manager for long, so maybe that's why he's not being considered.

Whoever does get the job, they'll need some luck…

As for those saying "He's crap" they are perhaps the same people who said Eddie Howe was crap when he was at Bournemouth and just look and listen to him now. He is right up there. Anyway, enough from me. Get Dyche asap.

He turned down Forest Green yesterday but has it accepted it today saying Everton are going in a different direction.

I had hoped Thelwell would convince them to go for Nuno or Corboran but it appears he who does not hire or fire managers nt there anyone with a pair of balls to stand up to Kenwright and Moshiri.

His role is fundamental to the way the club wants to play football and recruit the players to implement that plan and the Manager to coach the players to carry it out.

In short, he should have a major say in the decision.

However, having said that, in our particular case survival in the Premier League is paramount and if we do survive we may well be back to square one.

We are still a big club spectator wise and certs to get bigger if we can get a good side, we would fill the new stadium each game comfortable.
The hard part in the present Prem. is first getting a really competitive team together and then retaining the players.

Also, as commented on above, what is the point of our DoF when we are after 2 managers with massively different approaches? Does he have a plan or just along for the ride?

He managed to get a Bucket Shop Flight ! :-)

Burnley played much better after Dyche left and Kompany now has them flying without McNeil,Tarks and Mee.

I thought we should have tried hard for Tuchel and Pochetino and maybe we did but for me Corcoran or Nuno would be better suited for Where we are now.

According to big Dunc the decision has been made and it seems that he who doesnt sack managers or appoint them and does not get involved with bringing players in and doesnt talk to Jim White is going to have his way again.

If whoever is picking the next manager picks Bielsa of the two, I will throw in the towel.

In Spanish the territory was designated as Islas Malvinas (Falkland Islands). The nomenclature used by the United Nations for statistical processing purposes is Falkland Islands (Malvinas).

Take time to read what other coaches including Pep say about his coaching methods and tactics.

Moshiri is off his rocker.

“Kenwright for Falklands Governor“

Provided it's a live-in position!

“Mike Walker is still technically alive surely he'd be worse”?

Does that mean he's on a life support machine or something?

Moshiri: "Hi, Uncle Ali, We're going to go for Sean Dyche after a democratic boardroom vote."

Uncle Ali: "Farhad, Shut up! Appoint Bielsa."

We have a manager who got sacked because he was taking Burnley down.

The alternative is someone who sat on a stool but was taking Leeds down, but a lot of people think he's exciting.

There is no plan or strategy, we are just scraping the barrel for what is available.

Just get me 3 points, Everton. And 3 after that. I am really past caring who the manager is or could be.

So now we pursue him. Haven't we sung this song before?

So, who do you want?

Nothing against Davide, btw. He's considered to be a top, top coach in the Arteta mode.

At least he knows the club and most of the players and is well-respected as a top coach but I honestly can't see any way Moshiri would make that happen.

Marcelo Bielsa lands at Heathrow to step up talks with Everton over replacing Frank Lampard, despite concerns over squad, with Carlo Ancelotti's son Davide an alternative option

"One very famous football club said to me two or three days ago 'whenever we have a problem we say 'what would the Brentford or Brighton board do because they always get it right?'"

Ian – why do you refer to Carlo as the Italian Dinosaur, he's just won the Champions League (again).

Being out of work, wouldn't he have to leave based on work permit/immigration laws etc?

KENWRIGHT OUT.

Also, he might just drop the nut on Kenwright if Bill pisses him off – with any luck!

Leeds are no better off without him either, in fact, they are probably worse.

Yeh, do it!

Who do you want who might realistically be available? [Serious question.]

Meanwhile, every transfer option is being exhausted at this rate we'll end up with no-one, but of course the Gordon money will arrive safely in someone's bank account.

We are blessed.

Thought you were Al Murray for a minute.

They way things happen, Arsenal are due a fall. Who's to say rubbish Everton can't stick one up 'em? Unlikely, I know… but strange things do occur. Then there's them lot next game, least said the better.

And he's not going to take any shite – exactly what this board needs.

We actually don't have a terrible squad, so a good manager with a better record than Dyche might be the progress we need.

Our vacancy for manager has been available since Monday. Bigger name managers (Champions League experience) have had since then to state their interest. They haven't and I can't think why?

The next manager won't be staying long anyway if we follow our normal trend.

Can't help but think Van Gaal, Rangnick would be a better 6-month stop gap till the summer. Dyche is not a choice for the next 3 years, and I can't see Bielsa wanting a 3-year job at 68.

Given the strife we are in, we should go for the best firefighter there is. That is Allardyce. He left us 8th with a crap team. Long term, we should see who is available when safe.

Anyone that thinks Bielsa is more likely to save us from relegation than Allardyce is lying to themselves.

Either he'll take the gullible Moshiri to the cleaners while breaking the players in two with his smash-bang-wallop football, which so far hasn't worked in the Premier League.

Or the players, including the youngsters, will get it, love it, thrive on it and we'll be fun to watch.

My money would be firmly on the first extreme. This appointment would have star-struck, rich, gullible fool Moshiri written all over it.

Seriously dark days and whoever gets the job, Evertonians unite and maximise on supporting the team to stay up.

This is Hell and Back, Part 2, after last season and there's 17 games to play, and staying up is possible, with some late signings, who can score goals, and stay safe.

Houdini job, and to get some players in, will be some achievement.

Until the new manager arrives, then, there's little chance of getting any incoming new players.

UTFTs!

His son has seen it all and knows the club. Could play modern expansive football with a mind to the basics, which we have somehow forgotten.

It sounds like a really shit restaurant you would hammer on Trip Adviser.

Quite excited, but nothing positive ever seems to happen with Everton. We can all dream!!!

Dyche won't give a shit what we do so long as we are harder to beat and picking up points along the way.

I have no doubt that board members and Thelwell have raised their concerns but Moshiri hasn't listened...

Bielsa 10 years ago would have been great. Bielsa now is a pension top-up.

I would go with Dyche as I think we have a squad that could play to his strengths. We have no-nonsense defenders, midfielders that can run, and a couple of tall aggressive strikers.

Bielsa would want players with technical ability and speed all over the park. Both things we struggle with.

This is the same Allardyce who in his last job took West Brom down. He is not the miracle worker that you claim him to be and getting him in on a big contract (which he always gets as clubs are desperate) just gets us into more shit for next season and beyond when he walks away or we fire him. He was a one-trick pony who now is a busted flush.

Bielsa may take us down but he'd stick around to take us back up again and presents a much more positive future than Allardyceball ever would.

This is the same prick who claimed Tosun was the best pound-for-pound player in Europe at 㿅+ million.

You may want to re-read this article from a website not very far away: https://www.ToffeeWeb.com/club/managers/Allardyce.php

We were 13th when he took us over. We are now 19th and in more deep shit than last time. Allardyce doesn't keep us up, saddles us with more over priced old players with no resale value on huge contracts. But you are right, give it to good old Sam the firefighter.

Obviously I won't be holding my breath on either outcome.
Incidentally, Has anyone seen a copy of the Strategic Plan?

I don't believe we are going to suddenly start scoring unless we bring in a couple of attacking players, so the next few days are going to be massive for Everton. Unless we bring these players in, I believe we are finished this season, no matter who we eventually get to manage us.

People go on about managers and players who have been relegated and sometimes it won't be because of a lack of ability but it might be because they have been a victim of circumstance.

We don't just need a manager, we also need some attack-minded players.

Were his Leeds team genuinely quicker than any of our players or was it the way he made them play and drove them to be.

We have quick players; Calvert-Lewin, Gray, Iwobi, Godfrey, Onana, Patterson – I'd include Gordon too but he's gone based on what's going on with him. And we say that they aren't technical but these are players who are Premier League standard, a number of them play for their International teams – therefore are a cut above the average footballer. We just need someone to unlock this and add 2 more signings into the team with pace and we could be transformed!

We could also get relegated (more likely) but god he'd make them give it a go and we'd go out with a bang!

I started analyzing our squad, and think that a lot of them will actually be decent when forced to run? Maybe I'm just trying to be optimistic.

The full restructure of the footballing department and a need to improve how we identify talent and align recruitment to the needs of the football club?

That large, improved department scoured the world for weeks and returned the two names that everyone already knew. Two names that couldn't be less alike.

If all that organisation can do is come up with those names I question what they do. And whether we can expect any improvement in player recruitment. It's lazy in the extreme.

Firstly recent relegation record:

Sam Allardyce was a firefighter; however, the standard of manager and football has moved on and despite having ample time at West Brom and was backed he was shocking and they got relegated with a whimper.

Sean Dyche did a wonderful job at Burnley, truly excellent on his budget. However, in his last season they were cut adrift from safety and were certainties to go down. His successor transformed them but it wasn't enough.

Marcelo Bielsa had Leeds in 16th when he was sacked. They were never going down and the idea that Marsch saved them is ludicrous as they scraped home. Bielsa was sacked because they played a lot of the big teams and got spanked heavily. He basically had a Championship squad but lost Harrison and Bamford to injury who were fundamental to his team.

His successor is operating at the level of Bielsa's ''failure' despite being heavily backed. This standard was nowhere near the level Bielsa had them when all were fit. He is not a relegation manager because he doesn't put his teams there.

Secondly what we need from a manager now.

The team under Lampard was well organised, competed in every game but lacked two main things;

A) The desire to win games (when in front our defence became a problem, when behind we had no answers). We are serial losers

B) The ability to create chances, open up defences as well as scoring the few opportunities we did get

Dyche and Allardyce won't solve those problems. You could argue they could both be better at Lampard at A but not really B. Bielsa fits both criteria perfectly.

He is clearly the man for the job and in nearly every job (except Espanyol and Lille) he has come out of the blocks flying. Even those 'failed club' results would be enough to keep us in the Premier League.

Nothing against any of them personally, it's just that Dyche and Bielsa are poles apart in strategy and style. The other has never managed a club before, let alone a basket case, sinking ship giant like ours.

I am not opposed to a young progressive coach and would get behind whoever but really we should be thinking about a well-paid 6-month contract for Dyche with the offer of a longer term deal in the summer if he impresses.

This would give us an out; Dyche a springboard to another permanent job and we could actually appoint in the summer with an actual forward-thinking plan, the fella from West Brom for example. Sigh.

Shame we didn't have a plan when it was looking bad with Lampard to replace him with X, Y and Z and then make that decision. We're a shocking organisation. I've no faith in anything they decide.

It's left field I know, but I think he has a bit of Dyche and Bielsa, ie, he'll tighten up the defence and midfield and he'll be more attack-minded. Plus his dad can lend us some players.

He's not the sort of bloke who will fly in to compete against Dyche. You're either up for his approach or you're not.

Could be in for an interesting time. To be honest I'd settle for 'interesting' over 'tragic' right now.

Couldn't recall it myself so I checked and they were 18th, four points from safety with eight games to go including Southampton,Villa and Wolves at home.

I'm in favour of Dyche but Davide has a faint scent of old, proper Everton about him.

We have had a few bad goals scored against us the last number of weeks but a team that can hold Man city to 1 goal must have a decent defense if organized correctly. Goal scoring is our problem.

Davide Ancelotti could be interesting. He'll have one the greatest managers of all time on speed dial, with vested interest in seeing his son succeed. The loan signings could be unbelievable.

Bielsa guarantees intensity and speed. Two things this club has lacked for years. We should have got this guy when Moyes left. Better late than never.

It is beginning to feel like an episode of some second-rate soap-opera.
I think we'll all be relieved - if that's the right term - when the club has finally decided which manager to hire and what the squad looks like next Wednesday morning as then we can concentrate on the actual games.

I think that question will apply to whoever takes over the role Bill, whether he is given a Transfer Budget, and more importantly enough time to get reinforcements through the door. Also depends on who is going to be sold which presumably will generate funds. The way our 'Board' is dithering again time is quickly running down.

The players score goals and our entire squad is devoid of them. Coleman is probably 2nd top goal scorer behind DCL.

We need to try and bring in at least 1 striker before the window shuts, God knows who that would be if we don't have a manager.

Oh yeah i almost forgot, it wasnt goals scored that wax the killer it was giving up goals and losing all 3 points from a winning position. I think Dyche dont do that.

I've often heard the phrase, that Moyes's Everton, punched above their weight, but looking at the circumstances, then I think the phrase is a lot more applicable to Dyche's, Burnley.

I'm not sure who will get the job, but whoever it is, I just hope the days of living on easy street, disappears from the corridors of finch farm.

People on Twitter keep mentioning Dyche's win/loss record as a negative. But every year his team were favorites for relegation and almost every year they avoided relegation. definitely had them punching above their weight and that's in the EPL. Getting was a huge achievement in the first place.

However, Arteta himself has had a very mixed time of it at Arsenal and must have come very close to the sack a few times. He's undoubtedly very talented but what has saved him is patience and a lot of financial backing. They now see the rewards.

Our new manager will have no time and no money to make a difference.

If we have no money for reinforcements, do you think Davide Ancelotti is our best chance of staying up?

If we go down, firesale the squad and still have no money - do you think Davide Ancelotti is our best chance of promotion?

It's a very bold choice to install a complete novice given our situation.

He's come up the hard way, he's had to scrap and be pragmatic, to help keep Burnley in the mega rich EPL, and although I'm not sure, it would surprise me if Burnley never had the lowest wage bill in the league, except maybe for one or two teams, over the 5/6 years period that Dyche, had them punching massively above their weight?

His points record on paper, isn't impressive Kieran, but his record in keeping Burnley in the big league, was very, very impressive, and I don't believe his team would have lasted even a year, if they hadn't been so pragmatic whilst playing to their strengths.

Dyche's biggest problem is when people recognize him, or put him in a bracket, he appears to be like Allardyce or Moyes. They might be right, but they might also be wrong.

Bielsa seems like a crazy choice, but if he lasted at Everton, then who knows what this fella could achieve? Will he get past the first eight weeks though?

Had we been mid table. Safe but underachieving, I'd say go for it. But something in me tells me Dyche is a more sensible choice in the here and now. He probably won't be able to save us either but at least he's not walking into an entirely new situation.

New managers usually get a bounce if they're any good - look at Emery at Villa, Lopetegui at Wolves... same players, just a different, more positive mindset instilled...

“Thanks to everybody that played their part as the whole club came together. I will never forget the incredible night against Palace that we shared.

“I want to thank all Evertonians for the welcome that you gave to myself, my staff, and my family. It truly is a special club with a huge heart, and an incredible history.

“I'm disappointed that we couldn't achieve more together and wish all the players and everyone at Everton FC the very best for the future.”

He may not have been (or been allowed to be) good enough but for 'getting us' and for trying to help this dysfunctional apology for a football club...Thank You, Frank.

As he hasn't had a job for 10mths Dyche seems keen enough to do it it on a short term basis.

Bielsa; I was all for him pre-Ancelotti, but that was then.
I also get His reluctance, which might be age or, Everton? - sod that for a game of soldiers or even the stated reason of, 'I need something to actually work with and a full pre-season.'

There is a large school of though that thinks, some in hind sight I know, that Lampard should've gone after Bournemouth and that 6 week break could've been a mini pre season.
Then again maybe not, as we'd signed up for the Australia trip.

Anyway, Bielsa? He's supposed to be wedded to his principles and his basic requirements, like a pre-season, some fast players...Which we can't meet.

So why take the trouble to fly (1st class on our dime, well you would if somebodys daft enough to payment) from Brazil

Two thoughts pop in my cynical head. First; There maybe 12 million or more reasons and Second; he could also be our managerial Trevor Birch, come in, see the true picture and bail after 6 weeks or what ever.

Oh and another thought- I see Moshiri as Arl Jim from The Vicar of Dibley; Bielsa, Bielsa, Bielsa, Bielsa, Bielsa, Bielsa, Bielsa - Dyche.

Not even Moshiri would pick Davide Ancelotti - would he?

If he's asking for £12m, I suspect he can smell our fear. Would Mexico have offered him a quarter a tenth of that? Another reason to miss.

Dyche is far from ideal but beggars can't be choosers

Thanks Frank. We know it wasn't all you. Your paymasters played their part in our failure too. Wish it had worked out different but, hey, we'll always have Palace.

Dyche knows what to do with a stuggling squad he's been dealing with one for years. There's no time to lose and its a big ask to get us to stay in the Prem. for anyone, but I think he's our best chance.

Antonio at West Ham is talking about leaving but I doubt they would let him join us.

This is absolutely last chance saloon time.

If he comes in now he's not going to affect either. His teams need to work as a machine, not half of one. It would be a mistake, our squad couldn't cope with it and we'd have some kind of dysfunctional bastard hybrid of Bielsa's game.

Dyche is getting no one excited. But I am afraid excitement is off the menu. It's back to basics, hard graft, simple formations, grinding out 1-0 wins from a set piece they've been working on. That's how we will stay up and Dyche can deliver it.

Whoever they pick, make a decision!, get the man in so he can start work and sign or loan a few players. Dithering and delaying is making things harder for the incoming man, aren't things difficult enough as it is ?

David Ancelloti - this is not a job to be cutting your managerial teeth on.
Sean Dyche - if we have to.
Marcelo Bielsa - nervous excitement.

I haven't felt that way about Everton for a long time.

To be honest I will apologise. Only yesterday I typed I would rather watch a Bielsa team get relegated trying to play and win football matches rather than have Sam or Dyche as manager.

So my plan would be flog Pickford for a few pacey backs from St Helens, Wakefield or Widnes etc?

Now that would be entertaining and would certainly improve our tackling.

Clueless bar stools.

I'd also expect that we would need 6 points from our last 2 games, as at least 2 of the 3 sides that will be involved will almost definitely be in the Championship next year – ourselves, Wolves and Bournemouth.

So, with all this said, we may just need to get a manager in who will change the squad for the better, reducing the age of the squad, getting more from them than we have had over the past decade or whatever, and producing a team we can be proud of, because we haven't had one to be proud of in a long time.

I wasn't a fan of bringing in Bielsa but, if we wEREs to admit defeat, he would probably be the best man to change our ways as, IMO, we own a squad of clowns who have no desire to be greats of the game, and just a desire to be rich men.

£2M plus £10M for 'saving us'. Not £6M and upwards only to pay them off in less than 12 months when we go through this all again. Let then prove themselves.

The over the top, upfront money on stupid, risky appointments needs to stop until a manager proves themselves by winning silverware / finish top 4.

The same for players, they can sit on a Spurs / Newcastle bench if they want, it's their right to go for the money. Players like that we don't need, certainly not in our current mess.

Anyway, Nuno for me would be a more sensible manager for both long or short term. To keep us up and to bring us up.

Massimo Carrera is my outsider. Currently unemployed, Italian organisation and as sensible as the board choice, I like his name, vroom, vroom!

He's got a lot of mitigation that he was managing Burnley with little money and while I prefer Bielsa, under the circumstances we find ourselves, I'd give Dyche the interim job til the end of the season and then give Bielsa the job, so he can get a full pre-season behind him.

I don't think either of them will keep us up, but I think Dyche has more chance. Personally, I'd go for Bielsa's pupil, Carlos Corberan over both of them

The win rate has to be seen in context. No one thought Burnley would get in the EPL. They did then unsurprisingly like Blackpool then when down again but then bounced back and stayed up for years. Every year they were relegation favorites so relative to expectations 30 percent win rate is pretty amazing. Also Dyche was at Watford with Rodgers, Warburton etc. I'm sure if he had the right players he would play better football

Sadly,Everton have not the set up or players for Bielsa,.I do think it has to be Dyce to have any chance of surviving in the Premier League.In the end Everton will get the Manager they deserve, who hopefully will play simple boring football.

Dyce is good at motivation and disciple and may get enough results for survival.Bielsa will be true to his principles, but there is took much of a lack of principles with Everton to start with.

I am concerned of Bielsa talking to the Board via a interpretor, he may be misunderstood and appointed.The Board are a complete farce and the requisition forms may have the wrong information on them for the final decision makers Kenwright and Moshiri.On second thoughts it would make no difference. God help us.

Utter shambles!

People can criticise Moyes but he was so thorough at researching the character of the player, he'd go watch them live several times and watch their body language etc for 90 minutes. I don't understand why we haven't got people who do the same.

If we do go down in the process so be it but we will be better off long term.

We only ever seem to think 6 months ahead and that's all Dyche is.

My question to them would be why has he been out of work so long? (Like Frank was). Wolves, Aston Villa, Southhampton, and Bournemouth have had a change of manager in that period. He wouldn't be my pick.

Jerome # 305 - I think Davies, Patterson, Godfrey, Holgate, Branthwaite, Mykolenko, Iwobi, DCL, Gueye, and Onana and maybe even Tarkowski would adapt to Bielsa's system.

Also 5 subs would suit Bielsa down to the ground.

Presumably just a free flight to catch up with some old friends in Yorkshire.

He speaks perfectly good English, he just chooses to use an interpreter for the media.

Dyche feels like he is only a short-term solution to me, it's frustrating these 2 are the frontrunners, both with 2 completely different styles of play. The board clearly doesn't know it's own identity and the way they want the team to play.

I think Bielsa will make us fall in love with football again, regardless of the results. If he's able to to keep us up, and we gave him time, he's the better longer-term option.

Harrods Hampers Our Dream.

I got sent a link showing a great picture and quote of Arteta and Tim Cahill together. I was worried for Mikel when he took the plunge, but fair credit, he's doing well.

It made me think. Although I've long advocated against jobs for the boys, in reality, I don't care as long as they are the right people for the job.

A management team of Cahill, Osman and Pienaar.

Friday morning unrealistic thoughts with my brain in Everton overdrive.

The reality is we are getting a more refined version of Allardyce or a volatile Argentinian. I think the latter might be the better option as he will certainly set off a few fireworks inside Goodison and maybe get a reaction.

I think we all need new seat belts. This is going to be a rough ride, but I'm in.

Here we go.

Again.

As Colin stated on another thread, there must be a reason why he's not been approached since he was sacked.

We are going down, I'd rather go down having fun then watching a poor mans Sam Allardyce. And I don't want to watch the original Sam Allardyce

This is another example of the decision makers choosing the wrong guy, just like it's proven they made the wrong choice with Lampard over Periera (did well in Brazil since and just got the biggest job in Brazil as a result). Periera's combustible characteristics would have been perfect for this squad of mentally weak players. Same as Biesla's ferociousness and meticulous eye for detail is much more suited to the ills of this Everton squad than Dyche and his hoof-ball.

The mind boggles sometimes

I think the latter is far more likely. There is a reason that he has NEVER taken over a club mid season. Not sure why he would suddenly break that rule now, for our shitshow. It may be that he was asking for an astronomical wage to break his habit? I don't know and i'd wager you don't know either.

For the first time in a long while I think the board have made the more sensible decision. Dyche has a good record with getting poor players to grind out points, he also has an excellent record in the championship where he was promoted in both his seasons there. He's not the manager that many (any of us!) dreamed of but he's a better fit for our current situation than Bielsa.

We don't even know yet how long Dyche's contract is. Might be that the plan is to have him for 6 months and then get Bielsa in the summer.

The dsyfunction continues, because the owner wants to appoint a 'star' to impress his possible new investors, whilst, the board knows they need a relative safe pair of hands to address the real possibility of relegation. If this has been the way we have operated in the transfer market, and there's very little to suggest that we haven't, it's no wonder we could be on the verge of following Sunderland et al - as Peter Cook might have said "What a way to run a [expletive]football club!"

Whomever it is that comes in and seems to be Dyche, welcome to the crazy world of Everton Football Club, too much dull footy, but never a dull day.

If it is Sean Dyche, I'll wish him well. I think he'd get us much more organised and use what players we have in a more organised way. Would he get us promoted if we go down. Who can tell, it's a hard division. But if we can't have Bielsa, then Sean is a decent next best.

I hate that people say Bielsa wants a team of runners. That's wrong. So, so wrong. People don't understand Bielsa. He did not bounce Riquelme out of the argentina side because he was slow, he bounced him out because he put his foot on the ball and slowed the game down. It's the speed of the ball that concerns Bielsa, not the speed of the players. Just look at how Gary Medel (the flop at Cardiff) played such a massive part for Bielsa at Chile. Being slow is not a problem if you stay in motion and can keep the ball moving.

Back on the merry go round. Expletives *!?!!.

Not many bookies offering prices on Dyche now.

Oh well, lets get behind him!

On the other hand, I don't think the job will be offered to Bielsa if we stay up. His recruitment would entail an entire overhaul of the squad which would mean an awful lot of work, planning and imagination from this board of useless, talking heads.

P.S. Bielsa, I believe, has a home in Yorkshire so it's not too strange for him to be in the country.

Unless we get rid of Kenwright & Co nothing will change.

Either way, I'm not convinced that this squad could have easily or quickly pivoted to Bielsa's system. It might have been exciting to see them try but I think there's more chance they would have struggled at least initially and under massive relegation pressure things might have soured quickly. A part of me is disappointed that we didn't take the gamble but I don't think the odds were appealing.

Shame about Biesla But as Stev F said the other day, he's not the manager he was and we missed the boat a few years ago.

Let's get a couple of players in and stay up COYB

I now hope for our Club's sake the selfish players do what they are overpaid to do and give what any fan wouldn't need asking twice to do and give it everything from effort and drag their skills that made them footballers in the first place to the surface and get us out the mess we find ourselves in on the pitch.

But the most important factor is their lack of heart and fight. No more mollycoddling this bunch of faeries. A good kick up the arse is what they need and a fucking dress code!!! This isn't Milan or Paris, it's fucking Liverpool so get in line or get out. They are the slowest, most unfit bunch of tossers in the Premier League. They embarrass us and they embarrass themselves.

Dyche needs a miracle, let's give him one.

For all we know, both Dyche and Bielsa were on a shortlist and after interviewing both candidates, the board have collectively decided to go with Dyche. And whether that's for footballing or financial reasons – or whether Bielsa just didn't want the gig, we might never know.

fair enough but passing and moving is a very basic football move and it's been missing for a long time at Goodison. I think Dyche has heard of it, having learned from being with BrIan Clough for a few years, and will apply it very quickly.

If Sean Dyche comes through the door today I wish him well, he has an enormous task ahead of him but he is no soft touch and he might just be up to the task of turning things around in the immediate future.

He deserves all our support if he takes on the role!

Like I said earlier, Bielsa has never started coaching a first team mid season. Timing was wrong.

Re-Dyche, lets see if we can look beyond the stereotype. Many people (including myself) said that Howe would not be the best choice as his team conceded way too many goals and now he's managing the team with the tightest defense in the league.

People can criticise Moyes but he was so thorough at researching the character of the player, he'd go watch them live several times and watch their body language etc for 90 minutes. I don't understand why we haven't got people who do the same.

Regards to Dyche, it makes perfect sense to put him in place given the likely fact we are going down. The last thing we need is some unproven manager making further scattergun purchases of players who aren't suited to the Championship.

I wonder how many of the 46 games Calvert-Lewin will be fit for next season?

Would be amazing if it wasn't impossible.

Moshiri not going for a 'twofer' is he? Dyche for 6 months on a ٠M basic plus 㾶M if he pulls it off and Bielsa getting up to speed to take over in June... in which ever League we're in.

Somebody's been thinking ahead??... Nah, too far-fetched that!

Pass and move. Let the ball do the work.

Basics of football we are all taught at 10 years old. Not stand still and admire the pass or run around like an idiot! You don't have to be quick, you just need to have a quick brain, ability to make decisions and anticipate the game.

Wise words, Dave Abrahams.

The players we have now seem to not have trust in their ability. Making things easier for the man receiving the ball seems to be a after thought. When players lose confidence in basics, you're left with direct hoofball as a option but I'm not sure the players we have are fit enough to play this way.

The fact Gordon is are most saleable asset on the playing side says a lot about how far we have gone backwards.

He could slow the game down and play it at his pace. He dictated it. Although being played on the left for a large part of his career, he was very effective in what we would now call a Number 10 position.

Beardsley was too clever for the Everton team he played in. We didn't complain at some of the passes he made, more at the players who couldn't read the game to get on the end of them.

I expect Bielsa's plan might have been feasible some years ago - instead of Koeman or Silva. Every appointment since then has been an emergency - either mid-season relegation fears or very serious financial situation.

Whilst I would very much like to see all manner of the club modernised, I don't think now is the right time to do it. And let's be honest Bielsa is not the same man he was 5 years ago.

Hopefully Dyche does a similar job to that of Joe Royle or David Moyes – which would provide us with much better foundations for someone to come in and take us to the next level. Much like Kompany is doing at Burnley and Martinez did at Everton (briefly).

Bielsa is not a shortcut to success. There are no shortcuts. That's the lesson of the Moshiri era.

Still, on we go with same set-up. Good luck with it, to the new manager.

● The U21s and U18s to be revamped to match the first-team set-up;

● Change the transfer policy to only purchase young, progressive players;

● Change the culture of the club.

No, definitely not what this club needs. We don't need someone with vast football knowledge to interfere with the best-run club, who provide really good times with our current model.

All them physios out of work? Can't have that!

Stop buying average players for 㿀+M to then release them for nothing? Definitely not!!

Get a grip, Bielsa! As Kenwright knows! Having an actual plan and clear identity takes all the fun out of being an Evertonian! Did I say 'fun'? I meant 'power'!

You are right, of course. Everton have been painted into a corner. Relegation and financial disaster limiting the options.

Maybe I am paranoid but I think this situation suits Kenwright & Co, as does Dyche, because it is a similar type appointment to what they would want to maintain the status quo. Lampard also was an appointment that suited, until relegation was threatened.

I even can take my paranoia further in that Kenwright & Co will try to hold Moshiri's new investor's feet to the fire of relegation, fearing changes in the status quo.