A fantastic last-minute comeback!

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Everton 2 - 1 Tottenham Hotspur
The first good chance of the game fell to Osman but he missed it. Then a great cross in from Gibson after more good work by Coleman, but Jelavic could not keep his shot away from the Spurs keeper Lloris.

Jelavic then ran on to a good ball and forced Lloris out to stretch and push it off his toe, bringing him down in the process, and forcing the requisite chorus of screams for a penalty... but it never was.

Gibson fouled after an absolutely dreadful pass from Osman, giving the ball way, resulting a very dangerous free-kick but Dempsey fired it straight at Howard.

Coleman, with loads of time and space on the right but his cross was hopeless, straight at Vertonghen. Then Jelavic caught a long ball well, a long diagonal; pass from Gibson, but his ball back was really poor, missing all the incoming Everton players.

Mirallas then did brilliantly to get behind the Spurs defence but Jelavic overran it and a defender was able to deny him at the cost of a corner that came to nothing. It was end-to-end stuff with Spurs getting forward as well, and winning a corner after Fellaini lost possession, and Everton could not clear the ball until Baines had loads of time and overhit it.

Baines did well to break up a very promising Spurs move as the Blues came under some pressure.but Coleman got forward again only to lash a silly shot well wide under no pressure.

Another good move, Mirallas, to Osman to Pienaar, but the South African also chose to shoot, wide. Mirallas was having a fine time down the right, perhaps on occasions trying to do too much.

Slow build-up play by Everton allowed Spurs to block progress but Coleman won a corner, swung in by Pienaar that Fellaini was adjudged to have headed behind.

Defoe was rightly yellow-carded for walking toward Baines as he was preparing to take a free-kick that was easily defended away. Coleman got away again, and Vertonghen blatantly took him out. After plenty of discussion and protest, the Spurs defender was rightly booked but Gibson's free-kick was headed away by the Spurs defence.

Fellaini played on Osman who did well to get to the byline but didn't look up to see where Jelavic was, and he had held back, awaiting the wrong ball, which was played past Lloris, right across he gaping goal. Some really poor passing forced Baines to make a very late tackle on Baines that could have been red if Lennon had forced it, but didn't (to his credit): yellow for Baines.

A very dodgy-looking handball by Dempsey, trying to control a bouncing ball in the Spurs area was correctly ignored by referee Friend as Dempsey controlled the ball with his shoulder, not his arm — no penalty. Then another massive penalty shout, also correctly adjudged to be invalid, as Pienaar blasted a shot at Gallas who was turning his body, but the Goodison crowd were seething with rage at the glaring injustice of i all.

From the ensuing Baines corner, Fellaini got the ball goalwards but it was defended off the line, and the referee came in for a torrent of visceral abuse from the Goodison faithful, convinced that yet again, they had been denied three good penalty calls.

A huge disappointment as Naismith replaced Mirallas after the break. Osman was cut down by Sandro. Baines sent the ball into the wall then got to through to Naismith at the far post were he was perfectly positioned to fire home and he totally fluffed his lines when he should have scored easily (although possibly offside).

Jelavic then did well to conjour a chance but his shot was blocked, as Spurs withstood the Everton onslaught, getting forward themselves, eventually seeing Sandro shoot wide, deflected, two Spurs corners being defended. Fellaini misplayed his forward ball for Jelavic, then Gibson caught Dembele as he was about to pull the trigger and was lucky to escape a card. Howard saved the hard deflected shot from Vertongen very well. as Everton came under more pressure from more corners.

Another good opportunity to cross for Coleman but it again looked to be just swung in the general direction without picking anyone out. Some brilliant stuff from Fellaini in the left corner but the final ball again let Everton down. More nice play in the same corner of the field ended with Pienaar scooping it behind.

Coleman had been running at the Spurs defence all game, and won a free kick that Baines swung in deep onto Fellaini's head but his soft header was saved by Lloris. Dembele won a very soft free-kick off a shoulder barge from Naismith. As the game entered its final third, Everton looked increasingly less likely to score, despite Baines laying the ball back nicely for Osman who fired over instead of under the Spurs bar.

Osman got yellow for a late tackle on Walker. More deliberative buildup finally saw Osman shoot on target but Lloris pushed it away at a stretch.

Out of nothing, Dempsey's shot deflected off Distin's foot and over Howard into the corner of the net and suddenly, Spurs had the three points in the bag, as Everton would now have to do what they had failed to do despite trying everything they could.

More good passing until that final ball, this time Fellaini playing in a useless cross all too easily cut out. Then Coleman passed behind Naismith and the Blues attack broke down. The next build-up ended with a goalkick, Osman making way for Vellios as Moyes presumably thought 4-4-2 was now the required approach, but without Osman's supposed creative prowess and Fellaini, leading goalscorer, dropping deep...

Everton tried the long ball, which Vellios won, but directed his header to no-one, while at the other end, Sigurdsson smacked one over Howard and onto the Park End crossbar. Everton struggled to get forward, having tried everything they were capable of in this game, but there was one more chance and it finally cam e right on 90 mins, Coleman's cross picking out Pienaar who powered a header past Lloris. 1 - 1.

Then, a speculative ball into the area headed forward by Vellios and there was Jelavic, the consummate predator, nipping in behind the defender to clip the ball brilliantly past Lloris!!! a fantastic finish, a fantastic piece of poaching, a second goal in 88 seconds.

Four minutes of added time nearly over, and Jelavic was then withdrawn to a fantastic ovation, Heitinga coming on with clock passing 94 minutes.

There was a late Spurs flurry, but the whistle finally went! Victory from the jaws of defeat! Everton up into 4th over Spurs in this massive six-pointer.

Everton: Howard; Coleman, Jagielka, Distin, Baines Y:43'; Osman Y:70' (75' Vellios), Pienaar, Gibson, Fellaini, Mirallas (46' Naismith); Jelavic (90+3' Heitinga).
Subs: Mucha, Oviedo, Hitzlsperger, Barkley.

Tottenham Hotspur: Lloris, Walker, Gallas, Caulker, Vertonghen Y:37', Lennon (72' Huddlestone), Dempsey, Dembele (77' Sigurdsson), Sandro, Adebayor, Defoe Y:35'.
Subs: Friedel, Naughton, Falque, Livermore, Townsend.

Referee: Kevin Friend

Michael Kenrick

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Steavey Buckley
1 Posted 09/12/2012 at 14:14:04
Everton XI: Howard, Coleman, Baines, Jagielka, Distin, Osman, Pienaar, Gibson, Fellaini, Mirallas, Jelavic.

Today 14:07.

Ian Bennett
2 Posted 09/12/2012 at 14:13:28
No Hibbert. Coleman and Mirallas start, Naismith benched.

Watch Coleman score. Go on the farmer!

Paul Ferry
3 Posted 09/12/2012 at 14:19:12
That is not the team the Beeb are putting out: where you get it from Mr Buckley?

Two changes for Everton from the team that drew with Manchester City - Seamus Coleman and Steven Naismith make way for Tony Hibbert and Kevin Mirallas.

Jim Knightley
4 Posted 09/12/2012 at 14:19:25
I'm not sure why Hibbert isn't playing... I'm guessing he is injured? tbf, Sigurdsson or Dempsey will be playing from the left for Spurs, and both will come inside, so less pressure will be put on the right back. Our right hand-side will also give us an avenue to double up on the Spurs left back (probaly Vertonghen or an inexperienced Naughton), and exploit Spurs' defensive shortcomings.

I would still like to see Hibbert playing though... but on the plus side, Mirallas is fit! Excluding Hibbert, I'd say this is our best team at the moment... A draw wouldn't be an awful result, but given Spurs' injuries, and our strength, we must win this one if we want top four. COYB

Mark Tanton
5 Posted 09/12/2012 at 14:25:12
In the context or recent results, a draw would be a huge disappointment, and missed opportunity.
Henrik Lyngsie
6 Posted 09/12/2012 at 14:42:00
I am Coleman's biggest critics. I think he is really poor defending and offers nothing but his energy and passion going forward. Seamus please prove me wrong.
James lee
7 Posted 09/12/2012 at 14:48:34
This is the best line-up we can wish for!!! Promising attacking options on left, centre, right!
Ciarán McGlone
8 Posted 09/12/2012 at 16:54:36
Was ready with the brickbats - waiting for the final whistle... Especially for Pienaar, but it would just be churlish now.

Great end to the game and good value for the win.

Tony Twist
9 Posted 09/12/2012 at 16:55:57
There is a god after all! Thank Christ for that. Well done one and all, we will celebrate tonight. COYB
James Morgan
10 Posted 09/12/2012 at 16:57:33
I was about to curl up under the blanket and feel sorry for myself in my Mauritius hotel room then that crazy turn around happened! Cigar and a whiskey I think! Or maybe a blue coast cocktail?
Can't write off the blues! Get in!!!
Matt Traynor
11 Posted 09/12/2012 at 16:58:12
Tottenham have a habit of conceding late. Apparently if games ended after 80 mins, they'd be top of the league, comfortably.

We deserved something out of that game, if only because we'd deserved more from a few of those draws. It doesn't mask the deficiencies, but what a boost for confidence ahead of another run of 6 games which will define our season, and what we can do in January.

Eric Myles
12 Posted 09/12/2012 at 17:00:38
At last a result that went our way when we've abolutely deserved it.

We're still giving away own goal leads early on though.

Nick Entwistle
13 Posted 09/12/2012 at 17:01:30
Gibson leaves the field undefeated yet again. Brilliant. And Gerrard scores an own goal too.
Jim Knightley
14 Posted 09/12/2012 at 17:01:43
Dream Land... Absolutely nothing like a 2-goal turnaround at the end of a match (apart from a cup win/derby win obviously....). About time we benefited from goals at the end of a match... and what a match to do it in!
Kase Chow
15 Posted 09/12/2012 at 17:03:29
Fucking come on!!!!
Suresh Gill
16 Posted 09/12/2012 at 16:59:47
What a comeback!! Fully deserved the win. Proud to be a blue COYB
Anto Byrne
17 Posted 09/12/2012 at 16:58:00
Coleman played well at the back today, hardly made a mistake and was instrumental in the equaliser. What a difference it made having a big mobile target man up front. I think Fellaini is a midfielder who can go forward and not vice versa.

It's a nice win but it papers over the flaws in this team and that is the decisive final ball and clinical finishing. Ossie and Naismith had our best clear-cut chances and again fluffed them.

Overall we played some wonderful attacking football against a really good side who play some nice football.

So who's next... Stoke? West Ham?

Are we top 4 tonight?

Nick Entwistle
18 Posted 09/12/2012 at 17:07:25
Didn't exactly deserve the win on performance as it was evenly contested... but we're up to 4th again me thinks.
Ajay Gopal
19 Posted 09/12/2012 at 17:10:54
I was about to turn off the telly, but what an unbelievable result! Partially makes up for all the late heartburns that we have suffered this season (Newcastle, Reading, Norwich). Mirallas was clutching his hamstring towards the end of the 1st half – looks like he will be off for a few weeks again. Shit! Well done everybody – Coleman was very, very good and my MotM.
Trevor Lynes
20 Posted 09/12/2012 at 17:13:46
Hey Nick, at last we have some luck and after some of the results this season it was fully deserved.

Hope Jelly goes on another spree of goals until the season ends. Hope Mirallas is not injured again and is just short of match fitness. He will be needed for every game as he has a decent understanding with Coleman. Defensively we still need Hibbert especially for away games.

Barry Rathbone
21 Posted 09/12/2012 at 17:09:30
Come in from my 4 mile walk, switched on TW with 5 mins left saw we were 0-1 down and decided to wash my sweaty bollocks ready for a good rant.

Just dried off and fook me we won 2-1.

Best wash my bollocks more often methinks .... gerrrrinn there!

Tom Bowers
22 Posted 09/12/2012 at 17:13:20
The Good, the Bad and the Ugly.

The Good: we won in the end.

The Bad: Mirallas should have been a sub and used in the last 20 minutes. He was clearly not ready for 90 minutes.

The Ugly: performances by some players seemingly lacking a will to win or just plain ready to be rested.

The right result in the end and 3 points desperately needed when we have dropped many points to other teams' late goals this season. A nice switch. Maybe this will ignite a good winning run.
Sam Fitzsimmons
23 Posted 09/12/2012 at 17:15:43
Nick #139 "Didn't deserve the win"? I must know feck all about football if that's what everyone else thinks – I might start watching curling from now on...
Wayne Smyth
24 Posted 09/12/2012 at 17:27:03
Our two most out of form players both get a goal. Lets hope this gives them confidence for the rest of the season.
Eric Myles
25 Posted 09/12/2012 at 17:28:14
I think I'll join you Sam, any good hairdressers near you we could go watch the curling at?
Nick Entwistle
26 Posted 09/12/2012 at 17:30:43
Not saying it was undeserved, just that a draw would have been fair. 1-0 to Spurs and we'd have felt hard done by, but goals win games. Awesome ending.
Robin Hunuki
27 Posted 09/12/2012 at 17:28:00
Got an ear full from the missus celebrating the equaliser watching the goal go in at 4am SYD time! Imagine what I got when we scored 90 seconds after... Let's just say I'm on the couch out in the living room with little to no chance of seeing any ''action'' anytime soon... Completely worth it! Night!
Nick Entwistle
28 Posted 09/12/2012 at 17:35:02
Argh.... Liverpool equalise.
Sam Fitzsimmons
29 Posted 09/12/2012 at 17:31:41
Eric, can you get to your nearest hairport?
Phil Rodgers
30 Posted 09/12/2012 at 17:33:19
I thought Spurs were shite for 90 minutes. At least we had a spell at the end of each half. No sympathy from me I hate them nearly as much as Liverpool. This shit never happens to us so I am loving it!
Eric Myles
31 Posted 09/12/2012 at 17:35:56
Nick, a draw might have been a fair result for Spurs but another disappointment for us.

Sam, my nearest hairport is Bangkok and I guess you're in The Emerald Isle.

Shit RS scored again.

Ciarán McGlone
32 Posted 09/12/2012 at 17:33:49
Sam,

We most definitely deserved the win, even if we hadn't scored the two goals. More possession, more shots, played better football..

Take note Eric.

Steve Brown
33 Posted 09/12/2012 at 17:41:31
Get in there you beauty COYBs!
Danny Kewley
34 Posted 09/12/2012 at 17:27:41
Like all Evertonians I was fed up throughout that game today until that miraculous 89th minute! I was going to post on the live forum: get Pienaar and Jelavic off to fuck!! (Honest)

About fucking time we had some luck. COY Toffeessssssssssssssss!!!!!!!!! xxxxxx
Sam Fitzsimmons
35 Posted 09/12/2012 at 17:35:29
Sorry Nick, I saw the game differently, Everton more than edged that game. Spurs had a patch but over the 90 minutes Everton looked the better team.
Eric Myles
36 Posted 09/12/2012 at 17:41:02
Ciarán, as you well know, possession means nothing: it's what you do with it that counts and our 2 goals in 88 seconds negates any claims to possession.
Amit Vithlani
37 Posted 09/12/2012 at 17:36:07
Was running around the living room like a demented monkey when Jelly poked home. Vellios looks to have something about him - tried an overhead kick which led to Jelly's chance. Seems a cocky, confident lad. Peanuts header was just fabulous, from a very good cross. Agree Coleman was very good.

Slight downer is KM. Really enjoyed watching him. He looked the best player on the pitch until his hammy went. Really hope he recovers, doesn't appear to have a bad injury record, so our medical team need to earn their corn and sort him out.

Eric Myles
38 Posted 09/12/2012 at 17:44:09
ps: Ciarán, just look at the RS game: West Ham have been dominating them but are losing.
Ciarán McGlone
39 Posted 09/12/2012 at 17:46:43
So if we hadn't have scored the two late goals you wouldn't have been saying that we deserved to win?

Is that what you're saying?

Andy Crooks
40 Posted 09/12/2012 at 17:41:29
I have never believed that results work out fair in the end but today it happened. We played well and deserved to win.. We look a good passing side and in my view we are not far off being as good as anyone, Well done to David Moyes.
Eric Myles
41 Posted 09/12/2012 at 17:48:49
We might have been the better team in that case Ciarán, but the team that deserves to win is the one that scores the most goals (unless they cheated to do it, but then they still get the points)
Nick Entwistle
42 Posted 09/12/2012 at 17:45:12
46-54 to Spurs on possession according to BBC, though not one for stats telling the story.

I was just going against Suresh (#137) who said 'thoroughly deserved' which is pushing the bias somewhat.

I don't think its a time for a ToffeeWeb splitting hairs debate though... just enjoy the win... that means you Eric and Ciarán.

Graham Mockford
43 Posted 09/12/2012 at 17:40:55
Reading today's forum back makes interesting reading. I understand the frustration but we should always look at the bigger picture. Since we lost to Arsenal back in March we have lost 2 of 25 PL games. Goodison has been a fortress: P13 W9 D4 L0

We have played the top 3 teams on 5 occasions in 2012 winning 3 and drawing 2.

So my point if indeed I have one other than feeling pretty damn good is there are reasons to be cheerful. This is the best side for ages and one genuinely capable of qualifying for the CL.

Eric Myles
44 Posted 09/12/2012 at 17:52:57
As I've said before Nick possession means nothing, how many times did Spurs have the ball in our 25 yard box in the first half? or the second?

Eric Myles
45 Posted 09/12/2012 at 17:57:08
And as Ciarán is one for possession stats then I guess that means Spurs deserved the win if they had more possession?
Steve Green
46 Posted 09/12/2012 at 17:59:07
Two goals in added on time to win the game was never in doubt once we switched to that 4-4-4-2 formation you mentioned!! Should do that every week. Well done Moysey. Let's just hope the FA and MOTD don't spot it, lol.
Col Noon
47 Posted 09/12/2012 at 18:02:05
MASSIVE win that against a very good team. The league looks a lot better now and we normally get going over Christmas. Stoke next which is tough. Mirallass is going to be injured more than he is fit by the looks of it tho. Shame as he is a brilliant player and makes us a more dynamic outfit. Coleman and Gibson were outstanding today. Well played blues.
Brian Williams
48 Posted 09/12/2012 at 17:59:05
Reading some of the comments I wonder if that was Goodison I was at today!!

In the first 45 minutes Everton played Spurs off the park. It was obvious they'd come looking for, and would have been happy with, the draw. First team I can remember wasting time in the FIRST half.
The second half was much the same apart from a couple of times when Spurs strung a few passes togather to their own teamates instead of touch!
They scored a fortunate goal, the scoring of which was bound to change things a bit, with them going on to hit the bar.

Overall though Everton played some really really good fotball, but seemed to have fallen into the old Arsenal trap of wanting to score perfect goals from pefect buildup. It was only the last ball that seemed to be letting us down.

Anyone who thinks we "just edged it" or "just deserved to win" wants their head reading.

What happened was that at last we had some of the good fortune we've needed, instead of the real bad luck we've been having.

Having said that I disagree about the Jelavic "penatly". I think it WAS a peno and I was in the Park End as near as you could be. Also thing there was another stonewall penalty when (I think it was) Dempsey helped it on with his arm before clearing his lines......

Some of Everton's linkup play was a joy to watch...and we deserved to win that game without a shadow of a doubt!!!

Noel Early
49 Posted 09/12/2012 at 18:01:49
Holy Christ — what a turn up for the books!!!

I turned it off after 85 mins, lamenting another poxy goal against us and counting all the silly points we had dropped. I decided on going for a walk to put my mind at ease. My mate texted me saying we had won... "Bollocks!!!" I say to myself, and decide the walk will now become a run back to my gaff, promising that I'll kill my mate if he was somehow pulling the piss. Switch on the telly and booooom — suddenly I'm thinking of Champions League football again and still lamenting all them silly points we had dropped.

ps: The boy Coleman done well again... COYB

Sam Fitzsimmons
50 Posted 09/12/2012 at 17:53:09
Looking at the stats on Sky it was a closer game than the one I watched through my blue tinted glasses. But we did edge it territorially
Sam Hoare
51 Posted 09/12/2012 at 18:04:38
Hope mirallas isn't out again. Anyone know if he was injured or just tired? Presumably the former.

Very tight table. We must follow this up with results at stoke and west ham or we will drop down very quickly.

Ian Bennett
52 Posted 09/12/2012 at 18:05:43
I knew we'd get something out of the game when that arsehole in the mirror tipped spurs. Thank god for Derek.
Jamie Crowley
53 Posted 09/12/2012 at 18:12:59
Brian -
I watched on the TV and the Dempsey touch was on his left chest/shoulder, not his arm. He did raise his arm and it looked a handball - but the replay showed it wasn't.

Think, as you do, the other was a defo pen.

Nick Entwistle
54 Posted 09/12/2012 at 18:12:28
I think you read the game right, Brian.
Spurs may well have come for the draw or the Everton method of keeping it tight and hoping to nick one, but we were hardly a threat on their goal despite outplaying them.
As Mourinho would say you don't need to be on possession to control the game.
Gavin Ramejkis
55 Posted 09/12/2012 at 18:15:20
Sam after the run he made across the width of the pitch at the end of the first half in front of the Spurs goal he held his hamstring, he wasn't hobbling but I'd say it was a decision down to that.
Eric Myles
56 Posted 09/12/2012 at 18:15:04
Brian, pretty much what I thought, Spurs came to draw the game.

Neither was a penalty on the telly playbacks though.

And yes we were the better team and deserved to win.

Paul Ferry
57 Posted 09/12/2012 at 18:17:45
You're right Nick, good shout; goals win games.
Ian Bennett
58 Posted 09/12/2012 at 18:14:39
4-4-4-2? - no wonder Moyes has had is tactics blasted in the past... Sneak em on MK, no one will notice.
Ciarán McGlone
59 Posted 09/12/2012 at 18:27:28
Eric,

Last week you said we deserved to win... Now you're saying what ever happens in the match apart from the result is irrelevant. Odd.

Eric Myles
60 Posted 09/12/2012 at 18:28:43
Nick, you obviously don't know how many times Spurs were in our 25 yard box, or how many times we were in theirs.

But I'm happy to see that Mourinho agrees with me and not Ciarán.

John Audsley
61 Posted 09/12/2012 at 18:29:05
Unbelievable finish to a game where 2 teams looked like cancelling each other out

Seamus Coleman deserves huge credit for a good performance and a great cross to create the equalizer. He has taken huge stick but the boy gets huge admiration from me for his attitude

Seamus, you can come to mine for Xmas dinner if you want

Well played boys, in the end!

Ciarán McGlone
62 Posted 09/12/2012 at 18:29:37
Brian,

The Dempsey 'hand ball'.. was actually his chest. One of the advantages of television.

Nick Entwistle
63 Posted 09/12/2012 at 18:38:15
Don't know Eric, got the stats?
Brent Stephens
64 Posted 09/12/2012 at 18:36:50
Barry, give me your address and l'll send some soap for those bollocks!
Eric Myles
65 Posted 09/12/2012 at 18:36:58
Ciarán, I think if you re-read the thread you'll find that I was disageeing with your asertion that City deserved to draw.

And what counts in league positions at the end of the season? the result? i.e. points gained, or the possession that the teams had?

Ciarán McGlone
66 Posted 09/12/2012 at 18:36:52
I would accept Mourinho's incomplete point.. but counter it with this - you do need to be in possession to score.

I think we would all happily agree that scoring is the point of football.

Eric Myles
67 Posted 09/12/2012 at 18:41:23
And Ciarán, we scored 2 in 88 seconds to win, what does that tell you about possession for either side the rest of the game?
Eric Myles
68 Posted 09/12/2012 at 18:45:21
Yes Nick, I watched the game.
Trevor Lynes
69 Posted 09/12/2012 at 18:45:21
A nice basin of PEANUT JELLY!!!!!
Ciarán McGlone
70 Posted 09/12/2012 at 18:48:46
Eric,

2 goals in 88 seconds tells me we got what we deserved.

Brent Stephens
71 Posted 09/12/2012 at 18:39:45
A reflection on those who ask "were you at the game?" when somebody disagrees with them... I was at the game today, and the first "handball" in the their box was as nailed on a pen as I've ever seen, sat in Bullens Upper with a clear view in the line of the "offence". And the whole of Goodison seemed to rise as a man (and woman) to call "pen!!!!". But it sounds on TW as if that was chest not hand. So much for my judgement and so much for "being at the game"!
Paul David
72 Posted 09/12/2012 at 18:48:43
Can't believe people are saying that on tele it wasn't handball. Everyone in the ground thought it was a dead cert. The fact the ref didn't give it doesn't mean he made a good decision, just he decided not to make a decision cos theres no way he could have been the only one to see it wasn't handball.

I thought we we're the better team but were still only average, no one seemed bothered till the last few mins.

Nick Entwistle
73 Posted 09/12/2012 at 18:51:51
Possession, however fleeting, will always be attained, of course, as no team retains 100%.

But ceding possession as part of the game plan and controlling where and how the opposition attack can be the best way to go.

And if that wins you the game, people will still say the team with most the possession deserved the win.

But matches aren't won on post match opinion, only as Ciarán and Eric say, only the goals count. Only goals are fact.

Eric Myles
74 Posted 09/12/2012 at 18:50:24
So Ciarán, you'd say that if Spurs had the majority of possession as Nick's BBC stats say they didn't deserve to win whereas last week you were saying that City deserved a draw because they had the majority of possession? Odd.
Nick Entwistle
75 Posted 09/12/2012 at 18:57:39
Oh blimey. Off for a pizza...
Brian Abbott
76 Posted 09/12/2012 at 18:52:09
I love it when we win games late like this. Not often it happens but it gives everyone such a boost when it does. After all the points we have dropped late on this season, it made a helluva change.

Apart from the goal (fluke) and the shot against the bar, were Spurs ever really threatening? For our general play in all areas over 90 minutes we definitely deserved the win. Mind you, like DM I was more than happy that Bale was crocked.

Let's keep the run going. Tough games coming up over Christmas, but if we can keep our players fit, I don't think we should fear anyone. COYB

James Lee
77 Posted 09/12/2012 at 18:54:03
Do you think we can be on top (or top 4) if we just changed Howard come January with a decent (or calmer) goalkeeper?
Eric Myles
78 Posted 09/12/2012 at 19:00:15
I should be off to bed Nick as it's 2am here and I've a conference call at 08:15 in the morning, think I'll have another beer though and continue celbrating the win.
Andy Crooks
79 Posted 09/12/2012 at 19:04:05
Who thinks Seamus Coleman isn't good enough for the Premier league? Humble pie all round.
Jamie Crowley
80 Posted 09/12/2012 at 19:06:44
Paul -

I rose in unison with Goodison calling for a pen while I watched on the tube. F-bombs flew from my sewer. Then the replay was shown...

I would doubt anyone saw it wasn't a pen live. It was only on replay in slo mo you could see it hit his chest.

Eric Myles
81 Posted 09/12/2012 at 19:09:04
Andy, he really didn't have any defending to do today, might have been a different story if he was up against Bale?
Steve Edwards
82 Posted 09/12/2012 at 18:55:49
Did not see the game. Was Mirallas taken off because he was not match fit or is it his hamstring again? Concerned, may take the gloss off the win. Unclear from previous comments.
Ian Allaker
83 Posted 09/12/2012 at 19:11:16
As I just said in the other post Eric, Colemen had Bale on toast on his debut, setting up a goal and playing a big part in the other goal, Bale or not Colemen has held his own against him more often than not.
Jay Harris
84 Posted 09/12/2012 at 19:16:23
Good report Michael apart from the 14 men we had on the pitch.

Irrespective of TV replays can anyone claim that either of the "handballs" would normally have penalties given for them especially if it was for Utd or the RS or thereagain against us.

We cannot get an ounce of luck from referees decisions so far this season.

Overall a great display by the blues but we need to do more work on our final balls and Peanut's shooting (He's not bad at heading though!!)

Bjørn-Ivar Pedersen
85 Posted 09/12/2012 at 19:12:50
Looks like this is the strategy for the team this season, let the opponent get a head start, and then fire on all cylinders to make them crash and burn.
I can appreciate that they keep fighting into the add on time.

But I am very curious on how much we could win, if DM paired Vellios with Jelavic up front for a whole match...to me it looks like a good duo.

Eric Myles
86 Posted 09/12/2012 at 19:20:21
Steve, he looked to be feeling his hamstring at half time so it was probably a precautionary substitution rather than an full blown injury. I hope.
Eric Myles
87 Posted 09/12/2012 at 19:22:57
So Ian, you think Coleman is a good defender?
Eric Myles
88 Posted 09/12/2012 at 19:26:07
Jay, the ref had a good game and didn't give any dodgy decisions against us so be thankfull for that after our bad run of refs rather than complain about non-penalties that we didn't get.
Ciarán McGlone
89 Posted 09/12/2012 at 19:27:24
Eric,

The stats on my tv showed in favour of us..as did shots, shots on target and possession in their half..

Jamie Barlow
90 Posted 09/12/2012 at 19:17:26
Steve, the commentator said he was holding it just before half time and Moyes probably took him of as a precaution. We won't know until Moyes tells us I suppose.

Coleman was brilliant today. Not much to do at the back but fantastic going forward. A massive vote of confidence from Moyes to play him before Hibbert who's looked to steady the back 4 recently.

Nice to see our out of form players getting both goals. Let's hope Jelly goes on a run the same as he did the last time he scored against Spurs.

Jamie Crowley
91 Posted 09/12/2012 at 19:29:10
Eric -

Do you think Seamus shouldn't have started, what with Spurs' left sided injuries today?

He may have his deficiencies defending, but what he offers going forward far outweighs any negatives.

The kid played marvelously.

Patrick Murphy
92 Posted 09/12/2012 at 19:26:40
Bjørn-Ivar, I was thinking the same thing, especially at Goodison.

This is turning into a bloody hard run of fixtures, Arsenal , City(A) , Spurs , Stoke(A) , WHU(A) who's after that bloody Barca and Juve. That's why it's a shame that we dropped all those points in silly draws. I wish I could get hold of those buggers who organise the fixture list even the likes of City and United would struggle in that run of games.

Brent Stephens
93 Posted 09/12/2012 at 19:29:38
Eric you seem to be having most of the "possession" on TW at the moment. But, well, you've got to win most of the arguments to be able to say you "deserved it".
Eric Myles
94 Posted 09/12/2012 at 19:32:51
Ciarán, you've just proved my point that you can't rely on the stats as yours are different to Nick's which has Spurs deserving the win on possession.

Sorry, I can't spell posession properly!

Brent Stephens
95 Posted 09/12/2012 at 19:37:20
Eric, you're right - you can't spell that word!
Eric Myles
96 Posted 09/12/2012 at 19:37:10
Jamie, I agree Coleman played well. but he didn't have anything to do defensively which is where he's weak, and didn't have Essoko up against him, are those the Spurs left sided deficiencies you mean? .

Should he have started today? With Neville and Hibbert injured who do you suggest we should use?

Ian Smitham
97 Posted 09/12/2012 at 19:27:52
Wow, just got in from Goodison, two really good and well balanced teams, KM is brilliant, SP is struggling, but for work rate and never giving up, is an essential part of the team, Jelly is struggling, but to be fair he put in a lot of work today, and form is temporary. We need more bodies as once past our best eleven, which I thought we had today, aside from Hibbert, we are weak. Team battled again and got a result, with 3 mins to go would have taken another draw.
Jamie Crowley
98 Posted 09/12/2012 at 19:46:51
with Nev and Hibbo even available Ida started Seamus against a dilapidated Spurs left side. Run at Em (even headless like only Seamus can) all day long.

Didnt realize Hibbo was hurt....

Ian Bennett
99 Posted 09/12/2012 at 19:46:02
Ekotto is rubbish. He scored against us, but is usually spurs achilles heel.

Spurs always ship in goals.

Lewis Barclay
100 Posted 09/12/2012 at 20:01:45
Lay off Coleman. He isn't the defender Hibbert can be at times, but he really has something going forward, running at defenders and is really starting to learn his game. He gives Everton something different going forward and really proved it today.

Let's hang on in there at the top and get an FA cup run going in the new year.

Come on you Blue Boys

Colin Wainwright
101 Posted 09/12/2012 at 19:59:11
This Coleman can't defend fallacy needs to stop. He's a young lad, learning his trade. Fuckin' give him a break.
Nothing wrong with him today.
Dean Adams
102 Posted 09/12/2012 at 19:03:36
Henrik Lyngsie 14.42

You were proved wrong. Now you need to ear some humble pie with mustard on.

Brian Harrison
103 Posted 09/12/2012 at 20:09:47
I thought we played very well in the first half especially, KM had a very good half and it was a shame he had to go off. We certainly missed his pace in the second half, although we were very unlucky to go behind. No doubt Spurs are a good footballing side but Adebayor or Defoe hardly got a kick all afternoon.

Like most inside Goodison I thought with 2 minutes to go that again we would be denied any points, so well done to our lads for not letting their heads drop at any point. Considering that 3 or 4 of our players didn't reach their normal standards then this was a very important win. Not only does it put us back in the top 4 but the lift that the players will get from this win will be very important during the next few matches.

Andre James
104 Posted 09/12/2012 at 19:37:52
We definitely deserved something out of that. We worked them hard and their goal was so jammy. Plus Villas Boas messed up. He clearly brought off Lennon to make the midfield more defensive and lock down Pienaar and Baines. Now when Dempsey got lucky, it seemed like he'd got away with a defensive substitution.

However, Baines was on a yellow. Lennon should have been ordered to keep running at him and see what might happen. Villas Boas was naive in thinking he could play a guy out of position and stop Baines that way.

No, for me Spurs (although without their best player) got lucky twice today (the deflection and Mirallas going off) but failed to capitalise on that.

All that said, I still think we have some issues that need resolving if we want to stay in the top 4. Sometime soon we need a clean sheet. Sometime soon we also need to spank someone to reflect the time we spend in the attacking third.

Mick Quirke
105 Posted 09/12/2012 at 20:15:58
There was a brilliant bit of defending by Seamus facing his own goal in the 95th minute: he used his body to hold off the forward and turned away from trouble. That 95th minute that was added on cos of one of those mad time-added-on substitutions by Moyes.
Eric Myles
106 Posted 09/12/2012 at 20:16:06
Lewis / Colin, how many games do you think it's acceptable for us to lose while Coleman's learning?
Peter Jones
107 Posted 09/12/2012 at 20:18:57
Eric- Coleman had nothing to do defensively? I'd say Dembele is pretty intimidating player to go up against down the left. And he was largely anonymous. A lot of that had to do with Seamus.
Michael Kenrick
108 Posted 09/12/2012 at 20:19:46
Bizarre:

The BBC have Jealvic booked at 90+3:02' for 'unsporting behaviour'... yet they also show Jelvaic being substituted at 90+2:56' — six seconds earlier.

I saw the substitution... did anyone see the yellow card?

David Barks
109 Posted 09/12/2012 at 20:15:08
Coleman being out a few games did him a lot of good in my opinion. He started to get sloppy/irresponsible defensively and made a few very costly mistakes. He picked up an injury, had to sit a few out and watch Hibbert, and to me it looked like he was far better defensively today.

He got rid of the ball when needed and marked his man much better. Going forward is never going to be a problem for him. Understanding that his primary responsibility is defending is what he needs to remember. Baines does a good job at balancing that these days. Not to say Baines doesn't make a mistake because everybody does, he just minimises them.

Good game from Coleman today.
Colin Wainwright
110 Posted 09/12/2012 at 20:22:18
Booked for his goal celebration, I think Michael. Never seen the card though. Too busy celebrating.
Peter Manning
111 Posted 09/12/2012 at 20:11:43
Coleman was great today (I've been the match); his runs down the line and willingness to join in every attack stopped Spurs on their left. Twice in the first half Spurs forwards had to track him all the way to their own corner flag (Defoe once and Dempsey). He also put both crosses in, didn't he, for the goals.
Chris Leyland
112 Posted 09/12/2012 at 20:15:39
Colin the 'young lad learning his trade'' fallacy needs to stop more like. He is 24 years old. He is a professional footballer. He should have learnt his trade by now given that he is playing at an elite level in one of the best leagues in the world. If he was working in Asda on a YTS behind the butchers counter then I'd accept that was learning his trade.
Lewis Barclay
113 Posted 09/12/2012 at 20:24:41
Eric - #240 - if you check the results you'll see we haven't lost many while he's been playing. What I think you mean is that he has stopped us from winning?

If you can point to an alternative that means we'll win more, lets hear it!

Michael Kenrick
114 Posted 09/12/2012 at 20:26:37
I thought it might be that. Such a silly rule... the point of the fecking game is to score goals... and when you score, you celebrate. It must be something about the rule on not leaving the field without the ref's permission or something equally stupid. What about throw-ins and corners!!!
Colin Wainwright
115 Posted 09/12/2012 at 20:36:07
My point is Chris, rewind four years, where you one of the fans slating Hibbert for being shite, only to now be doing exactly the same to Coleman?
Paul Thompson
116 Posted 09/12/2012 at 20:37:42
Was at game. Spurs a good side who know how to keep the ball. But they hardly threatened and the goal was lucky. We lost some of our threat in the second half, but continued to try and play decent football. Onwards and upwards.
Nick Entwistle
117 Posted 09/12/2012 at 20:33:04
Daft rule indeed. No place for emotion in football obviously.

Jelavic's reaction was awesome, even with the hi-fives to all on the bench. Moyes too. Such a nonsense when people say he's happy just to pick up a pay check knowing keeping us up is all he needs to do etc etc.
Lewis Barclay
118 Posted 09/12/2012 at 20:38:07
The team we beat on the first Monday of the season is four wins and a draw ahead of us in the PL table. Relegation is four wins and a draw behind.
Brian Harrison
119 Posted 09/12/2012 at 20:35:04
I didn't see Jelavic get booked but can well believe it, all these refs know the laws but don't know the game.

Michael, I think you picked a bad example over throw-ins and corners, you can't take a throw in unless you're standing off the pitch, otherwise it's a foul throw. Also with a corner the ref by awarding a corner has given you permission to leave the field.

Nick Entwistle
120 Posted 09/12/2012 at 20:43:02
The 'over the top' celebrations are bookable so you don't incite opposition fans, but he couldn't be further away if he tried. All he did was stand on the hoardings. Great celebration.
Patrick Murphy
121 Posted 09/12/2012 at 20:43:31
Lewis that means that 4th is the new mid-table position and 10th must be safe-ish but possibly dragged into the mire. It's a funny old league this year!

Eric Myles
122 Posted 09/12/2012 at 20:44:49
I think it was the jumping into the crowd that got Jelavic booked although he didn't make it far with the hoardings and stewards getting in his way.
Nick Entwistle
123 Posted 09/12/2012 at 20:47:55
Jeez Eric, what is it, 5am where you are?
Brent Stephens
124 Posted 09/12/2012 at 20:43:15
Comments on here about individual performances but I thought the back 4 played really well. A lot tighter. And a jammy goal nobody could have stopped.
Sean Patton
125 Posted 09/12/2012 at 20:46:56
Aye the bloke has just scored for the first time in 5 games a dramatic injury time winner which sends the crowd into a frenzy, he is not exactly going to jog back to the centre circle for a brisk handshake with his colleagues is he.
Peter Mills
126 Posted 09/12/2012 at 20:11:21
Just back from the pub after being at the match. As someone has already commented, being there doesn't necessarily mean I had a better view of things as the Dempsey penalty shout looked a clear handball to me in the Main Stand.

I thought it was a fascinating game. We played really well up to their penalty area, then things did not quite come off. I was impressed with Spurs, who stuck to their game plan well. I thought there would be no way back, even for a draw, after they had taken the lead very luckily.

I'm not the greatest fan of Seamus, but he put in one very good tackle in the penalty area in the first half. His attacking with Mirallas in the first half was excellent.

Jelavic tried very hard all day, constantly looking for openings.

Pienaar had a good game down the left. Again, not everything came off but he is a vital cog in the machine.

Tim Howard, who has been rather shaky, made an excellent save from a free kick at the Park End.

Possession of the ball is hugely important, but so is determination and team spirit and will to win. Well done all round to the team (and manager) for showing those attributes in the closing minutes.
Colin Wainwright
127 Posted 09/12/2012 at 20:51:25
Totally agree. I remember it happening to Cahill against City. Fuckin' joke when you see some of the tackles and dives that go unpunished. As Nick says, he couldn't have been further away from their fans.
Michael Kenrick
128 Posted 09/12/2012 at 20:53:56
No Peter (#247); that was my earlier mistake: it was Gibson who lobbed the ball in for the second goal. Coleman would have run the ball in from there, not lofted a deep cross!
Eric Myles
129 Posted 09/12/2012 at 20:56:26
Only 4 am Nick, no work tomorrow as it's a public holiday but I have a conference call at 08:15 and then I'll be off to bed.
Ian Bennett
130 Posted 09/12/2012 at 20:58:47
Here's the goals chaps:

http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=everton+vs+tottenham+2012&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en&client=safari

Steve Edwards
131 Posted 09/12/2012 at 20:58:20
Eric and Jamie - Thanks for that.
James Peter
132 Posted 09/12/2012 at 20:53:34
Driving home listening to Talksport .... The one and only Everton Fan that came on ..... Paddy give Collymore and the rest of the football what they wanted by saying that we didn't deserve anything from the game, Spurs played all the football and we were lucky. I couldn't believe my ears and am amazed how people can see the game so differently.

I thought Spurs were poor, came for the draw and got a fortuitous goal. There was the embarrassing slow walking substitution, more time wasting, and yes they did hit the bar shortly after, which was only as a result of us throwing everything at them to get back on terms as I'm sure the players never felt they deserved to be behind.

I felt we lacked movement off the ball today, we were a bit stagnant, moved the ball about too slowly. Reminded me of the Sunderland game but this felt that bit sweeter leap-frogging them into fourth.
Colin Wainwright
133 Posted 09/12/2012 at 21:16:26
Well James, Paddy hasn't got a scooby. Fool must have been watchin' a different game to me. Kopite plant written all over it.

I know. Conspiracy theories.

Ian Smitham
134 Posted 09/12/2012 at 21:08:06
239 255 and 267 and 275, Ciaran, get off my case ,
Lol McNally
135 Posted 09/12/2012 at 21:20:34
They say when you play bad and win, it is the sign of a good team.

We have played great and got beat, so who gives a shit? A win is a win and it's 3 points.
Patrick Murphy
136 Posted 09/12/2012 at 21:26:55
Colin it probably was a plant, I've never listened to any of those phone-ins since the early 90s and even then I only listened to City or Merseyside. I stopped tuning in when I realised they only – at that time especially – cared about one particular local team and it wasn't us or Tranmere.

Unfortunately most of the local commentators from those years have managed to infiltrate the national and international media and they maintain the same agenda that they had in the those far-away days.

PIty we can't see today's game apart from MOTD2 who will doubtless be saying how Brenda has her sights on CL football and we'll get 10 mins coverage where all the talk will be about how Spurs have let in so many late goals.

Come on Everton — use today's late late show to go on a run of games and shut the other lot up.....

Steve Mink
137 Posted 09/12/2012 at 21:23:50
Great win. Thought Jelavic was outstanding, worked his socks off all day.
Thought Spurs looked very tidy most of the game but didn't have a cutting edge.
Lol McNally
138 Posted 09/12/2012 at 21:40:15
James (#275)

Collymore should stick to what he does best... fuck all!
Kevin Tully
139 Posted 09/12/2012 at 21:37:25
Just woke up after too much sauce after that win!

Both goalies never had many saves to make, but we certainly deserved to win after our poor run of luck lately. A pity the R.S. got a result, because I would have won a tidy few quid on my coupon but never mind.

Seamus had his best game for long time, and I think he benefits from having a rest now and again. Felli was quiet but I guess he was due one of those.

Fourth is there for the taking this season, let's hope we can push on. I still can't get used to saying 4th is a massive season for the Blues, shows how much football has changed over the last 20 years.

Peter Laing
140 Posted 09/12/2012 at 22:04:10
3rd or 4th is easily possible, as is 10th given the glut of teams separated by only 4 or 5 points. We have also demonstrated that we are a match for both Manchester teams. If only Moyes was given the financial support and backing to add 2 or 3 more quality players, strengthen the squad, challenging for the title wouldn't have been such a long shot.
Graham Mockford
141 Posted 09/12/2012 at 22:02:15
One of the many criticisms of Moyes on here has been his record against the big teams.
So this season unbeaten against Man U, City, Arsenal, Spurs and the Shite. Also our record playing the top 3 in 2012 is 3 wins and two draws.

Can we put this one to bed for the time being?

That's for you Peter Barry.

Doug Harris
142 Posted 09/12/2012 at 21:58:04
87 mins gone and we are resigned to a defeat... "Fergie" time and we are happy as Larry.

Fantastic end to a game and about time we got a result after losing points late on in a few games this season that we knew we should have won. Onwards and upwards.

COYB

Loved Jela's celebration... one touch and the ball was in the net ... Pandemonium followed!!!
John Malone
143 Posted 09/12/2012 at 22:20:36
Put your hands up if you got off before the end!!!
You bastard... got to wait for MotD now!

Well played, Seamus Coleman and Darron Gibson – have to admit I didn't think either of them would become first-choice regulars bit I think both are growing into important players for us.

Fingers crossed Mirallas's injury isn't anything to worry about, what a difference he makes.

Colin Wainwright
144 Posted 09/12/2012 at 22:44:59
We fuckin' won lads! Can't wait for MotD. Probably started down there. I've got to wait for Sportscene to finish.
David Hallwood
145 Posted 09/12/2012 at 22:38:33
An OTT goal celebration will always be yellow carded, apparently because it can antagonise the opposing fans, but surely it’s the goal that winds the fans up. Perhaps anyone that scores should be yellow carded-2 goals and yer off; I think I’ll drop the FA a line.
Colin Wainwright
146 Posted 09/12/2012 at 22:48:47
Btw Patrick, you're right. Remember Tyldesley commentating on Everton games for City in the 80's. Look at the fucker now. If you can spot him hangin' out of Fergusons arse.
Tom Bowers
147 Posted 09/12/2012 at 22:57:56
Kudos to match winner Jelavic. The goal was taken in the manner of a world class poacher and I for one think he is the best of many good Moyes signings despite the fact he has also bought a fair measure of crap players.
Colin Wainwright
148 Posted 09/12/2012 at 23:05:24
Just read Ian @ 278. Are you ok mate?
Joe Clitherow
149 Posted 09/12/2012 at 23:37:16
Eric #185 What exactly is the "25 yard box"? (Clue: football does not have one)
Eric Myles
150 Posted 10/12/2012 at 00:26:23
OK Joe, the 16.5 metre box for those that have gone metric
Sean McCarthy
151 Posted 10/12/2012 at 00:24:47
Colin, it's not a fallacy!!

Defensively he's a liability. A nightmare waiting to happen. Had bale been fit I doubt Coleman would've played if Hibbert was fit. I wouldn't trust him as far as I could throw him.

I agree he did okay today but wasn't up against much. I still say he's the 3rd choice right back when everyone is fit.

John Atkins
152 Posted 10/12/2012 at 00:31:38
Can't believe what happened to me, I had to leave with 2 mins to go to see me mum in hospital due to friggin strict visiting times!!!!!!!! ........ I never ever ever leave early !!!!!!!!!

Well you know the rest..........

Had to bleeding wait till MotD2 to get over it!

Si Cooper
153 Posted 09/12/2012 at 23:46:51
We had most attempts on goal (for both on and off target) and the MotD coverage (and pundits comments) made us look the better team so I am happy to accept that as fact!

No clue given about KM's fitness but he looked happy enough on the bench when Jelly was celebrating with everyone (which seems to knock out that rumour that there was conflict in the squad) though that is hardly definitive proof that he will be available next week.

Annoyed that there are no extended highlights on TV as I couldn't get to a bar to watch it live. Radio City commentators dismissed Dempsey penalty incident but seemed sure that the one against Gallas should have been given. Have seen brief replays of both - agree with the Dempsey decision but the Gallas one was very brief and inconclusive on only that showing.

Finally one dropped just right for Jela and his anticipation was perfect though he was probably just sniffing for a rebound. I thought Mirallas's pass was at fault for the missed opportunity in the first half, not Jela over-running it, and the proof of that is that Gallas was able to get a foot to it whereas if it was a yard further forward only Jelavic could have got to it.

Si Cooper
154 Posted 10/12/2012 at 00:38:01
I think most people know it as 18 yards Eric.
Eric Myles
155 Posted 10/12/2012 at 00:58:23
That's the box Si!!

They only showed the replay of the Gallas handball once and didn't make much of it but it looked like it was not deliberate although his arm was raised when he was jumping.

I suppose if it had been any other team it would have been awarded, or if it was against us?

Phil Bellis
157 Posted 10/12/2012 at 01:24:16
Lewis Barclay
257
Sorry pal, just rolled in after a great game and night out, and I'm not an engineer like Martin Mason and it's most probably me but...

What?

Si Cooper
158 Posted 10/12/2012 at 01:24:47
It was Joe who questioned your "25 yard box" reference Eric, to which you came back with 16.5 metres which didn't really make sense. I think Joe was disputing your numerals not your units.

Sharpie was adamant that Gallas was leaning towards the ball to try to block it with his arm out, and I would agree with that. If he gets it wrong then it is a penalty (just as any genuine attempt at a tackle that goes wrong is judged); what I couldn't tell from the replay I saw was whether it struck his upper arm or his shoulder. The replay shown of the Dempsey incident seemed to be of the super-slow motion variety and therefore clear.

Jason Heng
159 Posted 10/12/2012 at 01:41:26
Piennar-Baines on the left, Mirallas-Coleman on the right - and we'll be flying on 2 wings!
James Martin
160 Posted 10/12/2012 at 01:56:04
Spurs got everything they deserved. They barely made any attempt to win the game and got lucky with a pot shot. They then took off an attacker and brought on a defender which just invited us onto them. Their performance didn't deserve one point let alone three. Gibson provides the steel and class that was missing when he was injured. Him and Osman outclassed Sandro and Dembele today who have ran over a lot of teams recently. Massive win and hopefully we can kick on.
Jim Knightley
161 Posted 10/12/2012 at 02:58:00
How fantastic was Gibson today? really great passing throughout the match...if we can keep our core guys fit, and add a couple in January, we will be flying. Also, nice to see Coleman perform so well...he is defensively suspect, that is for sure, but he was superb going forward today, and unsuprisingly we got at the weaker left hand side of Spurs. Two horrible games next...Stoke and West Ham away...on the plus side, we've got some players use to mixing it, and hopefully today we will have generated some momentum.

Also, the perfect scorers in Pienaar and Jelavic, I think we will agree they both needed it, Everyone in Blue deserved a pat on the back today though, and fantastic to see Moyes' celebration...no doubt he wants to stay.

But we must add in January.

Ernie Baywood
162 Posted 10/12/2012 at 01:24:19
Possession is usually a useful stat but yesterday it meant nothing. Spurs played a high line and we played a deep line - so it took them lots of passes to get to doing something meaningful while we could get Mirallas/Seamus/Jelly past them with only one or two touches. Made for a very interesting first half and we should have made the most of the space they were giving us.

I still can't figure out how Lloris made that save from Jelly. Even watching the replay it looks a goal or penalty/red card. Save of the season in my book even if it didn't come from a shot.

Generally I thought we played well. Dangerous in the first half, and slightly overplayed it in the second. About time we had a rousing finish to win a game.

On Jelavic, the lad is running himself into the ground for us. On one hand that's great - but on the other you wonder if it explains why he can get a bit leggy when he eventually gets the ball. Maybe he could have a breather so he's sharper when the ball arrives?

Eric Myles
163 Posted 10/12/2012 at 03:51:05
Ernie, possession is only a useful stat if you know where the possession is and what it achieved, and then which stats do you believe?

Ciaran and Si seem to have stats that say we had greater possession and more shots on target.

I've seen stats that say 50-50 and they had more shots on target, you seem to think that they had more posssession?

Jamie Crowley
164 Posted 10/12/2012 at 04:22:46
Jim -

Gibbo was fantastic. More than once you could see Spurs playing a very high line and Gibbo unlocked it with beautiful balls over the top to Coleman and Mirallas.

I feel wrong and strange saying Gibbo had beautiful balls....

Gotta go see what the wife is doin'.

Jim Potter
165 Posted 10/12/2012 at 05:43:08
After all the draws we should have won – all the crap refereeing decisions (or lack of decisions) – finally a bit of good fortune.

Mirallas was holding his hamstring before the half time whistle. A real pity as every time he gets the ball you can feel the anticipation.

Pleased for Moyes – he knows we could be a hell of a lot higher if the cookie had crumbled better over the last 8 or 9 games.

Phil Brown
166 Posted 10/12/2012 at 06:27:24
Ernie # 322 Jelavic works very hard in an almost impossible role on his own, very few strikers can do that amount of running and score goals (Klose is one). Moyes needs to take him off after 70 mins and replace him with Vellios.

I know that you say we would not have won yesterday but over a season results would be better and Jelavic would not burn himself out.

And Felli to play box to box with Osman in the No 10 role, to be replaced by Ross after 60 mins or so, his shooting around the box would get us a few goals in the last 30 mins.

Susong Hermawan
167 Posted 10/12/2012 at 06:55:41
Up the Blues!
Peter Barry
168 Posted 10/12/2012 at 07:39:54
Graham Mockford (#286) posts:

"That's for you, Peter Barry" on this thread, to which I have not even posted a single comment. Others on the Match Day Forum, on which I have not posted for over two months, have also seen fit to impugne my name. Now I must admit to being a little flattered that my previous comments have had such an impact on so many but to attack me when I have not posted anything is somewhat deranged.
Nick West
169 Posted 10/12/2012 at 09:11:04
I can't believe so few people are mentioning Gibson. Half a million quid this guy cost and he ran that game. His range of passing and composure on the ball is top quality. Some of his long passing was Hoddle-esque in it's execution and ambition. And he consistently played the right ball.

He and Coleman are incredible signings given the paltry amount of money paid and the effect they have on games peopled by players costing £15m plus. You couldn't get too bog-standard Championship players for the money Moyesy paid for these two guys.
David Price
170 Posted 10/12/2012 at 10:41:23
Very solid defence again last night: two quality strikers didn't get a sniff around Jags and Distin. Gibson outstanding and his most offensive game to date. The through balls were sublime.

The final ball did let us down slightly, Fellaini below his usual standard, Osman and Pienaar worked hard but it didn't look to be our day with another bit of bad luck for their goal.

What a finish, Bill needs to get a structural engineer to check the Gwladys Street stand, I swear the roof lifted above then dropped back into place when Jelavic scored.

The buzz outside the ground afterwards was fantastic, great effort from the boys, another memorable Goodison night for the memory banks.So glad I dragged my lad off his sick bed to witness it!!
Andy Meighan
171 Posted 10/12/2012 at 11:10:14
Typical me. First time I've left the ground on 89 mins in years and look what happens. I go down the Spellow to get the ale in for the boys and we get 2 late ones — unbelievable!

I didn't think we played that well but then neither did Spurs. I thought we just about shaded it. I wish people would lay off Coleman though, he was one of our better players, the others, in my view, being the excellent Gibson and Distin.

I thought the midfield (Gibson apart) was poor. Fellaini, Osman and Piennar were terrible. And what's this obsession with Osman side-footing the ball FFS? Just put your foot through the thing.

We'll take that though. Because we've slaughtered teams this season and only drew a lot of the games... so it's about time we had a bit of luck!
Roman Sidey
172 Posted 10/12/2012 at 11:32:10
DISCLAIMER: I watched the game on tele.

Michael, I think the BBC were getting their info from Sky, as they didn't advertise the yellow until after he'd been subbed - got caught up in the euphoria, I guess. Rules are rules, but I don't think Jela gave four fifths of a shit. Did anyone else notice him snatch the supporter's hat?

A few debates on here, but I can't understand how anyone can think we didn't deserve three points.

Coleman had his best game in a Blue shirt; defensively he is not getting enough credit for this game. He was immense.

Fellaini wasn't quiet, he just played a different game to his current style, and I think it's performances like last night that will get him the BPL player of the season nod – not even being biased. He actually left the ball to Pienaar for the goal, which showed maturity and vision, as he wasn't likely to get a good hit on it like his teammate had with the run-up.

I'm almost 180 on Moyes now after he subbed Osman for Tolos; I never thought he'd do that and it proved fruitful. I'm also nearly 180 on Jags. For a few years he's been uninspiring and overrated. This season he's our best defender.

To end, a story. My cousin supports Spurs, and he was sending me very smug texts after they scored. When Pienaar scored I sent him "oh that must hurt", to which he replied these two messages over the next 60 seconds: "I'll take a draw", "Okay, I won't". Nothing better than live texting while the Toffs are doing their thing.

Jim Clinton
173 Posted 10/12/2012 at 12:45:01
Peanut butter Jelly time
Peanut butter Jelly time
Peanut butter Jelly time
Peanut butter Jelly time
Ian Bennett
174 Posted 10/12/2012 at 13:48:34
Roman - I'll bow to that summary. I had to put up with Radio commentary and 4 mins on MotD2 due to the kids!
Patrick Murphy
175 Posted 10/12/2012 at 13:49:30
The BBC the same organisation that thought that Suarez's goal celebration at Goodison was hilarious have been involved with an argument with ex-united player Paddy Crerand, they said that many people had contacted them to complain that Rio Ferdinand was guilty of over celebration and that is why some idiotic person threw a coin at him. When PC challenged the interviewer to give him the exact number of complainants the interviewer was unable or unwilling to do so.

dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2245799/Manchester-United-legend-Paddy-Crerand-radio-outburst

Funny how the BBC always criticise the 2 clubs who kop-ites love to hate!

I believe that Michael Owen also tipped our loveable neighbours to end up in fourth place, well it certainly helps when the officials insist on hampering your challengers doesn't it?



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