Everton 1 - 1 So'ton [5-6 on pens]

A much-changed Everton side struggled for large periods of a difficult game against Southampton at Goodison Park before Young saw the 6th Everton penalty saved to end their Carabao Cup campaign at the second hurdle. 

Seamus Coleman misses out with the knock he sustained on international duty, as does Vitalii Mykolenko after coming off in the first half at Villa Park Saturday complaining of illness, and neither Nathan Patterson nor Jarrad Branthwaite are ready having only just resumed full training.

Dominic Calvert-Lewin is not included in the squad but Beto starts with young Martin Sherif on the bench along with Luke Butterfield, Bradley Moonan, and Owen Barker.  Harisson Armstrong gets his full senior debut.

Roman Dixon is given another opportunity from the start while deadline-day signing Orel Mangala makes his full debut in midfield, alongside  Doucoure.  

Beto started well, putting a Saints defence under pressure early on. A lively run in the channel from Dixon got the crowd up and won a corner. From that, Everton worked it around for Beto to drive in and shoot, forcing the save from McCarthy and another corner touched away for a third corner of the other side. Lindstrom's delivery was good but McNeil's contact wasn't right to convert it.

After some ineffective attacking from the Saints Dixon went on another run and great forward pass that won another corner. It was played across to the far post and pushed back into play by O'Brien where Keane headed it back goalward and it ended up with Abdoulaye Doucoure heading home for the opening goal. 

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Southampton came a little closer but Aribo headed over, while at the other end, Doucoure sent Lindstrom clean through but he fired straight at McCarthy. 

Beto was almost released by Keane. Dixon went right through Fraser to stop him crossing and was drew a yellow card. The Saints free-kick was headed home virtually unopposed by Harwood-Bellis at the far post. Far too easy to score. 

Ndiaye drove hard to the byeline, winning a corner off Bree but the delivery was abysmal. The goal had given Saints some confidence and they kept the ball away from Everton but the Blues got forward only for McNeil to cross directly to McCarthy. 

Cornet powered his away across McNeil but scooped his shot high over the Everton bar. The visitors ended the half with a long spell of midfield possession. 

When Everton did regain possession, McNeil was again keen to play in Beto but the early ball was too speculative. Dixon was very strong on Fraser again giving up a similar free-kick that was almost delivered again to Harwood-Bellis but this time better defended, although the Blues struggled to clear their lines and ceded possession, with Saints slowing it right down and making Everton chase the ball. 

Everton played out from a goal-kick but Armstrong played it 30 yards back instead of forward and momentum was lost. 

Dixon drove forward but Beto had ventured yards offside. But the ball broke from a Beto interception for Lindstrom to race forward one-on-one with McCarthy but he left his shot fractionally too late and McCarthy had closed him down enough to block his effort away.

Everton's defending was ragged as they survived and managed to break forward, Lindstrom's pace forcing a corner but McNeil delivering it into MCCartjy's grateful grasp. At the other end, Cornet's low cross needed Keane vital interception to prevent Fraser from converting. 

A slew of substitutions, one of which was met by a round of puzzled boos as Young replaced Beto, McNeil moving into the attack. The changes seemed to disrupt the Everton players who struggled to know who to pass to, playing it back to Virginia far too much.

O'Brien tried to release Dixon down the right wing but overhit it. Lindstrom was fouled off the corner of the Saints box and swung in a beauty but Bree got a vital clearing header.

Lindstrom got free and tried to find a shooting position but was quickly surrounded by 5 or 6 Southampton defenders. Brereton Diaz went on a strong run but shot straight at Virginia. Ndiaye got free at the other end but was flagged offside. Ndiaye and Lindstrom then combined nicely but McNeil's shot was deflected behind, nothing came of the corner.

Lindstrom tried to feed McNeil through the crowd but it did not come off as the minutes ticked away. A late corner won by The Saints was repelled. Dibling danced his way past a few defenders and fired just over the Everton bar as a very unconvincing display by a rag-tag Everton side moved inevitably toward penalties after 3 minutes of added time. 

Dixon forced a late corner, cleared out to Young and driven back wide of the goal to end the game before the spot-kicks at the Park End, Southampton going first:

Fernades — scored; Keane — scored: [1-1]
Stewart — scored; McNeil — scored: [2-2]
Brereton — scored; Ndiaye — scored: [3-3] 
Harwood-Bellis — scored; Lindstrom – in off the post! [4-4]
Aribo — scored; Harrison — scored: [5-5]
Bree — scored; Young — saved! [5-6] 

Everton:  Virginia, Dixon [Y:31'], O’Brien, Keane, McNeil, Doucoure (79' Iroegbunam), Mangala, Armstrong (62' Harrison [Y:75']), Lindstrøm, Beto (62' Young), Ndiaye.

Subs: Pickford, Begovic, Sherif, Butterfield, Moonan, Barker.

Southampton:  McCarthy, Bree, Harwood-Bellis, Wood-Gordon, Taylor, Ugochukwu (62' Downes), Lallana (46' Fernandes), Cornet (63' Dibling), Aribo, Fraser (63' Brereton), Armstrong [Y:27'] (79' Stewart).

Subs:  Lumley, Edwards,  Amo-Ameyaw, Archer.

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Mike Hayes
1 Posted 17/09/2024 at 18:51:05
No Young - bench only - good news so far 🥳. COYB 💙
Ian Jones
2 Posted 17/09/2024 at 18:54:40
Look forward to seeing Sherif, Butterfield, Moonan and
Barker come on when we're 5 nil up
Robert Tressell
3 Posted 17/09/2024 at 18:59:55
Great to see Dixon and Armstrong in the starting line up. Great opportunity for them both let's hope they do well.

Likewise newbies Ndiaye, Lindstrom, Mangala and O'brien.

McNeil at LB will be interesting but I think everyone will be relieved to see him there given the alternative.

Coyb!

Neil Lawson
4 Posted 17/09/2024 at 19:04:54
We will all be desperately keen for this line up to do well in the vague hope that DinoD may see there are genuine alternatives for the weekend. However.
Ajay Gopal
5 Posted 17/09/2024 at 19:09:02
Will McNeill play left back? Or will it be Armstrong? Why is Garner not even in the squad? Just shows how barebones the squad is. Good luck to the Blues.
Paul Ferry
6 Posted 17/09/2024 at 19:14:06
McNeil Ajay
Derek Knox
7 Posted 17/09/2024 at 19:14:25
Apart from Keane and Doucoure a refreshing change. McNeil at LB seems a strange one too. Come on Blues.
Robert Tressell
8 Posted 17/09/2024 at 19:15:12
Good point Ajay. I assumed McNeil but Google says Armstrong for what it's worth.
Nigel Scowen
9 Posted 17/09/2024 at 19:17:12
Robert@3

McNeill at LB, Jay Harris actually called that out earlier today, I thought it was a positive shout, really interested to see how that pans out, fingers crossed.

Come on lads our season starts here.

UTFT

Si Cooper
10 Posted 17/09/2024 at 19:18:56
Dixon, O’Brien, Armstrong, Mangala and Lindstrom are players I believe can - and will - be important for us this season (and beyond for some of them).

Hopefully they up their game to the point the coaching staff are convinced they can be routinely be relied on, rather than just emergency cover.

Up the Toffees! Not desperate to progress in this competition but we want overall performances to improve massively and the results to come with that. Happy for that to start tonight!

Tom Bowers
11 Posted 17/09/2024 at 19:27:40
A game for some to prove themselves but we shouldn't expect to much with so many changes.

Naturally we hope that whatever they get they can hold onto until the final whistle.

Kevin Edward
12 Posted 17/09/2024 at 19:32:14
As Southampton have put a few chances away in this competition already, its a good opportunity for O’Brian and Keane (and Virginia) to get stuck in, they will be busy I think.

I really hope it turns out well for them tonight.

UTFT Dyche. Set us up for Saturday please, in a positive way.

Frank Crewe
13 Posted 17/09/2024 at 19:32:30
No DCL. Let’s hope he’s back at the weekend.
Ajay Gopal
14 Posted 17/09/2024 at 19:40:20
It seems to me that Dyche has already given up on this game looking at the subs bench: 2 goalkeepers, 4 kids who have never played a senior game and only 3 outfield players with any kind of experience - Young, Tim and Harrison. No Tarkowski, DCL, Garner, Gana, apart from the injured crowd - Mykolenko, Coleman, Branthwaite, Patterson, Chermiti, Dele. I will be shocked if we win this one, to be honest.
Neil Tyrrell
15 Posted 17/09/2024 at 19:45:40
COME ON YOU BLUES!!!
Christy Ring
16 Posted 17/09/2024 at 19:54:57
Garner, Mykolenko and DCL are ill? He had to give the new lads a start, but Dixon deserves his place, and should have played last Saturday. S'hampton have an experimental team, so hopefully not a backlash no matter what happens tonight?
Christy Ring
17 Posted 17/09/2024 at 20:03:25
Listening to Hinchcliffe talking crap again, can't see us winning a game, and puts it down to the players, Dyche can only do so much? You'd never think he played for us, always critical, and a shit pundit.
Simon Harrison
18 Posted 17/09/2024 at 20:19:11
A little late to the party but as others have mentioned what a refreshing (and surprising I have to add!) line up.

The most rewarding thing I think is that Tarks gets more time to rest up, hopefully in time to team up with Branners at the weekend.
Plus giving JP the night off, might be the kick in the pants he needs to up his game.

An interesting line up and even more interesting bench.

1-0 and COYB (PS How come Doucoure still remains so talismanic to us?)

Paul Kossoff
19 Posted 17/09/2024 at 20:23:22
Some penalty box pinball and captain Abdoulaye Doucoure leads by example to nod in from close range from a Dwight McNeil corner kick.

Jake O'Brien flicked the ball on at the back post, Keane headed it towards goal and then Doucoure had the final touch.

Paul Kossoff
20 Posted 17/09/2024 at 20:27:24
Another ball into the Everton box and another goal conceded. Yet more poor defending from Sean Dyche's side. That was far too easy for Southampton. At the minute, the Blues can not deal with a good ball into their own box.

However, minutes earlier and Beto opted to go to ground instead of chasing after a through ball. Once again, the small margins come back to haunt the Blues.

Peter Moore
21 Posted 17/09/2024 at 20:36:01
Hinchcliffe telling the truth as he sees it. I admire his honesty.
Easy target to berate the manager, rather than his limited resources.

The clamour for changes and giving Dixon, O'Brien starts is well heeded by the manager in this game.

May we win in fine style and make them undroppable.

George Cumiskey
22 Posted 17/09/2024 at 20:38:14
Exactly the same tactics as every match all behind the ball and hope for a breakaway, Southampton playing all the football.
Neil Lawson
23 Posted 17/09/2024 at 20:41:11
The manager selects the team and the best tactics for those players. We appear to have 3 distinct groups of players and a significant disconnect between them. I just don't understand why Dyche chooses to concede possession throughout.

We just are not a team nor are we even the sum of the parts. We need another ball player in midfield. Yes, Doucoure scored, but he is otherwise anonymous and contributing nothing.

This is Southampton. Mighty Southampton and they are controlling the game. Spaces everywhere. C'mon Dyche. Prove you can manage and make the changes/ adjustments we are desperate for.

Tim for Doucoure. I wish we had a left-back. McNeil doing okay but just too much space down both flanks and he doesn't have the pace of Dixon.

Ernie Baywood
24 Posted 17/09/2024 at 21:05:58
Young for Beto?

Can someone tell Dyche we can't play for a point here.

Craig Walker
25 Posted 17/09/2024 at 21:10:06
Strange game this. It's like a game of Soccer Aid.

This could be our last-ever cup game at Goodison. It's like a pre-season friendly.

If it goes to penalties, we're out.

Ernie Baywood
26 Posted 17/09/2024 at 21:27:22
As much as it's weird playing without a striker, we've now got actual footballers playing close to each other.

Lindstrom, Ndiaye, McNeil, even Harrison to some extent will have a chance to craft things without them being broken down by a weak link like Doucoure or Beto.

Ernie Baywood
27 Posted 17/09/2024 at 21:36:20
Well they'll have a chance if we ever get the ball again...
Tom Bowers
28 Posted 17/09/2024 at 21:37:02
The whole scenario has been one big mishmash.

No real intensity. Like watching wallpaper dry for the most part.

Doucoure can score the odd goal but generally is poor as a midfielder. Why the hell does he bring Young on???

Pete Ellingham
29 Posted 17/09/2024 at 21:38:43
Awful — what an awful performance!

So bored of watching this style of football!

Neil Lawson
30 Posted 17/09/2024 at 21:40:28
I am writing this before the penalties start. The result, to some extent, is irrelevant.

Analysing tonight's performance is pointless. It's the bigger picture. We are a shockingly poor team. Playing as we do and managed as we are, we are incapable of beating anyone. We are going down and badly.

Change is required now. Not after we fail to beat Leicester and Palace. Dreadful dreadful football.

Craig Walker
31 Posted 17/09/2024 at 21:49:28
So predictable.
Danny Baily
32 Posted 17/09/2024 at 21:50:38
A tale of woe and misery.
Ernie Baywood
33 Posted 17/09/2024 at 21:51:01
Sometimes it feels like the script is written.

You've just got to laugh.

Derek Knox
34 Posted 17/09/2024 at 21:51:14
Dyche Out!
Mike Price
35 Posted 17/09/2024 at 21:51:27
I've never seen a goalie look less likely to save a penalty.

He looked like a 12-year-old.

George Cumiskey
36 Posted 17/09/2024 at 21:52:24
The best team won.
Anthony Jones
37 Posted 17/09/2024 at 21:53:20
Ashley Young has been a liability from Day 1.

Extending his stay by a year was a big mistake.

Of course he had to miss his penalty.

He is done.

Neil Lawson
38 Posted 17/09/2024 at 21:53:29
Mike. You are blaming the goalie? Seriously?
Joe McMahon
39 Posted 17/09/2024 at 21:53:40
Ah well, no striker, Everton lose at Goodison on penalties again, these amazing nights at the Grand Old Lady eh!

Surely it must be time to drop the embarrassing song.

Sean O'Hanlon
40 Posted 17/09/2024 at 21:55:45
George #36 absolutely spot on!
Michael Lynch
41 Posted 17/09/2024 at 21:58:18
Weakest squad in the history of the club, and I think Dyche knows it and knows that he's running out of road. Whatever happens, he's a dead man walking and he's just waiting for the sack and/or relegation.

Southampton looked streets ahead of us and they're our main rivals for the drop.

Thoroughly fucking depressing.

Peter Gorman
42 Posted 17/09/2024 at 22:00:07
Dyche is pure shithouse for that sub.
Mike Price
43 Posted 17/09/2024 at 22:01:35
Playing Forever Everton before the penalties. It's pathetic, it sounds like a George Formby throwback.

Uninspiring and pathetic — and I've got the 45 somewhere.

James Marshall
44 Posted 17/09/2024 at 22:02:37
Virginia dived the wrong way for every penalty I think. He was diving the opposite way to the natural side every player was more likely to hit it.

What a shit game in every respect – and it could be the last ever cup game at Goodison.

Christy Ring
45 Posted 17/09/2024 at 22:06:18
How do you win a match with no striker for the last 30 minutes, and play two wingers? It didn't make sense, unbelievable.

We were overrun in midfield again because Dyche won't change his formation, and they controlled the whole game.

Just sit back and give them the ball? I think he's lost the plot.


Andrew Merrick
46 Posted 17/09/2024 at 22:06:24
I understand giving game time to players that deserve a go, Dixon did okay, O'Brien needs more minutes, but it was ragged stuff and a lot of chasing the ball...

Beto was having a go — I can't fathom taking him off for Young? Was that like the seconds throwing the towel in?
Head scratcher, that.

Tony Abrahams
47 Posted 17/09/2024 at 22:06:25
Eight changes and it showed because I was taken back to a famous shout from the night Everton pulverized Bayern Munich, and the whole bench told the German coach, to fuck off because he was complaining that it just wasn’t football, when I was sat on my couch thinking I’m glad I never went to Goodison Pk tonight.
Clive Rogers
48 Posted 17/09/2024 at 22:07:28
If Dyche hadn't had his brain removed, he could have been a poor manager.
Neil Tyrrell
49 Posted 17/09/2024 at 22:07:43
We were never winning this cup anyway so it's largely irrelevant, but fuck me we're a tough watch.

Passing backwards and zero goal threat, it's soul-destroying watching this shit. When's the next international break again?

Thanks for last season, Dyche, but I think it's time to find the door.

Gavin Johnson
50 Posted 17/09/2024 at 22:10:13
Why am I not surprised..?!

The only minor comfort is that penalties can go either way and we didn't lose it in the 90 minutes.

Dyche now has one game to save his job. No points at Leicester on Saturday and he has to get the sack... Moshiri, Friedkin or Textor will have to pull a couple of million out of their pocket to pay the Dychosaurus off!

Ian Edwards
51 Posted 17/09/2024 at 22:13:02
That whole performance was dogshit.

Players continually passing backwards. Beto isolated. No support. No runners. 25% possession.

Lone forward off, Ashley Young on. I never want to see him in an Everton shirt again.

I never want to see Dyche on the touchline again. He can wipe snot over his bald dome at some other club. Get him out. Now.

Anthony Dove
52 Posted 17/09/2024 at 22:14:02
Away on holiday thankfully. 25% possession at home to
Southampton! That must be a catalyst for change.

Dinosaurs don't rule the football world anymore.

Phillip Warrington
53 Posted 17/09/2024 at 22:15:06
After this crap, for fuck's sake, why won't any Everton manager take the cups seriously?

I was a Dyche fan but not anymore, we are a Premier League club and yet we act like a 6-th tier club.

It's like he just said "Here's a bunch of guys who have had not much game time, chuck them together and let's see what happens..."

Not good enough, Mr Dyche.

John Wignall
54 Posted 17/09/2024 at 22:15:31
My god, that was hard to watch. Dyche's tactics are poor; we make teams look good.

It can't go on like this. Time for change. Who? I don't know… the club's a mess.

Sam Hoare
55 Posted 17/09/2024 at 22:18:41
Poor as he was, taking off Beto was a terrible decision for a team that only knows how to play direct.

I've supported Dyche from Day 1 but my belief in him is ebbing away right now. He needs to turn it around pronto because this is joyless stuff currently.

Gavin Johnson
56 Posted 17/09/2024 at 22:22:03
We can't wait 4 months again to win a game of football like last seasons barren spell...

He has to go!

Christy Ring
57 Posted 17/09/2024 at 22:22:29
I'd take a loss tonight if we at least played well, but our football, formation and Dyche's tactics were abysmal.

Southampton stroking the ball around in midfield, and all we did was hoof the ball, and no striker? He'd no game plan whatsoever, and Doucoure a total passenger supposedly a midfielder?


Fred Quick
58 Posted 17/09/2024 at 22:24:37
OK Apparently there has been a bout of illness within the Everton ranks, but that does not excuse allowing a newly-promoted, fellow struggler to have so much of the ball at our HOME stadium. Beto should be isolated, he's garbage, and why some think he will come good is way beyond my understanding. In fact Everton did improve slightly when the big guy went off, but only slightly.

I don't understand what Dyche thinks that 30,000 Evertonians turn up for in an early round cup-tie, a hot pie, a cup of half-time Bovril, a catch-up with mates. No! none of those they come to be entertained by a team that will give it a go and try and win the game, not sit deep and play on the break, hoping that something positive happens.

Lindstrom did have an opportunity to put us two ahead, and there were other chances on offer, however, the overall performance was lacklustre, disjointed and bloody damn awful to watch.

I'm not disappointed that we're out of competition that we seem destined never to win, because it would likely impede our chances of stopping up if we had progressed to the later rounds, but I am disappointed that we didn't try and dominate the ball, and ask more questions of a fairly ordinary Saints team.

Never mind off to Leicester City on Saturday with a back four that will include Keane and Young - there's always something to look forward to at Everton isn't there?

Ryan Holroyd
59 Posted 17/09/2024 at 22:26:19
Sam,

Beto is awful. Up there with the worst we've ever had. Yer Barlows etc. He's worse than The Stracq!

Kevin Molloy
60 Posted 17/09/2024 at 22:27:40
I couldn't give a bollox about the Carabao Cup, win, lose, it matters little.

With our side so weakened, it's all about the weekend

Shane Corcoran
61 Posted 17/09/2024 at 22:29:00
This is much calmer than the forum.

I'm not that bothered by the result. We lost on penalties with a patched up side in a competition we had no prospect of winning.

But it increases the pressure for Saturday's game.

I predict an unbeaten run and we'll be up to 14th by the start of November.

But please, no more Young. For his sake and ours.

Soren Moyer
62 Posted 17/09/2024 at 22:29:05
Honestly, I'm beginning to fucking hate myself for supporting this club!

Misery after misery after misery!!

Mick O'Malley
63 Posted 17/09/2024 at 22:36:16
I'm gutted we're out, I can't believe the absolute shithouse football we played in possibly our last cup game at Goodison, under the lights.

Shameful stuff from Dyche, I can't wait til he is gone. 25% possession at home in a cup game, for fuck's sake!

Bobby Mallon
64 Posted 17/09/2024 at 22:36:21
"I'm not arsed about tonight, I hear it's only the cup."

For fuck's sake, it's why we watch and play football to win trophies and games.

Fuck the weekend — tonight mattered as us fans have seen no trophies since 1995.

Take it in… 1995 — it does matter!

Kunal Desai
65 Posted 17/09/2024 at 22:36:51
Last ever League Cup tie at Goodison going down in the records books against poor opposition in Southampton who had over 70% possession. Embarrassing.

The club will have no choice but to make a decision on Dyche if he fails to pick up 4 points from the next 3 games. It's that simple.

Danny O'Neill
66 Posted 17/09/2024 at 22:37:43
Another year and this competition alludes us.

I hate penalties. I often wish we'd bring that golden goal rule. Play in added time until first goal wins, although we did have a great chance to go 2-1 up in the second half.

As said above, over the course of the 90 minutes, the best team eventually won.

We didn't have much shape, although it's difficult to judge when watching on the tele. And with all the changes, it looked disjointed.

Onto Leicester at the weekend. Turn the tide and we could actually be 15th, results dependent. Then Palace. Fingers crossed, it could be a different landscape in two weeks time.

Shane Corcoran
67 Posted 17/09/2024 at 22:39:02
True Bobby, but in the context of the state the club is in, the league cup ain’t high on many’s priority list.
Billy Shears
68 Posted 17/09/2024 at 22:39:05
As Vardy & Eze smile & rub their hands together with glee.

We shame Professional Footballer's everywhere!

Young is a fucking disgusting disgrace too.

Dyche should go tonight!!!

Mike Doyle
69 Posted 17/09/2024 at 22:40:37
Ryan 59. Beto is certainly one of the poorest forwards we've had in my time watching the Blues.

I always regard Bernie Wright who was dispatched after playing 11 games for us as the worst striker I've seen, but even his strike rate of 2 goals in 11 games was better than Beto's (to date).

God help us if Calvert-Lewin gets injured again.

Dermot O'Brien
70 Posted 17/09/2024 at 22:43:46
Ashley Young is a professional footballer, he trains hard and plays when he's picked by Dyche. He does his best. He put up his hand, accepted to take a sudden death penalty, that was brave.

I don't want to see him playing for us again, but he's not to blame for the shite we see every game. So give him a break – but not another appearance, unless we're really stuck.

Mark Murphy
71 Posted 17/09/2024 at 22:43:59
“Patched up side”

Southampton, the only other pointless (in our case in more than one meaning of the word) side in the prem, made 11 changes.

We had 11 strangers, with no plan other than play in your position, try really hard and run about and if the opposition give you a chance take the ball off them. “What should we do with it then?” Erm, give it back until they do it again.
We were rudderless and a pale imitation of a cohesive footballing team.

I don't blame the limited players. Brereton Diaz, for example, is beneath even us, but we are simply not a football team - and that's down to the manager.

He has to go. Enough.

Mike Price
72 Posted 17/09/2024 at 22:44:27
Thelwell should be sacked for many reasons but Beto is the biggest.

We were taken to the cleaners and made a Sunday league player a multi-millionaire in the process.

Phil Smith
73 Posted 17/09/2024 at 22:46:08
Couldn't watch the game tonight, but did Dyche really take off Beto for Young and played with no striker and kept Sherif on the bench???

Who was playing up top? This clown had totally lost the plot.

Derek Thomas
74 Posted 17/09/2024 at 22:48:25
Stick a fork in him, he's done! (and Young)

Time for DoF Thelwell and CEO Chong, to pull finger and start Directing and Executiving - while there's still in theory, time.

But this season...of all seasons...might be the one our luck runs out.

Sam Callister
75 Posted 17/09/2024 at 22:48:51
Southampton were neat, tidy, kept hold of the ball well… whilst we played kick and rush.

We had 26% possession at home against a newly promoted side (albeit a patched team)… absolutely dire.

Anthony Dwyer
76 Posted 17/09/2024 at 22:58:56
Painful performance.
Neil Lawson
77 Posted 17/09/2024 at 23:04:18
Mark 71. "We are simply not a team and that is down to the manager"

You can see it. I can see it. Everyone can see it. For goodness sake, there must be someone with the capacity and authority to act and do so now.

Paul Ferry
78 Posted 17/09/2024 at 23:08:13
What the fuck is the dickhead going on about?

“But the players, they do know. All you’re really doing is pointing out things they know. We had a quick debrief in the dressing room afterwards. It was all that’s needed. There’s quite a bit of experience in the group, so they will know. You don’t have to keep showing them endlessly what went on, they know.”

Bill Gall
79 Posted 17/09/2024 at 23:14:27
Danny
I wished I had your optimism, and its shows what a precarious position Dyche and Moshiri have gotten Everton in when we are relying on hope and not reality.
Fred Quick
80 Posted 17/09/2024 at 23:20:16
The Everton FC Podcast - All Together Now @ATNCAST say:

Since Everton were dumped out of the League Cup last December (Fulham on Pens) they've played 30 matches.
They've won 6.

Crystal Palace (FA Cup)
Burnley (H)
Nottingham Forest (H)
Liverpool (H)
Brentford (H)
Sheffield United (H)

Is Mike Walker available?

Ian Wilkins
81 Posted 17/09/2024 at 23:28:51
We have at best a very ordinary squad of players. We can debate and discuss how we got here over and over.
We have a squad of players below Premier League standard, we are exposed week in week out.
Only organisation, commitment, graft, will see us retain PL status, and that alone this year may not be enough. We certainly need Branthwaite back and a fitter Tarkowski. Coleman and Myko at full backs.
Dyche has 2 games, Leicester and Palace to determine what happens next.
Anything less than 3 points from 6 he goes. 3 or more he stays.
We need to get through this season then reset.
Dave Abrahams
82 Posted 17/09/2024 at 23:33:25
The players looked short of confidence from start to finish, the crowd tried hard, in patches to provide some encouragement but it was very hard to believe this team plus the subs were going to win this gam, it got worse after the subs came on and penalties looked the likely but fortunate outcome and then it became a lottery but Southampton got the victory they deserved but truthfully we were lucky we never played a lower division club because they would have probably gone through at out expense.

A patched up,team tonight, who will turn out at Leicester, does it make any difference the way we are playing and set up to play.

Ian Black
83 Posted 17/09/2024 at 23:42:55
Just back from the game.

It was painful to watch. The narrow defensive formation we use was gifting so much space to their wide men, that whenever they passed to one of them we struggled to keep our shape as inevitably someone had to run to mark the recipient on the wing who now had the ball.

They made one crossfield ball that seemed to take forever to land but it still hit their man unchecked as he was in so much space.

Sitting in the Upper Gwladys there weren't too many boos when Beto was replaced, just a silent puzzlement.

Immediately after, one of our defenders launched a ball up to the big man up front. Who was now sitting on the bench and N'Diaye watched it be, well, defended.

I'm not overly critical of Dyche normally but I am struggling to defend that performance. We looked more up for it in the pre-season friendly against Roma, which says it all.

At the end, after Southampton won on penalties there was just a stunned silence of inevitability about the place. There were very few boos and some of the players came over and clapped to the Gwladys street and got a smattering of claps back.

Dismal night.


Simon Dalzell
84 Posted 17/09/2024 at 23:45:18
Neil 38. I don't think Mike is 'Blaming' the Goalkeeper. but he is spot on. Never have I seen such a pathetic effort..
Paul Swan
85 Posted 17/09/2024 at 23:45:56
Anyone remember playing a game called Kerby when you were a kid?. I swear the kerbs we used to throw the ball against had more control than Beto and Doucoure. Dyche out for me as I can’t stand to watch the turgid non-football he is inflicting on us. Outplayed by an abysmal Southampton team at home. Go and go now
Steve Dowdeswell
86 Posted 17/09/2024 at 23:49:05
Getting sick of reading th same match reports week after week already after doing my best to keep my hopes up while watching the games.
It's just pathetic the lack of ambition that was played out tonight given we played 30 minutes with no striker on the pitch. How on gods green earth does anyone expect to win a match when you take off a striker (no matter how poor) for an equally shit defensive option.
Yes penalties are a game of chance but surely Pickford isn't the only keeper in the team who studies likely penalty takers and can then have more of a chance of at least going the right way.
Once again the players looked knackered on 65-70 minutes and with the amount of injuries already starting to mount up this early in the season someone surely has to ask what the fitness coaches and medical staff are actually doing.
Do we really think Dyche is going to be shown the door after either Leicester or Palace? Is anyone at the club actually able or willing to make that decision? We have an owner that couldn't care less, and interim CEO (how long interim positions last at this club is a joke). Just hope he does actually get the boot and we can start the season.
Rob Dolby
87 Posted 17/09/2024 at 23:52:06
We had enough chances tonight to win easily with Lindstrom being the main culprit. A sweaty to Beto at 1-0 would have won us the game. We lack so much quality all over the pitch.

Dixon played well against Frazier and should be in the 11 on Saturday. Young will probably play left back.

Armstrong looks like he could be a future first teamer but needs to be out on loan in the championship or abroad.

Mangala did ok, he shielded O'Brien and Keane quite well and helped Armstrong.

Our last ever league cup game at goodison won't be remembered for long.

Sickness in the camp will make Saturdays game even trickier.

Mike Price
88 Posted 17/09/2024 at 00:03:30
I watched the Overlap on YouTube with Benitez the other week.
Regarding coaches, fitness staff, back room staff etc he alluded to going to ‘lesser’ clubs only to find lots of very nice people but substandard at their jobs. He said this doesn’t happen at big, professional clubs and these small margins set the tone and make a difference that can’t be made up. Wonder who he was talking about.
Why are our players always injured or unfit when we play the minimum amount of matches possible?!
Ryan Holroyd
89 Posted 18/09/2024 at 00:15:02
who cares what Rafa Benitez thinks
John Daley
90 Posted 18/09/2024 at 00:31:21
I don’t think such a purposeless display can simply be written off as being due to fielding “a patched up side”.

Fair enough, Dyche was without his first choice full-backs, but would a long past his best Coleman on the right and Ripley from ‘Alien 3’ on the left really have made any difference to that lacklustre performance?

Calvert-Lewin may have held the ball up better and Branthwaite may have added composure at the back but we play the same cowardly, ‘not the face, not the face’, facade of football amounting to fucking nothing regardless of personnel or opposition.

We can’t keep hold of the ball for a minute, turn and play it all the way back when approaching the opposition box for the keeper to hoof it, huff and puff chasing around the pitch belatedly after the ball like the mad kid at school who wore a Super Mario coat and sprinted round the corridors humming ‘Ride of the Valkyries’ at the top of his voice while people chucked rubbers and half-full tubes of Vagisil at his head.

Doucoure, in particular, despite his goal, was diabolical and passed the ball like he had pins and needles in both feet and Peri Peri sauce in one eye.

Harrison was game when he came on but he plays like he thinks he’s just joined the X-Men and can simply phase through physical objects in his path. I’ve never seen someone lose the ball so often by simply running straight slap-bang into an opposition player. Time and time again.

The only one in blue who looked like a player was Ndiaye and the young lads did no worse than their more experienced, supposedly wilier teammates. They’re the only small positives I can glean from the game.

From his post-match comments, Dyche…as per usual…seems utterly unphased by racking up yet another piss-poor display/defeat combo and once more sending long-suffering fans home lamenting why they persist in putting themselves through this shite. At this point he’s beginning to remind me of Raul Julia’s ‘M Bison’ from the mad Van Damme ‘Street Fighter’ movie:

For you, the day Dyche graced Goodison with yet another galling display, where Everton were passed off the park by Southampton, may have been one of the most frustrating days of your footballing life. But for me….it was Tuesday.”

Jerome Shields
91 Posted 18/09/2024 at 01:08:29
The problem is that players can perform badly not putting a concentrated effort and making errors and are a shoo-in for being selected for the next game.

On top of that the Manager thinks he can play the same type tactics, select players who do no perform, play the self same players out of position and make nonsensical substitutions. Games are lost and the same is tried the next game.

Does anyone care that it ends up as a training ground rump for the opposition.

John Daley
92 Posted 18/09/2024 at 01:13:04
I was pleased with the team's performance from the off……and we had to put a team together last minute.com".

5 wins in 9 months may not be deserving of the boot but actually standing there, being interviewed and speaking aloud the words ‘last minute.com’ instead of just saying last fucking minute is definitely a firing offence.

Colin Malone
93 Posted 18/09/2024 at 01:46:37
James Garner has no future at Everton, while Sean Dycheball is in charge.
Uber for Dyche NOW.
Phil Lewis
94 Posted 18/09/2024 at 01:47:17
I'm desperately trying to take positives from this latest debacle. However I'm hopeful that at least people are realising the futility in selecting Doucoure, Beto, Young, Harrison, Keane and others who are obvious liabilities.

Is Dyche sackable? With any takeover still very much in Limbo, I would doubt it. In our current financially precarious situation, where is the £10 million going to come from, that will be required to oust Dyche and his backroom 'band of charletons'? And just as crucial, how will funds be made available to find a suitably dynamic proven successor?

I can only assume that Dyche did not attach that much importance to tonight's competition. Perhaps he's saving himself for a determined challenge for the FA Cup and mid table safety.

Was that a pig that just flew by...?

Phil Smith
95 Posted 18/09/2024 at 03:16:31
John Daley (90), Ripley from Alien 3! Hahahahah. Thanks for that, mate. At least something brought a laugh from this shambles of a week.

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