It's time to secure Iliman Ndiaye's future

Rven though he has 3 years left on his contract, he's probably one of the lowest earners, and the club offering a better deal would be a massive incentive.

Know doubt a few "journalists " (or are they journeymen?) will try and make up fictious stories about the player moving to another club, like they did with Branthewaite moving to Utd-before he signed a 5 year deal with us !.

Everton have tied down our best players to 5 year deals and I am sure Ndiaye will follow suit.

We are no longer a "feeder" club to cover the inadequacies of other teams.

How the other side across the park would like the two players I have mentioned to cover their problems, which shows our recruitment has not been that shabby.

When you consider the crazy prices players are going for nowadays, such as Dibling for £35-40M, then £60M for Ndiaye would be a steal for whoever, and a giveaway from us.

For years, we have seemed to pay over the top for players and sold low. It's nice to now see us having players such as Ndiaye, Dewsbury-Hall, O'Brien, Branthwaite, Garner... even Iroegbunam, who I think we could make a decent profit on should we ever wish to sell.

That's gotta be fixed or he will want to leave for bigger opportunities.

What is the connection between a barrel maker, a bob and a trowel?

But it's obviously time to give the kid a much better deal now.

I can't wait to see what they reply.

Does he want to stay long term? He's moved around a bit, seems settled playing a key role. Or does he want to go and fight for a place at a Champions League club?

I'll tell you one thing: He won't be doing any laps of honour during a match with the whole stadium applauding him like during the Burnley game at any other club.

Sometimes you should know when you have a good thing!

Thelwell got a lot of stick, but he did do some good deals during his time, Ndiaye probably the best.

Makes you wonder how they can get it so right with Ndiaye, and not really any others since.

I'd hold fire and assuming we still want him to stay, make him an offer he can't refuse when he's in the last 12 months of his contract.

With 12 months on a contract he has us over a barrel and can leave for peanuts.

Right now, we can extend his contract to 5 years, giving him more attractive terms, or if he wants away, we play hard ball, like the Barcodes did with Isak, and get top money. That is the reality of the modern game.

Showing your best players that they are valued where they are is the only way to build and maintain a competitive squad. Deincentivising a top player by keeping his salary at less than half of others' will not cut it.

Offering him improved terms before it's a necessity, shows we appreciate what he brings.

If he knows other clubs are interested, a move could easily be manufactured if he wanted out or better terms and we are not offering... see Isak to the RS.

Similar to Branthwaite, show him we want him to stay!

Give him a call if that DoF position opens up.

I'll be happy if he is here when the transfer window shuts, and yes, on a new longer-term deal.

A later developer, he was playing at Hyde United at 20 on loan. Boreham Wood before signing for Sheffield United.

What a step up for the lad. Brilliant.

I understand the supply and demand aspect but that doesn't mean it's generally good for the clubs overall. Isn't the ideal in any workplace a ‘fair day's pay for a fair day's work' for all rather than actively creating schisms by allowing there to be ‘winners and losers' at every level within an organisation?

You agree a wage to do a job, presumably to the best of your ability, being a customary stipulation. Aren't these sort of things discussed during the initial negotiations? Isn't this why they have professionals negotiating for them?

It's this sort of lack of loyalty to agreed terms and honest dealing on both sides that reveals how self-centred people often are -- and that must alienate them at least a little bit from plenty of normal people.

No doubt I'm the weird one.

From the heart...

In the “real” world, you are spot on. Unfortunately, top-level sport, especially football, is greatly removed from the real world.

Nowadays, players are, in the vast majority of cases, overpaid, pampered spoilt brats.

Mind you, I say 'nowadays'... but even my heroes of long ago -- Collins, Young, Vernon etc, although far more normal and far closer to the support -- were also given “incentives”

I fully agree with your post; today's transfer fees and salaries of the top players are disgusting. However, this is the reality of the times we live in.

You are definitely not the weird one, John @17 mentions the difference in players wages and incentives from long ago, they were vastly different from today's unbelievable treatment of players. Once they were slaves; now, they run the clubs they play for and have minders keeping fans away from them in many cases.

John Moores was the chairman who asked for a fair day's work for a fair day's pay — that was one reason Johnnie Carey was removed from his job. John Moores thought he was too soft with the players and could have had them fitter with tougher training.

Today's fans are different as well because they have grown up in a different world than the one me and plenty of older fans grew up in. A gimme gimme greedy world rather than the £20 a week players received then.

Their pay was better than the average man's but they drank in the same pubs and drank the same ale as us -- not like the champagne Charlie's of today who talk of loyalty and how much they love the club and the fans — all my bleedin' arse in a lot of cases.

I think you and me, Si, are only weird if we expect them to be any different.

If we can hold on to him, it's a massive plus.

So this could drag on all summer with no resolution, and a disappointed player. He's been a good buy so far, let's hope he doesn't start demanding a transfer.

Playing on the right, he hasn't been as effective and he may not even like playing there. So, if we sign Grealish permanently, he might see his future elsewhere.

Besides that, though, he deserves a merit-based pay rise to reward his efforts. Nothing drastic, but something to show he's appreciated with the promise of a bumper contract extension next year if his form continues.

He will have agents in his ear saying, "Arsenal offering £100k a week, Man Utd £125k a week," all summer.

If we are not interested in letting him go, you have to sign him up to ward off the vultures.

It means nothing if he says he wants to go.

Just means we are in a good position to negotiate a good fee.
Already been around few clubs, so hopefully he's found his home.

If I offered you £500,000 a week to come work for me, you’d at it like a rat up a drain pipe.

But the size of the pay packet is not the point I’m making, which is that negotiated agreements have very little meaning if they don’t already encompass the rewards for exceeding expectations that the employee is happy with.

I’m very much for strong employee rights but the employers also deserve some guarantees as long as they are upfront in their negotiations, otherwise we are another step nearer anarchy.