Transfer window closes with two in and two out

May need??? Have I just woken up in an alternative reality?

Yes, I had to do a double take of that comment, too!

I was supportive of Dyche but he is gradually ' grinding my gears, as Peter Griffin puts it '.

Financially, it's going to make absolute sense to take an offer for DCL, but I just don't see how we stay in this league without a striker. Beto doesn't yet appear to be a realistic option.

To move into a season with only three center backs -- one of them currently injured and another still unproven -- strikes me as about three yards past insanity.

Four is the absolute minimum.

Courtesy for years of Moshiri and his self servingly deluded/greedy football chairman we are now just about on a par with Ipswich right now as a club, with any prospect at all at avoiding relegation a distant dream.

Desperate, albeit now necessary, revolution in ownership/boardroom is now mandatory

..... like Moshiri gives a fuck for any of us though.

Thanks Kenwright, and may all your fatuous personal beneficiaries alone prosper from your decades-long machinations to make them wealthy at the cost of the whole genuine Toffee fanbase.

I hope we keep Dominic.

And keep Branthwaite at all costs.

There's no way we can afford to sell DCL now but it's obviously a risk to keep a player now who's head appears to be elsewhere and knows his near future won't be in an Everton shirt.Link

No way we can sell him now though it's too late, you can't leave yourself with Beto and Chermiti, a combined THREE league goals between them

We've fucked up this Calvert -Lewin situation big time.

I don't see enough goals in this side whatsoever.

We should have reduced considerably the asking price, then the Geordie's might just have signed him and paid him the wage he's after, I doubt it but you never know.

I'd rather have sold him two months ago so we have time to sign that replacement (not that I believe we'd have got that right)

I don't know our valuation of him but I heard it's £30 million, that's insane for a player that walks away for nothing next year now.

It's clear he's not signing and the money we've put to him isn't going to be enough to convince him to stay, so for me it should be taken off the board now.

We need to start making his mind up for him.

There won't be any offers for him this year now, I don't see any reputable club offering him a deal next year either, at best he'll warm the bench at Newcastle one day or West Ham.

All it's done is leave us in limbo now because we don't have any assurance with him staying and don't get a high earner off the wage bill or any kind of fee.

Out: Maupay and Holgate.

We'll we still be short of a forward, a right sided winger and cover at left back.

DCL I expect will remain and see out his contract, he will probably get a big signing on fee for whoever he signs for next summer. However, to any prospective and competitve employer he will have to prove to them that he's worth the wages/contract and therefore he will need to start producing performances whilst he remains at the club.

WE KNOW HOW YOU FEEL!

No need to keep repeating it.

Mal van Schaick 21 - Holgate can go. Sign a new striker and put DCL in the reserves.

Brilliant Mal, your understanding of our finances is spot on. Your judgment is sound as a pound - the pound that fluctuates wildly and widely against the dollar and euro.

Tell yer what lads and lasses, I can't wait for the first John Lennon/Titanic/Castle Street hilarious Riquelme gags. They just make my deadline day and float my boat.

It wouldn't be D Day without them. I'm heading off to zzzzzzzzz now after a wine-full highly successful dinner party where yours truly cooked middle-eastern grub, and all I can think about is a brill Riquelme gag.

Dyche and Thelwell have deliberately priced him out of the market. They are terrified at the prospect of trying to stay up without him.

Unlike his army of critics who judge him solely as a goalscorer, they (and all of their predecessors) recognise what a terrific player he actually is. One who could score goals if he didnt have two other jobs to do.

I'm not normally a transfer deadline day follower. I can't bear the "Why don't we just swap Holgate or Haaland?" type of nonsense. I normally wait until the next morning to see who we have actually sold and bought.

Today is different. I am nervous. If those who have been dying to see the back of Calvert-Lewin get their way today. Beto and Chermiti will be our main hope of survival. Whilst I will support both of these lads as long as they wear blue shirts. If we are relying on them for survival, I don't believe we have a prayer.

As for another forward coming in. One that could fit into what has been the Everton way of playing for decades... Don't make me laugh!

Now Mr Maupay, that is definitely Not Normal!

Boo them when they fracture a cheekbone and call them sissies.

PF, you forgot to mention the very funny "Moutinho spotted" jokes.

mmm... Lambrini and donner kebabs

We need the defensive cover and he has actually played alright this season.

If we achieve the latter then maybe send Patterson to the Championship or Scotland on loan as he needs games once fit again.

Hallelujah to your first three paragraphs.

Don't feel quite so alone now!

This is when you realise football is dead.

Take the ridiculous situation that Brentford are in they haven't played Toney in any of their games even though he is fit to start games.

I don't know whether Brentford won't play him in case he gets injured which might scupper a lucrative deal, or whether it's Toney refusing to play. Either way, it's a stupid position to put players and clubs in, and it wouldn't happen if the window closed before the season started.

This is why we will never be in the market for anybody better than Beto.

He played through a bad injury a couple of seasons ago and whilst he is not the quickest he's been a good servant for the Club in a difficult( understatement) period.

I hope he and Branthwaite stay today. Even if we don't get anyone else in today I'll be “happy” (well, at least less miserable) with that.

Keane seems a decent hardworking lad, means well, trys his best, gives his best. Holgate the polar opposite

Most strikers who are good in the air routinely help on corners too, offensively and defensively.

I'd be much more leniant if I saw Richarlison fire in his belly.

However, they are not the only ones who need the money and those building a new ground or face a points penalty are in an even worse circumstance which might be the deciding factor in Calvert-Lewin's transfer as the prize money for him possibly helping us to a higher league position pales against what we might receive in a transfer fee. The downside, obviously, is would we survive if relegated from the Premier League.

Is there anyone named Solomon interested in buying the club or do we just carry on loaning and signing players from an interested party who also has an interest in another non-English club. It all begs the question of which is the bigger joke.

Priority is to keep Branthwaite.

I had Sky Sports on in the background, but it started boring me so I've the BBC News on. The lesser of two evils.

No doubt I will switch on later.

Only downside is that you will probably not be offered another job after you have earnt your £120m tax free.

And some of you on here think Osimhen should have turned down the Saudis? If it was you, would you have turned it down (Same for Toney)

His ideas of playing for a top side seem fanciful IMO.

If he stays, we don't, assuming he stays fit. Simple as that. 🤷‍♂️

I read some article the other day about him making more runs than any other striker in the first 2 games, but is completely ignored by his teammates, and as a result has only had one shot on goal.

If a decent offer comes in then I fear Calvert-Lewin goes, but we must have replacement(s) lined up, not just Fofana from Chelsea.

We would be in serious trouble with just Beto and Chermiti.

Conversely, Branthwaite plays and we have the chance to draw.

Shall we give him a go? (*this may be a wind-up :))

Amazing really.

It's the Peter Principle: Everyone is promoted to their level of incompetence.

Look at whoever gave them their contracts. That's where the incompetence is.

If we signed the new Bob Latchford and played like we do, he too would have the same returns as Calvert-Lewin or dare I say Maupay.

We have to change our style for Calvert-Lewin or any striker if they are to thrive.

At least some of the petro dollars make their way back to Europe, albeit via Monaco and Switzerland no doubt, and help keep the luxury brands afloat

Most footballers are mercenaries so can't blame them for going there to cash in. Toney will be getting about £20m a year tax free as well if he goes. That's more money that he could dream of just a couple of years ago.

Helicopter money but I can't see the SPL ever being that enticing that players go there for a long time. One or two seasons on silly money and you'd think they'd move back to 'normality'. Unless of course they're allowed into the champions league

If you're a very good footballer you either care about winning credible trophies or you care about huge money.

I don't have an issue with either.

But Everton can't offer either of those things!

He won't be getting any redemption from us then!!!!

Toney has agreed fees and terms and is having a medical in London today so that's pretty much a done deal. While the fund is huge, my understanding is that they don't actually have the funding allocated for both players, and the club doesn't need 2 strikers anyway.

Napoli bought Lukaku the other day, which suggests Osimhen will leave, but where will he go, Chelsea?

Im stlii not convinced by the incoming players, Calvert-Lewin needs to go and we should be looking for a genuine striker, I don't care if its a one-season wonder or someone at the end of their career, eg, Vardy or the like.

We need a nasty, selfish, gobby bastard upfront who will "demand" the ball.

"We need a nasty, selfish, gobby bastard upfront who will "demand" the ball."

You mean like Maupay?

And for all those who want rid, we can say goodbye to over £100M and be a Championship team next season if we only have Beto upfront.

I'd still be critical of the club over his new contract offer. because waiting until a player has 12 months left on his contract is always a gamble

I just hope Mangala signs, and a right-winger, and Holgate out.

That should do him some good

Any chance of a sneaky offer to Spurs for a loan deal for Richarlison, who's only a squad player now?

How about the Luton left back Doughty? Our ex- player Thierry Small?

Surely Chelsea have a few players which we could loan one and buy a young right back from?

Holgate can move on as he's 5th choice and not needed.

I didn't even know he was going to Lyon.

This might be a controversial view but assuming Mangala comes in I would be inclined to sell Doucs to Saudi if possible? He is a huge earner and quite frankly Ndiaye and Lindstrom will offer more as a no 10.

Get some money for Doucs now while we can, especially if that means we can keep Dom for the season. I would like to see Holgate go too, useless, I am however also feeling a need to be a little protective towards Keane who I believe is a half decent back up CB and squad filler.

Any money from these two (assuming we keep Dom) should go on Fellows of West Brom.

Anyone remember?

I still find the whole thing odd that the PIF (essentially a bottomless money pit) can own 4 of the 18 teams in the league. Looking it up, a PIF owned club has won the Saudi league in each of the last 11 seasons (including Al Hilal x6 and Al Nassr x3) and come runner up 10 of those 11. I presume that's not going to change any time soon.

They only have one slot left for an overseas player in their squad.

So for that I'm thankful!

But I'm still entitled to complain about his blinkered view on Bill Kenwright, the lack of on field improvement, and not bringing in the best people needed to transform their whole club.

Everything from manager and player recruitment, financial control and our commercial activity remains third-rate or below.

Had them as 99% likely to go down — now less so.

They could get rid of one other overseas player no?

Their windows open until Monday.

The Italian window also shuts tonight, so I don't see how they can buy both players today even if they wanted to.

All Balls to me ! :-)

Who would we get in a swap deal with Chelsea I wonder — David Fofana? Broja? It would surely have to be a striker.

Strange that our current keeper occupies the England shirt and not Ramsdale.

Obviously Arteta and the England boss are not very good at deciding the various qualities of a goalkeeper?

Maupay is getting a lot of stick here. He hasn't had a great time at Everton and became a whipping boy for supporters. But, let's be honest he's not designed to be a sole striker in this Everton team. No one is. It's an isolated position, with little backup.

I don't get a lot of the criticism. There is a reason he has played at the highest level and will do again now. Good luck to him.

As for that one individual who abused him, I hope you're proud of yourself. I would gladly meet you. I'm sure it was frustration boiling over.

- Fofana
- Broja (who failed medical at Ipswich)
- Nuamah
- Mangala
- Assignon (the RB who was on loan at Burnley latter half of last season)
- Trippier

Might be a few others too.

Still also time for DCL to leave with Chelsea now looking the most likely destination.

The good news is that it looks very unlikely Branthwaite will leave this summer. Hopefully not spoken too soon on that - but if we hang onto him that's a big coup for the club that has developed him from raw potential into a brilliant young player.

Wouldn't be surprise if there a no further incomings or outgoings at all. A bit disappointing but not a disaster - and could have been much, much worse.

(I have not checked that just a lazy comment)

Dyche or the club? Or a combination of the two?

Total reset is needed at this club with Dyche and Thelwell and others all out the door under new ownership.

Calvert-Lewin might also be an option for Brentford if Toney leaves.

With Maupay, it's not just his football. His attitude to people, other professionals. Snide comments. If he was good at what he is getting paid for I'd say okay. But he is not. Attitude stinks.

So for me glad he has gone. And I hope he falls on his arse there. If he stays on the pitch long enough. As for the fella shouting, yes he was wrong. The prick Maupay's reaction summed Maupay up for me.

If only old Baldy Dyche could pull off a similar coup. I guess a man can dream!

Also, I suspect that Calvert-Lewin would probably rather play another season for us and then have better options as a free agent next summer, than join Brentford now.

Anthony # 100, you're right Broja is less prolific (so far) than Calvert-Lewin — but it is pretty much out of the question that we could afford to replace Calvert-Lewin with anyone more prolific (at least straightaway).

And Nuamah is talking to Fulham now. Apparently unlikely he's coming to us.

For once, we did our business early, so Mangala apart I can't see us doing much today.

Of course Rob, many won't believe that, but if it was a two fingered wave - I would ! :-)

On other players to sell, all players have their value. Most urgent is anyone in the last season of their contract.
Dom, I'd happily take £20m. His potential goals to keep us in the league are worth that as a minimum. Keane £3m, Holgate £1m. Something is better than nothing.

The next 7 hour's could be the most exciting of our season. How sad is that!

I know little about Mangala, but we do need extas in midfield.

Les, all footballers have egos, but he did not deserve that abuse. If I would have been there, I would have told the guy.

Sorry but I find your post a bit odd tbh.

Or you could be right and that Osimhen simply wanted too much money and they've decided Toney is better at the price.

We need RB, cover at LB and a striker

Not another midfielder, or CB

If DCL leaves, then we are done. If JB leaves, then that says everything about this cliub.

BUT WE NEED A RB

I'd happily sell Pickford for a decent fee. There's enough similar level keeper's warming benches all around Europe. Many free or loans to be had.

I've never been convinced by Begovic, but again a similar level, probably a little to old / slow to put pressure on Pickford for no. 1.

But our major recruitment issues are further up the pitch not GK. I'm hopeful another cheap / loan player can be found who is a real gem.

What's sad is that you think that Justin!

They own 4 clubs, but I don't think they're allowed to just buy a player and allocate him to one of 4 clubs in that manner. As I understand it, PIF finance them, but the clubs are effectively separate entities so any contract is with the club in question, not PIF as an over-arching financier.

Branthwaite is going nowhere.

Anyone seen a right-back at JL, Titanic, Castle Street, or flying over Rob's house?

As others have said, he's the ideal squad player, providing depth we desperately need, and I think we'd be nuts to sell him.

And speaking of nuts... Justin, if you really think Picks is a "good to average" keeper....

However, doesn't really matter how good Pickford is (or isn't) if Saints are improved they are more of a challenge to us no? That's assuming we have another mare of a season of course.

Slightly different topic. I'm not a massive Pickford fan myself as I prefer a keeper who commands his box and takes no prisoners. He's also a bit on the small side for me. He's a good shop stopper but very average on everything else for me.

Hopefully we can get few wins and look up not down anyway.

A RB, cover at LB and a CF who scores goals and links up play. Have we checked the shelves at Netto yet. We may be able to afford their prices !

At last we are free, they all cry, from what will prove to be one of the worst signings in Everton's history.

Everton just don't have any financial clout so no good hoping for that class striker which could be a big help.

DCL, Beto, Chermitti and whoever can contribute from the attacking midfield which isn't great so it's very much like last season or will Deli Alli be used at some point.

Ndaiye and Doucoure could tag up well together but the back four is a real problem with Branthwaite injured and not much at fullback/wingback to get excited about.

A win against Bournemouth would be a big plus to kickstart the season but I fear most wins they get will be hard to come by unless the financial situation changes big time before January 1st.

Yes they are separate clubs and legal entities but I imagine ‘a deal' is but a phone call away.

Anyway, we'll find out in 6 hours.

I would love to think Mr Ferry did not have his tongue firmly in his cheek. Unfortunately.....

"Holgate to Lyon collapses.

Right, I'm back from the podcast and - if you were watching - you would have heard me say a deal for Mason Holgate to join Lyon has fallen through."

How the mighty (Lyon) have fallen since John Textor took over.

I understand that we can have no more than two English League players and two foreign league players on loan. But there is another rule that I think limits the number of loan players on the roster to two.

I would really appreciate an explanation of how many loan players can be on a matchday roster.

Habib, to answer your questions, PL clubs are limited to registering two loan players at any one time, and the maximum is four in the same season.

Denis #140, yeah, these cozy deals smell funny sometimes but that's the way the Prem clubs want it. They voted just a few months ago to allow loan moves between co-owned clubs. I recall that the vote wasn't close.

“And, whilst Tim Iroegbunam was brought in before the Belgium international left the Toffees, from the opening games of the Premier League season, it's evident that he isn't yet quite ready for consistent top-flight football.”

Christ, he's one of the only ones who is ready!

Dyche dealt it.

I also know who Bella Emberg is and at this stage I would even consider her on a pay to play basis!

A one-trick pony who only specialises in dead-ball situations.

Calvert-Lewin aged 37 is still our principal striker. He has scored 34 goals in the last ten seasons.

Everton reportedly considering getting former player Ellis Simms back on loan.

Everton prove Fabrizio Romano completely wrong and are close to deal to sign £15m player

Everton have just made Fabrizio Romano look foolish by going against his claims to close a deal for Ernest Nuamah.

Somebody there really doesn't like Romano. Putting him first in the headline ahead of the player signing.

Little improvement on last season likely but no doubt we shall be sold the line that keeping both Branthwaite and Calvert-Lewin is like two new signings!

I hope it's an option and not obligation, so we get a good look first. Reported fee of £30M+ sounds a lot for someone they signed for £15-20M in the summer.

That's that then. I'm off to bed.

All I've heard is that he preferred Fulham but the deal hit a snag and now Everton are back in the frame for him.

I'll get me coat.

Don't think it's gonna be Dyche ball for him.

Thelwell is now bringing Dyche in to see if he can smell the player's level of interest in joining us.

Still haven't managed to come up with an alternative.

Do you mean the move to Fulham is collapsing?

We are now 1 if 3 clubs all offering him mountains of gold when this should have been sorted in early July...

We can't afford to sell the guy that's already got his thoughts elsewhere

Positive however that Branthwaites here at least one more year and Dixon has not been loaned out. DCL saga will be interesting to watch but he'll have to put himself about if he wants a top club next summer.

I'd give it a 7/10 for the window - being generous as was going with 6.5/10 initially but Maupay going nudged it to a 7.

Maybe a free agent or two in the next week or so.

2017?

I guess it brings the chapter to a close.

I think I'll stick a documentary on and fall asleep. Big day tomorrow blues.

And at least we wont be paying him 2.5m to sit in the wings next season

Palace pay 30M for Nketiah. Wolves pick up a youngish Brazilian midfielder international who starred in winning the final in the South-American equivalent of the Champions League. And Ipswich swerve Broja.

And we make a desperate last minute effort to pick up said Ipswich reject.

Who's paying what or when

I was negative about this online this morning

But I'm ok with it. now, loan and option ….

Makes sense

We might be we might not be ?

I have no inside knowledge

But with any transaction you weigh up the overall value

I remember someone bought a house off me 3 months before they moved in ….

Maybe it will turn out ok

At the last minute?

Hope this turns out well

Will our medics just turn a blind eye?

What was that advert: "It's the fish that John West rejects that makes John West the best".

Maybe it will work out? Cross fingers.

I could be wrong but I feel like he's had a number of injuries over the years which is a concern for any young player.

At least there is an option. If things work out well £30m for a good striker is a good price.

As for Mangala, Forest apparently had to sell him to help with financial issues. They bought for £25m and sold for £30m. His value remains at £30m which may be a little steep for a CDM but it's good to have an option to try before we buy on the 2 new recruits and worry about funding at a later date.

I have a feeling Chelsea could be Doms next port of call come January should he play well until then and Broja is part of such an agreement but done as a separate deal.

Broja we'll find out about in a couple of months but as it's a loan no big cash risk. Same with Mangala. Maupay AND Holgate gone??? Must be dreaming. Only Keane left for the clear out and he only has one year left on his contract.

High five for Thellwell from me. Now over to Dyche - massive game today.

Ohhhhhhh no we're not! :-)

Everton seem to get caught out in the middle of the park, with wingers forced to come inside reducing width.Maybe it is all too slow and predictable.

Considering the situation we are in, to bring in some young new faces should freshen up the squad and perhaps squeeze some juice out of the older regularly relegation threatened stalwarts.

But it's all on the manager now to assemble a team on the pitch that can defend and score goals, so Bournemouth today is key.

Lose badly today and the new faces will get a sour induction, but a smart win will give them a real taste of Everton.

Everton seem to get caught out in the middle of the park, with wingers forced to come inside, reducing width. Maybe it is all too slow and predictable.

Now Sean, here's the plan: how about getting some quality service into him, ie, drop your mate, the one-paced ineffective McNeil, drop Doucouré and play Ndiaye just behind Calvert-Lewin, and play Harrison on the left, like Bielsa did at Leeds.

Obviously he won't listen to a word I've said and today he'll bring back Young and Doucoure.

The thing is, Sean, carry on like this and you'll sack yourself.

But I swear if I see Dom foraging on the flanks, I'll scream that loud from my seat, you'll hear me at the Pier Head!

And yet: the weird thing is, we would all have judged success this summer as bringing in some young players (we have), retaining Calvert-Lewin, Branthwaite and Pickford (we have), and making some headway on PSR (we have).

Given the constraints Thelwell is operating under (no money, a league determined to break us, and 3 years' worth of misery), I'd say that he's done spectacularly. Added to that, we've shipped out Holgate and Maupay.

It's time to get behind the manager and the team. It's been a rocky start to the season, but we've a winnable game today, and things look a whole lot more positive after the international break.

"Things look a whole lot more positive after the international break."

Er... do they? A lot will depend on today's result, which I don't think anyone knows just yet, but give us an hour or three…

And bringing in another injured player who will be out for 2 months minimum. Where's the sense in that?

Dyche not being honest with us either about the players who are still out injured. When are they expected back?

I'll put my rosy and positive demeanour on hold a while longer, if it's alright with you, until we are actually given something worthwhile on the field to cheer and, er, 'get behind'.