Season › 2024-25 › News Everton publish Annual Report & Accounts for 2023-24 Michael Kenrick 30/03/2025 106comments | Jump to last Everton have published the Annual Report & Accounts for the 2023-24 season, recording a £14.7M increase in turnover to £186.9M, and posting a loss of £53.2M for the financial year. The results for the period ending 30 June 2024 show a reduction in reported losses, down from £89.1M in 2022-23. Together with the 2012-22, when losses were £38.3M, this would put Everton's total losses for the latest PSR calculation at £180.6M. However, allowable losses must be subtracted from that number before it can be compared with the PSR threshold of £105M for the last 3 years. Back in January, the Premier League said it would not be charging any clubs for PSR breaches in the 3 years up to and including 2023-24 after all were deemed financially compliant following the submission of accounts before the end of December 2024. The club’s total wage-to-turnover ratio has decreased from 92% in 2022-23 to 84% in 2023-24, while capital costs expended on the new Everton Stadium totalled £312.7M. More analysis from Paul Quinn Reader Comments (106) Note: the following content is not moderated or vetted by the site owners at the time of submission. Comments are the responsibility of the poster. Disclaimer () Paul Hewitt 1 Posted 31/03/2025 at 14:08:19 I see Everton have lost another £54M over the last 12 months. Stephen Davies 2 Posted 31/03/2025 at 14:12:47 2024 Financial statements released. Stephen Davies 3 Posted 31/03/2025 at 14:15:07 Sorry forgot to add £53.2M loss, including £48.5M profit on player trading. Michael Kenrick 4 Posted 31/03/2025 at 14:24:06 Not quite accurate, Paul.£53.2M over the first 12 months of the last 21 months! Brian Williams 5 Posted 31/03/2025 at 14:28:06 Paul,That's right. Managed to bring it down from £89m from the preceding year. Rob Halligan 6 Posted 31/03/2025 at 14:30:32 So were £35M up then, Brian!!! Brian Williams 7 Posted 31/03/2025 at 14:32:54 We're making headway Rob. Bearing in mind only four clubs were profitable in 22-23.The shite lost £45m! Paul Hewitt 8 Posted 31/03/2025 at 14:34:14 Rob. It's not my fault. I've not spent the bloody money.:) Christy Ring 9 Posted 31/03/2025 at 14:53:47 The new owners, new stadium and the new financial year will mean, for once well be able to spend this summer, and bring in players wholl improve the squad. Brian Williams 10 Posted 31/03/2025 at 15:03:25 Correction to details in my post.The Red Shite actually lost £57M. Paul Hewitt 11 Posted 31/03/2025 at 15:47:42 Hopefully TFG would have known when buying the club, a loss was inevitable. Brian Wilkinson 12 Posted 31/03/2025 at 15:58:52 Do what Man Utd did with Jim Ratcliffe, blame it on the previous owner. They were happy to write it off to get round any debt over the threshold. Rob Halligan 13 Posted 31/03/2025 at 16:25:40 Brian: If you're talking about the loss, then the BBC already have an article on their website. Like flies round fucking shit! Jerome Shields 14 Posted 31/03/2025 at 17:35:04 BBC News: £53M loses, Financial year 23-24. £36 million less than the previous financial year. Over the last 3 years, over £187M in losses.At least it is not an increase on the previous year. Moyes may find it is lucky he can absorb a points deduction, but his comfortable position will go. Brian Williams 15 Posted 31/03/2025 at 17:54:41 Jerome.What points deduction? Michael Kenrick 16 Posted 31/03/2025 at 17:57:00 Brian, Just Jerome talking utter shite, as usual. As it says above, and repeated in bold:Back in January, the Premier League said it would not be charging any clubs for PSR breaches in the 3 years up to and including 2023-24 after all were deemed financially compliant following the submission of accounts before the end of December 2024. Mike Gaynes 17 Posted 31/03/2025 at 18:08:10 Important to emphasize again that this is a historical view from three quarters ago, fascinating but very outdated under the circumstances of our new ownership and stadium completion. The 10% reduction in overall staff is not uncommon in failing companies, and it's not hard to imagine that it accelerated in the following 6 months until TFG took over. That trend might quickly reverse as TFG gear up operations and the new CEO assumes command. One particularly ancient number is the net book value of the stadium. £700M? Gotta be far higher now that it's done and in operation. Brian Williams 18 Posted 31/03/2025 at 18:11:35 Michael 14.Thanks. That's what I understood, and it was repeated in today's reports. Danny O'Neill 19 Posted 31/03/2025 at 18:12:24 I think the term is "efficiencies" and it's not just failing companies, Mike. Technology, outsourcing services and creating a leaner but still effective work force is normal business. Hidden language for "do more with less".Keeping this simple, does this mean we are okay? Michael Kenrick 20 Posted 31/03/2025 at 18:25:49 Hi Danny,I haven't read the small print but I would be a bit surprised if the Auditor's Report comes up with that bit like last time, expressing doubt about the club as a 'going concern'.Actually, here it is from this set of accounts:In ensuring that the Group has sufficient liquid resources to meet its liabilities as they fall due the Directors have reviewed in detail the business' cash flow projections. As disclosed in note 1c, the Group's trading projections show that it has a reasonable expectation of staying within its currently available, and future anticipated, finance facilities for at least 12 months from the date of signing of these accounts. In preparing these trading projections, a number of additional inherent uncertainties have been identified; notably on-field performance and the resultant reduction in the Premier League domestic broadcasting merit award payment and the level of player trading.The Directors have considered other inherent uncertainties and, in the event that they would be required, have identified a number of potential mitigating actions to manage any resulting forecast shortfall against current facilities including the ability within the industry to securitise additional future guaranteed revenues and flexibility around player trading. Based on the mitigating actions referred to above, as well as the financial support of Roundhouse Capital Holdings Limited (UK), a company ultimately controlled by Dan Friedkin, the Directors have a reasonable expectation that the Group will have adequate resources to continue in operational existence for the foreseeable future. Accordingly, they adopt the going concern basis in preparing the Annual Report and Accounts. Michael Kenrick 21 Posted 31/03/2025 at 18:28:38 Actually, that's the bit the club wrote. Here's what the Auditor's Report says:Based on the work we have performed, we have not identified any material uncertainties relating to events or conditions that, individually or collectively, may cast significant doubt on the group's ability to continue as a going concern for a period of at least twelve months from when the financial statements are authorised for issue. Mike Gaynes 22 Posted 31/03/2025 at 18:42:40 Danny, I've assumed we were "okay" and then some from the moment TFG committed to buy us. From Toyotas to movies to golf courses to luxury resorts to ranchland to AS Roma, Dan Friedkin has generated nothing but successful investment results. His fortune has more than doubled since 2020. The man has never failed at anything. So yeah, I'd say we're good. The reason I speculate that TFG will increase their labor force is that in a public-facing operation like a football club, nothing generates more ROI than marketing. Friedkin's entire life has been sales, whether it be cars or movie tickets or $1000 hotel rooms. An expanded Everton marketing operation should produce some serious revenues. Ian Wilkins 23 Posted 31/03/2025 at 18:47:48 This is the last of the old world Moshiri era Financial Accounts. It still reflects some pain, positive net player trading, high levels of expensive debt. But there are some positives (wage bill % of turnover falling, and most importantly the Accounts are not qualified by the Auditors as a ‘Going Concern' risk). It's what has happened since that is important. The restructuring of our debt to sensible commercial rates, so reducing interest payments. The completion of the stadium. The move towards better commercial revenues (kit deal etc).Everton Football Club is on a far far better financial footing. Best it's been in a long while and hopefully only going to get better now that it is professionally run. Whilst I'm not expecting a massive player trading splurge this Summer, I am expecting the brakes to come off a bit post June 2025 (as we enter the 2025-26 Financial Year). Plenty of reasons to be positive. Danny O'Neill 24 Posted 31/03/2025 at 18:50:55 Which has been absent for way too long, Mike.Our marketing was more like a stall on Garston Market rather than putting us on the global footballing map. I don't know if it's still the case, as I haven't used it for years, but we couldn't even stretch as far away as selling our name and merchandise at our own airport. Mike Gaynes 25 Posted 31/03/2025 at 19:08:07 I understand, Danny. I've been complaining for decades that I've never walked into a soccer gear store anywhere in the US and seen Everton kit on the rack. The best thing about having Yank owners who know marketing is that I now have actual hopes of that happening. John Chambers 26 Posted 31/03/2025 at 19:19:34 Christy, I can't agree with your optimism I'm afraid. We will still have to ensure we comply with PSR for the year ending 30 June this year, and also next year.No clubs actually publish their PSR numbers so I've no idea how close to the £105M allowable 3-year losses we were. The actual losses were £38M in 21-22, £89M in 22-23 and the £53M in 23-24 — totalling £180M!What worries me is how much headroom, if any, we have to the end of June for this financial year. The losses in 22-23 and 23-24 already total £142M, well over the £105M allowed, so unless this year is a massive turnaround I am still more worried about sales we may have to make to comply with PSR before the end of June. Hopefully this will be the last year of real PSR pressure but as it is still in place for next season, I can't see a massive summer of buying.Shows what a financial mess Moshiri left the club in!! Mark Murphy 27 Posted 31/03/2025 at 19:43:22 DOH!I just got it!The EskPaul QuinnQuinn the Eskimo!Doh I'm slow!UTFT Paul Ferry 28 Posted 31/03/2025 at 19:49:47 Danny (24): I didn't even know that Garston had a market. There's some really poor marketing going on.Mike Gaynes (25): the last time you posted that never seen a shirt stuff (and you have done so more than a few times) a few of us posted to say that we have. I listed around eight places where I have seen our stuff on sale and the actual figure is higher. There is also something called Amazon.com.It might be more accurate next time to say "Unlike some others on here, I have never seen an Everton shirt on sale in a shop in 'merica." Liam Mogan 29 Posted 31/03/2025 at 19:53:10 Garston has a really good market, Paul, my mum shops there. Only place she can still get Cyprus Potatoes.With good marketing 'Garston – the People's Market' could really take off, so even northenders became aware of it. Danny O'Neill 30 Posted 31/03/2025 at 20:02:35 It did, or does Paul. Much to my discontent, my mother and aunties used to drag me around it. Part indoor, part outside from memory. It was on the left on the approach to Garston station and what is now Liverpool South Parkway.Cyprus Potatoes Liam. Another place I lived for a couple of years and yes, there is something about them!! Ian Bennett 31 Posted 31/03/2025 at 20:02:43 Trading loss last season was £28M ahead of player trading. I'd expect that to have narrowed, but any material gains were probably given up with the sacking of Dyche and team.Onana was sold for £50M from a book value of £18M (3/5ths of the £30M paid), so there's £32M trading gain. This seems to be the case with trading losses being offset by gains on player trading (excluding amortisation). Maupay will be a small book profit as his book value will be less than the £4.6M trigger.The amortisation charge will be the key bit towards PSR. It was £65M last year, but I'd expect that to narrow with the lower recent spend to the relative folly of Moshiri's recklessness.I'd suggest we probably don't need to sell Branthwaite to hit the numbers by 30 June, but you could see a need to move on a player with a value in excess of their book cost. I'd estimate the following book values at 30 June 2025:- Beto £12.5M, Mykolenko £5M, Patterson £4M, McNeil £6M, Garner £3-4M, And any of those could be sold to help achieve PSR. objectives. Peter Mills 32 Posted 31/03/2025 at 20:48:27 I'm not great on finance; Does anyone have any thoughts on how Trump-imposed tariffs will impact a company that imports Japanese cars to sell to US citizens? Paul Hewitt 33 Posted 31/03/2025 at 20:51:16 Mike @17. I hardly see the point of the value of the stadium now. It's not like we're ever going to sell it. So any value is worthless. Sean Kearns 34 Posted 31/03/2025 at 20:54:33 Toyotas are built in America, they aren't imported, lol. Paul Ferry 35 Posted 31/03/2025 at 20:54:58 Nor am I, Peter, but I know enough from Radio 4 and CNN to know that costs and prices will soar as the cars are going into the States and are not built there and all its parts are not from there. I assume you mean one-to-one sales but that might mean double slaps from tariffs and import duties.I would not assume that the tariffs will be imposed on 'Liberation Day' Peter (though the unions support tariffs) as Trump has backed down before. And if they are, they might not last for long when Trump's base sees the impact on imported fresh produce (and cars). Mind you, Trump's base might not be the most obvious buyers of fresh fruit and vegetables, but they like their trucks. Kunal Desai 36 Posted 31/03/2025 at 21:10:33 It will be a cautious approach to any spending in the summer transfer market. Charly Alcaraz along with perhaps another two players of similar fees to go into the first team and the rest will most likely be loans and frees perhaps. I'm thinking it'll be the following season when we really do have a bit of muscle in spending a bit due to increased commercial activities such as possible naming rights of the stadium, matchday revenue and shirt sponsorship. Ryan Holroyd 37 Posted 31/03/2025 at 21:53:09 Amadou Onana sale will be in this year's account and not the ones we've just seen. I think that's right. Can anyone please confirm? Mike Gaynes 38 Posted 31/03/2025 at 21:56:30 Pete #32, our new owner is a co-founder and major donor of a political lobbying organization dedicated to opposing automotive tariffs. Friedkin knows it'll be devastating to his business. His dealerships will have to raise prices sharply to cover the costs of the tariffs -- cars are a low-margin business -- and that will instantly drive down new-car sales. That's across the board, because even US-built cars are dependent on foreign-made parts and technology. Ian Bennett 39 Posted 31/03/2025 at 22:00:29 Correct, Ryan. We should see a gain of around £32M on Onana. £50M less his book cost being £18M (3/5ths x £30M we originally paid). Might be a bit less with some sell-on profit, but probably offset with other bits and bobs picked up on prior sales. Mike Gaynes 40 Posted 31/03/2025 at 22:04:56 PH #33, if you own a house, don't you track its value? Of course it will be sold someday to new owners, and the rising value of both the facility itself and its impending revenue generation deliver crucial enterprise net worth.Worthless? Not hardly. Brendan McLaughlin 41 Posted 31/03/2025 at 22:18:54 Yes, Ryan #37.That's correct. Mike Allison 42 Posted 31/03/2025 at 22:19:25 Does this headline loss figure contain anything related to the stadium or does it all count in PSR? Brendan McLaughlin 43 Posted 31/03/2025 at 22:54:25 Mike #42,The headline figure contains expenditure on ladies and youth football so these will have to be deducted to arrive at the PSR number.I wouldn't expect the headline figure to contain any expenditure related to the new stadium. Jerome Shields 44 Posted 31/03/2025 at 23:27:51 Michael #16Not Shite. It just means that when allowable costs are taken into accounts, which they have not been done in these figures, that Everton are closer to being compliant. Though it is a large amount of allowable expenses if correct. I was going by an earlier BBC report. Glad if it is the case that points are not deducted.At the time in January, I interpreted that Everton had sorted out their previous issues with Premier League's decisions, and were not part of a blanket clearance for all Premier League Clubs as this article suggests. It is only now that figures are available and no final PSR calculations have been shown.It could be that TFG have come to a agree with the Premier League, which I always thought was a possibility, since they have put substantial monies into a Premier League club. Brian Wilkinson 45 Posted 01/04/2025 at 00:04:44 Let the Fredkins do a Jim Ratcliffe and get £35M wiped off.The Friedkins took over before the close of play for this seasons accounts.Sir Jim Ratcliffe's INEOS acquired a 25% stake in the club in February 2024, which was one of the mitigating factors. The club were given an allowance of around £35M related to the INEOS share sale. Eric Myles 46 Posted 01/04/2025 at 01:33:41 Ian #31, Isn't the value of players' future wage payments also included in the accounts? So that would make the 'profit' on Onana greater than just the difference between sale and book values?Paul H #33, the stadium is an asset so it's value will always be included in the accounts. Paul Kernot 47 Posted 01/04/2025 at 02:10:27 I read today that Chelsea have sold their ladies team to themselves in order to fudge PSR figures. Eric Myles 48 Posted 01/04/2025 at 03:25:28 Looking at The Esk's figures, it looks like Other Operating Costs fell by about £22M since Chairman Bill departed.Coincidence surely? Eric Myles 49 Posted 01/04/2025 at 03:27:55 Paul #47, all perfectly legal and above board, nothing to see here, according to Masters and Co.Now, if EFC were the first ones to do that, would it be looked at in the same way? Brendan McLaughlin 50 Posted 01/04/2025 at 06:23:12 Eric #46,I don't think wages are a factor when determining the profit or loss made on the sale of a player. Jack Convery 51 Posted 01/04/2025 at 06:46:03 The difference between a Garston Market Stall and EFC under Kenwright? Garton Market Stalls made a profit!3rd Term for Trump - aye in Prison, hopefully, sharing a cell with Vance, Netenyauh, Erdogan and his bessie, Putin. Colin Glassar 52 Posted 01/04/2025 at 07:31:36 Everton are set to announce Red Bull as our stadium's sponsor today. With Klopp involved in said organisation, BMD will probably be referred to by some wags as the Red Bullshit Stadium. Ian Bennett 53 Posted 01/04/2025 at 07:59:27 Eric 46 - the accounts for 2024-25 will not include Onana's wages, but they will be included in 2023-24. That's the only impact on the accounts I can see. He will get a cut of the transfer or some form of loyalty payment if he's not asked for a move, I'd think, which will reduce the profit. I'd not included Onana's wages as I expect that this is broadly a wash with wages coming in 2025 for O'Brien, Mangala, Lindstrøm, Broja, Ndiaye, offset by Onana, Godfrey, plus a small period for Iwobi, Gray, and Gbamin in 2024. They are probably lower per person, but we've more bodies to pay for. Danny O'Neill 54 Posted 01/04/2025 at 08:15:29 I hope that is just clickbait and pure speculation, Colin, although it would be a coup and they are already one of our official sponsor partners.But… Klopp and the lettering Red on the stadium? They would have to name it the Blue Bull stadium as part of a marketing twist. We've changed the colour of Heinz Ketchup to blue, so why not?!! Alan McGuffog 55 Posted 01/04/2025 at 08:56:01 Not the 1st of April already? Brendan McLaughlin 56 Posted 01/04/2025 at 09:06:32 Danny #54,The "Blue Bull" Stadium?Got some nagging doubts about that name. Can't for the life of me put my finger on it, however? Rob Halligan 57 Posted 01/04/2025 at 09:14:00 Nice try, Colin…But none of us are taken in by your AFJ! Colin Glassar 58 Posted 01/04/2025 at 09:18:57 You got me, Rob!! 😉 Danny O'Neill 59 Posted 01/04/2025 at 09:20:31 A bit close to the mark, Brendan. It would only take a spelling mistake and before you know it … Dave Abrahams 60 Posted 01/04/2025 at 09:25:06 Danny (59), You've ruined my bleedin' day just thinking about that spelling mistake! Ernie Baywood 62 Posted 01/04/2025 at 09:27:03 Paul #47 – some might criticise Chelsea for their creative accounting when it comes to PSR. Personally, I wonder how we managed to fall foul when the standards are so low.Our club seriously argued for more COVID, Gylfi's mental health, Ukraine, the fact our players are shit and worth less than they should be, and for interest on a loan that had a big sign on the front saying the opposite of what we claimed it was for. Oh and inflated advance sponsorship payments on a stadium that didn't yet exist.We needed a lawyer and an accountant. We got Bill's theatre and an accountant who couldn't account.Good on Chelsea. They're nowhere near as incompetent as our previous leadership. Colin Glassar 63 Posted 01/04/2025 at 09:54:39 If you think my April Fool's post was bad, check out what the shite are saying about turning Goodison into an RS mega store and car park. It's funny though, the bastards. James Hughes 64 Posted 01/04/2025 at 09:58:37 Danny, we didn't change the ketchup to blue. It is garlic aioli and to be a killjoy I am not happy about adding colourings to food unless they are natural, ie, saffron or cochineal. In the UK, while certain artificial food colorings, including some blue dyes, are approved for use, research suggests they may have a link to hyperactivity in some children, leading to warning labels on products containing them. Steve Brown 65 Posted 01/04/2025 at 10:02:33 On a factual note, it was good to see that Anfield has been added to the National Heritage List for England (NHLE) as a structure of historic interest.The new list also includes a rare intact Second World War radar station, a manor house with interiors spanning 500 years, and an Iron Age cave. Steve Brown 66 Posted 01/04/2025 at 10:13:17 Chelsea have complied with the Premier League's profitability and sustainability rules (PSR) through player sales by selling the women's team to the club's parent company. That isn't an April Fool's, even though it is an absolute joke. Brian Harrison 67 Posted 01/04/2025 at 10:24:38 Everton, along with many other Premier League clubs, are losing money, and even some of those include clubs who have had the benefit of European game money. Now normally, when any business loses money, it's because of a drop-off in customer sales, but most clubs are playing to nearly full houses every week. So the fact that many are losing money is because they are paying players well more than they can afford. I see in this post it's saying our costs have gone down from 92% although in this post it doesn't say what it has reduced to. While no Premier League club has gone into administration, a couple have been close; carry on paying out silly money to players, then it's inevitable that one will go into administration.I suppose the advantage Everton have is the new stadium will make a massive difference in the amount of matchday revenue, but it would be silly to think we could spend the same as clubs who regularly compete in the top European tournaments. Danny O'Neill 68 Posted 01/04/2025 at 10:26:57 Well, I didn't mean to offend, James. Garlic Aioli is a blend of garlic and olive oil. Both have natural health benefits, including reducing cholesterol amongst other things. Paul O'Neill 69 Posted 01/04/2025 at 11:00:34 There is an article on BBC Sport incorrectly stating that 777 Partners are the new owners of Everton. And a photo of that dodgy baseball cap-wearing chancer who ran them. That and inaccurately mis-naming Everton Stadium repeatedly as ‘Bramley Moore Dock Stadium' shows the indifference and laziness football journos have towards the club. James Hughes 70 Posted 01/04/2025 at 11:26:14 Danny #68, you didn't offend anyone mate. It was me just correcting and then me getting on my high-horse about food colourings. Colin Glassar 71 Posted 01/04/2025 at 11:32:24 Anyone else outraged by the cast of the new Beatles biopic? Two Londoners and two Irish lads playing the Fab Four. Couldn't they find even one Scouser for a part? At least old Etonians, Redmayne and Cumberbatch(?) aren't in it. Brian Wilkinson 72 Posted 01/04/2025 at 11:51:35 Colin, that does not surprise me, mate, could be worse — they had Hamish Patel as the main actor in the film Yesterday.I do not know if it has anything to do with the accents because The Beatles cartoon series by Al Brodax said the Americans would not understand the Liverpool accents, so got someone to do their voices. John's voice sounded like he had attended Eton and went fox hunting at weekends with the ho-rah Henry's was voiced by Paul Frees, who came from Chicago, yet the same film company got two scousers to do Paul's and Ringo's voices in the film Yellow Submarine, actors Paul Angeles and Geoffrey Hughes. Colin Glassar 73 Posted 01/04/2025 at 11:58:37 Brian, when I lived in the States, people said I sounded like John Lennon, which made me feel proud. You'd have thought they'd at least tried to fit Stephen Graham in there somewhere. But he's probably even too scouse for the Fab Four. Brian Wilkinson 74 Posted 01/04/2025 at 12:04:53 You can picture Stephen Graham playing a cheeky Young John Lennon. :-)That's a good claim to fame, Colin, should have said went same school, throw a bit of bullshit in, then said he liked Everton when he was younger but music got in the way, blag a few to get them into Everton.I messaged McCartney about opening the new stadium and got a reply saying he will get his production team onto it to see if it is possible. Colin Glassar 75 Posted 01/04/2025 at 12:13:57 McCartney doing the opening ceremony at the new stadium would bring us so much worldwide attention, it would be worth its weight in gold. I'd even invite Ringo despite his declared dislike of England and Liverpool in particular.We need to open the ground with a bang. Robert Tressell 76 Posted 01/04/2025 at 12:47:01 I am struggling to decipher all of this but to the extent I have the right end of the stick, it seems to me that: - the short to medium term focus of TFG will be on financial stability rather than footballing success; - the transfer kitty will be modest, which is problematic with so many (probable) departures from an already small, weak squad; - we don't "need" to sell Branthwaite for PSR / solvency reasons – but we might have to in order to fund new signings;It doesn't sound especially thrilling this, but it is a huge step forward from where we were under Moshiri – with the real risk of relegation, insolvency, and years of obscurity in the lower leagues. We also have a sensible if unspectacular manager who probably operates most effectively with a small budget, small squad and limited players. I hope we don't regret Thelwell's departure – so I'll be interested in what (if any) recruitment we do at age 15 to 18 this summer and other plans for the future. Brian Harrison 77 Posted 01/04/2025 at 13:08:11 Robert @76,While it might be unpalatable to us fans, unless we cut our cloth accordingly to start with, then it's difficult to see how we ever get to challenge for honours. Let's not forget: Aston Villa were in the Championship not so long ago… and look where they are now. Bournemouth and Brighton are challenging for European places — both with small fan bases compared to Everton. But these clubs bought well and appointed good managers.The problem is us fans don't want success tomorrow and some of my age may be lucky to see us win another trophy. The big advantage we have is the new ground which, with the revenue it produces, should help us to get where we want to be that much quicker.I attended the first test event and the stadium is something special. I noticed the bars to allow rail safe standing to be used, which the Premier League have agreed to. I think using the rail seats will increase our attendance to 62,000, so does anyone know is there much work involved in making the designated areas into safe-standing? Also, I imagine the derby games and those against the top teams would make the use of safe standing something we should do. Although I haven't heard any plans for when Everton will use them. Mike Hayes 78 Posted 01/04/2025 at 13:09:09 Found the Arteta money at last!Good news, let's hope we've got money to spend in this summer window.Oh and 3 points tomorrow won't go amiss COYB UTFT Paul O'Neill 79 Posted 01/04/2025 at 13:20:11 I thought Hamish Patel was excellent in Yesterday. That was about a fan in an alternate universe, who was a struggling musician. The fact he wasn't a white scouser was irrelevant. It was a good film but it promised to be a great one. So many ideas they could have used — and they underused the brilliant Sarah Lancashire. Robert Tressell 80 Posted 01/04/2025 at 13:32:45 Agree to some extent, Brian # 77, although Villa, Bournemouth and Brighton haven't just spent well – they have all outspent us by hundreds of millions of pounds too. Like us, some of their signings have failed – but the level of spending has allowed them to improve regardless. The main reason why Villa are in the last 16 of the Champions League and we're in the bottom half is the amount of spending. Brian Williams 81 Posted 01/04/2025 at 14:01:39 Brian#77There's nothing required to turn the rail seating areas into safe standing. That's the idea. Keith Dolan 82 Posted 01/04/2025 at 14:34:03 Brian #77, As far as I understand it, the stadium is equipped to have a greater capacity using safe standing (eg, up to 62k). But it requires more than one person per seat space and the Premier League rules don't currently allow that. For example, to get to a higher capacity in future, the rules would need to allow 1.5 persons per seat in the lower tier of the new South Stand. Paul Tran 83 Posted 01/04/2025 at 14:34:27 'American built' cars are full of parts sourced from all over the world, which will be subject to tariffs, unless the President changes his mind.And Chelsea have already sold their stadium hotel to themselves to 'comply' with PSR, so the 'repositioning' of their WSL team doesn't surprise me.I'm looking forward to the outrage when Brexit Jim gets taxpayers' money to build Man Utd's new stadium. Colin Glassar 84 Posted 01/04/2025 at 14:46:19 Will these stands in BMD be given new names? I can't imagine we'll be taking Bullens Road and Gwladys Street with us. The Howard Kendall stand is fine but the other three sides will need to be named. Or has this already been decided? The Holy Trinity Stand would be my choice. Danny O'Neill 85 Posted 01/04/2025 at 14:49:24 I won't repeat myself, Colin, as I've said my preferences many times. No former players, managers or board members for me. Tony Cunningham 86 Posted 01/04/2025 at 15:00:42 I don't mind player names being used but definitely no board members ever. That's just a vanity project. I also think geographical references should be used. The Nelson Dock End or the Mersey Stand would help identify where in the ground those stands are a la Goodison and also create a link to the new place.Brighton still haven't named their stands other than North, South, East and West which seems bizarre. Good names help create an identity but maybe Brighton don't have anyone worthy of a whole stand being named after them. Danny O'Neill 87 Posted 01/04/2025 at 15:09:28 It will always be personal opinion, Tony.I just think if we name them after past players, then that's it. What happens if the next Kevin Sheedy, Alex Young, or Alan Ball comes along?I'd personally leave players names to the corporate lounges and suites.I'd rather see references to our historical heritage if we do name them. Tony Cunningham 88 Posted 01/04/2025 at 15:20:02 That's a good point. I'd say limit it to dead players but even then there will continue to be additions so maybe not... But maybe Dixie can be an exception! Paul O'Neill 89 Posted 01/04/2025 at 15:31:39 Us O'Neills are as one on this one, Danny. I think naming stands after people, or, God forbid, sponsors, is at best cheesy, and at worst, parochial. At the moment, I am fine with North, South, East and West. Lounges, fine. But if we start giving them names it looks forced. It's like the name of the stadium. Some (forgive me chaps and ladies) awful suggestions have come up on here. Everton Stadium is fine for now, Bramley-Moore seems to have naturally become popular (although historically he was an erm, interesting man!) and we will have to put up with a sponsor. But even the Friedkin Everton Stadium would be preferable to some unbearably saccharine moniker like ‘The People's Stadium', in my view. If it happened naturally I would like Dock End, Regent Road Stand, and River Stand though. Although probably best the North Stand stays as it is rather than the ‘Sewage Works End'. Paul Hewitt 90 Posted 01/04/2025 at 15:46:18 I also don't like stands being named after players. But the Howard Kendall stand is a must. Dennis Stevens 91 Posted 01/04/2025 at 16:02:54 Sponsors names are only in place temporarily, so may not have to be suffered for too long — before a worse one replaces them! Brian Williams 92 Posted 01/04/2025 at 16:03:44 The thing about naming stands after "people" is that the more time that passes the less those "people" are relevant to all but Evertonians. Colin Glassar 93 Posted 01/04/2025 at 16:07:13 So who will choose the names of the stands? The board? Fan survey? Friedkin? I like Paul's @89 suggestions… Ray Roche 94 Posted 01/04/2025 at 16:37:23 I wouldn't mind our South Stand being called the Gwladys End though. Mike Gaynes 95 Posted 01/04/2025 at 16:47:10 Mike #78, hope they were careful. That ring-fencing must have been pretty rusty by now! Danny O'Neill 96 Posted 01/04/2025 at 16:57:47 I think the supporters should be consulted. Maybe one for the FAB? Brian Harrison 97 Posted 01/04/2025 at 17:06:51 Keith 82The Government carried out trials for safe standing in 2021/22 and it was approved. About 80% of Premier league clubs have safe standing installed but as yet no have been put into operation. Maybe they are waiting for a regulatory body to finally give it the go ahead, but seems madness for most of the Premier League to install them without using them. I am sure someone on T/W will know why they aren't being used. Anthony Dove 98 Posted 01/04/2025 at 17:43:30 Tony@86 youve overlooked Maupay. Agree with no peoples names. Also can we please leave the Peoples clubat Goodison. Ryan Holroyd 99 Posted 01/04/2025 at 17:58:43 Brian 97 – what are you talking about? You say safe standing isn't being used in the Premier League. It's at Man Utd, Spurs and will be at Everton next season – to name three teams. Sean Kelly 100 Posted 01/04/2025 at 18:52:35 Jack #51, I'd put the car salesman in there with those cretins aswell. Paul Ferry 101 Posted 01/04/2025 at 19:18:38 Brian Wilkinson (72): “ … sounded like he had attended Eton and went fox hunting at weekends with the ho-rah Henry's”.That would be our own Sam Hoare, Brian. Paul Weller wrote a song about him. Sam has spent enough time on here to be a Beatle. John Chambers 102 Posted 01/04/2025 at 19:36:54 Brian, as Ryan says, safe standing is already in place at a number of grounds, including the Everton Stadium. The “issue” at the moment is in the Premier League it is only allowed on a 1:1 basis, ie, only one person can stand for each seat, so there is no increase in capacity.Typically in Germany, it is nearer 2:1. We might not get to that level but an increase of this ratio is what would need to change to increase stadium capacity. Ernie Baywood 103 Posted 01/04/2025 at 22:16:33 Much prefer the idea of geographical references for stands. And allow the stands and the stadium to create its own history.The connection between Regent Rd and Royal Blue seem like a match... someone smarter than me can figure it out.It was wonderful that we honoured our greatest ever manager at Goodison. But this stadium might stand for, what 50+ years? Things might be very different in another 10 or 20.Statues, 'walks', lounges. Yeah, name away. George Stuart 104 Posted 02/04/2025 at 02:00:18 Well that all just spun my head.I'm well down with a William Ralph Dean stand. His legend WILL last forever.Chelsea's creative accounting bamboozled me but I do note they recently spent around £100million on two players. A nice self-present there. Can we sell ourselves the ladies team ?£100million seems a nice round figure. Eric Myles 105 Posted 02/04/2025 at 02:42:16 Paul #79, agree about "Yesterday" I'm not a fan of a rom-com, and I can give The Beatles a miss but I thought the idea and execution was brilliant. Eric Myles 106 Posted 02/04/2025 at 02:57:31 Brendan #50, I believe player wages are booked under future liabilities in accounts.So with that 'cost' coming out it translates to 'profit'?Maybe one of our financial guys can explain if that's correct.I'm basing this on the transfer of Robinho to Milan per Swiss Ramble's account"He was bought for £32.5 million in September 2008 on a four-year contract, so annual amortisation was £8.1 million. He was sold after two years, so cumulative amortisation was £16.2 million, leaving a value of £16.3m in the books. Sale price to Milan is reported as £18 million, so City will report a profit on sale of £1.7 million in the 2010/11 accounts. Therefore, City will show an annual profit improvement of £18.1 million after this deal: £8.3 million lower wages + £8.1 million lower amortisation + £1.7 million profit on sale.” Eric Myles 107 Posted 02/04/2025 at 03:02:43 Brian #77 "does anyone know is there much work involved in making the designated areas into safe-standing?"Unlock the seat, raise the seat, lock seat into upright position. Add Your Comments In order to post a comment, you need to be logged in as a registered user of the site. » Log in now Or Sign up as a ToffeeWeb Member — it's free, takes just a few minutes and will allow you to post your comments on articles and Talking Points submissions across the site. How to get rid of these ads and support TW © ToffeeWeb