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2 Posted 01/11/2024 at 14:43:07
I think Dyche will stick with Young but I hope Branthwaite comes in for Keane and Mangala gets a chance to partner Gueye. This will hopefully make the midfield even tougher to play against.
It will be a hard game tomorrow, I just hope we can get on top for a decent portion of the game. Most teams seem to be weak at the back so taking the game to them is so obvious!
3 Posted 01/11/2024 at 15:07:28
I've asked before, but never got an answer, whether Branthwaite could be paired with Keane so Tarkowski can be given a spell on the bench?Keane is another one in form and shouldn't be dropped.
I hope though, that Doucoure is benched and Lindstrøm is given a chance at No 10 tomorrow.
4 Posted 01/11/2024 at 15:34:28
Jerome told us for years that the players ran Finch Farm, but now he's saying that if anyone questions the manager's tactics, they won't be picked, so if this is true then at least we are becoming more professional.
Everton only attack when the opposition have quiet periods is also debatable, but I suppose I'm going off the last Merseyside derby, when the only time Liverpool really got into the game was when Everton took their foot off the pedal.
Something that I don't think you can argue about is that Everton rarely try and impose themselves enough on the opposition. If this doesn't change, then more and more people are definitely going to start calling for the manager's head.
5 Posted 01/11/2024 at 16:06:12
It's the players that must toe the line. Not Finch Farm, Tony, they are carrying on the same as usual.
I am not criticizing Dyche, his remit is to stay in the Premier League. With a limited squad, he is working to a formula that does not give the opposition any advantage.
They know that they will have to work to get a result against Everton, both home and away, without actually being able to work out Everton's tactics and style. Gone are the days of open attacking football at Everton. Dyche knows they will get caught out and then the pressure is on him.
Any team in the Premier League with predictable tactics and style without the right players will be taken to the cleaners by all the clubs in the Premier League. These guys know their football.
If Everton went gung-ho and won, the next game they will be sorted out if they try it again.
Dyche picks the players in the positions and gets on with it. It is as simple as that. I like to compare the football teams I played for. Often the team talk was pretty unrepeatable.
Of course I would like style, tactics and the beautiful football. The thing is, I still think that there is a core in Everton capable of it, but the reality is that the manager is paid to stay in the Premier League and he is doing his job.
Sorry, Tony: I do respect your football knowledge as always and value it. Just as Jim is very right with his suggestions.
6 Posted 01/11/2024 at 16:54:44
Dyche without doubt is the boss, he likes his experienced players, he has a way of playing and thinks they are best at doing what he wants.
My point is that we can perform better if he picks what I consider the best eleven.
Tony, I totally agree that Everton rarely try to impose themselves on the opposition and, especially at home, this is a massive concern. Playing Gueye and Mangala together would help us to get a grip on a game in my opinion, and get more possession to players like Ndiaye and McNeil to create. I thought our goal against Fulham demonstrated this perfectly.
7 Posted 01/11/2024 at 17:47:04
I have always thought the players had too much power and have downed tools on a few managers, Jerome, and this is something I think you have usually confirmed until now mate.
You're now saying that Dyche is the boss, so that's definitely an improvement if it's true, is what I was trying to say.
8 Posted 01/11/2024 at 17:47:10
I also agree re Jarrad. It's a pity Michael Keane has to face the chop given his recent form but you have to be realistic and play your best players.
McNeil is a bit of an enigma for me. He has goalscoring ability and creative talent but too often gets lost across the middle of the pitch and does not impose himself on the game enough for his position.
I would like to see Ndiaye or Lindstrøm tried out there for a few games.
As for the full-back position, I watched Wan-Bissaka recently and the lad was outstanding and at £15M a snip. I think we will regret not picking him up.
9 Posted 01/11/2024 at 18:40:23
Finch Farm could dictate attitude and effort, particularly under Kenwright & Co. But they never dictated tactics, but could influence their implementation and have done.
I think that has waned a bit with the passing of Kenwright's parentalism. Though I think the the rest and recovery regime of Medical Services is not up to the demands of the Premier League.
Both Tony and Jim are right about the more progressive approach, but I think Dyche will stick to plan A with the players he wants.
Everton have to climb up the table and, with another possible commission, I can't see him change. It's hard work and head down till the end of the season. That's Dyche.
Who knows — when The Friedkin Group are up to their neck trying to sort out the stadium and Everton's finances, they may just want a manager like Dyche to keep them in the Premier League.
10 Posted 01/11/2024 at 18:58:09
We have scored more goals than Man Utd and Newcastle Utd plus a few others. If Calvert-Lewin had converted his chances, it would look even better… so we must be doing something right going forward.
I think, for the quality of the players we have, we are doing okay; with a fit full squad we could finish 10th to 12th.
11 Posted 01/11/2024 at 21:43:01
12 Posted 03/11/2024 at 10:50:01
After that South Coast game you see what I mean.Dyche actually with his substitutions and lack of them actually double down on his approach.
Your suggestions would have won that game.Dyche is now not far ahead to absorb a Commission deduction and could select the same starting team next week.
He nearly got the percentages right for a draw. So he will probably try to do the same.
Sorry to be so negative, but that's what I see with Dyche.I wish it were different.
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13 Posted 03/11/2024 at 11:05:00
Playing Young, his former Watford colleague, over Coleman or Patterson, and Keane over Branthwaite, another of his former Burnley favourites. Might be his way of giving people he knows as much game time as possible, knowing both won't be playing Premier League football beyond this season. His way of saying 'Fuck You' to the football club.
14 Posted 03/11/2024 at 11:59:36
If we had a player who could put the ball in the net on a regular basis, it would make a difference, sadly the team misses far to many.
15 Posted 03/11/2024 at 12:45:32
I agree.Even Ancelotti had to dumb down. Whilst Dyche's brand of football will probably get enough points over the season to be in a position to survive a relegation dogfight , a more positive midfield, with players he does have, which is a more fine tuning than change , could have won the game and put Everton in a better position going forward into more difficult fixtures. Jim and Tony on this thread think it is necessary.They have watched Everton for years and are normally right.
Not bring Branthwaite on as a Sub shows how determine Dyche is to stay on message.The two Centre Backs were on yellows.
16 Posted 03/11/2024 at 23:30:29
I don't think you are being negative whatsoever. You are just saying how it is.
Southampton were there for the taking and more positivity at the start would have seen us win the game.
Young was poor. One nice but easy pass shouldn't keep him in the team, Seamus would do a few of them in a game.
Not playing Branthwaite is idiotic.
But Beto's goal did my head in. VAR spent 5 mins finding a way to disallow it. The linesman thought it was good, the ref did, and the original TV picture did. Then came the dodgy blurred VAR photo.
Just another days work for this dodgy league. Sorry for my negativity!
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1 Posted 01/11/2024 at 13:46:30
So players are picked in their positions to do a defending job first of all. The midfield is more about harrying or helping the defence than getting forward. Forwards first of all do a defending job and the likes of McNeil, Doucoure and Keane beyond that are selected for shooting ability.
Everton only attack when the opposition have quiet periods in the game and give ground. If the opposition lay off, like Ipswich, Everton are more in the game.
Jim, what you are talking about is good tactical play with support. Dyche's approach is practical. He picks the players on the training ground and lets them get on with the same on matchday. That is why the substitutions bar injuries are so late.
The advantage is the opposition is faced with an Everton side with no style of play and no tactics. A player that queries tactics or develops an attitude will not be selected. They need to work hard, do what is required of them, and shut up – glad to take part in a game.