LoanWatch Wrap-up

Cannon, Simms, Dobbin, Warrington - maybe Onyango, even Astley.

That's a decent group to bolster the squad - saving vital £s for a strategic rebuild. Conversely if we stay up they'll all be out on loan again (and Simms probably sold).

Branthwaite is the really big talent as ever though. Hopefully he can become our DeLigt next season in the Premier League.

Harry Tyler’s potential was obvious when he played for the youth team, good player with a bit of character about him, Pickford was loaned out to a non league club while with Sunderland and then to various clubs higher up the league ladder until he landed at Everton, Harry might be needed very soon at the Blues if Jordan departs,Dobbin has always had the potential and played a logograms games in a very hard league this season hopefully he can come on with Tom Cannon help the club and save them a lot of money, Thanks again James.

I also wonder if Simms sees a place at Everton given his recall and little usage while DC-L was out and Maupay started before him presumably because the Manager wants a higher work rate.

I am too focussed on the first team right now, so I appreciate those who follow and watch the youngsters and those on our books playing elsewhere.

I've always been of the opinion that not enough British players gain experience abroad. Just about every other nation's players do it. And it's healthy.

On our players, I wonder if we could still get something out of Nkounkou? I'm still undecided about Simms, although loved how he bullied Koulibaly to get that equaliser.

Branthwaite should be in the team. I wish we had him now. And Warrington should have been closer to the first team squad this season. I know it's a step up, but his range of passing looks impressive.

Thanks again. Good report.

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— Lewis Dobbin (@LewisDobbin) May 7, 2023

Reading the Chester manager’s comments about Harry Tyrer has made my day (so far). What a great loan hat has been. Fully agree that the club now has to get him into the football league. It’s not too fanciful to think he could become Everton’s no1 at some point. Being a Crosby boy myself I’d love him to make it.

Branthwaite is class, we should be building a team around him. Dyche will probably want more hard experience at CB if we’re relegated, and if so he may be sold. I’d be despondent for us to lose a player who is going to the top of the game so early.

Nkounkou, a dream of a left foot and looks to be progressing, still has to prove it at a higher level, but who would bet against it. We will be selling him on the loan option too cheaply is my guess.

Warrington and Dobbin great minutes and experience. Interesting to see their next steps.

Cannon is proving he can finish chances at a good level. Can he maintain this consistency? He needs consideration as a back up striker for us next season, the lad can score goals !

Simms too, in normal circumstances he’d still be on loan and continuing his progression. He’s got a goal in him, I’d like to see more presence, aggression and willingness to make things happen, but really hasn’t had much of a chance to prove himself since returning. The goal against Chelsea needs repeating, often!

He will have a few clubs looking at him for next season if he is not used by us.

Do people really fear Brighton, or does that fear come from people knowing that Everton have just been going from bad to worse, and constantly chopping and changing managers, has done absolutely nothing to reverse the situation.

If we stay up - we are going to need a plan, and if we get relegated - we are going to need a plan, and it’s clear that throughout our constant upheaval, whilst having about eight managers and three DOF’S, in the last seven years, that Everton haven’t had a cohesive plan.

This page would be at the top, middle and bottom of my plan for Everton, because we have got to start doing much better with regards to bringing young players through, and most of my plans for our club, would resolve around this very key area, imo.

Tony (10) Yes once this club is placed with the right people in charge with some running the club off the field and others on the field youth recoupment is going to be a vital part of the plan to get us among the best clubs.

Apologies Alan. The "£17 million logjam" I was referring to were the combined wages of Keane/Tark/Godfrey/Holgate for EACH of the next 2 seasons.

I have the bad feeling that an inability to move any of those 4 at their current wage-rate, will be the determining factor in Jarrad's future with us.

Of course, if we go down, Jarrad probably will want to leave and we'll need the money.

Delighted if we manage to keep him, but the current Club situation seems to be leaning towards us never seeing him play again wearing the Royal Blue.

It was fun tracking their progress.

Many thanks.

Except Astley, who's gone on 30 june.

Pity about him. The manager at Stanley pushed him into the 1st team and played him all 90 minutes, 19 straight games! He earned and deserved the shot. But 1700+ League 1 minutes right out of U-Ball? Especially, the near-reckless way Ryan defended. That boy took a step back for no one.

Sure enough, Ryan's legs began to act up. Finally, he broke down.

We're not offering him a new contract. At least it appears so, since we're only weeks away from his contract ending.

I understand a manager wanting a fighter like Astley in his line-up. But, he should have been looked after a bit more.

AS's manager could have taken a look at how Derby handled Dobbins' minutes. 50+ games, important cog in the Derby attack, but re rarely went the full 90.

Anyway, good luck to Ryan. If he's healthy, he'll get offers in the lower leagues.

You know who we should extend if the worst befalls? Tom Davies. He'd work just fine in the Championship.

To your Pickford point, I recall John Ruddy had several spells on loan in the non league. I know he didn't make it at Everton but he has had a pretty good career.

Sure enough, it was Ruddy. Still going. Birmingham City's #1.

We DO have some young talent. And I think their loans all went well. They all worked their way into the clubs and logged lots of minutes.

With a special mention for Onyango and Branthwaite, who both had to work and fight their way into the starting line-up. What they're all up against, though, is the contracts of players in the Club squad.

We can't overlook or underestimate owners' desire to see the big money they paid running around out there on the pitch and not sitting on the bench. Managers have to deal with THAT pressure to when selecting the team.

Which for sure cuts back opportunities for our young players' with legit potential.

For instance, I can see us selling Simms this Summer. He has one year left on his contract, earning baby-wages.

Maupay has 2 years left earning 70K per week.

Guess which one Dyche has more pressure on him to play?

Aside from Branthwaite's obvious talent, I've got a good feeling about Tyrer and Cannon and have watched the latter score some decent goals in the Championship, he definitely has proven himself at that level. These two have always shown evidence of improvement throughout the youth teams so hope it continues.

You don't see him carted off, but that's when it happened. You can just see him reaching down between his legs, then jumping up.

But that's when he injured his hamstring and went off.

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Also, I'd add Dobbin to Branthwaite, Cannon and Tyrer. He too had a good 1st season out of U-Ball.

Regardless of divisions, Playoff Games carry extra intensity and significance that can grow or break a young prospect like Tyrer. National League North might be too low a level for him, but any minutes in the Playoffs for Tyrer, IMHO, would only be beneficial to him. I agreed that next stop for him should be League 1, but I would still be very happy if he can get similar amount of minutes with a League 2 Club next season.

So sad to see Gibson's injury problems remain.

Tipping my hat again to Thelwell for making some small changes on the extend-and-sell of Broadhead.

For Nkounkou, it appears that his performance should bring his valuation beyond the £3 Million option that Saint Etienne is trying to meet (with a view to sell to another team for a higher price after the transfer). Fingers crossed the cash-strapped Saint Etienne cannot find the cash in time for us to reap the benefit of increased price with another club.

It'll be tough to find Onyango a club higher than League 1, with rumours about his less-than-desired attitude (hope this is purely bogus). Fingers crossed for a speedy recovery.

Dele Alli's £5+ Million salary next season is a sunk cost. Let's move on.

Tremendous time for Cannon at Preston. I was told at the message board here that their Socouser Manager Ryan Lowe would nurture Cannon well: how prophetic that was! Another 3000+ minutes with a Championship Club next season would get him ready to play for us at BMD!

Ditto to Dobbin, though he is a slight bit farther away from First Team, compared to Cannon.

Outside of continue purging the deadwoods, Thelwell's biggest task this summer otherwise would be to extend Branthwaite's contract before the start of Pre-Season. The current sunk cost on Centre Backs should not be a detriment to the decision of extending him (Mina's £120K/week will be off the books, and if we can dump Keane & Holgate, we should have enough in the coffer for Branthwaite's extension AND signing Coady permanently).

If I were Thelwell, I would extend Warrington's contract for 2 years. He is young enough and has shown enough promise that his valuations would only rise.

We’ve been talking about offloading Keane and Holgate for years yet it never happens.

They’re both here for life

Anyway, onward and upward for Tyrer after a successful first season out of the nest. Looking forward to what happens with him next season.

Myself, I put Cannon and Dobbin on the same level of development and expect to see both in the Championship next season.

Dobbin to forge more time as a 90-minute player and Cannon to go a 46-game schedule with a "Stop-him-from-scoring" target on his back.

Dele might yet turn out to be a "sunk cost". I can't see a rash of clubs ringing the Everton phone off the hook pursuing him. Oh well.

And I sure hope Keane, Holgate, and Godfrey aren't "sunk cost". That's a lot of wages for Moshiri to eat at a time where we're under such financial scrutiny.

"if we can dump Keane & Holgate" is a huge ask, especially Holgate. He has 2 more years at 70K per week, with no real justification for being paid that kind of money. I can see some club coming for Keane.

And you didn't mention Godfrey. He's on 75K per week and he's terrible; defending or going forward.

It's not a matter of simply having money for Jarrad. As Moshiri said himself, he has the cash. He just can't spend it, given how his spending these years has put us in a precarious position with the league rules.

Given we might just be stuck with all 3, Branthwaite could just go to the highest bidder, even though, at 21-years old, he's already probably better than them.

Going to be an interesting Summer all around.

I want Keane and Holgate gone though as they can be replaced at very low cost. There is a chance too that Welch steps up although he probably needs a loan first.

Godfrey may yet have something to offer.

I also worry that Branthwaite may be sold since he is really the only saleable asset in terms of fee/wages and obviously talent. No one will want our other CBs

And God only knows if we get relegated.

I think (hope) we'll keep Branthwaite.

I'd sooner see us sell Onana. Athough he may yet mature into an excellent player, I think there are good low cost options for us in that position.

But all I see with Godfrey is that he's a terrific athlete who tries hard. That's it.

So, since I (We) really want Jarrad to stay, my "solution" to the financial logjam at CB:

Each owed 2 more years of wages.

Keane - 8.3 million

Godfrey - 7.8 million

Holgate - 7.3 million

Those wages would make quite reasonable transfer fees. We might want rid of all three, but they are multi-year, Prem veterans.

If the Club told all three, "Two of you won't play this season. Talk to your agent.", if two of them find deals, the Club could let them go on a "free" just to free the wages to make room for Jarrad; financially and on the pitch.

My "dream take" anyway.

Not to mention, Dele, Gomez, and Gbamin all have one more season at a cumulative 300K per week. So there's that.

Going to be an interesting window. We'll see how adept Thewell is. Even HE was an unusual signing.

That's what we've done with Allan and Schneiderlin. It's what Real Madrid did to us with Rodriguez and Spurs did to us with Alli.

We may treat Gomes in the same way.

So he may yet come good.

Also, if we sell everyone who isn't very good we'll only have about 5 players left and it just isn't realistic to buy in all the replacements we'd need.

He has never been a great header of the ball and is not that tall so I wouldnt consider him at CB and his concentration and judgement seem to preclude him from being a good FB so I think his opportunity has gone and he should be on the exit list.

For now, I'm gonna have to stay with "He's awful".

You're right about our squad. But I'm not proposing we sell every player who isn't any good.

Just thinking (and guessing at) players we could get rid of this Summer to free up substantial wages and some relief from the financial fix we're in with the league.

Just 5 players: Dele, Gomes, Gbamin and 2 of Keane/Godfrey/Holgate.

The first 3 the Club has no plans for. The CBs? I'll stay with your notion that there's a player in Godfrey. So Keane and Holgate.

Given the lengths of each contract, that's about 31million in wages dropped. If the Club doesn't demand a transfer fee or a really low one, anyway.

God knows what goes thru Dele's mind. He's just cashing checks. But the other 4 become reasonably attractive in the market, if their agents are any good.

And to mention, as far as I can find, none have children and they're all single. So haven't started the "Put down roots" phase of their lives. When discussing moving from club to club, that counts, too.

An interesting Summer coming.

I agree 100%, without caveat.

I always look up the list of potential players you post here from time to time. Wish the Club would.

Let's hope Sean Dyche and/or whoever else has any say in this matter uses their brain!

First 11 (back-up) (U23 replacement):

Pickford (Begovic) (Virgina)

Myka (Nkounku) (Ashley)

Branthwaite (Godfrey) (Gibson)

Tarks (Keane) (Welch)

Patterson (Coleman) (John)

McNeil (Gray) (Warrington)

Garner (Gana) (Onyango)

Onana (new signing?) (Price)

Duke (Townsend) (Mills)

Iwobi (Dele) (Dobbin)

DCL (Simms) (Cannon)