Everton vs Brentford

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Dominic Calvert-Lewin has resumed full training but is unlikely to start against Brentford

Everton are back at Goodison Park following back-to-back away fixtures that, unfortunately, only yielded a point as they face in-form Brentford in what is another must-win game.

The Blues are still in the bottom three having lost at Arsenal and dropped two vital points against Nottingham Forest last Sunday but they can help their cause in a big way with victory over the Bees in front of their own fans this weekend.

Everton scored twice in a game for the first time since October at the City Ground but scoring enough goals, particularly from open play, remains a challenge which is why the prospect, however slim, that Dominic Calvert-Lewin might be involved will come as a boost to Sean Dyche's side.

The striker rejoined full first-team training today as he continues his recovery from a hamstring problem that has sidelined him for the past five matches and will be assessed to see if he can play a part against Brentford.

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It would seem unlikey based on Sean Dyche'c comments in his press conference at Finch Farm today that the striker will be ready to start what is a crucial fixture but he could be involved off the bench.

"Dom is in and around it again, with us training," the manager said. "We are still making a decision on him being truly right to come back in. 

"It's early yet, he's just got on the grass with us, but he's done a lot of rehab – the stats and facts – and the way he's feeling is good. It's positive signs – that's for sure."

Dyche has chopped and changed his options up front since taking charge, with all three of Ellis Simms, Neal Maupay and Demarai Gray having started since Calvert-Lewin's sole appearance under the new boss but Gray, having added to his tally as top scorer for the season against Forest, albeit from the penalty spot, could get the nod again.

Nathan Patterson is also close to a return but an unlikely starter while Andros Townsend remains a ways away from action after suffering some setbacks in his return from a ruptured ACL last year. 

Vitalii Mykolenko, who missed the 2-2 draw at Nottingham Forest last Sunday through illness, is available again and is expected to line up in an otherwise unchanged back four.

Brentford's only defeat since the break for the World Cup was in the FA Cup Third Round against West Ham in January, a nine-game sequence in the Premier League that has them sitting in ninth place, just three points off sixth and very much in the hunt for Europe this season.

In addition to the excellent work done by Thomas Frank, the Bees' success has been aided by good fortune with injuries, although they stand to lose Ivan Toney to a lengthy ban at some point — although, sadly, his FA hearing regarding his confession to illegal betting won't be held before this weekend meaning Brentford's chief danger man will be available for them.

Only Keane Lewis-Potter (knee) and Thomas Strakosha (ankle) are ruled out for Brentford whose last three away games saw them beat West Ham and draw at both Leeds and leaders Arsenal.

Having lost at home to Aston Villa last time out, the visit of a side that hasn't lost since November would appear daunting to Everton but Dyche has overseen progress on the attacking front in recent weeks and he will, no doubt, be impressing on his players the need to replicate the performance that toppled the Gunners in his first match since succeeding Frank Lampard.

Kick-off: 3pm, Saturday, 11 March 2023
Referee: Simon Hooper
VAR: David Coote
Last Time: Everton 2 -3 Brentford

Predicted Line-up: Pickford, Coleman, Keane, Tarkowski, Mykolenko, Gueye, Onana, Iwobi, Doucouré, McNeil, Gray


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Eddie Dunn
1 Posted 09/03/2023 at 14:58:18
Just watched the Dyche presser. When asked how Calvert-Lewin was, he said: "We have talked and he seemed okay, we talked about fashion and he pointed me in the right direction."

Sean didn't smile (the humour seemed lost on the Journos) but he said it in a very dry, humourless manner, which I read as complete apathy.

Dyche is clearly unimpressed.

Iakovos Iasonidis
2 Posted 09/03/2023 at 14:59:48
Doesn't mean a thing. We must plan our survival without him. Even when he returns, it will take time for him to be 100%.

He is not the messiah some people think, he won't return and score 10 goals till the end of the season. He is not Jelavic!!

Just make sure he leaves this injury behind him for good.

Bill Gall
3 Posted 09/03/2023 at 15:26:27
It's really difficult to really know what Calvert-Lewin's fitness is as, for the last few games, it is "We will check on his fitness before the game day and take it from there, but he is close." – yet he does not even make the bench.

He is beginning to sound like an extinct species, a lesser-spotted striker.

Paul Kossoff
4 Posted 09/03/2023 at 15:42:35
Have you seen women trying to walk in those stilettos? It's hard enough for them let alone a 6ft-4in man, no wonder his hamstring went. Add that to a pencil skirt then I couldn't even see him getting on or off the team bus. If, as we are thinking, he will save us as last season then we are gone already.

Maybe if he concentrates on his football career instead of mincing about in dresses and handbags then we may have a chance. Transports Simon Jordan criticized him for being more like the talentless Sam Smith, and would want his centre forward playing on the field instead of poncing about in skirts?

I have to agree with him. Won't be long before we have to refer to him as them or they, this is Everton after all.

Jack Convery
5 Posted 09/03/2023 at 16:02:09
The look on Dyche's face when he made the Calvert-Lewin fashion jibe, in an ever so dry voice, was really telling.

A really hard game tomorrow. Our most difficult home game since Brighton. Let's hope it's a different result. We need those 3 points. COYBs.

Barry Hesketh
6 Posted 09/03/2023 at 16:47:46
Jack @5,

We play Saturday not Friday, admittedly the timings of the press conferences do tend to confuse us all.

As for Dominic, I hope if and when he comes back into the first team, he's fully fit and raring to go. Some might not like it, but he's a key player in our battle for survival.

Andy Meighan
7 Posted 09/03/2023 at 16:49:28
Funny how he was touch-and-go for the derby, but has missed 4 games since.

Someone isn't telling the truth. And to be fair here, he's hardly a goal machine anyway, is he?

Michael Lynch
8 Posted 09/03/2023 at 17:07:30
He'll be ready when he's ready, which looks like not this weekend.

I wouldn't read too much into Dyche's joke about fashion. I think he's taking the piss out of the journalist's dull questions rather than out of Calvert-Lewin.

He seems to do it a lot in press conferences. I must admit, I find it grates a bit, but I don't really blame him – the questions are so fucking dull and predictable every week.

Brian Hennessy
9 Posted 09/03/2023 at 17:23:56
Glad to see he is back on the grass. If we can't get 6 or 7 games out of him between now and the end of the season, he might be put out to grass next season.
Christy Ring
10 Posted 09/03/2023 at 17:25:49
I wouldn't read a thing into his comment about fashion, as Michael said, they're asking the same ridiculous questions about Calvert-Lewin.

Hope he makes the bench, no matter how much he's criticised; we're a lot more attacking threat with Dom upfront.

I don't listen to the supposedly expert Simon Jordan, a bitter and failed club owner, a bit like our Bill.

Dennis Stevens
11 Posted 09/03/2023 at 17:31:20
Hear! Hear! Christy. It struck me as a carefully considered response, having been set up to slag Calvert-Lewin off for his off-field activities.

Dyche doesn't seem the type to bad-mouth his players to the press, but I'd imagine he's quite straight talking to them one on one.

Ben King
12 Posted 09/03/2023 at 17:44:40
Good Lord, Paul #4,

How boring. How utterly boring. Such a trite set of comments. I imagine you'll be making them 20 years from now along with ‘snow joke' and other boring well versed sayings.

So I'll trot out the same boring defence: whilst injured, rather than do drugs, stay out in the pubs or clubs or beat up women, Calvert-Lewin decided to do a fashion shoot. So bloody what? Such a shame ‘supporters' like you find it so offensive.

I'd rather have him than Bernard Mendy, Mason Greenwood or even Sigurdsson. But you know… Slag off our best players, matey.

Richard Lyons
13 Posted 09/03/2023 at 17:53:24
My initial reaction was "so what?"

However, although he's not really that good, he is surely better than Maupay and more experienced than Simms (in whom Dyche has no confidence anyway), so I suppose it's good news.

It's still not going to stop us getting relegated though...

Mark Taylor
14 Posted 09/03/2023 at 18:01:38
For whatever reason, DCL is very slow to get back to fitness after long periods out. Can't see him starting for several more weeks and given the past two years, can't see him staying fit for long. Something seems to be seriously wrong with him, either in the head or body or both.

If he does get anywhere near the team, let's not cast him as saviour, that is an unreasonable expectation. At his best, he is better than anything we currently have ( and that's a very low bar) but he hasn't been at that level for a very long time and he also needs yet more time on the pitch to be match sharp. To the extent he makes an impact this season, I think it will be a modest one, unfortunately.

Robert Tressell
15 Posted 09/03/2023 at 18:25:42
Ben #12,

Some people like their footballers to have more manly pastimes like alcohol, gambling and drug addiction, pigeons, sexual violence, domestic violence and just general violence.

Such footballers never get injured, after all. They're too hard and demonstrably have their heads in the right place.

Andy Crooks
16 Posted 09/03/2023 at 18:26:29
Well said, Ben King.

It's a bit creepy how angry Calvert-Lewin makes some people in matters unrelated to football and how utterly devoid of wit their minging patter is.

Tony Abrahams
17 Posted 09/03/2023 at 18:27:28
What Michael, Christy and Dennis have said.

The questions are monotonous, just like Dominic's injury, but trying to read in between the lines, I'm hoping that he's been doing a lot of running and is going to come back stronger than he's been for a very long time.

It's all very monotonous, I say the same thing every week and have tried to stay patient because of how valuable I think Calvert-Lewin is going to be if we are to beat the dreaded drop.

Good point, Mark@14, but my own view is that Calvert-Lewin won't have to be brilliant to really help our team. Just having someone up front who can be a target, a wall, and a focus point, should give our players a lot more confidence.

Bill Gienapp
18 Posted 09/03/2023 at 18:52:54
Sounds like Townsend is unlikely to contribute much this season. Not surprising, given the nature of his injury, but too bad as he definitely has at least a few goals in his locker.
Paul Kossoff
19 Posted 09/03/2023 at 19:01:14
Ben 12, chill out. We all need light relief as Everton supporters and that's what I wrote.

Any man who takes payment for allowing himself to dress as a schoolgirl in a men's magazine should expect flak. But I do find what Calvert-Lewin got up to in the mag – perv's mag more like – utterly embarrassing and yes, perverse. If you haven't seen the pics then look them up and see then if you think he's a good fit for the club.

He was a cheap option to Lukaku who we never replaced. I've never rated Calvert-Lewin and lots of others don't. Fantastic if he plays and keeps us up and he will gain hero status. But he's not the answer and never will be.

Neil Copeland
20 Posted 09/03/2023 at 19:02:37
We always look better balanced when Calvert-Lewin plays, the team looks better for it. So it's not necessarily his goal return that matters but his influence on the whole team.

If doing a fashion shoot makes him feel better and improves his mental state as a result, then surely that can only be of benefit? Personally, I don't give a shit what he does in his own time. As long as he gives his best when he plays.

Paul Kossoff
21 Posted 09/03/2023 at 19:06:12
Andy 26, Minging patter?

I was fucking raging when I saw what Calvert-Lewin got up to. The club is a laughing stock as it is. You chill out, take a powder.

Duncan McDine
22 Posted 09/03/2023 at 19:08:32
Paul Kossoff – does this mean that you won't be coming to the big ToffeeWeb meet-up at Eurovision this year?

It's the closest we'll get to see any European competition for some time.

Barry Rathbone
23 Posted 09/03/2023 at 19:11:51
He is just the last straw to clutch at.

A physical presence who might occupy defenders better than other options and maybe score the odd goal is what it's come to and probably the biggest reason we are where we are.

Mal van Schaick
24 Posted 09/03/2023 at 19:23:05
If we can get 60 minutes out of him on Saturday, it would make a big difference to what we have had whilst he's not been playing, with Maupay doing his best but not making a great impact.

At his best, Calvert-Lewin could be the difference in claiming 3 points on Saturday. I hope he's fit enough to play and I hope that we claim all 3 points.

Mark Ryan
25 Posted 09/03/2023 at 19:23:47
Dyche was basically saying "Ask me a better question, you thick twat."

The questions are so banal, so obvious, so fucking expected.
I think Sean's response was spot-on.

Tony Abrahams
26 Posted 09/03/2023 at 19:25:13
The biggest reason why we are where we are is that we have got no other really decent centre-forward to replace him while he's become so frequently injured.

Gross negligence and not having a real plan does seem to be the biggest reason why we have become a shambles but it hopefully looks like Dyche has started to get the players who have “been assembled by several different managers and directors of football” a lot fitter and playing with a lot more discipline.

Dale Self
28 Posted 09/03/2023 at 19:38:23
Okay, I've given the lad a bit of it because he didn't get his leadership responsibility that applies while you are injured or generally underperforming. I'm over that if he can get right with Dyche and put in some decent shifts like v Arsenal.

And thanks, Mark, for the other more plausible sounding explanation of the presser remarks. I can trust Dyche will handle this with proper career-focused concern.

Kevin Prytherch
29 Posted 09/03/2023 at 19:38:34
Hate to break it to you, Paul, but the “skirt” photo was actually “flared suit shorts”.

Does that make it better?

Dale Self
30 Posted 09/03/2023 at 19:42:45
Stop it – you're kilting me.
Joe McMahon
31 Posted 09/03/2023 at 19:50:07
I've just seen this thread now. Kevin, I thought it was a designer gym skirt with a handbag.
Brian Williams
32 Posted 09/03/2023 at 19:50:33
I despair of some Evertonians who feel the need to lash out at their own in order to deal with their feelings with regard to our situation.

Calvert-Lewin is not the reason we're where we are, it's not the lad's fault. It's not his fault, either, that he has been so fucking unlucky with injuries.

He's got what us dinosaurs would call a weird (and more) sense of fashion. So fucking what? He's 25, a footballing celebrity, a millionaire, and chooses to express himself as he wants. Good luck to the lad, the lad who scored the goal that probably kept us up last season.

If he wants to wear flared shorts (not a skirt) rather than drink and drive, get caught in compromising situations, or break the law, then good on him.

"The Bitters" – that's what the Red Shite call us. Reading some of the posts on here, they play right into their hands. Leave the lad alone and get a life, for fuck's sake.

Barry Williams
33 Posted 09/03/2023 at 19:56:25
Initially, he'll provide a much better option off the bench than Everton have had all season – and that is a good thing.
Mick O'Malley
34 Posted 09/03/2023 at 20:21:02
I wish I had a £1 for every time I've seen that headline.

Let's hope he's fit enough to start making a difference, he might not be the best finisher but we definitely miss his aerial ability and his physical presence and we are screaming out for someone to get on the end of the crosses we've been putting in the box since Dyche came. The lad is due a bit of luck with the injuries.

Don Alexander
35 Posted 09/03/2023 at 20:23:49
I've pulled worse........ ask the missus.
Sam Hoare
36 Posted 09/03/2023 at 20:27:29
Not really sure what he decides to do in his spare time is relevant so long as it's legal and doesn't affect his ability to play football.

He's been incredibly unlucky with injuries and apparently played through injury (when he shouldn't have) last season to help keep us up. Hopefully Dyche will manage him better than Lampard.

I imagine he'll be making sub appearances for at least a few matches before he can start but a big improvement from bringing Gray or Simms off the bench.

(Incidentally, I feel sorry for Simms who really would have been better served by continuing his learning at Sunderland.)

Mark Ryan
37 Posted 09/03/2023 at 20:30:58
My comment "Ask me a better question, you thick twat."
That was what I perceived Sean Dyche wanted to say to the reporter.

That was not me having a pop at any ToffeeWebber, ha ha,
I have just re-read my post and it sounds like I'm having a pop at someone else's post. That was not my intention. Apologies if it read like that.

It's what I felt Dyche wanted to say when he said "Yeah, me and Dom chatted fashion." I think he wanted to say "Just fuck off, you gormless twat!"

Ray Roche
38 Posted 09/03/2023 at 20:35:23

Good post Brian. Maybe some of the Neanderthals on here can get someone to read it to them.😁

Danny O’Neill
39 Posted 09/03/2023 at 20:41:35
I don't care what he wears when he's off the football pitch. His choice.

I apparently look like a throw back to the 1990s as I haven't changed my clothes or hair style since then according to family. If I ever had any style that is.

What matters is what he does when he crosses that white line in a Royal Blue shirt. And I hope he does that soon.

He isn't the best but he is very good. He has his limitations. He's an in the box striker who needs delivery. In recent matches I've seen, he would have given us goals on the end of McNeil's very good delivery in my opinion.

He won't save us from relegation single handedly. But he can be part of a team that pulls us up the league table and contribute to doing that. I for one am not contemplating relegation anyway.

He is an Everton player and he gets the support of me when he's on that pitch. and will get us goals. Get fit Dominic and get back. Give me a diving headed goal that almost made cry and fall to my knees in May had the kind Crystal Palace supporters not embraced me and kept me on my feet!!

Mark Murphy
40 Posted 09/03/2023 at 20:52:12
1990s Albania, Danny??


Kiern Moran
41 Posted 09/03/2023 at 20:54:33
Thank fuck!

We are an infinitely better side with him in.

Danny O’Neill
42 Posted 09/03/2023 at 20:54:43
Sorry, can't leave this one.

I know there were other issues and it was a different era.

But for those who watched him, did the fashion-conscious George Best's off field dress at the time impact their view of him as a footballer?

I'll judge them on the pitch, not how they dress off it. That is irrelevant.

Brentford in less than 48 hours. I hope Dominic features.

Dave Brierley
43 Posted 09/03/2023 at 21:00:14
Paul Kossovv

"Maybe if he concentrates on his football career instead of mincing about in dresses and handbags then we may have a chance. Transports Simon Jordan criticized him for being more like the talentless Sam Smith, and would want his centre forward playing on the field instead of poncing about in skirts? I have to agree with him. Won't be long before we have to refer to him as them or they, this is Everton after all."

Paul – you're everything I despise in a ToffeeWeb correspondent, Judgemental, ill-informed, and just plain nasty.

Dave Brierley
44 Posted 09/03/2023 at 21:05:43
Don 35:

Blow up doll, Don?

Brendan McLaughlin
45 Posted 09/03/2023 at 21:13:50
"Simon Jordan criticized him for being more like the talentless Sam Smith, and would want his centre forward playing on the field instead of poncing about in skirts? "

Surely a broadcaster from Transport should be more supportive.

Tony Abrahams
46 Posted 09/03/2023 at 21:14:47
You just took me back to Dominic's goal in May, Danny, and I nearly started crying with you, mate!

That goal, that powerful diving header, that incredibly, took one of the most powerful crowds I've ever witnessed up another level, will be remembered by us all forever, and this is what Calvert-Lewin can give us, especially now we have started getting the ball wide and delivering a lot more crosses into the box.

I'm beginning to look forward to Saturday, and hope we get the same type of awful refereeing decision that Brentford got in this fixture last season at a time in the game when they were getting absolutely blown away.

I can feel a little bit of belief slowly returning, and a win on Saturday would be absolutely massive.

Tony Everan
47 Posted 09/03/2023 at 21:16:16
We are a better side with Calvert-Lewin in it. He wins possession, he holds the ball up, he wins headers, free-kicks and throw-ins in the opposition half. He allows our midfield to breathe and keep its shape, this in turn takes the pressure off the defenders.

He is an important player who, when fitter, will get regular goals. In the meantime, he will help us get results the hard way. I hope he has turned the corner now with his injuries and makes some good progress.

I hope he is fit enough to give us 60 minutes on Saturday, it could make all the difference. Probably more likely that the team that faced Nottingham Forest starts and Calvert-Lewin comes on as reinforcements for the last 20 minutes or so. Whatever, it's great news he's back in full training.

What he likes to wear is his business, why should he suppress what he is interested in? For fuck's sake, it's not like he's raping the mouths of the dead.

Don Alexander
48 Posted 09/03/2023 at 21:17:11
Dave (#44), not with the cost of bicycle tyre repair kits these days.
Bill Gall
49 Posted 09/03/2023 at 21:39:32
Anyone that believes that Calvert-Lewin does not bring anything to the Everton team, have a look at this season's home game against Arsenal.
Paul Birmingham
50 Posted 09/03/2023 at 22:00:16
If Calvert-Lewin is fit and able for this Everton squad, he would start every game. Injuries have blighted his progression but that's football.

Sadly, it's Everton's lack of strategy to get in the right numbers of players in the forward line which has helped toward the current decline in scoring goals.

It's over half a decade (6 years) since Rom left; any club with serious aspirations to be competing in the Premier League would have addressed and fixed this straight away. The mind boggles. The more I think, the more it grinds how this has been allowed to happen.

If Pickford left, what would happen? Hypothetical but, if Calvert-Lewin gets seriously crocked, what will happen? The mind boggles. That's some going on pork scratchings in terms of goal-scoring capability to stay in this League.

The focus is on football, Everton beating Brentford, and surviving in the Premier League and, as a club, start a restart at in the close season at Board Level in a full or phased replacement programme. But the priority is Brentford, the most important objective to date this season is to win this game.

What Calvert-Lewin or any other footballer does at Everton in their private life is up to them. Wear the shirt, play for the Everton shirt, and give blood, sweat and tears as is needed. That's the minimum Evertonians expect from every player and so it should be.

So this fixture is being built up by the media, like Brentford are in cruise mode to beat Everton. Sean Dyche will use this media focus to drive the Everton squad to beat Brentford. It will happen.


Christy Ring
51 Posted 09/03/2023 at 22:18:47
Totally disappointed by some of the thrash thrown at Calvert-Lewin. In this day and age, you shouldn't even be allowed to print it.

Even with his injury, he's still at every game, shows his loyalty and passion for Everton, and his performance against Arsenal tells me he loves the club.

Paul Birmingham
52 Posted 09/03/2023 at 22:25:37
Well in, Christy.

Fekkn v Palace last season at home Calvert-Lewin with Gray's brilliant delivery saved Everton's season in 2021-22.

The home game v Arsenal a month ago, they couldn't control Calvert-Lewin.

In context of life, it makes you think, but Everton and Evertonians must unite for this massive game v Brentford.


Andrew James
53 Posted 09/03/2023 at 22:27:02
I suspect Calvert-Lewin is injured all the time – not so much because he was played as a youngster but because of how it was managed.

Koeman threw him out on the wing initially which was bizarre for a player of his height. He was being asked to run up and down it thus putting his hamstrings at risk.

Only a year or so later, he is placed as our target man and emphasis is put on his aerial threat which puts stress on other parts of his body. Then Ancelotti coaches him to make short runs in the box which means twisting and turning.

The body likes routine and repetition but to keep changing what he was doing as a striker was always going to be a risk, especially given he isn't the quickest and was getting fouled a lot and knocked about going for headers.

His injury woes have been distressing and frustratingly long drawn out but this was a player who looked dead set to score over 20 goals in the season when the pandemic happened and was disrupted.

I think we should be sympathetic towards him and not conflating his personal hobbies with him not making the first eleven.

Jamie Sweet
54 Posted 09/03/2023 at 22:39:34
Paul #19 says: "Fantastic if he plays and keeps us up, he will gain hero status."

Well, he's already done that once, mate, and yet here you are banging on about him "mincing about in dresses" and "poncing about in skirts".

I'm pretty sure he had an alternative dress sense at the time he scored the winner against Palace. I didn't see too many Blues worried about it then. You should probably consider being a little less worried about it now. It makes you come across as a bit of a dick.

Paul Birmingham
55 Posted 09/03/2023 at 23:04:50
“Whats Our Name?”

My favourite call-out song, at Everton matches, and events.

The Golden Age of Everton as a benchmark and spiritual home and content with football – Everton FC.

This weekend, all Evertonians, regardless of location and time zone, please make a minute to think before this game v Brentford.


Simon Dalzell
56 Posted 09/03/2023 at 23:06:27
Great news. Getting him back at the end of last season was the key to staying up. It's likely to be the same again.

Good luck, Dom. We desperately need you.

Danny O’Neill
57 Posted 09/03/2023 at 23:14:49
Paul, we will be there in person. We will be there from afar and in spirit. We will all be there and with them as we always are. All of us every one of us.

Chips peas and onion gravy with 3 points.

It's the simple things in life that make you happy.

Make me happy, Everton.

Jack Convery
58 Posted 09/03/2023 at 23:34:52
I expect to see:


Paul Birmingham
59 Posted 09/03/2023 at 00:10:26
Well in, Danny, let's all keep the faith over these tricky games.

This weekend is massive – Waterloo, no, but a game Everton can't lose.


Laurie Hartley
60 Posted 10/03/2023 at 06:48:05
No doubt a fit Calvert-Lewin is our best option up front but I am not expecting him to be starting this weekend based on Dyche's presser.

That being the case, I am hoping the manager selects the following as his starting line-up (4-5-1):-

Coleman, Keane, Tarkowski, Mykolenko
Gray, Doucoure, Gueye, Onana, McNeil

If Mykolenko isn't fit, Ben Godfrey no problem. I am looking for a goal each off Gray, Maupay, and McNeil.

We Shall Not Be Moved.

Kunal Desai
61 Posted 10/03/2023 at 07:17:31
I was very impressed with Brentford when I saw them at the Emirates last month. They got down both flanks with ease and should easily have led at the break. A well-drilled and physical side under Thomas Franck.

My concern is the pace they have in Wisaa and Mbeumo to get beyond our full-backs. Hopefully we can take something from this game.

Ajay Gopal
62 Posted 10/03/2023 at 07:28:29
Laurie (60),

There is very little chance that Dyche will change the starting XI; definitely he won't be dropping Iwobi.

What I would like to see Dyche do is be more proactive with the subs. I can understand why Dyche might not want to change things in a game if we are drawing or leading by a solitary goal – to try and keep what you have got. But at some point, he has to trust his bench.

I would hope to see Calvert-Lewin and Garner at some point in the game so that they gradually start reintegrating back into the team.

Danny O’Neill
63 Posted 10/03/2023 at 07:41:04

As the closet Premier League club to my home, I have watched Brentford develop and have the utmost respect for what they have achieved and where they are compared to where they came from.

As I've said a few times, I used to coach alongside their youth teams. And I saw them build that new stadium only a stones throw away from Griffin Park.

They, along with Brighton, are an example how to run a club with a plan and strategy, both on and off the pitch. They have a very good manager who has tapped into his Danish links very well.

Whether they can sustain it remains to be seen. It wasn't long ago we were citing Bournemouth and I even remember Charlton years ago. With no disrespect meant, these types of clubs tend to come and go.

We are Everton. The longest-serving member in the top flight of English football. We are playing at Goodison Park. I don't have hope. We go to win.

Anthony Murphy
64 Posted 10/03/2023 at 07:45:21
Calvert-Lewin is only discussed because of the negligence shown in the transfer market.

In a similar way, Maupay should not be blamed – he isn't what we need, but whose fault is that?

Brentford are on a great run, but it has to stop somewhere.

Laurie Hartley
65 Posted 10/03/2023 at 07:48:00
Ajay (62),

You are probably correct about him sticking with his last starting line-up. I just feel Gray is more of a goal threat.

I actually have McNeil and Gray on the wrong flanks. I meant to have Gray on the left and McNeil on the right so that they can cut in and shoot with their preferred foot.

Garner is an interesting shout – the little I have seen of him, I think he has a bit about him. That's what we need.

Robert Tressell
66 Posted 10/03/2023 at 07:57:33
I don't think Brentford can sustain it long term, Danny, but there's still plenty to admire.

They won't roll over tonight so we'll have to work very hard to earn a result. I'd like to see a bit more courage from Dyche in the starting line-up: Maupay and Gray up top together in a 4-4-1-1 – but at least with Dyche we know, whatever the formation etc, the work rate and organisation will mean we create enough chances to win.

Mal van Schaick
67 Posted 10/03/2023 at 08:35:54
Brentford away form: won 2, drawn 6, lost 3. For 13; against 19. 12 points.

We can beat them, but we will need every ounce of the Goodson roar, and no mistakes at the back. I'm hoping for a 2-0 home win. Calvert-Lewin to score.

Colin Glassar
68 Posted 10/03/2023 at 09:19:46
Lots to admire about progressive clubs like Brighton, Fulham, Brentford and the like but, sadly for them, the vultures will be circling come the summer, cherry-picking their managers and best players.

Everton, on the other hand, is a backward-looking club, run by an overweight dinosaur, with a bang-average manager and average to poor to shite players.

Premier League survival for another season is our goal. At least we don't have to worry about our “progress” being halted by richer and more powerful clubs.

Barry Rathbone
69 Posted 10/03/2023 at 09:21:56
Danny @ 42

"Did the fashion-conscious George Best's off-field dress at the time impact their view of him as a footballer?"

We all loved Best because he was a truly outstanding player right up there with all the world names but I would argue his off-field activities did impinge on his abilities and subsequent fall from grace.

If he wasn't attracted by so many external forces such as fashion, women and alcohol, would he have had a longer more fulfilling career?

Whether right or wrong, the Calvert-Lewin situation can be interpreted as similarly not being 100% focussed. Is he really putting everything into improving his conditioning and game in general to contribute to the cause?

I don't know but the early comments from Dyche suggest he's not convinced.

Alan J Thompson
70 Posted 10/03/2023 at 09:27:36
I don't care too much about a manager who can't simply reply that his responsibility is what players do on-field and what off it might affect that and anything else is a matter for the individual.

All rather childish because somebody might have a lifestyle that you wouldn't have for yourself and in itself shouldn't cause any anxiety. I perhaps could understand it if, after scoring, Calvert-Lewin ripped off his shirt revealing bra and knickers instead of the manly jock strap, depending on the colour and size, of course. Next thing you know he'll be wearing gloves in cold weather… Sheffield steel, eh.

Justin Fashnau, anybody?

John Bourne
71 Posted 10/03/2023 at 09:38:58
I have to admit that Calvert-Lewin's seemingly never-ending injuries do frustrate me; however, I am certain that they frustrate him far more.

Am I concerned about what he chooses to do in his spare time? No, I couldn't care less. I am only concerned with what he does inside the 18-yard box.

I watched Brentford v Fulham. Brentford are going to be more than a handful. We need Calvert-Lewin back.

And George Best? I consider myself privileged to have seen him play.

Paul Hewitt
72 Posted 10/03/2023 at 09:40:20
He ain't playing again this season, he'll probably leave in the summer. Forget about him.
Dave Abrahams
73 Posted 10/03/2023 at 09:41:46
Barry (69),

Yes, of course George Best's career was massively affected by his outside interests. You can't burn the candle at both ends like George did and continue to shine. That's why George's career as a top class footballer only lasted for 7 years but, in those 7 years, what a brilliant light he shone with his skill which was comparable with every world class footballer at the time and since.

I, for one, think that Dominic is doing everything he can to try and get back to being the fittest that he can. Why wouldn't he? The rewards will make him a very rich man at a very early age. It all depends on how you look at life.

John Bourne
74 Posted 10/03/2023 at 09:44:26
Colin @68,

Everton, on the other hand, is a backward-looking club, run by an overweight dinosaur, with a bang-average manager and average to poor to shite players.

I can't disagree with a single word, but your comments did make me laugh.

Brian Harrison
75 Posted 10/03/2023 at 09:47:07
I can't believe some of the comments about Dyche. The guy was asked, as always, "Is Calvert-Lewin fit?" He said, "He is back on the training field and he looks okay and he has even give me some tips on my dress sense."

How can you take Umbridge with that comment? He was doing what a good manager should do and diverting the whole thing being about Calvert-Lewin and his recovery.

I am sure Dyche is as frustrated as every fan that we have only had 70 minutes from Calvert-Lewin this season. I am sure there are many managers who would keep moaning about his top striker being injured, but Dyche correctly isn't letting this group of players be able to use that as an excuse. He is treating Calvert-Lewin's injury the same as Townsend and Garner, he is giving updates but that's it.

Amazing that Lampard seems to get away scot-free as to why he allowed this situation to have happened. He could have signed a striker when Richarlison went; he didn't. He waited till there were only days left before he signed Maupay.

This board and owner have a lot to answer for but us relying on a striker who wasn't fit for most of last seasn is the fault of Lampard and Thelwell.

Clive Rogers
76 Posted 10/03/2023 at 09:47:25
Unfortunately the team more or less picks itself.

There are several players I think should be left out, but I can't nominate anyone better to come in. That is Dyche's problem, the worst squad in my 65 years watching.

Rob Halligan
77 Posted 10/03/2023 at 09:48:42
Paul, how do you know he ain't playing again this season?

And if he's that injury-prone, nobody will be signing him, as he won't pass any medical, meaning he's probably not going this summer.

Bobby Mallon
78 Posted 10/03/2023 at 09:55:29
Well my team would be:

Calvert-Lewin or Simms
McNeil (most improved under Dyche)

Paul Hewitt
79 Posted 10/03/2023 at 09:58:13
Rob, he ain't injured, he's just given up on us. You can see when Dyche talks about him how frustrated he is with Dom.
Mark Murphy
80 Posted 10/03/2023 at 10:10:13
True story about Georgie Best and fashion.

My dad worked for Laing during the rebuilding of Salford and Manchester back in Best's day. My dad was the site manager in charge of building and fitting George's first Boutique and took me along to the tape cutting.

I was only around 8 at the time but I remember Best turning up in a flash car with a very beautiful lady on his arm. I don't remember if Mike Summerbee was there or not.

Sam Hoare
81 Posted 10/03/2023 at 10:10:37
Barry @69,

I think there's a big difference between being interested in fashion and in alcohol! The latter will almost definitely affect your performance on the pitch; the former is surely harmless in and of itself.

If there were rumours of Calvert-Lewin missing training to do photo shoots, that would be different… but there aren't as far as I know. If he were passionate about computer games (like most footballers), no-one would care a bit.

James Marshall
82 Posted 10/03/2023 at 10:10:43
Countless, and I literally mean, countless footballers are heavily into fashion and spend large amounts of time and money on fashion, going to fashion shows, fashion shoots and promotional events, all over the world, all the time.

The only reason Calvert-Lewin is being castigated is that he wears clothes you and I have no interest in being seen in, and did a shoot where he appeared in an androgynous outfit which people find challenging.

It's being used as a stick to beat him with over his injuries – which is nothing short of preposterous. He's a good-looking young kid with money to burn, and fashion companies clamouring for his services and to be seen in their clothing – so what?

The media whip this stuff up, and social media jumps on in, followed by supporters who like to use it as a convenient excuse for why he can't play.

Sean Dyche was deliberately alluding to the fashion thing as a dig at the media and the whole pointless hullabaloo over his injuries based on nothing but conjecture. Calvert-Lewin is injured – it has nothing to do with his interest in fashion – hence the dig by Dyche.

Sean Dyche is a very media-savvy manager who supports his players through thick and thin – he was in no way having a pop at Calvert-Lewin – quite the opposite, in my view.

Joe McMahon
83 Posted 10/03/2023 at 10:13:01
Colin #68, It does make me wonder if Chelsea would have been better with Dyche over Potter?

I've always thought, put the high profile names such as Klopp, Pep et al, and see what they could do at Rotherham, Sunderland, Huddersfield or Everton. Would anything change?

Brian Williams
84 Posted 10/03/2023 at 10:17:46
Alan #70,

Justin Fashnau, anybody?

Alan, I don't quite follow that question. Could you explain?

Tony Abrahams
85 Posted 10/03/2023 at 10:29:44
I will stick my neck out,Paul H, and say that Calvert-Lewin will score at least 5 goals in our remaining games.
Paul Hewitt
86 Posted 10/03/2023 at 10:32:30
I don't have a problem with Dom doing fashion shoots and commercials.

I do have a problem with him doing fashion shoots and commercials when he can't do his main job, ie, playing for us. The club should stop him doing any other work till he's fully fit.

James Marshall
87 Posted 10/03/2023 at 10:38:58
Paul - why do you have a problem with him doing photo shoots when he's not fit to play? What else do you have a problem with him doing while he's out injured?

Playing video games? Driving his car? Having a haircut maybe? What about going to nightclubs or the supermarket? Should he just sit at home quietly contemplating his injury until it clears up?

I've been signed off work since December – should I be allowed out of the house? Perhaps I should also stay indoors too, and heaven forbid, wear new clothes I've bought and be seen out in them.

I bought a few new pairs of trainers too recently - shame on me.

Football clubs can't stop a player from doing other things in his spare time, injured or otherwise – he's not in prison and it has no detrimental effect on his ability to play football for Everton. Sean Dyche alluded to this exact thing yesterday, yet you seem to think he's got a problem with Calvert-Lewin and has publically stated it – he hasn't.

If anything, he should be doing other things while he's not able to play football. I can assure you, sitting around the house for months on end is not good for you physically or mentally, footballer or otherwise.

Mark Taylor
88 Posted 10/03/2023 at 10:39:50
I suppose the reason people raise the fashion thing with Calvert-Lewin is that they believe, rightly or wrongly, that he has achieved far too little in his life to merit such celeb status, his co fashion partner even less.

I have some sympathy with that: he had one decent season but not a whole lot more. For sure, I'd sooner see him achieve higher things on the pitch than the fashion runway. George Best at least walked the walk.

Like Paul H, I've rather given up on Calvert-Lewin. Not because he wears strange clothes but I think there is something not quite right with him, which I believe Dyche has already alluded to. I'd love to be proven wrong – as I'm sure Dyche would.

It's a sign of the times that we approach a fixture at home to Brentford with some trepidation, and rightly so. They are less fragile than we seem to be and while it's a very small sample size, we have never beaten them in the Premier League – here's hoping for a first...

Paul Hewitt
89 Posted 10/03/2023 at 10:48:51
James @87.

He's supposed to be injured but still traveling and doing other work.

I will phone my boss up and tell him I'm sick, then go and do another job. I'd get sacked if he found out.

Dave Abrahams
90 Posted 10/03/2023 at 10:49:05
Alan (70),

Justin Fashnau, anybody? Why would anybody care these days or at any time to be honest?

If Dominic was a serial killer but was fit and banging in the goals for the Blues, I think I could turn a blind eye to that, Justin Fashnau was himself nothing to see or worry about there.

James Marshall
91 Posted 10/03/2023 at 10:54:36
Paul – it's contractual, so that's entirely different to me or you.

While we might be bound by the terms of our contracts to not take on any other paid work, Calvert-Lewin is not so he isn't governed by the same rules as we are.

Do you have a problem with him doing punditry work as well while injured? Or is it just the modelling that bothers you?

Paul Hewitt
92 Posted 10/03/2023 at 10:57:41

Like I said, he can do what he likes. But if you're not fit to do your main job, then maybe you shouldn't be doing other work.

Only my opinion.

Mark Ryan
94 Posted 10/03/2023 at 11:01:58
Let's all agree on the Calvert-Lewin issue: nobody on this site is really bothered what he wears. That's not why people have a pop at him.

If Dominic was able to play and score goals, nobody on here would give a damn. If he was like Haaland, Rooney (as was) or Jamie Vardy (as was), I'm pretty sure people would ignore him doing things that were deemed "extra curricular".

Those players sweat blood when they play. They score goals. That's what they do – come rain, come shine. Whatever is going on in their worlds matters not a jot.

At this time, Calvert-Lewin is none of those things and he doesn't play regular football. He is not and never will be a prolific goalscorer – even when fit. People are simply frustrated that our one and only recognised striker is often injured. That's it.

Some may think he is distracted by the fashion world? I'm sure that's not the case.

Trust me, if he was like Haaland, Rooney or Vardy and banging in goals, whilst at the weekend he was spotted wearing Ken Dodd's Diddyman Hat, it wouldn't be long before we would all join him in the stands on matchdays, wearing the self-same hat and sporting tickling sticks.

We're not bothered how he dresses. He's just not there for us when we need him most and people are venting their spleens. It's what humans do.

Mark Murphy
95 Posted 10/03/2023 at 11:07:56
I don't give two monkeys about what Calvert-Lewin wears or dies off the pitch (although the ripped socks thing irritates me…) so long as he comes back fresh and fit and does what he's capable of.

In the meantime, to all lucky enough to go tomorrow and watch the glorious victory that lifts us out of the Bottom 3 – have a great day, and as they say in Early Doors – I wish I was there!

For those watching and commenting on the Live Forum, give it until half time at least before you give up on em, eh??


James Marshall
96 Posted 10/03/2023 at 11:10:05
Paul – but why shouldn't he do other work? You're not giving any reasonable response as to why you disagree with him doing modelling work when injured.

If it's 'just your opinion', then surely you have some logical reason for that opinion?

I just don't get why supporters come on a site like this with an 'opinion' but don't back it up with sensible, logic-based reasons for those opinions. :)

Danny O’Neill
97 Posted 10/03/2023 at 11:11:56
I like that post, Mark. Very much to the point.

On George Best, it's why I was careful to mention that other factors led to his demise rather than his fashion sense,

I do get the point of off-field activities distracting from the primary contracted aim of a footballer, but I am sure the club sanctions such activities.

Rooney and others with film shoots for sponsors and global brands. Beckham building his brand. It's not new nor uncommon.

Let's get him fit and back on the pitch. He can carry on with his other activities as much as he wants. I just want him fit and scoring a few goals. I agree, he isn't prolific, probably never will be, but he's what we have got and need.

Hopefully he will feature tomorrow, get the winner and set up the hard-working Maupay for the second.

Barry Hesketh
98 Posted 10/03/2023 at 11:20:47
How long does a photo-shoot last? About the same time as a promotional video for EitC or a personal appearance at similar events – the way some people talk, it's as if Dominic has chosen to be a full-time fashion model and a part-time footballer.

The distance between the fans and the players has never been greater, but is that solely the players' fault or is it down to some of the fans who are prone to examine every minute detail of a players character and lifestyle, without fully knowing the facts or the person they are psychoanalysing?

It's simple for me: if he's not on the pitch or involved in the first-team, I don't give it a moments thought, although I am as deeply disappointed as others may be that a key player is absent.

Professionals have deemed him unfit to play or not good enough to be chosen; therefore, I tend to concentrate on those that are fit and ready and chosen to play. Criticism of a player's ability is legitimate; character assassination of a player – for whatever reason – isn't.

Joe McMahon
99 Posted 10/03/2023 at 11:21:53
Danny, for a few years, George Best had skills and delivered, and was sensational to watch. I think Beckham's profile rose beyond expectations due to football becoming global and his high-profile stunning wife. All the elements were in place.

Calvert-Lewin can model all he wants, but has not only got to get fit but also master his shooting and one-on-ones. Look at Salah and Kane, he's not in the same league. Van Persie, Drogba, Aguero – the list of complete strikers is endless.

Rashford went through a dreadful patch, and an amazing talent, but it makes you wonder if his long dip in was because of his school dinners project? He wasn't focused on football and Calvert-Lewin needs to be. Fashion shoots can wait.

Paul Hewitt
100 Posted 10/03/2023 at 11:26:43
Okay, James, I will say it one more time, but slower for you.

He's not fit and can't play football (his main job). He (in my opinion) shouldn't be doing other work but making sure he gets 100% fit. We are in a real fight to stay up but he's off doing other things.

Do me a favour…

Robert Tressell
101 Posted 10/03/2023 at 11:36:57
Paul, I completely agree.

That's why I could never understand the hero status for Duncan Ferguson. Always off with his pigeons instead of working for what he was paid handsomely for. His head was never right. Just another phoney pretending to be injured and not working hard enough for the team.

James Marshall
102 Posted 10/03/2023 at 11:43:02
So again, you give no reason as to why you hold this opinion, other than it being your opinion.

I'm glad we cleared this up.

There are no reasons, as far as I can tell, see or read as to why Calvert-Lewin shouldn't do modelling, or work in his local Post Office when he's out injured, and evidently, neither can you.

James Marshall
103 Posted 10/03/2023 at 11:49:53
It's just such a nonsense that doing a photo shoot somehow affects his playing ability and focus on football. Do people honestly believe he's swanning about doing photo shoots left, right and centre and the club let it impinge on his ability to fulfil his multi-million-pound contract obligations?

Come off it – there's just no logic to that thinking on any level.

Footballers have a lot of downtime between training and games – they do all sorts of things to fill their time. Modelling is the issue here because men feel threatened by it.

Now someone has said that Duncan Ferguson pretended to be injured so he could fancy his pigeons! Hahaha!

Paul Hewitt
104 Posted 10/03/2023 at 11:50:18
Is not being fit not a reason?
James Marshall
105 Posted 10/03/2023 at 11:55:15
Not being fit is a reason not to play football, yes.

Is it a reason not to do other things? No, it's a reason to do other things.

Bobby Mallon
106 Posted 10/03/2023 at 12:00:54
Let's get 1 thing straight. We need a win tomorrow without a doubt. But it won't be easy and I'm very worried about this game.

They have not lost in 9, beating Liverpool and drawing with Arsenal. They do have strikers who can score and I don't think we have beaten them in the Premier League. COYB

Paul Hewitt
107 Posted 10/03/2023 at 12:11:40
James, if he was fit and playing football, he could model pink tutus for me.
John Hood
108 Posted 10/03/2023 at 12:14:58
Bees fan here (again).

Hope no one objects to my thoughts being on here.
Now in my 62nd season supporting Brentford FC. For the first 50 of these, they were a Division 3 or 4 then League One or Two club whose main aim was to survive. We had some good times under stalwarts like Bill Dodgin, John Docherty, Steve Perryman and Steve Koppel but mainly it was an on-going struggle.

Then, 13 years ago, we were a League 2 outfit with few prospects, having just had a near-extinction event under the charming Ron Noades. Once again, the fans had stepped in and saved the club from going under.

Then a genuine fan, Matthew Benham, whose background was in mathematics, stepped in. What has happened since is an amazing journey which we old-timers still can scarcely believe. In the last 18 months, we have beaten Man Utd, Man City, Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool (reducing Mr Klopp to apoplexy) and lots of other huge names in football. Currently, we're in the Top 10.

How this has been achieved has been much discussed but often misunderstood. One of the most interesting aspects is how the process of scrapping the tried and tested methods and embarking on a new approach was viewed by the "experts". With very few exceptions, the assorted pundits, commentators, ex-pro rent-a-gobs and media tarts announced that "It'll never work in England, he doesn't know what he's doing " etc.

We were told that Brentford couldn't get out of League One; then that they could not survive long in The Championship. Last season it was: "They won't get 10 points, no way can they survive with their budget" etc etc.

At the beginning of this season, it was the usual nonsense: "Second season syndrome" (which is a myth long recited by lazy and ignorant journalists), "Eriksen kept them up" (no, he didn't – although he certainly helped). How do these clowns make a living?

Anyway, as to tomorrow... Bees will certainly travel full of confidence but it will be a very tough match for them as only a fool would underestimate a shrewd operator like Sean Dyche. Most of the wins this season have been with 35% possession.

Brentford are trained to defend well and wait for the attacking side to lose the ball. They then break very quickly using the speed of Henry, Wissa, and Mbeumo, combined with Toney's exceptional hold-up play.

I think the opening goal will be very important. A draw would not surprise me.

All the best to The Toffees for the rest of the season. How on earth a club with the history and tradition of Everton got in this mess is another story. But we wouldn't swap Matthew Benham for Bill Kenwright.

Sean Roe
109 Posted 10/03/2023 at 12:15:49
Don't players finish training around 1 pm anyway? Plenty of time for a photo shoot afterwards. Who knows what time of the day it was?

Anyway, tomorrow, Everton 2 v 0 Brentford.

Garry Martin
110 Posted 10/03/2023 at 12:17:15
Dyche probaly gave a clue about Calvert-Lewin's mental state by referring to discussions about "fashion".

Dyche is fighting to ensure Everton stay in the Premier League and any players not getting on board with his methods or techniques will probably find themselves on the short end of his temper.

Calvert-Lewin (sicknote) has obviously been rumbled by Dyche.

James Marshall
111 Posted 10/03/2023 at 12:18:16
Paul - and the mention of 'pink tutus' appears to point to your problem being specifically with his modelling, and wearing clothes that you deem inappropriate for a man to wear?

So basically you don't have any issues with him doing 'other things' when injured, but you take exception to him modelling, and specifically modelling in a pair of culottes. We got there in the end. :)

Danny O’Neill
112 Posted 10/03/2023 at 12:19:23
I know this is a pre-match build up thread on an Everton themed post on an Everton website, but some really good discussion here.

Barry @98 agree with just about all of your post. It pretty much captures my opinion on Dominic and our focus tomorrow is on the players who are on the pitch or the bench. They are who matters tomorrow.

Joe @99. Very good points on Beckham and Rashford. I was never really convinced that Beckham was one of football's greats. I may sound harsh or uneducated, but although in a different position and for different reasons, I saw parallels with Lineker. Not a particularly brilliant footballer but he brought something to impact the game in a very good team.

In Beckham's case, it was that ability at set pieces and delivery for the forwards. Lineker's was scoring goals, using his pace as he could barely pass or beat a defender with the ball at his feet on most occasions.

On Rashford, I agree. Now he's focussed back on his football, you can see the difference in him.

Robert @101. Funnily enough, I was having discussion about Duncan Ferguson this morning. I too never really understood the cult status. My best mate got his hair styled in recognition of him in the 90s. Joe Royle called it right. For me, he underachieved.

Okay, I can't question injury, but his indiscipline was also a factor. I get that for a generation, those fleeting moments were the only thing they had to hold onto. But he never really done it consistently enough to be called a legend other than for his character in my opinion.

I always felt he was a reluctant footballer. That's just a hunch though, not based on any knowledge.

Danny O’Neill
113 Posted 10/03/2023 at 12:30:02
You are welcome, John Hood.

I'll probably be travelling with half of your crowd there and back!

Absolutely outstanding what Brentford have achieved. I live in Uxbridge and coached at Hayes & Yeading for years, so I'm very familiar with Brentford.

Dave Abrahams
114 Posted 10/03/2023 at 12:31:49
John (108),

Nice to hear from you again, a genuine supporter who has followed his club through thick and thin and is now getting plenty of enjoyment following the now most successful part of Brentford's history in English football.

You and your fellow Brentford fans deserve the rewards you now getting, seeing your club so high up in the premier league and watching such good attacking football, which an envious Everton fan wishes he was seeing from my club although the signs are slowly changing under Sean Dyche.

As for you and Brentford fans not wishing to swap Mathew Bentham for Bill Kenwright, I'd swap Kenwright for Charles Bronson if he gets his parole!!

Paul Hewitt
115 Posted 10/03/2023 at 12:34:07
James you must be related to my wife. She too twists my words.😆
Barry Rathbone
116 Posted 10/03/2023 at 12:41:15
Joe McMahon @99,

I think that's a real possibility regarding Rashford and certainly Man Utd fans weren't slow in coming to that conclusion – it's all about perception.

Calvert-Lewin might be working like trojan for all we know but becoming a perma-crock whilst advertising shavers amidst fashion shoots leaves him open to "not arsed, mind elsewhere" comments.

Mind you… what footballer is arsed these days?

David West
117 Posted 10/03/2023 at 12:45:43
I like how Dyche isn't putting all the emphasis on Calvert-Lewin, like Lampard did. If he's not fit, let's not waste our breath... Even if we get him back in the next few games, he's not going to be fully match-fit for a few weeks.

Talk up the other players, try putting some more confidence in them.

This is a massive game for us; tough opposition but – if they improve just a little from Forest game, 3 points are there for us. COYB!
Mick O'Malley
118 Posted 10/03/2023 at 12:46:29
I reckon Duncan Ferguson got cult status because of the winner he scored against Liverpool on his debut. He was always up for a derby so he was a real hero of mine for that reason alone.

Whatever anyone else thinks of him is up to them but, for me, he was an Everton hero and always will be. Evertonians love their centre-forwards.

Tony Abrahams
119 Posted 10/03/2023 at 12:49:11
John @108,

I was thinking you might come on mate, and after reading your wonderful post about how Brentford have continually made fools out of the ignorant fools, then I wouldn't swap Bentham for Bill Kenwright either. You deserve all the success you are getting, aided and abetted by a true Brentford fan who had a vision for your football club and not a vision that was just for himself.

You don't get anywhere far if you haven't got a plan. This is why I genuinely wish your football club all the success in the world, John.

I thought you were awful at Goodison in the cup, and I definitely thought you were going to be dragged into the relegation battle after I saw your display that day. Erickson does deserve a lot of credit because you haven't looked back since you signed him, even if he has since left your club.

I said earlier in this thread that I hope we get the rub of the green that you lot got at Goodison from Michael Oliver last season. Although he gave us a dodgy penalty, I think the damage came when he never gave us an earlier penalty, and couldn't wait to burst our balloon (this is how it felt to me, John!) about 10 seconds later.

We were probably playing as well as we ever did under Frank Lampard that day. Hopefully we can put in a similar performance tomorrow but with eleven men performing for 90 minutes.

Best of luck to the Bees though, John, especially for the old timers like yourself who have stood the true test of time; you must be thoroughly enjoying yourselves right now.

Danny O’Neill
120 Posted 10/03/2023 at 12:52:19
That's fair, Mick, and I understand. I just always try to view and judge Duncan, like any footballer, as the player based on my own opinion.

Apart from Kevin Sheedy. He could walk on water, across puddles and not get his feet wet.

Is he available tomorrow?

Robert Tressell
121 Posted 10/03/2023 at 12:53:55
I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on Big Dunc, Mick. But I don't think anyone can argue about that waste of space Tony Hibbert turning up at training stinking of freshwater carp when he couldn't trap a bag of cement. Makes my blood boil.

My dad used to moan about what could have been with Brian Labone, who wasted his talent with bloody stamp collecting. Bobby Moore wasn't a patch on Labone but fulfilled his potential through having no hobbies whatsoever.

Frank Fearns
122 Posted 10/03/2023 at 12:57:28
Joe 99 & Barry 116,

Rashford transformed once Ronaldo was out of the club.

I don't usually comment on the team selection but have been disheartened with Onana's performance in the last three games. He doesn't seem to be up for the fight despite his gesturing to the crowd. He hardly touched the ball against Forest and, from what I saw, did not create an outlet for the man on the ball, ie, he was always behind a Forest player. I'd drop him.

Dave Lynch
123 Posted 10/03/2023 at 13:05:21
Meanwhile... back to the match.

Brentford are one of the most improved teams in English football. They have pace, tenacity and score goals. None of which apply to us.

Is this another must-win game? Because time is running out... fast.

James Marshall
124 Posted 10/03/2023 at 13:11:57
Paul - maybe I am your wife!
James Marshall
125 Posted 10/03/2023 at 13:13:52
Incidentally - I can't help feeling we'll lose to Brentford tomorrow. They're a really good side, well managed with good balance and goal threat.

They're levels above our rabble and I can see us getting done. Sadly I think this is one of the games we really have to win to stand a hope in hell's chance of staying up.

If you look at our fixtures remaining, it's very difficult to see where enough wins are going to happen.

Barry Rathbone
126 Posted 10/03/2023 at 13:13:56
Frank 122,

As I said, "possibly".

Doesn't detract from the perception of plenty of Man Utd fans putting his drop in form down to off-field activities. Certainly not heard "it was Ronaldo's fault" from any.

Mark Taylor
127 Posted 10/03/2023 at 13:17:35
Dave, to answer your question, while it gets a bit hackneyed to call a match a 'must-win', I think it does apply more than usual to this game. Mainly because, and with all due respect to Brentford, this looks, on paper at least, the most winnable of the next 4 unless Spurs have a meltdown.

Increasingly our fate also lies in the hands of others and what they do around us. If the teams around us start picking up the odd win or two, as they have been doing, my fear is us beginning to be cut adrift by the start of April. I really don't think a draw will do here...

Paul Hewitt
128 Posted 10/03/2023 at 13:27:44
James, what you doing for tea then?
James Marshall
129 Posted 10/03/2023 at 13:37:51
Get your own tea, you're not injured. ;-)
Mark Murphy
130 Posted 10/03/2023 at 13:47:45
DOES off the pitch FFS!!
Kieran Kinsella
131 Posted 10/03/2023 at 13:49:16
John Hood,

Welcome back, mate. I was scrolling through this to see if you'd pop up with your perspective. Your team are having quite the season. And Frank has proved he wasn't a one-season wonder, aka Laudrup at Swansea.

Good luck – other than tomorrow, of course!

Kieran Kinsella
132 Posted 10/03/2023 at 13:51:08

I never understood the hero worship of the felon pigeon whisperer either. What a waste of talent. Brilliant when he could be bothered but that was very rare.

Matthew Williams
133 Posted 10/03/2023 at 14:00:28
I've said it before, we simply can't rely on Calvert-Lewin to fire us to safety – the rest of the lads really need to step up now.

The main problem for me is our three-man midfield, as it's way too safe and way too negative. Try a two in there and play two up front for once... a 4-4-1-1 would be ideal for us now, but is our Gaffer brave enough to play it?

Rob Halligan
134 Posted 10/03/2023 at 14:02:12

Calvert-Lewin is back doing his job, as Dyche has said he's back taking part in full training with the rest of the squad, and no doubt will be available for tomorrow.

As regards this “other job”, as you call it, I don't think Calvert-Lewin, or anybody else for that matter who may do modelling, is sprinting up and down a catwalk, jumping into the air in the process, twisting and turning, being clattered from behind etc. So there's not much danger of any serious injury whilst on the catwalk.

Jeez, you'll be saying he shouldn't be advertising razor blades next, for fear of slitting his throat!

Allan Board
135 Posted 10/03/2023 at 14:04:04
A must-win game – end of.

Up next: Chelsea then Man Utd away, Spurs at home. I'd take 6 points from these next 4 games today. Reality is 4 points. Beat Fulham at home, draw at Palace. We could be on 30 points with 6 to play?

We still have Man City, Newcastle and Brighton to play, out of which I think we could beat Newcastle at home, they can't score in a brothel now, but zero chance v Man City and Brighton. So, 33 points with away games at Leicester, Wolves and home to Bournemouth. Realistically, those last 3 are all shite teams, but so are Everton.

I will stick to 36 points total – right on the borderline considering the amount of teams involved in this relegation stuff.

Anthony A Hughes
136 Posted 10/03/2023 at 14:05:41
If Calvert-Lewin wants a second job, why doesn't he just go on the taxis or works for the firefighters? :)
James Marshall
137 Posted 10/03/2023 at 14:11:55
I reckon we'll be relegated on 33 points absolute maximum. I can also see us going down with 29 points well before the end of the season.
Andy Crooks
138 Posted 10/03/2023 at 14:15:08
Good stuff, Robert Tressell!

Would like some of the amazing mind readers on here who know what Sean is thinking to tell us more. Unless, of course, Sean is in touch with them to confirm he shares their odd fixations.

Bill Gall
139 Posted 10/03/2023 at 14:22:53
I can't see the need for people to continue debating on whether what Calvert-Lewin does while he is injured is alright or should not be allowed.

All professional footballers are under contract and when injured it is up to the medical staff to determine if there is anything that they are doing after treatment that is not detrimental to their recovery.

As far as posing in a fashion magazine in clothes that very rarely become an item that the average person can afford never mind wear, as long as it is not slowing Calvert-Lewin's recovery, who cares?

I think most young people, from about 16 to their mid- or late-20s, like to dress fashionably but not outlandishly like models in a glossy magazine, who rely on well-known personalities to show off their designs.

It must not be slowing Calvert-Lewin's recovery as the club would have stopped it – just get him out on the pitch playing.

Rob Halligan
140 Posted 10/03/2023 at 14:46:05
Just watched the latest training video on the club website. DCL took part and looks in a happy mood. For some reason, when I try and copy and paste the link, it keeps putting the Sean Dyche Villa press conference up. As I say, It’s on the club website if anyone is interested.
Danny O’Neill
141 Posted 10/03/2023 at 14:49:52
I can't comprehend making a 500 mile round trip with the mentality of thinking we are going to lose.

I don't take winning for granted. I played football, coached football and have watched Everton enough in my life to know winning isn't guaranteed, but we go there tomorrow aiming to win, not thinking we will lose.

We were going to be overrun by Leeds apparently. We had no chance at home to Arsenal apparently.

We got 6 points from those two fixtures.

John Keating
142 Posted 10/03/2023 at 14:49:58
If DCL can give us 30-45 minutes this weekend then he has to start
We have to plan on going ahead and somehow holding on for a win
If we go behind we’re snookered

We can’t keep saying we’re improving under Dyche, we don’t have enough games left
We need wins not plaudits for improvement

A win at home tomorrow is an absolute must nothing else is good enough

Christopher Timmins
143 Posted 10/03/2023 at 14:56:41
A difficult game no doubt against a very well organised team who are physical and hard to beat, however, if we can produce the first half display at the City Ground for the full 90 minutes plus tomorrow, we are more than capable of taking something from the game.

I would go with Garner in the central area in the hope that he might add the creativity needed to open them up.

Jerome Shields
144 Posted 10/03/2023 at 15:02:34
Hopefully Dyche gets a tune out of Onana.Need a alternative threat to Gray, who will be marked for sure.Would prefer Coady back in place of Keane.Aleast he gets his tackles right.Still need cover for the defence in defensive midfield. Dyche has to bite the bullet on tactical substitutions in the second half round 60' and to make his mind up on the bench, to do so.
John Hall
145 Posted 10/03/2023 at 15:03:24
According to the beeb we have exactly the same points after 26 games as last season. We then got 5 wins out of our final 12 games to stay up. Can we do it again with no Ritchie? I'm not so sure
Pete Clarke
146 Posted 10/03/2023 at 15:03:58
I couldn’t care if DCL came out and announced he was gay or whatever. Nothing bad or weird about that but actually dressing up in skirts and high heels is just plain ridiculous in my opinion. If he was a Liverpool player we would all be laughing our heads off so let’s not all pretend it’s normal because it’s not. To think Bob Latchford and Gary Stanley got loads of stick just for getting perms ! Peter Reid got stick just for dying his hair black ffs.
The bigger picture here is that due to the appalling management of our club we are once again in a fight for survival and DCL is probably our last throw of the dice to keep us up. He’s not even that great a player but he has enough to possibly make a difference to this poor team of ours in the remaining games and I want to see him back in the team.
Irony of all this DCL talk is that if we get beat tomorrow it’s probably all over for us and we won’t see him play for us again anyway as our beloved owner will see him as another way of recouping some more money.
Bill Gall
147 Posted 10/03/2023 at 15:10:41
HI Rob,

Just watched that training session video and DCL looked ok and with how slippy the pitch must be I cant see them letting him extend to much if his injury is not ok for stretching.

The only laugh I get is when they say they are training in snow covered pitches. I know its where I chose to live but twice this week I have cleared over 1ft of snow off my driveway and deck.

Lets hope that DCL is ok to come off the bench as I don't think they will start him.

Christy Ring
148 Posted 10/03/2023 at 15:45:48
Rob#140 Rob just watched the training video, and DCL playing in the 7 aside, which is great to see. Listening to Dyche over the last month, saying he wouldn't be back until he's completely fit. Hopefully his multiple injuries are behind him, we're stronger and a more attacking threat with Dom upfront, he's the only target man we have, thanks to the board, and I hope we won't have to read anymore vile comments about DCL'S private life.
Bill Gall
149 Posted 10/03/2023 at 15:50:43
Danny #141
I believe the one thing that Dyche is starting to install in the players is confidence in each other, and at Goodison Park I cant see any team, like you say, over running us. Most games are won in midfield but the danger I see from Brentford is they like to use the long ball to by pass the midfield and pressure the back line.
There is no thing as an easy game, but at home a win is to be expected. Have a safe Journey.
Paul Washington
150 Posted 10/03/2023 at 15:52:53
John Hood,

Great insight into Brentford's adventures of the past, they seem a thoroughly well run club and a team that's developing really well.

Thanks for the good wishes, it's good to see other teams' fans wanting us to do well, as I normally find that other fans are chomping at the bit for us to drop.

Eddie Dunn
151 Posted 10/03/2023 at 15:56:12
Watched the training vid in the snow. Davies stood out but Simms looked pretty poor.
It will be a boost if Domenic makes the matchday squad but I can't see him starting.
Fran Mitchell
152 Posted 10/03/2023 at 16:57:06
The mistakes made with DCL in the past of throwing him into the first 11 as soon as he was 'fit enough' has been very damaging. Both to his physical fitness as he often would just end up aggravating an injury that he hadn't fully recovered from.

And also, he wasn't up to scratch, and with the pressure mounted on his shoulders from managers and fans alike, I'm sure it didn't help.

So Dyche, pleasingly, seems to have adopted a much more patient approach in the hope of getting long term recovery. For this reason also, I can't see him starting tomorrow, or indeed next week.

But having him on the bench and able to come on with 20 minutes remaining will be a huge boost. If we're drawing, he is an option to potentially win it, and if we're winning, he's an option to help us secure victory with his hold up play.

Expect an unchanged team from Forest, maybe with the exception of Mykolenko for Godfrey.

1-0 to the Everton!

Will Mabon
153 Posted 10/03/2023 at 17:05:36
John @ 145,

thanks for that slight bit of optimism. I know we had 15 points from 19 games compared with 19 from 15 last season, which was a horrible portent. At least we are back "on track" and in with a chance with Dyche.

Raymond Fox
154 Posted 10/03/2023 at 17:11:08
Another tough game thats hard to call.

Will DCL play who knows, I think it will undoubtably improve our chances if he does. I see Richarlison is moaning he's getting very little playing time which is no great suprise is it, he would have been better staying with us and playing every game if fit.

The betting is pointing to another draw but we need a win urgently.

Its difficult to keep Toney quiet it seems, if we can I'm hoping we can scrape a win. It would be worth Moshiri's weight in gold.

James Marshall
155 Posted 10/03/2023 at 17:22:22
The irony about the irony of people talking about DCL wearing a skirt, is that he never actually wore a skirt.
Andrew Keatley
156 Posted 10/03/2023 at 17:32:05
Pete Clarke (146) - "I couldn’t care if DCL came out and announced he was gay or whatever. Nothing bad or weird about that but actually dressing up in skirts and high heels is just plain ridiculous in my opinion."

Do you really care what DCL wears in his spare time? Does anyone on here really care about what any of our players wear in their spare time? I only care what they wear come match-day, and I hope that DCL manages to get his tracksuit off at some point and get onto the pitch. Come on Dom, I want to see the number 9 on your back and your arms aloft.

Kunal Desai
157 Posted 10/03/2023 at 18:00:53
63# Danny - sorry to be pedantic L on the end not I on my name:-)

Agree, we are Everton, but lets put it into perspective we cannot change our PL history, other than one FA cup win we have done nothing of note.

I'm fortunate to have seen the glory days when we ruled, Watford 84, Rapid Vienna & Bayern in 85.

I feel the pain and extreme sorrow for those tounger fans who travel all over the country to support us and have not see us win a single piece of silverware.

We need to push for a new owner and new board. Those who share the same mindset as us 'this is Everton' and needs to get back to where we belong. Challenging for top honours.

At present the likes of Brighton under Paul Barber have an excellent operating model in place, it's run like a well oiled machine. If there is a model is place any business can work, despite what history tells us.

Proactivity is what i'd call it and there is no evidence at our club this exists. It's paramount that the priority has to be the removal of those on the board at Everton and possibly the owner to sell to someone who can take the club forward, anything else is irrelvant as far as i'm concerned. These people will to drag the club down the mire.

I'm glad the majority of our fanbase are now see the real issue and the prominent and constant denominator being a chairman who hasn't been fit for purpose (which i've continously called out for over 15 plus years) is now of the same opinion by many others.

Mark Ryan
158 Posted 10/03/2023 at 18:23:46
Eddie 151 spot on sir
I thought exactly the same. Tom D looked very sharp, very keen. Simms looked liked his touch was off and I saw Garner cross a beauty for Doucoure to score at the far post. Dom scored too and looked okay. I suspect he's not far away
2-1 the Toffees !!
Doucoure and Tom at the double, its written in the stars
Ernie Baywood
159 Posted 10/03/2023 at 18:56:24
Did anyone question whether Duncan Ferguson's problem was really that he was distracted by the pigeons? No, we sung songs about it.

Just be honest and admit you're confronted by a man in a skirt (or whatever it was).

Personally, I think it's fine for him to have an interest outside of football. I'm not sure it's really anything to do with me but it makes sense that an injured footballer would do something of low intensity and that he enjoys with his time

Whereas Darron Gibson's interests while injured were perfectly legitimate to challenge.

Will Mabon
160 Posted 10/03/2023 at 19:28:48
"Did anyone question whether Duncan Ferguson's problem was really that he was distracted by the pigeons?"

Ernie, no, I don't think they did. They might have though had he worn a skirt, let's be honest.

Nick Page
161 Posted 10/03/2023 at 19:35:37

Only left Everton a couple of years ago. Absolutely astonishing stuff.

The fucking state of Kenwrights Everton. Laughing stock. Absolutely miles away from Brentford and OMG what I would give for a Chairman like Matthew Benham.

Danny O’Neill
162 Posted 10/03/2023 at 19:40:51
Duncan may well have worn a skirt at some point in his life.

They just call them kilts in Scotland and its acceptable for males ro wear them.

Brentford tomorrow. The players will be wearing Royal Blue shirts, white shorts and white socks.

They can wear what they want after we win.

Will Mabon
163 Posted 10/03/2023 at 19:52:45
Nice one, Danny, but kind of not the same.

Kilted Scotsmen do not look like schoolgirls!

Will Mabon
164 Posted 10/03/2023 at 19:55:26
Nick, Everton was used merely as part of his "development" :-)
Paul Armstrong
165 Posted 10/03/2023 at 20:16:53
Hate to say it but I think James (137) has got it right.
Robert Tressell
166 Posted 10/03/2023 at 20:18:22
Ernie # 159, we'll never know what could have been without those pigeons. But if he hadn't been mincing about in waders all the time Hibbert would have been the next Cafu.
Mark Ryan
167 Posted 10/03/2023 at 20:46:02
Have you seen and read about Linekergate ?
So which prick will eventually have such low morals that he or she will say " okay I was 48th choice but I'll present MOTD.
My money is on Bill Kenwright !!!
Fran Mitchell
168 Posted 10/03/2023 at 21:06:11
Calvert Lewin, being the tall and very good looking fellow that he is, is well suited to modelled. So long as he doesn't take coke or fall victim to anorexia or other disorders associated with the profession, who cares?

All footballers have plenty of spare time, it's not like they're doing 12hr shifts down the mill, and finding a way to occupy that time I imagine is of prime importance.

Some footballers focus on entrepreneurship, others playing video games, others golf and etc...others are into partying, gambling.

some are more detrimental than others, but pretty sure modelling didn't cause David Beckham too many issues when winning everything there was to win with Madrid and Man U. Ronaldo also seemed to make a reasonable career while also doing multiple modeller contracts. Zlatan too managed to squeeze a few goals in between shoots.

So really, is it really an issue to be discussed?

Paul Jones
169 Posted 10/03/2023 at 21:06:29
Jesus Christ- you think it's bad enough being an Evertonian only to get stuff like this - Anthony Gordon says lack of 'credit' from Everton hurt him after Newcastle move.

It seems fashionable to join the queue to kick the shit out of us these days. When did this become the norm?

Martin Mason
170 Posted 11/03/2023 at 00:37:04
Must win game this, if not it'll have to be next week.
Danny O’Neill
171 Posted 11/03/2023 at 06:29:30
Heading to Goodison in a couple of hours for a long day.

Make it worth my while blues.

Randomly, I've got the "Get down to Goodison" tune / chant in my head.

Does anyone remember it from the 80s Radio City advert or am I imaging it and making it up?

See some of you there.

Bobby Mallon
172 Posted 11/03/2023 at 06:44:29
Safe journey, Danny and all travellers.

I think we will win 1-0. COYB

Derek Knox
173 Posted 11/03/2023 at 07:22:06
Paul @ 69, what does Anthony Gordon want credit for? He must be on megamoolahs! :-)

Danny, I hope to see you later, we'll be in the Harlech Castle just up from the Oak and opposite KFC on County Road. At least you can get served in there if you get there fairly handy. Oak rhymes with joke these days, 5 deep at the Bar and that blaring repetitive music from the '60s. '70s and '80s.

Dark House similar (without the music) unless you get in early, though always have a chat with George McKane. Miss that part of it, and that lovely Madri Lager.

Jonathan Tasker
174 Posted 11/03/2023 at 07:35:10
Calvert-Lewin is League One standard. He's a distraction from the main issue of trying to stay up.
Jeff Armstrong
175 Posted 11/03/2023 at 08:15:46
No, Danny, you didn't imagine that.

“Get down to Goodison” was indeed the start of the advert with a bit of dialogue as to who we would be playing in the upcoming match.

Derek, 'oak' has always rhymed with 'joke'!

Paul Tran
176 Posted 11/03/2023 at 08:45:10
Yes, Jeff, a few lads behind me in the Street End used to regularly sing 'Get your head down at Goodison'!
Jerome Shields
177 Posted 11/03/2023 at 08:46:19
Johnathan #174,

In the Championship and the League, a centre-forward would still be expected to do the basics right and follow tactics. Quite a few Everton players don't and can become invisible in games.

Martinez fell down on defensive tactics and wasn't aware enough to keep defenders at it. Silva had the right tactics and worked extremely hard at preparation, but was let down by players and the Director of Football.

Ancelotti played a low technical type of football, believing not enough of the players had enough technical ability. This actually suited Calvert-Lewin. Lampard was into drills to try to compensate for a lack of technical ability. Dyche is into data and he is quite good at implementing it into tactics. The club management are into making a profit out of transfers, with a make-do-and-mend attitude to the squad.

Calvert-Lewin is a Premier League player. He does have the ability, but shortage of forwards means he has been pushed into the coveted centre-forward role at Everton, with all its pressures, and played when injured. He has only ever been a professional footballer and has occupied that rarified atmosphere that we can only guess and dream about, and with the accompanying attitude we will never understand.

Preparation of footballers isn't the best at Everton and rehabilitation has let down many players and could be even said to have been abused by some.

Calvert-Lewin has the attitude of a top footballer and does a lot of training, particularly in the gym, but other areas have been neglected in resilience and technicality. The latter could be different coaches with different ideas.

Calvert-Lewin alone will not be Everton's saviour. He may make a contribution, but it will be an overall improvement in the team that is needed. Something that Dyche is making progress on, game after game.

As for his fashion sense, I remember going into the Camden Palace in London in the New Wave '80s and thinking what good fun it all was, though I had my blue shirt, brown shoes, Farah trousers and one of the lad's jumpers on. I just think Calvert-Lewin has a similar interest and it doesn't reflect on his character.

George McKane
178 Posted 11/03/2023 at 08:46:40
Derek, Danny and other TW friends - thank you for your comments regarding The Dark House (TDH).

Without any dramatics, today is most probably my last game at TDH and Goodison. I have been quite ill for a few weeks and, due to intense pressures of Yellow House work and a few other factors, I will be moving to Italy permanently by the end of March.

I will Celebrate Vincent Van Gogh's Birthday with Yellow House on 30 March and leave the next day for Belle Italia (Puglia). I can always be contacted via www.italianinspirations.it, and I will follow TW as normal.

Let's hope for a good - or any win - today.

God Bless Father Winder and Cardinal Godfrey – give my regards to Scottie Road and St Ollie's and Anne McKane and Ma Joad.
Up The Blues.

Dave Abrahams
179 Posted 11/03/2023 at 09:18:34
George (178),

So sorry to hear you are leaving Liverpool, The Dark House, Everton and Goodison Park.

I only met you a couple of times; you left me with a very good impression of an open-hearted, genuine man not afraid to say what he had to say – talked but never boasted about his excellent contribution to the lives of young men he was trying to rehabilitate into society through his work at Yellow House.

I hope you enjoy the rest of your time inNew Brighton and Liverpool and have a good time in Italy, best of luck and I hope your health improves enough for you to spend many years in your new home.

Thanks for your contributions to ToffeeWeb and very best wishes to you and your wife,

Anthony Murphy
180 Posted 11/03/2023 at 09:23:41
Sorry to hear of your illness, George – I hope life treats you well in Italy.

You probably won't remember but I did some work with Yellow House – sending students for work experience and inviting you and the team into schools to talk to students about coping with mental health problems.

Anyway, all the very best – a true one-off.

James Hughes
181 Posted 11/03/2023 at 09:32:27
George, wishing you well, many thanks for all the great posts.

Vita lunga e felice!

Danny O’Neill
182 Posted 11/03/2023 at 09:54:50
On my way, having departed Euston. A few Brentford supporters, but not like travelling up with the likes of West Ham or Chelsea. Maybe I'm a bit early.

George, I'll call in to see you.

Derek likewise, then I've got to get to the Brick and Winslow to catch up with a few others.

Busy day notwithstanding the important match.

And then my rituals of the Goodison Supper Bar and the Arkles.

I should squeeze it all in and I'm not leaving it to the last train today.

Let's go and do this, Everton.

Christy Ring
183 Posted 11/03/2023 at 10:00:58
Jonathan #174,

If Calvert-Lewin is League One standard, what does that make Maupay and Simms, who can't fill his boots??? He's definitely not a distraction; a fit Calvert-Lewin is a huge addition for survival this season.

George #174,

Sorry to hear of your illness, and hope you relax and enjoy your time in Italy.

Michael Lynch
184 Posted 11/03/2023 at 10:25:58
All the best George. I’ve looked out for your posts on here which are always entertaining, thought provoking and amusing. I’m aware of the work you’ve done; your contribution to this city has been outstanding and, I’m sure, life changing for many.

A great Evertonian and human being - where’s the knighthood!

Eddie Dunn
185 Posted 11/03/2023 at 10:30:04
Firstly, George, I have missed your posts of late and am very sorry to hear of your illness. I hope the warmer climes of Italy aid your recovery.
As for today's game, we are back in the hideous position of needing three points and some sort of turning point.
Brentford are in good form, unbeaten in 12 games and a well organised outfit with a superb striker and a coach who makes decisive tactical changes and doesn't leave them till the last minute.
However, we looked up for the fight last weekend and we are capable of springing a surprise today. I hope to see Domenic on the bench and plenty of blood and thunder on the pitch.
Peter Mills
186 Posted 11/03/2023 at 10:55:30
George, every posso vibe directed towards the pitch while the game is being played today, then towards your new life.
Neil Copeland
187 Posted 11/03/2023 at 10:56:54
George, I have only ever met you once very briefly outside the Oak. I hope the Italian climate helps with a very speedy recovery and you are feeling better soon. Who knows, maybe a return one in the not to distant future to catch up and see us at BMD. All the best George.
Alan J Thompson
188 Posted 11/03/2023 at 11:34:50
Brian(#84)&Dave(#90); I'm sorry if I got the wrong one but I'm fairly sure it was the younger Fashnau who hung himself after coming out over his sexuality. Should we really care and pass opinion on the lifestyle of somebody we really don't know and just happens to be in the public eye because he plays football for a living?
Bill Griffiths
189 Posted 11/03/2023 at 11:41:11
Sorry to hear you are leaving, all the best for the future.
Danny O’Neill
190 Posted 11/03/2023 at 11:49:49
That's the train over the Runcorn Bridge and Mersey.

Finch Farm to the right Speke to the left.

I'm going in. See you there and talk later.

Brian Williams
191 Posted 11/03/2023 at 11:51:02
Alan, thanks for the clarification. I understand now the point you were making, and fully agree, the lad has a life and a lifestyle he chooses and none of us have the right to dictate how that should go.
Barry Thompson
192 Posted 11/03/2023 at 11:53:41
Come on Everton 3 vital points today please. Do it for the fans, the club, yourselves as a team but most of all do it for George. The end of an era.

Best of luck in Italy George and enjoy today

Dave Abrahams
193 Posted 11/03/2023 at 11:59:09
Alan. (188)) Thanks for the clarification as Brian (191) points out, yes it was Justin, brother of John, and sometimes you see the consequences of peoples reactions to other peoples lifestyle, judge how you would like to be judged!! Oh and I also agree with the point you were making.
Stephen Vincent
194 Posted 11/03/2023 at 12:00:22
Best wishes George, give my regards to Lecce, a cracking little city. Right up your street I would imagine.
Michael McFarlane
195 Posted 11/03/2023 at 12:23:20
Late to the party but I couldn't give a toss what DCL likes to wear. I'll be singing his name (again) if he bangs in the goals that keep us up this year... I'd be surprised at any blue that wouldn't

And, for the record, that 'handbag' was actually a bag for his shinpads which these days are the size of austerity-hit custard creams!!

The Toffees for the win today... DCL to come on in the last 20 and score the winner... COYB!

Tony Everan
196 Posted 11/03/2023 at 12:55:12
Best wishes George, hope the move goes well and the Italian air and climate improves your health. I bet you’ll miss the view of the river and sky from your writing room as much as the footy! Here’s to a 4-0 win to send you off.
Pete Hughes
197 Posted 11/03/2023 at 13:01:17
Bournemouth one up!ffs
Jerome Shields
198 Posted 11/03/2023 at 13:21:55

Good Luck and but of heat will do harm.

Jonathan Tasker
199 Posted 11/03/2023 at 13:28:12
Christy 183. We aren’t going to agree on Dcl. Mind you, at the present rate, he can stay at Everton and play in league one from august 2024.
Losing today would be disastrous but I don’t think a draw would be awful. I see Everton finishing on 35 points and staying up. I have three further wins from future games but not today
Paul Tran
200 Posted 11/03/2023 at 13:29:50
All the best for your move, George. Hope your bet comes in today

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