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Everton went into the final hours of the summer 2024 transfer window expecting to get at least one incoming and one outgoing deal done but ended up bringing in two new players, one of them at the very last minute.

Orel Mangala had arrived on Merseyside last evening to undergo a successful medical and he completed a loan move of his own to Goodison Park from Lyon.

Everton struck a deal with the Ligue 1 club for the Belgian international this week and he became the second signing of the close season from Parc Olympique Lyonnais and the Blues’ seventh overall.

The Club were hopeful they could land another pacy winger before the deadline but ultimately failed with a late move for Ernest Nuamah before very late-breaking news of a loan approach for forward Armando Broja.

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A fee was reportedly agreed with Lyon for the Ghanaian but the Blues were unable to persuade him to move to Merseyside over London. Fulham eventually appeared to have won the race to sign him pending the completion of the necessary paperwork before the window closes but that deal was still not done by the time the window closed.

As the deadline passed, it emerged that Everton had lodged a bid for Broja with Chelsea to take the Albanian international on loan with a £30m option to buy next summer. A deal sheet was submitted just in time, with the two clubs having a further two hours to complete the necessary paperwork, with confirmation coming in around 2am. 

Neal Maupay has returned to his native France, initially on loan to Marseille who have agreed to purchase the striker for €5.5m at the end of the season, while

Mason Holgate was once again surplus to requirements and available. Sheffield Wednesday made an approach for the defender after a switch to Lyon reportedly fell through but late in the evening a return to West Bromwich Albion on loan emerged as the most likely opportunity for him and he departed for the Hawthorns for the remainder of the season.

There was also the possibility that up-and-coming youngsters could secure season-long loan moves. Jenson Metcalfe has joined Chesterfield on a season-long loan, Billy Crellin has made a temporary switch to Accrington Stanley while Francis Okoronkwo has joined Salford City for the year. Halid Djankpata has left for Spezia on a permanent basis.

Coming into the Under-21s setup is Francis Gomez who has been picked up from Nigerian club Sporting Supreme and set straight out on loan to Lyon for the season.

Sean Dyche intimated during his press conference ahead of Saturday’s Premier League clash with Bournemouth, however, that Harrison Armstrong and Roman Dixon may need to remain to bolster a stretched squad. 

Dyche was also asked if Maupay’s departure would free up funds to enable the Club to bring in another new face but the manager was typically cautious with his words.

“Not necessarily,” he replied. “The money’s absorbed into the club in different ways so we'll have to wait and see. And it's not just about money you understand, it's the availability at this late stage of the window — who’s out there, who could be done, who might not be able to be done, that sort of thing.”

On Mangala, Dyche had confirmed that the midfielder was on his way to Merseyside and that he was hopeful the transfer would get over the line.

“He's a player who is making his way over, but there's still a lot to do with the details of any deal, as there always is, of course,” the manager said. “But there's a chance of getting him over and seeing if that deal can be done.

“He's got a bit more know-how that some of the other plans we've brought in having played in the Premier League.”

Meanwhile, though there has been plenty of speculation over his future, Dominic Calvert-Lewin looks set to remain at Everton, with Dyche expressing his hope that there would be no 11th-hour bid for the striker that might tempt the Club into cashing in.

Paul Joyce of The Times reports that Chelsea discussed a £10m deal that would see David Datro Fofana go in the other direction but the two clubs were far apart on valuation and Everton had no interest in Fofana. 

 

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Si Cooper
1 Posted 30/08/2024 at 00:43:52
“Sean Dyche intimated during his press conference ahead of Saturday’s Premier League clash with Bournemouth that Harrison Armstrong and Roman Dixon may need to remain to bolster a stretched squad.”

May need??? Have I just woken up in an alternative reality?

Bill Watson
2 Posted 30/08/2024 at 00:59:23
Si #1

Yes, I had to do a double take of that comment, too!

Bob Parrington
3 Posted 30/08/2024 at 01:24:20
Maybe he needed to add just a few more words to complete his minimum commitment??
Ian McAvoy
4 Posted 30/08/2024 at 01:35:20
If we get £30m we should get rid of DCL. He needs a fresh start somewhere else. There’s a good player in him but no longer in a Dyche team. Shame really.
Derek Knox
5 Posted 30/08/2024 at 01:35:24
A bit like his explanation of why O' Brien, who I thought had an excellent game against Doncaster, and Lindstrom, who was played out of position, to a lesser degree, are not ready for Premier League Action. In other words, shoe-in those who have experience, but continually under-perform !

I was supportive of Dyche but he is gradually ' grinding my gears, as Peter Griffin puts it '.

Paul Kernot
6 Posted 30/08/2024 at 02:55:54
Further to that Derek and I know it's a bit off topic. I just read about Lee Carsley's squad choices for his first couple of games in charge of the England team. How interesting it would be if he did well in those games, was then eventually replaced by the new, full time England coach and Carsley's availability coincided with Textor's completion of his take over of Everton.
Ernie Baywood
7 Posted 30/08/2024 at 03:00:05
Ian, I'm not sure any striker will look good in a Dyche team. It's not set up for him to succeed, but he needs to do his job and it's still a very important job in this setup.

Financially, it's going to make absolute sense to take an offer for DCL, but I just don't see how we stay in this league without a striker. Beto doesn't yet appear to be a realistic option.

Paul Kernot
8 Posted 30/08/2024 at 03:06:42
Not is Chemiti Ernie, not even if they were played together in a version of 4-4-2, which we know Dyche will never do.
John Atkinson
9 Posted 30/08/2024 at 03:12:29
I'm a pragmatic man and want to see DCL go, Holgate, Kean and young. I can't see any elite type players coming in, but Trippier and Mangala are good shouts. I'd love Richarlison and Lukaku back though.
I do think if we lose against Bournmouth I want to see Dyche go. Bring back walker, he'll take us down more quickly to where the current Manager will! Peter Reid after Royle would have instilled some passion. I'm babbling sorry
Mike Gaynes
10 Posted 30/08/2024 at 04:04:05
I truly cannot understand the recurrent calls all over these pages for Keane to be shipped out.

To move into a season with only three center backs -- one of them currently injured and another still unproven -- strikes me as about three yards past insanity.

Four is the absolute minimum.

Jay Harris
11 Posted 30/08/2024 at 04:18:33
Just to add to that Mike G I have been one of Keane's biggest critics but as a reserve CB he certainly has enough about him to keep in the squad. Yes he is error prone and slow but if Tarks, JB or Obrien are not available he is as good a quality as we can shoe in.
Don Alexander
12 Posted 30/08/2024 at 04:29:29
Way before this year the end of the type of window transfer nonsense now thrust upon us for way longer than the 21st century seems to me, as a dad and granddad, and mere child when Everton were first viable as a successful club in my lifetime, resemble a farce even Kenwright would be proud of.

Courtesy for years of Moshiri and his self servingly deluded/greedy football chairman we are now just about on a par with Ipswich right now as a club, with any prospect at all at avoiding relegation a distant dream.

Desperate, albeit now necessary, revolution in ownership/boardroom is now mandatory

..... like Moshiri gives a fuck for any of us though.

Thanks Kenwright, and may all your fatuous personal beneficiaries alone prosper from your decades-long machinations to make them wealthy at the cost of the whole genuine Toffee fanbase.

Eugene Stalker
13 Posted 30/08/2024 at 06:11:33
I agree Jay. As a back up centre half Keane is as good as what we can expect right now but he is a confidence player. He looks a bag of nerves a lot of the time but after a few good games you can see his confidence increase and he becomes more settled. The problem he has is that he is on the bench most of the time so never gets a decent run to increase that confidence. Been mentioned before but he also has a bit about him in the opposition box and has a decent shot.
Danny O’Neill
14 Posted 30/08/2024 at 06:24:07
Well, here we go. I'm not a big fan of this, but I guess it is what we have now and I will sit up and watch the Sky hysteria.

I hope we keep Dominic.

And keep Branthwaite at all costs.

Steve Oshaugh
15 Posted 30/08/2024 at 06:26:57
I've never really understood the negativity around Keane. He seems like a very dependable squad man that has delivered some exceptional moments for us over the years. His goal against Palace was a great piece of skill and set us on our way that day. He also gives his all every game and from memory played through an injury in his first season... Maupay can piss off though:)
Jim Bennings
16 Posted 30/08/2024 at 06:34:47
Let's be honest we've royally screwed ourselves.

There's no way we can afford to sell DCL now but it's obviously a risk to keep a player now who's head appears to be elsewhere and knows his near future won't be in an Everton shirt.Link

No way we can sell him now though it's too late, you can't leave yourself with Beto and Chermiti, a combined THREE league goals between them

We've fucked up this Calvert -Lewin situation big time.

I don't see enough goals in this side whatsoever.

Sam Bowen
17 Posted 30/08/2024 at 06:54:18
In what way has the club got the DCL thing wrong Jim? What do you suggest they do? They offered him a contract extension, told him they wanted him to stay. If another club doesn’t bid for him as we’re les to believe they haven’t, how is that their fault? I don’t get what else they’re supposed to do. DCL is the one that’s got it all wrong, not the club. He probably thought he’s have loads of offers, he’s now stuck in limbo for a season.
Martin Farrington
18 Posted 30/08/2024 at 06:59:01
How do you get Premier League know how if you don't play in the PL matches ?
Signing 'non-experienced PL' players to therefore not play them is pure madness.
Thelwell and Dyche clearly have a vast gulf between them.
Jim Bennings
19 Posted 30/08/2024 at 07:12:41
Sam

We should have reduced considerably the asking price, then the Geordie's might just have signed him and paid him the wage he's after, I doubt it but you never know.

I'd rather have sold him two months ago so we have time to sign that replacement (not that I believe we'd have got that right)

I don't know our valuation of him but I heard it's £30 million, that's insane for a player that walks away for nothing next year now.

Jim Bennings
20 Posted 30/08/2024 at 07:22:03
And I'd also now take the contract offer off the table now too for DCL.

It's clear he's not signing and the money we've put to him isn't going to be enough to convince him to stay, so for me it should be taken off the board now.

We need to start making his mind up for him.

There won't be any offers for him this year now, I don't see any reputable club offering him a deal next year either, at best he'll warm the bench at Newcastle one day or West Ham.

All it's done is leave us in limbo now because we don't have any assurance with him staying and don't get a high earner off the wage bill or any kind of fee.

Mal van Schaick
21 Posted 30/08/2024 at 07:30:58
Holgate can go. Sign a new striker and put DCL in the reserves.
Kunal Desai
22 Posted 30/08/2024 at 07:33:27
Ins: Mangala

Out: Maupay and Holgate.

We'll we still be short of a forward, a right sided winger and cover at left back.

DCL I expect will remain and see out his contract, he will probably get a big signing on fee for whoever he signs for next summer. However, to any prospective and competitve employer he will have to prove to them that he's worth the wages/contract and therefore he will need to start producing performances whilst he remains at the club.

Jonathan Tasker
23 Posted 30/08/2024 at 07:45:33
Maupay easily outscored dcl last season.
What do we do to players that they hate us so much ?
Sam Bowen
24 Posted 30/08/2024 at 07:49:02
They wanted to sell him two months ago. Again, not the clubs fault that he wanted massive wages and couldn’t agree terms. I think all of us including the club would have taken the Minteh and been more than happy with the deal as he looks like a very good player. Since then, not a single bid has come in for him.
Paul Ferry
25 Posted 30/08/2024 at 07:56:25
Don A, you really need to get beyond your Kenwrigthitis. While I agree, IN nine-tenths of your posts it is predictable and a tad boring.

WE KNOW HOW YOU FEEL!

No need to keep repeating it.

Mal van Schaick 21 - Holgate can go. Sign a new striker and put DCL in the reserves.

Brilliant Mal, your understanding of our finances is spot on. Your judgment is sound as a pound - the pound that fluctuates wildly and widely against the dollar and euro.

Tell yer what lads and lasses, I can't wait for the first John Lennon/Titanic/Castle Street hilarious Riquelme gags. They just make my deadline day and float my boat.

It wouldn't be D Day without them. I'm heading off to zzzzzzzzz now after a wine-full highly successful dinner party where yours truly cooked middle-eastern grub, and all I can think about is a brill Riquelme gag.

Rob Halligan
26 Posted 30/08/2024 at 08:00:20
Funny that, Paul, because I’ve just seen an EasyJet fly over our house on its way to John Lennon airport, and I’m sure I saw Riquelme waving at me out of his window seat!
Dave Cashen
27 Posted 30/08/2024 at 08:10:11
Those saying we have had no offers for DCL must have been asleep for the past three months.

Dyche and Thelwell have deliberately priced him out of the market. They are terrified at the prospect of trying to stay up without him.

Unlike his army of critics who judge him solely as a goalscorer, they (and all of their predecessors) recognise what a terrific player he actually is. One who could score goals if he didnt have two other jobs to do.

I'm not normally a transfer deadline day follower. I can’t bear the "Why don't we just swap Holgate or Haaland?" type of nonsense. I normally wait until the next morning to see who we have actually sold and bought.

Today is different. I am nervous. If those who have been dying to see the back of Calvert-Lewin get their way today. Beto and Chermiti will be our main hope of survival. Whilst I will support both of these lads as long as they wear blue shirts. If we are relying on them for survival, I don't believe we have a prayer.

As for another forward coming in. One that could fit into what has been the Everton way of playing for decades... Don't make me laugh!

Mick O'Malley
28 Posted 30/08/2024 at 08:21:48
Paul agree about the Riquelme "joke", it’s been done to death along with the Arteta money.
Rob Halligan
29 Posted 30/08/2024 at 08:28:36
Mick, the Riquelme joke wasn’t even funny the very first time it was told on here. I wonder how many times it will be told today?
Rob Halligan
30 Posted 30/08/2024 at 08:33:48
Victor Osimhen moving to Saudi Arabia, and will be on a staggering £600k per week……Tax fucking Free!

Now Mr Maupay, that is definitely Not Normal!

Mick O'Malley
31 Posted 30/08/2024 at 09:07:02
Rob agreed, also the money Osihmen will be earning in Saudi is obscene, but I'm surprised he's going there at this stage of his career.
Duncan McDine
32 Posted 30/08/2024 at 09:08:32
JT - What do we do to players that they hate us so much ?

Boo them when they fracture a cheekbone and call them sissies.

PF, you forgot to mention the very funny "Moutinho spotted" jokes.

mmm... Lambrini and donner kebabs

Steve Brown
33 Posted 30/08/2024 at 09:11:48
Mike @ 10, the only reason would be the expiry of his contract next summer.

We need the defensive cover and he has actually played alright this season.

Sam Hoare
34 Posted 30/08/2024 at 09:19:04
I'd be happy with Maupay and Holgate out and Mangala and a right back (Trippier or Assignon) in.

If we achieve the latter then maybe send Patterson to the Championship or Scotland on loan as he needs games once fit again.

Brian Williams
35 Posted 30/08/2024 at 09:20:09
Dave#27.

Hallelujah to your first three paragraphs.

Don't feel quite so alone now!

Kunal Desai
36 Posted 30/08/2024 at 09:21:20
Osimhen going to Saudi for £600k a week tax free. Absolute madness.

This is when you realise football is dead.

Brian Harrison
37 Posted 30/08/2024 at 09:27:11
I have never understood why all the major leagues in Europe don't have a transfer deadline that closes before any of the domestic leagues start.

Take the ridiculous situation that Brentford are in they haven't played Toney in any of their games even though he is fit to start games.

I don't know whether Brentford won't play him in case he gets injured which might scupper a lucrative deal, or whether it's Toney refusing to play. Either way, it's a stupid position to put players and clubs in, and it wouldn't happen if the window closed before the season started.

Andrew Ellams
38 Posted 30/08/2024 at 09:29:15
Brian they tried that a few years ago and the clubs decided they didn't like it.
Andrew Ellams
39 Posted 30/08/2024 at 09:30:56
Toney off to Saudi now too.

This is why we will never be in the market for anybody better than Beto.

Anthony Dove
40 Posted 30/08/2024 at 09:39:13
It's really not fair or sensible to group Michael Keane with
the likes of Holgate and Maupay. He's a cultured player
with a great pass plus he's scored some valuable goals.

He played through a bad injury a couple of seasons ago and whilst he is not the quickest he's been a good servant for the Club in a difficult( understatement) period.

Mark Murphy
41 Posted 30/08/2024 at 09:47:22
I'd love to see Calvert-Lewin stay, even if it means running down his contract. If Dyche plays to his strengths and gets some fucking balls into the box, 20 goals from him will help us and him as he'll earn a decent move and we won't need to risk another Tosun.

I hope he and Branthwaite stay today. Even if we don't get anyone else in today I'll be “happy” (well, at least less miserable) with that.

Paul Hewitt
42 Posted 30/08/2024 at 09:49:44
Don't be surprised if Calvert-Lewin ends up at Brentford before the deadline.
Andrew Ellams
43 Posted 30/08/2024 at 09:57:32
I don't see Brentford paying his £130k a week that he wants, Paul.
Mark Ryan
44 Posted 30/08/2024 at 09:59:30
Anthony @ 40 spot on.

Keane seems a decent hardworking lad, means well, trys his best, gives his best. Holgate the polar opposite

Colin Callaghan
45 Posted 30/08/2024 at 10:02:32
Dom is a striker who makes far too many runs wider than the channel for me. He wins the first ball but his hold up play isn't spectacular.

Most strikers who are good in the air routinely help on corners too, offensively and defensively.

I'd be much more leniant if I saw Richarlison fire in his belly.

Alan J Thompson
46 Posted 30/08/2024 at 10:08:38
I don't know what Maupay is on but it doesn't take a genius to work out that the likes of Holgate and Keane won't get elsewhere the sort of wages they are on with Everton so they'll see out their contracts and then get a move where they'll only get a measly 5 to 10 grand a week, it's a hard life if you don't weaken.

However, they are not the only ones who need the money and those building a new ground or face a points penalty are in an even worse circumstance which might be the deciding factor in Calvert-Lewin's transfer as the prize money for him possibly helping us to a higher league position pales against what we might receive in a transfer fee. The downside, obviously, is would we survive if relegated from the Premier League.

Is there anyone named Solomon interested in buying the club or do we just carry on loaning and signing players from an interested party who also has an interest in another non-English club. It all begs the question of which is the bigger joke.

Danny O’Neill
47 Posted 30/08/2024 at 10:23:03
I want Calvert-Lewen to stay Mark.

Priority is to keep Branthwaite.

I had Sky Sports on in the background, but it started boring me so I've the BBC News on. The lesser of two evils.

No doubt I will switch on later.

Phil (Kelsall) Roberts
48 Posted 30/08/2024 at 10:23:36
You can carry on working in a high profile job in FTSE 100 company earning £5m a year or take my offer at some backwater company at £30m per year tax free so £60m a year in comparison to the salary in the UK.

Only downside is that you will probably not be offered another job after you have earnt your £120m tax free.

And some of you on here think Osimhen should have turned down the Saudis? If it was you, would you have turned it down (Same for Toney)

James Marshall
49 Posted 30/08/2024 at 10:33:56
My guess is Calvert-Lewin will stay at Everton, run his contract down, and then end up at a mid-table side like West Ham or Fulham.

His ideas of playing for a top side seem fanciful IMO.

Steven Kendrew
50 Posted 30/08/2024 at 10:36:44
Whatever you think of him, and I really like him, if Calvert-Lewin goes, we go down.

If he stays, we don't, assuming he stays fit. Simple as that. 🤷‍♂️

James Marshall
51 Posted 30/08/2024 at 10:48:45
I'd prefer him to stay 100%. He definitely has his limitations and will never be prolific, but I also believe he's a victim of the Dyche system.

I read some article the other day about him making more runs than any other striker in the first 2 games, but is completely ignored by his teammates, and as a result has only had one shot on goal.

Kunal Desai
52 Posted 30/08/2024 at 10:49:29
Danny, you switched to the BBC news. Still reminders of Everton on that channel with Moshiris daughter being the morning presenter. Ha
Ian Wilkins
53 Posted 30/08/2024 at 10:57:25
You need 3 or 4 strikers, Liverpool are just buying another winger for christs sake.

If a decent offer comes in then I fear Calvert-Lewin goes, but we must have replacement(s) lined up, not just Fofana from Chelsea.

We would be in serious trouble with just Beto and Chermiti.

Les Callan
54 Posted 30/08/2024 at 10:58:16
Keane is a nightmare.
Anthony Hawkins
55 Posted 30/08/2024 at 11:08:55
Those defending Keane. We lose every time he plays.

Conversely, Branthwaite plays and we have the chance to draw.

John Hall
56 Posted 30/08/2024 at 11:19:56
I believe Ronald is looking for a pro bono charity gig *.

Shall we give him a go? (*this may be a wind-up :))

John Hall
57 Posted 30/08/2024 at 11:21:48
Keane and Holgate are not nightmares, they are geniuses (genii) In what other line of work could they make so much money by being so utterly incompetent?

Amazing really.

Ernie Baywood
58 Posted 30/08/2024 at 11:34:38
They're not incompetent. They're just incompetent at this level.

It's the Peter Principle: Everyone is promoted to their level of incompetence.

Look at whoever gave them their contracts. That's where the incompetence is.

Mark Ryan
59 Posted 30/08/2024 at 11:38:35
If Calvert-Lewin stays and we fail to give him the ammunition, then we could go down.

If we signed the new Bob Latchford and played like we do, he too would have the same returns as Calvert-Lewin or dare I say Maupay.

We have to change our style for Calvert-Lewin or any striker if they are to thrive.

Denis Richardson
60 Posted 30/08/2024 at 11:42:13
People saying Osimhen to Saudi for £600kpw is madness - remember they have more money than they know what to do with. Their sovereign wealth fund, PIF, has about USD 1 trillion in assets and keeps getting bigger, not smaller, despite the amounts they spend. The main Saudi state oil company, Aramco, has a market value of USD 2 trillion. The amounts they're paying footballers, to us are large, to them is (frighteningly) just pocket change.

At least some of the petro dollars make their way back to Europe, albeit via Monaco and Switzerland no doubt, and help keep the luxury brands afloat

Most footballers are mercenaries so can't blame them for going there to cash in. Toney will be getting about £20m a year tax free as well if he goes. That's more money that he could dream of just a couple of years ago.

Helicopter money but I can't see the SPL ever being that enticing that players go there for a long time. One or two seasons on silly money and you'd think they'd move back to 'normality'. Unless of course they're allowed into the champions league

Ernie Baywood
61 Posted 30/08/2024 at 11:45:37
Makes you think doesn't it, Denis.

If you're a very good footballer you either care about winning credible trophies or you care about huge money.

I don't have an issue with either.

But Everton can't offer either of those things!

Gerry Quinn
62 Posted 30/08/2024 at 11:45:43
Neal Maupay mocks Everton by comparing exit to escaping Shawshank prison...

He won't be getting any redemption from us then!!!!

James Marshall
63 Posted 30/08/2024 at 11:49:01
Denis - Toney is seemingly going to Al Ahli, and they only have room in their squad for one more foreign player so Osimhen is hugely doubtful at this stage. They'd need to sell a foreign player by Monday in order for both of them to sign.

Toney has agreed fees and terms and is having a medical in London today so that's pretty much a done deal. While the fund is huge, my understanding is that they don't actually have the funding allocated for both players, and the club doesn't need 2 strikers anyway.

Napoli bought Lukaku the other day, which suggests Osimhen will leave, but where will he go, Chelsea?

Dave Lynch
64 Posted 30/08/2024 at 11:52:39
Maupay is a shit footballer, he's a child who is blaming everything and everyone except himself for his shortcomings...good riddance.

Im stlii not convinced by the incoming players, Calvert-Lewin needs to go and we should be looking for a genuine striker, I don't care if its a one-season wonder or someone at the end of their career, eg, Vardy or the like.

We need a nasty, selfish, gobby bastard upfront who will "demand" the ball.

Andrew Grey
65 Posted 30/08/2024 at 11:58:17
Dave Lynch - 68

"We need a nasty, selfish, gobby bastard upfront who will "demand" the ball."

You mean like Maupay?

Dermot O'Brien
66 Posted 30/08/2024 at 12:00:34
James #57, that is brilliant from the club.
Dave Lynch
67 Posted 30/08/2024 at 12:11:20
Yer right Andrew
Christy Ring
68 Posted 30/08/2024 at 12:15:49
At this stage of the window, we can't afford to sell DCL, we're not going to get a quality striker for £20M.

And for all those who want rid, we can say goodbye to over £100M and be a Championship team next season if we only have Beto upfront.

I'd still be critical of the club over his new contract offer. because waiting until a player has 12 months left on his contract is always a gamble

I just hope Mangala signs, and a right-winger, and Holgate out.

Andrew Ellams
69 Posted 30/08/2024 at 12:15:54
Jensen Metcalf gone out to Chesterfield for a year.

That should do him some good

Ian Bennett
70 Posted 30/08/2024 at 12:22:42
Michael Keane has been here 7 years, and is still waiting for a win bonus.
Christy Ring
71 Posted 30/08/2024 at 12:28:26
The problem with Keane and Holgate, their contracts are up this summer, and no one will match their wages, unless offered 2/3 year contract.

Any chance of a sneaky offer to Spurs for a loan deal for Richarlison, who's only a squad player now?

Justin Doone
72 Posted 30/08/2024 at 12:29:00
Full back positions need upgrading on both sides, not just the right.

How about the Luton left back Doughty? Our ex- player Thierry Small?

Surely Chelsea have a few players which we could loan one and buy a young right back from?

Andrew Ellams
73 Posted 30/08/2024 at 12:30:17
Christy, I suspect we will sell Branthwaite for big money next summer and reinvest that in replacing him an Keane.

Holgate can move on as he's 5th choice and not needed.

James Marshall
74 Posted 30/08/2024 at 12:33:15
Dreadful news - Holgate's move to Lyon is off.

I didn't even know he was going to Lyon.

Mark Murphy
75 Posted 30/08/2024 at 12:33:35
Danny - I'm listening to Test Match Special.
Much more relaxing.
Mark Murphy
76 Posted 30/08/2024 at 12:41:35
Re Moshiri
will HIS legacy be the new stadium?
If so, shouldn't we cut him some slack?
Andrew Ellams
77 Posted 30/08/2024 at 12:43:37
Mark no. It's because of him the first league game in the new stadium might still be against Bolton or Barnsley.
Andrea Jacobs
78 Posted 30/08/2024 at 12:50:26
My mate said she swore she just saw Muller (the once pacy and great Brazilian striker) playing the bongos on Bond Street. Nothing on SSN’s yet….
Pete Neilson
79 Posted 30/08/2024 at 12:51:50
Maybe Holgate wants to stick around for his testimonial next year.
Steve Shave
80 Posted 30/08/2024 at 12:55:20
I expect an underwhelming window, SD has tried to temper any expectations at all.

This might be a controversial view but assuming Mangala comes in I would be inclined to sell Doucs to Saudi if possible? He is a huge earner and quite frankly Ndiaye and Lindstrom will offer more as a no 10.

Get some money for Doucs now while we can, especially if that means we can keep Dom for the season. I would like to see Holgate go too, useless, I am however also feeling a need to be a little protective towards Keane who I believe is a half decent back up CB and squad filler.

Any money from these two (assuming we keep Dom) should go on Fellows of West Brom.

Mark Murphy
81 Posted 30/08/2024 at 12:56:16
Andrew, yes, I recognise that the playing side has suffered under him but is Bramley Moore down to him?
If so, still a positive contribution to our clubs future, yes?
John Chambers
82 Posted 30/08/2024 at 12:58:02
Mark, his legacy is £800m of debt and years of struggling because of his financial mismanagement
Colin Glassar
83 Posted 30/08/2024 at 12:59:41
James 78, maybe he was close to getting a job in the old Lyons cafe in town. I can’t remember where it was exactly but it was very posh and the waitresses wore white pinnies and little hats.

Anyone remember?

Martin Berry
84 Posted 30/08/2024 at 13:01:36
We need a winger in Ernest !
Denis Richardson
85 Posted 30/08/2024 at 13:01:41
James 66 - I think if the Saudis really want Toney and Osimhen they will sign them both and sort the cash allocation out behind the scenes. It's a PIF owned club so not like they don't have the funds if they wanted to do the deal. Only other club would be Chelsea I would guess but even they can't come close to £600kpw wages - also another story how Chelsea manage to sign all these players and not succumb to PSR - they must have some damn good accountants!

I still find the whole thing odd that the PIF (essentially a bottomless money pit) can own 4 of the 18 teams in the league. Looking it up, a PIF owned club has won the Saudi league in each of the last 11 seasons (including Al Hilal x6 and Al Nassr x3) and come runner up 10 of those 11. I presume that's not going to change any time soon.

Andrew Ellams
86 Posted 30/08/2024 at 13:04:07
Denis, money isn't the issue.

They only have one slot left for an overseas player in their squad.

Justin Doone
87 Posted 30/08/2024 at 13:04:30
The stadium will help secure our long-term term future and for that I will always be grateful to Moshiri. We had needed a major stadium refurbishment / new build for decades. No one else had the resources or was willing or able to make it happen.

So for that I'm thankful!

But I'm still entitled to complain about his blinkered view on Bill Kenwright, the lack of on field improvement, and not bringing in the best people needed to transform their whole club.

Everything from manager and player recruitment, financial control and our commercial activity remains third-rate or below.

Denis Richardson
88 Posted 30/08/2024 at 13:05:50
On a completely different note, I'm not happy at all that Southampton have signed Ramsdale. I think he's a quality 'keeper and could be the difference between staying up and going down.

Had them as 99% likely to go down – now less so.

Denis Richardson
89 Posted 30/08/2024 at 13:06:37
Andrew 90,

They could get rid of one other overseas player no?

Their windows open until Monday.

James Marshall
90 Posted 30/08/2024 at 13:19:21
Denis - reports suggest they don't actually want or need 2 strikers so they're basically playing Toney off against Osimhen. Can they offload an overseas player over the weekend? Who knows, but if they want Toney they'll have to buy him today regardless.

The Italian window also shuts tonight, so I don't see how they can buy both players today even if they wanted to.

Derek Knox
91 Posted 30/08/2024 at 13:21:44
Mark @ 79, " Danny - I'm listening to Test Match Special."

All Balls to me ! :-)

James Marshall
92 Posted 30/08/2024 at 13:27:34
I'm hearing Chelsea are looking at either/or Calvert-Lewin and/or Jhon Duran, both swap deals.

Who would we get in a swap deal with Chelsea I wonder – David Fofana? Broja? It would surely have to be a striker.

Fred Quick
93 Posted 30/08/2024 at 13:31:11
Denis @92,

Strange that our current keeper occupies the England shirt and not Ramsdale.

Obviously Arteta and the England boss are not very good at deciding the various qualities of a goalkeeper?

Danny O’Neill
94 Posted 30/08/2024 at 14:19:36
Les, I've criticised Keane many times for individual performances, but praised him when due, just like I do with most players, both ways.

Maupay is getting a lot of stick here. He hasn't had a great time at Everton and became a whipping boy for supporters. But, let's be honest he's not designed to be a sole striker in this Everton team. No one is. It's an isolated position, with little backup.

I don't get a lot of the criticism. There is a reason he has played at the highest level and will do again now. Good luck to him.

As for that one individual who abused him, I hope you're proud of yourself. I would gladly meet you. I'm sure it was frustration boiling over.

Robert Tressell
95 Posted 30/08/2024 at 14:22:32
Still time for things to happen with the biggest, persistent rumours:

- Fofana
- Broja (who failed medical at Ipswich)
- Nuamah
- Mangala
- Assignon (the RB who was on loan at Burnley latter half of last season)
- Trippier

Might be a few others too.

Still also time for DCL to leave with Chelsea now looking the most likely destination.

The good news is that it looks very unlikely Branthwaite will leave this summer. Hopefully not spoken too soon on that - but if we hang onto him that's a big coup for the club that has developed him from raw potential into a brilliant young player.

Wouldn't be surprise if there a no further incomings or outgoings at all. A bit disappointing but not a disaster - and could have been much, much worse.

Anthony Flack
96 Posted 30/08/2024 at 14:23:16
Broja is too injury prone - and has scored less prolifically than DCL

(I have not checked that just a lazy comment)

Jerome Shields
97 Posted 30/08/2024 at 14:24:18
Danny you are right Players leaving Everton does not make them a bad player. They just were not able to play in the Everton set up. Maupay was in the French Squad.
Neil Lawson
98 Posted 30/08/2024 at 14:25:45
I know that much of the rumour is fallacious but a common thread is several players declining to join us in favour of other (lesser) locations.

Dyche or the club? Or a combination of the two?

Joe McMahon
99 Posted 30/08/2024 at 14:29:37
I don't want Broja either, but can Virginia play upfront?
Kunal Desai
100 Posted 30/08/2024 at 14:32:01
Whoever the new owner is has to come in and change the whole mindset and culture of this club. Make every employee re-apply for there roles and put them through a rigourous interview process. Employ those that fit the criteria for the role and not for any other reason. Get punchy and brutal with people.

Total reset is needed at this club with Dyche and Thelwell and others all out the door under new ownership.

Steve Brown
101 Posted 30/08/2024 at 14:34:33
Robert,

Calvert-Lewin might also be an option for Brentford if Toney leaves.

Les Moorcroft
102 Posted 30/08/2024 at 14:36:26
Dany

With Maupay, it's not just his football. His attitude to people, other professionals. Snide comments. If he was good at what he is getting paid for I'd say okay. But he is not. Attitude stinks.

So for me glad he has gone. And I hope he falls on his arse there. If he stays on the pitch long enough. As for the fella shouting, yes he was wrong. The prick Maupay's reaction summed Maupay up for me.

Alan Corken
103 Posted 30/08/2024 at 14:40:11
The greatest deadline day, if I remember correctly, was when Martinez brought in both Lukaku and Deulofeu, initially on loan I think.

If only old Baldy Dyche could pull off a similar coup. I guess a man can dream!

Robert Tressell
104 Posted 30/08/2024 at 14:41:52
Steve # 105, you might be right but Brentford have already signed the guy earmarked to be Toney's replacement - £30m Brazilian Thiago from Club Brugge. He's out till December so they might try to get some cover in, but already have Wissa and £25m Schade to cover the position.

Also, I suspect that Calvert-Lewin would probably rather play another season for us and then have better options as a free agent next summer, than join Brentford now.

Anthony # 100, you're right Broja is less prolific (so far) than Calvert-Lewin – but it is pretty much out of the question that we could afford to replace Calvert-Lewin with anyone more prolific (at least straightaway).

Andrew Ellams
105 Posted 30/08/2024 at 14:54:01
Alan, didn't they sign Barry and McCarthy on that day too?
James Marshall
106 Posted 30/08/2024 at 15:08:49
Broja's talks with Ipswich are continuing according to Sky Sports News.

And Nuamah is talking to Fulham now. Apparently unlikely he's coming to us.

Kieran Kinsella
107 Posted 30/08/2024 at 15:20:43
All this Broja-ha about this crappy Chelsea striker who is injured anyway. Hopefully he never darkens our door.

For once, we did our business early, so Mangala apart I can't see us doing much today.

Derek Knox
108 Posted 30/08/2024 at 15:31:18
Rob @ 26, " Funny that, Paul, because I’ve just seen an EasyJet fly over our house on its way to John Lennon airport, and I’m sure I saw Riquelme waving at me out of his window seat ! "

Of course Rob, many won't believe that, but if it was a two fingered wave - I would ! :-)

Justin Doone
109 Posted 30/08/2024 at 15:40:50
Maupay, the less said the better.

On other players to sell, all players have their value. Most urgent is anyone in the last season of their contract.
Dom, I'd happily take £20m. His potential goals to keep us in the league are worth that as a minimum. Keane £3m, Holgate £1m. Something is better than nothing.

The next 7 hour's could be the most exciting of our season. How sad is that!

Dale Self
110 Posted 30/08/2024 at 15:52:15
Oh geez, no live forum for this?
Liam Mogan
111 Posted 30/08/2024 at 15:52:29
DCL and prolific in the same sentence must be an oxymoron?
James Marshall
112 Posted 30/08/2024 at 15:53:40
Holgate to Sheffield Wednesday.
Danny O’Neill
113 Posted 30/08/2024 at 15:54:41
Robert, fingers crossed about Branthwaite.

I know little about Mangala, but we do need extas in midfield.

Les, all footballers have egos, but he did not deserve that abuse. If I would have been there, I would have told the guy.

Denis Richardson
114 Posted 30/08/2024 at 15:59:36
Fred '93 - I've reread my post and I'm not sure why you bring up Pickford. My post had nothing to do with Pickford and Ramsdale not being the England current no.1 doesn't mean I can't think he's a quality goalkeeper.

Sorry but I find your post a bit odd tbh.

Denis Richardson
115 Posted 30/08/2024 at 16:02:20
James 63 - PIF own 4 clubs so presumably they could sign both strikers and then 'sell' an overseas player to one of the other 3 clubs. They'd control both sides and still have until Monday.

Or you could be right and that Osimhen simply wanted too much money and they've decided Toney is better at the price.

Michael Boardman
116 Posted 30/08/2024 at 16:05:38
Simple facts for me.

We need RB, cover at LB and a striker

Not another midfielder, or CB

If DCL leaves, then we are done. If JB leaves, then that says everything about this cliub.

BUT WE NEED A RB

Christy Ring
117 Posted 30/08/2024 at 16:06:30
Why would we take Broja for Calvert-Lewin, he couldn't get a game with Fulham last season, and he failed a medical at Ipswich and is sidelined for the next 12 weeks, maybe Fofona on loan to replace Maupay.
Fred Quick
118 Posted 30/08/2024 at 16:17:50
Denis @ 114
You said you weren't happy that Southampton, I assume you think of the Saints as a direct rival to Everton in the relegation stakes have signed Ramsdale and thus increasing their chances of survival, but we already have the national keeper so our chances must be better than Saints? If you think my post was odd that's fine, it won't be the first or last time that someone thinks that.
Justin Doone
119 Posted 30/08/2024 at 16:18:10
I wouldn't waste money on Ramsdale. He's no better than Pickford, both good to average Premier league keepers that have frequent mistakes in their game and don’t command their box.

I'd happily sell Pickford for a decent fee. There's enough similar level keeper's warming benches all around Europe. Many free or loans to be had.

I've never been convinced by Begovic, but again a similar level, probably a little to old / slow to put pressure on Pickford for no. 1.

But our major recruitment issues are further up the pitch not GK. I'm hopeful another cheap / loan player can be found who is a real gem.

Brian Williams
120 Posted 30/08/2024 at 16:18:23
The next 7 hour's could be the most exciting of our season. How sad is that!

What's sad is that you think that Justin!

James Marshall
121 Posted 30/08/2024 at 16:23:45
Denis@115

They own 4 clubs, but I don't think they're allowed to just buy a player and allocate him to one of 4 clubs in that manner. As I understand it, PIF finance them, but the clubs are effectively separate entities so any contract is with the club in question, not PIF as an over-arching financier.

Paul Ferry
122 Posted 30/08/2024 at 16:25:20
Just got out of bed and surprise surprise nothing. Those two going to Saudi tells you all you need to know about them, Saudi, and footy. And £££££ mad Toney moaned that he did not get enough minutes at the Euros! (I see that he is not in LC's squad - end of international career, probably. Knobhead.)

Branthwaite is going nowhere.

Anyone seen a right-back at JL, Titanic, Castle Street, or flying over Rob's house?

Justin Doone
123 Posted 30/08/2024 at 16:27:16
Ha, thats fair. I start with so much optimism but reality kicks in.
I always want, hope, dream for the best. Football winning margins are often so small with a bad or tight call being a major factor.
Sadly we have little luck and play little attacking football to change the outcome.
However, after 2 poor performances and losses, surely thing's must start to improve soon!
Mike Gaynes
124 Posted 30/08/2024 at 16:28:13
Jay, Eugene and others, with Keane it's worth noting that his obvious defensive weaknesses are partly balanced off by his contributions in attack. He's the best long passer in the club by a mile, consistently accurate with those diagonal balls to the opposite wing, and as we all know he can finish -- not just the Palace goal but that guided missile in the 90th minute against Spurs testify to that.

As others have said, he's the ideal squad player, providing depth we desperately need, and I think we'd be nuts to sell him.

And speaking of nuts... Justin, if you really think Picks is a "good to average" keeper....

Denis Richardson
125 Posted 30/08/2024 at 16:29:34
Fred 118 - see where you’re coming from now. Yes am annoyed they got Ramsdale as I think he’ll be a really good signing and put them in a better spot to avoid the drop. I still think they’ll struggle.

However, doesn’t really matter how good Pickford is (or isn’t) if Saints are improved they are more of a challenge to us no? That’s assuming we have another mare of a season of course.

Slightly different topic. I’m not a massive Pickford fan myself as I prefer a keeper who commands his box and takes no prisoners. He's also a bit on the small side for me. He’s a good shop stopper but very average on everything else for me.

Hopefully we can get few wins and look up not down anyway.

Mike Gaynes
126 Posted 30/08/2024 at 16:32:57
Football 365 reports Holgate in talks with Wednesday. PLEEEEEEEEEZE let it happen.
Jack Convery
127 Posted 30/08/2024 at 16:34:53
IF and that's a BIG IF, James Ward-Prowse has passed us over for Forest, that is really sad. Players of his ilk, once crawled over glass to play for EFC. Alas no more it would appear.

A RB, cover at LB and a CF who scores goals and links up play. Have we checked the shelves at Netto yet. We may be able to afford their prices !

Paul Ferry
128 Posted 30/08/2024 at 16:37:16
Gosh, I really hope that there's a live forum as the excitement increases as we get closer to 6PM and Rob duly troops off to Finch Farm armed with Johnnies.
Mike Gaynes
129 Posted 30/08/2024 at 16:38:50
PF I would be fun on the Forum now. I had surgery yesterday and I'm stoned on pain pills. No filter.
Brian Williams
130 Posted 30/08/2024 at 16:43:12
Gosh? Gosh ffs? Lol.
Kieran Kinsella
131 Posted 30/08/2024 at 16:43:31
Holgate has proved harder to shift than Kenwright. Doubt it will happen today.
Christy Ring
132 Posted 30/08/2024 at 16:45:53
Mike#129 Hope all went well, looks like Fulham are getting the young Lyons winger, because they have put in a bid of £15m+, we can't offer a penny, and Ward-Prowse supposedly turned us down for Forest, to be honest his time at West Ham was poor.
Mike Gaynes
133 Posted 30/08/2024 at 16:46:58
Brian, PF is just a Midwest farm boy now. We may get a "golly" or a "shucks" out of him before the window closes.
Joe McMahon
134 Posted 30/08/2024 at 16:47:06
Jack, to be fair if I was a player I'd choose Forrest over Everton. The image of Everton these last few years has been dreadful, with awful low scoring football to go with it.
Brian Williams
135 Posted 30/08/2024 at 16:47:39
Mike#133
A yeehah even?
Kieran Kinsella
136 Posted 30/08/2024 at 16:48:43
Ward Prowse is what 30? On massive wages and a set piece expert who doesn't do much in open play. I can't imagine him being in a Dyche team.
Tony McNulty
137 Posted 30/08/2024 at 16:50:32
Just heard, following the announcement about Maupay, that Sean Dyche, the entire Everton Board, plus the current squad as well as support staff, have all individually posted the triumphal escape celebration scene from Shawshank on X.

At last we are free, they all cry, from what will prove to be one of the worst signings in Everton's history.

Fred Quick
138 Posted 30/08/2024 at 16:51:25
Holgate holding talks with Wednesday because he doesn't know what day of the week it is?
Tom Bowers
139 Posted 30/08/2024 at 16:52:30
Not expecting anything only the Mangala deal.

Everton just don't have any financial clout so no good hoping for that class striker which could be a big help.

DCL, Beto, Chermitti and whoever can contribute from the attacking midfield which isn't great so it's very much like last season or will Deli Alli be used at some point.

Ndaiye and Doucoure could tag up well together but the back four is a real problem with Branthwaite injured and not much at fullback/wingback to get excited about.

A win against Bournemouth would be a big plus to kickstart the season but I fear most wins they get will be hard to come by unless the financial situation changes big time before January 1st.

Denis Richardson
140 Posted 30/08/2024 at 16:52:32
James, 121, call me cynical but I can’t imagine the 4 PIF owned clubs are really independent. Ultimately the regulator also happens to be the owner…

Yes they are separate clubs and legal entities but I imagine ‘a deal’ is but a phone call away.

Anyway, we’ll find out in 6 hours.

Dave Cashen
141 Posted 30/08/2024 at 16:53:13
Gosh is a fantastic word/expression. Vastly underrated.

I would love to think Mr Ferry did not have his tongue firmly in his cheek. Unfortunately.....

Kieran Kinsella
142 Posted 30/08/2024 at 16:54:50
From The Echo

"Holgate to Lyon collapses.

Right, I'm back from the podcast and - if you were watching - you would have heard me say a deal for Mason Holgate to join Lyon has fallen through."

How the mighty (Lyon) have fallen since John Textor took over.

Jeff Armstrong
143 Posted 30/08/2024 at 16:57:01
Fred #138, your Quick🥴..oh wait
Mark Murphy
144 Posted 30/08/2024 at 16:58:55
Cheeks, Dave, cheeks...
Mike Gaynes
145 Posted 30/08/2024 at 17:00:09
Brian #135, only if we sign a striker.
Paul Ferry
146 Posted 30/08/2024 at 17:00:12
Hope the op went well MG. Gosh, it sounds so big, OPERATION.
Habib Erkan Jr
147 Posted 30/08/2024 at 17:04:14
Can anyone explain to this uninformed American how the loan rules work?

I understand that we can have no more than two English League players and two foreign league players on loan. But there is another rule that I think limits the number of loan players on the roster to two.

I would really appreciate an explanation of how many loan players can be on a matchday roster.

Mike Gaynes
149 Posted 30/08/2024 at 17:11:16
Mark, you beat me to it. Just salute Habib in case he's serving in a combat zone.

Habib, to answer your questions, PL clubs are limited to registering two loan players at any one time, and the maximum is four in the same season.

Denis #140, yeah, these cozy deals smell funny sometimes but that's the way the Prem clubs want it. They voted just a few months ago to allow loan moves between co-owned clubs. I recall that the vote wasn't close.

Brian Williams
151 Posted 30/08/2024 at 17:17:04
Dave#141.
PF's tongue is "stitched" to his cheek.
Jack Convery
152 Posted 30/08/2024 at 17:27:37
We should ask Lyon about Maitland-Niles. He can play RB,LB and most Midfield positions. Buy one get 5 or 6 other positions free ! If their winger is going to Fulham. M-N seems a no brainer seing how short we are at RB and LB. Cheaper wages than Trippier too.
Mike Corcoran
153 Posted 30/08/2024 at 17:32:33
Holgate is like the 20+ kid who won’t leave home, makes a mess everywhere and contributes nothing. But thinks they are the business.
Jack Convery
154 Posted 30/08/2024 at 17:45:46
We must be selling someone if we were prepared to spend £15M on the Lyon winger who has gone to Fulham.
Mike Corcoran
155 Posted 30/08/2024 at 17:50:14
That Goodison News website is awful:

“And, whilst Tim Iroegbunam was brought in before the Belgium international left the Toffees, from the opening games of the Premier League season, it's evident that he isn't yet quite ready for consistent top-flight football.”

Christ, he's one of the only ones who is ready!

Brian Williams
156 Posted 30/08/2024 at 17:50:52
Jack. You don't need £15m to buy a £15m player. 😉
Mike Corcoran
157 Posted 30/08/2024 at 17:52:19
I've just seen Cafu and Carlos on the 432 going into the tunnel. They were looking after Ashley.
John Hall
159 Posted 30/08/2024 at 18:08:54
I've felt it, smelt it, but I usually just flush it down! :)
Neil Copeland
162 Posted 30/08/2024 at 18:13:15
Robert #164, time to get the wellies out and chase some sheeps
Liam Mogan
163 Posted 30/08/2024 at 18:18:53
I felt and smelt it at the Brighton game.

Dyche dealt it.

John Hall
164 Posted 30/08/2024 at 18:20:16
Sean dealt it :)
Billy Shears
165 Posted 30/08/2024 at 18:21:36
No Striker incoming then, Dychie?
Steve Dowdeswell
167 Posted 30/08/2024 at 18:34:23
Mike Gaynes @158

I also know who Bella Emberg is and at this stage I would even consider her on a pay to play basis!

Danny O’Neill
168 Posted 30/08/2024 at 18:38:58
On Pickford, as much as he can frustrate he's kept us in the Premier League these past couple of seasons. I'm not really bothered who Southampton sign, or anyone else for that matter.

Rob Halligan
169 Posted 30/08/2024 at 18:42:05
James Ward Prowse……who the fuck wants him.

A one-trick pony who only specialises in dead-ball situations.

Jonathan Tasker
170 Posted 30/08/2024 at 18:43:35
Transfer deadline day, 2034

Calvert-Lewin aged 37 is still our principal striker. He has scored 34 goals in the last ten seasons.

Everton reportedly considering getting former player Ellis Simms back on loan.

Kunal Desai
171 Posted 30/08/2024 at 18:46:41
Everton in talks with Nuamah according to bobble. Fulham deal stalled.
Ray Said
172 Posted 30/08/2024 at 18:50:15
Ivan Toney is in for a rude awakening when he heads for the bookies in Saudi…
Andrew Ellams
176 Posted 30/08/2024 at 18:59:26
Seems like the Nuamah deal is back on…
Mike Gaynes
178 Posted 30/08/2024 at 19:02:33
A hilariously miss-the-point headline just posted on Everton News:

Everton prove Fabrizio Romano completely wrong and are close to deal to sign £15m player

Everton have just made Fabrizio Romano look foolish by going against his claims to close a deal for Ernest Nuamah.

Somebody there really doesn't like Romano. Putting him first in the headline ahead of the player signing.

Minik Hansen
180 Posted 30/08/2024 at 19:04:45
What did I miss in the last few hours, Mangala in, any news about Nuamah? Holgate to Wednesday. Is there anyone else, incoming, on the way out?
Paul Hewitt
181 Posted 30/08/2024 at 19:09:46
No more ins or outs apparently.
Habib Erkan Jr
182 Posted 30/08/2024 at 19:12:21
Thanks Mark for the grammar shot and thanks Mike for the information 😀
Derek Taylor
183 Posted 30/08/2024 at 19:14:26
What used to be called 'a negative window'!

Little improvement on last season likely but no doubt we shall be sold the line that keeping both Branthwaite and Calvert-Lewin is like two new signings!

Ian Bennett
186 Posted 30/08/2024 at 19:24:41
Glad we got a holding midfielder in, as we were lacking in my view.

I hope it's an option and not obligation, so we get a good look first. Reported fee of £30M+ sounds a lot for someone they signed for £15-20M in the summer.

Mark Ryan
187 Posted 30/08/2024 at 19:37:48
Tom Cannon being moved on by Leicester. Surprised by that news.
Joe McMahon
189 Posted 30/08/2024 at 19:40:35
Ernerst Nuamah? Anyone heard? Another winger
Paul Ferry
190 Posted 30/08/2024 at 19:44:35
Paul Hewitt 191: No more ins or outs apparently

That's that then. I'm off to bed.

Jay Harris
191 Posted 30/08/2024 at 19:45:19
Joe,

All I've heard is that he preferred Fulham but the deal hit a snag and now Everton are back in the frame for him.

Ian Edwards
193 Posted 30/08/2024 at 19:47:23
Looks like Nuamah to Fulham is back on.
Dale Self
194 Posted 30/08/2024 at 19:48:00
Paul 170, let's hope it isn't a cosmetic signing.
Colin Glassar
196 Posted 30/08/2024 at 19:52:44
Any news on Gnonto? Is it a case of “to be, or Gnon-to be”?

I'll get me coat.

Joe McMahon
197 Posted 30/08/2024 at 19:56:35
Jay and Ian, latest is bloody Forrest now, but of course Fulham is in London.

Don't think it's gonna be Dyche ball for him.

Paul Tran
198 Posted 30/08/2024 at 20:03:15
I've been on that Internet. Apparently there's rumours that we're thinking about bidding for someone wanted by lots of other clubs.

Thelwell is now bringing Dyche in to see if he can smell the player's level of interest in joining us.

Kunal Desai
203 Posted 30/08/2024 at 20:17:03
Hasn't this club been chasing Gnonto for the last two seasons and yet have still not been able to sign him.

Still haven't managed to come up with an alternative.

Soren Moyer
205 Posted 30/08/2024 at 20:22:56
Tariq Lamptey from Brighton is available. Yes, he's had his fair share of injuries but he seems to be fine now. A loan deal could sort our right-back dilemma perhaps!?
Julian Exshaw
210 Posted 30/08/2024 at 20:38:54
Just got in...is Nuamah coming to us or not?
Paul Ferry
212 Posted 30/08/2024 at 20:42:43
Still nattering to Fulham JE but word is it's collapsing.

Julian Exshaw
213 Posted 30/08/2024 at 20:44:05
Cheers PF. I liked the sound of him. Shame!
Jack Convery
215 Posted 30/08/2024 at 20:48:15
Paul Ferry,

Do you mean the move to Fulham is collapsing?

Steve Cotton
216 Posted 30/08/2024 at 20:49:10
Why the fuck do we wait until 2 hours before the transfer window shuts to try and get the pacy right winger we have needed for almost 2 years…???

We are now 1 if 3 clubs all offering him mountains of gold when this should have been sorted in early July...

Tony McNulty
217 Posted 30/08/2024 at 20:51:00
Live Forum appears to have just opened…
Paul Ferry
218 Posted 30/08/2024 at 20:52:07
Yes Jack
Jack Convery
220 Posted 30/08/2024 at 21:01:10
Cheers Paul Ferry. Let's hope it's us then.
Sam Hoare
221 Posted 30/08/2024 at 21:38:32
Nuamah going to Fulham by the sounds of it. Think our work is done unless Holgate gets a late move
Joe McMahon
222 Posted 30/08/2024 at 21:45:00
Very disappointed no striker coming, we have been crying out for goals for years.
Dave Cashen
223 Posted 30/08/2024 at 21:51:34
Maxwell Cornet being unloaded by West Ham.
Jim Bennings
224 Posted 30/08/2024 at 21:55:29
No strikers meaning all of our eggs are in the DCL basket now.

We can't afford to sell the guy that's already got his thoughts elsewhere

Denis Richardson
225 Posted 30/08/2024 at 22:07:04
Guess that’s it for us this window. Can’t imagine any signings coming in with one hour to go.

Positive however that Branthwaites here at least one more year and Dixon has not been loaned out. DCL saga will be interesting to watch but he’ll have to put himself about if he wants a top club next summer.

I’d give it a 7/10 for the window - being generous as was going with 6.5/10 initially but Maupay going nudged it to a 7.

Christy Ring
226 Posted 30/08/2024 at 22:24:16
Nothing everton, just arteta, Stirling on the way to arsenal, same wing as saka, where's the striker in the middle?
Jack Convery
227 Posted 30/08/2024 at 22:30:44
McNulty on BBC, saying he can't see anyone else coming to Goodison tonight.

Maybe a free agent or two in the next week or so.

Mark Ryan
228 Posted 30/08/2024 at 22:33:30
If DCL wants a lucrative deal at the end of this season he'll need to put himself the shop window. This might get the best out him
Dale Rose
229 Posted 30/08/2024 at 22:39:08
Didn't we have a Mangala on loan from Citeh a few years ago..?
Denis Richardson
230 Posted 30/08/2024 at 22:42:17
Eliaquim Mangala - he was crap.

2017?

Ian Jones
231 Posted 30/08/2024 at 22:42:51
Denis @ 225. Good news re Branthwaite and DCL so far. However, we may need to go through all this again in the January transfer window
Shane Corcoran
232 Posted 30/08/2024 at 22:49:13
Who was the poster that told me that JB was going to United regardless of what I thought?
Denis Richardson
233 Posted 30/08/2024 at 22:53:50
Ian. I would hope the club would not be stupid enough to sell Branthwaite mid season. DCL I could see going in Jan to get some cash in but at least we’d have sometime to sign someone else. I guess also depends how we’re doing!
Shane Corcoran
234 Posted 30/08/2024 at 22:54:28
Holgate gone to WBA
Stephen Davies
235 Posted 30/08/2024 at 22:55:32
Reported Ernest deal off at Fulham
John Pickles
236 Posted 30/08/2024 at 23:00:36
West Brom are highly excited about Holgate, they haven't scouted him, but they've seen his YouTube video.
Dave Cashen
237 Posted 30/08/2024 at 23:01:24
don't get the Maupay transfer details. They take him on a season long loan. THEN pay us 6m when he is a free agent ?
Bill Gienapp
238 Posted 30/08/2024 at 23:02:37
Honestly, all things considered, this window turned out better than I was expecting (I was expecting basically nothing). Obviously we still have some significant deficiencies and areas of concern (and it was the usual wet fizz on deadline day), but I think you'd have a tough time arguing that this squad isn't notably stronger than last year's.
Colin Glassar
239 Posted 30/08/2024 at 23:03:25
Poor baggies. Glad Maupay has gone as well.
Dave Cook
240 Posted 30/08/2024 at 23:04:53
Dave#237 probably a way around the French PSR taking out of next year instead of this year.
Dave Cashen
241 Posted 30/08/2024 at 23:07:15
I guess it has to be something along those lines, Dave
Rob Halligan
242 Posted 30/08/2024 at 23:07:31
Dave # 237……Everton have the option of extending Maupays contract by one year next summer, which would mean we could get a fee for him. Marseille obviously agreed to this, otherwise I think he would still be with us.
Denis Richardson
243 Posted 30/08/2024 at 23:08:23
Holgate is a loan and I imagine we’ll still be paying a hefty chunk of his £70kpw wages.

I guess it brings the chapter to a close.

Danny O’Neill
244 Posted 30/08/2024 at 23:10:35
Well I'm glad that's done. I had it on in background, even the continuous talk about Sterling.

I think I'll stick a documentary on and fall asleep. Big day tomorrow blues.

Rob Halligan
245 Posted 30/08/2024 at 23:11:23
Wilfried Zaha has joined Lyon on a twelve month loan deal. Textor buys us and we then get Zaha!
Shane Corcoran
246 Posted 30/08/2024 at 23:11:54
In for Broja now.
Dave Cashen
248 Posted 30/08/2024 at 23:16:53
Not the worst deal we could have done then Rob, especially with add ons.

And at least we wont be paying him 2.5m to sit in the wings next season

Stephen Davies
249 Posted 30/08/2024 at 23:18:21
Deal sheet submitted for Broja.
Everton have until 1am to get deal done
Shane Corcoran
250 Posted 30/08/2024 at 23:19:21
Where’d you see that Stephen? Is it a loan?
Paul Hewitt
251 Posted 30/08/2024 at 23:19:59
Wonder if DCL goes the other way?
Rob Halligan
252 Posted 30/08/2024 at 23:20:16
Agree Dave. £6M obligation to pay, could rise to £10M. I think we paid £12M for him, so another excellent piece of business by Thelwell
Brent Stephens
253 Posted 30/08/2024 at 23:21:06
BBC said deal for Broja transfer to Ipswich brole down because of injury. Careful, Everton?
Stephen Davies
254 Posted 30/08/2024 at 23:23:43
Numerous sources Shane but David Ornstein is a solid source.Loan, option to buy.
Only worry is I think he has a foot injury
Paul Hewitt
255 Posted 30/08/2024 at 23:27:57
Shouldn't go anywhere near this deal.
Paul Hewitt
256 Posted 30/08/2024 at 23:27:58
Shouldn't go anywhere near this deal.
Keith Harrison
257 Posted 30/08/2024 at 23:28:45
Stephen,
Just over a week ago David Ornstein reported Jarrad had signed a 5 year contract with Liverpool, who paid us £75m for him.
Some days later he did not believe the popular reports that Branthwaite was going there. They are virtually all click bait liars, with very few exceptions, Romano seems the one with his finger on the pulse.
Brian Cleveland
258 Posted 30/08/2024 at 23:28:59
Sky announced there is a deal sheet for Broja to Everton, 1 year loan.
Paul Ferry
259 Posted 30/08/2024 at 23:29:13
So we might be loaning someone with a 30 million option to buy who is out for 2 months with an injury and has scored 2 goals in 26 for Chelsea, 6 in 32 for Southampton, and 5 in 23 for Albania - grand total, 13 goals in 81 games!

Palace pay 30M for Nketiah. Wolves pick up a youngish Brazilian midfielder international who starred in winning the final in the South-American equivalent of the Champions League. And Ipswich swerve Broja.

And we make a desperate last minute effort to pick up said Ipswich reject.

Paul Smith
260 Posted 30/08/2024 at 23:35:49
Sounds like he'll fit right in - PF
Paul Ferry
261 Posted 30/08/2024 at 23:38:15
I know we need a striker Paul (S) and Broja is probably better than nothing if and when he is fit enough to play, but if nothing else this just sums us up I fear. Who else would cough up 2 months salary for an injured fella who at most would give us another six months?
Stephen Davies
262 Posted 30/08/2024 at 23:41:53
Keith...I don't know anything about that... can't find anything about that.
Have you got a Link?
Anthony Flack
263 Posted 30/08/2024 at 23:43:50
I’m fairly sure none of us know the basis of the deal

Who’s paying what or when

I was negative about this online this morning

But I’m ok with it. now, loan and option ….

Makes sense

Paul Smith
264 Posted 30/08/2024 at 23:48:31
I think we've taken injured players on loan before or even outright bought them ? We're paying his wages knowing he can't play from the off.
Ian Pilkington
265 Posted 30/08/2024 at 23:49:55
Also reported on BBC Sport.
Anthony Flack
266 Posted 30/08/2024 at 23:52:41
Paul how do you know we are paying his wages or is it an assumption - maybe a good one maybe not …

We might be we might not be ?

I have no inside knowledge

But with any transaction you weigh up the overall value

I remember someone bought a house off me 3 months before they moved in ….

Maybe it will turn out ok

Paul Ferry
267 Posted 30/08/2024 at 23:55:37
You're right Anthony and Chelsea simply want to get players off the books. But there would need to be some sort of fee wouldn't there and at least a slice of wages?
Colin Glassar
268 Posted 31/08/2024 at 00:02:29
Is Broja the forward Moshiri promised us a few years ago? Maybe Moutinho will come in in the next window? As for Riquelme, I’ve still not lost hope.
Michael Boardman
269 Posted 31/08/2024 at 00:05:47
So we're after a striker, on loan, that Ipswich, who have signed anyone with a pulse this summer, rejected via a medical?

At the last minute?

Hope this turns out well

Paul Ferry
270 Posted 31/08/2024 at 00:10:53
I feel the same Michael (269) and at the risk of sounding overly dramatic, I find it a tad embarrassing: basement club in desperate last-minute effort to take on loan an injured player who just failed a medical at Ipswich.

Will our medics just turn a blind eye?

What was that advert: "It's the fish that John West rejects that makes John West the best".

Maybe it will work out? Cross fingers.

Justin Doone
271 Posted 31/08/2024 at 03:25:35
Broja a surprise but a player we have been linked with for a few seasons.
If he wasn't injured, he'd be an Ipswich player. Could this be a bit of luck that goes our way?

I could be wrong but I feel like he's had a number of injuries over the years which is a concern for any young player.

At least there is an option. If things work out well £30m for a good striker is a good price.

As for Mangala, Forest apparently had to sell him to help with financial issues. They bought for £25m and sold for £30m. His value remains at £30m which may be a little steep for a CDM but it's good to have an option to try before we buy on the 2 new recruits and worry about funding at a later date.

I have a feeling Chelsea could be Doms next port of call come January should he play well until then and Broja is part of such an agreement but done as a separate deal.

Sean Turtle
272 Posted 31/08/2024 at 06:54:18
Echo states that we don't pay a penny to Chelsea for Broja until he makes a matchday squad. That's not a bad deal. Unless we get to the point that we can't select him because of that clause. Hope not!
Denis Richardson
273 Posted 31/08/2024 at 07:05:16
Wow what a surprised ending. Went to bed thinking all was done. Well done Everton on an actually very decent window.

Broja we’ll find out about in a couple of months but as it’s a loan no big cash risk. Same with Mangala. Maupay AND Holgate gone??? Must be dreaming. Only Keane left for the clear out and he only has one year left on his contract.

High five for Thellwell from me. Now over to Dyche - massive game today.

Brian Williams
274 Posted 31/08/2024 at 08:03:13
Paul#264.
I think we've taken injured players on loan before or even outright bought them ? We're paying his wages knowing he can't play from the off.

Ohhhhhhh no we're not! :-)

Jerome Shields
275 Posted 31/08/2024 at 08:18:40
Bring players in the make a immediate impact on the team is not Dyche's way.Players will be worked into the Dyche team when required, on his judgement. That many of us will not agree with.

Everton seem to get caught out in the middle of the park, with wingers forced to come inside reducing width.Maybe it is all too slow and predictable.

Kevin Edward
276 Posted 31/08/2024 at 09:01:55
Was expecting DCL to have moved on, quite surprised that there wasn’t a late bid from somewhere. Perhaps Chelsea are in waiting in the wings depending on Broja, as others have commented elsewhere.

Considering the situation we are in, to bring in some young new faces should freshen up the squad and perhaps squeeze some juice out of the older regularly relegation threatened stalwarts.

But it’s all on the manager now to assemble a team on the pitch that can defend and score goals, so Bournemouth today is key.

Lose badly today and the new faces will get a sour induction, but a smart win will give them a real taste of Everton.

Andrew Clare
277 Posted 31/08/2024 at 09:12:56
A win today is important. We have to acknowledge that the bottom half of the table teams (our competitors) have squads that are equal if not better than ours now. They will be well organised and possess fast skillful players.
Jerome Shields
278 Posted 31/08/2024 at 10:12:41

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