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2 Posted 23/10/2016 at 16:00:43
3 Posted 23/10/2016 at 16:07:21
4 Posted 23/10/2016 at 17:02:21
But it could be a tough learning curve for players and manager here. We've had too many poor results already after a pretty promising start. Let's hope they still believe in themselves as it would be quite easy for heads to drop now after 5 without a win.
5 Posted 23/10/2016 at 18:44:29
6 Posted 23/10/2016 at 19:57:19
7 Posted 23/10/2016 at 20:24:35
Fair enough to get angry, frustrated and upset, but go away and get it out of your system before posting such hysterical nonsense.
8 Posted 23/10/2016 at 20:37:54
10 Posted 24/10/2016 at 09:25:18
11 Posted 24/10/2016 at 10:44:02
What is obvious from the first 9 games is that the current manager took over a team that were no better than mid-table. For all his subsequent disappointments and troubles in management, Moyes left us in far better shape than Martinez did.
To go from a 6th- /8th-placed team to a top-4 team is going to take time and a couple of successful transfer windows.
The last window was a limited success but a bit of panic broke out on the last day with the chase for the Newcasle midfielder at crazy money, which was not the way Walsh operated at Leicester or the way Ronald operated at Southampton.
12 Posted 24/10/2016 at 15:29:27
We conceded 1.4 goals per game last season. Measurable and steady progress in anybody's book, I would suggest, only nine games into Koeman's tenure.
13 Posted 24/10/2016 at 17:11:22
Jagielka should have been sold to Sunderland for Kone. Barry may be a great player but we still look shakey at the back so what is going on there?
I'm happy for the team to continue to develop and perhaps another 8 to 10 games may see some improvement. Not sure why the team that did so well at Man City was changed.
14 Posted 24/10/2016 at 18:21:46
We need a small nippy Defoe type in the box to complement Lukaku's power. I also think it might be time to give Funes Mori a game alongside Williams.
There are no so-called 'easy' games in the Premier League but, if we want European Football and can't beat Bournemouth, Burnley and Palace, then we don't deserve it. 8 points dropped to these teams would have had us doing a Leicester...
15 Posted 24/10/2016 at 22:00:23
I would like to see Lennon given a run, as he has always done ok for us, and I don't think Koeman has given him a fair crack yet. And Bolasie has to play, particularly after we spent £30 million on him. But as a minimum, we need a number 10 and a striker. Hopefully we can do some business in January.
Unless we can bring some players in, we will struggle to break into the top 6. I do believe we will finish in the top half though. Between now and next season, Koeman must make his own mark on the squad, and phase out some of the Martinez driftwood. For me, this includes Barkley, Gibson, Mirallas and Deulofeu. We need some ruthless new additions who do the business every week, not players who flutter to deceive or can't last 90 minutes.
16 Posted 25/10/2016 at 04:50:22
I don't agree with the rest of your post, though; this holding out for the salvation that comes in the next transfer window. I can't believe Lyndon is buying into this nonsense too, but I guess there's an imperative to keep the mythos alive, and the perennial hope that all our problems will be solved in the next transfer window.
To me, it would be hilarious if it wasn't so sad how people throw out names of all these players they want to see at Everton, as if it was some kind of referendum, the one with he most mentions gets picked by Steve Walsh.
We have no influence... zero... zilch on who comes to Everton. Heck, judging by the last fiasco, even Walsh, Koeman and Moshiri aren't in control. I mean, Bolasie? Sissoko?? Valencia??? Total desperation. These are not and never will be Everton players. And half of you believe this is going to fix the issues in our team? Sorry... I just don't geddit.
We have a squad of highly paid professional footballers, ffs. No more excuses. They need to perform. Getting them to play as a team is Koeman's job.
17 Posted 25/10/2016 at 05:18:53
18 Posted 25/10/2016 at 08:12:48
If it was Koeman's,decision to let him go, I would seriously begin to question just what our new manager is looking for up front. This lad is good, a full international and is clearly seen as being of a high enough standard for the Bundesliga, which I watch regularly and where the standard is as good as the Premier League despite some people thinking ours is the best league in the world.
The guy should be here playing for his parent club, not going off on loan like some youth player looking to make the grade. With limited striking options, I just can't understand why he was sent to Germany.
19 Posted 25/10/2016 at 08:36:07
20 Posted 25/10/2016 at 09:14:49
21 Posted 25/10/2016 at 09:23:45
Why should we expect Koeman to be any different? Clearly none of them are good enough and should all be replaced, we're stuck with them for the moment though, so it will take time, before we can move forward.
22 Posted 25/10/2016 at 09:33:47
You criticize some posters for throwing out names of players we should sign in the next transfer window. Then go on to say Bolasie and Valencia are not Everton players. You also put Sissoko in that category well Pochettino isn't a bad judge and he rates him just like Koeman did.
I would be interested to hear what is an Everton type of player, of the ones available for us to sign.
23 Posted 25/10/2016 at 10:00:27
On signing for Everton earlier this year, Martinez sent him back to Grasshoppers of Switzerland from whom he was signed last January. There he scored 3 goals in 15 games.
I suggest to you that his style and role is rather akin to that of Naisy rather than that of an all-out attacker and is he better than what we have here? I doubt very much we shall ever have the chance to find out!
24 Posted 25/10/2016 at 10:12:19
Yes, future signings should create even further improvement, but IMO the current squad should be sufficient to get decent results, especially against the likes of Burnley. What seems to be lacking still is overall gelling of the team, which Koeman will hopefully sort out.
25 Posted 25/10/2016 at 10:18:47
Certainly they have all had 'good' games even Niasse had one the other day, albeit for the kids but seem incapable of 'getting their arses into gear' on anything like a regular basis.
Most of our players are of similar ilk and whilst Ranieri proved miracles can happen, I very much doubt one will occur at Goodison any time soon.
26 Posted 25/10/2016 at 10:35:57
I think you are right about Sissoko and Valencia but Bolasie I can't have that. I think he is a cracking player.
27 Posted 25/10/2016 at 10:47:33
28 Posted 25/10/2016 at 10:51:42
Tim Cahill playing for Melbourne City against Melbourne Victory in the Australian FA Cup semi-final. He hasn't changed. GO TIMMY GO!!
Apologies to any Melbourne Victory fans by the way!!
29 Posted 25/10/2016 at 13:22:04
And now your " I guess there's an imperative to keep the mythos alive" - a reasonable brew if kept lively.
But (regarding players people on TW want to sign) "We have no influence... zero... zilch...". But then why comment on anything at all that we have no control over - manager, chairman, tactics, stadium (moderator!). It's the fun of TW.
30 Posted 25/10/2016 at 15:25:16
Trevor Peers (#21), I totally agree. Mirallas is 27 but has spent most of his career in and out of the team and not fulfilling his potential. Geri looks like he has all the tools and the pace but hugely lacking in his commitment and effort.
I always think that if you compare the attitude of Coleman who had to fight a lot harder in life to make it as a professional footballer to the likes of Lukaku, Deulofeu and Barkley who seem much more laid back and couldn't be arsed half the time. Did they earn their big bucks too young and don't appreciate putting in the effort???
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1 Posted 23/10/2016 at 15:01:07
I can't believe we lost that game but lose it we did. Let's not throw the baby out with the bathwater, eh, kids? Now pick up teddy and behave yourselves.