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Marine 4 - 0 Everton U18s

For the second season running, Marine have dumped Everton U18s out of the Liverpool Senior Cup after scoring 4 unanswered goals.

It was another opportunity for new signing Kingsford Boakye.

Everton U18s: G Pickford, O Samuels-Smith, Van Schoor (Thomas), Moonan (Davis), Welch, Jones, Heath, Bates, Ebere, Armstrong (Foster), Boakye (Beaumont-Clark).

Subs not Used: Lukjanciks.


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Dave Abrahams
1 Posted 13/02/2024 at 21:30:12
Tonight, the U18s were losing 4-0 at Marine in the quarter-final of the Liverpool Senior Cup.

They lost 4-1 at the same stage to the same club last year.

I know at least one ToffeeWebber will be happy with the result and happier still if Marine got a good attendance tonight to go with the win.

Dave Abrahams
2 Posted 13/02/2024 at 22:04:23
The attendance was thought to be around 1,400, which I think is pretty good for Marine.
Peter Mills
3 Posted 13/02/2024 at 22:48:00
The attendance was 1,445, Dave. It included me, my son and two grandsons. The excellent attendance was helped by very sensible admission prices, £6 for an adult, £4 for a concession, £1 for those under 11. Very smart during half-term.

There was plenty of beer being consumed before and during the game, much of it in 2-pint tumblers, so the club's coffers will have done well.

The kickoff was delayed for 15-20 minutes. I was told the Everton team bus did not turn up and some players had to make their own way to College Road. The mini-bus from Finch Farm, including the kit, was then delayed on the M57. I hope this isn't a portent of how the first team will have to travel in the coming years.

I don't particularly follow the fortunes of the younger Everton teams, so did not recognise many names. They were up against what is currently a formidable Marine team which is in a playoff position in their league, scoring plenty of goals. It showed.

After a cagey first half hour, Marine began to realise they were the superior team and scored 2 in a minute. The other 2 goals came after the break, and Everton were rather flattered by the final scoreline.

Having gone to the game fairly relaxed, I became quite glum at the poverty of the Blues' performance. I was thinking that, if we are given a transfer ban, the club would be in trouble if we had to rely on these lads in a season or two.

I learned towards the end of the game that Everton's team was very young, so their display was perhaps understandable and excusable. I would still have liked to see a bit more coherent style of play, and more resilience and tenacity.

For the Mariners, however, it is a move into the semifinals and a step nearer to retaining the beautiful old trophy.

Peter Mills
4 Posted 13/02/2024 at 22:53:58
Liverpool County FA Senior Cup Quarter Final
Tuesday 13 February 2024
Kick-off: 7:30 pm
The Marine Travel Arena

Marine: 1 Luke Hutchinson, 2 Scott Butler,
3 Matty Waters, 4 Harvey Gregson, 5 Chris Doyle,
6 Josh Wardle, 7 Finlay Sinclair-Smith,
8 Louis White, 9 Bobby Grant, 10 Sol Solomon,
11 Owen Robinson

Subs: 12 Tom Pratt, 13 Richard Cowderoy,
14 Jon Routledge, 15 Joseph Ferguson,
16 Liam Nolan, 17 Chris Happi-Fankam.

Everton: 1 George Pickford, 2 Odin Samuels-Smith, 3 Josh Van Schoor, 4 Brad Moonan, 5 Reece Welsh, 6 Edward Jones, 7 Isaac Heath, 8 Callum Bates, 9 Coby Ebere, 10 Harrison Armstrong, 11 Kingsford Boakye.

Subs: 12 Douglas Lukjanciks, 14 Aled Thomas, 15 Luca Davis, 16 Harvey Foster, 17 Jacob Beaumont-Clark

Mike Gaynes
5 Posted 14/02/2024 at 02:20:47
Pete, thanks for the account!

(I wore my Marine shirt to the gym today.)

Danny O’Neill
6 Posted 14/02/2024 at 07:14:25
That's great, Peter.

Supporting grass roots and local teams. The result at youth level isn't important. It's about development and learning. There is my scratched record moment.

Michael Kenrick
7 Posted 14/02/2024 at 11:33:30
Sad demise at our first hurdle in the grand old competition, steeped in history… mostly our history!

Everton have won the Liverpool Senior Cup more times than any other club — 46!!!

The last time Everton won was in 2015-16, when they beat Prescot Cables in the final.

Dave Abrahams
8 Posted 14/02/2024 at 12:44:48
One of my first games to watch Everton in the Liverpool Senior Cup was in the early fifties and Everton beat Tranmere Rovers 4-1, I think, after the game Ted Sagar was presented with a cheque for long service, £1,000 I believe.

Another Liverpool Senior Cup many will remember was the 4-3 win over Liverpool in the final at Goodison, when Ian St John scored a hat trick on his debut for Liverpool around 1961.

The Liverpool Senior Cup trophy is a wonderful work of art, a large gold cup that puts the FA Cup to shame.

Brian Harrison
9 Posted 14/02/2024 at 13:06:41
Danny @6,

While you are right that the main job of coaches at youth level is to produce footballers for the first team, I think, in any sport at any level, results matter.

I have to say it seems all our junior sides are struggling, now that's either because our coaches aren't good enough or our recruitment is poor.

I see our neighbours producing quality youngsters from their academy and Man City also produce top quality local lads.

James Hughes
10 Posted 14/02/2024 at 13:10:49
I might be a bit wrong here but did our U18s play Marine's first team? Was it literally men against boys?

Just tha,t if we cannot take the Liverpool Senior Cup seriously and field a proper team, then we aren't instilling a winning mentality. Especially if we can't even turn up on time.

Kevin Prytherch
11 Posted 14/02/2024 at 13:59:02
Brian 9,

Interestingly Man City are bottom of the U23 table but continue to produce good youngsters, so do results matter?

They are 3rd in the U18 table though.

Robert Tressell
12 Posted 14/02/2024 at 14:17:38
Kevin, City will inevitably win lots of youth trophies etc as time goes on but all they care about is producing Champions League and Premier League quality players. These they can keep in the first team or sell to help them manage financial constraints.

I would care a lot less about our U18 results if I could see quality players coming through.

Michael Kenrick
13 Posted 14/02/2024 at 14:58:13

I think we'd need Peter Mills or another Mariner to confirm those he listed @4 were the first team, but I believe so. Do they even have reserves or junior teams? I don't know.

Over the years, we have transitioned from orginally having the Everton first team play in the Liverpool Senior Cup and the Lancashire Senior Cup, as I think Dave's post @8 suggests. Then, sometime in the 1990s (perhaps earlier), it became the Reserves team fulfilling these fixtures. At some point, Everton were given a bye to the quarter-final stage of each competition. There may be an interesting story behind that one!

The Reserves then became Under-21s or Under-23s but still remained competitive with their local rivals. And by 2017 or thereabouts, it was up to the Under-18s to be the local flag bearers for the great old traditions of the club in these storied local competitions. And yes, since that point, I don't think we've won either.

And at some point along the way, our hated cousins just dropped out completely, not even entering the competition. Liverpool not entering the Liverpool Senior Cup? That's showing respect for yer roots, init!

Brian Harrison
14 Posted 14/02/2024 at 15:18:29
Kevin @11

Last year, Man City won the U21 and U18 titles, but it's the quality they produce and have got in their young squads. Foden and Palmer are two of the best midfield players in the country and still very young.

They also have Rico Lewis and Oscar Bobb who have both played for Man City this season. Now I agree it's unfair to class us with City at Premier League level, but they produce homegrown kids of a far superior quality than we can of late.

Likewise, our neighbours are able to produce youngsters of a very high quality, year on year. Man Utd, since the arrival of Matt Busby, have kept on producing very good youngsters and most again are local lads.

Peter Mills
15 Posted 14/02/2024 at 16:18:05
Michael#13, it was Marine’s first team, with the odd absentee. The side is a combination of decent young players and seasoned campaigners.

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