Arsenal 0 - 0 Everton

Everton denied Mikel Arteta's title-chasing Arsenal a further 2 points with a defensive masterclass at The Emirates on Saturday afternoon.

With only one new injury concern beyond James Garner and Tim Iroegbunam, who are still sidelined, Sean Dyche fields a line-up with just one change:  Harrison in for McNeil. whose knee injury flared up again.

Abdoulaye Doucouré continued in the No 10 role behind Dominic Calvert-Lewin, with Ndiaye nd Harrison on the flanks and Orel Mangala partnering Idrissa Gana Gueye in central midfield.

On the bench, Armando Broja will be keen to build on his hugely promising cameo, and Harrison Armstrong – both very keen to get game time for different reasons. Michael Keane returns to the bench after his minor knee issue but no room for Youssef Chermiti. 

The game started in all-too-familiar fashion: Gana back to Pickford for the big hoof to concede possession. It rapidly became exceedingly dull, with Arsenal playing pass the parcel in midfield, Everton chasing shadows. 

Pickford played their first goal-kick out from the back and almost became a cropper before they got the ball forward and into the path of Docucure who had plenty of space and time to score Everton's opening goal… So he waited until Gabriel came storming across to block his shot behind for a corner that Everton then wasted. 

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Martinelli advanced, winning a corner off Tarkwski, Pickford punching clear over the crowd.  The next Gunners move found Ødegaard who fired over. Arsenal fell for the offside trap a couple of times. Ndiaye tried to break forward but was very easily muscled off the ball.

A better Arsenal move found Saka and Tarkowski did brilliantly to block it. Branthwaite then gave away an unintentional corner that was well cleared but Gana was too easily robbed of the ball and the slow Gunners build-up recommenced after brief contact for Calvert-Lewin who shockingly gifted it straight back to the home side. 

Saka forced a very cheap free-kick off Mykolenko, who had barely touched his arm. Zonal marking in extremis, but Tarkowski tracked and headed the ball behind for Arsenal's third corner, again cleared, but no-one upfield to benefit. 

Calvert-Lewin did his hold-up job well but Everton only went backwards until eventually hoofing it into no-man's land – a total lack of any kind of attempt at forward play. 

A ball in to Ødegaard was solidly blocked behind by Branthwaite for another corner that Pickford again punched clear. Saka finally beat his Blue defenders, laying it back perfectly for Ødegaard who saw his shot blocked onto Pickford and careening away over the bar. Another corner cleared as half-an-hour passed, but not without a crazy head-volleyball moment in the Everton penalty area.

A rare foray into the Arsenal half saw Ndiaye try to feed Doucoure but they were easily crowded out and the slow torture resumed, Everton playing a little further up the field without creating any attack. 

Arsenal reduced the game to a walk at times, and it almost lulled Everton into a mistake at the back. Harrison's first involvement won a throw-in near the corner flag but his subsequent cross was easily cleared.

Rice and Martinelli almost broke through, Pickford making a vital stop. Rare advanced Blues possession ended with a terrible cross to the far post, overhit out by Harrison. 

Half-time on a brilliant defensive exposition by Sean Dyche's stalwarts saw that point they started with still in Blue hands…

Pickford pulled off a brilliant reaction save at the near post after Ødegaard headed back for a snapshot from Saka to start the second half. Everton almost got forward to threaten in response, Calvert-Lewin playing winger, unable to cross to himself.

But it looked briefly like a different game, with both managers perhaps giving their charges a right rollicking, but for very different reasons. Branthwaite very nearly put Pickford in trouble with a poor backpass, the big defender worryingly feeling his hamstring.   

Havertz almost got through but there was Branthwaite to clear when he stumbled on the ball. Mykolenko was being tormented by Saka but still just about stalling him. The ball fell to Saka again for a snapshot that Tarkowski blocked yet again. 

Everton continued to live on the edge, Arteta making the first changes to try and force that mistake.  Saka did brilliantly to get close but Pickford did very well to clear his dangerous low cross. Early changes too for Dyche, but they were like-for-like. 

Saka worked hard for a cross but it sailed over Havertz at the far post as Arteta made two more changes. Jesus got beyond Mykolenko but there was no-one at the back post, and they had gone offside. Pickford's punt found Lindstrøm but he easily surrendered the ball. 

Trossard came on but his corner was duly repelled. Mykolenko trod on Saka's foot and the ball in sailed past everyone. Pickford stupidly kicked the ball way after Arsenal were offside, a petulant act taken as time-wasting by Pawson. 

Into the last 10 minutes of normal time, Arsenal becoming increasingly concerned. Broja was next to get a stupid booking trying to stall an Arsenal free-kick. 

Ndiaye went on a great run… ultimately to nowhere. Trossard put in a brilliant cross but somehow the Everton defenders were again perfectly positioned to block it away. Another Trossard cross crucially headed behind by Branthwatie for the corner and for a moment it looked like pinball but there were enough Blue shirts to put Saliba off.

Lindstrøm did brilliantly to get the ball off Trossard only to then stumble over it and put it out of play as he tried to break forward. Mykolenko did brilliantly to take the ball off Thomas Partey who crumbled and wanted the penalty,  but VAR said No. 

And it was Everton who won a late corner in added time, Lindstrøm to the back post but Tarkowski could not do much with it and Raya made his first save of the game. 

The Blues had held out brilliantly, Sean Dyche going home with the point he had at the start of this anti-football masterclass, with Everton still unbeaten in Dreadful Disasterous Doom-laden December. 

Arsenal: Raya; Timber, Saliba, Gabriel, Lewis-Skelly (69' Thomas); Rice (62' E Nwaneri), Merino (69' Jesus), Ødegaard (62' Jorginho); Saka, Martinelli (74' Trossard).

Subs not Used: R Sterling, Neto, Tierney,  Kiwior.

Everton:  Pickford [Y:78'], Mykolenko, Branthwaite, Tarkowski, Young [Y73'], Ndiaye, Mangala, Dououre, Gueye, Harrison (66' Lindstrøm), Calvert-Lewin (66' Broja [Y:81']).

Subs not Used: Virginia, Patterson, Keane, Beto, O'Brien, Coleman, Armstrong. 


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Iain Johnston
1 Posted 14/12/2024 at 14:02:32
McNeil not even on the bench, have I missed something?
Brian Wilkinson
2 Posted 14/12/2024 at 14:08:20
Injured Ian, but don’t worry, he will not have to get Dyche fit to get straight back in the team.

The perfect chance now to finally play Harrison on his favoured left side and Ndiaye on the right, let’s see if Dyche has one ounce of sense and plays Harrison on the left.

Michael Kenrick
3 Posted 14/12/2024 at 14:08:29
He's probably picked up an injury… or just been slapped by Sean Dyche and is sulking.
Derek Knox
4 Posted 14/12/2024 at 14:08:42
Do(nought)ucoure again ?
Mike Hayes
5 Posted 14/12/2024 at 14:15:51
Doucoure and DCL in AGAIN ffs Dychosaurus try changing it up a bit - despite that let’s hope for a win
Colin Glassar
6 Posted 14/12/2024 at 14:22:15
DinoSeanus, picking only one goalie for the bench? Well blow me down, matey.

Brian Wilkinson
8 Posted 14/12/2024 at 14:23:58
Derek, I can see Doucoure pulling up with a thigh strain, Dyche forced to put Harrison Armstrong on, will hold his own, be one of the few high spots, then will be dropped again.
Phil Smith
9 Posted 14/12/2024 at 14:28:55
Think Armstrong deserves a shot over Duke, who has looked off it for some time and is surely leaving in the summer. Harrison also won’t be back, so I’d keep Lindstrom there to find out if he’s worth keeping. Think there’s a player in there somewhere. Dyche will probably hammer any creativity out if him soon enough though.
Derek Knox
10 Posted 14/12/2024 at 14:29:15
Brian, he would have to move to get a thigh strain. fat chance !
Neil Lawson
11 Posted 14/12/2024 at 14:51:25
Dear Mr Dyche
Potentially your final game before the takeover. Your future is in your own hands and in the performance of the players. I hope they are committed to your cause.
You have chosen the team and you will dictate tactics.
In reality, I can not expect a victory or even a draw. This is Arsenal. However, what I, what all supporters, can expect and demand is a fully committed and organised performance for the duration of the match such that I can applaud you and the players even if, ultimately, the result goes against us.
Anything less and you should (and I say this politely despite the words in my head) depart our wonderful club forthwith and go and spread your misery elsewhere.
Yours sincerely
Neil Lawson.
Jerome Shields
12 Posted 14/12/2024 at 14:52:25
Dyche has to play a deep defensive formation.Hopefully will ebb forward and get the right connection.
Brendan McLaughlin
13 Posted 14/12/2024 at 14:56:03
Jerome #12

Who's Will Ebb?

Everything crossed here...

Colin Malone
14 Posted 14/12/2024 at 15:05:00
FFS Dyche, Ndiaye would have put that away.
Kieran Kinsella
15 Posted 14/12/2024 at 15:06:13
Wife bought tickets for a Japanese artsy movie about a cat so we are about to head out. Try and maintain the clean sheet while I’m gone.
Derek Knox
16 Posted 14/12/2024 at 15:22:25
Kieran, so it's like a Kat-aoke ?
Phil Smith
17 Posted 14/12/2024 at 15:48:15
Jack Harrison is absolutely shite. Needs to be hooked at half time. Offers nothing and just turns over possession. Get him off.
Michael Kenrick
18 Posted 14/12/2024 at 15:50:53
Doucoure… just totally fucking incompetent. Thinks he's got all the time in the world…

Unbelievable miss.

Pickford and the massed blockers have been good enough… just.

Alan J Thompson
19 Posted 14/12/2024 at 15:52:55
We've seen what our tactics are and when Arsenal score then it's game over but what was Doucoure doing with the chance he had? He was that slow a defender got back to divert his, eventual, effort. Still have to wonder when Dyche covers his mouth to say something to one of his offsiders, who does he think doesn't know what he has to offer. I'm not saying we should go on all out attack but we must have more imagination than this.
Phil Smith
20 Posted 14/12/2024 at 16:09:17
Get DCL off an’ all. Another who’s just going through the motions each game. Offering next to nothing up top.
Colin Malone
21 Posted 14/12/2024 at 16:24:50
Get Doucoure off FFS.
Jerome Shields
22 Posted 14/12/2024 at 16:31:29
Dyche making the changes at the right time for a change. Brojan giving Arsenal something to think about.

Brendan, When Arsenal ebb out of the game Everton will ebb forward.That is the only time Everton get forward under Dyche, except when he goes gungho..

Actually the game is going the way of my initial post.Here's hoping.

Brian Wilkinson
23 Posted 14/12/2024 at 16:56:02
Got it spot on today, Dyche, right subs at right times and a solid defensive display.

I doff my cap to him and the players.

Brian Williams
24 Posted 14/12/2024 at 16:58:07
Excellent point gained when loads forecast we'd get battered.

Wonder if they'll appear? 🤔

Andy Meighan
25 Posted 14/12/2024 at 16:59:56
Waiting to hear from all the Pickford baiters, yes you know who you are. I wonder where we'd be without him, another great performance from the Premier League's best keeper.

Brilliant defensive display and kept Arsenal at bay.

Delighted with that.

Michael Lynch
26 Posted 14/12/2024 at 16:59:59
Can't really fault that. Excellent point off a team that look on a different planet to us.

Pickford made some brilliant stops, but we snuffed out Arsenal's threat superbly.

Alan J Thompson
27 Posted 14/12/2024 at 17:00:22
Well the tactics worked and we've come away with a point we didn't expect. I could understand subbing Broja for Calvert-Lewin who had started to look a little disinterested but I didn't understand Lindstrom coming on or Doucoure staying on although you couldn't knock his effort.

Some of the refereeing looked a bit dodgy especially booking Pickford for kicking the ball away when the Arsenal player had just done the exact same thing.

Now to see how other results go.

Ian Bennett
28 Posted 14/12/2024 at 17:04:08
A knife to a gun fight? KITAP?

Fair play it's a decent point given the circumstances. Can't knock today.

Shaun Parker
29 Posted 14/12/2024 at 17:05:35
#21 Colin.

Agreed, the lad is hopeless. Every single pass goes astray.
He runs all day long but offers nothing.

Tell me anyone, can we cut short Harrison's loan and send him back?

George Cumiskey
30 Posted 14/12/2024 at 17:05:57
Well done the 9 men — because I wouldn't fucking count Harrison and Doucouré as part of the team… they were shocking again.
Graham Mockford
31 Posted 14/12/2024 at 17:09:50
You forgot to mention in your headline

….. and Calvert-Lewin failed to score. 😂

Derek Knox
32 Posted 14/12/2024 at 17:09:55
I'll take the point as an unexpected bonus but a catalogue of missed chances by Arsenal, and sometimes kamikaze Keystone Cop defending from us, somehow never produced a goal.

Why Doucoure was left on is beyond me, has he got something on Dyche or embarrassing photos with a Donkey?

Michael Lynch
33 Posted 14/12/2024 at 17:10:33
Amongst our men of the match (again) for me were 39-year-old Ashley Young, and 35-year-old Gana Gueye. Though kudos to Mykolenko for never giving up against Saka, and to Tarkowski for his leadership.

Pickford was exceptional. Maybe letting Tuchel know he has to stick with the current England Number 1.

Dave Older
34 Posted 14/12/2024 at 17:11:05
I know Dyche is not well liked by many on TW, but I think we have to give him a lot of credit getting a point at Arsenal today... and we kept a clean sheet against one of the best attacking teams in the Premier League.

Well done, Blues, we need battling performances like this each week, but particularly this month with our fixtures!!!

Martin Mason
35 Posted 14/12/2024 at 17:11:30
At one point in the second half, I felt ashamed that an Everton side could be so defensive… but I realise that it was actually a superb defensive performance and could give us a firm basis for a good run.

They would have slaughtered us if we had played attacking football. Mykolenko was superb and I think criticism of Pickford should be a medically certifiable illness.

All of the back 6 were great and special praise for Mangala and Lindstrøm when he came on, we must get Mangala on the books. Branthwaite was monumental.

A great result but please, there's only so much we can be expected to take.

Tom Bowers
36 Posted 14/12/2024 at 17:12:09
The result we all hoped for against a top team and if ever we get our offense sorted out just maybe we will be able to beat these teams.

Always necessary to put in a great defensive display which was nowhere to be seen at Old Trafford – pity about that.

Pickford shows his class again and I don't see a better keeper in the Premier League.

Arsenal are just not going to win the title in my book.

Jimmy Carr
37 Posted 14/12/2024 at 17:14:14
Neil Lawson (11) are you clapping?

Good point, a Dyche masterclass in the dark art of anti-football. Not what I always want to see but it will do for the rest of the season if we can keep grinding out results like today's.

The new owners may see things the same way.

Colin Crooks
38 Posted 14/12/2024 at 17:16:23
I've criticised Mykolenko regularly this season, but was that the tackle of the season I saw in the closing stages?
Kevin Molloy
39 Posted 14/12/2024 at 17:17:07
Little Mikel does not like it up 'em.

He does not like it up 'em one little bit.

Andy Crooks
40 Posted 14/12/2024 at 17:17:23
Great result. So pleased for the Blues who travelled to see it.

Gutted for the "Blues" who lost their correct score bets.

Michael Kenrick
41 Posted 14/12/2024 at 17:18:08
At least he didn't even bother trying this week, Graham. Stayed the wrong side of his marker any time the ball came near him, and made sure he was outside the penalty area on the rare occasion we went forward.

I'm convinced Dyche only plays him for his defensive contribution, but today I don't recall him heading any of those corners away.

Martin Mason
42 Posted 14/12/2024 at 17:19:51
Funnily enough, I saw Everton have a similar game away at Sheffield Wed in the '80s but we scored a late winner after being battered like today and then won Division 1.
Dave Abrahams
43 Posted 14/12/2024 at 17:19:57
The means justified the end, another point in the bag.

The defence played their part but Gana Gueye and his work rate is immense for the team.

Mike Gaynes
44 Posted 14/12/2024 at 17:21:30
"...criticism of Pickford should be a medically certifiable illness."

Great quip.

Peter Hodgson
45 Posted 14/12/2024 at 17:22:29
Good point away.

For once I have to praise Calvert-Lewin for effort going back but nothing worthwhile, as usual, from his main role up front. Subs brought on for once at a proper time giving them time to at least warm up properly, all to no avail unfortunately.

Thought Branthwaite, after his early blooper, played brilliantly and was our Man of the Match.

Fingers crossed that we see the Friedkins next weekend at Goodison.

Alan McGuffog
46 Posted 14/12/2024 at 17:23:49
Just found out Danny Cadamateri's son is playing for Lincoln. Feeling old !
Colin Malone
47 Posted 14/12/2024 at 17:24:00
Tarky. What a leader.
Colin Glassar
48 Posted 14/12/2024 at 17:25:39
A good, battling performance.

Where would we be without Pickford though? MotM.

Lee Courtliff
49 Posted 14/12/2024 at 17:28:12
It was obviously a great point considering the massive gulf between the sides, and the players really showed some grit but I have to say I found myself feeling very disinterested in the game as our offense was nearly non-existent.

I understand the situation we're in, the finances, etc but at times it was embarrassing to watch. We're Everton, yet we play like a team that's just been promoted to the Premier League for the first time. Anyway, on the positive side, it's 4 points from 3 games in December and many were predicting almost Zero points from this tough run.

(Yes, I know that saying "we're Everton" doesn't mean anything in the modern game, but even so…)

Julian Exshaw
51 Posted 14/12/2024 at 17:32:26
You have to credit the whole team for that point. Excellent defending from the front against an Arsenal team that even though was not at its best is always dangerous.

I don't think anyone has ever questioned Dyche's ability to get this kind of result. It won't win many fans but he got it spot on today.

Phil Smith
52 Posted 14/12/2024 at 17:33:43
Gana was very good. Mykolenko is a very good defender, but he does offer nothing going forward. Copy that for Young on the other side. He actually can get forward, but just doesn't have the legs anymore.

All played well except for the 3 players clearly not fit for purpose already mentioned enough times on here. Well done to the other Blues.

Simon Dalzell
53 Posted 14/12/2024 at 17:35:06
Lee (49).

Word Perfect. I can't add to it. Saved me rambling. (A well-deserved point.)

Gueye is Incredible. My MotM.

Paul Ferry
54 Posted 14/12/2024 at 17:37:54
Fucking Pickford. Do the maths. It's not hard. He costs us more points than he gains.

We need to look for a proper all-round keeper next month who bosses his box.

Chris Jones (Burton on Trent)
55 Posted 14/12/2024 at 17:43:24
Paul Ferry:

Enough already with the comedy/click-bait comments. It's circa 16 weeks to April Fool's day.

Stuart Sharp
56 Posted 14/12/2024 at 17:43:28
Paul, have you accidentally watched a stream of an old game?
Andy Crooks
57 Posted 14/12/2024 at 17:45:55
I bowed to no one in my lack of regard for Pickford. I thought he was overrated and, frankly, a liability.

I would like to eat those weasly words right now. He was, as were the players and coach, superb.

Martin Mason
58 Posted 14/12/2024 at 17:46:48
All of a sudden, we have 3 players who would probably get into any team in the Premier League, namely Pickford, Branthwaite and Gueye.

All defensive but, given the quality that they give the defence, it seems impossible that we could go down.

They'll lose fans though if they carry on like they are.

George Cumiskey
59 Posted 14/12/2024 at 17:47:47
The problem with Dyche is he has us playing exactly the same way against the bottom teams as we did against Arsenal.

That's why I'll be glad to see the back of him.

Kunal Desai
60 Posted 14/12/2024 at 17:48:38
Superb point in the end. Huge credit to the players, they were excellent and Pickford was immense.

Santa is certainly coming on cue for us Blues and delivering those presents: new ground, new owners, new manager (hopefully soon) and new players and football in the summer. UTFT.

Raymond Fox
61 Posted 14/12/2024 at 17:50:57
I said we would get something from the game — no, I tell a lie, I didn't think we had a chance of a point even. Good on the optimists among you who did.

15 points from 15 games, that will do nicely;, we are on track for staying up.

Grade One brainless moaning as usual at the start of the thread.

Paul Ferry
62 Posted 14/12/2024 at 17:51:55
Don't worry, fellow prof Stuart. I'm a staunch Pickfordian.

I was thinking of the folk who want him gone, dropped, or neutered.

Mike Gaynes
63 Posted 14/12/2024 at 17:55:19
Andy #57, I'm thrilled by your breakthrough, my friend.

Giving you a hug long-distance.

Graham Mockford
64 Posted 14/12/2024 at 17:55:57
Andy Crooks

More than just today. He's been excellent for 3 seasons. And he will keep getting better for a long time yet.

That's 6 clean sheets in his last 9 games.

Paul Ferry
65 Posted 14/12/2024 at 18:00:40
Not Gueye, Martin, but I agree that he was great today.

Keep an eye on Broja. If he can stay clear of injuries for a couple of seasons with that physique and pace…

Kieran Kinsella
66 Posted 14/12/2024 at 18:07:25
Back from the cat movie.

Clean sheet intact. Job done.

Kieran Kinsella
67 Posted 14/12/2024 at 18:12:01
Brian Williams,

It's probably not the game to have a pop at pessimists who didn't expect much. Our record v Arsenal is our worst record against any club.

Even when we've had great sides, we usually lose to them, so pessimism for this one was entirely rational. But the good thing about football is you get the odd pleasant surprise.

Si Cooper
68 Posted 14/12/2024 at 18:16:00
Commentators on official site (Diamond and Darren Griffith/ Graham Beecroft?) praised Calvert-Lewin for his effort and highlighted our general lack of retention when we did have the ball.

Apparently one assistant ref was an absolute disgrace and the ref (Pawson?) characteristically easily swayed by the home crowd. The remaining official was apparently praiseworthy.

A hard-earned and useful point but Doucoure is not a foot-on-the-ball play orchestrator, is he?

A promising 17-year-old playing for the U18s was mentioned as potentially not far off first team footy. Anyone know who that would be?

Answer that myself – Harrison Armstrong. I'm embarrassed to say I hadn't realised how young he is.

Martin Mason
69 Posted 14/12/2024 at 18:17:20
It was a great point. Would it have been better if it had been end to end and could have gone either way? Yes, much better… but this season, staying in the Premier League is critical.

Over to you now, the new owners, I think you have made a good buy and that we have already turned the corner.

Mal van Schaick
70 Posted 14/12/2024 at 18:19:28
Excellent defensive dogs of war performance, and needless to say not much in the way of creativity.

But it's a point in the bag against a decent team. Well done!

Stuart Sharp
71 Posted 14/12/2024 at 18:23:01
Thank goodness Paul. Thought I'd slipped into a parallel universe. Must be the effects of getting a point at the Emirates.
Jerome Shields
72 Posted 14/12/2024 at 18:28:26
Great result.

But what was Dyche doing against Man Utd?

Neil Lawson
73 Posted 14/12/2024 at 18:29:52
It is a terrific point earned that was, in the main, unexpected. Credit where it is due.

However, we can not set out to do the same against all the top clubs. One goal against and we are totally screwed, unless we consider that a 0 -1 is acceptable rather than a heavier beating?

The current issue appears to be whether survival this season on the back of turgid dross is our ambition or whether we try to kick on now with a new manager. I know what my choice would be.

Joe McMahon
74 Posted 14/12/2024 at 18:33:06
I missed most of today as my wife was in hospital (nothing too serious). But pleasantly surprised at the result. As many have said, we'll take it.

I just wish we could have defended like this earlier in the season.

Sam Hoare
75 Posted 14/12/2024 at 18:33:40
Andy @57

You weren't exactly wrong. Pickford was certainly inconsistent for his first few seasons and the stats support this. But he's been much improved for the last 3 years or so. He actually started this season poorly but has stepped up over the last month or so.

A very solid point. One of the reasons Dyche was an excellent appointment for us is that he has a habit of grinding out points, even in tough games. Not sure that will be the limit of our aspirations in seasons to come but it may be enough for him to see out his contract.

Interesting to see TFG's decision on him.

Martin Mason
76 Posted 14/12/2024 at 18:33:49
Paul @65,

I love Broja but Chelsea's price is probably more than we can pay?

Gueye's swansong for Everton is great to see though and hopefully more to come? What a buy he was for the cost.

Jeff Armstrong
77 Posted 14/12/2024 at 18:40:55
Great defensive performance today, back 5 were all good when performing defensive duties; Mangala and Gueye excellent in midfield.

Second half perfomance was immense from everyone, Dyche included.

George Cumiskey
78 Posted 14/12/2024 at 18:41:31
Why is everyone giving Dyche credit for that result?

When that's the tactics he employs against every team, top or bottom, all credit to the defence and Arsenal's poor performance in the last third. 🤔

Steve Shave
79 Posted 14/12/2024 at 18:43:19
Fabulous point, just the tonic. My Gooner mates not happy one bit. :)

When Oh when are the Pickford haters just going to shut the fuck up? I've been saying it for 2½ seasons now, he is a fantastic keeper and we are so fortunate to have him. Certainly up there as the best in the league.

The Pickford haters are the ones who booed Iwobi who is pulling up trees this season for Fulham, he has the highest decisive balls played in the final third this season in the Premier League, not bad for a team mid-table. Some people can't pick out a good player in a dysfunctional club, drives me crazy.

Doucoure will hopefully be sold in the window, I hope so, he is on top money but we need better if we are looking forwards. Come on, Saudi teams – give us an offer!

I wonder if the new ownership announcement the other day put a rocket up a few who have been feeling too cosy?

Pleased for Mykolenko today too who on his day can be a really solid defensive left-back. Just watched the Ipswich highlights, what I wouldn't give for Delap, he holds it up like Calvert-Lewin, runs at defences like Cunha, and can finish too, still really young too.

Graham Mockford
80 Posted 14/12/2024 at 18:47:15
George

Have a day off mate. I don't think we should renew his contract if we have some money to invest into the squad but the hard truth is this squad lacks real quality, a team of journeymen apart from Pickford and Branthwaite. Dyche will get as much as anyone from them.

Let's just get to May and stay in the Premier League.

Jeff Armstrong
81 Posted 14/12/2024 at 18:50:35
George @78,

That's why we're on 15 points from 15 games and why we'll be on 38 points from 38 games.

We'll be shit against shit teams, decent against decent teams; today was one of those decent performances.

Give Dyche a bit of credit when it's due, he will and has kept us in the Premier League for potentially 3 seasons… name me another manager who could do the same with that squad?

Phil Roberts
82 Posted 14/12/2024 at 18:56:13
Martin Mason #42,

I think you mean April 85 but we scored after about 30 minutes and Southall played a blinder, especially the save from Olive's header.

First 4 games = 13 goals. Last 11, okay let's forget Man Utd – Last 10 = 4 goals. The issue is now at the other end of the pitch. At least today it was not a profligate striker – we just didn't create any chances.

Bad news was Ipswich winning - but otherwise the promoted clubs are doing no better than the ones that went down last season and Wolves are in meltdown. We should be okay.

But someone answer me this: If we have had PSR issues, then why, all of a sudden, can we spend money in January?

Or is it we had PSR limits and then, in August, Moshiri did not want to spend because he was not going to get his money back and we had PSR space but just chose not to use it?

Roll on the Friedkins and what a way to greet them by lighting up the new stadium for the first time.

Ernie Baywood
83 Posted 14/12/2024 at 18:56:42
Greatly welcome and unexpected point, and a very defensively resilient performance.

But as I said pre-match, these aren't the games that Dyche is being judged on. He doesn't have the resources to compete in these games so it's justifiable to hope for a 0-0. It's playing for a 0-0 in winnable games that will end his tenure.

Andy Crooks
84 Posted 14/12/2024 at 18:57:11
George, who would you give the credit to?

Did you blame him for the thumping at Old Trafford? Mmm… I think you did.

George Cumiskey
85 Posted 14/12/2024 at 18:58:10
Jeff @ 81,

How the fuck will we ever know how good we can be if we have a go at teams, when we never try?

Don't you remember the Southampton game and the West Ham game and the 10-man Brentford game when we had the chance to have a real go at them… but no — we just played the same old tactics: sit back and hope for a breakaway?

Andy Crooks
86 Posted 14/12/2024 at 19:00:05
George, do you think we should have had a go today?

I would suggest it might have backfired.

Andy Crooks
87 Posted 14/12/2024 at 19:06:30
Ernie, I think that the Bournemouth defeat led to what you, rightly to some extent, are saying.

Had we won that game, in which we, by the way, never went for a 0-0, we would be in an entirely different place.

George Cumiskey
88 Posted 14/12/2024 at 19:08:00
No, Andy, I know we couldn't have gone gung-ho against Arsenal today.

I said we play exactly the same way against the bottom teams, when we should have a go.

Paul Birmingham
89 Posted 14/12/2024 at 19:16:52
Credit to Everton today and a well-earned point.

Hopefully this clean sheet on top ofc the Wolves game will provide added confidence for the Chelsea game.

Many positives to take from this game.

Peter Moore
90 Posted 14/12/2024 at 19:20:06
George @88.

We had the best chance of the game, wasted by Doucouré.

Give your head a wobble.

George Cumiskey
91 Posted 14/12/2024 at 19:24:39
For fuck's sake, give my head a wobble?

Did you actually watch the match? You won, I give up.

Paul Johnson
92 Posted 14/12/2024 at 19:26:46
George, sorry but you're pissing in the wind with some of this crew.

Don't get me wrong – a point I am extremely happy with but the lack of ambition from our manager is sickening.

I watched the game with my two lads and the only time I got out of my seat was to scream at the totally inept Doucouré waste the best chance of the game.

Tom Bowers
93 Posted 14/12/2024 at 19:36:32
Anyone else convinced Referees are as poor as they have ever been?

The ref. at the Villa - Forest game was awful and should be struck off. I hope he doesn't get another Premier League game.

The VAR was poor as well. Some things will never change.

Mick O'Malley
94 Posted 14/12/2024 at 19:42:16
George, I agree: especially at home, we should always be trying to win the game.

I can accept the dour defensive shite away but, at home, Goodison responds to us being on the front foot and trying to win the game.

Good point away today but we are awful to watch in my opinion.

Brendan McLaughlin
95 Posted 14/12/2024 at 19:50:36
Very good point today.

All that really matters is that we stay in the Premier League this season and, with our new stadium and owners, we can begin to put the nightmare of the last decade behind us.

George Cumiskey
96 Posted 14/12/2024 at 19:58:06
Thanks Mick 👍
Dave Lynch
97 Posted 14/12/2024 at 19:59:53
I'll take the point gratefully... but that display was woefully short of any creativity and intent.

The sooner Dyche is given the 'Spanish Archer', the better, we can't go on playing back-foot football forever, it's fucking embarrassing.

Peter Moore
98 Posted 14/12/2024 at 20:00:11
In our absolute shambles of a situation, no net investment in squad for over 5 years in this Moneyball league, it helps to be objective. That is very difficult of course as we only love Everton.

But, objectively, to keep Arsenal to nil – I think that was 12/1 with the bookies – is a minor miracle.

To think a front foot performance could have yielded more is, in my opinion, absolutely fucking stupid, thick, deluded, unrealistic, bollocks.

Of course, as a polite person, I would not describe it as such. Just to say, you are entitled to your opinion, which I think is absurd.

UTFT. Well done to the Ginger Messiah.

George Cumiskey
99 Posted 14/12/2024 at 20:00:57
And Paul 👍
George Cumiskey
100 Posted 14/12/2024 at 20:03:31
Who mentioned a front-foot performance against Arsenal????
George Cumiskey
101 Posted 14/12/2024 at 20:08:54
Is a front-foot performance against Southampton deluded, stupid, a load of bollocks, thick, unrealistic?

But I'm too polite to say it. I rest my case. 🤣😂

Jeff Armstrong
102 Posted 14/12/2024 at 20:10:09
George @88,

Don't you realise that this is the way we will stay up? It's not pretty but it's practical.

And frankly, I don't care if I'm entertained this season, I just want to stay up and go into the new stadium as a Premier League club – it's so much more important than playing well and getting beat.

Peter Moore
103 Posted 14/12/2024 at 20:10:10
George. Me. Guilty as charged. UTFT.

Great point today and yes, may we put shit teams to the sword at Goodison, like Wolves.

Kim Vivian
104 Posted 14/12/2024 at 20:10:13
Don't read this wrong but has Dyche ever had a decent budget to work with? Or is he simply a fire fighter with no further skills.

I know he had a brief good spell with Burnley before going down and bouncing back but, if it means getting a couple of good players in January as a result of not having to pay him off, I think we will see the season out – and may, just may, surprise some folk.

As I say, don't read this wrong because I am not pro-Dyche… but we might never know.

Jimmy Carr
105 Posted 14/12/2024 at 20:10:23
So the posters saying "the sooner Dyche goes, the better" don't even offer up an idea of who will take over and suddenly wave a magic wand and improve these players. For fuck's sake!

I'm not his biggest advocate but credit where credit's due for today. Hopefully our new overlords won't pay too much attention to ToffeeWeb.

Mike Gaynes
106 Posted 14/12/2024 at 20:25:56
Paul #92,

If that was the only time you got out of your seat, you obviously weren't among the throngs of travelling Blues roaring on their feet throughout the last 15 minutes, bringing the lads home through sheer volume and mass will.

They were magnificent.

Brendan McLaughlin
107 Posted 14/12/2024 at 20:26:36
George #101,

Not trying to be controversial but who was the last Everton manager to play on the front foot even against the "lesser" teams?

I remember even Carlo saying "I am not a magician."

Lampard perhaps… but I never really figured out what Frank was trying to do.

Nigel Scowen
108 Posted 14/12/2024 at 20:26:59
Brendan @95

Hear, hear!!

Bill Gienapp
109 Posted 14/12/2024 at 20:31:46
Not much to say. Great defensive performance. We set up to take a point on the road against a top side and that's what we managed to do. It would feel more satisfying if we weren't also settling for scoreless draws at home against the likes of West Ham and Brentford.

We haven't scored in five of our last six. That's bad. But we've kept a clean sheet in four of our last five. That's good. The teams that can't defend are the ones that tend to get relegated come season's end.

Andrew Clare
110 Posted 14/12/2024 at 20:34:28
Well, I didn't expect to get anything from today's game so 1 point is an excellent result for us.

Let's hope we can do the same against Chelsea and Man City.

Andy Crooks
111 Posted 14/12/2024 at 20:34:32
Paul Johnson, you really shouldn't be describing fellow Blues as " some of this crew".

If the seat you "got out of" was at The Emirates, then fair play to you, well done for travelling all that way with your lads and I respect your opinion.

If it was in your living room, I think you should consider winding your fucking neck in.

Rob Dolby
112 Posted 14/12/2024 at 20:37:07
Gueye was my MotM today, he looks better with Mangala next to him. I know he is 35 but we should be offering him a new deal — maybe just a rolling year-long contract.

I also would prefer having Beto starting in games like this, he makes his own chances. Calvert-Lewin just doesn't look arsed to me.

John Keating
113 Posted 14/12/2024 at 20:38:03
Nobody wants us seeing how we are doing now
I would just ask everyone to accept things as they are today

My “team” was the '63 lads. For others, it's the '70s.
Others are the '80s. Regardless, we just have to hope we get professional businessmen in to run us and appoint the correct people.

We have a long long long way to travel to get back where we belong. Let's just get through this season, get rid of every player out of contract, though I'd keep Virginia, and start afresh next season.

Great point, however earned, today!

Niall McIlhone
114 Posted 14/12/2024 at 20:39:11
The Gana/ Mangala axis in defensive midfield is starting to look a bit tasty? I was taken as to how the two complemented each other by pressing the Arsenal player in possession, one staying off and marking the player most likely to receive a pass whilst one sprinted to close down the ball. Simple stuff, yes, but both put a shift in and left it all on the pitch. This was crucial in getting the draw today. We don't look like we are going to get overrun in midfield, but the wide players need to improve in retaining possession.

Pickford was outstanding today: I have always had concerns about him dominating the box, but – fair play – he looked well up for this game, and his mental focus seems very sharp.

I am beginning to think the home game against Chelsea might not be quite the daunting prospect it first appeared to be a couple of weeks ago.

Jeff Armstrong
115 Posted 14/12/2024 at 20:42:43
Mangala & Gueye we're brilliant today, as they were against Wolves.

They've got to be the favoured two going forward in the middle.

John Raftery
116 Posted 14/12/2024 at 20:56:18
An excellent point. The defensive shape was perfect in a splendid team performance. That was why the vast majority of supporters in the away section stayed at the end to applaud the players for their efforts.

Branthwaite was lucky another glaring error was not punished. Physically he looks below his best at present.

Mykolenko once again performed well nullifying the threat posed by Saka.

Our three central midfielders worked themselves almost to a standstill to see off Ødegaard and Rice and their replacements.

Plainly we lack quality going foward. Ndiaye can dribble and is industrious tracking back. There is little evidence however he is more than a £17M player in terms of an end product measured by shots, passes or crosses. But he's the best of our wide attackers.

Calvert-Lewin is still by some distance our best centre forward. Broja was unconvincing today. He will hopefully benefit from his half-hour on the pitch but it is too early to suggest he is anything like ready for a place in the starting eleven.

Today we were up against an expensively assembled squad with quality players in every position and on the bench. Well done, Sean Dyche and his band of loanees and end-of-contract journeymen, for grinding out a draw.

Andy Meighan
117 Posted 14/12/2024 at 20:58:42
What Dyche and his coaches see in Doucoure and Harrison is beyond me, they offer the team absolutely nothing.

Doucoure in particular must be world class at Finch Farm because how he's keeping his place is beyond me, the man hasn't got a clue how to pass a ball how to trap a ball or how to strike a ball – and please don't say the Bournemouth game because that was one he got lucky with.

Mandala and Gueye carried him and Harrison today even Ndiaye showed them how to kill a ball in an instant, something Bambi could never do.

Once a new gaffer comes in, he'll see right through the likes of them two and the innefective McNeil and, given time, get a DoF who can spot a player because Thelwell sure the hell can't.

Harrison, Beto, Lindstrøm — all poor poor players. And let's not forget his pursuit of Che Adams and Gnonto – my god, how would anyone think them two would improve us is beyond me.

Jeff Armstrong
118 Posted 14/12/2024 at 21:05:01
John Rafferty @116.

Good post.

Brent Stephens
119 Posted 14/12/2024 at 21:13:26
So many positive posts on this thread about our performance against a side pressing for the Premier League title. What a contrast to the Live Forum. (Okay, so what's new?)

The journeymen brought the jetsetters down to earth at (I was almost going to type Highbury!)... The Emirates.

A couple of points from the next two difficult games and this would be a very pleasing return from a run of games that was always going to be testing for us.

Brendan McLaughlin
120 Posted 14/12/2024 at 21:15:17
Seriously John #116

You should be writing a regular column on here.

You have the "gift"

Michael/Lyndon...sign him up!

Kieran Kinsella
121 Posted 14/12/2024 at 21:20:18
Everyone is having a pop at George but his point I think is that today it worked against a really good team; ergo, maybe we could be more expansive against lesser teams?
Derek Thomas
122 Posted 14/12/2024 at 21:23:48
*checks Inbox...your early Christmas present has been delivered.

Please do not reply, this message comes from an unmonitored email. Rate our performance here

8/10

Brendan McLaughlin
123 Posted 14/12/2024 at 21:25:41
Kieran #121,

Maybe that's how the show with the cat worked out... but it's not real life.

Andy Crooks
124 Posted 14/12/2024 at 21:40:18
Yes, Brendan, I think that the admirable John Rafferty (a top man) is the man to replace Ken Buckley.

Reasoned, balanced opinion. Yes, out of place on here, but just what we need.

Jeff Armstrong
125 Posted 14/12/2024 at 21:43:48
15 from 15
38 (or less 34 ?) From 38
It’s were we are at with this manager,
Anyone fancy changing it at the moment?
Suppose we get someone in who wants to play expansive attacking football, and we end up on 30 points?
Nah, I’ll take my chances with Dyche for this season.
Paul Hewitt
126 Posted 14/12/2024 at 21:44:13
How come other teams go to places like Arsenal, have a go… and sometimes win?
Mark Murphy
127 Posted 14/12/2024 at 21:53:17
Just got back from the game.
A good, unexpected to be honest, point, but we fucking earned that. I was right next to the home fans (only Danny O between us) and they were gutted (and really fucking silly).
A great defensive performance but I never thought we were in trouble. An Arsenal fan in the pub after the game got upset when I said “you look better on the telly”, but honestly? I thought we dealt with them exceptionally well!
Someone said we got battered? No we didn’t. We conceded possession but, as not a Dyche fan, we got it right!
They look good on the telly - we earned a good point.
UTFThey shalt not passT!
Jeff Armstrong
128 Posted 14/12/2024 at 21:54:02
Paul 126, you know the answer,

They don’t have Sean Dyche as manager right?

But some go there and get beat 5/6 -0

Sometimes us,

today we didn’t.

Phil Roberts
129 Posted 14/12/2024 at 21:54:51
Paul - what clubs?
Since our win Chelsea, City (2), Liverpool, Brighton (2), Villa and West Ham.

Apart from the last, they are teams who go toe to toe with everyone these days.

Mark Murphy
130 Posted 14/12/2024 at 21:56:00
As for those saying we'd lose 3-0, 1-0, get battered etc…
where were you today?

I bet you were on the Live Forum giving us shit!

Andy Crooks
131 Posted 14/12/2024 at 21:57:14
Paul, I think the editors are considering some kind of award ceremony for posters at the end of the year. I am, with your permission, nominating your last beaut. What category? I'll leave it to anyone with a suggestion.
By the way, I assume your betting slip( the correct score one) is in the bin. Liverpool dropping two points as well, I assume you backed them to win 4-0. Never mind, you can't win them all.
Jeff Armstrong
132 Posted 14/12/2024 at 21:57:31
Mark Murphy#127

“a good, honest,well earned point”

Perfectly put by someone who was there today….thank you,

Watched the full 90 on my dodgy stick ,ok,not the full match day experience. but more than a lot who comment on here without watching the full game or even 20 minutes .

Tony Abrahams
133 Posted 14/12/2024 at 21:57:47
John Rafferty, also watches every single Everton game from inside the stadium Brendan, and has probably done so for that much of his life, that he his always worth listening to when he speaks about the teams performance.

I remember Marco Silva trying to have a good go at some of the better teams, and I can also remember Martinez sometimes trying to do likewise, but those performances have been few and far between over the last 30 years since Joe Royle's Dogs of War didn't give a fuck for anyone.

Paul Hewitt
134 Posted 14/12/2024 at 22:05:31
I'd happily have lost today if we had gone to Southampton, Leicester and West Ham and had a go and probably have won. That's an extra 7 points we would have had.

With this manager, we will continue to just sit back and hope to nick a point. How we have fallen

John Raftery
135 Posted 14/12/2024 at 22:07:06
Thanks for your kind words Brendan, Andy and Jeff. I always enjoy reading the reports from Danny, Paul T, Dave W and others. Therefore I think we are very well served in terms of match reports from individual contributors as well as those from the mighty duo of Michael and Lyndon.

As a someone who is lucky enough to be able to attend every game I am more than privileged to share my thoughts in the comments section. More than that might be seen as overstaying my welcome if you know what I mean!

Jeff Armstrong
136 Posted 14/12/2024 at 22:16:48
John R 135 you are not lost in the away support from my standpoint, I always look out for your points of view especially the away games, I’m sure you enjoyed today’s performance as a well earned point at a very difficult place to go and get anything, Like you I’m a bit disappointed in the reaction to a brilliant away point.
Kieran Kinsella
137 Posted 14/12/2024 at 22:18:31
Brendan

For the record I’m not anti Dyche. I think he worked wonders at Burnley, did what we needed here and don’t advocate sacking him but I do reserve the right to criticize if I think we could have done better in various games.

Brendan McLaughlin
138 Posted 14/12/2024 at 22:19:09
Yes Tony #133

I love that scouse thing...even when they are agreeing with you...you think they want to throw you off the top balcony.

I can't complain however. When I was in last in Liverpool I was told with my accent that you could tell someone "you loved them" and it would come across as a threat.

"Possession Martinez" not for me...Silva may be one we let go too early.

Not sure where that post came from other than the the last time in Liverpool I enjoyed it so much. Apologies.

Jeff Armstrong
139 Posted 14/12/2024 at 22:29:50
So Kieran, potentially we get new owners next week, do you sack Dyche ? Or keep hlm?

Personally I’d keep him for the foreseeable

Brendan McLaughlin
140 Posted 14/12/2024 at 22:39:11
Kieran #137

I see it "in the round"

Not many of us get everything right...but if we get enough?

Jeff Armstrong
141 Posted 14/12/2024 at 22:45:39
December negativity 0 points

Reality EFC. 4 points, still half the month to go

+ We always win a Christmas game

COYB

Mark Murphy
142 Posted 14/12/2024 at 22:48:32
Jeff
He got it right today
I’d keep him until the end of the season.
UTFT
Brendan McLaughlin
143 Posted 14/12/2024 at 22:50:05
Andy #131

I'm putting a tenner on the "Grumpy Old Man" category. Does "Crooks" have one or two "o's"?

Jeff Armstrong
144 Posted 14/12/2024 at 22:52:50
Mark 142 your a fully paid up blue, if he’s good enough for you he’s good enough for the rest of the season, why change now?
Could go tits up if we twist now.
Brian Williams
145 Posted 14/12/2024 at 22:58:01
Paul#134.
You'd have happily lost today because that was your prediction.
Brian Williams
146 Posted 14/12/2024 at 23:00:05
Andy#131.

Tosser category?

Fred Quick
147 Posted 14/12/2024 at 23:01:02
I love Everton as much as the next fan, but I'm always torn between what is deemed to be practical / acceptable and what we should aspire to be.

I currently hate watching Everton away from Goodison, so I mostly choose not to. I know that it's very different being at the ground, surrounded by thousands of fellow supporters, all of them getting behind the team and being happy if the team comes away with a point or three, sometimes, regardless of the overall performance.

I also realise that Everton staying up this season, is particularly important, because it's the final one at Goodison, and we need to be in the top-flight in order for the new owners to have some breathing space to assess and decide what they want to do with the club.

How we played today should perhaps have been employed in our last away fixture at Old Trafford, and we may have gotten something from that match. How we played today, is probably how we'll play in our next two fixtures too. Should we employ similar tactics at home to Forest or the other sides who have more pace and ability than we currently have?

How or when do we begin to edge our way out of what seems to be this necessary but settled style? We won't be getting too many better players in the next twelve months, we may not even get a better manager than Dyche to achieve what is deemed necessary, but my word it's the very essence of functional football.

Whilst gaining a point a game achieves the overall objective, how long should we refrain from asking for a little better?

The new stadium won't automatically alter our footballing abilities, and there's nothing to say that we won't be taking the pragmatic route for quite a few seasons to come. Some will accept that as a price worth paying, I'm not at all certain whether I'd agree with them, as at some point we'll have to begin building a team that can play a little more expansively than it currently does.

Paul Hewitt
148 Posted 14/12/2024 at 23:03:35
I'm convinced some on here, if they owned a donkey and put it in the grand national would be sure it would win
Brendan McLaughlin
149 Posted 14/12/2024 at 23:03:35
Seriously Brian #145

Keep it real.

Thinking or indeed expecting us to lose...doesn't mean someone is happy if we do.

Brian Williams
150 Posted 14/12/2024 at 23:09:54
Constantly predicting and seemingly relishing it when we do, does!

I'll say what I see week in week out.

With all due respect I don't need you to tell me to keep it real.

Some just don't know what supporting is all about.

You have the likes of Bournemouth and Palace and other supporters who know they'll win fuck all year after year yet they get behind their team, their club week in week out and then you have some, who probably never even go near Goodison, who relish being negative and just decrying anything positive.

Phil Roberts
151 Posted 14/12/2024 at 23:11:45
Paul - waiting for an answer . . . . . . . .
Brendan McLaughlin
152 Posted 14/12/2024 at 23:12:26
Wow Paul #148

I thought you would argue if the donkey had the right jockey and was fed organic carrots & went 442...it would win.

Paul Hewitt
153 Posted 14/12/2024 at 23:13:36
I don't constantly predict a loss and to say I relish it is bloody stupid. I wish we could win every game, but that clearly isn't going to happen.
Jeff Armstrong
154 Posted 14/12/2024 at 23:20:49
Brendan McLaughlin
155 Posted 14/12/2024 at 23:31:43
Brian #150

It's ToffeeWeb... it's only opinion. I hope Everton can always win but I'm not always confidant.

People post a lot of shit but they do not want Everton to lose any game nor do they relish when they are correct when we lose.

Doesn't make them less blue.

Rob Halligan
156 Posted 14/12/2024 at 23:43:14
Brian # 145…….his prediction was 4-0…….well to be fair he got half of his right!

All told, a great defensive display. A couple of dodgy passes by JB nearly let them in, but nothing was getting past Englands number one today. Ok, our offensive movements were minimal, but let’s be honest, not many teams will go to the Emirates and attack them. Not many teams will go and keep a clean sheet either.

DCL ran his nuts off, but yet again as a lone striker, got nowhere. Mangala and Gueye provided great cover in front of the back four, restricting Arsenal to only about four or five shots on target, three of which were brilliantly kept out by JP. Thought Broja looked decent again, getting a good thirty minutes or so run out. Pity he can’t play next week. Couple of good runs by Ndiaye in the second half ultimately led to nothing, but at least he is prepared to take his man on, unlike Jack Harrison, who will not be missed if he returns to Leeds next summer.

So another long day comes to an end, but a good day all round, with a result not many on here expected or predicted,…………4-0……..😁😁😁😁

Andy Crooks
157 Posted 15/12/2024 at 00:16:06
Nice one, Brendan!!!
John Raftery
158 Posted 15/12/2024 at 00:50:51
Hi Tony (133) Yes, I’ve been going to away games for over 55 years often hitch hiking in the early years to save money! I’ve seen us lose more aways than we have won but those matches in which we totally dominated the play were unforgettable and made it all worthwhile.

I really hope in the years ahead we can build a squad capable of competing on something approaching equal terms with the best clubs. We are way off that at the moment; in fact in a much worse position than we were eight or nine years ago. Making the best of the limited talent available is why I think Sean Dyche is the manager best suited to guiding us through these tough times.

Kieran Kinsella
159 Posted 15/12/2024 at 01:28:37
Brian Williams

If your son was a car thief and you worried he’d get caught does it make you a bad parent if you tell him so? And a good one if you say “carry on lad” then he comes home with a stolen car and you celebrate his success? You can be supportive in terms of wanting the best without blindly accepting everything that transpires without second guessing it.


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