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David Moyes has hinted at the possibility of adopting a new strategy if Everton’s strikers continue to misfire. Both Beto and Thierno Barry have had a torrid season so far and have scored just one goal combined in between them.

Beto has struggled to recapture his form from the second half of last season, when he scored seven goals since Moyes’s return in January. He’s had just one goal in nine matches so far this season and has also been guilty of missing several gilt-edged chances.

Summer signing Thierno Barry, meanwhile, has found it difficult to get off the mark. After signing from Villarreal for £27 million, the U21 French international is yet to score his first goal in a royal blue shirt in nine appearances, two of which he started.

As a result of the strikers’ profligacy in front of goal, Everton are underperforming their expected goals metric and the goals are starting to dry up for the Toffees despite the creative presence of Iliman Ndiaye and Jack Grealish.

Asked about his strikers in the pre-match press conference before facing Sunderland, Moyes said, “Obviously we want our centre-forwards to score more goals.

“Whatever we say, we are making more chances, we’re having much more of the ball than we’ve had, we’re being more creative in what we’re doing, so this is where you’re hoping we make a few more chances and the forwards get it.

“In the couple of games recently we’ve not quite got on the end of two or three things which on another day we do and it changes the outcome, changes the mood.

“It’s very difficult for anybody, footballers can lose confidence when their form isn’t so good – it could be a centre-forward, it could be a centre-half or goalkeepers – they all need to have confidence to play well.

“But centre-forwards are the ones that thrive on the feeling of getting the goals. So, all you can ever do is keep putting them in the right positions and hopefully they’ll get the goals.

“We also have to get plenty of balls in to give them those chances to do so.”

There has been speculation about Ndiaye possibly being moved to the centre to lift Everton’s offensive output. The Senegalese was the top scorer for Everton with 11 goals last season and has changed flanks seamlessly during this campaign. He’s been the most consistent player for the Blues after moving to the right wing.

Asked whether he could move centrally, Moyes replied, “I will look to see if there are other options and if I think I’m not getting what I want, I’ll look to see what else there is. We’ve got two people who are number nines or that way.

“Ili, you mentioned, gives you less of a focal point and changes how you may have to play and build at different times if you do that.

“We’ve got one or two other people who could possibly come into that debate as well but we won’t bury our head in the sand, we’re certainly thinking about it.”

 

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Mike Powell
1 Posted 01/11/2025 at 14:23:24
Well, change it Monday night.

No use sticking with the same team and tactics, it's not working... try something different!

Steve Brown
2 Posted 01/11/2025 at 14:34:30
He’ll have a good, long, careful and slow think about it over the next 2 months.
Kieran Kinsella
3 Posted 01/11/2025 at 14:43:49
So he's finally realized we have an issue...
Jack Convery
4 Posted 01/11/2025 at 16:41:37
Ah, the Moyesiah has spoken...

But will he act?

Robert Tressell
5 Posted 01/11/2025 at 17:45:05
Moyes was great last season - came in and cheered everyone up. Surprisingly good results with a poor team. We started to develop a footballing style and you could see how we might kick on with better players.

He has not really carried that into the new season despite having a weirdly assembled but still decent squad.

Too right he should be thinking about changing things. There are options. And there are options from the bench too.

In Branthwaite's absence, he has to get O'Brien into the centre-back position -- either in a back four or a back three.

Our slow, narrow play has become too predictable and too easy to defend. Hopefully there is a change against Sunderland.

Hopefully Nathan Patterson has been training his arse off this week. Now would be a good time to prove he's got something to offer.

Martin Farrington
6 Posted 01/11/2025 at 17:54:44
The broken record continues to play. The pathetic nay ridiculous dealings in the transfer market that forever curse us, as expectant fans, was again replayed in the summer.

We are told decade after decade that they are sourcing caviar, yet they serve us up frogspawn, believing we are that stupid we can't see the difference.

Moyes has no right to whinge. He was in charge of who came in. He failed to buy strikers, fullbacks and pace. So far, no one has put their name to the mainly dreadful purchases. Jack aside, we have again squandered the little wiggle room we had after years of being spendthrift due to sickening criminal mis management.

To Monday night: Moyes has a natural goalscorer in the team, but like the rasping dinosaur that was his predecessor, he ignores the obvious. Every Evertonian knows who it is. Is Moyes truly oblivious or just bloody-minded?

The guy never changes formation or mixes it up. Like a clairvoyant's dream, he is more predictable than sunrise.
Hence his appalling record against bigger teams.

Monday will be no different.

Billy Shears
7 Posted 01/11/2025 at 18:21:04
Moyes is our main problem, I believe, but some Blues just don't see it, sadly.

The starting line-up will tell me everything an hour before Monday night's kick-off!

Mark Murphy
8 Posted 01/11/2025 at 18:41:08
And yet you've already written us off 0-2 Billy?

48 hours before kick-off... Why?

Andy Meighan
9 Posted 01/11/2025 at 18:47:42
Reading between the lines there with Moyes, it seems its more of the same on Monday night.

So expect the drought to continue, I’m going for a goalless draw.

Ian Bennett
10 Posted 01/11/2025 at 18:54:57
Yeah, sack Moyes and it's Champions League and titles all the way.

Crack on...

Mike Gaynes
11 Posted 01/11/2025 at 19:10:35
Martin #6, I must not be an Evertonian, because I have no idea who our "natural goalscorer" is, let alone why he's not on the pitch. I'm dying to know. Would you please enlighten me?

Would you also share how you know that, contrary to the club's public assertions, Moyes was entirely in charge of who came in? And why I'm in error in believing that we did in fact buy a striker and a fullback? And why you are already certain that Dewsbury-Hall, Röhl, Barry and Dibling are "dreadful"?

Thank you in advance.

Liam Mogan
12 Posted 01/11/2025 at 19:17:45
The "natural goalscorer' tease is a bit like a game of Guess Who:

'Does he have brown eyes?' Yes
'Does he have a moustache?' No
'Does he have a ponytail?' No
'Does he make us defend 20 yards behind the midfield?' Yes
'Does he have big ears/' No

Is it Michael Keane?

Kieran Kinsella
13 Posted 01/11/2025 at 19:18:15
Robert,

It's funny but how you accurately describe the lift Moyes gave us last season — I was just watching Forest v Utd. It reminded me of when Dyche first came here. Lots of purposeful forward movement, lots of good crosses, lots of goal scoring opportunities, an overall good performance and decent result.

But, what happens next? The early enthusiasm dips. Opponents realize how you're going to play. People stop focusing on how many chances you created and how few your average players converted. Then the stagnation and lack of Plan B sets in.

Kevin Molloy
14 Posted 01/11/2025 at 19:19:22
Everyone saying 'He's messing up. He's been shown up'.

We've got Michael Keane at centre back all season, that means the lowest of low blocks. We've also lost Doucoure, so no press. We've also lost Calvert-Lewin who was an adequate centre-forward.

We've spent a fair amount of money, but that was replacing high-quality free transfers. So the squad in the short term is probably worse than last season. Maybe next season we will see some of the kids bloom, but we need to show a little patience.

Mark Murphy
15 Posted 01/11/2025 at 19:27:54
I'm just going home from the RL game.

I was sat behind 4 guys who are in the management team at Finch Farm for the Academy and I asked them how it was going?

They said since the new owners have come in it's been galvanised and there's a lot of expectation and attention now on youth. I asked if Moyes was engaged and they said he's very much involved and pushing for results. He and Baines are constantly on the case and Moyes is “very much” behind the new positivity.

Mike Gaynes
17 Posted 01/11/2025 at 19:33:14
Excellent intelligence work, Agent Murph!

Stuart Sharp
19 Posted 01/11/2025 at 19:52:04
Moyes our main problem? Seriously? You're watching a different game to me. Funny how the anti-Moyes fans see what they want to see.

As for our natural born striker... is it Pickford? He's got a very good conversion rate of shots on target.

Andrew Clare
21 Posted 01/11/2025 at 21:07:27
It's absolutely guaranteed that there will be no changes in strategy or formation or tactics on Monday night.

Subs will be brought on with 5 minutes left and we will have no Plan B.

Martin Farrington
23 Posted 02/11/2025 at 09:52:20
Mike, you were outsmarted by Liam. Congrats, Liam, you win today's prize, a signed personal copy of the much maligned, misunderstood and missed Kevin Thelwell's strategic masterpiece:-Coaching the European 3-5-2

Popular at parties and bar mitzvahs. Not so popular at Everton, or was it?

Mike, my answers are:-
As stated in various pressers by our ex Dyche and indeed Moyes. They have each said he does it in training regularly and is a natural.

When you buy a player and don't play him because you then state that he isn't good enough, in my mind, that is a failure to buy a fullback.

In fact, said fullback is so angry with this situation that he wants to leave in January (according to popular press and serious rumours).

A striker. Just point me in the direction of that goalscorer please. A worse version of Beto surely wasn't the plan, but hey, it's Everton. So it was.

The last paragraph. We are a quarter of the way through the season. Looking at returns on investment. Playing time. Goals and wins. None have achieved anywhere near that. Apart from Dewsbury-Hall on playing time. Plus three not needed and pretty poor goalkeepers, I personally believe in we failed in the transfer window again.

As I stated, squandering money. As of now, at this moment, we are plummeting towards relegation (again)!!! Sunderland is going to be a vital match where 3 points are obligatory.
If not, things can go from bad to worse very very quickly.

If you believe I am incorrect, then we see things somewhat differently.

Mike Gaynes
24 Posted 03/11/2025 at 02:18:01
Martin, being outsmarted by Liam is a very familiar feeling. Happens all the time.

I'm not smart enough to understand your reference to a 20-year-old book about a formation not used at Everton.

I'm also not smart enough to understand why you would invent BS quotes by Moyes about Aznou, of whom he has never said anything resembling him not being good enough. Needing time and physical development? Yep. Not good enough? Not one word.

And the "popular press and serious rumours" about Aznou? One obscure website. One. Africa Foot, whatever that is. No quotes, no source, not even a byline on the article, which means it's an absolute lock to be clickbait.

(And just as an aside, even in the unlikely event it's true, who gives a rat's rump about a teenager allegedly pouting? He'll grow up and get over it.)

I am, however, definitely smart enough not to get into a deeper debate with somebody orbiting the Alien Planet Relegation. You wanna believe we're "plummeting", you go right ahead.

Martin Farrington
25 Posted 03/11/2025 at 12:04:59
Mike, yes he stated Aznou isn't ready. Then listed several reasons over a few weeks. I can't be arsed digging every thing out but for me when he says he is above U21 standard but not up to Premier League standard and it is going to take some time etc, then that means he isn't good enough to play. Will he ever be???

I hope he isn't another Nathan Patterson.

The book reference is a tongue-in-cheek joke.

We are now only 4 points above relegation, with no signs of improvement up front. Without scoring goals (yet again), we will not rise to loftier heights, in my opinion. If you believe this is incorrect, then perhaps you may be the starman.

Moyes doesn't tend to move from his rigid set-up. I hope he does tonight. I hope the front man, probably Beto, scores a bag full and midfield grab the game by the scruff of the neck. I hope our comedy defending v Spurs from set pieces was a one off.

My preferred line up tonight would be:

Pickford
Garner, O'Brien, Tarkowski, Mykolenko
Dibling, Röhl, Gueye, Grealish
Ndiaye, Keane.

Coz so far, the two Bs have been lousy. Charly Alcaraz isn't quite the ticket and Iroegbunam is at present looking like a poor Onana.
Yup. No chance of my line-up happening as long as Moyes has a hole in his arse. But I would back it to do something better than we have been doing.


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