Everton vs Manchester City: Player Ratings

I told you he has come in just before transfer deadline, no pre-season and never played in the Premier League. Yet you all rubbished him.

Well, he has played about a 1/3 of the game time that Calvert-Lewin has, who has been lauded on here, yet he's scored the same number of goals, 8 (if you don't count penalties).

Calvert-Lewin is 29... Barry is 23. I know who I want.

Appreciate captain hindsight, but the first was the warning. Should Pickford be beaten from that far out? I don't know.

What I do know is Donnarumma got beat like Pickford in the derby for the corner, and he is 6ft-7in. It seems that the quality of flat corners is killing keepers.

Do you mean the musician Pete Hooton? Apparently he's distantly related, though I've never met him.

Seems they are trying to punish themselves for cheating as the authorities refuse to do it…

A little bit peeved that 'All Together Now' became one of our songs, but my old mate, Keith Mullin from Waterloo, The Farm's bassist, is a proper blue and we used to go all over the country 1978-1983.

I havent seen enough of Rohl to know if he is a top class player or not, but I do know he is an athlete. The crowd were roaring him on because he just wanted to keep driving at the Man City defence. He wanted more goals and was full of running.

Moyes was having none of that. He wanted to hold on to what he had. He replaced him with Patterson (who he has steadfastly refused to give game time to).

The equaliser came when Patterson slipped at the crucial moment. I refuse to blame Patterson. The lad was thrown in stone cold because his cowardly manager thought he would defend the lead better than Rohl.

Yet again, our manager was seen to lack the courage to win.

Giving the guy who cost us a victory 3/10 is, IMO, very generous indeed.

A draw is a good result against them, but absolutely gutted we threw a 3-1 lead away.

A 3 was far too high a mark, lol!

I'm on a Merseyside Music committee with Keith now, 46 years after we went on the Special to Bristol City on vodka -- 1-0, Trevor Ross -- and Keith had his favoured little hammer in his kecks.

Murder outside the ground and it pissed down all day long in an open terrace but me and Keith were fine outside, you'll be pleased to know.

He's becoming a liability week by week, he even admitted himself that it was his fault for Haaland's goal.

When him and Keane are paired together, we look like we are going to concede, but Moyes won't change it now -- not a prayer.

I agree with your marks of Röhl and Iroegbunam, I thought the 2 of them were excellent and the energy from them was something else. Let's hope he keeps them in the side now. And let's not forget Röhl was playing out of position.

Big shout out to Mykolenko; I'm not his biggest fan but he was excellent last night.

Yes, sick at the end, but the positive thing is we could win these next 3 games if we stay focused and stop conceding goals at the death.

Yes, I've seen that on the Live Forum, and to say I was disappointed was an understatement.

No one had a great 1st half but the criticism of Röhl was shocking, anyway they all ate shit because the lad was excellent 2nd half, as was Iroegbunam.

I was disappointed obviously with the end but proud of that 2nd half performance, no one had seen that coming.

Moyes 3, need to have a long hard look at yourself Michael, poor that.

Use him as an outlet instead of Patterson as a 2nd full back which just pushed the team backwards towards our own goal.

He is the manager. In the last 3 games the team has gone to sleep, and allowed 3 late goals to be conceded.

The worst example was their 2nd goal last night. When you have just scored, you're at your most vulnerable, especially against a team like Man City.

Management is not just about tactics and fitness. Moyes obviously has not drilled into the team the absolute necessity to remain focused and alert, not to lose concentration, at all times -- or he is not capable of doing this...

It's Moyes's responsibility, and once it gets through to the players, we may see an improvement. But it will never happen with Moyes. He will never win any trophies, because he is a poor manager.

I am less forgiving of Doku's second though. Coming in from the left, and onto his stronger right, with his tail up after his first, we (Charly Alcaraz, who couldn't blame fatigue) should certainly have been on high alert, and denied him that space and blocked it.

On another note, shouldn't Kiernan Dewsbury-Hall be next season's skipper?

The final possession figures were 25% to 75% and I imagine for the first half that wouid have been more like 10% to 90%.

Being one down, Everton then start to play and we have a great second half of old-style football. Ndiaye cost us the game. I don't understand why he has played on the left since Grealish was injured.

I disagree with Michael's rating of Moyes. The old dinosaur was maybe worth 4.

Tarkowski wasn't even facing play when City kicked off and Haaland scored their second. Completely unprofessional.

He was enjoying a nice jog back to the goal when Brentford scored their first goal. Van Dijk outmuscled him to win the derby, and he was outjumped by Soucek for West Ham's first goal.

What does he have to do to get dropped? Put O'Brien at centre-back with Keane and play a right-back at right-back for the last 3 games of the season.

I thought the double up was working, to be honest, as frustrating as it is to watch.

I'd give him a higher mark but I can definitely understand your frustration because I've been like a scratched record moaning about David's reluctance to use more of the players in his squad on a more regular basis.

I wouldn't disagree with you about mental and physical conditioning holding equal weight, Paul, but they're both different things and if you broke it down and went into detail, then you will probably find that people who have got an inbuilt winning mentality will obviously cope with the pressure a lot better than the people who haven't.

Ian, Keane, was already on a yellow, so I'm not sure he could have taken one for the team, but last night took me back to my days at Forest because every time we scored a goal (I mean every single time), you would have Archie Gemmill standing on the sidelines, screaming at us to go and get the ball back off our opponents straight from the kick off. This stopped us from never switching off mentally!

On another Everton website, Röhl is running away as MotM with Tim second but well behind Röhl.

All the players got marks but very low, two of them got 0 — Keane and Alcaraz — mind you, Charly only came on in the 92nd minute so didn't have a lot of time to impress... although Patterson got 4 votes!

I voted for Röhl myself; I didn't think he would last the game but he got stronger as the game went on and only an injury can keep him out of the final three games.

I was thinking how good it was to see three young midfielders, all complementing each other that day.

Iroegbunam is a monster in the making for me. He could develop into the player we have been looking for over a long period of time. I would play him in the last 3 games.

But go back to the restart. You get 11 into shape, the width of the 18-yard box. Instead, it was 8, and they parted more than Moses and the Red Sea. Brain dead.

One straight ball like that, same as Wolves, just cannot happen. It just can't.

He had his back to it.

As Doku scored twice, maybe the doubling up could not be regarded as a resounding success.

However, I think Röhl is going to turn out to be an excellent buy, unlike the other recent recruits.

And it'll happen again.

Trouble is, you switched off about a year ago. Your gormlessness has cost this team time and time again.

Moyes has had numerous reasons -- and opportunities -- to drop Mr Last Ditch Tackle, but he hasn't taken any of them.

Age catches up with everyone, so I don't blame the player. I blame the twat who keeps picking him, no matter what.

Waiting patiently for MK to reassess the situation and do the right thing by docking Moyes another 2-3 marks.

I would have taken the draw before the game, but at 3-1 we should be closing the game out, regardless of the opposition.

I would have taken off our most impressive player, who, with O'Brien, had slowly but surely turned the tables on Doku and O'Reilly.

I would have put on a full-back (who I clearly don't rate) and expected him to get up to the high-octane speed the game was being played at in the 170 seconds that were left.

Then, I would have stood with a gormless look on my face as the stone-cold full-back (who I didn't rate) slipped and let Doku have a free strike to equalise.

Oh and then I'd stood in front of the TV cameras and blamed the players for me not having the courage to win the game.

Ask a stupid question.....

As regards the players, Jimmy Garner gave Doku the space to score a world class goal in the first half, Iliman Ndiaye should have scored a hat-trick or laid the ball off to better positioned players, and the flat-footed centre-back pairing in the absence of Jarrad Branthwaite got left for dead by one of the world's best strikers... and once again we were denied a blatant penalty.

Kudos to Rohl for showing what he is capable of and the team overall for a great second half performance.

The handball in the Leeds game was harsh but how many times has his “block” deflected it past Pickford? He slows the play down and my heart is in my mouth every time he looks to play it backwards.

He rarely threatens at the other end since that goal. Keane is more derided but often looks error-prone when paired with Tarkowski.

He's been a good signing but age is catching up with him. I would like to see Branthwaite and O'Brien as the main partnership with two proper fullbacks.

Contender for post of the day there. Bang on.

Even for 20 minutes?

Ahh, come on, Steve. Moyesie has definitely improved us.

You've got to wonder if he does see him able to slot in at right-back in the long run when needed. Impressed by his pace, his assist for Barry looked like a miss-hit shot though!

Poor Paterson, though, 90 seconds to impress and all he manages is to fall over in front of Doku, allowing him space to get the equaliser. Gutted for him but think that's the last time we see him for the Blues.

Just like Grealish, Dyche said they were trying to take him but the Financial Fair Play problems stopped that.

Move O'Brien in to the middle, replacing Tarkowski, and have Dibling at right-wing????

Alternatively. We could have got a similar one in Iraola.

He's made his club a £130M profit on transfers in and out this season. 4 points clear of us as well.

I take it from that response that you never advocated Frank as a replacement for Moyes. As they say, you place your bets and takes your chance. One never knows.

If and when we get Iraola, we will know if you were right.

We won't get him.

Keith Edwards? Spent less and also above us.

Spent well less than us and also above us.

Brighton and Bournemouth have spent double what we have over the last 5 years.

Where?

The last time I called an Everton player world class was about 40 years ago.

Moronic claims to the contrary are simply that.