Dyche sacked just hours before Peterborough tie

Lets pray the Friedkin group has a carefully curated plan and the new manager has been lined up.

Yippeee! No more anti-football... no more horrible press conferences (although he was ironically almost bearable in his final one yesterday).

Interesting they sack him so close to the game.

Also makes me think the recent media articles about how the squad loved him etc. were puff pieces by his own PR team.

Our performances have been embarrassing at times this season, no sign of synergy or any kind of link-up play or even anything resembling modern football.

He has nobody to blame but himself for his sheer favouritism and stubbornness.

I'm glad Dyche, the club and the fans have been put out of their misery.

Best of luck in the next job.

This is where we find out just how good the owners are going to be.

Decisive action has been made in Dyche's removal, now the hardest part, get the next one right.

I'd be concerned if it was just another big name, it's just being blinded by Hollywood status much like Moshiri was early on.

For this reason as much as I admire what Jose Mourinho has achieved in his career it's all over a decade ago now, how many of today's players who are aged 20-25 are in tune with success of that period?

Would the football be greatly different from that of Sean Dyche?

Yes he'd have more money available, he'd also have more pulling power but I'm just rather cautious.

If I had my choice Thomas Frank is a man that speaks positively and seems very in tune with the modern way of thinking but I can't see that happening not until summer if ever.

Clearly the rumours that we were speaking to Graham Potter was true, if that was the case and he's chosen West Ham ahead of Everton then what a damn sorry state of affairs

I imagine that was the point the decision to bullet him was made.

What a depressing list.

You not kidding us on there? Lol

I just don't see Carsley opting for League over Country.

No he was sacked before the end of that season.

Klopp is 50/1
2% of all bets have been on Klopp. That's just weird.

Yep.

Couple of observations.

Dyche will not have relegation on his CV if we go down.

And if we do fall into the drop zone after not being there all season. What will those who have been screaming he was definitely taking us down say ?... Oops ???

To.

"Awful timing." "What are we gonna do now"? "Harsh!"

Baines and Coleman get short notice but good to give them this as a precursor to the next prem game if no-one comes in quickly.

Notable that Dyche took trainig today, so short notice to change a lot...

But i still hope to see some notable shift on personnel, shape and tactics.

Interesting times

I'd like the new man to be someone I've never heard of who will revolutionise the way the game is played and lead us to world domination over the next ten years.

I'm afraid that a "progressive" systems-based manager coming in to try and change the way this squad play (think splitting the centre-backs and playing out of defence) is a recipe for relegation. At least Potter is out of the equation.

Why didn't the Club Statement even have a word of thanks for Sean Dyche who worked in a toxic, uncertain environment and conducted himself with dignity throughout?

Be careful what you wish for.

I never expected that!

Coleman and Baines; interesting? Nothing against the idea, just interesting.

Maybe TFG do read TW as there were many posters suggesting this combo.

I wonder if Thelwell, under instruction, asked to see Sean's team sheet and tactics, which may have been Plan A version 1.0.0 and when Thelwell reported back, the 'board' said enough, we need to win.

And binned him!

As AS_Roma_Fan on GOT said in his post there;

""Out of nowhere decisions. Since they don't speak, journalists are clueless about their moves. Every time it's a big surprise. For example, nobody had linked Roma with Mourinho until the official statement was published on asroma.com.""

It might lift the squad, I can't see how it wouldn't, but it may also come back to bite us, unless Baines and Coleman had been prewarned that this scenario may happen?

Good luck to them both, and the team, and if this is Kevin's idea alone, good luck to him to.

Thanks for all your work and effort Sean, you just kept going back to the well too often. Bon chance!

Well said, and very gracious to boot.

Chapeau!

I get what you mean but I'm not being careful what I wish for no.

Failing to score in 11 out of 19 games this season, not registering a shot in many of them, giving him many of his own players in three transfer windows and progressively regressing since this time last year.

No hard feelings on Sean Dyche, he came to do a job, did relatively ok in the first year but no, his position has been beyond tenable now.

I'm sorry but some fans are just stupid, we have had Dyche footy for nearly three years, yes he did a job but my god it was painful. I have only done one game this season at home, I give away my 2 Tickets FOC to family, they can walk to GP yet on occasions my tickets are not used because they cant be bothered, at least I have 500 mile round trip.

I will go to Villa next week now that stubborn sod has gone! its the Faith that kills you :-)

Mourinho would be a massive upgrade on what we had, maybe a bit too early for him but nevertheless the players would do what he tells them too. COYB

To be honest, the run of results has been so poor he can't have any complaints. I don't begrudge him any of his compensation, he's probably as relieved as we are. He did well to keep us up for two years so fair enough, now we all need to move on.

I just hope it's not Mourinho as that would give me deep concerns. That list of potentials back there is depressing.

Anyway, hopefully it is the right move. It's not just a matter of sacking him the bigger thing is getting the right replacement. TFG made of mess of managerial appointments at Roma with Mourinho, De Rossi, then the crap new Soton manager and now Ranieri. Doesn't fill me with much confidence but here is hoping.

How so "clearly"? and then "if that was the case"?

Bit of fence sitting there Jim.

I've seen no hard evidence that the club offered Potter the job.

Why would we want DCL to sign a new contract anyway?

He's pissed us about for a year and frankly, no I'd been sending him on his way soon as possible.

Again, been a decent performer but he's nowhere near good enough

Of the above three (these are the ones i've picked out of the hat because I feel they have the most pedigree) there are plusses and minuses for each. On balance my choice would be Fonseca but I wouldn't sniff at any of them.

The Jose hate I get but I think he would get us, I think the crowd would fucking love his passion and wind up tactics. Would he fancy a project? Let's see. His brand of football would be an easier transition for our limited players.

Watch DCL score a brace tonight and for the crowd to be upbeat and really get behind Seamus and Bainsey.

Let's hope the replacement is appointed very quickly.

Fonseca or Moyes for me with Galtier a risky consideration.

Indeed, very curious that the club statement didn’t express the usual platitudes…sparks must have been flying today

As for tonights game I would have fully expected EFC to win this game, with or without Dyche. Any interim managers "bounce" will only be clear as they begin to work with players in the coming days/weeks although it will be interesting to see what team they do put out tonight!

We need to get the next appointment right!

Baines and Coleman in charge

Please can I say that I share your reservations too.

I won't defend Dyche's tactics and selections, or his in game management and substitutions but - until this season (apparently as of now) they have effectively kept the squad insulated from the 'noise around the club', got us thru two points deductions, and kept us in the league twice.

Good luck to him, he has his systems and footballing beliefs and stuck with them.

Unfortunately for him, the margins kept falling on the wrong side this season.

Just think of the first four games;

What would have happened if we put those two big chances away in the first 35 minutes?

Spurs, injuries and expectations saw the result we got maybe we conceded one or two more than we should have.

Bournemouth, well enough has been written about that fiasco...

Villa, DCL scores his 1v1 or Ndiaye passes to McNeil and we go on to win 3-1, 3-2 or what not.

Well, we'll never know if he would have kept us up or not now...

Good luck to the man.

Yes, I'm a glutton for punishment but I can't help liking him. And yes, I know I'm in the minority.

Good sense tells me that TFG have someone ready to step in (oven ready).

But I have to say seems a bit odd so close to kick off. I’d love to know what’s been said to Mr Dyche.

Cum on feel the noize. This is good news isn’t it?

Thanks for dragging us out of almost certain relegation the last two years but based on his negative style of football, it’s better he’s gone now with the transfer window open and half a season left. That’s assuming TFG have a plan !!!

I'm hoping it'll be a swift turn 'round, with an appointment imminent.

Dyche: 'here's the team sheet - we'll be lucky to beat Peterborough as we can't score'.

Board: WTF!

Sky saying he's out of work. Knows Baines and Coleman and we can save the money for a striker.

Sarri: might be a good bet. Has certainly built clubs up. Not sure about his track record about averting disaster at the wrong end of the table. Not sure what he'd make of our current squad.

Fonseca: I think at least part of Dyche's downfall was his lack of glamour, and lack of big club look. Fonseca is handsome and foreign, so looks the part (tick) but is not an especially great coach (ups and downs). Quite high risk.

But in all honesty, the Friedkin's appointments at Roma indicate we might be overly hopefully as regards these big names. I also think the fact we're being outbid by Ipswich for Philogene indicates how unattractive we might be to a manager right now.

For this and various other reasons, I still think Moyes is overwhelmingly the most likely candidate - on a 2 year deal with an option for a 3rd season.

Then I suspect the following will have been considered:

- Steve Cooper
- Edin Terzic
- Graham Potter

Obviously Potter has gone to West Ham (currently the 16th richest club in the world).

I don't think Kieran McKenna or Thomas Frank will feature in this at all - because they won't move until summer (each with an eye on the Spurs job).

I know lots of other names have been mentioned, and good ones too, but I'm saying here what I think is likely - not what I want.

Ranieri to Everton as an interim, and one of the big names to Roma i.e. Sarri, Allegri or Fonseca!? Doh! Not Conceição....

Apparently Fabio Paratici (DoF) going to AS Roma too

Cars knackered so can't get over the Pennines tonight.
But I'll be screaming at the Telly for 90 minutes.

Sky (if you believe them) mentioned Potter had been contacted but that may have been just Sky and I don't think Potter would have done much but he did shape the Seagulls.

Let's see what happens as it needs to be soon.

Dyche had to go, shame he couldn’t change his approach but he managed us through chaos so something to thank him for.

I understand the feeling from some against Moyes, but I think he might be our best bet to see out this season. His departure left a lot to be desired but I always thought he would have done well with the money Moshiri wafted about early on.

Hey ho, no idea who’s coming but agreed it’s a good early test for TFG, hopefully they saw the writing on the wall before the last two disasters.

NSNO

I wasnt sure whether to laugh or cry at the timing. You made me smile instead

I do like the silence, followed by action. A much better way of doing things.

Going to the home games this season expecting us to be shit - is the most damning thing

And why didn’t we go we not go get Potter? Did we even speak with him?

Sure Dyche had to go but the timing is very odd with a few hours until a game.

We HAVE to get the right person in for NOW.

We need to stabilise, get up the table, bring in some seasoned players to get us up the table.

An interim manager would tick the box then appoint a full time manager in the summer.

Sky are all over the Dyche sacking.

Lepotegui got barely chip paper headlines.

Who’s the bigger club !!

On the new man... the Sporting Life, as of 15 minutes ago, are showing David Moyes as odds on favourite.

That's just being mischievous! You rascal you! Hehe

Well said.

Hey ho can we just win tonight please, maybe.

Anyone we bring in now is a huge risk, doesn't matter who he is.

The two above will know what's wrong, having witnessed it every week, as well as in training, and will have as good an idea, if not better, of what's needed as any new manager coming in who knows little about the players.

Did we not also dither when Arteta wanted to be a manager and leave City?

Did we not believe he wasn’t experienced enough for us.

History tells us otherwise.

He's 28/1 at the moment on Sky Bet so I've 'lumped' a tenner on it.

And yes to whoever previously said that Baines can't possibly do worse than what we've been witnessing lately.

Favourite to replace Moyes😊

He kept us up two years ago and he provided us with a more than solid set of results last year but this year has seen a decline.

An interesting few days ahead. Given the absolute necessity of staying in the league an experienced Manager is required. Whoever is chosen I will be behind him from day one!

Good luck to our former full backs tonight, hopefully, they will get a tune out a mediocre set of players.

I honestly expected our new owners to wait a little longer, but I'll say this for TFG, when they decide it's time, they move.

PT #127 gets it right for me.

I have a pleasant image of the three hard-boiled eggs and bags and cases crammed into Woaney's 1999 Ford Fiesta driving back to Nottingham or, better still, thumbing lifts outside the Rocket.

The book(s) will be interesting.

Dream team!!!

He did terrific before this season - surely we can appreciate that with some respect.

May he find his footing helping other clubs stave off relegation or helping them get promoted.

We’ll never know what he could’ve done with better players, and we’ll find out what others will do with our below-average squad, but let’s hope for a bounce these next few weeks. We sure as hell need it.

If Moyes is the height of the new owners ambition we are in for another long period of meh.

I know another web-warrior, a UK Blue working in Italy, so he's been following AS Roma.

There is a very strong rumour going around that because Everton is currently 'unattractive' and our PL survival isn't secured yet, no-one of any note wants to manage us.

However, it seems that other than paying relocation expenses for Ranieri, who knows and has won the PL, would be willing to firefight for us, while TFG will ask one of Sarri, Allegri or Fonseca to take over. Along with a rumour that Fabio Paratici, Spurs old DoF with Conte, who wanted Fonseca after Conte left will be joining Roma too...

Who knows what will happen... I know I wasn't expecting this, and was calm about Dyche staying till the Villa game in truth.

Really late in the day to be honest

Hopefully they will both read the players the riot act!

I don't really mind who comes in as long as they realise that players in the right positions helps, have an appreciation that defending a nil-nil and trying to nick a nil-nil meaning that 38 draws results in 38 points is never going to cut it among Evertonians, and also have an appreciation of the opposition half and especially the opposing penalty area and recognise this an area to be explored.

I like Sean Dyche and believe he does generally talk a load of sense, have watched some of his master classes and they are really informative but his football leaves a lot to be desired. To be fair, he's just another manager that got worn down by the basket case of a club that we have become.

Good luck to him. Will be interesting to see where he and his management team crop up next.

Hopefully the team can start to push on and play the way they need to now and get some much needed results on the board.

OK maybe Mourinho is a bit old hat as well.

Having said that, the results and performances had become stale and especially the lack of goals had gotten alarming. Will things get hugely better under a new coach ? Unlikely, unless TFG are able to bring in a couple of high quality players and the injured can get back quickly. Having McNeil, Garner and Tim Iroegbunam simultaneously unavailable affected Dyche’s attacking game plan dramatically and he couldn’t adjust unfortunately.

Looking forward, I had a secret name who I wanted us to consider as our next coach in the summer. But sadly, Jimmy Thelin’s (Aberdeen coach) has fallen as dramatically as it had risen. But, NO to Moyes please.

There's surely no point talking about him (or Frank) now.

Luton Job up for grabs. :-)

What makes you think Rooney warrants any type of coaching role? He has a miserable track record of failure as a coach and anyone less famous would never have worked after DC United much less got the Plymouth or Birmingham jobs in replacing lesser known managers who'd been doing well. Yes, he was a great player but the idea he might be a good attacking coach is based on nothing but his player reputation and that was the logic that saw him become a manager. Presumably, there are good experienced attacking coaches out there who'd probably cost less.

But a definite no to Moyes returning. Ok he won a Europeans cup for West Ham. But he was unable to push off from that. The Hammers fans certainly weren’t happy with him.

Let’s not forget how poor Moyes was, and still is, with strikers. He has mastered the art of how to ruin a striker.

Mind you, he couldn’t do much damage with our strikers, most of them have been ruined already

The Bobble which is quite reliable is stating he's meeting the Friedkin's tomorrow

Either way, the squads good enough to win tonight and TFG have a few days to get a new man in by Villa.

New chapter. PLEASE NOT MOYES!

2005/6 we were bottom of the table at New Year and Cahill scored at the death v Sunderland and we finished 11th.

Also in seasons we didn't finish in the top 6/7, he had a number of awful starts and finished in mid table safety. Go on the Everton stats website and you'll see that

Gee, never thought I'd ever defend him after all them big game capitulations.

Just need a crazy Dutch winger and it'll be full on retro.

It was embarrassing to watch. The negativity. The lack of tactical nous. The mind numbing long ball tactics. Jack Harrison etc…

Dyche leaves as an even richer man than when he came. This is a results based game and the results were, lately, pathetic. As for entertainment value, no comment.

Looks like Moyes will return. More negative play but at least, imo, he’ll keep us up. Just hope it’s not long term

Unless the Friedkin's think it'll ingratiate then with the fan base. It won't.

But I predict it will be:

"But when Everton contacted me via Jenny on Blue Bill's old mobile... I just couldn't say no"

I was always against it but it will be an improvement on Dyche.

Some reports that Dyche wanted out and had taken us as far as he could, hence timing of dismissal - all conjecture on X though.

Merson also changed his tune when he backed us to go down last week because we're not set up to win games and draws are no good.

He's now saying if any team is in the bottom 3 or 4, they'll go for Dyche as he'll keep them up. Go figure.

Broja x2.

No wonder other fans laugh at us with this sentimental, backward looking bullshit.

Man Utd: 26 W 10 D 15 L, Win Rate 51%, 1 Season
Sociedad: 12 W 15 D 15 L, Win Rate 29%, 1 Season
Sunderland: 8 W 7 D 28 L, Win Rate 19%, 1 Season
West Ham: 9 W 10 D 12 L, Win Rate 29%, 1 Season
West Ham: 104 W 43 D 84 L, Win Rate 45%, 5 Seasons

However, I expect this is all completely academic because I'd be amazed if he is our next manager.

We may be converging on that point now like walking over a cliff with a blindfold on.

"Sean, Sean, that's a cliff!"
"Noo, it's just a step, you'll be fine"

No manager is bigger than Everton Football Club. The dawn of a new era.

Oh, and where was The Bobble on this? Any other leaks before 4:30?

I just hope it doesnt go pear shaped.

I'm not so sure he'd be a safe bet to keep us up.

Would you not want to impress your new rich American owners? Or would you sit there saying… it’s all money and pies and the quality of gravy and it’s a bit cold and we need to run around bleep testing and we need to aim low and grind out draws and not have a single shot on goal…

I’m hearing he didn’t want to resign - so he and his team get 7 figure payouts… FairPlay…

Moyes? Mostly played like shit, but very, very hard to beat… ugly… ugly… but hated playing top 4 teams. Supercharged Mediocrity…

Don’t want to look back.
Still have Allardyce/Lee nightmares let alone Raf Beneathus…

I’d love Carsley, with Baines and Coleman - too romantic.

Or German Edin…
Or even Ten Hag… show everyone what he can do… because he won stuff with a shower of over paid shite…

Whoever it is - someone who can kick the shit out of DCL so have start scoring again…

“You can wear the skirt and the strap ons on your days off… but put the blue shirt on and score some fucking goals you little prick”

“You can wear the skirt and the strap ons on your days off… but put the blue shirt on and score some fucking goals you little prick”

Or mutual termination?

I could live with that if he keeps us up, gets into Europe, and wins a trophy. Which is what he did for the Hammers.

I'm sure some other daft get of a club will give you a few million to con the fans and put them into a state of dispair. Next!!!

Good riddance no premiership manager can survive with a record as bad as his.

I want the owners to demonstrate they are not a bunch of footballing charlatans. To achieve this surely a quick appointment to demonstrate some thought and planning has gone into this decision.

I'm a patient person. I don't need or necessarily want a 'name' or an ego. Not a combustible type that will demands millions more whilst spending erratically on marmite players.
We need someone who can harmonise and build a team and squad. Someone who is adaptable, who understands we need results and performances can wait.

Get it wrong and we are a titanic club.

If it's been in the works for a few days, they must have talked to Potter?

Apparently Moyes is our number 1 target and I'm not sure how I feel about that TBH. The last time I consistently enjoyed watching us play was under his tenure but I would normally say that you should never go back. I'm also pretty certain that he wouldn't have been TFG's ‘number 1 choice' if matters hadn't come to a head over the last week. Hopefully they know what they're doing. Being frank, it would make a fucking change.

I watched all our league games and we were without doubt getting worse each passing minute.

Players who clearly couldnt be arsed, don't care, are poor and not PL standard, not following any plan that they might have been instructed to follow, out of sorts with themselves and each other etc

I think, for whatever reason, he had lost the dressing room long ago (not that he has been here that long - just seems it)

No way back when that happens

Dyche is a saviour. Like it or not.

He has now gone down in history, stopping us from doing so.

His stats will be measured alongside other quality names like Allardyce, Benitez & Lampard in the Mike Walker book of Footballing Horrors at EFC.

Ultimately, Dyche was offered a poison chalice.

The club was / is in ruins thanks to the dead twat.

But he took it on.

With points deductions - twice !!!

A squad that had to play 100% every game, no mistakes coz there were no goals in it.

I maintain (to an opposing view of several wisened TW experts / veterans) that he was knee capped by DoF Thelwell. Incoming players being appalling in the majority, to an already threadbare (and kept threadbare) below standard squad. Considering Thelwell has written a book "Coaching The European 3-5-2", something his manager buddy was clueless in regards to both on the field and from Thelwells sainted texts, his acquisitions didnt back his own philosophy.

Nor that of a 4-5-1 hoof it and hope manager.

But that is all in the past.

Well Dyche is.

I didnt like his style of football.

However I will always hold a high regard for what he did in terms of keeping Everton from falling into the abyss. A place we permanently teeter upon the edge of.

Good luck wherever your journey takes you Sean

'Relieved of duties' will typically mean he's been paid whatever he was due under his contract. No 'mutual consent' here.

The Guardian also reporting that Dyche had told TFG that couldn't do any more with this team and TFG felt he had effectively quit doing the job.

Posted six days ago...

Moyes was pretty conservative in his tactics and selections. Dyche was just scared and tried to keep the score down.

I really hope we get a fresh face in. Moyes 12 years on is not the answer.

A crazy list. Chalk and cheese.
Play, don't play. No consistency. No best fit.
Too attacking, too defensive or just WRONG!

Through it all, player recruitment has been generally terrible and overly expensive.

Fix that and we improve every next managers chances.

I hope the incoming manager is not a playout from the back coach. Not the time when money is a constraint. Just maintain the good defensive structure, work on the 2nd ball and set-pieces tactics. The xG should turn into goals. I wish.

However, I am concerned that we have sacked a manager seemingly with no-one else lined up. Perhaps they will surprise us tomorrow with an appointment we can all get excited about.

However, if Moyes is really under consideration, it’s a massive red flag for me.

Do you think that will fit on banner for his first game?

A ridiculous and divisive hire if it goes ahead.

He led us through the most difficult period in the club's history on and off the field, when we faced bankruptcy unless we were sold.

Absent owner, board resigned, 2 PSR points deductions, all saleable assets in the squad sold, he was the sole voice of the club in the storm when everyone else had left the building. The performances were efficient in 2023/24, but unacceptable this season with a stronger squad.

I genuinely don't think we would still be in the premiership today, and therefore a going concern financially, without him. Good luck to him and his team.

Failing to acknowledge that Dyche (and Pickford) kept us in the Premier League 2 season ago, and Dyche did a very good job last season even after the outrageous points deduction.

A simple thank you for your service and well wishes for the future should have been included.

I certainly wish him well.

Time to move on, hopefully to better things.