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Moyes's best all-time 11

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The imminent departure of Tim Cahill seems to have finished off one cycle of Everton under David Moyes and will hopefully (for some) herald the beginning of a new one with names such as Gibson, Naismith, Rodwell and Barkley replacing the heroes of yesteryear such as Arteta, Carsley, Cahill and Lescott.

This begs the question: What do you think is Moyes's best 11 out of the first 10 years?

It has to be realistic; you can't have Rooney and Cahill in the hole behind Jelavic and Yakubu. Equally, it has to be a team Moyes would actually play so back 3s or 5s are also discounted. If they were all together in their prime, what would Moyes's team look like? Mine is heavily slanted towards the 2007-08 vintage which I consider to be the zenith of Moyes's first cycle with some obvious additions that can't be overlooked.

Martyn
Hibbert, Jagielka, Lescott, Baines
Carsley
Arteta, Osman, Cahill, Pienaar
Jelavic

I'm sure everyone's will differ but I think if Moyes had all his players in their prime then this might be close to his favourtie team and formation, obviously with Cahill pushing on, Osman dropping in besides Carsley. Or is that perhaps just borne from my desire to see us playing with just one holding midfielder, like we did in 2004-05? – rather than the two that we do now... which all too often make up a back 6.

James Martin, Liverpool     Posted 25/07/2012 at 14:25:56

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Mark Tanton
900  Posted 25/07/2012 at 15:08:47
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No Gravesen? What about Radsinski? I'd have to find positions for those two players I think...
John Crook
901  Posted 25/07/2012 at 15:04:56
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Martyn
Neville Heitinga Lescott Baines
Fellani
Arteta Gravesen Pienaar
Rooney
Jelavic

Howard Jagielka Cahill Yakubu (the on form one) Osman (the on form one)
Carsley Hibbert and Donovan

Kris Boner
902  Posted 25/07/2012 at 15:11:14
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Back five are the choice partnerships. Fellaini would make my team any day, and there would be now removing Rooney from the team.

4-2-3-1 With Cahill arriving late and acting as a recycling midfielder rather than a ball winner. Bit of aerial ability ahead of the back four as well.

Martyn
Hibbert-Jagielka-Lescott-Baines
Fellaini-Cahill
Arteta-Rooney-Pienaar
Jelavic

Chris Wright
903  Posted 25/07/2012 at 15:13:11
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I'd probably have to have Fellaini instead of Osman, and I'd be tempted with Heitinga rather than Jags but other than that can't really argue. As for Gravesen and Radzinski, no chance, they'd get no where near. I would also look to have Rooney in somewhere, he was brilliant for us.
Brian Keating
906  Posted 25/07/2012 at 15:21:07
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Rooney has to be in there, the best player to play for the club in the last 20 years, maybe longer.

I pretty much agree with this:

Martyn
Hibbert-Jagielka-Lescott-Baines
Fellaini-Cahill
Arteta-Rooney-Pienaar
Jelavic

Although a pre achilles injury Yakubu would edge out Jelavic.

Jim Knightley
909  Posted 25/07/2012 at 15:26:26
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Howard,
Hibbert-Jags-Lescott-Baines-
Arteta-Fellaini-Gravesen-Pienarr
Cahill-Rooney (because I like an extra midfielder, so Cahill instead of Jelavic)

Would be a Champions League team..if only we could have them all at once :D

James Martin
911  Posted 25/07/2012 at 15:34:10
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I always forget Rooney, it seems so long ago that I never really count him as ever being ours. Him and Jelavic would have been a partnership to get excited about no question.
James Morgan
912  Posted 25/07/2012 at 15:26:45
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Martyn
Hibbert Jagielka Lescott Baines
Arteta Fellaini Carlsey Pienaar
Cahill
Rooney

Lescott just pips Distin for his decent goal return and Jagielka's consistency over a number of years just outdoes Heitinga. I think Jelavic will work his way in over the next couple of years, providing we keep him.

Matt Traynor
913  Posted 25/07/2012 at 15:25:37
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Using all signings of his (so no Rooney et al), either on loan or permanent, and all made the squad in at least 1 game (I think).

Espen Baardsen
Lars Jacobsen, Li Wei Feng, Per Kroldrup, Guillame Plessis
Andy van der Meyde, Le Tie, Juliano Rodrigo, Segundo Castillo,
Scott Spencer, Francis Jeffers
Subs: Richard Wright, Ibrahim Saeed, Philippe Senderos, Matteo Ferrari, Anderson da Silva, Jo Alves, Simon Davies

Some tough decisions actually - Baardsen over Wright will be controversial. Kroldrup gets in ahead of Saeed as at least he played a game (0-4 away at Villa) whereas I don't think Saeed ever got off the bench.

Roberto Birquet
914  Posted 25/07/2012 at 15:37:50
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Martyn
Neville, Heitinga, Lescott, Baines
Carsley
Arteta, Fellaini, Cahill, Pienaar
Jelavic

I might otherwise put Rooney instead of Cahill. But like, James 911, I hardly think of him as one of ours, especially the way he forced his own exit after barely two years ato the club.

Roberto Birquet
915  Posted 25/07/2012 at 15:40:51
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Juliano Rodrigo looked quality. What a damned waste.
Saeed? He passed me by....
Keith Glazzard
922  Posted 25/07/2012 at 15:21:03
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Nice one James - and not just because Tim's moving on, but after a decade it's a fair question. I think you've read the great man's mind fairly accurately with your line-up. Except for Fellaini. I think Moyes would make the possible sale of Marouane (unless he'd put in a transfer request) a resigning issue.

And I would agree with him. We have seen the Big Fella develop from prospect to the genuine article. There are many excellent midfielders in Europe - he's one of them.

Leighton picks himself as a creative, attacking player who, incidentally, has recently become a good defender too - Hibbo's still doing it the other way round. But some of my best moments watching football have been seeing, Pienaar, Fellaini and Baines worming their way through two lines of defenders. I won't say a bit like Barcelona, but I just did.

And in the Moyes era, there has to be an honorable mention for Marcus Bent. The one. As in 4-5-1, the loneliest man in football. He did trojan work for us as we once more became a team to be reckoned with. Nicica Jelavic has all of his qualities - plus quite a lot more - but we wouldn't be where we are now without the effort Marcus put in for us.

Kris Boner
926  Posted 25/07/2012 at 16:32:29
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I personally liked Segundo, who scored a cracker in the UEFA cup for us which I still remember from all those years ago.

Also I will never forgive AVDM for the brilliant cross he put on for Gosling to score against the shite in the FA Cup. Terrible career at Everton lit up by one moment I will never, ever forget.

Joe McMahon
930  Posted 25/07/2012 at 16:57:40
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In Moyes Mind:
Howard
Hibbert Stubbs Weir G Naysmith
Nev Carsley Jags Osman
Cahill
Bent (or anyone that can manage on their own)
Ian Bennett
939  Posted 25/07/2012 at 17:23:53
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The team is that good, it could play 3-5-2 with Landon playing a wingback role on the right. A good work ethic and good players make a good side.

Martyn

Lescott
Heitinga
Baines

Donovan
Fellaini
Cahill
Arteta
Pienaar

Rooney
Jelavic

Philip Roberts
941  Posted 25/07/2012 at 17:33:07
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Martyn,
Watson, Heitinga, Lescott, Baines,
Arteta, Fellaini, Gravesen, Pienaar,
Rooney, Ferguson.
Leighton Cooper
945  Posted 25/07/2012 at 17:32:40
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Martyn
Hibbert Jagielka Lescott Baines
Carlsey
Arteta Fellaini Pienaar
Cahill
Rooney
Roberto Birquet
950  Posted 25/07/2012 at 18:04:22
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Joe McMahon
Moyes is on record as saying N Martyn was his best ever buy. So I think that defeats your cheap shot at him.
Chris Davies
951  Posted 25/07/2012 at 18:03:44
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Richard Wright
Tony Hibbert, Per Krøldrup, Davie Weir, Nuno Valente
Scott Gemmil, Mark Pembridge, Simon Davies, Kevin Kilbane,
James McFadden, Marcus Bent

Champions League material...

James Stewart
957  Posted 25/07/2012 at 18:33:47
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If you are choosing everybody at their peak then its pretty easy.
______________________Martyn
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Neville _________Jageilka___ Lescott ________Baines
________________________________________________________________

Donovan ________Fellaini___Gravesen ______Pienaar

_______________________Cahill______________________
_______________________Rooney

James Cadwaladr
960  Posted 25/07/2012 at 19:00:33
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Martyn

Neville
Heitinga
Lescott
Baines

Carsley
Fellaini

Arteta
Cahill
Pienaar

Jelavic

Howard, Jagielka, Hibbert, Donovan, Rooney, Osman, Yakubu

Philip Roberts
968  Posted 25/07/2012 at 19:18:03
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Martyn

Watson
Heitinga
Lescott
Baines

Arteta
Gravesen
Fellaini
Pienaar

Rooney
Ferguson

Peter Hall
971  Posted 25/07/2012 at 19:28:02
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Anyone who doesn't pick Rooney here is a self-confessed nutcase, he is so far ahead of any other player who has played under Moyes. Love him or hate him, it's obvious. God help us if any of those people actually picked our team!
Jon Ferguson
973  Posted 25/07/2012 at 18:55:13
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Ian 939- Donavon wing back? Baines centre back? Come on! I'm glad you're not manager!

Martyn
Neville Jagielka Lescott Baines
Arteta Carsley Felliani Pienaar
Rooney
Jelavic

Andy Crooks
978  Posted 25/07/2012 at 19:35:50
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Peter, Rooney should be in the greatest ever Everton team never mind Moyes's team. He doesn't come across well but if we had him and Jelavic starting the season I would be moderately optimistic.
Dennis Stevens
982  Posted 25/07/2012 at 19:44:01
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..................Martyn
Hibbert Heitinga Lescott Baines
.................Carsley
Arteta Fellaini Cahill Pienaar
.................Rooney

Subs from Howard Neville Valente Unsworth Jagielka Distin Yobo Stubbs Weir Gravesen Osman Bent Yakubu Johnson Jelavic Ferguson

Mike Powell
987  Posted 25/07/2012 at 20:06:39
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Martyn
Neville Jagielka Lescott Baines
Arteta Fellaini Gravesen Pienaar
Cahill Ferguson

Subs: Jelavic Unsworth Carsley Donovan Howard

(I would not even let Rooney clean their boots)
David Chait
992  Posted 25/07/2012 at 20:40:20
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Tougher than I thought but my favorite 11:
........Martyn......
Neville.....Heitinga....Lescott.....Baines
..........Fellaini.......
Donovan.... Arteta....Pienaar...
.........Rooney.....
...............Jelavic......

The ball playing skills from back to front.... The potential of that 11 is ridiculous.

Graham Mockford
997  Posted 25/07/2012 at 20:54:31
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I think there are seven absolute shoe ins

Martyn
Baines
Lescott
Arteta
Pienaar
Fellaini
Rooney

My other four would be

Neville (captain)
Heitinga
Donovan
Cahill

Ian Bennett
000  Posted 25/07/2012 at 21:07:58
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Jon 973 - when did I say Baines was a centre back. Carsley, Neville??? Given what limited defending my pressing all-star side would do, Donovan gets the job for the right-hand side.

My highly adaptive side morphs into many different formations to cut through sides at will. I see you're still with 4-4-2, radical man. Must be great still watching football in black and white. Go on, Jon, think of more than just the missionary position.

Kevin Day
004  Posted 25/07/2012 at 21:52:28
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There is one player that keeps popping up in quite alot in peoples best 11, and that is Hibbert, for the amount of stick he receives on here, you have all leaned towards him, I know your all going to say there hasn't been much too chose from, but the fact that he has kept the right back slot his own speaks volumes about the guy.
Paul Mackie
008  Posted 25/07/2012 at 22:07:29
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Martyn
Hibbert Jagielka Lescott Baines
Donovan Arteta Fellaini Pienaar
Rooney
Jelavic

Even I could win something with that team.

Bobby Thomas
009  Posted 25/07/2012 at 22:08:39
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David Chait, squad game these days and all that, but imo that team would be good enough to have a dart at the league.
James Flynn
012  Posted 25/07/2012 at 22:34:53
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Enjoyed reading all this. But Paul Mackie's selection? God, we'd be tearing opponents apart.
Mike Allison
015  Posted 25/07/2012 at 22:44:51
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David Chait at 992 has picked my team already I think. Yakubu might have made it in but we saw too much shite from him as well that Jelavic isn't guilty of yet. The fact that Neville gets in at right back shows we've never had a decent right back.
Ian Bennett
016  Posted 25/07/2012 at 22:40:38
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Bobby its my side only he's messed up and put Neville at right back instead of going for the juggler with cahill, in an assymetric 3-5-2. I ve got to get Tim in for another 15 goals a season and some dirty tackles, and a couple of headers against the rs.
Tom Bowers
021  Posted 25/07/2012 at 23:29:13
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The fact that Hibbert is in most team selections means little except to say that Moyes never really had a replacement in reserve except Pip, especially when Moyes decided to deploy Coleman as a wing back.

Personally I think Pip was a better player but showing his age as a full back. Donovan should be excluded as he has only been a loanee and only for less than a total season.
Harj Badwal
022  Posted 25/07/2012 at 23:35:14
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Alex Nyarko? Anyone?
Andy Crooks
023  Posted 25/07/2012 at 23:21:42
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This is an excellent thread, it seems to me that David Moyes has had a pretty good selection at his disposal and ,to be fair to him, he has played a good part in creating that selection.

Here's a thought, though. Try picking a best Walter Smith eleven and look at what he had to work with. The man who suggested Moyes to Kenwright has been the most under rated figure at Goodison Park in thirty years.

I would suggest that Walter Smith kept Everton afloat in times that were much more testing than those faced by David Moyes. In my opinion, Walter Smith was the most important Evertonian since Harry Catterick. He saw us through the darkest days in the history of our club.

Bobby Thomas
026  Posted 25/07/2012 at 23:33:37
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Ian

Is Lescott playing right sided centre half?!?! Baines, insanely, left sided centre half?!?! Donovan wing back!!!

All good players you've tried to cram in there but its a bit mad old bean!!

John Ford
028  Posted 25/07/2012 at 23:40:41
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Andy, I'm not convinced Walter didn't contribute significantly to those dark days. Money was more evenly distributed then, albeit things had just started to get top-heavy. So theoretically at least we should perhaps have been competing better. It was period of decidedly dodgy signings.
John Ford
029  Posted 25/07/2012 at 23:45:38
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Tommy (circa 04/05) and ten others.


.....for a short period he was the complete midfielder, no-one could touch him. Then Madrid called.

Bobby Thomas
031  Posted 25/07/2012 at 23:52:41
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You know what theres a reasonable team in there somewhere for Walter, plenty of shite as well.

Plenty of centre halfs, Richard Gough was IMMENSE in his first season, Marco(!), Michael Ball, Dunne, Stubbs, Unsy for pens, Weir who was around £250k?

You got the Hutch, although Kendall took him and Walter did bomb him out disgracefully, something going on there like he was our best player and we got about £2 million, badly treated was the Hutch.

The Kevin Campbell & Jeffers, partnership, The Rad. The Big Man. John Collins should provoke some debate, it never really happened for me, his best days had gone.

Not forgetting Pembo, naturally.

I fucking hated Paul Gerrard.

Andrew James
032  Posted 25/07/2012 at 23:50:04
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Andy – you’ve put the cat amongst the pigeons with that shout for Walter… Sorry, I cannot agree. His first budget was way better than anything Moyes has ever had. He was allowed to go out and confidently invest. Yes, he was forced to sell players subsequently but his signings were mostly poor: Collins, Nyarko, Gascoigne, Alexandersson, Blomquist, The Rad…

His brand of 70 mins football landed us in the mire that was the relegation battle of 1999. His signing of Campbell, combined with the fortune of Jeffers coming through, got us off the hook but Walter did not get us through harder times than Moyes has had to face.

Under the current regime, we didn’t spend any money on a player above £1 million for roughly two seasons during 2009-11 (Gueye being that player) whilst Chelsea, City and Liverpool were switching tens of millions around the place in every transfer window. Walter was sacked before the craziness.
Bobby Thomas
034  Posted 26/07/2012 at 00:04:18
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Fucking Barmby and Abel "Peter Sutcliffe in negative" Xavier.

Fran Mitchell
042  Posted 26/07/2012 at 00:54:53
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Best Players:

Martyn
Baines Heitinga Lescott Neville
Fellaini Arteta
Donovan Rooney Pienaar
Jelavic


Relative to what they achieved with us:

Martyn
Baines Jagielka Lescott (best partnership I've seen for the club) Neville
Fellaini Carsley
Pienaar Cahill Arteta
Yakubu (year 1)

Keith Glazzard
043  Posted 26/07/2012 at 00:57:04
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I've said this before - even in the bad years, EFC has always had a few good players, some great players, but hasn't always had the team to support them. The comparison between Moyes and Smith makes this point - one bad year and too many slow starts for DM, but nothing like the last day of the season fucking relief that we suffered under Walter. That's what we get from Davey - good teams.

Tony Hibbert has played more European games for EFC than anyone else. Colin Harvey should have done. Peter Reid should have done. History was against them. But Hibbo holds the record, and that says loads about the Moyes years. No trophies we know, but we haven't given up yet.

So DM's Everton is more like a Volvo than a Ferrari, and with all the riches of Araby I doubt that it would be very different. But there are some great names in this thread, and they have produced some great times for us in the last ten years. In Moyes we trust, and at the moment my heart belongs to Jelavic. If he really is our future, we have a good one.

ps - Hibbo's first goal has to be the one that sends the RS into terminal decline. We can then all queue up for his second testimonial.

Dennis Stevens
044  Posted 26/07/2012 at 01:33:30
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Of course, although initially given some cash to splash, Smith then had to recoup it all & I'm sure I recall reading somewhere that he pretty well broke even on transfers over the course of his tenure. All too often though he seemed to be selling off talented youngsters in order to bring overpriced players who often failed to deliver.

..........................Myhre
Watson Gough Ball Unsworth
Hutchison Gravesen Dacourt Barmby
.................Ferguson Campbell

Dennis Stevens
048  Posted 26/07/2012 at 02:11:43
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A more reasonable comparison with Moyes 10 years might be the previous 10 years, for which my selection would be:

......................Southall
Snodin Watson Keown Hinchcliffe
Kanchelskis Parkinson Speed Limpar
.............Beardsley Ferguson
Anto Byrne
051  Posted 26/07/2012 at 01:00:06
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No room for Alan Stubbs or Davy Weir? Rooney for sure but wasn't in his prime with us.

Neville over Hibbert and Lee Carsley or Gibson? A lot of good players... very few world class. Yakubu the exception on his day and proved he can still score 20 with Blackburn in a very poor team.

I wonder how a Jelavic and Yak partnership would have turned out? It's all academic but Arteta figures in all line ups and would be the best player over Moyes's time here.
Mick Davies
053  Posted 26/07/2012 at 03:09:51
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Ha ha, how many have put Hibbert in there? No wonder we've won fuck all under Moyes if he's the best RB. How about Neville, Jacobsen or even Li Wei Feng? Even though he only played there for about 35 mins in a League Cup tie.
Tony Rice
054  Posted 26/07/2012 at 03:43:27
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Cahill would make the bench of my All Time EFC XI.....
Daniel Hutchinson
055  Posted 26/07/2012 at 03:59:37
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Martyn
Watson Heitinga Distin Baines
Arteta Fellaini Cahill Pienaar
Rooney Ferguson

Bench: Howard Neville Jagielka Hibbert Osman Donovan Jelavic

Keith Glazzard
057  Posted 26/07/2012 at 03:28:08
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Dennis - a very good selection (and that's the term they use here in Spain to refer to the national team, quite rightly in my opinion). And you've made my point for me - great players, but too often not in great teams.

Mick - my seat in the Paddock gives me a perfect view of Baines' attacking skills and Hibbo's defensive skills. Tricky, pacy wingers, they come and you think OMG, then they have to get past eye on the ball, mobile and quick full back. Not many scores from that position.

He's a model pro - bricks and mortar. OK, I wish he was Fred Astaire as well. Would Gary Stevens - who played in what became a very great team - have done better?

The great thing about Hibbo is that as an old pro he is still improving. We don't see that too often.


Ryan Rosenberg
074  Posted 26/07/2012 at 08:13:29
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I've been supporting since 07/08 so based on that I will say:

Howard
Neville Jagielka Lescott Baines
Donovan Arteta Fellaini Pienaar
Cahill
Saha

Leung Chi Ho
076  Posted 26/07/2012 at 08:24:27
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Howard

Hibbo Jags Lescott Baines

Felli

Donovan Arteta Pienaar

Cahill

Yak

I think Rooney did not suit the lone stirker role in our system and Yak 1st year was king.
Jelavic only play 4 months for us and still has to prove he can keep his consistency.

Don't know if Rooney can fit in the 'Cahill' role, but the 'Cahill' role is what make Cahill legend.


In this team, everyone but Hibbo can score. If we need attack, Lescott and Felli can add extra aerial threat to opponent; in corner and free kick, we have Baines and Arteta.

And I think Donovan is the best right midfield in Moyes era, he never let us down.
The Pienaar - Baines left side is awesome too.

Anthony Martin
077  Posted 26/07/2012 at 08:35:12
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Great post that will no doubt have many blues scratching their heads putting together a hypothectical Everton XI together.

I cant believe that I am saying this but Jelavic has only played 16 games ( I think) which is kinda disrespecatble to the likes of Big Dunc, Campbell who battled for the blues over all the calandar seasons living off scraps in poorer sides. I also think Rooney is not worthy of a mention, more yellows than goals and a talented lad who sold his soul.

Midfield is very competitive in this selection, the intricate passing and occasional flair of the likes of Felliani, Arteta and Cahill or the robust no nonesense approach of Gravesen and Carsley, width has always seemed to be a quality we have lacked throughout Moyes reign a part from Pienaar and dare I say Blomquist who felt the full force of Moyes authority in his opening few games as manager.

Defence has very little debates with Jags and Lescott flanked either side Hibbert and Baines.

Which leaves the last position of a GK, blessed with two good keepers but I think Howard gets the nod due to coming to Everton with his best years still ahead off him.

Good loan players that have made a good impact could easily become a second Everton XI with McBride ,Landan Arteta and Pienaar featuring (shit boss is in the office trying look busy better go)

" yes boss got that report just printing it off now"

David Ellis
082  Posted 26/07/2012 at 09:29:20
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Anyone who says this is easy is not trying hard enough
Keeper - Martyn
RB - Neville
CB - Jagielka
CB - Lescott (Distin/Heitinga all very close for these two
LB - Baines
RM - Arteta
DCM - Fellaini
CM - Gravesen
ACM - Cahill
LM - Pienaar
S - Rooney
David Ellis
083  Posted 26/07/2012 at 09:29:20
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Anyone who says this is easy is not trying hard enough
Keeper - Martyn
RB - Neville
CB - Jagielka
CB - Lescott (Distin/Heitinga all very close for these two
LB - Baines
RM - Arteta
DCM - Fellaini
CM - Gravesen
ACM - Cahill
LM - Pienaar
S - Rooney
Chris Davies
088  Posted 26/07/2012 at 09:35:34
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So glad to see Oliver Dacourt's name in that Walter line up (I can't remember who to give credit to).

I remember watching him at Villa park once.. He shielded the ball, beat 3 players, looked up, saw no-one (because he was playing with a load of shite), turned again, looked up again,.. still no-one, gave up and hoofed it towards the corner flag!

Great player in a shocking side. However I seem to remember we had 10 men that day though so I should go easy on the lads.

Great thread btw

My real Moyes team..

Martyn
Hibbert Jags Lescott Baines
Fella
Donovan Arteta Pienarr
Rooney
Jelavić

Chris Regan
091  Posted 26/07/2012 at 10:03:02
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Christ! For all the chop and change over the years Hibbert has been there all the time at right doin an average job. Neville sometimes fills in, but I seem to remember Yobo filling in there once an doin a better job.

Perhaps a post on which right back we should get in to fill Hibbo's place. The lad in the academy is doin well but I cant remeber his name.

One pre-Moyes player I would always have is Kanchelskis.

Aside from that this is roughly my team

Martyn
Hibbert Jags Lescott Baines
Fellaini Donovan Arteta Pienar
Cahill
Jelaviæ

Similar to Chris Davies, but I never could warm to Rooney

Ian Bennett
096  Posted 26/07/2012 at 11:17:31
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Bobby - Fluid, not mad.


Martyn
Heitinga Lescott Baines.
Donovan Arteta Fellaini Pienaar Cahill
Rooney Jelavic

Ian Bennett
097  Posted 26/07/2012 at 11:22:19
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i give up - looked great on screen.
John Sankey
098  Posted 26/07/2012 at 12:11:58
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Martyn

Hibbert, Heitinga, Lescott, Baines

Donovan, Fellaini, Cahill, Arteta

Rooney

Jelavic

Dave Southon
099  Posted 26/07/2012 at 12:25:52
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Being optimistic, this season's 11 will be his best.

GK: Howard
RB: Hibbert
LB: Baines
CB: Heitinga
CB: Jagielka
RM: Osman
LM: Pienaar - fingers crossed
CM: Fellaini
CM: Gibson
AM: Naismith
CF: Jelavic

Subs
Mucha
Distin
Rodwell
Barkley
Neville
Junior
Vellios

Ryan Holroyd
102  Posted 26/07/2012 at 12:53:58
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I think Naismith may play on the right of midfield cutting in.
Ray Roche
103  Posted 26/07/2012 at 13:01:03
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Chris Regan, Joe Royle signed Kanchelskis.
Chris Davies
104  Posted 26/07/2012 at 13:06:26
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Ian Bennett,
I know the original post said to be realistic and think like Moyes but come on,..
Ten at back and the keeper is a bit far, surely.
Ben Jones
110  Posted 26/07/2012 at 14:38:22
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It depends with what you mean by the best.

Its clear Rooney is better than Jelavic and Yakubu as players now and over the past few years. But was Rooney better than them when he was at Everton? Not at all in my opinion.

So my team would be,

Martyn
Watson, Jagielka, Lescott, Baines
Arteta, Fellaini, Carsley, Pienaar
Cahill
Yakubu

People seem to forget Yakubu before his injury was awesome, over 20 goals a season. I hope Jelavic can do the same next season.

Carsley over Gravesen and Osman because he has been so consistent, more so than Osman.

David Ellis
124  Posted 26/07/2012 at 15:48:52
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Gravesen at his prime was the best midfielder we have had, with the possible exception of Arteta and closely followed by Fellaini. But I think there is room for all 3 of them and Cahill and Pienaar.

It means putting Arteta on the right flank, which might be a bit of a waste but in a side of htis quality it makes sense. I remember him and Pienaar regularly swapping flanks one season when we had Carsley in the middle doing the grafting, It worked very well.

David Ellis
125  Posted 26/07/2012 at 15:55:03
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Rooney - remember he was an Everton player during the Euros in 2004. He has never performed to the same level since at international level. The boy was solid gold.
Vinod Kumar
141  Posted 26/07/2012 at 17:09:43
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Spot on David Chait! That would be my best all-time 11 as well. But recognition should go to Yak, Cahill and Graveson, so these three would be my super-subs. A special mention to Chris Davies side.

Over the years we have had many players who were brought just to be covers. Senderos, Mucha, Lars Jacobsen, Van de Meyde, Castillo, Graveson(2007-2008), Lucas Neill and Nuno Valente all had few playing time, but added valuable depth to an injury-prone squad. But one player who really stood out as the best in this mix must be Valente. He wasn't 100% fit when he came to everton. He was class at Porto, so I was happy that Moyes brought him to Everton and made him compete with Naysmith play left-back when we had two players called Lescott and Baines still fighting for the left flank. He didn't had any star-studded performance, but mostly decent games, but he stuck to the task. Most importantly, during his final season, he starred in two high-scoring matches. The 7-1 massacre of Sunderland and the 6-1 uefa win over SK Brann clearly states the importance of him. And thanks to Chris for giving credit to Valente.

Peter Warren
159  Posted 26/07/2012 at 20:07:24
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Martyn
Watson Weir Lescott Baines
Donovan Arteta Fellaini Pienaar
Rooney Jelavic

Subs: Howard Neville Gravesen Cahill Yakubu

Nathan O'Hagan
176  Posted 26/07/2012 at 21:34:39
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As this is a 'Moyes' 11, i'll only include players DM has actually signed, so no Graveson, Osman, Hibbert, Carsley, at least 1 or 2 of whom would have made my 11, and they would all have been in the squad.

Martyn
Neville Jags Lescott Baines
Fellaini Arteta
Donovan Cahill Piennar
Jelavich

Subs- Howard, Yakubu, Saha (when on form) Distin, Coleman

I know Donovan was only with us for 2 short periods, but i've included him simply because he's exactly the type of player we'd need in that position- pacy, clever and can pick a pass. If we'd had him full time he would have been a quality player for us. I doubt many of you would disagree with the rest of the team, with the possible exception of neville at RB. Lescott gets in ahead of Distin because him and Jags were a fantastic partnership, and he had the added value of scoring goals too.

Domino Darkley
193  Posted 27/07/2012 at 00:16:32
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Howard

Neville
Jagielka
Lescott
Baines

Donovan
Arteta
Pienaar

Rooney

Jelavic

Jem Traynor
225  Posted 27/07/2012 at 05:54:43
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Kieth Glazzard #043,
Excellently put I couldn't agree more...

Martyn.
Hibbert, Jagielka, Heitinga, Baines.
Arteta, Osman, Fellaini, Pienaar.
Rooney.
Jelavic.

Jem Traynor
226  Posted 27/07/2012 at 06:36:49
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To anyone giving Rooney down the banks....

His life was made a living hell by the obvious crowd who couldn't bare the fact we had a Top Top young talent who loved the Blues and thus carried out a slander and intimidation game on the kid, scumbags do that stuff to each other, and Everton having the kind of talent that would have made Nobhead Fowler look like a GK and a crap one became all too much for them, I think he did the right thing and we all still wait in for the day when we are looking over our shoulder's that them once more, times are better now though and I hope they keep progressing. COYBB!!!

Jem Traynor
227  Posted 27/07/2012 at 06:36:49
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To anyone giving Rooney down the banks....

His life was made a living hell by the obvious crowd who couldn't bare the fact we had a Top Top young talent who loved the Blues and thus carried out a slander and intimidation game on the kid. Scumbags do that stuff to each other, and Everton having the kind of talent that would have made Nobhead Fowler look like a GK and a crap one became all too much for them.

I think he did the right thing and we all still wait in for the day when we are looking over our shoulders at them once more. times are better now though and I hope they keep progressing. COYBB!!!

Andy Corrie
228  Posted 27/07/2012 at 06:49:29
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Hibbert and Osman??
Jem Traynor
268  Posted 27/07/2012 at 11:47:51
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The Haunted House, By Hugo First....
Jason Heng
284  Posted 27/07/2012 at 12:21:38
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Best 11 budget players signed by Moyes (below 2million pounds or on loan)

Martyn,
Neill,
Valente,
Duffy,
Stubbs,

Gibson,
Arteta,
Donovan,
Pienaar,

Cahill,
Saha

Terry Smith
286  Posted 27/07/2012 at 12:40:24
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----------------------------Martyn---------------------------------
Neville --------Jagielka-------------Distin----------Baines

Donovan---------Fellaini-----------Arteta----------Pienaar

------------------------------Cahill------------------------------
-----------------------------Jelavic----------------------------

Subs: Howard, Hibbert, Osman, Yakubu, Coleman

Jason Heng
289  Posted 27/07/2012 at 12:43:23
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Best 11 "luxury" players (above 3 million pounds) purchased by Moyes:

Howard,
Neville,
Baines,
Lescott,
Jagielka,

Fellaini,
Heitnga,
Bilyaletdinov,
Johnson,

Jelavic,
Yakubu,


Subs (i.e. the only other players in this category):
Yobo,
Distin,
, Krøldrup,
Davies,
Beattie,

It is fairly clear from here that Moyes spends the big money he has mostly on CBs DMs, or CFs – essentially the spine of a team.

Jason Heng
290  Posted 27/07/2012 at 12:57:28
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Oops, forgot to include the unforgettable Richard Wright.
Andy Morden
294  Posted 27/07/2012 at 13:53:13
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Martyn
Hibbert Jagielka Distin Lescott
Neville Heitinga Carsely Baines
Cahill

Now there is a Moyes dream team to go fearfully into the caldron of Old Trafford / Anfield / Stamford Bridge / The Emirates and hold out for a 0-0...

Michael Kenrick
313  Posted 27/07/2012 at 17:21:09
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Wot... with only 10 men, Andy?!?!
Stephen Leary
321  Posted 27/07/2012 at 17:39:16
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Martyn,
Neville, Lescott, Jagielka, Baines,
Arteta, Gravesen, Felliani, Pienaar,
Cahill,
Yakubu
Andy Morden
415  Posted 28/07/2012 at 10:30:06
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Michael (#313) Ooops, somehow chopped Marcus Bent off the team. Alternatively, it could be interpreted as a sly dig at Leon Osman's contribution in such games (the invisible man)...

...but I like Ossie by and large, so I'll refrain!

Ian Bennett
463  Posted 28/07/2012 at 14:22:54
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High expectations that went pear shaped etc

Simonsen
O'Connor
Ball
Matterazzi
Krøldrup
Barmby
Williamson
Nyarko

Branch
Bakayoko
Jeffers

Gareth Fieldstead
496  Posted 28/07/2012 at 17:06:42
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I realise it is all about opinions but I cannot believe the amount of people who have put Rooney in there side. He stunk the place out in his last season, how many games did he play well in? Utd at home? There's a surprise! I think people are getting confused with his form for Utd over the years rather than the two years he "blessed" us with his presence.

I am surprised AJ never got a mention, especially his form in the 06-07 season. Cahill was terrific for us but for me he represented the defensive Moyes who wanted to make sure we got a point.

I would stick with a 4-4-2 formation. Obviously Martyn in goal, Neville at right back (lets face it we havent had a decent right back since Gary Stevens) Jagielka and Lescott and Baines round off the defence. Again fans forget Jags was the best centre back in the country prior to his injury in that 09 season. Midfield would be Donovan, Arteta, Felli and Pienaar. Up front Jelavic and AJ, solely for his work effort, especially if he could avoid injuries.
Mick Davies
917  Posted 31/07/2012 at 03:49:18
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"To anyone giving Rooney down the banks...." Jem Traynor WTF? Rooney loved the blues? Are you serious here? I love the blues and I wouldn't want to run away from my club after only 2 years.

Brian Labone loved the blues and despite being an England international and prized top class defender, he never went anywhere else. Mick Lyons never wanted to leave the club, Alan Ball - who wasn't a local lad or boyhood blue - never wanted to leave and many others too. So how can you defend that traitorous little scumbag after he ran to our fans kissing the Utd badge?

If you value our manager, then how do you feel about Shrek lambasting him with lies in his 'book'? A greedy little pervert who sold his soul to the 'Scum' rag and had his slimy agent devise a cunning plan to get him away from Goodison as soon as a club came knocking, without a thought for us fans who worshipped him, falsely assuming he was one of us. Sorry, but you are misguided at the very least.
Michael Kenrick
971  Posted 31/07/2012 at 13:50:05
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So there's this bloke from Croxteth who says he's an Evertonian, goes to watch them when he can get time off work, looks for their scores when he can't, and dresses his kid up in an Everton kit...

If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck... just sayin'.

Denis Richardson
978  Posted 31/07/2012 at 14:24:54
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Ian 463 - to be fair a lot of thoses you mention were not Moyes signings, however some you forgot that were, that were also turds dressed in gold leaf.......

Andy Van de Meyder
Simon Davies
Diniyar Bilyaletdinov

Nate Allen
045  Posted 31/07/2012 at 18:20:22
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Has Jelly really proven that he is better than Saha was?
Jon Ferguson
174  Posted 01/08/2012 at 10:24:04
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Ian - your (original) team had a 3-5-2 formation and you show Baines as one of the 3 and so I took it he was a centre back. You then say Landon is a wing back (which seems ridiculous), without stating who the other wing back is, I'd presume from the line up it would be Pienaar. To be honest your line up doesn't look fluid at all, it looks a mess. You'd have good players playing in positions not suited to them.

My line up was not a 4-4-2 but instead a 'fluid' 4-5-1 which could turn into an attacking 4-1-3-1 with attacking fullbacks.

I'm not watching in black and white but to carry on the analogy, I'd say you're sat watching the game with your novelty 3D glasses on.

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