What we need is a bit of skill a bit of flair in the final third. At Goodison Park, the lower teams in the league came, parked the bus, and knicked a goal. Those teams knew, as do we fans, that we don't have that special player to unlock a stubborn defense; so what's needed?
Firstly Pienaar is a must; second, if we get Naismith on a free, I'll not moan about that... but most of all we need a right winger with pace to burn! Every year it's the same, every transfer window is the same... defenders, strikers and workhorses. We need pace, trickery, vision.
If you look at the top teams in world football – Barcelona, Madrid, Man City – it is all built around a top midfield; these teams have the workhorses and the skill... the balance that sets teams to win in any situation. We have the workhorses – all we need is the flair. For me, a top winger and a top playmaker would see us break the top 4 this year.
Do you agree?
Sean McKenna, Posted 03/07/2012 at 16:22:26
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977 Posted 03/07/2012 at 20:01:22
Although Naismith, Pienaar and Cordoza (apparently?!) wouldn't hurt either.
981 Posted 03/07/2012 at 20:19:57
982 Posted 03/07/2012 at 20:27:18
985 Posted 03/07/2012 at 20:40:41
If we had him the last few years we would of finished 4th on at least one occasion.
994 Posted 03/07/2012 at 21:06:48
009 Posted 03/07/2012 at 21:48:11
011 Posted 03/07/2012 at 22:01:57
014 Posted 03/07/2012 at 22:17:22
Reality will be more likes Baines out, Naismith and Pranjic in.
024 Posted 03/07/2012 at 23:20:22
Now, according to "those ITK", Rooney is planning on running down this contract at Man U and returning to Everton on a free when he's 30. So you may get your wish and see him play alongside Jelavic, but as long as Kim Jong Bill is in charge, I'd expect Jelavic to be sold next summer if he has a prolific season. As much as the new TV money may mean an extra £20m revenue, we all know that with the chronic running of the off-field business, coupled with throwing more money at players no-one is after (because if they were they could easily outbid us) we'll still be losing money, and he'll still be waiting for someone to offer £150m for the club.
027 Posted 03/07/2012 at 23:39:41
I think that we will start minus Pienaar but with an unconsidered free or loan signing. Frankly, that will do. If we get by without a major sale it will be a triumph; and that sadly sums it up.
033 Posted 04/07/2012 at 00:41:15
United, City and Celsea; All better in more or less every position.
Spurs, Arsenal; I think we can compete with, however Spurs have Van der Vart, and Arsenal have RVP. Both match winners. I look at this Everton side and I don't see a player who can win a game on his own with a touch of genius. Jelavic is a great finisher, but he couldn't do what RVP does. In my lifetime the closest we've come to one of these IMO were Rooney (when used) and Arteta in 08. If we had one of these type players then I'd agree that we're just as good, if not better than Spurs and Arsenal, but unfortunately we don't.
Liverpool, Newcastle; We are better than Newcastle, of that I have no doubt. Plus they'll drop like a stone with the Europa League midweek. Now the Shite I just can't make my mind up on. They just have that winning mentality (against the big clubs and in the big games at least) that we seem to lack. I'd have put everything I have on us beating them at Wembley this year. More fool me eh?! Deep down I think we have a better overall team. But they just seem to pip us when it matters don't they? Would I fancy us to finish above them again next season. Tough one that.
I do think that we can make up for our lack of individual talent compared to the likes of Arsenal and Spurs though with a good start. If we start well and we're not playing catch up from New Year onwards, who knows?
034 Posted 04/07/2012 at 00:51:09
036 Posted 04/07/2012 at 00:59:21
I actually think that you are dead right about that one special player that can change a match. I think what defines these players, like Van Persie and that Uruguay'n forward that plays for them is that they can both score AND create goals.
In all honesty when I read back on my comment earlier it looks more like drunk optimism than rational thought but I put that down to that we can pretty much beat anybody on our day. Moyes has shortcomings that we are all well aware of but he has one of the best eyes for a player in the game. Either that or he can get the best out of players in the same way Ferguson does. Players become better players at Everton than at other clubs in the same way they do at Utd. I don't know any other Clubs that have this quality. Spurs and Pienaar is a good example.
For arguments sake if we say' kept our current players and bought Donovan(yawn), Pienaar and another striker, like Newcastle did with Ba on a free then I think we would make Champions league.
037 Posted 04/07/2012 at 01:21:51
055 Posted 04/07/2012 at 08:37:49
Realistically, we'd all go mad and claiming he Moyes had lost it if he toured the club were going to buy TWO thirty year olds for the team but now we're suggesting them ourselves!!
I rate both Pienaar and Donovan but wonder whether we'd be throwing away what little money we have on players who won't get any better and certainly won't go up on value in a resale.
If they came on, I'd be happy and back them. What we really need are a mid 20's winger and a better right back. That'd see us improve immensely.
067 Posted 04/07/2012 at 09:42:29
I think the squad is good enough to not have to buy 3.. get one exciting real prospect... (oh plus Donovan).. shit now I'm confused... we need width... so does that undermine the theory?
070 Posted 04/07/2012 at 09:35:39
Having one or two players who can control, turn and pass a ball is easily dealt with.
We need a change of philosophy not just a winger, neither of which are on the agenda.
088 Posted 04/07/2012 at 11:24:33
102 Posted 04/07/2012 at 13:12:54
105 Posted 04/07/2012 at 13:08:26
The players you need have to be quick minded so they can anticpate the tackles and play the one,twos to get out of trouble.
Sometimes it is only a split second difference but Spain have it off to a fine art.
Everton,and many other clubs do not have that kind of expertise.
106 Posted 04/07/2012 at 13:22:04
Arsenal and Spurs we could maybe compete with over the course of weeks and months but not a whole season. They debateably have better starting lineups and undoubtedly have better squads. If RVP gets injured they have Podolski, Giroud and Gervinho to bring on. If Modric gets injured they have the likes of Van der vaart, and Pienaar (!) to bring on. If Jelavic gets injured we have...anichebe (or possibly Naismith now)
Purchasing power is, like it or not, a big deal. Arsenal have already splashed around 20m with other moves lined up and papers estimate AVB will have anything between 20m-50m to spend with realistic targets such as Moutinho.
Newcsatle have a decent team but not much more money than us and Liverpool have a semi-decent team and lots more money to spend than us.
I'm excited by this season and our team but even with my blue glasses on when I look around at the competition (and their transfer spending/targets) I feel that top 4 is surely a pipe dream. If Moyes could have 20m or more to spend (like our rivals) then I really think we could compete but while we are dwarfed in spending off the pitch I think we will struggle to keep up over the course of an entire season on the pitch
109 Posted 04/07/2012 at 13:36:23
Back in the real world his priorities probably are:
Replacements for any leavers i.e. Baines goes, get a left back
It may be that we only see either a forward or a right mid rather than both.
I can see Everton playing with one of the youger centre mid lads playing out on the right more often. I don't like it but at least they would be getting a game.
110 Posted 04/07/2012 at 13:49:35
I'm not going to start saying that this could get us into the top 4, but it I think it would at least get us a step closer.
126 Posted 04/07/2012 at 16:34:10
233 Posted 05/07/2012 at 12:27:57
The two best options are Hoillett but apparetly his wage demands are over the top, and Narsingh of Heerenveen.
He went with the dutch squad to the Euros but was behind Robben in the pecking order. I've only seen highlights of him, but he has pace to burn and got the most assists in the league last year (putting most of them on a plate for Dost by the looks of things). He is only 22 and available for abou £4 mil (Ajax and PSV are currently battling for his signature). He is what we need, at the right age, at the right pace. Reports also say Moyes has been to see him on more than one occasion. I've got my fingers crossed.
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