Seamus Coleman was an unused sub for the Irish who beat Armenia 2-1 to secure a place in the playoffs for next summer's tournament.
But Marouane Fellaini won't be involved — his goal four minutes from time for Belgium was a mere consolation in a 3-1 defeat to Germany.
Jan Mucha and Slovakia were already out of contention after they lost to Russia 1-0 last Friday.
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1 Posted 12/10/2011 at 08:40:18
2 Posted 12/10/2011 at 09:32:13
It's been far too long since he should have been played in there for us.
3 Posted 12/10/2011 at 09:58:11
4 Posted 12/10/2011 at 17:31:45
Rodwell at right wing? Neville, Heitinga or Jags in midfield? Cahill as the sole striker? Bily on either wing?
Maybe it is rocket science, or perhaps Moyes knows something the Russians don't.
5 Posted 13/10/2011 at 13:27:25
When you have the smallest squad in the PL you are going to have to from time to time play people out of position.
Further, if Moyes hadn't played Coleman 'out of position' we wouldn't have realised what a good winger he was.
I do however, think Bily's attributes lend themselves better to 'the hole' as he has; vision, long shooting, slide rule passing ability and the ability to manufacture space for a shot.. He's certainly not mobile enough to live out wide.
6 Posted 13/10/2011 at 14:08:44
Dont know about any of you lot but if Guus Hiddink, on the level, says the lad is a left winger then I'd have taken that at face value. For me you have dreams about winning the lottery and then there are those, far better, ones where Hiddink is managing Everton!.
Could Bilyaletdinov be better used in the hole just off a lone-striker. Drenthe coming in certainly frees him of any left-sided responsibilities and he doesnt track back so leaving him wandering about up the pitch aimlessly like he does wont leave anyone especially exposed (as he has done to Bainsey a few times) .
I think he's going to have to wait until Cahill gets himself sidelined before that is a real possibility though. Even then Moyes might like Fellaini for that slot over Billy?. Certainly, if he does get his chance up there, he's going to have to put a dmansight more effort into beating a man and finding space than I've seen him do of late if he expects to keep a place.
7 Posted 13/10/2011 at 15:12:17
If he is good enough to get into the Russian side then I would assume we could flog him to one of the Moscow clubs or the one that's run by the billionaire where Eto went to. If he doesn't go in Jan, hopefully he has a great showing in the Euros and we can sell him then - although by then I think he'll only have about a year left on his contract.
Recover as much of the 9m as possible and move on. Just a waste for both player and club for him to be constantly on the bench coming on for his token 5 minute work permit apperance. Ranks up there with Shandy Andy and Per Koldrup as one of the managers' worst buys in relation to value for money.
8 Posted 13/10/2011 at 16:10:12
9 Posted 13/10/2011 at 16:09:38
10 Posted 13/10/2011 at 16:01:43
He can't get a game for Russia, we would clearly be willing to sell him but nobody's interested, and as stated above he was signed specifically as a left sided player. There are a number of valid criticisms of Moyes but his not playing Bily 'in the hole' is not one of them.
11 Posted 14/10/2011 at 14:11:10
Think pro- and anti-Moyes Everton fans can at least all agree that this was a crap transfer for both sides (contract cash aside) and we should just flog him for what we can get as the manager does not rate him (which was pretty clear soon after he came to us).
By the way, he does get a game for Russia as he regularly makes the squad and has about 45 caps ffs). Given this I would be amazed if a Russian club did not want him ? I just think either a) he doesn't want to go; or b) the club are holding out for more cash. I truly hope its not the latter as after this season he'll only have one more year left on his contract! I.e. we'll lose him for fuck all or on a free.
12 Posted 14/10/2011 at 16:42:00
Of course he gets a game, I was speaking generally, like people who say that Barkley and Vellios and Drenthe and Stracqualursi and everyone else who's always in our squad 'don't get a game'.
I would be very surprised if he's happy to be a peripheral player for us rather than move somewhere to play and potentially be paid more, and even more surprised if we had turned down a bid of anything around £4m or more. My conclusion from that is that nobody wants him.
13 Posted 17/10/2011 at 08:16:56
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