Everton News, Season 2011-12
McFadden rejoins Everton
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Sky Sports claimed earlier today that McFadden, who played over a 100 games for Everton before signing for Birmingam in a £5m draw, would re-sign for the Blues rather than join Celtic with whom he has also held talks.
Everton announced the conclusion of a deal with the former Scottish international on their website late this afternoon. McFadden signs on until the end 2011-12.
Original Source: EvertonFC.com
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Can anyone tell me what was so bad with Mcfadden exept that he is no striker? He has always played best in a left midfield position in my opinion.
Now I have seen many fans hitting out at Moyes for wanting McFadden but I can't see any other choice. He is free, he knows the team and club, plus he has experience, one would say it is a bad sign reverting to a former player but I don't fully agree with that.
In a normal finance world this move would not have happened, true. But we are skint and we need back-up striker for Saha and a left midfielder who can pass and who has a bit of height as well, as Osman don't. Anyone tell me what is so wrong about Mcfadden moving back in with us?
Now I have seen many fans hitting out at Moyes for wanting McFadden but I can't see any other choice. He is free, he knows the team and club, plus he has experience, one would say it is a bad sign reverting to a former player but I don't fully agree with that.
In a normal finance world this move would not have happened, true. But we are skint and we need back-up striker for Saha and a left midfielder who can pass and who has a bit of height as well, as Osman don't. Anyone tell me what is so wrong about Mcfadden moving back in with us?
If it is true McFadden is to re-sign for Everton, I hope it is pay when he plays. His previous injuries makes him highly medically suspect.
Jimmy.
There is nothing wrong with getting Mcfadden. He is a decent player to have in the squad. Unfortunately some fans are away with the fairies with regards to who they want Everton to sign. He is free for god's sake and can play as a striker or midfielder.
There is nothing wrong with getting Mcfadden. He is a decent player to have in the squad. Unfortunately some fans are away with the fairies with regards to who they want Everton to sign. He is free for god's sake and can play as a striker or midfielder.
Jimmy - 'What is so wrong about McFadden moving back in with us?'.
Three things.
1) He's fucking shite.
2) He's FUCKING shite.
3) He's fucking SHITE!
Hope that answers your question.
(Seriously, it's like they're trying to depress, sicken and antagonise us, all in one go!)
Three things.
1) He's fucking shite.
2) He's FUCKING shite.
3) He's fucking SHITE!
Hope that answers your question.
(Seriously, it's like they're trying to depress, sicken and antagonise us, all in one go!)
The need to do this is down to lack of money and blame goes to the Board for that.
But it is not McFadden who did that to the club and he should be welcomed and cheered ? at least give him a chance to do something. If he gets blamed for the state of the club then he will contribute nothing and it would be very unfair on the lad.
But it is not McFadden who did that to the club and he should be welcomed and cheered ? at least give him a chance to do something. If he gets blamed for the state of the club then he will contribute nothing and it would be very unfair on the lad.
How many more left-sided forward players is Moyes going to collect and not use? Bily, Drenthe, Gueye and now the return of the 'Scottish Rooney' (Ho ho!)
And Osman will still probably start against Fulham!
It beggars belief, it really does.
And Osman will still probably start against Fulham!
It beggars belief, it really does.
Graham, he's not free. He'll be getting more per week than I get per year. We are paying money to a goalkeeper we don't need and now money for a player well past his sell-by date. It'll be a poor player that McFadden keeps on the bench.
Actually, maybe not. Recent tactics suggest anything can happen. A pointless signing. Can you imagine one supporter accusing Moyes of missing out if we didn't get him?
Actually, maybe not. Recent tactics suggest anything can happen. A pointless signing. Can you imagine one supporter accusing Moyes of missing out if we didn't get him?
Wow, Eugene, that certainly clears it all up, thank you......
Shite as a striker, of course, a left midfielder no. However, I agree with Steavie in that he should be paid only by appearances, at least until the end of season.
Knowing Moyes, he will most likely give him a full contract, which to me sounds dangerous, as to the length of the contract plus that we don't know what shape he will be in.
Anyway I still feel as though we have to do something to broaden our team and bringing in McFadden could be a good short term solution. Typically some will say he will make us go down only because he went down with Birmingham.
What other free midfielder/strikers can you find who is a Scottish international? By getting him in and if we sign a contract with Drenthe our left side in midfield doesnt look all that weak anymore. Add Donovan on loan in January than we will pick points again pretty soon.
I cant explain it but I feel that McFadden could help Moyes to go for 4-4-2 again, as he provides experience wich we clearly need right now. Hanhnemann was a choice which I did not like, as he is clearly shite. I say again, McFadden is most likely to be used as a left midfielder, not a striker, knowing that how can anybody say that is bad?
Shite as a striker, of course, a left midfielder no. However, I agree with Steavie in that he should be paid only by appearances, at least until the end of season.
Knowing Moyes, he will most likely give him a full contract, which to me sounds dangerous, as to the length of the contract plus that we don't know what shape he will be in.
Anyway I still feel as though we have to do something to broaden our team and bringing in McFadden could be a good short term solution. Typically some will say he will make us go down only because he went down with Birmingham.
What other free midfielder/strikers can you find who is a Scottish international? By getting him in and if we sign a contract with Drenthe our left side in midfield doesnt look all that weak anymore. Add Donovan on loan in January than we will pick points again pretty soon.
I cant explain it but I feel that McFadden could help Moyes to go for 4-4-2 again, as he provides experience wich we clearly need right now. Hanhnemann was a choice which I did not like, as he is clearly shite. I say again, McFadden is most likely to be used as a left midfielder, not a striker, knowing that how can anybody say that is bad?
There's only one James McFadden,
One James McFadden....
It's a shame he is fucking dire.
One James McFadden....
It's a shame he is fucking dire.
There is no such thing as free.
No matter what your opinion of McFadden, there can be no doubt this is a backward step for the club.
Kenwright has EFC's best interest at heart? ? don't make me laugh.
No matter what your opinion of McFadden, there can be no doubt this is a backward step for the club.
Kenwright has EFC's best interest at heart? ? don't make me laugh.
This is not the first time for us or for Davie, isn't it? We re-signed Pistone, Unsworth, and Jo (though Jo's a slightly different category...also Linderoth and Fernandes, maybe???) after "letting them go", and if memory serves me right, they weren't exactly successes second time round.
With McFadden, though, it seems we're really scraping the bottom of the barrel. I mean, I can't recall any instance of him lighting up a game or playing a stormer since he left us, and unlike others, he left us a comparatively long time ago. Are there really no other free agents out there who might be worth a punt more than McFadden?
I liked McFadden when he was with us, even though he obviously didn't deliver the goods as consistently as his ability suggested. But this move really smacks of another example of DM's conservatism: stick with the players you know regardless of past/recent form.
My fear is not that he'll leave him on the bench to rot, as he's done with so many of our other signings. My fear is that Moyes will stick him in a 4-5-1 formation in the team regardless of whether he's actually up to the task or if his recent form suggests he should, simply because he "knows" McFadden and prefers to go with what he perceives as the "tried and tested".
Just look at Osman and Cahill and Jags and Hibbert and Neville and Rodwell. (Man, that's so depressing....)
With McFadden, though, it seems we're really scraping the bottom of the barrel. I mean, I can't recall any instance of him lighting up a game or playing a stormer since he left us, and unlike others, he left us a comparatively long time ago. Are there really no other free agents out there who might be worth a punt more than McFadden?
I liked McFadden when he was with us, even though he obviously didn't deliver the goods as consistently as his ability suggested. But this move really smacks of another example of DM's conservatism: stick with the players you know regardless of past/recent form.
My fear is not that he'll leave him on the bench to rot, as he's done with so many of our other signings. My fear is that Moyes will stick him in a 4-5-1 formation in the team regardless of whether he's actually up to the task or if his recent form suggests he should, simply because he "knows" McFadden and prefers to go with what he perceives as the "tried and tested".
Just look at Osman and Cahill and Jags and Hibbert and Neville and Rodwell. (Man, that's so depressing....)
Some of these comments seem to have lost touch with reality. McFadden isn't a bad player and ? in Everton's position ? he is certainly worth a gamble as he may well have a contribution to make. He knows the club, has some decent experience at our level and can play in different positions.
His goal against Charlton a few years ago was exceptional ? though I accept it was a rare moment of real genius. It is now on the Echo website for those of you who can't recall it.
Agree with whoever said that pay per play element is probably important in this deal. He appears to have chosen Everton above other offers. Can't someone at ToffeeWeb simply say welcome back and wish him good luck? Thought not.
His goal against Charlton a few years ago was exceptional ? though I accept it was a rare moment of real genius. It is now on the Echo website for those of you who can't recall it.
Agree with whoever said that pay per play element is probably important in this deal. He appears to have chosen Everton above other offers. Can't someone at ToffeeWeb simply say welcome back and wish him good luck? Thought not.
When you think things can't get worse and then you receive a slap in the face, you may as well just laugh.
To be honest though, I had about as much confidence in the signing of Campbell as I do this one and look how he turned out.
McRooney could be amazing... hehehehehe.
To be honest though, I had about as much confidence in the signing of Campbell as I do this one and look how he turned out.
McRooney could be amazing... hehehehehe.
Welcome back Mac - Good Luck, Mac.
There, Mark (#13) - someone has said it.
Now - don't even ask me what I think of him......
There, Mark (#13) - someone has said it.
Now - don't even ask me what I think of him......
We've a tiny squad, especially upfront where our options are fragile, Bily or Ossy haven't worked out on the left has some of the moaners in this thread have previously pointed out elsewhere, we've no money, and there's no-one else who'd join us for nothing. This move makes enough sense to me. Just hope he's not a complete crock.
Anyway, we could always end up cashing in on him down the line à la Lucas Neill.
Anyway, we could always end up cashing in on him down the line à la Lucas Neill.
I rather have Brian McFadden... shite player but at least he can sing a bit.
It isn't that we're on the verge of re-signing him that bothers me so much, I would think it an okay signing, except I believe we have better (and younger) players than him who often don't even make the first team squad.
Skilful player but spends too much time on the deck whinging at the ref/lino/other players, and it ruins his game every time.
Can we re-sign Dave Thomas?
Let's be honest here we play with Osman, Hibbert and Phil Neville in the team, so I for one will not be slagging off McFadden. We sold him for £5 million, the other three would not get a transfer fee!
Whats the bet he plays on Saturday and Vellios stays on the bench?
Fucking sick of it.
Fucking sick of it.
Things are looking very bleak.
I couldn't believe it when we actually got £5M for him off Brum... Thought we robbed them blind.
Now we are supposed to be happy cos he is on a free?? Well Joey Barton was on a free and he is worth 10 times more than McFadden... and you could sell him on and make a profit.
Baffling signin..
Now we are supposed to be happy cos he is on a free?? Well Joey Barton was on a free and he is worth 10 times more than McFadden... and you could sell him on and make a profit.
Baffling signin..
First of all... Good luck McFadden ? you're gonna need it!!! You will probably end up either as a lone striker or you may play left backl, It all depends on which player in the previous game has pissed off the UNTOUCHABLE MOYES the most!
Secondly, we are only 1/5 of the way through the season, and I can't remember such frustration and lack of optimism for the rest of the season for many many years!! It's obvious we need change it is looking unlikely that a buyer is coming, and even if we did get a New owner with Money to spend do you really believe it would be spent wisely by Moyes??
The only other option is Moyes to go. I know the club can't afford to sack him, but he appears to be untouchable and too comfy in his job. im getting really pissed off watching Everton at the moment and that HURTS. The majority of Fans seem to agree in what we need selection wise and what formations etc etc. But nothing he does at the moment seems practicle or beneficial.
Secondly, we are only 1/5 of the way through the season, and I can't remember such frustration and lack of optimism for the rest of the season for many many years!! It's obvious we need change it is looking unlikely that a buyer is coming, and even if we did get a New owner with Money to spend do you really believe it would be spent wisely by Moyes??
The only other option is Moyes to go. I know the club can't afford to sack him, but he appears to be untouchable and too comfy in his job. im getting really pissed off watching Everton at the moment and that HURTS. The majority of Fans seem to agree in what we need selection wise and what formations etc etc. But nothing he does at the moment seems practicle or beneficial.
Moyes, you have become the Crown Prince of Steamers...
What the hell are the dads of Vellios, Silva, Baxter, Stracqualursi, McAleny and Fellainis dad going to think NOW???
Also that Steve Round's become his grimer Wormtongue. GET ALAN IRVINE ON STAGE WITH `IM NOW.
What the hell are the dads of Vellios, Silva, Baxter, Stracqualursi, McAleny and Fellainis dad going to think NOW???
Also that Steve Round's become his grimer Wormtongue. GET ALAN IRVINE ON STAGE WITH `IM NOW.
This is actually turning into a nightmare.
You look back a few years and we had Lescott, Pienaar, Arteta, Yakubu, probably our most influential players. Today all of them have gone, we're down to the bare bones; playing young players out of position; borrowing players seemingly to make the numbers up; and now re-signing a player who was nowhere near good enough first time around. Taken on it's own, this is a bizarre transfer 1.) because he's been unable to secure a new contract elsewhere because he's been unavailable for selection and 2.) because he doesn't really offer anything new or different to what Everton already have at their disposal. But when you consider that Everton are prepared to pay the wages of both Hahnemann & McFadden, two players who will make minimal if any difference, yet were not prepared to pay the wages of Joey Barton, who's drive and determination is just the kind of quality this decadent team needs; well it's just baffling.
I am absolutely appalled at what is happening at Everton. The fans have turned up and supported this club far more than our Board of Directors have, even from a financial perspective. We deserve better than this; it's simply not good enough.
You look back a few years and we had Lescott, Pienaar, Arteta, Yakubu, probably our most influential players. Today all of them have gone, we're down to the bare bones; playing young players out of position; borrowing players seemingly to make the numbers up; and now re-signing a player who was nowhere near good enough first time around. Taken on it's own, this is a bizarre transfer 1.) because he's been unable to secure a new contract elsewhere because he's been unavailable for selection and 2.) because he doesn't really offer anything new or different to what Everton already have at their disposal. But when you consider that Everton are prepared to pay the wages of both Hahnemann & McFadden, two players who will make minimal if any difference, yet were not prepared to pay the wages of Joey Barton, who's drive and determination is just the kind of quality this decadent team needs; well it's just baffling.
I am absolutely appalled at what is happening at Everton. The fans have turned up and supported this club far more than our Board of Directors have, even from a financial perspective. We deserve better than this; it's simply not good enough.
Welcome home James. I for one was sad to see you leave. But one thing to remember is that players (and managers) hoping to wind the clock back by coming back to this club, usually end up disappointing themselves and the supporters. Francis Jeffers attempted a return which went badly wrong. We all know what happened when Howard Kendall tried to make come backs.
Inspite of the all the negativity, in this instance I admire the courageous decisions being made by club and player. I hope it works out well for both parties. I would suggest supporters actually support this move. We don't have to agree with it, but we really must support it.
Inspite of the all the negativity, in this instance I admire the courageous decisions being made by club and player. I hope it works out well for both parties. I would suggest supporters actually support this move. We don't have to agree with it, but we really must support it.
I just can't see the point. He's been a free agent because he was poor in a poor Birmingham side. Celtic were in two minds and they're crap. McFadden lost what pace he had (which wasn't much) with his cruciate injury. He scored the odd goal but was otherwise a latter day Peter Beagrie; beating the same player three times and then losing possession. Injury to one side, he won't be match fit for weeks if ever. I pray its a pay as you play deal but I doubt it.
Those who choose to cheer next time Kenwright's face appears on the screens at Goodison need to take a good look at yourselves. This signing is what happens when you scrape the barrel and can't find anything left to scrape.
Kenwright OUT !
Those who choose to cheer next time Kenwright's face appears on the screens at Goodison need to take a good look at yourselves. This signing is what happens when you scrape the barrel and can't find anything left to scrape.
Kenwright OUT !
I'm starting a campaign to bring back the Scottish Ashley Cole, the one and only Gary Naysmith
Hows Niclas Alexanderson doing these days? get ye boots lad.
David Weir would be good. He can shore up the leaky defence...
I dont care how small, inexperienced, injury prone our squad is. You do NOT get better by signing SHITE!!!
I wouldnt sign him as a bleeding programme seller!!
If this half hearted toss-pot gets a game in front of some of the talent we have on the bench, I will be gutted. Moyes has lost it!!
I wouldnt sign him as a bleeding programme seller!!
If this half hearted toss-pot gets a game in front of some of the talent we have on the bench, I will be gutted. Moyes has lost it!!
I can see saha throwing toys out of pram. And quite honestly, I'm totally with him.
The plot has been lost. Almost seems like we've given up. We just want to keep the score down and thats it.
This isn't good enough for Everton football club.
The plot has been lost. Almost seems like we've given up. We just want to keep the score down and thats it.
This isn't good enough for Everton football club.
This is actually turning into a nightmare.
You look back a few years and we had Lescott, Pienaar, Arteta, Yakubu, probably our most influential players. Today all of them have gone, we're down to the bare bones; playing young players out of position; borrowing players seemingly to make the numbers up; and now re-signing a player who was nowhere near good enough first time around. Taken on it's own, this is a bizarre transfer 1.) because he's been unable to secure a new contract elsewhere because he's been unavailable for selection and 2.) because he doesn't really offer anything new or different to what Everton already have at their disposal. But when you consider that Everton are prepared to pay the wages of both Hahnemann & McFadden, two players who will make minimal if any difference, yet were not prepared to pay the wages of Joey Barton, who's drive and determination is just the kind of quality this decadent team needs; well it's just baffling.
I am absolutely appalled at what is happening at Everton. The fans have turned up and supported this club far more than our Board of Directors have, even from a financial perspective. We deserve better than this; it's simply not good enough.
You look back a few years and we had Lescott, Pienaar, Arteta, Yakubu, probably our most influential players. Today all of them have gone, we're down to the bare bones; playing young players out of position; borrowing players seemingly to make the numbers up; and now re-signing a player who was nowhere near good enough first time around. Taken on it's own, this is a bizarre transfer 1.) because he's been unable to secure a new contract elsewhere because he's been unavailable for selection and 2.) because he doesn't really offer anything new or different to what Everton already have at their disposal. But when you consider that Everton are prepared to pay the wages of both Hahnemann & McFadden, two players who will make minimal if any difference, yet were not prepared to pay the wages of Joey Barton, who's drive and determination is just the kind of quality this decadent team needs; well it's just baffling.
I am absolutely appalled at what is happening at Everton. The fans have turned up and supported this club far more than our Board of Directors have, even from a financial perspective. We deserve better than this; it's simply not good enough.
Dear Dave and Ken
just in case you're not aware - though I'm sure your Scottish scouts have informed you - Alex Young is still with us. I can get his phone number if you need.
just in case you're not aware - though I'm sure your Scottish scouts have informed you - Alex Young is still with us. I can get his phone number if you need.
Bet Gueye is pleased.
TAXI FOR MOYES....that's me done i'd rather walk around town with a nail in my shoe than watch that shite every weekend!
Thanks Bill what a great Evertonian!
Thanks Bill what a great Evertonian!
Utter baffling, left sided players that don't get a look in already, a striker to add to those who also dont get a look in. Just what is the point of signing McFadden again?
I don't know what all the fuss is about.
To me it's just like a new signing!
To me it's just like a new signing!
Well he is now officially a new signing... he has signed for us...
This has a whiff of the Lucas Neils about it.
What have we got to lose, he was released because he got injured and Birmingham hit the skids.
If he's fit and fires in a few goals he'll either sign on or we'll sell him or he'll get a free transfer, either way he's got something to play for and we'll benefit, if he's shite we just release him at the end of the season and wish him the best of luck.
What have we got to lose, he was released because he got injured and Birmingham hit the skids.
If he's fit and fires in a few goals he'll either sign on or we'll sell him or he'll get a free transfer, either way he's got something to play for and we'll benefit, if he's shite we just release him at the end of the season and wish him the best of luck.
Maybe:
Hannerman = Mucha goes in Jan 2012 - saves on wages.
Jimmy Mac = Billy goes in Jan 2012 - saves on wages
Fellani's Dad = Fellani goes in Jan 2012 - pays off debt - saves on wages
Jag's agent = Jags goes in Jan 2012 - pay off debt - saves on wages
Moyes as manager = defensive football
Kenwright stays in charge = we are fooked.
COYB
Hannerman = Mucha goes in Jan 2012 - saves on wages.
Jimmy Mac = Billy goes in Jan 2012 - saves on wages
Fellani's Dad = Fellani goes in Jan 2012 - pays off debt - saves on wages
Jag's agent = Jags goes in Jan 2012 - pay off debt - saves on wages
Moyes as manager = defensive football
Kenwright stays in charge = we are fooked.
COYB
Its official - Good heavens!!!!!!!!!!!
When I first heard this rumour I laughed it off as a kopite wind up job. Now the reality has hit home I am gob smacked. Firstly none of my anger, resentment or frustration is aimed at Mcfadden - The lad has been given a chance to play Premership football again, who wouldnt say yes? its the Anichebe factor that I often allude to which is : Being crap but cant help being given game time, new contracts etc.. its Moyes who sees him, rates him, plays him. Young, hungry talented forwards with a point to prove will yet again watch from the sidelines as another injury-prone forward plays ahead of them. Its one thing lowering expectations but to get this desperate is unnaceptable. By the way good luck Mcfadden, none of this is your fault the club was fucked way before you left and now returned.
When I first heard this rumour I laughed it off as a kopite wind up job. Now the reality has hit home I am gob smacked. Firstly none of my anger, resentment or frustration is aimed at Mcfadden - The lad has been given a chance to play Premership football again, who wouldnt say yes? its the Anichebe factor that I often allude to which is : Being crap but cant help being given game time, new contracts etc.. its Moyes who sees him, rates him, plays him. Young, hungry talented forwards with a point to prove will yet again watch from the sidelines as another injury-prone forward plays ahead of them. Its one thing lowering expectations but to get this desperate is unnaceptable. By the way good luck Mcfadden, none of this is your fault the club was fucked way before you left and now returned.
Hard to fathom this one;McFadd has not played for about a year following a serious injury and before then he never really looked like a Premier league player with us or Birmingham.I cannot see what he can give us anywhere on or off the pitch and more to the point,will probably be seen as a PR Disaster, providing(rightly so) more ammunition to fire at the club by our long suffering supporters .We need a gleam of light, not James McFadden.
We're doomed.
I cannot believe this has happened. I agree with all the sentiment on here, it's not McFaddens fault and I wish him all the best.
However, wtf does this say to our youngsters? I'm totally gutted, this is such a backward step. I could rant for fucking hours...
I cannot believe this has happened. I agree with all the sentiment on here, it's not McFaddens fault and I wish him all the best.
However, wtf does this say to our youngsters? I'm totally gutted, this is such a backward step. I could rant for fucking hours...
Eugene #5 you nailed it except for the fact you didn't mention he is also lazy and a bad influence also.
I remember his last game (of the first spell I guess now) hoping at the time it was his last game. Bad attitude, stunk the place out.
We must be more desperate than I thought. If he gets in aheadt of Drenthe and Gueye then it may turn out to be a Road to Damascus moment for me I'm afraid...
I remember his last game (of the first spell I guess now) hoping at the time it was his last game. Bad attitude, stunk the place out.
We must be more desperate than I thought. If he gets in aheadt of Drenthe and Gueye then it may turn out to be a Road to Damascus moment for me I'm afraid...
Saturdays teams in !!
West
Hibbert
Weir
Kenyon
Pistone
Harvey
Kendall
McFadden
Cademarteri
Alex Young
Cambell
The youngsters Hibbert and McFadden have to perform or Moyes will have no hesitation in kicking their arses out.
Actually looking at the team its better than the shitbags we've got now !!
West
Hibbert
Weir
Kenyon
Pistone
Harvey
Kendall
McFadden
Cademarteri
Alex Young
Cambell
The youngsters Hibbert and McFadden have to perform or Moyes will have no hesitation in kicking their arses out.
Actually looking at the team its better than the shitbags we've got now !!
How bloody stupid, inviting a total has been back into the squad, FFS Moyes, what the hell are you doing?
If, as some of you say, that he's not a bad player, then why was he released by a championship side?
What is the problem, we have a small squad, and particularily short of strikers and wingers. McFadden can play on the left on the right and up front. We basically got £5m for noting for him which helped to bring Fellaini to the club along with the AJ money. Get behind the lad, he will be a good squad player.
No disrespect to McFadden but other free's that have been available in the last few months include Seb Larsson, Demba Ba and Joey Barton...maybe they cost more wages but this indicates how we are now struggling to keep up with the likes of Sunderland, Newcastle and even QPR...
I'm sure it's already been discussed above... BUT WHY WOULD THEY DO THIS!!!!!! I'm so over the way this club is managed. This season may be the one that does me in.
I thought this was a wind up but it looks like its actually happening.
For those who advocate his signing, I have three words for you. Drenthe, Gueye, Bill! If Moyes is planning on playing Mcfadden on the left, WTF are the above 3 supposed to play?
This is an utter waste of money (we dont have)!
Also bear in mind that he was rejected by frigging Birmingham and if true Wolves!
I just cannot see any logic in this what so ever!
For those who advocate his signing, I have three words for you. Drenthe, Gueye, Bill! If Moyes is planning on playing Mcfadden on the left, WTF are the above 3 supposed to play?
This is an utter waste of money (we dont have)!
Also bear in mind that he was rejected by frigging Birmingham and if true Wolves!
I just cannot see any logic in this what so ever!
I hear Andy Van Der Meyde has now been offered a contract to return. With Mc Fadden on the left and VDM on the right, we really will be something else! Perhaps we could get Mickey Walsh back to play up front.
That's the last straw; Moyes out out out out.
Anyone know what colours you mix to get green. Besides green and white. And has anyone seen my brollie.
The funny thing is, Moyes will probalby now come out and tell us that its going to take him a good few mths to get up to match fitness.
The more you look at this signing, the more laughable it becomes. My lad just told me that he read that McFadden has been out injured for 12mths, and hasn't started a competitive match since September 2010.
Surely you lads who think it is a good signing, have got to be joking, right?
Surely you lads who think it is a good signing, have got to be joking, right?
Denis#53
All may become apparent in January.
I believe Arteta's sale may be the final straw for a lot of players.
Jags for instance - high pressure from Arsenal to leave but he pledges future and loyalty to EFC. This is possibly based on promises that we were not going to sell any of our top players.Ala Kenwright's interview.
Bang, Mikel goes last minute.
Saha tweets;'noooooooooooo.' (Then told to shut up).
What does Jags think, nice guy that he is ? Cahill ? etc.
Maybe Jags stays and Jonny goes ?
So to Fellani - in his shoes,remember he has no loyalty to EFC or the city, would you stay if a Champions League team came in ?
Possibly,Mcfadden's signing could be the club preparing for a fire sale.
Either EFC wanting to sell or the club knowing transfer requests will be handed in if other teams are showing interest.
Ian50# - he was not that good first time around.
I presume Moyes has forgiven him for not passing to Cahill for a tap in the League Cup semi first leg,Stamford Bridge.
His final ball was mostly poor, he dribbled too much then lost the ball and his decision making was dodgy (see Chelsea away above).
3 or 4 Man of Match performances per season and that was only because he scored a great goal.
Very frustrating and he was younger, stronger, fitter and less injury prone then.
I am sure we will all give him the benefit of the doubt and get behind him but ...........
COYB
All may become apparent in January.
I believe Arteta's sale may be the final straw for a lot of players.
Jags for instance - high pressure from Arsenal to leave but he pledges future and loyalty to EFC. This is possibly based on promises that we were not going to sell any of our top players.Ala Kenwright's interview.
Bang, Mikel goes last minute.
Saha tweets;'noooooooooooo.' (Then told to shut up).
What does Jags think, nice guy that he is ? Cahill ? etc.
Maybe Jags stays and Jonny goes ?
So to Fellani - in his shoes,remember he has no loyalty to EFC or the city, would you stay if a Champions League team came in ?
Possibly,Mcfadden's signing could be the club preparing for a fire sale.
Either EFC wanting to sell or the club knowing transfer requests will be handed in if other teams are showing interest.
Ian50# - he was not that good first time around.
I presume Moyes has forgiven him for not passing to Cahill for a tap in the League Cup semi first leg,Stamford Bridge.
His final ball was mostly poor, he dribbled too much then lost the ball and his decision making was dodgy (see Chelsea away above).
3 or 4 Man of Match performances per season and that was only because he scored a great goal.
Very frustrating and he was younger, stronger, fitter and less injury prone then.
I am sure we will all give him the benefit of the doubt and get behind him but ...........
COYB
I didn't mind him, he ain't a striker though, what's wrong in playing our secret weapon Gueye?, It must be soul destroying as his career has now stopped.
What does puzzle me about the James McFadden situation is, is a relegated team don't require him, why the hell do we?
Now everyone - how was the Peter Johnson/Walter Smith days any worse. Say what you like, but at least under Johnson we saw improvements to Woodsion and a trophy, yes ther were many faults but how are we better over 10 years later with this overpaid negative excuse of a manager.
What does puzzle me about the James McFadden situation is, is a relegated team don't require him, why the hell do we?
Now everyone - how was the Peter Johnson/Walter Smith days any worse. Say what you like, but at least under Johnson we saw improvements to Woodsion and a trophy, yes ther were many faults but how are we better over 10 years later with this overpaid negative excuse of a manager.
The ONLY way this is a signing worth having is if he is on some form of pay-as-you-play. Otherwise what a waste of our already limited funds.
Moyes is turning into Walter Smith, taking on crocked has-beens. Although in McFaddens case he wasn't even that good to start with.
The only way this club can survive with no investment is with a shrewd transfer policy that promotes hungry young players with potential, and sells the has-beens for a good profit.
We should be giving serious game-time to players like Barkley, Vellios, Drenthe and Gueye and scouring the world for players like them with potential and something to prove.
Thats where the cash should be going, not to fund the likes of McFadden who has proven to be not good enough for us and not good enough for the premier league.
Moyes is turning into Walter Smith, taking on crocked has-beens. Although in McFaddens case he wasn't even that good to start with.
The only way this club can survive with no investment is with a shrewd transfer policy that promotes hungry young players with potential, and sells the has-beens for a good profit.
We should be giving serious game-time to players like Barkley, Vellios, Drenthe and Gueye and scouring the world for players like them with potential and something to prove.
Thats where the cash should be going, not to fund the likes of McFadden who has proven to be not good enough for us and not good enough for the premier league.
Got this from my uncle's friend's wife's cousin who works in a chippie next to a shop that Moyes passes on his way to Goodison. Plan is sign him up & sell him to Leicester for £5m in January!!
Just passed Marcus Bent driving in a northernly direction on the motorway and he had z-cars playing in his car !
He is better than Victor.
Nothing to get hot and fussy about, he'll be a sub at most. Just extra numbers inase of injuries, maybe allow for the sale of Bily in January.
I just hope Guaye is ahead of him in hte pecking order.
I just hope Guaye is ahead of him in hte pecking order.
Its like our own club is helping other clubs supporters to have a good laugh at our expense.The sooner Kenwrong and the so pride of britain moyes(not) are gone the better.But i think it is going to get a whole lot worse before they go.What baffles me is that a lot of Evertonians dont seem that bothered about what there doing to our club,And a lot of them actually agree with what that TWAT kenrong is doing.All you people who clapped the TWAT when his face came on the screen,It is you who gave him the green light to carry on killing this club.
Thank got for that! I've just had a terrible dream that we re-signed James McFadden, yes that James McFadden the one who use to chase a lost cause then gave up when he found it, went down more blind alleys than a dockland brass, that's when he wasn't running round like a headless chicken.
I woke up just in time.
I woke up just in time.
Well it only took up to #9 before someone mentioned Landon Donovan!!!! It was 2yrs ago for gods sake!!! Move on!!!
Oh and McFadden isnt any good on the left centre or right!!! Slower than a slow thing!!!
Oh and McFadden isnt any good on the left centre or right!!! Slower than a slow thing!!!
I am totally amazed by this signing, for a club that is desperate for money we have now brought in another wage to find. Also in a position were we are overloaded with players,Drenthe,Gueye,Biley and of late Osman.
I will be interested to hear Davie Moyes comments about taking a player on loan who hasnt kicked a ball for 12 months. This isnt an addition to the squad its a liability.
I will be interested to hear Davie Moyes comments about taking a player on loan who hasnt kicked a ball for 12 months. This isnt an addition to the squad its a liability.
Moyes, Do the right thing and GO!!!! we have stagnated for the last 3-4 years you have taken us as far as you can!! Even when we have had money in the past and signed Players who at the time were Proven ie.. Yakubu, Johnson, Beattie. All of these strikers who im sure not just I but most fans felt were probably the final pieces to the jigsaw, And we should of really kicked on but we went backwards???. The point Im making is whoever Moyes signs I dont think he gets the best out of them, Well not the Forwards anyway! NEGATIVE tactics and no clear game plans anymore, Im fed up of watching at the moment!! we need a new man at the helm.
An addition to the squad. Who cares? For now, pay as you play for sure. But after the last 4-5 games it's not so hard to work out whop he'd replace in the side.
I was a big fan of Oz, once but not now. He's a waste of effin space. Replace him with Fads and at least we'll have some footballing imagination in the side. If you're going to go (as MOyes loves) 4-4-1-1 then get Fads in the Cahill role. This guy has a point to prove, Cahill at the moment doesn't.
Thats the difference.
Having said all that,
Moyes out Bilic in !!
I was a big fan of Oz, once but not now. He's a waste of effin space. Replace him with Fads and at least we'll have some footballing imagination in the side. If you're going to go (as MOyes loves) 4-4-1-1 then get Fads in the Cahill role. This guy has a point to prove, Cahill at the moment doesn't.
Thats the difference.
Having said all that,
Moyes out Bilic in !!
just 'you tubed' this guy and he looks awesome!
Might as well take down the club flag at Goodison and replace it with a white one, because the manager has given up and still fans chant his fucking name at the ground.
Next week it will be David Weir!
Next week it will be David Weir!
Moyes is preparing fo the january sales.
Billy back to russia.
Baines to Chelsea or Arsenal.
Drenthe at left back,,and thhe fantastic Ozzie or Fadd on the left wing..
Can't wait.Mouthwatering..
Billy back to russia.
Baines to Chelsea or Arsenal.
Drenthe at left back,,and thhe fantastic Ozzie or Fadd on the left wing..
Can't wait.Mouthwatering..
Don' know about David Weir.What about David Nixon.Now we're talking magic....
Fuck me!!! What's happening!!! Call the yellow van man..
Fuck me!!! What's happening!!! Call the yellow van man..
The really bizarre thing about this is that when he was here Moyes never really gave him a consistent series of starts. Now that he is older but not wiser and still recovering from a serious ACL injury he's supposed to be better than when we let him go? It makes no sense. By the way, is that Kevin Kilbane I see reporting for training?
Moyes out is not the answer - he is just playing the cards he has been dealt by that ?loveable? Evertonian Kenwright.
Andy @ #69 - From the three mentioned players you mention only Beattie was truly crap. Yakubu was our first striker in 20+ years to score over 20 goals in a season, if he hadn?t of got injured he would have been great for us, and we made a profit on AJ.
I agree with what many people have said - it will be a shame to see him play in front of one of the many talented youngsters we have at the Club. However, Moyes is the one that see?s the players on a daily basis, he obviously doesn?t see enough in the likes of Gueye, Mustafi, Duffy, Baxter and the rest to give them a game. The same is obvious about Heitinga, Billy and Mucha - so why don?t we sell them? Well you can?t sell a player if no one is interested? NSNO
Andy @ #69 - From the three mentioned players you mention only Beattie was truly crap. Yakubu was our first striker in 20+ years to score over 20 goals in a season, if he hadn?t of got injured he would have been great for us, and we made a profit on AJ.
I agree with what many people have said - it will be a shame to see him play in front of one of the many talented youngsters we have at the Club. However, Moyes is the one that see?s the players on a daily basis, he obviously doesn?t see enough in the likes of Gueye, Mustafi, Duffy, Baxter and the rest to give them a game. The same is obvious about Heitinga, Billy and Mucha - so why don?t we sell them? Well you can?t sell a player if no one is interested? NSNO
Andy, so what does Moyes see in McFadden to give him a contract?
It can't be for his goalscoring, considering he bagged only 11 goals in 139 games for us.
As I mentioned before, McFadden has been out injured for 12 mths, and hasn't played a competitive game since september 2010.
Why bring a player in who is probalby not going to be match fit for mths.
Its all just baffling.
It can't be for his goalscoring, considering he bagged only 11 goals in 139 games for us.
As I mentioned before, McFadden has been out injured for 12 mths, and hasn't played a competitive game since september 2010.
Why bring a player in who is probalby not going to be match fit for mths.
Its all just baffling.
John cox completley agree 100%!
YEEEEESSSSSS !
With 'Jimmy mack' back we now have the final piece in place for a glorious 'Push for fourth'. Now if only our magnificent manager & astute chairman could bring back 'Gazza' ( well he is now sober...alledgedly ) we could have a chance at the title !
With 'Jimmy mack' back we now have the final piece in place for a glorious 'Push for fourth'. Now if only our magnificent manager & astute chairman could bring back 'Gazza' ( well he is now sober...alledgedly ) we could have a chance at the title !
1.All you people hitting out against Moyes on this site, go and shout and protest during a match instead, that is the only way he can be forced out, by fans unrest.
2. Drenthe and Gueye can play right side of midfield, and Billy does not fit on the left side.
3.Bringing in a new player is a good thing.
4.Even though Mcfadden can play as a striker he will NOT be used as one, he is first and foremost a left sided Midfielder.
5.I get that you wanted Barton but he was not free as it turned out, he cost qpr 4 million in sign on fees, plus wages, and we didnt have the arteta money at that time anyway.
6.Mcfadden is on a end of season contract so tell me knowing all this how is he a negative signing???
I get he is not top class, but he is a good squad player. I support Moyes getting him back until the summer, we will wait and see if he will do well or not.
He simply acts as a alternative to Drenthe and that is not so bad if you ask me. I like alternatives and I think Mcfadden at his best can provide good passes and 2 or 3 goals.
2. Drenthe and Gueye can play right side of midfield, and Billy does not fit on the left side.
3.Bringing in a new player is a good thing.
4.Even though Mcfadden can play as a striker he will NOT be used as one, he is first and foremost a left sided Midfielder.
5.I get that you wanted Barton but he was not free as it turned out, he cost qpr 4 million in sign on fees, plus wages, and we didnt have the arteta money at that time anyway.
6.Mcfadden is on a end of season contract so tell me knowing all this how is he a negative signing???
I get he is not top class, but he is a good squad player. I support Moyes getting him back until the summer, we will wait and see if he will do well or not.
He simply acts as a alternative to Drenthe and that is not so bad if you ask me. I like alternatives and I think Mcfadden at his best can provide good passes and 2 or 3 goals.
This has not been a rushed signing so presumably McFadden has passed a thorough physical exam.
I would be interested to know how his goal scoring record with us compare with Osman's.
I would be interested to know how his goal scoring record with us compare with Osman's.
Why does everyone presume he's going to be on the left wing? The guy got a titty lip on last time he was here, saying he was sick off playing out wide and wanted to play in his 'proper' position upfront. He then went on to strike up a successful strike partnership with James Beattie and prove that...no, wait on..er...never mind.
I also remember him turning around and having a go at the supporters in the Zenit St.Petersburg game (after the audible groans that greeted him fannying about and losing the ball for the twenty sixth time). Stroppy twat.
Still. Nice to have him back. Bit of competition for Bily in the 'infuriating as fuck' stakes.
I also remember him turning around and having a go at the supporters in the Zenit St.Petersburg game (after the audible groans that greeted him fannying about and losing the ball for the twenty sixth time). Stroppy twat.
Still. Nice to have him back. Bit of competition for Bily in the 'infuriating as fuck' stakes.
We are preparing for play in the championship.-
And the award for most underwhelming signing of the season goes to.....
McFadden can be no worse than Saha if asked to play upfront which I'm sure is where he played for Birmingham.
Saha is an old, awful, over the hill, over paid, crocked joke who should never put a blue shirt on again.
I wish McFadden well and hope he can provide us with some flair and a goal scoring threat which we have almost none of, he is also ten times the player Billy is out wide.
Saha is an old, awful, over the hill, over paid, crocked joke who should never put a blue shirt on again.
I wish McFadden well and hope he can provide us with some flair and a goal scoring threat which we have almost none of, he is also ten times the player Billy is out wide.
Wow... Just wow.
Not that I have anything major against him personally... But he can't tackle, has no pace, drifts out of position, can't hold the ball up as he has little strength and loses the ball too often trying to take on the world - and that was when he was fit!
If we had 'let him train' with us til Christmas, fine... But it's a loss take signing. As people say, Gueye must be ecstatic. He might get 5 goals if he played up front for the season... About the same as Neville if he played there.
It's probably a cunning plan to turn him into Fellaini's replacement in Jan.
Not that I have anything major against him personally... But he can't tackle, has no pace, drifts out of position, can't hold the ball up as he has little strength and loses the ball too often trying to take on the world - and that was when he was fit!
If we had 'let him train' with us til Christmas, fine... But it's a loss take signing. As people say, Gueye must be ecstatic. He might get 5 goals if he played up front for the season... About the same as Neville if he played there.
It's probably a cunning plan to turn him into Fellaini's replacement in Jan.
I believe Mc Fadden will provide us with flair.
I believe in Fairies at the bottom of my garden.
I believe in Global Warming.
I believe in Fairies at the bottom of my garden.
I believe in Global Warming.
Up there with the Senderos and Gardner signings - pointless!
Use one of the youngsters' don't wind the clock back
And what the hell is the Marcus Hahnemann signing all about?
Use one of the youngsters' don't wind the clock back
And what the hell is the Marcus Hahnemann signing all about?
As Duncan Bannatyne would say " This scheme makes no sense to me whatsoever, it will all end in tears, and for that reason - I'm oot."
He can play a natural LS midfield role and we desperately need that and he could possible score the odd goal in that role. Come on it must be worth a try on the right terms? Perhaps he'll be a bench warmer and that Drenthe will be the best choice we have for that position but at least he gives a choice that we don't have.
If I was fatalistic and believe that everything was predestined and that nothing could be done to change it, I'd say that we will be relegated this season. A couple more bad results will see us in the bottom three at Xmas.
Two things, the board aren't going and they are going to tie Moyes to a longer contract so if EFC are going to go then so be it, we sink or swim with the BK/DM axis (I fear the worst personally). Where will you stand though, as a supporter or a deserter? Deserting is a perfectly acceptable option for customers.
If I was fatalistic and believe that everything was predestined and that nothing could be done to change it, I'd say that we will be relegated this season. A couple more bad results will see us in the bottom three at Xmas.
Two things, the board aren't going and they are going to tie Moyes to a longer contract so if EFC are going to go then so be it, we sink or swim with the BK/DM axis (I fear the worst personally). Where will you stand though, as a supporter or a deserter? Deserting is a perfectly acceptable option for customers.
Not good enough for Birmingham but good enough for us how far have we fallen THIS IS A FUCKING DISGRACE MOYES go back to Preston and ill pay your cab fair.!!!!!!!!!
Think the sarcasm of the gobshites nailed it. " David Moyes is a football genius"
I take it Sharpy didn't fancy doing two jobs on the same pay... Pity; it would have been a better option than Fanny McFadden, what a joke.
Martin 90# - part of the reason Jimmy Mac left was because he wanted to play through the middle as he did for Scotland.
He was constantly moaning about being put on the wing.
He got his way at Birmingham, played well in a few games then was shite then injured.
Kenwright's theme - all together now:
We're on a ride to nowhere
Come on inside
Takin' that ride to nowhere
We'll take that ride
He was constantly moaning about being put on the wing.
He got his way at Birmingham, played well in a few games then was shite then injured.
Kenwright's theme - all together now:
We're on a ride to nowhere
Come on inside
Takin' that ride to nowhere
We'll take that ride
I can't believe I'm going to defend McFadden but he wasn't actually released by Birmingham, he decided not to sign a new contract wih them - still that dosen't mean he is good enough for us.
To me it seems that since Arteta was sold the Club are desperate to use the money, and not very wisely. First Hahnemann was signed on how much a week, now McFadden. What's the betting another youngster is loaned out this week to get first team experience - a.k.a. balance the books... NSNO
To me it seems that since Arteta was sold the Club are desperate to use the money, and not very wisely. First Hahnemann was signed on how much a week, now McFadden. What's the betting another youngster is loaned out this week to get first team experience - a.k.a. balance the books... NSNO
Ian # 50 "BANG" on cue to leap to the resuce of your mate Davey as soon as the great man is questioned. And lets be honest he hasnt exactly helped himself here has he?
"Get behind the lad, he will be a good squad player."
No problem, like I said this has nothing to do with the player, good luck to him and its great on a personal note for him that he has another shot of top flight football. But you seem to miss the general ill feeling towards what has unfolded during this transfer. let me break it down for you:
Moyes who bemoans lack of financial clout, numbers & options has THREE left sided players (Bily was signed as a winger but is clearley not, but more chance of Kelly Brook declaring her love for me than him ever playing behind a forward). Yet he uses them sparingly or not at all "secret weapon" ring any bells, and Drenthe who appeard to be TOO fast and er.. good for Moyes's liking, but signs Mcfadden who wasnt the best shall we say in his first spell, whos been injured for 12 months. Look I get that you like Moyes's as a manager ( A LOT) but this smacks of desperation & pointlessness. The clubs image is in tatters as it is, every last ounce of ambition is being sapped, Moyes lost his a long time ago if truth be told. I admire your continual defence of the current regime but I cannot be part of it, things need to change and Moyes is now part of the problem.. if you cannot see this I can only question your logic.
"Get behind the lad, he will be a good squad player."
No problem, like I said this has nothing to do with the player, good luck to him and its great on a personal note for him that he has another shot of top flight football. But you seem to miss the general ill feeling towards what has unfolded during this transfer. let me break it down for you:
Moyes who bemoans lack of financial clout, numbers & options has THREE left sided players (Bily was signed as a winger but is clearley not, but more chance of Kelly Brook declaring her love for me than him ever playing behind a forward). Yet he uses them sparingly or not at all "secret weapon" ring any bells, and Drenthe who appeard to be TOO fast and er.. good for Moyes's liking, but signs Mcfadden who wasnt the best shall we say in his first spell, whos been injured for 12 months. Look I get that you like Moyes's as a manager ( A LOT) but this smacks of desperation & pointlessness. The clubs image is in tatters as it is, every last ounce of ambition is being sapped, Moyes lost his a long time ago if truth be told. I admire your continual defence of the current regime but I cannot be part of it, things need to change and Moyes is now part of the problem.. if you cannot see this I can only question your logic.
If ever a thread highlighted that section of the fans that shrouds themselves in a veil of moyes can do no wrong delusion...waffle away but the crux of the issue is that this player is of low quality and not suitable for the 8-1-1 system the manager so prefers.
I can't help but feel that for all the Board's ineptitude, Moyes is at least partly culpable for this situation we now find ourselves in.
There can be no arguments that the Board have, until recently, reinvested any money back into the squad, in the hope of reaching the riches of the Champions League group stages. To this end, they allowed Moyes to invest £15M in Fellaini, and a further £24M in Distin, Heitinga and Bilyaletdinov. It's well documented that Moyes is great value for money, £-for-£ etc., yet conversely, when he has had a few quid to spend, you could argue that we're not getting value at all. I'm a fan of Fellaini but at £15M there is better value, and it's fair to say Heitinga and Bily are two players who've contributed very little for the money paid; similarly, although Distin has for the most part been reasonably solid, at £6M he was in my opinion a bit overpriced.
I can't helpt but feel that Kenwright & Moyes should have made a decision a few years back to invest the money spent on the aforementioned players on cheaper, hungrier (British?) models, and syphoning the rest off to progress other areas of the business for future benefit. c£40M spent on Fellaini, Heitinga and Bilyaletdinov in fees & wages, represents very poor value for what they've contributed, and it's not daft to suggest we could have had a better return on spending half of that amount on alternatives.
Effectively the decision to invest in these players has left us hamstrung; makes you wonder how best to spend the Arteta money, if indeed any of it is made available.
There can be no arguments that the Board have, until recently, reinvested any money back into the squad, in the hope of reaching the riches of the Champions League group stages. To this end, they allowed Moyes to invest £15M in Fellaini, and a further £24M in Distin, Heitinga and Bilyaletdinov. It's well documented that Moyes is great value for money, £-for-£ etc., yet conversely, when he has had a few quid to spend, you could argue that we're not getting value at all. I'm a fan of Fellaini but at £15M there is better value, and it's fair to say Heitinga and Bily are two players who've contributed very little for the money paid; similarly, although Distin has for the most part been reasonably solid, at £6M he was in my opinion a bit overpriced.
I can't helpt but feel that Kenwright & Moyes should have made a decision a few years back to invest the money spent on the aforementioned players on cheaper, hungrier (British?) models, and syphoning the rest off to progress other areas of the business for future benefit. c£40M spent on Fellaini, Heitinga and Bilyaletdinov in fees & wages, represents very poor value for what they've contributed, and it's not daft to suggest we could have had a better return on spending half of that amount on alternatives.
Effectively the decision to invest in these players has left us hamstrung; makes you wonder how best to spend the Arteta money, if indeed any of it is made available.
Ian # 50 "BANG" on cue to leap to the resuce of your mate Davey as soon as the great man is questioned. And lets be honest he hasnt exactly helped himself here has he?
"Get behind the lad, he will be a good squad player."
No problem, like I said this has nothing to do with the player, good luck to him and its great on a personal note for him that he has another shot of top flight football. But you seem to miss the general ill feeling towards what has unfolded during this transfer. let me break it down for you:
Moyes who bemoans lack of financial clout, numbers & options has THREE left sided players (Bily was signed as a winger but is clearley not, but more chance of Kelly Brook declaring her love for me than him ever playing behind a forward). Yet he uses them sparingly or not at all "secret weapon" ring any bells, and Drenthe who appeard to be TOO fast and er.. good for Moyes's liking, but signs Mcfadden who wasnt the best shall we say in his first spell, whos been injured for 12 months. Look I get that you like Moyes's as a manager ( A LOT) but this smacks of desperation & pointlessness. The clubs image is in tatters as it is, every last ounce of ambition is being sapped, Moyes lost his a long time ago if truth be told. I admire your continual defence of the current regime but I cannot be part of it, things need to change and Moyes is now part of the problem.. if you cannot see this I can only question your logic.
"Get behind the lad, he will be a good squad player."
No problem, like I said this has nothing to do with the player, good luck to him and its great on a personal note for him that he has another shot of top flight football. But you seem to miss the general ill feeling towards what has unfolded during this transfer. let me break it down for you:
Moyes who bemoans lack of financial clout, numbers & options has THREE left sided players (Bily was signed as a winger but is clearley not, but more chance of Kelly Brook declaring her love for me than him ever playing behind a forward). Yet he uses them sparingly or not at all "secret weapon" ring any bells, and Drenthe who appeard to be TOO fast and er.. good for Moyes's liking, but signs Mcfadden who wasnt the best shall we say in his first spell, whos been injured for 12 months. Look I get that you like Moyes's as a manager ( A LOT) but this smacks of desperation & pointlessness. The clubs image is in tatters as it is, every last ounce of ambition is being sapped, Moyes lost his a long time ago if truth be told. I admire your continual defence of the current regime but I cannot be part of it, things need to change and Moyes is now part of the problem.. if you cannot see this I can only question your logic.
If ever a thread highlighted that section of the fans that shrouds themselves in a veil of moyes can do no wrong delusion...waffle away but the crux of the issue is that this player is of low quality and not suitable for the 8-1-1 system the manager so prefers.
Surely, this can only be a "squad" decision. This and everything else has been already said on this message trail. Scottish connection loyalty??
Hmmmmm!!
Hmmmmm!!
"A good squad player" is a euphemism for a shite player. Jamie Carragher can outsprint him. This is a new low.
I can't help but feel that for all the Board's ineptitude, Moyes is at least partly culpable for this situation we now find ourselves in.
There can be no arguments that the Board have, until recently, reinvested any money back into the squad, in the hope of reaching the riches of the Champions League group stages. To this end, they allowed Moyes to invest £15M in Fellaini, and a further £24M in Distin, Heitinga and Bilyaletdinov. It's well documented that Moyes is great value for money, £-for-£ etc., yet conversely, when he has had a few quid to spend, you could argue that we're not getting value at all. I'm a fan of Fellaini but at £15M there is better value, and it's fair to say Heitinga and Bily are two players who've contributed very little for the money paid; similarly, although Distin has for the most part been reasonably solid, at £6M he was in my opinion a bit overpriced.
I can't helpt but feel that Kenwright & Moyes should have made a decision a few years back to invest the money spent on the aforementioned players on cheaper, hungrier (British?) models, and syphoning the rest off to progress other areas of the business for future benefit. c£40M spent on Fellaini, Heitinga and Bilyaletdinov in fees & wages, represents very poor value for what they've contributed, and it's not daft to suggest we could have had a better return on spending half of that amount on alternatives.
Effectively the decision to invest in these players has left us hamstrung; makes you wonder how best to spend the Arteta money, if indeed any of it is made available.
There can be no arguments that the Board have, until recently, reinvested any money back into the squad, in the hope of reaching the riches of the Champions League group stages. To this end, they allowed Moyes to invest £15M in Fellaini, and a further £24M in Distin, Heitinga and Bilyaletdinov. It's well documented that Moyes is great value for money, £-for-£ etc., yet conversely, when he has had a few quid to spend, you could argue that we're not getting value at all. I'm a fan of Fellaini but at £15M there is better value, and it's fair to say Heitinga and Bily are two players who've contributed very little for the money paid; similarly, although Distin has for the most part been reasonably solid, at £6M he was in my opinion a bit overpriced.
I can't helpt but feel that Kenwright & Moyes should have made a decision a few years back to invest the money spent on the aforementioned players on cheaper, hungrier (British?) models, and syphoning the rest off to progress other areas of the business for future benefit. c£40M spent on Fellaini, Heitinga and Bilyaletdinov in fees & wages, represents very poor value for what they've contributed, and it's not daft to suggest we could have had a better return on spending half of that amount on alternatives.
Effectively the decision to invest in these players has left us hamstrung; makes you wonder how best to spend the Arteta money, if indeed any of it is made available.
Nothing agains McFadden but its going to be interesting to see if Moyes actually uses him.
On the surface it seems like a slap in the face to our young guys. Vellios has taken advantage of every tiny chance Moyes gives him and yet he is still seen as too young or lacking experience.
He can only get that experience if the manager shows some confidence in him. If big Vic comes back and pushes Vellios further down the list it might just be one slap to many for the young guy.
Such a small squad and we have three keepers. Its been said but it all points to the club making a bunch more sales come January.
On the surface it seems like a slap in the face to our young guys. Vellios has taken advantage of every tiny chance Moyes gives him and yet he is still seen as too young or lacking experience.
He can only get that experience if the manager shows some confidence in him. If big Vic comes back and pushes Vellios further down the list it might just be one slap to many for the young guy.
Such a small squad and we have three keepers. Its been said but it all points to the club making a bunch more sales come January.
Col 95. What are you talking about? I do not defend Moyes at all cost for the sake of it at the expense of Everton, i genuinley believe over the course of a season Jimmy Mc will come in usefull, even if he only makes half a dozzen sub appearances and provides a couple of goals or assists, which he is capable of.
Moyes isnt trying to help himself with this signing, he's trying to help the club by giving us some more options.
"Moyes who bemoans lack of financial clout, numbers & options" Exactly thats why we brought him back because he was free and we are short of options, we cant afford to go out and buy Aguaro or Torres.
" you seem to miss the general ill feeling towards what has unfolded during this transfer." So what? there has been a lot of ill feeling towards the signing of a lot of players like Kilbane, Bent etc who went on to do well for us and even made us a bit of money. who gives a toss what the brainless sheep think on here? I have far more faith in David Moyes asessment. You talk about left sided players but McFadden can play on the right, up front and behind the forward so whats the point you are making?
"this smacks of desperation " yes, because we are desperate, because we have a small squad and we have no money so an international player who can play in a number of positions is not something to turn your noes up at.
Moyes isnt trying to help himself with this signing, he's trying to help the club by giving us some more options.
"Moyes who bemoans lack of financial clout, numbers & options" Exactly thats why we brought him back because he was free and we are short of options, we cant afford to go out and buy Aguaro or Torres.
" you seem to miss the general ill feeling towards what has unfolded during this transfer." So what? there has been a lot of ill feeling towards the signing of a lot of players like Kilbane, Bent etc who went on to do well for us and even made us a bit of money. who gives a toss what the brainless sheep think on here? I have far more faith in David Moyes asessment. You talk about left sided players but McFadden can play on the right, up front and behind the forward so whats the point you are making?
"this smacks of desperation " yes, because we are desperate, because we have a small squad and we have no money so an international player who can play in a number of positions is not something to turn your noes up at.
You're all forgetting that 04/05 was our Champions League season, of which Faddy was a part. A slow, ineffective, 'sort of left-sided' part, but a part nonetheless. If anyone has Marcus Bent's phone number, I think we're well on our way to 4th place.
I see this as a Scottish Mafia thing between him and Moyes after all what other reason could there be for resigning a player who is so crap he couldnt even get in the Birminghams team?
In my opinion signing McFadden is Moyes and Kenwrights declaration and preparation for the Championship next season after all we wont be able to attract any better players then and the "good " ones we have will already be gone.
He's slow, he can't tackle, he can't make a five yard pass, he's neither a striker or a winger, he can't head a ball. He's absolutely shite !! We should get rid of Billy and bring back McFadden !!
Maybe he's just company for Bily when the squad go for a run in training?
Honestly can't see any other purpose.
Honestly can't see any other purpose.
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrggggggggghhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sigh....
Double Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrggggggggghhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I cant believe it. how low have we sunk,,,,,,,,, I wont support Mcfadden just cause he wears a blue shirt. He is not only shite he is a shyster. We will get all the usual diatribe about "great to be back home" but lets get one thing straight the boy is here for the money and we are that desperate that we will give him it.
Well I am not that desperate and I have had enough. Anyone who wishes me well can stick it and I pity you for being that blinkered that you are prepared to be robbed of your hard earned money by shysters like this lad, who doesnt give a flying fuck about the ONCE great club that I love. I seriously have a tear in my eye right now and I am so low.
Fuck off Moyes, (not Kenwright) Moyes. this is his signing.
Well I am not that desperate and I have had enough. Anyone who wishes me well can stick it and I pity you for being that blinkered that you are prepared to be robbed of your hard earned money by shysters like this lad, who doesnt give a flying fuck about the ONCE great club that I love. I seriously have a tear in my eye right now and I am so low.
Fuck off Moyes, (not Kenwright) Moyes. this is his signing.
Maybe we can sign Thomas Gravesen for a third time..FFS!!!
Never worked out with him last time! It'd be amazing if it does this time. Bring back big Dunc. Big hoof up field by Jags, straight on to Dunc's nodder, hey presto, gazillions of route one goals!
Must have dozed off! Sorry! Dreamin' again.
Must have dozed off! Sorry! Dreamin' again.
To sign McFadden is all for the wrong reasons. We're not signing a player to improve the squad, the quality or make up the numbers (the lad's not even fit!), we're signing a hopeful that should McFadden prove his fitness and chip in with some nice performances, we will sell him for a profit simply to cover the debt. This is the same 'transfer' policy we practiced with O'Neill and Beckford. This is disgraceful by BK, by Moyes going along with it, and sadly to Everton Football Club. Everyone can see this from miles off unbelievable we've fallen this low.
BK looking for 'investment' 24/7 it's these has-been players that get auctioned off every window FFS just FO BK.
BK looking for 'investment' 24/7 it's these has-been players that get auctioned off every window FFS just FO BK.
Evidence, if it were ever needed that the red hand gang will defend our manager's actions, no matter how irrational. McFadden is a poor player who thinks he can beat the whole opposing team - whether in midfield or up front. We also have players on the bench who deserve to be starting. We also have no money to be pissing away. Mind boggling.
With this signing it is now official...Everton Football Club...a once great institution of english football..... are a LAUGHING STOCK...!!
He was fucking awful first time around....now 3 yrs on he is injury prone and hasn't played a game for 13 months...how much fuckin lower can we sink...
I have been told on MANY occassions by Ian Ross that it is THE MANAGER who decides which players we sign not the Chairman...THE MANAGER...so there can be no one else to blame...NO ONE...
For those who did not want to believe it, this signing must surely make them wake up and 'smell the coffee
Davie your time is done...You did your best and brought us a few good times...you dared us to believe you could bring back the glory days....but it's all over now...you have FAILED !!
In Moyes We Trust....really you have got to be kidding...!!
He was fucking awful first time around....now 3 yrs on he is injury prone and hasn't played a game for 13 months...how much fuckin lower can we sink...
I have been told on MANY occassions by Ian Ross that it is THE MANAGER who decides which players we sign not the Chairman...THE MANAGER...so there can be no one else to blame...NO ONE...
For those who did not want to believe it, this signing must surely make them wake up and 'smell the coffee
Davie your time is done...You did your best and brought us a few good times...you dared us to believe you could bring back the glory days....but it's all over now...you have FAILED !!
In Moyes We Trust....really you have got to be kidding...!!
Paul Johnson@113 and 115 - Totally understand your frustration but shouldn't there be 6 g's and 8 h's in that particular spelling ?
Whilst morale is low, I do think it is so terribly important to maintain impeccable spelling standards.
Well I for one have missed getting out of my seat in anticipation as he made a mazy run down the left wing, then sitting down with my head in my hands when he ran it straight out of play.
By the way nice to see Barkley is to sign a long term 5 yr deal in December.....only to be sold in January to the highest bidder I'll wager...!!
Nelly #123, oh ye of little faith, he'll be here at least until the summer.
Cant see the problem with this, if he's shite its only a loan so we can get rid easily, if he's good then he could get us a few goals contribute to the team and he wouldnt of cost us anything!?
Seriously? What the fuck is going on?
This could be Moyes's Gazza/Ginola moment ? a weak-arsed capitulation to Chelsea next week may provide the Boro moment and then a fresh start before the Man Utd game on Saturday.
Let's hope the new man who arrives comes with the same mentality Moyes used to have when he got here (before he became a fucking shithouse), and similarly clean out the shite from the squad and pick a team based purely on hunger and desire to go out and WIN!
If that happens, I will even buy a ticket and come and support us again; otherwise... fuck this for a laugh! I'll go and do something less boring instead.
This could be Moyes's Gazza/Ginola moment ? a weak-arsed capitulation to Chelsea next week may provide the Boro moment and then a fresh start before the Man Utd game on Saturday.
Let's hope the new man who arrives comes with the same mentality Moyes used to have when he got here (before he became a fucking shithouse), and similarly clean out the shite from the squad and pick a team based purely on hunger and desire to go out and WIN!
If that happens, I will even buy a ticket and come and support us again; otherwise... fuck this for a laugh! I'll go and do something less boring instead.
Pathetic Everton... pathetic ? hold your head in shame, be it board, manager and fans.
I guarantee that we will sign no-one in the next window of any note.
McFadden & Hanehmann eat into any wage budget left over after dumping Yakubu, Beckford, Pienaar, Arteta, Vaughan and Turner.
What is the point of Bily, McFadden, and Stracqualursi as they are nowhere near good enough for Premier League? Must be £2 to 3 million in wages which should have been directed on a right-back, playmaker or centre-forward (take your choice as we need all of them).
I guarantee that we will sign no-one in the next window of any note.
McFadden & Hanehmann eat into any wage budget left over after dumping Yakubu, Beckford, Pienaar, Arteta, Vaughan and Turner.
What is the point of Bily, McFadden, and Stracqualursi as they are nowhere near good enough for Premier League? Must be £2 to 3 million in wages which should have been directed on a right-back, playmaker or centre-forward (take your choice as we need all of them).
Strange decision by the lad himself; he was never first choice in his first term, so it's very unlikely that will be any different this time around.
Surely Celtic's interest would have made more sense, where he would get to play every week with the bonus of a Champions League place or play off at the seasons end.
Bizarre.
Surely Celtic's interest would have made more sense, where he would get to play every week with the bonus of a Champions League place or play off at the seasons end.
Bizarre.
Just heard Big Dunc is putting a lock on his pigeon shed and has been seen doing a few streches after speaking to Bill We've Got No Money what are we to do lads ? McFadden we are going backwards !!!
please don't give him the No.9 shirt, please................
Andrew apparentley that was part and parcel of him being prepared to sign.
Lets not kid anyone we have become the laughing stock. Celtic were also in for him but he didnt fancy the bog cleaners job at parkhead. I havent been been able to get my head out of my hands all day.
Can you imagine what a statement of intent this is to the rest of the division. The more I think about it the more I know I am going to inflict some serious damage on my liver tonight, then cry myself to sleep.
Lets not kid anyone we have become the laughing stock. Celtic were also in for him but he didnt fancy the bog cleaners job at parkhead. I havent been been able to get my head out of my hands all day.
Can you imagine what a statement of intent this is to the rest of the division. The more I think about it the more I know I am going to inflict some serious damage on my liver tonight, then cry myself to sleep.
I would imagine that most people would be shocked, surprised, disappointed in this latest fiasco.
Just read the Prentice piece in the rag - I know I shouldn't - another piece of crap. He mentions, in passing, this move smells of desperation. Tell us something we don't know!! Crap journalist from a crap paper.
I've written to him and told him rather than write this shit he should be chasing Moyes and Kenwright and getting answers from them about this and all the other shite!! Might as well speak to a brick wall he's too well in with the establishment to care about the preople he's supposed to represent.
If you've got a spare couple of minutes I would ask you to write in to this prick and ask him what he's actually there for!
Just read the Prentice piece in the rag - I know I shouldn't - another piece of crap. He mentions, in passing, this move smells of desperation. Tell us something we don't know!! Crap journalist from a crap paper.
I've written to him and told him rather than write this shit he should be chasing Moyes and Kenwright and getting answers from them about this and all the other shite!! Might as well speak to a brick wall he's too well in with the establishment to care about the preople he's supposed to represent.
If you've got a spare couple of minutes I would ask you to write in to this prick and ask him what he's actually there for!
Don't worry! He'll play against Fulham and score a hat-trick.
The first will be a replica of the one he got against Charlton and it will go on to win Goal of the Season this time as it should have done then.
The second will be like the 70 yarder he scored against France for Scotland. That will be the runner-up in Goal of the Season.
The third will be a rerun of the 30 yard one-on-one against Middlesborough but this time he will chip it over the goalie instead of passing it into his hands
Then you'll all eat you words.
The first will be a replica of the one he got against Charlton and it will go on to win Goal of the Season this time as it should have done then.
The second will be like the 70 yarder he scored against France for Scotland. That will be the runner-up in Goal of the Season.
The third will be a rerun of the 30 yard one-on-one against Middlesborough but this time he will chip it over the goalie instead of passing it into his hands
Then you'll all eat you words.
Pint of whatever your on Dave should make things better.
Dave, it may well happen, the problem will be that he won't play again for 5 months after pulling up injured.....or worse still, he may play for 5 months....God forbid
Dave, #131
Just funny you mention the distance for the goals JM made. Because it sort of says he's so slow he NEVER makes it to the box area. So every now and then he's lucky and get's a ball inside the net from his shooting posiotion, wich is near the midst of the field.
So. if he gets a lot of playing time and gets lucky one more time it doesn' mean he's a good player. Bily has not as many games as JM had for us, and he's given us more goal pr played minute than JM ever did. I'd much rather see him play more, or Velios or Gueye.
I'm pretty sure I don't have to eat my words..
Just funny you mention the distance for the goals JM made. Because it sort of says he's so slow he NEVER makes it to the box area. So every now and then he's lucky and get's a ball inside the net from his shooting posiotion, wich is near the midst of the field.
So. if he gets a lot of playing time and gets lucky one more time it doesn' mean he's a good player. Bily has not as many games as JM had for us, and he's given us more goal pr played minute than JM ever did. I'd much rather see him play more, or Velios or Gueye.
I'm pretty sure I don't have to eat my words..
When I first heard about McFadden coming back, I was shocked. I couldn't understand why we would want a 28-year-old who has been injured for a year and wasn't even that great in his first spell here (apart from a couple of great goals).
Now I have accepted the fact that we won't be signing anyone much better, unless it's on loan like Drenthe, in January and we might be needing him during the Christmas period knowing our luck with injuries.
Who knows? The guy could come on for the last 15 minutes at Anfield or at home versus Man Utd and score a winner... then we will be hailing his signing as a masterstroke!
Now I have accepted the fact that we won't be signing anyone much better, unless it's on loan like Drenthe, in January and we might be needing him during the Christmas period knowing our luck with injuries.
Who knows? The guy could come on for the last 15 minutes at Anfield or at home versus Man Utd and score a winner... then we will be hailing his signing as a masterstroke!
Just registered to add a bit of positivity to this mostly doom laden site. A little realism needed for some also, I think.
Good luck Faddy. You gave us a few great goals last time. More of that if you get a chance please.
Good luck Faddy. You gave us a few great goals last time. More of that if you get a chance please.
This vindicates my decision, after 50 years, to never go to Goodison again as long as Moyes remains.
I'm embarrassed by this signing. There's a reason McFadden was a free agent; he's shit.
He was a circus act last time he was with us and now he'll be an old circus act.
Of course he "scored a few good goals for us" - he swung his leg out at a few, and the sun has to shine on a dog's ass some days.
I just wonder how much more ridicule Moyes and Kenwright will attract to this once-proud club.
I'm embarrassed by this signing. There's a reason McFadden was a free agent; he's shit.
He was a circus act last time he was with us and now he'll be an old circus act.
Of course he "scored a few good goals for us" - he swung his leg out at a few, and the sun has to shine on a dog's ass some days.
I just wonder how much more ridicule Moyes and Kenwright will attract to this once-proud club.
That's just not true at all Steve Syder. Speak to any Brum fan and they will tell you he was their best player till he got crocked. He's free cos he's a crock, not cos he's shit. Not that that makes it better.
Ian # 107 - Your comments are becoming more bizarre by the minute you would still find something positive to say if Moyes gets us relegated (which is likely) and if Kenwright put us in admisinistration (also likely). You must be a lifecoach mate.
Andrew #123 - Excellent you have summed this up perfectly mate. McFadden may be able to pass a few next year when we wake in the Championship!
Andrew #123 - Excellent you have summed this up perfectly mate. McFadden may be able to pass a few next year when we wake in the Championship!
Steve #141
There's a reason Moyes signed him....he's no fecking money & is just trying to add to the squad ...after 50 years you decide to stop going now?
There's a reason Moyes signed him....he's no fecking money & is just trying to add to the squad ...after 50 years you decide to stop going now?
Unless there is a fire sale in January this is a pointless signing. Is he better than Billy, Magaye, Drenthe?
Butterfield is a positive prospect if we can get him.
Butterfield is a positive prospect if we can get him.
Jesus Christ, the myopic minority blinded by their opinion everything Moyes does is bad are out in force on this thread.
Fact - we have fuck all money.
Fact - McFadden is a low risk signing on a short term deal
Result - Horses fro courses and we have absolutely nothing to lose by signing him.
If he is as shite as everyone thinks then we haven't pissed millions we don't have up the wall on him a la the shite with the porn star lookalike Carroll.
If he scores a few goals or adds a bit of creativity off the bench then we have gained something for the cost of his wages.
By all means use the signing to have a go at Kenwright fr the dact that Moyes is forced to shop in Netto But don't use this signing to have a go a Moyes as per your usual narrow-minded rants.
Fact - we have fuck all money.
Fact - McFadden is a low risk signing on a short term deal
Result - Horses fro courses and we have absolutely nothing to lose by signing him.
If he is as shite as everyone thinks then we haven't pissed millions we don't have up the wall on him a la the shite with the porn star lookalike Carroll.
If he scores a few goals or adds a bit of creativity off the bench then we have gained something for the cost of his wages.
By all means use the signing to have a go at Kenwright fr the dact that Moyes is forced to shop in Netto But don't use this signing to have a go a Moyes as per your usual narrow-minded rants.
Chris #145
The 0.02% are always out in force on this thread...I'm astonished at your astonishment!
The 0.02% are always out in force on this thread...I'm astonished at your astonishment!
read between the lines...
bily is really bad...
strac is really bad...
bily is really bad...
strac is really bad...
James #147
I was starting to think I was the only one who could see the bleeding obvious ..or perhaps it's believe the bleeding obvious?
I was starting to think I was the only one who could see the bleeding obvious ..or perhaps it's believe the bleeding obvious?
"read between the lines...
bily is really bad...
strac is really bad..."
Add another line....
McFadden is really bad...
Three lame ducks is better than two lame ducks?
bily is really bad...
strac is really bad..."
Add another line....
McFadden is really bad...
Three lame ducks is better than two lame ducks?
James #147 two wongs don't make a right
I'm going to stick a tenner on him being our top scorer this season. You never know, he might just have the 5 goals in him which should be more than enough. He's had a nice long break... should be fresh as a daisy.
God help us.
God help us.
Saltwater wells in my eyes!!! The sad thing is I know James is the best our great club can do at the moment. I've got a serious case of "big club signing envy". I cant see the light at the end of the tunnel. Can anybody else?
Fear not Tom... Big Dunc's coming back. No, life's not turned into the Fast Show, coming back as a coach (with no badges)... Again straight face! But to be honest, that's fine with me. Someone with an attacking bone on the coaching staff can only be good.
I've nothing against McFadden as long as he gives Everton his all. We need all the help we can get atm.
As for Moyes he can do one, his boring shit tactics have really pissed me off. Grow a set, Davey, and at least have a go at beating teams!
In Moyes I no longer trust!
As for Moyes he can do one, his boring shit tactics have really pissed me off. Grow a set, Davey, and at least have a go at beating teams!
In Moyes I no longer trust!
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'Jimmy Mac'???? Has there been an invasion of the body snatchers? Weir next ???...
And to all the 'get behinders', the 'Ossie' lovers, the 'Our Timmy' (who hasn't scored a goal in 10 months) crew, this manager has turned out like Captain Ahab in his obsession to be obeyed. No sane manager would consistently repeat his tactics, or refuse to give all those game chomping at the bit lads a go that warm their arses on the bench week-in and week-out (except for the odd 10 mins of course).
I wish all you old guard would WAKE UP. We are being led by the bloody BLIND Tactics we will wait till Champions League before:
1. Heitinga for Jags.
2. Bily behind the striker.
3. Drenthe starts
4. Vellios starts
5. 4-4-2
6. Denis starts.
7. Barkley, Vellios, Saha, Baxter get games...
The configurations are endless: Silva, Conor McAleny, Chris Long (a those who know one) etc. THINK! Which other manager in all the leagues combined wouldn't HAVE A GO at mixing and matching all our new(er) blood???
'Jimmy Mac'???? Has there been an invasion of the body snatchers? Weir next ???...
And to all the 'get behinders', the 'Ossie' lovers, the 'Our Timmy' (who hasn't scored a goal in 10 months) crew, this manager has turned out like Captain Ahab in his obsession to be obeyed. No sane manager would consistently repeat his tactics, or refuse to give all those game chomping at the bit lads a go that warm their arses on the bench week-in and week-out (except for the odd 10 mins of course).
I wish all you old guard would WAKE UP. We are being led by the bloody BLIND Tactics we will wait till Champions League before:
1. Heitinga for Jags.
2. Bily behind the striker.
3. Drenthe starts
4. Vellios starts
5. 4-4-2
6. Denis starts.
7. Barkley, Vellios, Saha, Baxter get games...
The configurations are endless: Silva, Conor McAleny, Chris Long (a those who know one) etc. THINK! Which other manager in all the leagues combined wouldn't HAVE A GO at mixing and matching all our new(er) blood???
I can't see how this is a back-step given the current situation of the club. We all know we are skint and at the end of the day we got £5 million for him and now we're getting him on a free.
Obviously he had some form of quality and possibly still has given that he seems to be over the injury which plagued him for Brum to release him. As the great Doctor Pepper once said "What's the worst that can happen?" It's only a 1-year contract and, at the end of the day, the ball's now in his court to see if he merits a longer contract.
He can only do that by goals or assists at the very least, possibly from the left instead of Osman or Bily because, let's face it, Bily is a pussy when it comes to tackling... and Osman, try as he may, isn't having any joy this season, full-stop.
Let's give him a chance, folks ? it's a free transfer at the end of the day...
Obviously he had some form of quality and possibly still has given that he seems to be over the injury which plagued him for Brum to release him. As the great Doctor Pepper once said "What's the worst that can happen?" It's only a 1-year contract and, at the end of the day, the ball's now in his court to see if he merits a longer contract.
He can only do that by goals or assists at the very least, possibly from the left instead of Osman or Bily because, let's face it, Bily is a pussy when it comes to tackling... and Osman, try as he may, isn't having any joy this season, full-stop.
Let's give him a chance, folks ? it's a free transfer at the end of the day...
This signing smacks of desperation and is reminisant of Wally Smiths days, anyone who thinks this is a positive signing has lost the plot (Moyes!)
why pay wages for the likes of McFadden/Hahnemann? espeically with our finances? I'd be amazed if either plays more than 1 game so its a massive misuse of our meagre resources
and where is he planning on playing McFadden is he doesn play him? left mid? no way? striker? nope he can't play the lone role. Behind the striker? nope Cahill has that position for life it seems.
Moyes OUT
why pay wages for the likes of McFadden/Hahnemann? espeically with our finances? I'd be amazed if either plays more than 1 game so its a massive misuse of our meagre resources
and where is he planning on playing McFadden is he doesn play him? left mid? no way? striker? nope he can't play the lone role. Behind the striker? nope Cahill has that position for life it seems.
Moyes OUT
Ever hear the phrase "beggers can't be choosers"? As much as Moyes's tactics and selection choices at times are frustrating and wrong, can you think of the repercussions if he leaves? I'll tell you: lower morale + average players + no moyes = RELEGATION
I disagree Chris, if we employed the RIGHT manager our players will get a lift and start playing to their potential (we have a better side than most of the Premiership barring the usual top 6)
Moyes is underperforming with the players at his disposal, don't be fooled to believe otherwise
Moyes is underperforming with the players at his disposal, don't be fooled to believe otherwise
We have a group of guys that love Moyes ? I mean Arteta has come out and said Everton have the best atmosphere for any club he's been at, Jags and Bainesy have both declared loyalty to us.
Now in modern football, money talks, so the fact that both these guys have committed themselves long-term has to have some basis of the effect the manager has on their life at Goodison. Even the new talent in the young lad Barkley will sign up with us on a longer contract...
We have also got some top quality 15-year-old on board over much better teams then us and why? Because we have a good setup under age. And you look at 'Seamus Ramos' for example and Moyes has rested him, mentored him in the right way, and now the guy is a great right mid, a game-changer.
In time, this once magnificent club will be restored but as was once said "Rome wasn't built in a day!"
Now in modern football, money talks, so the fact that both these guys have committed themselves long-term has to have some basis of the effect the manager has on their life at Goodison. Even the new talent in the young lad Barkley will sign up with us on a longer contract...
We have also got some top quality 15-year-old on board over much better teams then us and why? Because we have a good setup under age. And you look at 'Seamus Ramos' for example and Moyes has rested him, mentored him in the right way, and now the guy is a great right mid, a game-changer.
In time, this once magnificent club will be restored but as was once said "Rome wasn't built in a day!"
Chris, whose to say morale isent low at this moment amongst the players?
I bet they even get pissed off with the tactics.
I bet they even get pissed off with the tactics.
Just another example of Moyes NOT giving youth and better players a chance.I'm seriously shitting myself at the thought of Mcflappin being our lone striker,something I'm sure is in Moyes's plans.Does anyone really think he will be more of a threat than Vellios or Denis Sracqualursi because I bet he'll be getting the nod ahead of them.Denis might be a good striker but how will we ever know?If Moyes is thinking of the midfield then,again we have better alternatives.Moyes does my head right in,he seems to pick up decent players but refuses to play them until his closest allies get injured.Seems like the dynamic duo want to destroy every Evertonians will and aspirations.I thought that the end of the Smith days were bad but these days I can hardly bring myself to watch Everton.Like all taxi services,Its late but all the same,"Taxi for Moyes".
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