Report strengthens belief Coleman will be offered new terms

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Seamus Coleman is to be offered the chance to extend his career at Everton by at least a year according to a report in The Times who also suggest that Jordan Pickford wants to remain at the club despite interest in his services from elsewhere.

Paul Joyce claims that while it is unclear whether the Blues will exercise an option to make Conor Coady's loan move from Wolves permanent for £4.5m, Coleman will be offered a new deal while he recovers from the knee operation he recently underwent to repair damaged knee ligaments.

The club captain passed 400 appearances for Everton this season and was just two shy of Tim Howard's Premier League record 354 games when he was injured just before half-time during the 2-2 draw at Leicester City at the start of the month.

His surgery was described as "minor" and he is expected to be fit for the start of the new season should he agree to new terms.

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Pickford, meanwhile, has been the subject of persistent speculation linking him with a move to Tottenham Hotspur or Manchester United but Joyce suggests that England's No.1 has no desire to leave Goodison Park having put pen to paper on a contract extension in February that tied him to the Blues until the summer of 2027.

The journalist's report does acknowledge, however, that there has been interest from Arsenal and Chelsea in Amadou Onana and with it being more or less accepted that Everton will need to sell at least one of their high-value assets this summer in order to raise funds for incoming players, the young Belgian could move on after just one year with the club if a big enough offer comes in. 

Asmir Begovic, meanwhile, could also be offered the chance to extend his time with the Blues by another year now that his latest contract has expired.

Quotes sourced from The Times

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Jack Plant
1 Posted 30/05/2023 at 06:27:54
Good news, what are people's thoughts on Coady? Personally I'd rather keep him and get rid of Keane & Holgate if we could find buyers for them.
Christine Foster
2 Posted 30/05/2023 at 06:34:29
Jack, I tend to agree, while both are experienced centre backs, I think Keane should move on and if we get a good offer for Holgate then we should consider it. At centre back I think Coady is a better option than either Keane or Holgate. But, a big but, it depends if we sell Branthwaite, if we do I think we will keep Coady and Holgate.

Good to see Seamus get another year, he deserves it and we are in need of quality in depth despite his age.

Lester Yip
3 Posted 30/05/2023 at 06:34:51
I personally think if Coady is not on too high wages, we should sign him for $4.5m. It's peanuts these days for a solid experienced CB as rotation. Then we are in position to move any of the following on if needed to (Holgate, Godfrey, Branthwaite).

I understand people loves to keep youngster and see they come to fruition. But for a CB we all know it takes years to mature which we just can't afford for mistakes as we can't make it back upfront. So to me if a good offer comes in for Branthwaite, I'll sell and use the money to address Striker issue and also aging CM. We need a younger Doucoure if Onana is moving on too.

Mike Gaynes
4 Posted 30/05/2023 at 06:35:35
Two great pieces of news about two great leaders this club so desperately needs to remain.

Selling Onana would be a major mistake -- the kid is only 21 and has greatness in him. A foundational piece to build around. I would sooner sell Calvert-Lewin.

Christine, I would definitely keep Branthwaite. His potential value is far above what his current market price would be.

Mike Gaynes
5 Posted 30/05/2023 at 06:36:16
Two great pieces of news about two great leaders this club so desperately needs to remain.

Selling Onana would be a major mistake -- the kid is only 21 and has greatness in him. A foundational piece to build around. I would sooner sell Calvert-Lewin.

Frank Sheppard
6 Posted 30/05/2023 at 06:36:27
Pickford kept us up this season. I can’t help thinking he will want to play Champions League.
Lester Yip
7 Posted 30/05/2023 at 06:41:12
I can see why big clubs sniffing around Onana. His ball carrying is good given his height. His overall passing and control is ok and his tackling (the reach) is good. Definitely an impactful player if used correctly.

But money talks. If someone did pay $60m, double the money we paid in a year, then perhaps we should sell and find another player. Brighton sells high and buy low.

Sean Roe
8 Posted 30/05/2023 at 06:52:12
There's no better mentor for Patterson and he's proved this season that age has made little difference to his performances on the pitch so a year extension is sensible.
I would keep Coady but Dyche obviously doesn't really fancy him so who knows.

Lukaku's loan finishes at Inter and he doesn't seem happy at Chelsea...

Andrew Brookfield
9 Posted 30/05/2023 at 07:16:24
I’d look to bring in Lukaku (or similar strength and size striker), Max Aaron’s for RB, a left back, and a fast, goal scoring Right Winger.

That requires a lot of money, therefore can you afford to spend money on a CB who is too slow to play your four at the back system of pay for a right back who is going to be third choice? No one is going to buy Keane or Holgate they’ve been a disaster for years in a terrible defence, even Godfrey will prove hard to move on.

Steve Shave
10 Posted 30/05/2023 at 07:26:23
I like Coady but although the value (£4.5m) is excellent, I can't see him wanting to be here and warm the bench. We have Godfrey and Holgate to do that, Brainthwaite HAS to be next seasons starter alongside Tarkowski.

I believe Seamus will get a reduced wage offer and will accept, this will then lead onto him becoming involved in the coaching set up when he retires. We need a chance creating LB to push Myko who sorely lacks final product.

Onana will almost certainly be the sacrificial lamb but I suspect too, Pickford, no less than £120M for both. We would miss Pickford dearly but good keepers are ten a penny in the Bundesliga and can be picked up for a decent price allowing us to reinvest. Onana wouldn't be missed based on his team contributions this year, however he is young and raw and I agree with Mike, he will be a real player.

I don't want either to be sold to be clear here but we have to be realistic, FFP and also a new stadium, I am expecting this to happen and I will accept it. However, we have to recruit well. Gyokeres (with Simms as a makeweight in the deal to edge us over Brentford), Ndiaye from Sheff Utd and maybe Alex Scott, all from the championship and all will be expensive, however the above mentioned sales will give us the funds plus some left over.

I want Cannon to be given minutes, as well as Warrington and Mills next season. An inspired loan would be very welcome too. Much to do for Mr Thelwell and SD.

Ben King
11 Posted 30/05/2023 at 07:27:36
Good news re Coleman. Back up right back for no transfer fee and he’s a leader
Danny O’Neill
12 Posted 30/05/2023 at 07:30:22
Jack, Christine and others, I too would keep Coady. With the loss of Mina and unless we pull a Rabbit out of the hat, he is a good option. He started well, but faded and then was out of favour. It's also his leadership. If you watch the Tunnel Access footage on the official website, it's his voice you can hear loudest.

And hopefully Branthwaite has enjoyed his time at PSV, but is ready to come back. Or will Brands make a play for him?

I'm with you on Onana Mike. He's 21 and it was his first season. I know he has his critics and I agree with a lot of valid points made on him going missing in games. He is still developing. Hopefully he can do that with Everton in a more stable environment next season. Once he adds consistency to his game, he will be a very good player.

Good news on Seamus. Obviously the transition of the Right Back position is happening, but our club Captain has looked after himself and can still do a job when asked. And in a different, more modest way, is a respected presence amongst the players.

Lester Yip
13 Posted 30/05/2023 at 07:32:26
A newly promoted side might take on Keane/Holgate for their experience in the Premier League. The question is at what price and more importantly whether the player wants to move as I guess they're getting pretty good pay at Everton?

I am not entirely sure that current status Lukaku wants to play for Dyche. Would he close down the opponents when asked to? Proven goal scorer definitely but it might cause dressing room issue. You do not want something similar to Ronaldo in ManU.

Mark Andersson
14 Posted 30/05/2023 at 07:47:05
Just shows how desperate Everton have become.. A 84 year old right back and no real striker...

Gonna be another long disappointing summer..

Although Coleman looks good for 84..

Colin Glassar
15 Posted 30/05/2023 at 07:51:43
Wasn’t Coady dropped for a reason ie too slow? Branthwaite should be brought back to team up with Tarkowski. I’m happy with Seamus staying while Patterson learns from one of the best.

But no more sentimentality please. If Dyche is to stay then all the non-Dyche wimps like Iwobi, Maupay, Davies, Ali, Gomes, Keane, Holgate, mykolenko etc… need to go.

Fran Mitchell
16 Posted 30/05/2023 at 07:53:00
I like Coady, he's got leadership which is lacking. But he does struggle in a back 4. So if he stayed it would be as back up only, and can't see him being happy with that. He'd be a good option for many of the newly promoted sides as a starter.

Branthwaite and Tarkowski could be a good platform to build from. Master and apprentice.

Godfrey, Keane and Holgate should be sold, and someone like Johnny Evans of a free would be a decent option as competition. Then another youngster from the academy should be promoted.

Also worth looking at Luke Thomas from Leicester for left back, only 21, has been a good Premier League left back and could get better.

A full medical assessment on Patterson needs to be done, are his injuries this season indicative of a serious problem, or has it been jus bad luck? Coleman is adequate back up and great leadership for dressing room, but can't be relied upon as a starter.

Onana has great potential, he'll be much better for his first season in the PL, but if we do have to sell one big value player, it's essentially a choice between Pickford and Onana, and we need to keep hold of Pickford.

Build midfield around Garner, find a player who can offer competition to Gana, and another who can provide competition to Doucoure. The like of Warrington and Mills should also be drafted into the squad if assessed they are good enough.

Sell Iwobi, he's in his final year so we should cash in while possible. Also maybe sell Grey, unless he accepts being nothing more than reserve.

Go all out for Viktor Gyökeres, while also promoting Cannon. Simms could probably be sold to a championship club for a reasonable fee, maybe even be offered to Coventry as part of the Gyökeres deal.

A right winger also a priority, we wanted Sulemana, maybe go back for him after Saint's relegation. He wasn't great for them, but is young and showed flashes. or maybe the scouting department could actually identify someone in South America that won't cost an arm and a leg. Worth also assessing whether Dobbin has shown significant development and worth a place in the squad.

Ian Bennett
17 Posted 30/05/2023 at 07:55:38
I've never been a huge Pickford fan in terms of him being a top, top keeper. I think his size will always go against him compared to the 6 ft 4 monsters ahead of him at the top of the game.

However, the other 3 teams that got relegated all had bad, bad keepers. Pickford was probably the difference in a team that was clueless in the scoring stakes. Don't under estimate his contribution despite the odd ricket. He kept us up, and would do the same next season.

Like Mina, Onana, I would like Branthwaite to stay. They are the better players now, no doubt.

However, don't be surprised if he's moved on as well if a big enough bid comes in. He's raw, will make mistakes and in the here now the blues might just take the money ala Dunne & Ball.

Mick O'Malley
18 Posted 30/05/2023 at 08:01:34
Mike Gaynes I completely agree about Onana, he’s the type we should keep, he’s going to get better and better, I know he has his hater’s but I’m a big admirer of him, I’d be gutting to see him leave, regarding Coleman getting a new contract, from his displays this season it is well earned, what a goal against Leeds as well
Ray Roche
19 Posted 30/05/2023 at 08:05:42
I can’t understand people wanting to ‘cash in’ on Branthwaite. He’s exactly the sort of player we should be recruiting, not selling. Everyone is raging on about Brighton bringing in talented young players and when we have one people want to sell him.
The next thing is he’ll be playing for England and Captain at United who picked him up for a song. Ridiculous.
Jim Lloyd
20 Posted 30/05/2023 at 08:09:13
I think the club will wait until the fianncial mess we're in and the outcome regarding the Investigation is known. So, for now, my guess it's a matter of holding onto those players Sean wants to keep (if we can!) rather than who we'd like to see come into the club.
Who we'd like to see stay and those we don't think are good enough, or have to sell for the money, I think is more likely for now.
Mind you, I'm not a financial wizard. It look like Moshiri will be needing as much money as poss to finish the stadium, so maybe if the yanks become investors, we might have transfer money then. For now, I think it's a matter of hold on to what we've got if we can. and let go those we definitely don't need/want.
Colin Glassar
21 Posted 30/05/2023 at 08:12:26
I’d like Onana to stay. He’s young and is still learning his craft but I think he’ll be our next big transfer to “balance the books”.

Have the board resigned yet?

Duncan McDine
22 Posted 30/05/2023 at 08:17:16
Seamus is the only remaining player in our squad that I fully appreciate, so it’s fantastic to hear that he should return from that knee injury for another season. Obviously the financial mess that Mosh and co have put us in, means that Dyche must be practical (in terms of offering new contracts), but a healthy Seamus is a must have.
Christine Foster
23 Posted 30/05/2023 at 08:18:19
Hmm, some good points, but I think we made need to get our business done asap. We don't know when the Independent commission will sit, nor what the charges are or if we are found guilty or not but likely penalties are points, transfer bans and large fines. So if its a transfer ban, lets not wait to find out and get our players in while we can.
Tony Everan
24 Posted 30/05/2023 at 08:42:48
With regards Seamus Coleman or anyone else, we need to kick sentimentality in the head. First question has to be ‘can they perform at the highest level ? ‘ In Seamus’s case last season proved that absolutely he can.

He may not be the marauding full back he once was, but there’s no question about his contributions last season. Fully committed and some very impressive performances against top forwards.

The club don’t need to go overboard as he will be back up for large parts of the season as Patterson establishes himself. A one year contract on a wage that reflects this partial back up status is required to help bring the club’s perilous finances back into the real world and allowing more room for essential improvements elsewhere.

Matt Hayhurst
25 Posted 30/05/2023 at 08:47:39
Last year we stayed up on the penultimate game of the season.

We then sold the 2 players who had kept us up Richarlison and Gordon.

This season we stayed up on the last day of the season.

If we sell our best players again - next year we will drop.

Marc Hints
26 Posted 30/05/2023 at 09:00:33
I cannot believe there has been no communication from the owner and board so far
Mark Ryan
27 Posted 30/05/2023 at 09:02:29
2 seasons ago many of us were saddened at the sight of him getting skinned and felt it was time he hung his boots up. He is past his prime but proved himself worthy of a place this past season and I'm pleased he's been offered 1 more go. He's a great lad and good for the team. I hope he plays a bit part next season and Patterson cements his own place as a starter at right back. Great news this if true. I hope we don't have to sell Onana or Jordan. I think I might be being overly optimistic. Is the board going to thank Sean publicly. That's what I want to hear. In the words of a famous drunken TV chef " where are you?"
Martin Reppion
28 Posted 30/05/2023 at 09:04:08
Great news if Seamus is to stay. He is an Everton legend and I believe he still has something to offer.
On the other potential ins and outs, we first need to get the forgotten ones off the books, Gomes, Gbamin, Alli. Along with Mina that would free up a huge chunk of wages. If we could also offload Maupay and Holgate we are looking at around £500k a week (I believe).
With Branthwaite coming back that doesn't impact the squad at all.
If we can find the funds to then buy, for instance, Gykores, Ihaenacho, Harvey Barnes I'd call it a more than acceptable summer.
I'll wake up soon. We'll be buying another Brett Angel and start al over again.
Tony Abrahams
29 Posted 30/05/2023 at 09:06:39
One major thing about modern football is that nearly every single player gets injured nowadays, and this is obviously a major worry for a club without real finance to bolster their squad.

I love Seamus Coleman, and it’s obvious that he loves Everton, so maybe give him a player coaches job somewhere within the club, but unfortunately on a really reduced wage.

Andy Kay
30 Posted 30/05/2023 at 09:14:36
i'm afraid decisions like this illustrate why we've been a basket case of a club battling relegation for recent seasons. I love Seamus, his passion and pride of wearing the blue shirt has been 2nd to none in that team, but when you start making excuses on keeping him involved as a player for the coming season shows we're no different to teary Bill for being sentimental old bastards. Seamus shouldnt be anywhere near an Everton team going forward unless its in a coaching role. At the end of last season he was responsible for plenty of goals against us as time caught up with him. his mistake against United away this season was another sign his days are over. Love him to pieces but he's finished. The Leeds goal was brilliant but i'm afraid I cant see Father time allowing many more performances like that. A ruthless club wanting to be heading in the right direction would be looking at a right back ( again ) as a priority and using Patterson as back up. I don't ever want to see Holgate or Godfrey pretend to play there again. ( Both should go in my opinion as neither can actually defend). Surely there must be a 23 year old right back wanting to play in the Premier League. Thanks for your wonderful service Seamus but i'd rather give Stanley Mills a go in 23/24
Rob Halligan
31 Posted 30/05/2023 at 09:18:30
Tony, you’re right, every single player can, or will, get injured nowadays, such is the intensity of the game. however, god help any player that gets injured playing for Everton, as its simply forbidden, and you will almost face certain abuse for having the audacity to tear a hamstring!
Tony Waring
33 Posted 30/05/2023 at 09:39:45
Hang on to Onana and Braithwaite. hTey are young and they're the future which presumably we are all looking forward to spending in the Premier League !
Jerome Shields
34 Posted 30/05/2023 at 09:43:51
Tony #29,

That's what they want to hear. Boys for the jobs, just like how most of them got theirs. It certainly was not on ability, given the financial mess and the difficulty of fielding a first team next season.

Niall McIlhone
35 Posted 30/05/2023 at 09:44:13
This is great news, Lyndon, however, I think posts 20 and 23 are relevant to the real issues underlying player retention and recruitment, as we as fans probably know zilch about how this Independent Commission thing will pan out. My main worry is that we now have a strong and clear minded manager who, I feel, will walk if he sees he is being dealt another dead hand, as happened when he was appointed with no transfer budget and a demoralised and unbalanced squad. It is essential that Sean Dyche is at least given a clear picture of what he is working with as none of the problems with the squad can be pinned on him. Staying up makes a world of difference to bringing in better players.
I have no doubt at all that Coleman will be offered a short term contract, and Pickford should be retained at all costs, he has matured into one of the best in the world and if he can be retained he will see his career out with Everton.
Mike Allison
36 Posted 30/05/2023 at 09:47:33
Onana will be the one to leave I feel.

Branthwaite and Tarkowski should be first choice next season. That means Keane going, then a decision on whether to keep Holgate as a utility squad player. With the amount of injuries we seem to get I wouldn’t be in a hurry to lose him.

I’d love to see some of the youngsters being involved. Is it too late to get Isaac Price to stay? Could Reece Welch be a genuine option? I don’t see much hope of this with Dyche’s track record in young players.

We need 4 new attacking players though, so we’ve got to find some funds from somewhere.

George Cumiskey
37 Posted 30/05/2023 at 09:49:25
We need a goalscorer and a talented CM in the Maddison mold for me asap as we haven't had someone who can create chances since Siggy left the club and no decent striker since Lukaku went.
Brian Harrison
38 Posted 30/05/2023 at 09:58:28
I think most Blues have great admiration for Coleman he has been a terrific servant to this club and over the years has led by example. But I agree with a lot Andy says in his post, that top clubs are ruthless when it comes to players over a certain age still getting a playing contract. I think its a real shame that our best CB by far is allowed to leave on a free, yes his injury record isn't great but surely we could have exploited a contract which took into account games played. I am sure that if we paid him the money that it will cost to get Coady from Wolves it would be money well spent, as the stats prove when Mina plays we conceded less goals.
I don't believe we can start next season with Coady and Tarkowski as our CBs, and Branthwaite wont be ready to start next season.

While both Tony and Rob are right about all players get injured in their career, but I always wonder why the very top players don't seem to suffer the number of injuries that DCL has had. Surely it just cant be bad luck, Harry Kane hardly misses a game for Spurs, don't remember Messi or Ronaldo getting many injuries and very few players took as much stick as these 2. I well remember Paisley when he was manager of Liverpool said before signing a player he would look to see how many games he had played for his club for the previous 2 seasons and if they hadnt played 90% of games he didnt sign them.

Dave Abrahams
39 Posted 30/05/2023 at 10:10:48
Forget the argument of whether Onana is good, bad or indifferent, where is the profit going to come from? We agreed to pay £30-35M for him on the drip with the club he came fro getting a reported 20% of any future deal, we still owe the majority of the fee agreed and I’d be very surprised if any club would pay the fee some some fans on here think we would get, especially if they have watched a lot of his games for Everton since he came.

If any club does offer these sums suggested lock Onana in a room and don’t let him out until he signs those transfer forms!!

Nicolas Piñon
40 Posted 30/05/2023 at 10:19:16
Nobody will buy calvert lewin I suspect, so Onana and pickford have a ticket to ride I guess…

Good coleman news

Clive Rogers
41 Posted 30/05/2023 at 10:27:40
Dave, 39, you’re right. We will do well to get back what we paid. They are only talking £50M for Maddison, a much safer buy.
Mark Ryan
42 Posted 30/05/2023 at 10:41:28
I see SKY are talking about us buying a striker from Udinese. Are the non existent, Goodison-shy, Board trying to appease us ? I can see them all sat in a darkened room with tin hats on asking each orher " is it safe to come out yet?"
They'll need to try harder than that
Tony Everan
43 Posted 30/05/2023 at 11:05:06
The elephant in the room is what amount do we offer Seamus to stay on for one more year in a likely majority back up capacity? £1 million ? It sounds reasonable to me but would that be acceptable to him? At what level do we draw the line in the sand? You tell me.
Neil Carter
44 Posted 30/05/2023 at 11:08:42
Coleman staying is good news-we need to go through a lot of changes just to try to stabilise on the pitch and break the current death dives each season-he’s the right character to help.
The squad is thread bare except for the overload in centre backs-we desperately need strikers and a left back and some strengthening the midfield.
Dyche needs a chance to build stability-OK no pretty football for a while-I’d rather have a tougher team than we have got right now-all our success was built on tough teams with players dying for the cause. I know modern football isn’t like that anymore but at least a good spine in a team is the minimum requirement for a stable Premier League club.
Neil Carter
45 Posted 30/05/2023 at 11:11:32
I would also give Dyche a massive say in who we buy.
January was a joke not to be repeated this summer.
Tony Abrahams
46 Posted 30/05/2023 at 11:12:05
One serious injury has led to a load of other problems for DCL, but I don’t think any of the players you mentioned would have played as many games in their long and illustrious career’s Brian, if they would have had to lead the line by themselves whilst playing for Everton, mate.
Dave Lynch
47 Posted 30/05/2023 at 11:19:22
Every club needs a Seamus.
He's a leader and giant in that squad, even when not playing or fit he will motivate and remind players what it means to wear the ue shirt.
Martin Reppion
48 Posted 30/05/2023 at 11:25:19
Neil, modern football is no different from old football, in that the formula Talent X Effort + a balance of the luck = The Result
The best teams have talented players who put the effort in.
A team with the talent of Leicester with a rocket up them would not have been relegated. Leeds with any amount of motivation would have gone down.
At the top, Citeh fight and chase every ball. Chelsea's over paid prima donnas got what their half arsed attitude deserved. (maybe more).

Every team needs to battle. The less talented ones have to fight harder.
We can only afford players of a certain level of talent, so SD has to identify those that are up for earning their money with some graft.
In the current squad we have some of them. Players coming in will need to match it. Pickford, Tarkowski, Onana, McNeil (under Dyche), Garner, Iwobi all ran their socks off. I can't criticise a player for lack of talent when they chase every ball. That is what we need. It's what the best teams have always had. Look at the 85 team. 8 or 9 of them ran their socks off every match. And most of them were top talents.

Ashley Roberts
49 Posted 30/05/2023 at 12:29:24
Keeping Seamus makes a lot of sense as he is a true leader whether playing or not. I can see him being a mentor and understudy to Patterson next season. I agree with Colin #15. All of those players need to be moved on. I would hope we could find the funds to keep Mina because when fit he is a beast and has real attitude that the opposition hate. He would play with the lefty Branthwaite and provide balance. I would then keep Tarkowski and Godfrey as back ups. We definitely need a new quality left back as Mykelenko is not up to the task and then we need a creative midfielder who can score some goals. Iwobi just does not know how to score a goal and should be moved on to get some funds through the door. Onana must stay and we obviously need another striker although I am optimistic that Cannon might come good. Maybe him and DCL together could be a formidable partnership.
Steve Brown
50 Posted 30/05/2023 at 12:43:23
We need a right back, left back, central advanced midfielder, right winger and centre-forward.

Seamus, Mina, Davies, Vinagre, Coady, Townsend and the two reserve keepers all have contracts expiring in the summer. We will look for sales deals on Gomes, Gbamin, Nkonkou, Delle Alli, Virginia, Holgate and Keane while reintegrating Cannon and Branthwaite back into the squad.

Sorry, but we should welcome Coleman on the coaching staff and then look to the future. We only have two really saleable assets, Pickford and Onana. If we don’t get additional investment this smmer, then I fear we will lose one of them.

David West
52 Posted 30/05/2023 at 13:16:02
I like Onana, I feel he's going to be a top player. His age is forgotten alot of the time in conversation about his performances. He played a lot of games this year for 21 yo first year in this league.

There's a reason big clubs are sniffing him, he's got the full package. However teams know our finances and if he agitated for the move, I'd say 50m would probably be the top estimate.

We are not going to be shopping in waitrose this year guys we are shopping in the middle isle of aldi or looking for the whoopsies in asda.

Kieran Kinsella
53 Posted 30/05/2023 at 13:54:20

You’re right on the financials with Onana but he’s the only sellable asset so I imagine they’ll cash in they kick the can down the road as to money owed on drip

Kieran Kinsella
54 Posted 30/05/2023 at 14:10:13

If a newly promoted side sign Holgate and Keane as their center backs they won't be in the EPL for long. I like you're thinking. Strategically weaken the other relegation candidates. Send Maupay to Luton, encourage Davies to join Sheff Utd and we should be good for at least 17th next year.

Joseph Terrence
55 Posted 30/05/2023 at 14:12:51
It amazes me that we are apparently skint. We sold Richarlison for 60m last summer and it seems that there's a collective memoryholing of Gordon being sold to Newcastle for 40m in January.

I would hope that means dyche has at least 40m net to play with (this then assumes that the tv money, etc. is going into the club as opposed to financing player sales).

Christy Ring
56 Posted 30/05/2023 at 14:17:12
Seamus definitely deserves a year’s extension, his performance this season proves that, because Patterson is injury prone Coleman will still be expected to play more games than he should. I’d keep Onana, he’s only going to get better after a year under his belt, Why would we want to sell Brainthwaite, the only left sided centre back we have, 6’6 and at 21 played in Europe this year? I’d keep Calvert Lewin, a good preseason, still buy a target man but offload Maupay.
David West
57 Posted 30/05/2023 at 14:27:24
Kiaran Makes sense. This is the type of player we should be targeting. Get 2 onannas with the money.
When you see the list of players who are probably going to leave for nothing or minimal fees buying to sell in 1 or 2 years is our best option.

Gomes, gabamin, Ali, nkonkou, Keane, Davis, Mina are not going to bring anything significant in, if anything.

Thelwell has not had much to work with in terms of finance or time. Onanas deal shows he can find players. A DOF needs time & finance. He's got a job on his hands with this squad and the financial constraints he will be working with.
Let's hope he's been busy planning.
Or is that to much to ask of an Everton DOF ?

Neil Carter
58 Posted 30/05/2023 at 14:37:26
Joseph 55-doesn’t amaze me when the main benefactor was sanctioned a year last February.
Ed Prytherch
59 Posted 30/05/2023 at 14:50:43
Joseph 55, the club has massive debt. Those two were sold to reduce the debt. Moshiri did it and we stayed up so for him the strategy worked but he must know that he might not be so lucky if he tries it again.
Andrew Keatley
60 Posted 30/05/2023 at 15:21:29
Despite Paul The Esk's various attempts to lay out the dire state of our finances, it seems many on here don't quite understand quite how far up the creek of sh1t we are, sans paddle.

I believe the club has posted losses of £430 million over the last five years, and we've currently got a half-built stadium, an owner whose sugar daddy has been cuffed by sanctions, and investigations underway as to whether we have infringed FFP and Profit and Sustainability regulations - which could leave us prone to further punishments and plunge us firmly underwater.

The one thing the club can do to raise funds to pay down the debt is to sell players. Barring some minor miracle, like new owners coming in and writing out some hefty loan agreements, that is going to happen this summer, and probably several winters and summers to come.

Finding calmer waters is the order of the day right now, however that can happen; we don't have any real out-and-out jewels in our squad at this minute, so keeping hold of players is not the priority right now, so I suspect that our entire squad (especially any high earners) is for sale at a reasonable price, eg:

Pickford - £50+ million

Onana - £45+ million

Calvert-Lewin - £40+ million

McNeil - £30+ million

Branthwaite - £20+ million

Mykolenko - £15+ million

Iwobi - £15+ million

Gray - £10+ million

Holgate - £10+ million

Godfrey - £10+ million

Keane - £5+ million

Davies - £5+ million

The playing squad needs refreshing, and I expect us to only be able to re-invest a maximum of 50% of any funds that we generate - so we're talking a big negative net spend. And forget about the Gordon and Richarlison money; that's already plugging old shortfalls from previous years.

Paul Hewitt
61 Posted 30/05/2023 at 15:34:46
I'd rather trust the wife with the clubs finances than Moshiri. And that's saying something.
Joe McMahon
62 Posted 30/05/2023 at 15:35:57
We do all love Seamus, but surely he can only become part of the coaching staff if he gets the badges.

We cannot keep going down the route of ex players as they "Get Everton". Baines, Big Unsworth, Jeffers and Dunc. This cycle has to stop. The teary Bill romanticism has no place if we ever want Everton to compete again surely.

After years at Finch Farm look at the level Dunc and Unsworth are managing, and many wanted them to be Evertons manager.

Tony Abrahams
63 Posted 30/05/2023 at 15:37:55
These last two posts show me that Moshiri has got to be trying to sell Everton right now?

It would be near impossible to keep avoiding relegation with our present finances, especially with our presently silent owner and board. They don’t have a plan, and right now Everton need a real thought out plan, to get us out of the biggest mess our club has ever been in.

Kieran Kinsella
64 Posted 30/05/2023 at 15:43:40
Mike 4, Andrew 60

I can't see us selling DCL as I can't imagine anyone wanting to pay a significant fee for him and or pay substantial wages based on his past two seasons with us. There are three other players for example two of whom have been unemployed for months, the out is out of contract now who you could compare with him. Anyone wanting the other three avoids paying a transfer fee and yet as I said two of them have been unemployed for months.

Wilfried Zaha stats for last two seasons combined

Played 60 Scored 21 Assists 3

DCL stats for last two seasons combined:

Played 34 Scored 7 Assists 3

James Rodriguez stats for the last two seasons combined:

Played 38 Scored 11 Assists 11

Isco stats for last two seasons combined:

played 36 Scored 3 Assists 4

Steve Mink
65 Posted 30/05/2023 at 15:51:01
Some hugely optimistic valuations floating around here. Onana is only worth £40m if a team with that much cash is willing to buy him. Struggling to think who that might be.
Kieran Kinsella
66 Posted 30/05/2023 at 15:53:48

Also Tom at 5 million? He is out of contract so on a free

Jay Harris
67 Posted 30/05/2023 at 16:22:45
Good news on Seamus. With Yerry going, we need to keep a few leaders in the squad.

I am opposed to selling Onana who has great potential and is young, likewise with Branthwaite.

We need a clearout of the players who are not contributing and drawing wages: Mina, Davies, Vinagre, Coady, Townsend and the two reserve keepers all have contracts expiring in the summer.

We should move on Maupay, Gomes, Gbamin, Nkonkou, Dele Alli, Virginia, Holgate, Godfrey and Keane while reintegrating Cannon and Mills back into the squad.

That should generate around £40 to 50M – enough to buy a striker and a full back.

Then we should look at loans as backup to the squad to cover key positions.

Gary Brown
68 Posted 30/05/2023 at 16:38:18
Alan @67,

I've been seething at Gbamin agent too. His client failed here, got nicked for drunk-driving (Gobshite) and should show some respect regardless.

However, the Gordon article “I wasn't fit enough for Newcastle” is utterly mind-boggling. Don't know whether to laugh at that blonde-haired gimp not being “on it” about fitness being needed, or cry at the fact our club were lacking those standards.

It's probably been a problem ever since Moyes went. Half-arsed footballers with half-arsed fitness. It's the one thing Dyche has changed and the reason we've stayed up. Likely the reason the squad rebelled against Rafa (even though he was a Gobshite too).

I've been saying that I'd prefer us to buy football players and look for a football playing manager….but without fitness levels being “top level”, nothing else will matter. Words this week from Dyche around “Pace Power and Energy” is what we need.

Happy to admit being wrong. We can add the football playing manager later. Maybe have same impact Bobby did after Moyes. For now, get the lazy ones fit Sean-olotti, and run out anyone who fails those bleeps you love.


Andrew Keatley
69 Posted 30/05/2023 at 17:06:53
Steve (65) – I think there are several teams already looking at Onana at that price; he is highly-rated and possesses a rare physicality. I expect him to leave this summer but reckon we will make a small profit on him.

Kieran (66) – You are right. I am not sure if there is a clause that might see the club trigger a further year – or whether the club has offered him any kind of new contract (although hopefully not). He has been linked with Rangers I believe.

I love ToffeeWeb. You can write a post about how the lie of the land is essentially wildfire right out to the horizon, and the responses are about how I've priced up our fire-sale list. 🤣

Neil Lawson
70 Posted 30/05/2023 at 17:09:55
The fun now starts. We will be linked with Tom, Dick and every foreign Harry and be unable afford 90% of them. 95% of them wouldn't be so daft as to sign anyway.

It would be great to think that we can bring some decent quality players in under the radar and not pay silly money. Players who want to play for us and jump at the chance. Add to them the talented youngsters.

Mina was immense over the last few games and made a huge difference. Surely Branthwaite is the perfect replacement (although not so nasty and streetwise).

So Dyche et al, please go out and source some proper players with an attitude akin to Seamus and at least a modicum of skill.

Kieran Kinsella
71 Posted 30/05/2023 at 17:25:31
Quite a number of out of contract players floating around that could bolster our ranks if not necessarily greatly improve the team.

Couffal, Willian, even Ashley Barnes if Dyche wants to do a Rondon. At the higher end of the spectrum, you've got Tielemans, Zaha, Lionel Messi…

Ian Hollingworth
73 Posted 30/05/2023 at 18:30:32
Here we go, same as every year, discussing the same old suspects in teary Bill style.

We need big change in our club; otherwise, we all know to expect pretty much the same as the last couple of years.
Mark Ryan
74 Posted 30/05/2023 at 18:42:40
I'm expecting absolutely nowt in the way of transfers. I'm expecting less from the board.

I'm not going to believe any transfer hype, like this mornings one Everton linked with a striker "Beto" from Udinese, £30 million! What? 30 million old Players No 6 cards...

We haven't a pot to piss in and so roll on the buyout or buy-in, that's all I'm interested in. When is Kenwright getting his cards? Nothing less will interest me.

Christy Ring
75 Posted 30/05/2023 at 19:22:08
I have to laugh at some of the comments about Seamus, and we should forget about loyalty? Was he not one of our best players this season?

We need another right back, and not depend on Seamus, because Patterson is too injury-prone.

Jonathan Oppenheimer
76 Posted 30/05/2023 at 19:26:12
Obviously no-one knows how dire the financial situation, nor just whether we're allowed to spend, but whether Moshiri would spend given the stadium needing to be built.

Given those unknowns, I too wouldn't be surprised if we don't bring in anyone via transfers. Maybe a couple players on free transfers.

Quite possibly it all depends on whether we can recoup any money on Dele Alli, Gbamin, Gomes, Holgate, Keane, etc. Most likely we'll be giving away players to get them off the wage bill. Like others, it would be great to have Mina back but I don't see it happening, because someone else will pay him more.

If you could promise me we'd have a mostly injury-free season, at least for Calvert-Lewin and our other top 5 or so players, and we brought in some cover at left-back, I think with Dyche we'd be comfortably mid-table without any new signings.

It wouldn't be ideal, and it'd be better if we were making 1-2 shrewd low-cost signings while integrating some younger players at the same time, but I wouldn't fret. The problem is an injury to Calvert-Lewin, Mykolenko, Tarkowski, Pickford, Garner, Doucouré, and we're in a world of shit again. And so we all fret.

Let's just hope Dyche doesn't walk if he gets no money to spend.

Kieran Kinsella
77 Posted 30/05/2023 at 19:35:48

I agree. Ruthless clubs can cut 34-year-old veterans because – guess what? They have other good players.

The fact is that, regardless of his age, his serious leg break and anything else, Seamus is the best right-back and one of the best defenders we have at the club.

Mark Ryan
78 Posted 30/05/2023 at 19:58:48
James Garner's acquisition shows you that you don't need millions.

Garner was excellent on Sunday and is an example of why you don't need to spunk good money after bad. Just be shrewd.

Dale Self
79 Posted 30/05/2023 at 20:29:54
Mark, I think all of us recognize Garner and McNeil as long term investments that will build us up. Mike Gaynes was his biggest fan coming in and it took me a few games to see all he was doing to thread things together. Both of those players exhibit what we all admire in footballers: never-quit spirit and a real pride in work rate.

As Kieran notes, there are some decent loan prospects. If we can get the dude who will be captain at central defensive midfield, maybe we could risk a flair player in the locker room. Get the locker room sorted and we could take a real chance if the money is there.

Phil (Kelsall) Roberts
80 Posted 30/05/2023 at 20:32:41
Tarkowski, Keane and Coady are all 30. I think we can only keep one of them.

Branthwaite has had good reviews in the Netherlands and is just 20. He is the next John Stones.

Holgate is nearly 27 and Godfrey 26 so they should be the ones for certain to be offered around. Sadly both have 2 years left on their contracts so we perhaps need to bite the bullet and almost offer them on a free to get the wages off the books.

Andrew Keatley
81 Posted 30/05/2023 at 20:34:27
Mark (79) - “Just be shrewd?”

Inspired. Now can you go into the changing room and tell the players “just to win.”

Bill Hawker
82 Posted 30/05/2023 at 20:57:32
The money for Onana needs to be stupid... £60M+. If they're going to come in with bids around £25-30M, then keep him. Normally I'd say no to Coleman but due to the financial shape we're in, if we can get him for a bit lower wages and to back up Patterson, it makes sense.

We've got a lot of work to do at the striker position and we certainly need one if not two quality players up top. That should be our priority and certainly not to be left until the last minute.

Mark Ryan
83 Posted 30/05/2023 at 21:19:32
Andrew @ 81

Be shrewd in the market. Its not difficult. Manage expectation for both the current playing staff and supporters alike. This summer we are going to be linked with 30 Betos

Sky Sports news tonight " Everton remain interested in Udinese striker Beto. Udinese want £30 million for the striker"


I'm just saying we need to manage everyone's expectation.

We have NO money. We need to be very frugal and very shrewd BUT bargains are there to be had and we can still be a force in the league without wasting millions

We will not and cannot make marquee signings for the foreseeable. We have to digest that fact and be realistic BUT we can still be competitive and I think we'll surprise ourselves next season. I think we've all learned a lot about how a club can be ruined. We will move forward from this

Christy Ring
84 Posted 30/05/2023 at 21:37:29
We should try and get rid of a few big earners who are bleeding us dry, and not in our plans. Mina was on over £100k, Gbamin, Deli Ali, and Gomes have a year left, and on massive wages, they'll probably run down they're contract, because no one will offer them the same terms, as previous players like Schneiderlin did. This all stems back to when Koeman brought in average players on massive money, we're still paying the price.
Andrew Keatley
85 Posted 30/05/2023 at 23:02:07
Mark (83) - Did you not bother to read any of the earlier posts? If not then scroll up a bit and you’ll realise you’ve decided to argue with someone who thinks largely the same way that you do.

Not the “shrewd” thing though; that is absolute hot mess tumbling out the back-end of a horse. Recruitment is hard. It always has been. You say “it’s not difficult” yet I’d imagine that the fans of Leicester, Southampton and Leeds are all feeling that their recruitment - much of which was jealously eyed-up by the resident transfer specialists on this site - turned out to be a lot less successful than they might have initially thought.

The problem with hindsight is that it makes the ambiguous seem obvious.

Mark Ryan
86 Posted 30/05/2023 at 23:12:40
I'm not arguing with anyone. Recruitment is easier if you lower your sights. We need to stop looking at the multi million pound players. These highly priced players who demand heavy wages are what have ruined us. I'm stating the bleeding obvious I'm very aware of that. This isn't about using hindsight, I'm advocating frugality. Lower the sights and look in the Championship. Let's build slowly and stop trying year on year to compete with the top 6. Just build slowly and we'll get there over time. Put a stop to this relegation merry go round
Neil Tyrrell
87 Posted 30/05/2023 at 23:37:57
Despite being written off as past it many times over the last few seasons, Seamus can still do the job. With apparently no money to spend, between him and Patterson we might be ok at right back next season. Could end up the same as Sunday with no fit full backs in the end but if we're only shopping in the bargain basement for any signings at all, RB shouldn't be a priority.

Some great ideas in this thread about shifting players but seriously, who's buying Delle Alli this summer? Nobody. If Thelwell can get 50 quid for him he's a miracle worker. DCL's value is at an all-time low given his injury problems, it's either move him for relative peanuts or keep him and hope he miraculously becomes robust. The latter is probably the better option unless there's someone else out there just as stupid as whoever thought Delle was a good risk, who'd spend big on him. I'm skeptical that such a person/club exists. Iwobi wouldn't fetch 25 million in a Hollywood fantasy movie. Holgate and Kean aren't bringing in big fees and nobody is buying Maupay.

I feel we'll be buying on the relative cheap and hoping for the best. Dyche turned McNeil into an important player, much less so Maupay. Hopefully Dyche is still here and given a big say in who we sign, he will know the kind of player he can use.

Don Alexander
88 Posted 31/05/2023 at 01:02:35
"Saint" Seamus or not (and I'm a massive Seamus fan), the fact that we're still courting him, way past his best, further speaks volumes on the ineptitude of the powers-that-continue-to-destroy-us.

On a positive note, Kenwright's much vaunted decades-long world-wide search for a viable funding source (now that he's ruined Moshiri) has now extended all the way to Ormskirk, to an Everton fan.

Answers on a postcard please - what could possibly be better?

Mike Gaynes
89 Posted 31/05/2023 at 01:41:48
Kenwright has ruined Moshiri?


Lester Yip
90 Posted 31/05/2023 at 02:14:53
I came across with a documentary about jade trader. The trader sell jade ore with a tiny "window" as show point opened on rock face. People can shine a light through it and observe it colour and clarity. Then bidders assess and bid based on that. Why the trader does not cut the whole thing open? Or why he does not turn it into a beautiful jewellery then sell for a bigger profit?

Thelwell had identified a good ore in Onana. He bought it and open a small window and show case it on a bigger stage (EPL). Now the one who has money, the skills to open the ore and turn it into a jewel can do the next step. Do we have the skill, tools and right environment to turn it from ore to jewel? What would a ball playing CB like John Stones like if he's still playing for us? Would we be able to fetch $80m for him now? $40m that we sold to ManCity or less?

As much as I'd love to see the younger players grow and become classy players one day, it pained me to say that we are not the team has the luxury for them to make mistakes. What we concede at the back we cannot make it up from the front.

How can we progress this way? We can't. We wheel and deal for profits and wait for the stadium to be completed. Until we consistently back in top 10, we can then think about next step. Moyes had brought us to such place before for the next phase when we consistently around 6th -8th. But Mosh bottled up big time when trying to move us up further.

Ed Prytherch
91 Posted 31/05/2023 at 03:14:40
Don 88 - Ormskirk? It might be someone I grew up with,
Derek Knox
92 Posted 31/05/2023 at 08:40:17
Ed & Don, go on spill ! :-)
Jerome Shields
93 Posted 31/05/2023 at 08:44:44
Seamus, you need to quit.

I know you won't.

Christopher Timmins
94 Posted 31/05/2023 at 08:59:29
Massive fan of the captain but I hope that a year's extension results in no more than 12 or so games as back up to Patterson.

The work load trust upon him during the season just ended was immense given his age and we can be thankful that he was able to deal with it and prove to be one of our better performers.

If the sole criteria for a contract extension is one's performance levels in the previous season, then he has earned it.

Brent Stephens
95 Posted 31/05/2023 at 09:05:47
Ormskirk - AJ Bell founder, Andy Bell?
Stephen Davies
96 Posted 31/05/2023 at 09:06:58
Yes, Blythe Capital is owned by Andrew Bell, founder of investment platform AJ Bell. He is believed to be an Everton season-ticket holder.

It is understood Blythe are acting as the broker and are not putting in cash themselves.

Andrew Ellams
97 Posted 31/05/2023 at 09:11:49
Mark @ 86, exactly. We need to adopt the Brighton model. How many of their squad cost less than Maupay?
Brent Stephens
98 Posted 31/05/2023 at 09:16:05
Stephen, we've had our blithe spirit, our farce. Now for Blythe Spirit?
Brent Stephens
99 Posted 31/05/2023 at 09:16:56
And we can sipp at the cup of wealth?
Derek Knox
100 Posted 31/05/2023 at 10:41:30
Brent @ 95, Ah, AJ ! That rings something ? :-)
John Otway
101 Posted 31/05/2023 at 10:43:43
Brent. I'S A howling at that!
Steve Shave
102 Posted 31/05/2023 at 11:15:44
Andrew @97 "we need to adopt the Brighton model" is a bit like saying we need to play like Arsenal or City. I wish we could adopt the Brighton model bud, we would need competent people running the club and a frickin' plan, we have neither.

Jon Harding
103 Posted 31/05/2023 at 11:32:38
Hi Derek @100
Is it safe to mention a TW golf day for 2023 now we're staying up?
Jon Harding
104 Posted 31/05/2023 at 11:32:38
Hi Derek @100
Is it safe to mention a TW golf day for 2023 now we're staying up?
Paul Cherrington
105 Posted 31/05/2023 at 11:38:08
I think this is a sensible move considering we would only have 1 decent right-back who seems a bit injury prone on the books in Patterson if Seamus left. Keeping Seamus on would also mean we could put off signing another right back until next summer and give us more cash to spend in other areas.

When it comes to Pickford, I think we will have to sell in order to fund a squad rebuild. It's not ideal but I think him & Onana will go as they will bring in the most money. If we can use the funds this generates to not only bring in a quality replacement keeper but also more quality in other key positions where are lacking numbers/decent players (like left back and striker) then it is a necessary evil I think.

Christopher Timmins
106 Posted 31/05/2023 at 12:11:46
Paul # 105

If your analysis is correct and I think that it might be, it does make you wonder where the funds generated from the Anthony Gordon sale in late January went to?

I have always thought that Gordon had to be sold and have not seen any evidence to the contrary since he moved.

Gary Brown
107 Posted 31/05/2023 at 12:23:02
Protest match announced for Saturday. 11am at Liver Building.
Brent Stephens
108 Posted 31/05/2023 at 12:34:23
Gary - match or march?
Andy Crooks
109 Posted 31/05/2023 at 12:49:10
Andrew @85. No doubt "shrewd" buys look better with hindsight. What would be a good start would be to cut out insane buys. Tosun is one example, an even better one is Maupay. I doubt there is a single Blue who thought when we signed him" that's a shrewd move". It wasn't even a case of taking a gamble on his fitness( he's fit as fuck). We signed a striker who doesn't score goals, not a striker on a bad run, just a non scoring goal scorer.
Over a number of years there have been decisions so insane, so jaw droppingly awful that they would, in normal life, render the maker of them bared from leaving the house without a responsible adult in attendance.
Not in the world of Everton. Step one of our rebuild should be to stop doing really stupid stuff.

Martin Mason
110 Posted 31/05/2023 at 13:03:04
Protest March? Is that really what we need at this moment?
Brent Stephens
111 Posted 31/05/2023 at 13:07:50
Gary #107 - what time does it all kick off?
Barry Hesketh
112 Posted 31/05/2023 at 13:15:06
We shouldn't need to be having protest marches at all, given the state of the club, as those in power should have stepped aside already. What we can't do is allow the close season to drift away, without some meaningful movement within the club. Every second counts and any dithering will hinder our chances for next season, I would advocate waiting until after the European finals are complete, before demonstrating the dissatisfaction of the fans, via marching etc. Surely, it can't be possible for the owner to try and carry on without any changes in the structure of the club, but he owns it and only he can make those changes.
Matt Traynor
113 Posted 31/05/2023 at 13:21:13
"Take a shit or get off the pot" deadline on Coady is apparently today? Any announcement expected? Along, anyone see Onana's social media post? "I'm out" - that for summer?
John Raftery
114 Posted 31/05/2023 at 13:36:36
Seamus Coleman is still the best full back at the club, head and shoulders above the rest. Age is just a number.

Given the dire financial circumstances we cannot afford a transfer fee for any player unless there are sales to match. That is why £4.5m for Coady looks unrealistic. He is a leader on and off the pitch but I am not convinced his play is a significant upgrade on Michael Keane, especially in a back four. He was dropped by Dyche after Buendía left him for dead in the Villa game at Goodison.

I imagine any offers for any of our players will be considered.

Andrew Keatley
115 Posted 31/05/2023 at 13:38:20
Martin (110) - What's the alternative; waiting patiently for the board to do the noble thing? That isn't going to happen - there isn't a streak of nobility anywhere to be found right now. In fact, we've suffered a series of ill-judged decisions and statements (often right on the eve of massive games) that are entirely designed to exonerate Kenwright and his cohorts from any blame while blithely suggesting that everything is in hand. It's laughable the amount of disrespect they have for us.

Worse than that - as hopefully we all know and recognise - the board decided to throw the entire fan-base under the bus during HeadlockGate. In the absence of any police investigation, or evidence, or personal testimony, what conclusion are we supposed to draw? Well here's my conclusion; they decided to invent/inflate a threat against their safety, then ran to the press rather than the police in order for it to spread quickly, all so they could excuse themselves from having to sit in their seats and face the scorn that they well and truly deserve. And even if there is a kernel of truth in the allegation, and DBB was rough-housed in some way, was their course of action in the best interests of the club? No. It put the club under the microscope of the press and TV pundits in such a negative way - and the decision to do that was made by the custodians of the club, the people who are supposed to be taking care of the club. So why did they do it? It was a calculated operation in order to divert attention away from themselves, and reconstitute themselves in the role of victim. It's right out of the Donald Trump playbook, and it marks them all out for what they are. Cowards. Turncoats. Rats.

If I was able to be part of the march then I would be there. I hope those who can physically make it will turn out. Enough is enough. Change needs to come, and we cannot be quiet about this. Or patient. It needs to happen now. And if this sort of disquiet and disenchantment can expedite Moshiri to sell, and in doing so resign Kenwright to the annals of history, then it'll be a rich form of justice.

Christy Ring
116 Posted 31/05/2023 at 13:49:50
Barry @112 Completely agree in the sense, if they love the club as they say they do, try not be bigger than the club and resign.
Don & Jerome 88 & 93 Seamus was superb this season, so how is he past his best, and why retire when he’s still probably the best full back we have. Milner is gone to Brighton from Liverpool what age is he??
Mark Ryan
117 Posted 31/05/2023 at 14:06:46
I can understand people thinking that protesting whilst Moshiri is getting investment might be distracting to potential buyers but I suspect that the new investors know all about the upheaval. The board have seen to that by blaming the fans. It's a silly game that Kenwright has played. Sharp disappointingly has gone along with it. If we, the fan base sit on our hands we play onto Kenwrights hands. The new investors or any potential buyer needs to know that the entire fan base wants a brand new board. If Moshiri stays he has to now realise that his board have been woeful and they need replacing, ALL of them. Not an easy summer ahead but we cannot have a board that doesn't attend games. It is a disgrace having an absent board. It shows them to be exactly what they are, clueless cowards who insult our intelligence.
Tony Shelby
118 Posted 31/05/2023 at 14:09:55
Treasury’s sanctions police ‘reviewing’ finances of Everton FC owner, Guardian understands

Farhad Moshiri reportedly a ‘person of interest’ at special unit over links to sanctioned oligarch Alisher Usman


Martin Mason
119 Posted 31/05/2023 at 16:19:49
With regard to protest I'd wait and see what is going to happen in the short to medium term (2 months) to see exactly what may or may not be happening wrt to ownership and financing. The reason is that will enable us to see what best there is to protest about and how best to frame the protest. Having a protest on Saturday without this understanding and planning is like something that the board would do. I'm not saying that there is no place for protest of this type only that they often end up looking amateurish and reflect badly on those protesting. What do we want to achieve? is it reasonable and achievable.
I'd like to see political style adverts placed that say exactly what we are protesting about and what we want. How about inviting old legends to marches and meetings. There should be financing to spread the load around, a protest committee maybe but one thing for sure, BK and his cronies will laugh off badly organised protests against him. The facts over what has happened at Everton in the last 10 years should be enough to put them in prison never mind out of the club.
Derek Knox
120 Posted 31/05/2023 at 22:06:52
Tony @ 118, Yes I read that too, and although it may be worrying and have implications, again it is another case of Financial Mismanagement, and Mismanagement overall, with none of it involving the Fans. Yet we will ultimately suffer, if sanctions etc are imposed.

Punish the Guilty ?

Not the Innocent !

Don Alexander
121 Posted 31/05/2023 at 22:47:42
Mike (#89), fair comment - I should've said "rinsed" instead of "ruined".
Paul Cherrington
122 Posted 01/06/2023 at 10:32:07
Christopher @106,

I think you are correct re the Gordon sale – I always assumed the money that came in was all used to pay off debts to keep us within the rules. Although with all that still rumbling on, I'm not sure if it worked or not.

I guess I am assuming that, if we sell a couple of our big stars in summer for good money, we might have a decent chunk of it left to sign some new players, even if a bit also has to go to the bank

Could well be wrong though, it's a funny old game as they say and anything could happen.

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