Report strengthens belief Coleman will be offered new terms

Good to see Seamus get another year, he deserves it and we are in need of quality in depth despite his age.

I understand people loves to keep youngster and see they come to fruition. But for a CB we all know it takes years to mature which we just can't afford for mistakes as we can't make it back upfront. So to me if a good offer comes in for Branthwaite, I'll sell and use the money to address Striker issue and also aging CM. We need a younger Doucoure if Onana is moving on too.

Selling Onana would be a major mistake -- the kid is only 21 and has greatness in him. A foundational piece to build around. I would sooner sell Calvert-Lewin.

Christine, I would definitely keep Branthwaite. His potential value is far above what his current market price would be.

Selling Onana would be a major mistake -- the kid is only 21 and has greatness in him. A foundational piece to build around. I would sooner sell Calvert-Lewin.

But money talks. If someone did pay $60m, double the money we paid in a year, then perhaps we should sell and find another player. Brighton sells high and buy low.

Lukaku's loan finishes at Inter and he doesn't seem happy at Chelsea...

That requires a lot of money, therefore can you afford to spend money on a CB who is too slow to play your four at the back system of pay for a right back who is going to be third choice? No one is going to buy Keane or Holgate they've been a disaster for years in a terrible defence, even Godfrey will prove hard to move on.

I believe Seamus will get a reduced wage offer and will accept, this will then lead onto him becoming involved in the coaching set up when he retires. We need a chance creating LB to push Myko who sorely lacks final product.

Onana will almost certainly be the sacrificial lamb but I suspect too, Pickford, no less than £120M for both. We would miss Pickford dearly but good keepers are ten a penny in the Bundesliga and can be picked up for a decent price allowing us to reinvest. Onana wouldn't be missed based on his team contributions this year, however he is young and raw and I agree with Mike, he will be a real player.

I don't want either to be sold to be clear here but we have to be realistic, FFP and also a new stadium, I am expecting this to happen and I will accept it. However, we have to recruit well. Gyokeres (with Simms as a makeweight in the deal to edge us over Brentford), Ndiaye from Sheff Utd and maybe Alex Scott, all from the championship and all will be expensive, however the above mentioned sales will give us the funds plus some left over.

I want Cannon to be given minutes, as well as Warrington and Mills next season. An inspired loan would be very welcome too. Much to do for Mr Thelwell and SD.

And hopefully Branthwaite has enjoyed his time at PSV, but is ready to come back. Or will Brands make a play for him?

I'm with you on Onana Mike. He's 21 and it was his first season. I know he has his critics and I agree with a lot of valid points made on him going missing in games. He is still developing. Hopefully he can do that with Everton in a more stable environment next season. Once he adds consistency to his game, he will be a very good player.

Good news on Seamus. Obviously the transition of the Right Back position is happening, but our club Captain has looked after himself and can still do a job when asked. And in a different, more modest way, is a respected presence amongst the players.

I am not entirely sure that current status Lukaku wants to play for Dyche. Would he close down the opponents when asked to? Proven goal scorer definitely but it might cause dressing room issue. You do not want something similar to Ronaldo in ManU.

Gonna be another long disappointing summer..

Although Coleman looks good for 84..

But no more sentimentality please. If Dyche is to stay then all the non-Dyche wimps like Iwobi, Maupay, Davies, Ali, Gomes, Keane, Holgate, mykolenko etc… need to go.

Branthwaite and Tarkowski could be a good platform to build from. Master and apprentice.

Godfrey, Keane and Holgate should be sold, and someone like Johnny Evans of a free would be a decent option as competition. Then another youngster from the academy should be promoted.

Also worth looking at Luke Thomas from Leicester for left back, only 21, has been a good Premier League left back and could get better.

A full medical assessment on Patterson needs to be done, are his injuries this season indicative of a serious problem, or has it been jus bad luck? Coleman is adequate back up and great leadership for dressing room, but can't be relied upon as a starter.

Onana has great potential, he'll be much better for his first season in the PL, but if we do have to sell one big value player, it's essentially a choice between Pickford and Onana, and we need to keep hold of Pickford.

Build midfield around Garner, find a player who can offer competition to Gana, and another who can provide competition to Doucoure. The like of Warrington and Mills should also be drafted into the squad if assessed they are good enough.

Sell Iwobi, he's in his final year so we should cash in while possible. Also maybe sell Grey, unless he accepts being nothing more than reserve.

Go all out for Viktor Gyökeres, while also promoting Cannon. Simms could probably be sold to a championship club for a reasonable fee, maybe even be offered to Coventry as part of the Gyökeres deal.

A right winger also a priority, we wanted Sulemana, maybe go back for him after Saint's relegation. He wasn't great for them, but is young and showed flashes. or maybe the scouting department could actually identify someone in South America that won't cost an arm and a leg. Worth also assessing whether Dobbin has shown significant development and worth a place in the squad.

However, the other 3 teams that got relegated all had bad, bad keepers. Pickford was probably the difference in a team that was clueless in the scoring stakes. Don't under estimate his contribution despite the odd ricket. He kept us up, and would do the same next season.

Like Mina, Onana, I would like Branthwaite to stay. They are the better players now, no doubt.

However, don't be surprised if he's moved on as well if a big enough bid comes in. He's raw, will make mistakes and in the here now the blues might just take the money ala Dunne & Ball.

Have the board resigned yet?

He may not be the marauding full back he once was, but there's no question about his contributions last season. Fully committed and some very impressive performances against top forwards.

The club don't need to go overboard as he will be back up for large parts of the season as Patterson establishes himself. A one year contract on a wage that reflects this partial back up status is required to help bring the club's perilous finances back into the real world and allowing more room for essential improvements elsewhere.

We then sold the 2 players who had kept us up Richarlison and Gordon.

This season we stayed up on the last day of the season.

If we sell our best players again - next year we will drop.

I love Seamus Coleman, and it's obvious that he loves Everton, so maybe give him a player coaches job somewhere within the club, but unfortunately on a really reduced wage.

That's what they want to hear. Boys for the jobs, just like how most of them got theirs. It certainly was not on ability, given the financial mess and the difficulty of fielding a first team next season.

Branthwaite and Tarkowski should be first choice next season. That means Keane going, then a decision on whether to keep Holgate as a utility squad player. With the amount of injuries we seem to get I wouldn't be in a hurry to lose him.

I'd love to see some of the youngsters being involved. Is it too late to get Isaac Price to stay? Could Reece Welch be a genuine option? I don't see much hope of this with Dyche's track record in young players.

We need 4 new attacking players though, so we've got to find some funds from somewhere.

While both Tony and Rob are right about all players get injured in their career, but I always wonder why the very top players don't seem to suffer the number of injuries that DCL has had. Surely it just cant be bad luck, Harry Kane hardly misses a game for Spurs, don't remember Messi or Ronaldo getting many injuries and very few players took as much stick as these 2. I well remember Paisley when he was manager of Liverpool said before signing a player he would look to see how many games he had played for his club for the previous 2 seasons and if they hadnt played 90% of games he didnt sign them.

If any club does offer these sums suggested lock Onana in a room and don't let him out until he signs those transfer forms!!

Good coleman news

Every team needs to battle. The less talented ones have to fight harder.
We can only afford players of a certain level of talent, so SD has to identify those that are up for earning their money with some graft.
In the current squad we have some of them. Players coming in will need to match it. Pickford, Tarkowski, Onana, McNeil (under Dyche), Garner, Iwobi all ran their socks off. I can't criticise a player for lack of talent when they chase every ball. That is what we need. It's what the best teams have always had. Look at the 85 team. 8 or 9 of them ran their socks off every match. And most of them were top talents.

Seamus, Mina, Davies, Vinagre, Coady, Townsend and the two reserve keepers all have contracts expiring in the summer. We will look for sales deals on Gomes, Gbamin, Nkonkou, Delle Alli, Virginia, Holgate and Keane while reintegrating Cannon and Branthwaite back into the squad.

Sorry, but we should welcome Coleman on the coaching staff and then look to the future. We only have two really saleable assets, Pickford and Onana. If we don't get additional investment this smmer, then I fear we will lose one of them.

There's a reason big clubs are sniffing him, he's got the full package. However teams know our finances and if he agitated for the move, I'd say 50m would probably be the top estimate.

We are not going to be shopping in waitrose this year guys we are shopping in the middle isle of aldi or looking for the whoopsies in asda.

You're right on the financials with Onana but he's the only sellable asset so I imagine they'll cash in they kick the can down the road as to money owed on drip

If a newly promoted side sign Holgate and Keane as their center backs they won't be in the EPL for long. I like you're thinking. Strategically weaken the other relegation candidates. Send Maupay to Luton, encourage Davies to join Sheff Utd and we should be good for at least 17th next year.

I would hope that means dyche has at least 40m net to play with (this then assumes that the tv money, etc. is going into the club as opposed to financing player sales).

Gomes, gabamin, Ali, nkonkou, Keane, Davis, Mina are not going to bring anything significant in, if anything.

Thelwell has not had much to work with in terms of finance or time. Onanas deal shows he can find players. A DOF needs time & finance. He's got a job on his hands with this squad and the financial constraints he will be working with.
Let's hope he's been busy planning.
Or is that to much to ask of an Everton DOF ?

I believe the club has posted losses of 𧹦 million over the last five years, and we've currently got a half-built stadium, an owner whose sugar daddy has been cuffed by sanctions, and investigations underway as to whether we have infringed FFP and Profit and Sustainability regulations - which could leave us prone to further punishments and plunge us firmly underwater.

The one thing the club can do to raise funds to pay down the debt is to sell players. Barring some minor miracle, like new owners coming in and writing out some hefty loan agreements, that is going to happen this summer, and probably several winters and summers to come.

Finding calmer waters is the order of the day right now, however that can happen; we don't have any real out-and-out jewels in our squad at this minute, so keeping hold of players is not the priority right now, so I suspect that our entire squad (especially any high earners) is for sale at a reasonable price, eg:

Pickford - 㿞+ million

Onana - 㿙+ million

Calvert-Lewin - 㿔+ million

McNeil - 㿊+ million

Branthwaite - 㿀+ million

Mykolenko - 㾻+ million

Iwobi - 㾻+ million

Gray - 㾶+ million

Holgate - 㾶+ million

Godfrey - 㾶+ million

Keane - ٣+ million

Davies - ٣+ million

The playing squad needs refreshing, and I expect us to only be able to re-invest a maximum of 50% of any funds that we generate - so we're talking a big negative net spend. And forget about the Gordon and Richarlison money; that's already plugging old shortfalls from previous years.

We cannot keep going down the route of ex players as they "Get Everton". Baines, Big Unsworth, Jeffers and Dunc. This cycle has to stop. The teary Bill romanticism has no place if we ever want Everton to compete again surely.

After years at Finch Farm look at the level Dunc and Unsworth are managing, and many wanted them to be Evertons manager.

It would be near impossible to keep avoiding relegation with our present finances, especially with our presently silent owner and board. They don't have a plan, and right now Everton need a real thought out plan, to get us out of the biggest mess our club has ever been in.

I can't see us selling DCL as I can't imagine anyone wanting to pay a significant fee for him and or pay substantial wages based on his past two seasons with us. There are three other players for example two of whom have been unemployed for months, the out is out of contract now who you could compare with him. Anyone wanting the other three avoids paying a transfer fee and yet as I said two of them have been unemployed for months.

Wilfried Zaha stats for last two seasons combined

Played 60 Scored 21 Assists 3

DCL stats for last two seasons combined:

Played 34 Scored 7 Assists 3

James Rodriguez stats for the last two seasons combined:

Played 38 Scored 11 Assists 11

Isco stats for last two seasons combined:

played 36 Scored 3 Assists 4

Also Tom at 5 million? He is out of contract so on a free

I am opposed to selling Onana who has great potential and is young, likewise with Branthwaite.

We need a clearout of the players who are not contributing and drawing wages: Mina, Davies, Vinagre, Coady, Townsend and the two reserve keepers all have contracts expiring in the summer.

We should move on Maupay, Gomes, Gbamin, Nkonkou, Dele Alli, Virginia, Holgate, Godfrey and Keane while reintegrating Cannon and Mills back into the squad.

That should generate around 㿔 to 50M – enough to buy a striker and a full back.

Then we should look at loans as backup to the squad to cover key positions.

I've been seething at Gbamin agent too. His client failed here, got nicked for drunk-driving (Gobshite) and should show some respect regardless.

However, the Gordon article “I wasn't fit enough for Newcastle” is utterly mind-boggling. Don't know whether to laugh at that blonde-haired gimp not being “on it” about fitness being needed, or cry at the fact our club were lacking those standards.

It's probably been a problem ever since Moyes went. Half-arsed footballers with half-arsed fitness. It's the one thing Dyche has changed and the reason we've stayed up. Likely the reason the squad rebelled against Rafa (even though he was a Gobshite too).

I've been saying that I'd prefer us to buy football players and look for a football playing manager….but without fitness levels being “top level”, nothing else will matter. Words this week from Dyche around “Pace Power and Energy” is what we need.

Happy to admit being wrong. We can add the football playing manager later. Maybe have same impact Bobby did after Moyes. For now, get the lazy ones fit Sean-olotti, and run out anyone who fails those bleeps you love.

#fumin

Kieran (66) – You are right. I am not sure if there is a clause that might see the club trigger a further year – or whether the club has offered him any kind of new contract (although hopefully not). He has been linked with Rangers I believe.

I love ToffeeWeb. You can write a post about how the lie of the land is essentially wildfire right out to the horizon, and the responses are about how I've priced up our fire-sale list. 🤣

It would be great to think that we can bring some decent quality players in under the radar and not pay silly money. Players who want to play for us and jump at the chance. Add to them the talented youngsters.

Mina was immense over the last few games and made a huge difference. Surely Branthwaite is the perfect replacement (although not so nasty and streetwise).

So Dyche et al, please go out and source some proper players with an attitude akin to Seamus and at least a modicum of skill.

Couffal, Willian, even Ashley Barnes if Dyche wants to do a Rondon. At the higher end of the spectrum, you've got Tielemans, Zaha, Lionel Messi…

I'm not going to believe any transfer hype, like this mornings one Everton linked with a striker "Beto" from Udinese, 㿊 million! What? 30 million old Players No 6 cards...

We haven't a pot to piss in and so roll on the buyout or buy-in, that's all I'm interested in. When is Kenwright getting his cards? Nothing less will interest me.

We need another right back, and not depend on Seamus, because Patterson is too injury-prone.

Given those unknowns, I too wouldn't be surprised if we don't bring in anyone via transfers. Maybe a couple players on free transfers.

Quite possibly it all depends on whether we can recoup any money on Dele Alli, Gbamin, Gomes, Holgate, Keane, etc. Most likely we'll be giving away players to get them off the wage bill. Like others, it would be great to have Mina back but I don't see it happening, because someone else will pay him more.

If you could promise me we'd have a mostly injury-free season, at least for Calvert-Lewin and our other top 5 or so players, and we brought in some cover at left-back, I think with Dyche we'd be comfortably mid-table without any new signings.

It wouldn't be ideal, and it'd be better if we were making 1-2 shrewd low-cost signings while integrating some younger players at the same time, but I wouldn't fret. The problem is an injury to Calvert-Lewin, Mykolenko, Tarkowski, Pickford, Garner, Doucouré, and we're in a world of shit again. And so we all fret.

Let's just hope Dyche doesn't walk if he gets no money to spend.

I agree. Ruthless clubs can cut 34-year-old veterans because – guess what? They have other good players.

The fact is that, regardless of his age, his serious leg break and anything else, Seamus is the best right-back and one of the best defenders we have at the club.

Garner was excellent on Sunday and is an example of why you don't need to spunk good money after bad. Just be shrewd.

As Kieran notes, there are some decent loan prospects. If we can get the dude who will be captain at central defensive midfield, maybe we could risk a flair player in the locker room. Get the locker room sorted and we could take a real chance if the money is there.

Branthwaite has had good reviews in the Netherlands and is just 20. He is the next John Stones.

Holgate is nearly 27 and Godfrey 26 so they should be the ones for certain to be offered around. Sadly both have 2 years left on their contracts so we perhaps need to bite the bullet and almost offer them on a free to get the wages off the books.

Inspired. Now can you go into the changing room and tell the players “just to win.”

We've got a lot of work to do at the striker position and we certainly need one if not two quality players up top. That should be our priority and certainly not to be left until the last minute.

Be shrewd in the market. Its not difficult. Manage expectation for both the current playing staff and supporters alike. This summer we are going to be linked with 30 Betos

Sky Sports news tonight " Everton remain interested in Udinese striker Beto. Udinese want 㿊 million for the striker"

THAT IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN

I'm just saying we need to manage everyone's expectation.

We have NO money. We need to be very frugal and very shrewd BUT bargains are there to be had and we can still be a force in the league without wasting millions

We will not and cannot make marquee signings for the foreseeable. We have to digest that fact and be realistic BUT we can still be competitive and I think we'll surprise ourselves next season. I think we've all learned a lot about how a club can be ruined. We will move forward from this

Not the “shrewd” thing though; that is absolute hot mess tumbling out the back-end of a horse. Recruitment is hard. It always has been. You say “it's not difficult” yet I'd imagine that the fans of Leicester, Southampton and Leeds are all feeling that their recruitment - much of which was jealously eyed-up by the resident transfer specialists on this site - turned out to be a lot less successful than they might have initially thought.

The problem with hindsight is that it makes the ambiguous seem obvious.

Some great ideas in this thread about shifting players but seriously, who's buying Delle Alli this summer? Nobody. If Thelwell can get 50 quid for him he's a miracle worker. DCL's value is at an all-time low given his injury problems, it's either move him for relative peanuts or keep him and hope he miraculously becomes robust. The latter is probably the better option unless there's someone else out there just as stupid as whoever thought Delle was a good risk, who'd spend big on him. I'm skeptical that such a person/club exists. Iwobi wouldn't fetch 25 million in a Hollywood fantasy movie. Holgate and Kean aren't bringing in big fees and nobody is buying Maupay.

I feel we'll be buying on the relative cheap and hoping for the best. Dyche turned McNeil into an important player, much less so Maupay. Hopefully Dyche is still here and given a big say in who we sign, he will know the kind of player he can use.

On a positive note, Kenwright's much vaunted decades-long world-wide search for a viable funding source (now that he's ruined Moshiri) has now extended all the way to Ormskirk, to an Everton fan.

Answers on a postcard please - what could possibly be better?

ohhhh-kay.

Thelwell had identified a good ore in Onana. He bought it and open a small window and show case it on a bigger stage (EPL). Now the one who has money, the skills to open the ore and turn it into a jewel can do the next step. Do we have the skill, tools and right environment to turn it from ore to jewel? What would a ball playing CB like John Stones like if he's still playing for us? Would we be able to fetch $80m for him now? $40m that we sold to ManCity or less?

As much as I'd love to see the younger players grow and become classy players one day, it pained me to say that we are not the team has the luxury for them to make mistakes. What we concede at the back we cannot make it up from the front.

How can we progress this way? We can't. We wheel and deal for profits and wait for the stadium to be completed. Until we consistently back in top 10, we can then think about next step. Moyes had brought us to such place before for the next phase when we consistently around 6th -8th. But Mosh bottled up big time when trying to move us up further.

I know you won't.

The work load trust upon him during the season just ended was immense given his age and we can be thankful that he was able to deal with it and prove to be one of our better performers.

If the sole criteria for a contract extension is one's performance levels in the previous season, then he has earned it.

It is understood Blythe are acting as the broker and are not putting in cash themselves.

When it comes to Pickford, I think we will have to sell in order to fund a squad rebuild. It's not ideal but I think him & Onana will go as they will bring in the most money. If we can use the funds this generates to not only bring in a quality replacement keeper but also more quality in other key positions where are lacking numbers/decent players (like left back and striker) then it is a necessary evil I think.

If your analysis is correct and I think that it might be, it does make you wonder where the funds generated from the Anthony Gordon sale in late January went to?

I have always thought that Gordon had to be sold and have not seen any evidence to the contrary since he moved.

Given the dire financial circumstances we cannot afford a transfer fee for any player unless there are sales to match. That is why £4.5m for Coady looks unrealistic. He is a leader on and off the pitch but I am not convinced his play is a significant upgrade on Michael Keane, especially in a back four. He was dropped by Dyche after Buendía left him for dead in the Villa game at Goodison.

I imagine any offers for any of our players will be considered.

Worse than that - as hopefully we all know and recognise - the board decided to throw the entire fan-base under the bus during HeadlockGate. In the absence of any police investigation, or evidence, or personal testimony, what conclusion are we supposed to draw? Well here's my conclusion; they decided to invent/inflate a threat against their safety, then ran to the press rather than the police in order for it to spread quickly, all so they could excuse themselves from having to sit in their seats and face the scorn that they well and truly deserve. And even if there is a kernel of truth in the allegation, and DBB was rough-housed in some way, was their course of action in the best interests of the club? No. It put the club under the microscope of the press and TV pundits in such a negative way - and the decision to do that was made by the custodians of the club, the people who are supposed to be taking care of the club. So why did they do it? It was a calculated operation in order to divert attention away from themselves, and reconstitute themselves in the role of victim. It's right out of the Donald Trump playbook, and it marks them all out for what they are. Cowards. Turncoats. Rats.

If I was able to be part of the march then I would be there. I hope those who can physically make it will turn out. Enough is enough. Change needs to come, and we cannot be quiet about this. Or patient. It needs to happen now. And if this sort of disquiet and disenchantment can expedite Moshiri to sell, and in doing so resign Kenwright to the annals of history, then it'll be a rich form of justice.

Farhad Moshiri reportedly a ‘person of interest' at special unit over links to sanctioned oligarch Alisher Usman

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Punish the Guilty ?

Not the Innocent !

I think you are correct re the Gordon sale – I always assumed the money that came in was all used to pay off debts to keep us within the rules. Although with all that still rumbling on, I'm not sure if it worked or not.

I guess I am assuming that, if we sell a couple of our big stars in summer for good money, we might have a decent chunk of it left to sign some new players, even if a bit also has to go to the bank

Could well be wrong though, it's a funny old game as they say and anything could happen.