Baines and Fellaini off limits?
“We're confident Baines and Fellaini will be with us next season,” a senior Everton source revealed.
“The chairman and manager had very constructive talks last week, and while we couldn't do anything to prevent David joining United, we have been able to gain an agreement that means nothing will be done to unsettle Leighton and Marouane.
“We need our best players here for whoever takes over the reins. So selling our best assets is not an option.”
The news will be welcome relief for Everton fans, who have become increasingly concerned in recent days that the exit of Moyes could lead to an exodus of the club's most talented players — starting with Baines and Fellaini.
“Both are critical to the future success of Everton,” added the source. “They are integral to our plans going forward.”
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197 Posted 14/05/2013 at 14:28:00
There again, it's not good news if you were hoping for big money from the sale of these two to reinvigorate the side!!!
201 Posted 14/05/2013 at 14:31:55
204 Posted 14/05/2013 at 14:34:11
207 Posted 14/05/2013 at 14:36:20
209 Posted 14/05/2013 at 14:42:53
210 Posted 14/05/2013 at 14:43:24
212 Posted 14/05/2013 at 14:45:45
As for Baines, he's coming up for 29 years old. If we could squeeze £15 million from someone, then take it and give Oviedo a chance.
214 Posted 14/05/2013 at 14:47:41
215 Posted 14/05/2013 at 14:30:59
It would also (by me anyway) be much appreciated and I would consider this Moyes doing us a favour.
When he stated Everton would 'always have a special place', etc, I wondered (and I think posted) along the lines 'let's see if that's just words or will be back it up with actions' (or in this case, LACK of actions).
Whatever we think of his football, I think most see him as a decent principled man and (given the circumstances) this would be, I believe, be the decent thing to do (or not do..type stuff).
Anyway, I hope it's true as any money we got from their sales will/would just mean having to replace them.
But as Michael says, a rumour so..wait and see I suppose.
218 Posted 14/05/2013 at 14:48:27
219 Posted 14/05/2013 at 14:50:25
223 Posted 14/05/2013 at 14:54:34
226 Posted 14/05/2013 at 14:53:04
230 Posted 14/05/2013 at 14:54:40
233 Posted 14/05/2013 at 15:04:58
234 Posted 14/05/2013 at 15:06:43
Let's get a new manager sorted and then worry about the playing staff, the new guy may not even want Fellaini – he may want the £25M+ instead to spend on other players....
Baines I would keep but if silly money is being offered for a 28/29-year-old defender, I'd take it.
236 Posted 14/05/2013 at 14:53:11
I'm fascinated already by next season. As much as I loved DM at Everton I hope he falls flat on his face over there. I've heard phone ins when Manure fans were calling for Fergie's head after they'd won 2-0 how will he cope with the kind of pressure that was lacking from BK? We should have a sweepstake for when the phrase 'out of his depth' is first used in the media.
242 Posted 14/05/2013 at 14:56:30
"I won't stand in your way so long as you agree not to take all our best players..."
"Of course I won't - thanks Bill"
Bollocks, Never happened.
Point 1: if any of those players want to go, its them that will instigate the move through their agents, and there's fuck all we could do.
Point 2. If they did, good luck to them, so long as we get fair whack for them and the new boss gets to spend it
Point 3. This whole soundbite is designed to make it seem as if Billy and Bobby held any cards regarding Moyes' departure, which they evidently did not. Pair of clueless tossers.
And the suggestion that they have "future plans" is a weak joke.
All that said, I think the timing of the move is the best thing that could have happened for all concerned. David Moyes is an even-better man than he is a manager, and I respect him deeply, but for me he had gone stale, and was clearly not committed, so change was needed.
Either someone comes in with fresh ideas and adds the swagger and belief needed to take a good team to the next level, maybe attracting a buyer in the process... or it implodes spectacularly: in which case Bluffer Bill and his abject assemblage of halfwit cronies will have lost their heatshield and will get hounded out of Goodison in disgrace.
COYB, and don't change the fucking badge either!!
243 Posted 14/05/2013 at 15:14:47
If we keep the nucleus of this team with just a few fresh faces then I believe the new Manager will have enough to work with.
244 Posted 14/05/2013 at 15:11:45
Once Moyes goes to Man Utd, his one and only priority will be doing what's best for his new club. If he refuses to chase players who could improve his new team - just because they play for his old club (EFC) - then he won't be doing his job properly. Man Utd are in competition with us, broadly speaking. How can he say to his new bosses at Man Utd, "Yeah, we need a new LB and Baines is the best around, but I'm not going to go for him because I've still got a soft spot for The Toffees"? He can't, obviously.
I think DM is a honest and decent man - but he's not a bloody saint!
247 Posted 14/05/2013 at 15:25:53
249 Posted 14/05/2013 at 15:34:48
But I've been really impressed with him in centre midfield recently, much rather him there than further forward.
252 Posted 14/05/2013 at 15:40:02
254 Posted 14/05/2013 at 15:36:25
258 Posted 14/05/2013 at 15:45:18
Now, at Man U, one of the worlds biggest club, will be under the microscope of the media, will be expected to be challenging and winning all major comps, Man U fans don't want him there, so right away he will be under huge pressure from them. So, you could understand why some will say he could be out of his depth, as I say, the Man U fans are already saying that.
259 Posted 14/05/2013 at 15:46:39
262 Posted 14/05/2013 at 15:54:45
264 Posted 14/05/2013 at 15:59:45
Utd have started to believe their own press and have chosen an honourable man to carry on Fergie's traditions. Whereas, in reality, Fergie was a tyrannical C**t who wasn't afraid to adopt the more cynical side of the game. That doesn't sound like Davey to me.
I think he's being set up to fail. The smart money was always on the man who followed the man who followed Fergie. why would that change all of a sudden?
266 Posted 14/05/2013 at 16:00:36
270 Posted 14/05/2013 at 15:49:17
272 Posted 14/05/2013 at 16:07:25
If Moyes fails spectacularly, Ferguson will even be brought back as the interim manager.
Meantime, he will hang around like Banquo’s ghost until the time comes for him to be measured for a coffin. The only way he will leave that place is in a wooden box.
Do I sympathise with Moysie? On his wages, no.
By the way, am I the only one to find the media coverage of what is currently happening at the Manure completely vomit-inducing?
274 Posted 14/05/2013 at 16:00:53
Also a side comment. Seeing some other reports that Moyes plans to meet with other Man U players, staff in the next few days & weeks. Why is he doing this on 'Company' time? His contract starts July 1st, there shouldn't be any Man U work done before then as the announcer on Sunday rightly reminded us all that he is still the CURRENT Everton manager.
I'm also thinking that depending on tonight's result, there could be an approach to Martinez tomorrow if Arsenal win.
275 Posted 14/05/2013 at 16:13:04
277 Posted 14/05/2013 at 16:12:46
United have apparently coveted Baines for some time. Moyes is obviously a big fan of our best player. Rooney wants to leave United. Maybe Moyes wont be able to persuade him to stay.
So.............. what if Rooney wanted to return to his beloved Everton?
OK, I know about wages, market value etc. - but, lets just say a deal was possible, my question to Evertonians is this :-
Which player would, in your opinion, be of most value to Everton next season - Baines or Rooney?
278 Posted 14/05/2013 at 16:25:26
280 Posted 14/05/2013 at 16:23:09
282 Posted 14/05/2013 at 16:25:47
284 Posted 14/05/2013 at 16:29:50
285 Posted 14/05/2013 at 16:20:58
John # 264 - Moyes had a stark reminder yesterday of the pressure he is under now. Fergie shouting for 3 league wins on the bounce, and the manager of City has just had his P45 handed to him for finishing 2nd, and reaching a Cup Final.
You can't tell me he didn't look at that news and take a little gulp!
The media glare at that club must be incredible - with half the press looking for an angle on why Rooney wants to leave before Moyes has even stepped through the door.
I honestly don't envy him that job, unless you win the League it will be seen as a failure, especially if a large proportion of the fanbase are not on board from the start.
289 Posted 14/05/2013 at 16:35:40
292 Posted 14/05/2013 at 16:35:08
293 Posted 14/05/2013 at 16:43:49
297 Posted 14/05/2013 at 16:43:19
As an aside - I heard it was Rooney who let the cat out of the bag about Sir's departure, that's why he was dropped from their squad for Swansea.
Even if not true, I didn't think it made any sense to announce it with two League games left to go. Apparently Sir's send off was supposed to be in a friendly against Real Madrid in the summer.
301 Posted 14/05/2013 at 16:48:21
Brian 284 - exactly.
302 Posted 14/05/2013 at 16:50:52
303 Posted 14/05/2013 at 16:47:37
313 Posted 14/05/2013 at 17:14:31
328 Posted 14/05/2013 at 17:21:00
335 Posted 14/05/2013 at 17:35:50
As regards this thread, utter garbage. There is no way Moyes agreed to this. If he rates a player then his role at the new club dictates that he must try to improve his team. not stand back and let let Chelsea, City or Arsenal improve theirs.
I hope he stays away from our youth, Barkley et all.
338 Posted 14/05/2013 at 17:58:36
339 Posted 14/05/2013 at 18:00:24
340 Posted 14/05/2013 at 17:46:18
Moyes has shown ambition why should these lads be any different?
"Their man" is now in charge I don't see it as Moyes pursuing them - quite the reverse - literally.
341 Posted 14/05/2013 at 17:59:37
As far as this story is concerned, Kenwright has no hold over Davey. He is not releasing him from his contract which expires the day before he takes charge at OT. He is therefore free to sign whoever SAF and the Man Utd Board allows him to!
343 Posted 14/05/2013 at 18:03:36
We got PN for next to nothing and look how well that turned out. If he bids then whatever, no player of man is bigger than this club and if we manage to pick up a bargain then happy days.
344 Posted 14/05/2013 at 18:07:09
345 Posted 14/05/2013 at 17:41:12
And as a result, I should not be greatly surprised if Moyes did not refrain from "tapping up" players (another lowlife specialty of the RS).
What would be best of all, however, would be if Moyes were to use the undoubted influence of ManU to initiate a massive clean-up in the game. No more diving, no more attempted rape in the penality area (why does Carragher / Lescott spring to mind?), no attacking the referee (or at least a great rash of yellow then red cards being brandished when it happens).
I, for one, consider David Moyes to be probably the most honest, decent manager I have ever seen in top flight football. He may have been a bit defensive, he may have made some poor tactical decisions, he may not have encouraged the right players and stuck with some whom others think were less than the best. This is not to disparage any of our previous managers or suggest that they were anything less than honest, but Moyes' behaviour with respect to Neville, Fellaini (who has been sorely provoked on many occasions) has been exemplary.
Perhaps he can not only win stuff at Old Trafford, but bring about a sea change in the game he obviously loves.
347 Posted 14/05/2013 at 18:12:06
Pereira is dealing with talented players, therefore a good choice to welcome him here.
352 Posted 14/05/2013 at 18:00:49
353 Posted 14/05/2013 at 18:31:17
364 Posted 14/05/2013 at 18:35:30
According to Moyes he'll make a decision about his contract at the end of the season - in the summer - and NOT BEFORE!
Previously it was January and before that suspicions of keeping his options open were dismissed out of hand.
The idea Ferguson told the Glazers in Feb and kept Davey in the dark till a few days ago is a hoot.
In 10 years when the Moyes biography comes out the words "fergie confided in me 18 months previous ...." will loom large.
366 Posted 14/05/2013 at 18:54:07
377 Posted 14/05/2013 at 18:59:10
387 Posted 14/05/2013 at 19:31:47
According to the Echo.
EVERTON FC stars got a little confused when they headed out in Manchester to celebrate their last home game – at the same time as their Manchester United rivals.
For a host of Blues stars, in the city to mark Phil Neville’s departure from the club, mistakenly headed to Neighbourhood on Spinningfields – where United had booked their big celebration after winning the Premier League.
Everton’s bash was actually taking place at Neighbourhood’s sister venue, Southern Eleven, around the corner.
It left Blues stars Marouane Fellaini, Sylvain Distin and Kevin Mirallas a little red-faced after they entered Neighbourhood, only to be told they were at the wrong footballer party.
They swiftly headed back to Southern Eleven to join up with the rest of the Toffees to party.
394 Posted 14/05/2013 at 19:41:50
Are you having a laugh? Low bids based on their ages?
Baines is 28, which is a fine age for an attacking left back.
Jagielka is 30, which is a fine age for a central defender.
I don't think any premiership club would have a problem with offering either of them a 4 year contract.
403 Posted 14/05/2013 at 19:46:24
Either way, I'm just fucking sick of us being linked with Man utd in every way – please can we just fuck them all off and lets get back to Everton?
In fact, get both Moyes and Neville out sharpish (okay, and Kenwright too), we need men who believe Everton should not be (and are not) in any way inferior to any of them horrible twats, now let's look forward and start looking to turn them all over every time...
Remember – we are only 12 years from winning more titles than them!!
414 Posted 14/05/2013 at 20:17:18
As for Baines, perhaps the earlie posters are correct, with a big money offer it could be worth taking it given he's not young.
488 Posted 14/05/2013 at 21:18:20
Hopefully Moyes will have plenty of pennies to spend abroad on the likes of Benzema, Lewandoski etc to forget about our boys.
572 Posted 14/05/2013 at 22:13:13
That's my point. Unless he ships them out.
So no Im not having a laugh. He is not dealing with Kenwright anymore. It is a massive public company and he is accountable to shareholders, so the free reign over transfers will likely not apply .
Therefore , I will stick to my opinion. Expect a low bid if one comes in />
578 Posted 14/05/2013 at 21:41:47
Let's get on with it and start the new era on a positive rather the looking back at DM. He's decided what he's doing for the next 6 years, leave him to it, especially when he's already doing the 'devils' work in keeping Rooney on...
I want Europe next year...
602 Posted 14/05/2013 at 22:37:19
612 Posted 14/05/2013 at 22:37:12
694 Posted 15/05/2013 at 01:47:40
As for Bainsey, ahhh, please don't go
698 Posted 15/05/2013 at 01:44:22
why the hell would the young kids follow Moyes to Man U?
He never played them!
The younger players are probably happier than pigs in shit.
705 Posted 15/05/2013 at 03:48:34
I am afraid he will taking them to Manure!!
710 Posted 15/05/2013 at 06:03:47
Let's hope BK ringfenced them!
722 Posted 15/05/2013 at 08:33:27
805 Posted 15/05/2013 at 12:01:31
930 Posted 15/05/2013 at 15:34:48
I'd take Fellaini over Carrick.
933 Posted 15/05/2013 at 15:50:40
934 Posted 15/05/2013 at 15:51:26
935 Posted 15/05/2013 at 15:53:43
938 Posted 15/05/2013 at 15:55:43
939 Posted 15/05/2013 at 15:22:59
I don't believe there was an agreement between the two, it's just not Kenwright-like to limit opportunities of player sales. I also don't necessarily believe this is something Moyes is doing out of respect of our club or the chairman; it's more likely that Moyes and Ferguson have discussed the future of the current Man Utd squad and have decided for whatever reason these two players are not required. Maybe Baines is considered too old for the money being mentioned and maybe Fellaini is just too expensive and that Ferguson would like to see some of the other midfielders develop.
Call me cynical but I think Kenwright has received this news from Moyes and twisted it to look like Moyes is doing an honourable thing and more importantly to appear that Kenwright has the club's best intentions at heart. Don't be surprised when he does sell these two and bleeds his heart out that he did his best to keep them but couldn't turn down the money that was offered and that he didn't want to stand in the way of the players and there ambitions who have been good servants to the club.
974 Posted 15/05/2013 at 16:41:10
Sell Baines. buy a £5 mil Left back and a£8-10 mil attacking mid.
027 Posted 15/05/2013 at 18:38:07
038 Posted 15/05/2013 at 18:46:05
180 Posted 15/05/2013 at 22:38:24
307 Posted 16/05/2013 at 09:21:03
315 Posted 16/05/2013 at 09:22:12
373 Posted 16/05/2013 at 12:22:10
376 Posted 16/05/2013 at 12:30:50
Not that I'm cynical of course..... ;-)
631 Posted 16/05/2013 at 21:54:10
684 Posted 16/05/2013 at 23:58:06
687 Posted 17/05/2013 at 00:03:05
688 Posted 17/05/2013 at 00:01:24
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