Tottenham Hotspur 4 - 0 Everton

As always, out early for the morning walk. I wasn’t sure who was walking who, so let them roam as I thought about the match, trying to maintain my optimism that we could get something. Drenched in the rain.

Onto London and N17. Finding the place Rob had sent me was a challenge. I walked in circles until I found it, I must have put a mile or two, or steps to coin a modern phrase. I went in and there was a good mix of Everton and Tottenham supporters mingling together, but I didn’t manage to catch Rob. Drenched again in the rain. My hair looked like I had been electrocuted!!

I made my way to the stadium and waited for Neil outside the away entrance. I was looking up and there were two tiers of very plush-looking corporate hospitality suites with people sat in actual restaurants having a meal. And that was just above the entrance to the away section. I’m sure it was the same all around the stadium. I was sat on a metal bench with a bottle of Pepsi that I picked up from Sainsbury's around the corner.

Neil met me and we made our way in. A strange occurrence as we approached the stadium entrance. Some young lad was shouting at stewards and threw his chips onto the floor, which I thought I was going to stand on, but managed to avoid. We just moved on.

Into the ground and a lot of optimism and singing on the concourse.

Onto the players and performance. Or should I say lack of. There’s no getting away from it, we were dreadful, and it was a painful watch. Tottenham bossed the midfield with ease and battered our flanks, giving the full-backs a torrid time by stretching the pitch.

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I missed the first goal due to a call of nature. As an old friend of mine once advised me, when you get to a certain age, go when you get the chance.

Okay, 1-0 down, but if we decide to wake up, we’re still in it. Jordan makes two great early saves, but then has a brain fart, dithering on the ball. Son didn’t need asking twice and was straight on him for a simple tap-in.

Pickford's punting was frustrating and, on more than one occasion, he booted it straight back to the Tottenham keeper. When I got home, my son was commenting that he doesn’t do it for England, so he either doesn’t trust the players in front of him or is under instruction. I suspect the latter.

Tim Iroegbunam didn’t play well and if he’s going to challenge, don’t obviously push players in the back with both hands and give away free kicks.

Harrison ran around a lot without having much effect. He missed a good chance in the first half by smashing it rather than placing it.

McNeil kept running himself into channels and was often crowded out by two or three Tottenham players, but he didn’t really have many options.

As for Doucoure, I honestly turned to the young lads next to me when he got subbed and said that I didn’t realise he was on the pitch.

I’m sure many will disagree, but we did on occasion get into goal-scoring opportunities. But we were shot shy. No one took responsibility and opted to pass it somewhere else, which played into the Tottenham defence’s hands.

I’m not sure what is going on with Dominic Calvert-Lewin. He just didn’t look right. He kept giving the ball away, but wasn’t the only guilty party, most were in his company. He kept falling over, so something must have been wrong with his boots. And as some have said, he’s up there on his own and chasing his own flick-ons.

The two centre-backs again looked like they hadn’t played together and I suspect Tarkowski was playing with an injury. For a very brief period early in the second half, I thought we played better, and if we could snatch one, we could be back in it.

But then the killer-blow third. Tarkowski and Keane wide apart with the Tottenham player approaching like a cruise missile. By the time they tried to get in the way, he just bullied them and brushed them out of the way. Let’s hope we keep a fit Branthwaite and bring in O’Brien. Jake has an eye for goal.

I’m not a Dyche basher, but following his comments last week and with his tactics, he is starting to lose the supporters and possibly players? My son is convinced something has gone on behind the scenes between Dyche and the players. No evidence, just speculation.

But who would we replace him with? I think he’s here until the end of the season unless new owners come in and do something in January? I know what is coming: calls for Moyes – but not from me personally. My Kopite brother-in-law asked me how it went and what I thought about the manager situation. We always talk football. I jokingly said Klopp is available!!!

Give Pickford his due. Despite him costing us and he knew it, he came straight over. He passed his gloves to one young supporter in the front row and his shirt to another. As always, Mykolenko didn’t shy away.

Although it made me think how much I’d like to have him back, it was a really nice gesture to see Richarlson come close to the remaining Evertonians at the end and give his shirt to a young supporter and applaud those of us still in the ground. He got an equally warm reception.

I know the tickets for the Doncaster match are only £15 and I think only £4 for kids. Well, even though I know it won’t happen, the club should be putting on free tickets after that.

With the uncertainty of the ownership and a now deteriorating relationship with the manager, they need to regain trust with us. I know we are only two matches in and it isn’t time to panic just yet, but give us something, Everton.

Thank you to Neil, appreciated. Nice to see John and others and I caught Rob briefly at the end. Sorry I didn’t make it to Euston in time. That queuing system to get into White Hart Lane station is brutal and takes an eternity.

Difficult to pick a man of the match when just about every player was below par.  Mykolenko didn’t do too bad considering the pressure he was under with little protection from McNeil. But I have to go for young Dixon. He’s the only player who comes out of that with any sort of credibility.

Sorry I can’t be my usual self, but that was a painful watch. Still, we march on to the next one. There is a long season to go. It’s not done yet.

Respect to those 3,000 supporters who made the trip. I spoke to a young lad on the way out. He was saying he never wants to watch us again. I said to him, "You'll be back." His simple response was. "I know!"


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Clive Rogers
1 Posted 25/08/2024 at 11:21:53
It was a worrying sign in the summer when Young and Harrison were given another year and I said so on TW at the time.

At the end of last season, I had thought that a priority was to strengthen our right side. Harrison had been ineffective and Young dreadful, giving goals, penalties and games away. In the last few games, his legs had clearly gone.

Now the message has gone to the rest of the squad that it doesn't matter how badly you play, you'll get another season if your face fits.

Andy Crooks
2 Posted 25/08/2024 at 12:05:27
Great report as usual, Danny, but I have to say your most worrying one yet. Like Rob, you picked Dixon as the only bright spot. Good for the lad but it's not a great silver lining.

Somehow, Dyche needs to get some confidence into his team. Right now, motivation means more than tactics.

Dave Abrahams
3 Posted 25/08/2024 at 12:39:41
I think you saw the same game that most of saw, Danny whether at the game or on TV, you'd be grasping at straws to see it any other way.

Young Dixon was really the only choice, nobody else offered anything to write about. I could criticise all of them, some more than others, but what's the point at the moment?

Will we get better? Doubt it… unless two or three signings come in and Dyche has seemed to Kibosh those moves.

I'll be at Goodison twice this week hoping for the best. That's all we seem to have left, faith is dwindling and charity looks to be going elsewhere!

Bill Watson
4 Posted 25/08/2024 at 12:43:44
Thanks Danny. Your thoughts on the game are much as my own.

My mate, Steve and I, got there just as the rain stopped so had plenty of time to have a mooch around the local area. I've been to all our games there and it's a great stadium but the outside looks very bland apart from the glass fronted sections.

As to the game itself, Spurs could have been two or three up before they scored. Up until then, Pickford had kept the game level but, after his brain-fart, it was just a matter of how many they'd score.

Dyche's team selections defy logic. Doucoure was totally anonymous and Harrison is, quite frankly, a waste of space. I hoped they'd both be subbed at half-time but, when they finally were, we looked a much better side. How much longer will Dyche persevere with them?

Ndiaye, even playing out of position on the left, made an immediate impact in fighting for the ball and getting a foot in. Defenders will always be aware he's on the pitch!

Lindstrøm was less effective but did have one good run and cross.

Dixon had a pretty decent game and looks very promising.

As you commented, Tim Ireogbunam was pretty ineffective but did win the ball and try to get things moving but Gana just wasn't at the races.

McNeill was McNeil; constantly running into blind alleys with little end product. Calvert-Lewin looked disinterested.

I thought we were a bit flattered by 4-0; it could have been a lot more!

All-in-all, a wasted 15-hour round trip, the one positive being I missed getting drenched!

Allen Rodgers
5 Posted 25/08/2024 at 13:04:44
Good write-up, Danny, and as always, credit to the long-suffering travelling fans.

A predictable defeat but the manner of it is more worrying. Dyche's loyalty to Doucoure and Harrison is baffling to me. Keane is a total liability but needs must I suppose until Branthwaite is fit.

So on to Doncaster, who will fancy their chances. I was intending to go but just seen it's on Sky Sports+ so that makes up my mind.

I will be back at Goodison for Bournemouth hopefully in a better frame of mind.

Rob Halligan
6 Posted 25/08/2024 at 13:19:20
Good write-up, Danny. We were in the Redemption, but upstairs. There was a staircase on the right as you entered the premises, and as you say, there were plenty of blues in there, more than Spurs fans I think.

Once the fourth goal went in, we thought there was no point in hanging around, considering, as you say, the queues for the train stations. We didn't fancy the 45-minute walk up Seven Sisters Road, so headed back to Northumberland Park, got the overground to Tottenham Hale, then the tube back to Euston.

We must have got to Euston in record time from Spurs, about 5:15, 3 hours before our train, which turned into 4 hours because of problems with animals on the line, causing all kinds of disruption, with delays and cancellations.

But we go again on Tuesday. Play the strongest possible side you can, Dyche, because this is one game we cannot afford to lose. We need to get the confidence off the ground, and the next two games offers that opportunity.

Neil Copeland
7 Posted 25/08/2024 at 13:30:13
Danny, it was good to see you yesterday. I saw the match pretty much as you did.

Young Dixon looked understandably nervous in the opening minutes but settled in and I also thought he was MotM. I am looking forward to seeing more of him and hoping that he can make the right-back position his own with Paterson providing back-up.

The rest of them were awful. Pickford was almost caught twice before Son dispossessed him, very unusual for him to be so unreliable, I also thought he should have come for the cross that led to the third goal.

A really worrying aspect of our 2 games for me is how easily the opposition has cut through us on the break, the defence has been all over the shop in both games.

It's rare for me to knock Dyche because I think he had done a fantastic job under extreme circumstances but what is the point of buying players if he doesn't play them? He was talking about the need for belief and building a team… what the fuck?

The team yesterday only included Roman Dixon and Tim Iroegbunam because the first choices were injured. Have we really bought players who are not considered good enough to start games?

Anyway, rant over! Fortunately it is very early in the season but we need to see a reaction in the next 2 games; otherwise, I am worried that the rot will set in.

Doncaster Rovers up next and the perfect opportunity to try something a bit more adventurous. Come on, Sean Dyche, show us something different.

Pete Neilson
8 Posted 25/08/2024 at 13:33:28
Why not to make changes at half-time instead of 10 minutes into the second half? What hadn't changed in that time?

Doucoure shouldn't be anywhere near the starting eleven, add a player who is missing in action to seven defensive positions and no wonder we're not creating. But there's a lack of pace and creativity all over the pitch, he's not the only problem.

Lack of fight, organisation and folding so easily is a major concern, we're simply not that hard to beat.

One of the quietest away days that I recall, just an observation. Might be because, even at one down, we don't really look like a spirited team that can recover.

Bournemouth and Doncaster are big games now to get some confidence back.

John Keating
9 Posted 25/08/2024 at 15:05:16
Respect to Danny and everyone who spent money and hours of travel to watch that!

I just repeat my usual: Like winning, losing also becomes a habit. Of course we will lose games; however, it's the way we lose them.

The midweek game gives us a chance to get a bit more confidence going into the weekend. God forbid, if we don't get 3 points next week, the shit will really hit the fan!

Barry Rathbone
10 Posted 25/08/2024 at 17:24:01
The trouble with saying it's only 2 games in is an exercise in futility.

The descent has been accelerating for at least 2 seasons and fans voting with their feet (just read of a load more abandoning ship before the end) confirms even shallow optimism is beginning to wear thin.

The fans will most likely have Dyche out by Xmas and the merry-go-round will restart, a new manager bounce now our established cunning plan of survival.

The words "pissing against the wind" comes to mind.

Martin Campion
11 Posted 25/08/2024 at 17:39:49
Spurs must have been looking forward to this fixture – they usually batter us. Spurs may have been playing a team struggling on and off the pitch, but it shouldn't take away the fact that they are good. And it isn't the first time (or second etc) that I've witnessed a mass exodus by our fans.

I fear for us falling on Tuesday. I'm hoping we manage at least a point next Saturday. A tough season ahead. I agree with you about Tarkowski carrying an injury.

I would offer the observation that Spurs had sussed our game plan out and prevented Jordan any time on the ball. I'm sure that other teams will have noted how this tactic prevents us from trying to build up from the back and relax.

Paul Ferry
12 Posted 25/08/2024 at 17:45:21
Just got up, it was 0-4 wasn't it and Rob got back home by 10 right?
Paul Ferry
13 Posted 25/08/2024 at 18:24:16
Quick question, Rob. Are the 3,000 turning on Dyche?

Fuck, he legged it down the tunnel after a few handclaps though funnily enough turning round to different parts of the ground as if he was at the old lady, and then that fucking weird Trumpy presser.

Danny O’Neill
14 Posted 25/08/2024 at 18:32:45
Straightforward forward for them.

Paul, I wouldn't say all, but some are definitely turning. I can't speak for Rob and I think we'll have him for the season.


Paul Ferry
15 Posted 25/08/2024 at 18:34:59
Cheers Danny. He will be with us as long as the club stays unsold.
Paul Ferry
16 Posted 25/08/2024 at 18:36:42
Danny & Rob,

I think that the last singing from the 3,000 was in that sequence of corners before half-time. So, there were no anti-Dyche songs, I'm assuming?

Danny O’Neill
17 Posted 25/08/2024 at 18:47:03
Agree Paul. I personally didn't hear any chanting. Just a few mutterings around me.

Pickford came in for most stick. He made a mistake. That's football.

Rob Halligan
18 Posted 25/08/2024 at 18:50:53
Paul…

the one thing the away fans will never do, unless it was Benitez or Allardyce, is turn against the manager in unison.

Obviously I can’t hear fans from all corners of the away section but, as Danny says, there are always one or two muttering of discontent, but not something you would hear on the TV.

Like Danny, I too think we will have him for the season. For fuck's sake, it’s 2 games into a 38-game season, and as I said last week after Brighton, and also last night, we can’t be having any more performances like these.

We will play better and still lose games, and if it’s possible, play worse and win.

Paul Ferry
19 Posted 25/08/2024 at 18:53:46
"Pickford came in for most stick. He made a mistake. That's football".

Sad to hear that was going on at the ground too. There has been so much uninformed shite on here and heroic keyboard screaming at Pickford. Not one of them mentioned the 3 great saves he made before their first goal.

Danny O’Neill
20 Posted 25/08/2024 at 18:58:16
He made some great saves, Paul, before his mistake.

He wasn't the only player over the 95 minutes.

Paul Ferry
21 Posted 25/08/2024 at 19:03:19
I appreciate that, Rob. You confirmed what I hoped to hear. The 3,000 are always the best barometer for me.

It is only two games but I am deeply concerned from what I have seen in both of them. Scared to be honest. It's something I did not expect. He has to make changes everywhere – selection, set-ups, training etc. He keeps moaning about how tough the job is but he knew that when he took it on.

A successful transition in ownership could well change everything and get us out of the bog we are in as there is not one of us whose entire Everton view is not clouded by ownership, finances, debt etc. It's like a constant drumbeat that will not go away.

I'm hearing that Guehi is heading towards the red shite with Gomez going the other way. Surely we have to put a loan bid in for Trippier and unskunk him?

John Raftery
22 Posted 25/08/2024 at 19:07:51
Danny, great to see you and Neil just before kick-off yesterday.

It was a terrible result and performance but hardly a surprise. The consolation, as one of my friends on the coach suggested, is that we have been here before: 12 months ago, we lost our first away match 4-0, lost Calvert-Lewin with an injury, and looked completely out of sorts.

Now, 12 months on, we have key players out with injuries, in particular Branthwaite and Garner; plus a clutch of new players yet to be fully integrated into the team. This is not the best time to introduce young players to the Premier League but I thought Roman Dixon showed some promise in really difficult circumstances.

I think our biggest weakness is in midfield. It fails to create or destroy. The departure of Onana, frustrating though he could be, has left a huge gap in the defensive midfield area which exposes our back line to direct lines of attack; Mitoma box to box last week, Van de Ven box to box yesterday.

Iroegbunam is still learning on the job, lacks the positional sense which comes with experience, and looked overwhelmed. He and Gana seem to want to play the same game, chasing, tackling and running forward but neither offers control. Sorting out a midfield combination is an immediate priority which the return of Garner might address.

In attack, the Doncaster game is an ideal opportunity to start with Ndiaye and Lindstrøm. The former has looked lively in his two cameos. While Lindstrøm has been quieter, he at least seems ready to shoot on sight. Both have pace which might improve our playing style and goal threat if we can get the ball to them. A big ‘if'.

It is early days. We are far from alone in suffering a poor start to the season. Early results can mislead. In 2021, we made a good start to the season only to run into trouble, big trouble, as the season progressed.

Rob Halligan
23 Posted 25/08/2024 at 19:39:07
Silly reports about Paddy Power already paying out to anyone who's bet on us to go down. Silly as in totally premature after only two games. I trust Paddy Power have also paid out to anyone who bet on Wolves, Southampton, Crystal Palace and Ipswich who have also lost their first two games.

As John says, we had a very similar start last season, faced Doncaster in the Carabao Cup and then got a scrappy draw at Sheffield Utd. It's almost Déjà Vu this season, although I'm very much hoping for a win against Bournemouth and will then take the scrappy draw at Villa.

Danny O’Neill
24 Posted 25/08/2024 at 20:18:18
We won't go down, Rob.

John being the voice of sense. Good to see you too, John. Hopefully catch you at the next one.

Neil Copeland
25 Posted 25/08/2024 at 20:38:40
John #22, it was good to see you too yesterday.

I had the same thought about the Villa game last season, Calvert-Lewin took some stick off a few fans when he went off injured although no one could see he had a cheek like a golf ball. In fact, I think we were actually worse that day than against Spurs.

I was also thinking about the mauling we had at Chelsea and things really did look grim but we pulled it together and finished strongly.

A good result against Doncaster is a must and that will hopefully build some confidence for the Bournemouth game.

Andrew Merrick
26 Posted 25/08/2024 at 22:42:22
Hi Danny, I only know you from reading your posts, and I think you embody the feelings most older blues share, and I admire that.

But I am seeing and reading some quite toxic stuff, a video of fans abusing our players boarding the train home, and some strong emotions on this site too.

I've booed at Goodison, in the emotion of the moment, but when I was a ticket holder I stayed till the end, always, and never wavered in supporting my team of 60 years and counting...

This situation that our club is in now has no parallel, the overflowing emotion is blowing valves and bursting blood vessels… You are a voice of reason, we need that now, balance, equilibrium...

I feel we are at a tipping point, at all levels in the club, and it's hard being a supporter right now, but if the fans can't stick with the club, with the players, and each other, this could unravel... Please don't let this happen, guys.

Let Jarrad stay, let Calvert-Lewin get 15 plus goals, let the young guys settle in and give us the energy and enthusiasm to compete in the Premier League, we deserve that, and two games in is too early to quit.

Steve Hogan
27 Posted 25/08/2024 at 23:16:53
Two games in and I'm loathe to talk about 'turning points', but I wonder whether we witnessed yesterday the beginning of the end for Dyche?

His rather bizarre comments at the end of both recent league games seem to give the impression; is he finally letting the pressure get to him? With little or no public statements from anyone at the club, is it any wonder he feels isolated?

Apparently, there were no directors at the Spurs game yesterday, only Thelwell and two others in the directors box, little wonder he feels as if he's fighting a losing battle.

However, his silly comments about the talk amongst fans of the expectation this season was 'European football' was plain daft. No Evertonian I know was ever optimistic about chasing a European spot this season.

As for the two games I've witnessed to date, make no bones about it, we're in deep shit. We offer little or no goalscoring threat, and Dyche's tactics of playing 'hoofball' to a lone striker, is simply caveman football.

The second-lowest goalscorers in the Premier League last season surely told the manager something had to change in the way he sets the team up? We know he has little or no money to spend but the selection of Ashley Young last week against possibly the fastest winger in the Premier League was a terrible error of judgement from an experienced manager.

I wonder whether the players have stopped listening?

Paul Ferry
28 Posted 26/08/2024 at 03:55:41
Great report, Danny, but please don't call it "the Lane". It's no longer that and very far from it.

A couple of Spurs lads I know – don't let Rob know that please – say again and again that the new place has zilch character and that it might be impressive (but not from outside) in a sort of modern stadium way but match-going is not what it used to be. It's also in the same shithouse area and actually looks odder there than the Lane – like a spaceship just landed.

The new stadium at Bramley-Moore Dock will have plenty of character because of its location and the effort that has been made to respect the surrounding built environment. It looks miles better from the outside than the Spurs spaceship.

Thanks again for your support and the rest of the 3,000.

Danny O’Neill
29 Posted 26/08/2024 at 06:01:09
Thanks Paul, I refer to as the lane part out of habit and technically it still is having been built on the location of the old ground.

They rotated it 180°, which is what I believe we would have had to do if we had decided to redevelop Goodison, requiring buying up land and houses. Tottenham had the use of Wembley during the rebuild. God forbid had we had to use the obvious.

You are right: as impressive as it is inside, from the outside it is pretty unimpressive.

I had to stop and ask a couple of police officers where the stadium was. They laughed and told me to walk to the next left joking that you wouldn't think there was a huge stadium around here.

Agree on our new stadium at Bramley-Moore Docl. It is in an iconic setting.

Forgive me if I've forgotten. Where are you located? It would good to meet up, either at Goodison or the new stadium.

Paul Ferry
30 Posted 26/08/2024 at 07:32:54
Cheers Danny. I'm six hours behind you in Chicago now. But I do get back for a couple of games most seasons, usually April/May. I'll deffo be in touch.

I moved here in 2000. Had a season ticket 1977-2000, although I sadly didn't live in our city permanently from 1984 on, but it's still home. Born in Bootle; grew up in Crosby. I was in York, Cambridge, Warwick, London until I crossed the ocean.

Thanks again for your support and I hope that it helps with your horrible loss mate.

Paul Kossoff
31 Posted 26/08/2024 at 09:35:17
Brilliant write up Danny, are you aware that you described the current fave saying, two-tier system to a tee?

Describing how you "Sat on a metal bench with a bottle of Pepsi that you picked up from Sainsbury's around the corner." While the privileged in our two-tier system sat in plush restaurants eating expensive meals and drinking expensive wines whilst looking down at you? Sad, but true in our unfair two-tier system.

Danny, you are a poet my friend. Bring on the revolution, and we will be sitting in those restaurants, looking down on the once privileged bastards groveling like pigs, fighting for the scraps of the once two-tier system that we throw to them!

I feel much better now.

Paul Washington
32 Posted 26/08/2024 at 12:22:00
Paul #31,

I have described Danny as 'Brysonesque' (Compliment) on this site previously and I still believe this.

His adventures certainly entertain me!

Thanks Danny.

Paul Kossoff
33 Posted 26/08/2024 at 15:30:10
Paul 32.

True that Danny entertains sometimes more than the very team we support.

The big seven, William Wordsworth, Samuel Taylor Coleridge, John Keats, Lord Byron, Percy Bysshe Shelley and William Blake, and after the Spurs game, Danny O'Neill.

Brian Williams
34 Posted 26/08/2024 at 15:49:24
To paraphrase the very recently departed:

"Better to lose once 4-0 than lose four times 1-0."

RIP, Sven.

Fred Quick
35 Posted 26/08/2024 at 16:25:03
Crowded House made famous the song "Four Seasons In One Day", it is being re-released by a tribute band with a slight alteration for Evertonians "Four (good) Days In One Season".

How Danny, Rob et al continue to travel the length and breadth of this country, week-in & week-out, with so little reward, is testament to their loyalty and fortitude. I find it increasingly difficult to get up and go to Goodison every other week.

Paul Washington
36 Posted 26/08/2024 at 17:36:35
If we've drifted onto music, I find a bit of solace in Our Day Will Come by Ruby and the Romantics, also Amy Winehouse does a great cover of it.

Those blues who travel the country deserve a medal, or, in Danny's case, a Pulitzer prize!

Peter Jones
37 Posted 26/08/2024 at 18:15:11
Kasper Hjulmand seems to be available.
Andrew James
38 Posted 26/08/2024 at 21:34:20
Paul and Danny,

As a former resident of North London, I find it a piss-take that the Old Bill mugged off Danny about the close and obvious proximity of White Hart Lane. It's not that prominent and you can't see it from the likes of Ally Pally or the Heath like you can London Stadium, Wembley and the Emirates.

But nonetheless, not one of my preferred London grounds.

Speaking to Spurs fans, some of them resent the new WHL as they think building it cost them trophies under Mauricio Pochettino in the latter part of the last decade. They think they should've invested on the pitch instead to supplement the Kane, Dele, Son, Vertonghen side.

John Raftery
39 Posted 27/08/2024 at 16:01:55
Paul (37) Both those are great versions. I also like the one by Fontella Bass.
John Raftery
40 Posted 27/08/2024 at 16:18:01
Andrew (38) Many clubs in new stadia have fans who resent the outlay on the new build versus the lost investment on the pitch. Doubtless Spurs would argue their higher match day revenue of just below £5m per game enables them to build better teams in the future than would otherwise have been possible.
Dale Self
41 Posted 27/08/2024 at 16:38:42
Ooh a Fontella Bass reference, nicely done John! Her recording with the Art Ensemble of Chicago is stunning. Maybe she also did Blase' with Sonny Rollins, not sure.
Danny O’Neill
42 Posted 27/08/2024 at 16:40:29
John, many clubs who have moved have done so to soless stadiums.
Derby, Sunderland, Middlesbrough and Southampton. Carbon copies. Arsenal is a mini Wemley replica. As for West Ham, the less said the better.

Those who renovated. Old Trafford ĥas turned into a rust bucket. Liverpool have probably gone as far as they can. I'm always impressed with Villa Park.

Our new stadium will be unique in a fine setting. If it is finished at the end of the year, use it. Test runs for the U23s. Put mathes up on the big screens as most struggle to get tickets for Goodison.

Mark Murphy
44 Posted 29/08/2024 at 06:46:46
The thing about the shiny new Spurs stadium that everyone fails to mention is that the away supporters have no more, no less, than they do at any other away ground. We aren't allowed access to the many restaurants or outlets that the home support enjoy.

Instead we're restricted to a mobbed ground-floor bar and, for those of us canny enough to find it, a first-floor bar up the escalators where it's much easier to get a pint and gaze on the 3,000 songsters below. In fact, when I used it last there were more bar staff than customers.

Another thing I noticed after Saturday's games. Chelsea fans were moaning that the pubs near Wolves ground were home supporters only. Oh the irony!!

Lee Courtliff
45 Posted 29/08/2024 at 07:39:02
Danny, why did they have to rotate the ground, and is it the same reason we would have to with Goodison?

Keep the reports coming, mate, your eternal optimism is still much needed.

Danny O’Neill
46 Posted 29/08/2024 at 08:22:45
Yes, Lee. To build a stadium on that scale, there was no way they could have built on the existing site. So they flipped it and it's still on the same location of the old stadium. They demolished the old one and built on top of it.

We would have had to do something similar with Goodison had we opted to stay there.

I'm glad we're moving to Bramley-Moore Dock and it will regenerate the surrounding area that has been neglected for too long.

Get in touch, Lee. 0796 6007546

Lee Courtliff
47 Posted 29/08/2024 at 09:56:03
Will do mate, I've got your number in my phone. I'll message you about Saturday as I've got a ticket.

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