Crystal Palace vs Everton

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Dominic Calvert-Lewin is in line to make his long-awaited return from injury this weekend

Everton make their final trip of the season to the Capital on Saturday where they will face Crystal Palace in another hugely significant match in terms of the Blues' survival hopes.

Sean Dyche's men come into the weekend hovering above the relegation on goal difference alone and in increasingly urgent need of improving a woeful away record that has seen them win just once away from home all season.

The visit to Selhurst Park looks a lot more daunting than it would have done three games ago, when Palace were in free-fall, struggling to register shots on target let alone score goals and win games under Patrick Vieira. Now, under Roy Hodgson, the South Londoners have won three on the bounce and are effectively safe with seven matches to go.

Everton have been boosted, though, by the fact that Dominic Calvert-Lewin is set to make his first appearance in 2½ months. The striker, who hasn't featured since Dyche's first match in charge at Goodison Park on 3 February because of a hamstring injury, has successfully come through two weeks of training and played an hour of a behind-closed-doors match against Chester on Tuesday.

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Calvert-Lewin posted a tease to Instagram afterwards expressing his excitement for this weekend's clash at Selhurst Park and Dyche admitted in his press conference at Finch Farm on Thursday that the 26-year-old is "in the thinking" of the team that will line up against the Eagles.

Whether the manager opts to start him after such a long lay-off remains to be seen but Everton's need for points is becoming acute and the team needs all the firepower it can get following a run of four games without a win.

Meanwhile, the manager has received a boost in that Amadou Onana is back in training and his groin problem will be assessed before the line-up is finalised but Seamus Coleman and Ruben Vinagre remain out through injury.

Andros Townsend remains sidelined as he tries to recover from an anterior cruciate ligament tear sustained at Selhurst Park last year in the FA Cup.

Whether Calvert-Lewin starts or not, Dyche has decisions to make in terms of formation and personnel. His  4-4-2 formation against Fulham backfired and it's unlikely that trying to go toe-to-toe with Palace from the off would be the wisest choice either.

Rather, getting back to a more solid, heart-to-beat posture would serve Everton better in trying to re-find some stability under the new boss.

Though his most memorable evening as Everton boss came against Palace last May, Frank Lampard lost both of his away games against the Eagles heavily but, prior to that, this was a happy hunting ground for the Toffees who had an eight-season unbeaten run in this fixture.

Dyche constantly speaks of fostering the right mentality in his side and he will need to have channelled all of his ability to inspire his charges for what are effectively seven cup finals between now and the end of the season. 

Kick-off: 3pm, Saturday 22 April 2023
Referee: John Brooks
VAR: Darren England
Last time: Crystal Palace 3 - 1 Everton

Predicted Line-up: Pickford, Godfrey, Keane, Tarkowski, Mykolenko, Gueye, Onana, Iwobi, Garner, McNeil, Calvert-Lewin

 

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Kevin O'Regan
1 Posted 20/04/2023 at 16:22:57
Finally.. no time like now to launch the rocket... then again - losing to National League North outfit Chester on Tuesday without scoring doesn't inspire confidence. Will we ever recover from this love of EFC? No pressure Dom..
Steve Shave
2 Posted 20/04/2023 at 16:56:16
And once again beautifully set up by TW for another thread of Dom bashing. A favourite pastime of many and a chance to project their frustrations with all things football at a person they really know nothing about, his story, the way his brain works or his struggles.

Just in time and just the tonic for the confidence boost he desperately needs on his return. Fab. Good luck Dom, nod one in and silence the haters.

Peter Shorthouse
3 Posted 20/04/2023 at 16:56:59
With DCL and Amadou back we have a fighting chance!
I'm after 2 tickets if anyone has spares.
Tel: 07786392101
Jay Harris
4 Posted 20/04/2023 at 16:59:41
A repeat of last years contribution against Palace at GP will do for me.

Good luck Dom and the lads. This is what we've been missing all season and will hopefully take the weight off some of the other players in the team.

Duncan McDine
6 Posted 20/04/2023 at 17:03:14
Would love him to be our Kevin Campbell this season. We’ve missed him in a huge way over the past 2 seasons. Not his fault that we didn’t ever replace Lukaku, or even replace DCL when it became clear that he was prone to injury. COYB and COYDCL.
David Bromwell
7 Posted 20/04/2023 at 17:04:54
Got to give it a go tomorrow, don't expect Calvert Lewin to play all the game but at least let us give Place something to think about from the start. Important that we don't go a goal down, hoping that Onana is fit and plays as midfield looked very weak last week. Pointless speculating on the rest, just hoping the Manager can install some confidence and come up with a winning game plan as his tactics have slipped a little recently.
Dale Self
8 Posted 20/04/2023 at 17:09:14
Steve 2, can we also have a few of those who were pushing the ‘early leave/ injury/ ‘we lost to Chester’ stories come on here and clean up the mess they left on other threads?

Seems like the appropriate gesture at this point otherwise I’m inclined to get behind that hater comment I took a card for that last year but would risk another if it gets ridiculous.

David West
9 Posted 20/04/2023 at 17:21:42
Let's just hope the lad doesn't read toffeeWeb. He could be the difference between staying up or not. Some will just write him off but he came good for us last season playing through injuries that we now know have never been fully dealt with.
To be honest even DCL at 30% fitness I'd take over Maupay.
Some have very short memories.
Onana was missed last week dispite some saying he's missing every week, when he wasn't there you could notice the difference.
This is big if we get 3 points.
Come on Everton, for just once don't have us on tenterhooks, just a nice easy 3-0 will do !! ( rolls his eyes )
Geoff Lambert
10 Posted 20/04/2023 at 17:26:20
Yippee do, so excited are goal machine is back. Start Simms and bring the Championship class act on for the last 20 minutes. Palace must be quaking in their boots.
Dennis Stevens
11 Posted 20/04/2023 at 17:40:32
Start him and then sub Simms in at half-time after Calvert-Lewin has got his hat-trick!
Lee Courtliff
12 Posted 20/04/2023 at 17:46:03
Surely he must start on the bench after so long out, madness to do otherwise. I'm happy with Simms up front with a 5-man midfield.

Calvert-Lewin to make a late entrance and score a scrappy goal in a God-awful 1-0 win for the Blues.

I'd definitely take that.

Eddie Dunn
13 Posted 20/04/2023 at 17:59:25
I predict that our manager will show his conservatism and bloody-mindedness and start with Maupay up on his own and Dom will get the final half hour as we chase the game.
Will Mabon
14 Posted 20/04/2023 at 18:09:22
Steve,

I rather think the club has set Calvert-Lewin as on the pedestal of the only hope by leaving him as essentially the only real forward we have, for all this time.

We don't know the full extent of his problems but whatever they are and if there is to be a complete and final recovery, being cited as potentially the only answer for avoiding relegation is maybe not the best atmosphere for his return.

This said, free as we supposedly are to express ourselves (for now), some things will have an inevitable result in the real world and there's no skirting that issue.

It shouldn't be this way at a top club. Nor should it be that a main fan site can't discuss it, wherever that goes. Let's hope for the best outcome all round.

Kim Vivian
15 Posted 20/04/2023 at 18:12:25
David (9) - If Dom was an amputee, I'd take him over Maupay.
Neil Lawson
16 Posted 20/04/2023 at 18:18:10
Better thread in which to ask this question. If PNE do not make the playoffs at Championship season end, is Tom Cannon then eligible to play any outstanding games that Everton have?

I don't imagine Dyche would draft him straight in but, if Calvert-Lewin gets crocked again, it might be an option. At least he knows where the net is.

Colin Glassar
17 Posted 20/04/2023 at 18:25:12
As our American cousins like to say, thoughts and prayers.
David West
18 Posted 20/04/2023 at 18:43:13
I'd start Calvert-Lewin – hard to pick up the pace of a game as a sub… even harder if we are chasing a game.

I think his actual fitness should be okay. It's just match sharpness and if you compare that to the blunt butter knife that is Maupay, I'd take a less than match sharp DCL

Only reason I'd bench Calvert-Lewin is if I was thinking that, if Simms starts and it doesn't go to plan. Throw Calvert-Lewin and Simms up top!

The pressure on Calvert-Lewin isn't really fair on the lad. We should have options… I'm sure he will try his best – feels like we have a glimmer of hope or is it a mirage???

Imagine an opposition defence having to worry about the threat of a proven goalscorer!!! I mean talk about us having our expectations lowered!! But this is where we are at!

Dale Self
19 Posted 20/04/2023 at 18:51:50
Very thoughtful of you, Colin. It's an embarrassment really but it is important to feel the pain.
Dale Self
20 Posted 20/04/2023 at 19:14:11
Oh, maybe that was for Calvert-Lewin. If so, sorry for unnecessary commentary on our dysfunctional society.
Derek Taylor
21 Posted 20/04/2023 at 19:19:52
Oh, how we've fallen! We've reached the bottom of the barrel in turning to a manager everyone equates with relegation and not much else.

Of course I hope we'll escape the drop but I can't see it when our manager turns out a team and tactics like he did last week!

Kieran Kinsella
22 Posted 20/04/2023 at 19:37:06
Nobody who played against Chester should play. Training match or not, a 1-0 defeat against amateurs is a complete embarrassment. You'd think these muppets would be knocking goals in for fun against players at the level but they are completely inept and lower their standard to below that of whoever they're playing.

Chester City losing players out!!

Danny Baily
23 Posted 20/04/2023 at 19:51:08
Calvert-Lewin in from the start for me.

In all likelihood, we're not staying up from here.

Mark Ryan
24 Posted 20/04/2023 at 19:52:59
Knowing our luck, he'll start with Maupay and bring Dom on with 15 minutes left. No pressure, Dom.

He should start Simms, bring Dom on second half. Leave Maupay at Heston Services. Not the best striker meets not the best services…

Ray Smith
25 Posted 20/04/2023 at 19:57:29
I'm hot and cold about Calvert-Lewin, basically a year out!

Last season, he came up trumps against Palace. What has he done since? If he comes up trumps, great… but where does his commitment lie?

He's a prima donna who we cannot afford. Sorry, Dom, man up!!!

Mark Murphy
26 Posted 20/04/2023 at 19:58:42
Wow – for a few minutes I was excited that we had a recognised striker back for an important game.

Then I came on here…..

Dave Abrahams
27 Posted 20/04/2023 at 20:02:59
Steve (2), I wish I had wrote that post, well done, mate.

Come on, Dominic, do as the man says and nod us to victory, best of luck lad.

Christopher Timmins
28 Posted 20/04/2023 at 20:06:38
Great to have him back, hopefully he can make an immediate impact!
Colin Glassar
29 Posted 20/04/2023 at 20:22:50
Dale, it was for Calvert-Lewin but I understand where you are coming from.
Andy Crooks
30 Posted 20/04/2023 at 21:12:34
We need a lift, this is it. If Calvert-Lewin and the others can get back to Dyche's first game, we will win. Nothing ever happens as planned. There will be twists and turns and we will be fine. Saturday was rock bottom, onward and upward. Cry tough.
Tony Everan
31 Posted 20/04/2023 at 21:15:24
This is the match where we have to turn back the clock a few weeks and become the hard-to-beat Everton that was forming under Dyche. It's gone off the rails since the Doucouré incident and injuries sparked formation changes.

If Calvert-Lewin is fit enough, I hope we will see him back in the 4-5-1 system, probably for 60-70 or so minutes. If we can keep it tight, there will definitely be opportunities to poach one or two, including from a corner or a whipped-in Garner free kick.

There have been a few straight-forward headed chances that have gone begging in recent matches that Dominic would have buried. If he starts, I'll be much more optimistic of us getting a win or at least something out of the game.

John Keating
32 Posted 20/04/2023 at 21:18:04
Just make him stay in the box and get McNeil's crosses in.
Neil Copeland
33 Posted 20/04/2023 at 21:25:14
We always look a much more balanced team with Calvert-Lewin. Maybe his presence gives the rest of the team a little confidence?

Anyway, looking forward to a much-needed win.

UTFT!

Paul Kernot
34 Posted 20/04/2023 at 21:33:33
Kevin #1. Elon Musk launched a rocket yesterday. Let's hope we don't get the same result with DCL's re launch.
Andrew Keatley
35 Posted 20/04/2023 at 21:45:24
Neil (33) - It’s about giving the midfielders and wide players the confidence and belief to get up the pitch. The long-ball up to DCL can be a very effective out-ball as long as he has players running off him. Whoever else we have playing up front - Maupay, Simms or Gray - just do not have the same ability to win that first aerial ball, so the knock-on effect on the entire team is that a) the out-ball is rarely played and b) the wide players and midfielders do not get up the pitch in the same way.
Neil Copeland
36 Posted 20/04/2023 at 21:53:42
Andrew #35, agreed.
Jerome Shields
37 Posted 20/04/2023 at 22:32:56
A lot of pressure on Calvert Lewin bringing him into a side that performed so poorly in the last match.Probably will be introduced as a Sub.Simms is a better starting option than Maupay.
Si Cooper
38 Posted 20/04/2023 at 22:41:11
Cometh the hour, cometh the man.
Bob Parrington
39 Posted 21/04/2023 at 03:35:37
I'd like to see either Dom or Simms start and see how Dom is after 60 minutes to assess whether or not he should be subbed. If Dom needs to be subbed, have Coady as a sub, bring him on after 60 mins and move Keane up-front with Simms.

UTFT 3-1 win for the blues!

Eric Myles
40 Posted 21/04/2023 at 04:20:46
Kieran #22, maybe we should have signed the guy that scored the goal!
Kieran Kinsella
41 Posted 21/04/2023 at 04:34:29
Eric

Maybe. I just find it pathetic that we’ve players earning 50 to 120k a week having a kick around with semi pros. You’d like to think Davies, Mina etc would be busting their asses trying to get back into the starting line up. But even if they don’t give a crap about the team paying their wages, in about 10 weeks their contracts end and they will be unemployed, Given the difference in level you’d expect a result like when we beat that semi pro Austrian team 22-0. But somehow these gutless, shameless losers managed to lose 1-0

to a bunch of no-hopers who probably showed up expecting to be humiliated but now they can tell their Grandkids of the time they beat WC star Mina, Everton legend with hundreds of appearances Davies, England striker DCL, 30 million pound Doucoure etc. I would honestly terminate all their contracts early. Absolute disgrace.

Steve Carter
42 Posted 21/04/2023 at 04:53:57
Yes, Kieran and others who've made mention of it, the result v Chester is perplexing. Were they instructed not to pull the trigger? Work on formations and structure? Not push themselves beyond a mild sweat - and avoid injury at all costs? It would be absurd to suggest that Sean instructed them to lose so's to make Palace overconfident. Was anyone at the game?
Andy Kay
43 Posted 21/04/2023 at 04:59:49
Here's a mad theory we haven't scored goals all season especially from midfield we've got our top striker back how about TWO STRIKERS starting and drop someone else who's under performed. I know, mental isn't it. Sharp and Gray, Coke and Yorke, Shearer and Sutton we'd be mad to try something like this against the mighty Crystal Palace, I mean it's not like our Premier League survival is at stake or anything! We haven't produced goals for two seasons with midfielders / wingers/ no 10s all failing find the net. Radical I know but TWO STRIKERS might actually score a goal for once.
Danny O’Neill
44 Posted 21/04/2023 at 06:10:25
Repeat warning number one.

I think a few a getting a bit excited about what was literally a kick about in the Park.

Maybe the players were under instruction to treat it as a run out and light training session as we keeping some ticking over (Doucoure) and bring others back to fitness (Onana)?

What do we want? Thump Chester at Finch Farm and risk further injuries going toe-to-toe against a team probably treating it as a near Cup Final? Or just let them go through their paces?

The result is / was meaningless.

Repeat warning number two.

@Andy Kay. Do not, do not, play 4-4-2. The last two matches I have watched, Everton were left wide open and be carved apart in midfield. The examples you give are a bygone age. That's quite sad to say as it is only 20 years or so ago.

But in my humble view, 4-4-2 has had it's day for now. Especially with the players we have.

Most teams play with a single striker supported by attacking midfield runners. The number 10 as we now call it. Complimented by wide attackers such a Richarlison, for example. De Bruyne, Grealish. We could go on.

Liverpool were a freak, playing their three Duracell bunny powered forwards, but that was more of a 4-3-3.

Do not play 4-4-2. Palace will stretch the pitch and expose the holes left in the middle, just like Manchester United and Fulham in recent weeks. Two strikers are pointless if we can't get the ball to them.

All about opinions obviously.

Mark Murphy
45 Posted 21/04/2023 at 06:25:06
I’d like to see 2 up front but in a 3-5-2 line up. As some people have pointed out, quite rightly, that depends on who are the back three, but as Danny says, 4-4-2 leaves us too exposed in midfield. I hope the last two games have made that clear to Dyche.
David Nicholls
46 Posted 21/04/2023 at 06:38:15
Fingers crossed that he can get his career back on track and he can put his injury troubles behind him.
He wasn’t always injury-prone but since that abductor issue at the start of last season he’s never been right.
We seem to have been cautious about bringing him back this time around so hopefully that does the trick…
James Hughes
47 Posted 21/04/2023 at 06:57:28
Danny #44, I agree with both of those points.

My initial reaction was FFS we can't even beat Chester, that lasted about 10 seconds and then it was a training game dawned on me.

Also keep Garner in the team so Gana, Garner and Doucure wiyth Gray & McNeil on the wings supporting DCL

COYB

Jim Bennings
48 Posted 21/04/2023 at 06:59:07
You have to start him, forget the subs bench just start him.

If he plays 60 minutes then fine take him off afterwards but start him.

Why wait until the game is lost?

Mal van Schaick
49 Posted 21/04/2023 at 07:05:48
I wouldn’t put all my eggs in one basket with DCL, but let’s see how it goes.

I agree with #Mark 45. Dyche needs to understand the importance of tactics against our opponents. For me, he got it wrong against Fulham by playing an open game, when we needed a point/points.

I would play 3-5-2 against Palace, and try and play on the counter attack. Try and get something from the game. I wouldn’t start with Maupay.

Danny O’Neill
50 Posted 21/04/2023 at 07:16:12
Calvert-Lewin can benefit from McNeil's delivery.

Mark, Mal, 3-5-2 can work with what we have. Genuine question. Do we stick Mykolenko in a back three if we go with that?

Mykolenko, Tarkowski and Mina. Although make sure Keane is ready to go and continuously warming up before big Yerry snaps a toe nail or boot lace after 20 minutes.

If not 3-5-2, go 4-2-3-1. If available and selected, I push Onana forward. But then who plays alongside Gueye? Probably Garner or Davies?

Sam Hoare
51 Posted 21/04/2023 at 07:36:19
Better late than never but lord knows how long it will take him to reach proper match sharpness after so long out. 3 games? 4 or 5 or 6?!

2 weeks ago I was feeling fairly confident we’d stay up. I’d been impressed by Dyche. But he got things pretty wrong against United and Fulham I’d say and now our PL future hangs by a thread.

Would we take a point this weekend? I think so. Though will need to win at some point!

Mark Murphy
52 Posted 21/04/2023 at 08:24:02
Danny - re the back three, it was correctly pointed out that our “usual” centre backs are too immobile for this lineup so it would need a leap of faith with our current squad BUT…
Take out the form, and maybe Godfrey (I’m a fan btw) and Holgate would be best suited either side of Tarks? I’m a bit disappointed that Coady has lost his way lately - I thought he’d be our future captain. Not sure he’s a back 3 contender though? In the near future hopefully Branthwaite will be key in this area.
Centre mid tomorrow should be Garner & Gana with O’Nana.
I agree McNeil on the left, maybe Patterson on the right as Seamus is out? DCL to start. If he’s not right we just go back to Simms or Gray but we’ve got to try to get DCL back involved and pronto!
UTFT
Paul Tran
53 Posted 21/04/2023 at 08:29:18
Just like the Arsenal game. Start him, give our attack a focal point and when the inevitable fatigue sets in, take him off for Simms.

He's going to be rusty, but the thing about DCL is that when he's fit and able to play, he always gives his best. He's seen off a few more expensive 'first choice' strikers in his time.

Great to have a striker who actually worries the opposition back.

Stu Darlington
54 Posted 21/04/2023 at 09:07:34
The game is never about one player.Get the selection right,the formation right and the attitude right and we’ve got a chance.
Above all we have got to try and control the midfield.This is always where the game is won or lost.An effective midfield can take the pressure off the defence and create chances for the attacking players.
Going 2 in midfield has been our downfall all too often this season.I agree with Danny we’ve got to get away from 4-4-2 at all costs.
It is at the same time great to see injured and suspended players coming back into contention.It strengthens the squad and gives the manager more options.
A word of caution however,DCL is not the Messiah he’s just a player returning from a long spell of niggling injuries!!!
Laurie Hartley
55 Posted 21/04/2023 at 09:54:02
Well my prediction on the post Fulham thread that “we won’t see him in the match day squad anytime soon” was slightly incorrect😂.

Got to be 4 5 1
Holgate, Keane, Tarkowski, Mykolenko
Davies, Gueye, Onana, Garner, McNeill
DCL

Andrew Ellams
56 Posted 21/04/2023 at 10:01:57
Surely he can't be ready to go straight into the starting XI, especially with his record for breaking down so soon after coming back.
Brian Harrison
57 Posted 21/04/2023 at 10:31:01
I think with 7 games left it had reached a point for both Sean Dyche and DCL that it was now or never for him to be included in the first team. I think a big plus is that DCL looks happy to get going and great credit must go to Sean Dyche as I am sure the temptation was to throw him in a couple of weeks back. But as he said his mission and those of his medical team was to get DCL as fit as he could possibly be, and it seems thats what they have done.

Just going back to DCLs last outing against Arsenal was one of his most impressive games, he caused their defence problems. When the ball was played to him it stuck which gave the midfield and other forwards the belief that they could make runs past DCL and he wouldnt lose the ball. I am not necessarily thinking DCL is going to bang in a couple of goals but I do think the confidence he will give to his team mates will be a huge boost.I think its worth remembering for most of this season we have hade wide players playing the main striking role, or a player learning his trade in Simms or Maupay who is completely unsuited to playing the lone striker role. Just a pity that Doucoure has still to miss this game as I think his energy will also make a difference.

But the fact is that of the 17 teams that were in the Premier league last season and this season we have the worst away win record of all the teams, and I think if we are to stay up that has to change and quickly.

Martin Reppion
58 Posted 21/04/2023 at 10:33:31
I've never seen the point of putting a returning player on the bench.
If the starting player gets injured early, the returnee has to play nearly a full game anyway.
It is better to start them, and then see how long they last.

As to Simms up front? Alone, he doesn't give us enough. He is a good finisher who needs to play alongside a ball winner (Heath off Sharp).
When he has played the lone striker role as last week, he wins nothing and the ball just comes straight back at us. He couldn't trap a bag of cement and doesn't win headers. To get the best out of him he has to play alongside DCL in a 3-5-2.
For this reason I would start with Dom up front alone. And use Simms off the bench if we need to change.

Brent Stephens
59 Posted 21/04/2023 at 10:45:13
Martin #58 - with you totally on starting a returning player. If you're sure he's fully fit, it makes sense. If you're not sure if he's fully fit, as you say, see how long they last and replace him if necessary.
Derek Knox
60 Posted 21/04/2023 at 10:57:11
If Dominic does start and doesn't score, it will be a case of " he's just come back from injury, needs time to settle in (provided he doesn't get injured again) he should be okay after the Bournemouth Match" ! :-)
Ed Prytherch
61 Posted 21/04/2023 at 11:24:22
I think DOM should start as he will be properly warmed up. I don't see the point in letting his body cool down by sitting on the bench for an hour then doing a light warmup before bringing him on.
Christopher Timmins
62 Posted 21/04/2023 at 11:29:14
After an almost two year absence it will take him a number of games to get his match sharpness back, however, given our alternative options, we may have to live with that scenario and hope that he improves from game to game.

His big problem will be the lack of supply from the rest of the side.

Danny O’Neill
63 Posted 21/04/2023 at 11:39:53
Whoever turns out tomorrow, just turn up.

For the travelling blue army, be bitter, be loud and be proud.

Prince George.

💙

Andy Kay
64 Posted 21/04/2023 at 11:43:06
Danny O'Neill, couldn't care less about the formation behind a front two, Xmas tree, 3-5-2, 4-4-2, 5-3-2, pick whichever one works with current players in form, as long as it's two up front and not a lone striker, false 9, defensive nick a point shite. All of the current 11 can't say they don't deserve to be axed after the last 2 games, so Dyche needs to make it work with 2 strikers and get goals. Anything else and we're screwed.
Eric Haworth
65 Posted 21/04/2023 at 12:24:16
I’ve always aired on the side of “if it ain’t broke don’t fix it” & his pragmatism is one of reasons why Sean Dyche got my vote to replace Frank Lampard, and the early signs seemed to support that, with a low-block 3-5-1 designed to “dig-out” point/s.

However, the inexplicable timing of his change of tactics against Utd was bewildering & to repeat what was quite clearly an unmitigated disaster against Fulham, was nothing short of insane, and to cite your reasoning for disrupting the whole teams way of playing, to accommodate the absence of one player, (Doucoure) is simply bizarre. In our current predicament, if something is working, then keep things simple with minimal change, player for player.

Also, to get the maximum benefit from DCL’s potential return, I subscribe to both Tony#31 & Paul#53 philosophy. In fact I think I’d take it one step further, and return to both tactics & personnel on display on DCL’s last outing. Likewise, give him at least the first hour so we can hopefully get a strong foothold in the game, and not be bringing him off the bench to try & retrieve a game already lost. Because as someone else has quite rightly pointed-out he’s not a messiah. But he is one of the best at leading the line, and he’s always put himself on the line, even when not fully fit, just like in the hour he put in against Arsenal, when their 2 CB’s couldn’t handle him.

So let’s revert to tried & tested and give both DCL & ourselves a real chance COYB💙

Eddie Dunn
66 Posted 21/04/2023 at 12:30:07
Danny the formation of 4-4-2 is one thing but players have always had instructions to drop off, drop deep etc. I don't think 4-4-2 is obsolete but we simply had players who couldn't operate properly.
It seems to me that we have the same problem as last season.
The central defence are too deep and don't get up to support midfield and so midfield don't get forward to support the attack.
When we try the high line we are caught out for lack of pace.
We can only soak up pressure sitting deep if we have a decent out-ball. Maupay and Simms are not good enough (at present in Simms's case). With Dom and Gray on the counter we have a chance.
Andrew Stewart
67 Posted 21/04/2023 at 12:40:57
I’m down in London this weekend for the marathon (watching, not running thank god) so I’m looking to buy a ticket for the palace game. If anyone has any spares going please let me know (andystewart18@hotmail.com). Many thanks
Kevin Molloy
68 Posted 21/04/2023 at 12:59:48
at the moment Palace would give any team in the league a run for their money. In typical Everton fashion we are playing them at the worst possible time. And we are in a real rut. Not saying it can't change on Saturday footy being as unpredictable as it is, but if present form plays out it's 3-0 all day. As Clint Eastwood so rightly said, a man's got to know his limits.
Joe McMahon
69 Posted 21/04/2023 at 13:03:20
I'll have to try and keep up with the score at Turf Moor tomorrow, my sons a Burnley fan (my wife's from the area). If they win they are confirmed as Champions. I'll also see my brother in law, and he says he'll always be grateful to Dyche for establishing Burnley again, but his time at Burnley ran its course. The supporters got frustrated as he didn't change his ways of long punts to strikers from defence, and substitutions far to late.

I'm trying to stay open minded about Sean, but so far changes in most games have been far too late also for Everton. But last week Maupay against defenders as big as Stonehenge was maddening.l and costly.

John Raftery
70 Posted 21/04/2023 at 13:03:25
As far as this season is concerned it feels like it must be now or never for DCL to return. Play him for an hour in the hope he can make a difference. A top striker can mask a host of deficiencies elsewhere in the team. We had one in Lukaku. DCL is not in that class but he has shown he can lead the line effectively and offer a threat inside the box.
Bob Parrington
71 Posted 21/04/2023 at 13:41:21
To Danny and others going to the game at CP - thanks from those of us far away who cannot attend. Be loud, supportive, supporting and whatever for the cause. You are new of a kind. Wish I could be there with you true blues! I'll be watching on Optus from Aussie.
Raymond Fox
72 Posted 21/04/2023 at 13:57:53
We are a much better side with DCL in the side thats for sure, but the betting is 11/4 Everton with 11/5 the draw which looks about right. They are on a winning run now Hodgson is manager.

I cant say I can engender much optimism, I wish I could.
Hopefully Dominic will do his stuff and make a huge difference to our performance because we are running out of games.

Mick Conalty
73 Posted 21/04/2023 at 15:40:21
If only Super Frank Lampard
was still incharge after the behind close doors debacle against Chester.
He could of given us more wise words sutch as.
"We need to learn from this"
Chelsea played 5 lost 5.
Frank Tosser Lampard.
Marc Hints
74 Posted 21/04/2023 at 15:47:15
Anyone see the training video today or gallery?

No Onana or Calvert-Lewin.

Mark Ryan
75 Posted 21/04/2023 at 15:50:59
Frank needs to become a pundit. He talks a good game.

0 - 2 to the mighty Toffees tomorrow. Woy off his game tomorrow. The start of a big end-of-season Palace wobble tomorrow, Simms and Calvert-Lewin.

Danny O’Neill
76 Posted 21/04/2023 at 16:32:48
Agree with that, John Raftery. Stand up and be counted time, for Dominic.

Bob, I am fortunate, yes fortunate, to be able to attend tomorrow.

But I know there will many thousands following around the globe. Kicking every ball or cushion. We are all there regardless of where we are.

Neil Cremin
77 Posted 21/04/2023 at 16:51:16
I am lucky to be there tomorrow.

Unfortunately I'm in the Palace end courtesy of my daughter's best friend (a Palace season ticket holder). I won't know how to contain myself if we get a 95th minute winner…

Here's dreaming!

Martin Mason
78 Posted 21/04/2023 at 17:07:16
I'm also very privileged to be able to see the game tomorrow. If the turn around is going to happen it could well start tomorrow though, it has to really and why not?

We need to expect though that there may not be a turnaround but we mustn't think that yet. Our time will come still as we must have a key say when they finally cut out the rotten core of the club even if we are in the league below.

David West
79 Posted 21/04/2023 at 17:12:16
I think a 451 is most probable. Either simms or dcl with gray in behind. Hope onana gets back as Palace are a big physical team and I'd say he will be a big plus in there.
I don't think simms offers the pressing threat that Gray and Doucouré offer. He seems to jog after defences trying to play from the back.

I'd play
Patterson ( if no Coleman)
Tarks
Keane
Mykolenko
Onana
Gana
Garner
Iwobi
Gray
DcL

We don't really have options apart from simms for dcl I don't count maupay as an attacking option unless you play 2 up front which to be fair he has never had someone next to him to play off. But he's a last resort

Kieran Kinsella
80 Posted 21/04/2023 at 17:17:15
Marc

I watched it too. None of the losers who lost to Chester were involved so maybe it was at the same time? Hence why it was moved to Goodison? Or maybe after that Sean had to separate the regulars from those lot so they can’t suck out the life of the rest of the squad by being allowed to be near them.

Marc Hints
82 Posted 21/04/2023 at 17:51:14
Kieran

That's a good point, I'd forgotten about the Chester game

Christy Ring
85 Posted 21/04/2023 at 18:42:55
Delighted to see Calvert-Lewin back fit, we have no-one to replace him.

If he can play for the rest of the season, it'll be a huge plus for us.

Jay Harris
86 Posted 21/04/2023 at 19:05:18
I get the feeling that Sean Dyche has realised that we need wins rather than draws to stay up and was therefore more expansionist in his last 2 games but with Calvert-Lewin's return we can be more conservative and hope to nick one.

I agree with Danny that 4-5-1 would be the best option against a free-flowing Palace team that is now brimming with confidence and no-one plays the lone striker better than Dominic.

Let's play for a point and hope for a win.

Barry Hesketh
87 Posted 21/04/2023 at 19:14:39
I hope that Dyche hasn't changed the tactics in the last couple of matches because he's realised what a basket-case of a club we are and what a basket-case of people we have at board level.

I also don't like leading people at the club being tardy; Sean Dyche has been later and later for some of his recent press conferences. Yesterday, it looked as if he'd just eaten a plate of pie and gravy or something as he continually wiped his chops as he sat down to meet the press.

Hans Fyhrqvist
88 Posted 21/04/2023 at 19:55:34
After the very disappointing and poor Everton displays against Man Utd away and especially Fulham home, I think the Everton supporters won´t tolerate such performances anymore, and more importantly, the Everton players can´t afford any similar displays anymore if they really want to keep our club in the Premier League.

Tomorrow against Crystal Palace away Everton will hopefully at last have Calvert-Lewin back in our squad, at least on the bench, if not starting. We really need him as our main striker in our remaining matches. Would be very good also if Onana can feature in the match. As we all know we will still miss both Doucoure and Coleman. When all these four mentioned were not available in our home game against Fulham, we clearly saw how we nowadays lack strength in depth in our squad. And of course that´s the reason why we are in the relegation mire.

Still whoever will in the remaining matches wear the Royal Blue shirts, must give everything, not by receiving unnecessary or stupid yellow and red cards, but showing the utmost desire to fight fully committed to the end. This is all, and nothing less, the Everton supporters demand from our players.

Ernie Baywood
89 Posted 21/04/2023 at 21:10:10
I wouldn't be against starting him and telling him to ease into the game and not go chasing/pressing too much.

DCL playing at half pace is better than any other option we have up there.

I know we've had a lot of big games but this really feels like the big one. It's a team we can beat even if the league and location will make us underdogs.

A couple of our rivals have similarly winnable games.

Neil Cremin
90 Posted 21/04/2023 at 21:24:54
With Southampton winning at Arsenal’ we need a win tomorrow
Si Cooper
91 Posted 21/04/2023 at 22:36:58
Check the score again Neil.
It does show Southampton won’t go down without a fight in all their remaining fixtures and we should assume the same of all of those still in the relegation mix.
I’m seriously worried we will lose all our remaining fixtures without ever looking remotely competitive.
Si Cooper
92 Posted 21/04/2023 at 22:44:13
“I also don't like leading people at the club being tardy; Sean Dyche has been later and later for some of his recent press conferences. Yesterday, it looked as if he'd just eaten a plate of pie and gravy or something as he continually wiped his chops as he sat down to meet the press.”
Personally don’t give a fook about the media circus stuff. If the managers has had to grab a bite to eat on the go because he is spending every second he can drilling his players then I’m not going to get all prissy and hold that against him.
Since we don’t actually know what preceded the press conference, I’ll be giving Sean Dyche the benefit of the doubt on that one!
Neil Cremin
93 Posted 22/04/2023 at 03:31:02
Si
I was writing in the present tense but you are correct. From here on in its a dog fight and I’m not sure we have the stomach for one.
Please prove me wrong starting today
Jerome Shields
94 Posted 22/04/2023 at 07:13:30
Everton will play ok today.Please keep errors to a minimum.This is the first match in the cycle of three matches,I,e. two results and a loss.This is based on the training regime at Everton no matter who the Manager is.We will worry about the loss later.

So today we will appear to have a fit team.Hopefully Dyche will try to bolster Midfield and tighten up the defence, getting more responsibility going forward.He also has to find a threat in the Centre Forward position.Maupay is not a threat.It would be better if Simms started.

Good Luck Everton.

Hope Kenwright stays away he is nothing but a distraction.But I can't see him not accepting Parish's invitation.His desperation to attend may explain his desperate letter and the seizing on a wayward opportunity to deliver it.

Paul Birmingham
95 Posted 22/04/2023 at 07:26:45
This is the next game, Everton must believe and, focus on this game and nothing more.

Hopefully the team and formation chosen will be the strongest Team, available and like v Arsenal at home, look after the ball, and use it well.

If DCL, starts, then that is a very positive selection, and will provide a genuine target to aim at in the box.

To all travelling today have a great day, and let’s hope Everton get at least a point.

Also for Fulham to beat Leeds and the RS, to beat Forest. Leicester and Wolves, I reckon, Wolves will pinch a point.

UTFTs!

Bill Gienapp
96 Posted 22/04/2023 at 07:28:35
Palace are a bit daunting, coming off three straight wins and playing with a lot of confidence... but at the same time, all they did was beat Leicester, Leeds and Southampton - three of the very worst teams in the league. Yeah, okay - so we'd probably round out the Mount Rushmore (along with Forest), but it doesn't mean we're incapable of producing a victory.
Robert Tressell
97 Posted 22/04/2023 at 07:38:01
Is Doucoure not yet available?

Danny O’Neill
98 Posted 22/04/2023 at 07:51:10
I think it is Doucoure's last match under suspension Robert.

Best wishes blues. See you there or feel you in spirit.

I don't care who is playing. Just turn up like the sold out 2000 away section and those watching around the country and globe.

Perform and get a result.

Danny Baily
99 Posted 22/04/2023 at 07:55:24
A couple of wins and the whole scenario changes. Let's start today, DCL to start for me.
Colin Glassar
100 Posted 22/04/2023 at 07:56:27
We must get something out of this game. We cannot be cut adrift from the teams above us. It’s squeaky bum time from now till the end.
Anthony Murphy
101 Posted 22/04/2023 at 08:49:48
We need three points today - points here and there won’t keep us up. Teams around us will pull off shock wins - we can’t afford not to do the same.
Andrew Clare
102 Posted 22/04/2023 at 08:50:24
Palace know that a win today will guarantee their safety. Hodgson has had a terrific impact since his return.
This going to be a tough game.
With the right approach we can get something but 100% effort and concerntration will be essential.
Jerome Shields
103 Posted 22/04/2023 at 08:51:33
As for Dyche he really needs to pick his battles in this run in.It was possibly good that he got a shock at the Fulham game.The advantage of being away is it is a opportunity to sit deep, which suits our lack of pace Centre Backs, but they do need to take responsibility going forward. No one showing for Pickford is not good enough amongst the backs. Godfrey did not play well the last game and hid from recieving the ball . Garner was ok neat forward, but Onana is aleast attempting to stay in contention at the edge of the Everton penalty area when defending.

The Forwards have to maintain the high press, particularly in the first quarter of the second half.Everton's Achilles heel.They just can't have the situation were the opposition defensive line is able to push up in support of their midfield and Everton's midfield is overrun.

Aleast the Players will be better up for it, in comparison to the Fulham game.

Tony Everan
104 Posted 22/04/2023 at 09:03:50
Robert, Doucoure is back for the Newcastle game on Thursday night.

As well as the midfield being stronger for this match, the manager has to address the full back positions. Palace will have done their homework and will target these positions repeatedly. This battleground will shape the game one way or another.

Godfrey can’t play right back, since he has been at the club he has played ok at times at left back but got rudely exposed at the cavernous old Trafford against a decent player in Antony.

Still he is overall better at left back than right back where he looks all at sea. It’s not clear cut whether to put in Mykolenko ahead of him though, . It’s a 50/50 decision, I still just prefer Godfrey.

At right back then it’s Patterson or Holgate. Again not clear cut, the rash Holgate or the inexperienced, “not PL ready” according to Sean Dyche, Patterson? Again it’s a 50/50 decision and just, almost reluctantly, prefer Holgate at the moment.

Midfield Garner and Onana either side of Gana, with orders to support attacks. McNeill and Iwobi wider midfielders, hopefully DCL up top, if not Gray maybe just edges out Simms for the start.

There’s only one way we are going to stay up and that is by putting in seven almighty shifts, fighting for every ball, every blade of grass and never giving up.

COYBLUES!

Frank Sheppard
105 Posted 22/04/2023 at 09:37:54
Let’s hope we “throw the form book out of the window” and just win a football game.COYB.
Jim Wilson
106 Posted 22/04/2023 at 09:47:44
Dyche MUST pick a strong midfield and keep it tight.

He must stress to the players nothing silly while they must work harder than ever no matter the score.

He has to motivate and deal with the players pressure which can make a player freeze. Make no mistake these players are under immense pressure.

Maybe starting DCL is a good idea in a 451 and then replace him with Simms or Gray. Fingers crossed that DCL will find playing is a breeze after all his problems.

Once again we could do with a bit of luck, no mistakes, no sending offs, no bad decisions and please some inspired performances.

COYB!

James Marshall
107 Posted 22/04/2023 at 09:58:22
Our record v Palace at Selhurst Park in the PL: Played 22, Won 7, Drawn 8, Lost 7. Scored 21, Conceded 21.

Our record is close to bang on 50/50 and I'd take 50/50 today given how shite we are, especially away from home.

To stay up we need to win at least a couple of games, and pick up a couple of draws. I can see us getting 34 points absolute maximum come the end of the season, so other teams being equally, or more shit is going to be key in my view.

As an aside, if we do stay up, I hope we stay up in a game away from Goodison - I couldn't stand to see those 'celebrations' of mediocrity again. Let the away fans have a fun day out, and save the OTT embarrassment again.

Jim Lloyd
108 Posted 22/04/2023 at 10:30:40
As long as we stay up James! although I'll go for it anywhere as long as we make it!
Well, we've got a couple of players back today and, hopefully they'll make an improvement to last week's performance.
Although even last week we made at least three clear cut chances from good moves; and didn't put two of them away.

Mark Ryan
109 Posted 22/04/2023 at 10:36:26
I don't want to see M****Y on the team sheet
If we are M****Y free today we have a chance
Brian Harrison
110 Posted 22/04/2023 at 11:05:01
Our away form is horrendous and is the main reason why we are where we are, and I think were getting to the stage were a point away might not be enough. I think we are massively missing Doucouré in midfield but hopefully with DCL back in the squad that should make a difference. Hopefully with Palace being practically assured of Premier league football next season lets hope they arent as fired up as Hodgson seems to have had them since his return. No Zaha but for me their best player is Ebrechie Eze, I am amazed this kid hasnt made an England squad before now, I think he is a more dangerous player than Mason Mount. So we will have to keep a close eye on him today, but fingers crossed we record our first away win in a long time.
Alan McGuffog
111 Posted 22/04/2023 at 11:21:21
Superb 5 -1 away win at Leicester. Sadly 46 years ago. Filbert St one really weird little ground.
Danny O’Neill
112 Posted 22/04/2023 at 11:22:01
On my way in. See some of you there.

Others will be with us, wherever they are.

Rob Hooton
113 Posted 22/04/2023 at 11:22:17
Brian, our away form is nothing short of an embarrassment and shows how mentally weak our squad of players are. We have the best away support and the worst away performances from our motley crew of league one footballers!

God I hope that changes today, really hope Dominic is fit enough to start and cause the Palace defence some issues. They will attack plenty down the flanks and Iwobi & McNeill will likely be busy helping whoever starts in the fullback positions.

I’d bite your hand off for a scrappy 1-0 win, with a comedy own goal giving us the points. Would be much happier if we could score more than one goal ourselves, something we’ve struggled to achieve all season.

COYB, give your all!!

Kunal Desai
114 Posted 22/04/2023 at 11:31:09
Draws are no good at this stages we need to start producing wins and it's a pivotal week for us I feel.

What we don't want is a worse case scenario today Leicester and Leeds win and we lose.

Mark Andrews
115 Posted 22/04/2023 at 11:37:26
Standing by for the Deepdale Derby next season.
Raymond Fox
116 Posted 22/04/2023 at 11:42:10
My one hope is that DCL can transform our performances otherwise we are simply not good enough.

Looking at our remaining fixtures theres only the last game against Bournemouth where we will start favourite to win.
The game against Leicester is pivotable if we can somehow win that one we might have a chance.

Its football and anything can happen and often does but its looking increasingly grim to me.

Mark Taylor
117 Posted 22/04/2023 at 12:13:30
Making a silk purse from a sow's ear Part 32.

No offence to DCL but he is not renowned for getting straight back up to speed after another of his long lay offs.

No offence to Everton but we are not likely to have much of the ball in an away match to a moderately competent, in form team like Palace. We are going to have to play on the break, at least for the first hour or so, which means we need to have some pace up front. That would lead to Gray just ahead of Simms and Maupay nowhere in sight.

If we end up chasing an equaliser, or even a win, it's possible we will get some more set pieces later in the game and you could bring DCL on for that. But I don't think it makes sense to have someone in his condition chasing around for an hour.

As for the rest of the team, let's face it, I don't think we have a single player, other than maybe Pickford, who could be said to be undroppable, nor have we a single player who hasn't been playing who has made a cast iron case to start. They are pretty interchangeable, and not in a good way. The Chester game may have just been a kickabout but how very Everton to lose without even scoring. More than personnel, what we need above all else is luck going our way, a deflected shot or an own goal that give us the momentum we so sorely lack right now. Start praying.

Mick Conalty
118 Posted 22/04/2023 at 12:14:14
I have a cunning plan. If we look like we are going to get beat we suddenly become
"Just stop oil" protesters and
Get the game abandoned.
Simples.
John Keating
119 Posted 22/04/2023 at 12:16:54
The Fulham game was the turning point for us
David Hallwood
120 Posted 22/04/2023 at 12:20:29
I'm dreading the game today, largely because of the shambles I witnessed vs Fulham, which was a continuation of the shambles at Old Trafford. We seem to hitting the Lampard form when we are running out of games.

I don't want to be too critical of Dyche but that team and in game management was on a par with Martinez's West Ham moment; putting someone at RB who was hooked at halftime vs Man U because it was obvious he isn't a full back, when he had a proper RB available, picking Keane over Mina & Cody. Going 442 with 2 midgets up front, then have Pickford kick it long to them?? I could go on.

Finally in defence of Maupay(sort of) I remember when Naismith first came and Moyes played him mostly wide and sometimes up front, and he was dog shit out wide and even more dogger shitter up top. It was only when Martinez played him between the lines that we got a tune out of him, he was never the best player ever to pull a shirt on for Everton, but he did have some good games; the hattrick vs Chelsea stands out.

The moral of the story always play players in their favoured positions when possible and you'll get a tune out of them; it mightn't be a good tune or one you like, but it'll be a tune.

Brian Wilkinson
121 Posted 22/04/2023 at 12:33:37
You know what, I have a good feeling about todays game, might only be a point, but have a feeling Fulham and the Red shite will do a number on our rivals.

3 points would be lovely but bare minimum a point.

Up the toffees.

Barry Rathbone
122 Posted 22/04/2023 at 13:13:10
We get intimidated playing in London a point would be a nice surprise but don't be shocked at the usual no show and routine drubbing. Never be optimistic about Everton.
Danny O’Neill
123 Posted 22/04/2023 at 13:25:22
The Prince George near the ground a sea of blue. As is the street outside.

💙

Danny O’Neill
124 Posted 22/04/2023 at 13:25:22
The Prince George near the ground a sea of blue. As is the street outside.

💙

Danny O’Neill
125 Posted 22/04/2023 at 13:25:23
The Prince George near the ground a sea of blue. As is the street outside.

💙

Christy Ring
126 Posted 22/04/2023 at 13:30:30
Hope Dyche will learn from last week that two in midfield doesn’t work. I know Doucoure is missing, hopefully Onana is fit and plays with Gueye and Garner. He should start DCL and Mina instead of Keane, but can’t see him dropping Keane, Holgate right back if he doesn’t trust Patterson. Need at least a point today.

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