Ross Barkley keeps his place in the side after being substituted at half-time against Sunderland on Monday
Everton 3 - 1 Middlesbrough
Everton celebrated Gareth Barry making his 600th Premier League appearance with an unchanged team from the Monday outing to Sunderland. Barkley retained his starting place, with a strong-looking bench ready to answer Koeman's calls.
Enner Valencia was named as one of the substitutes, preferred over Arouna Kone, while Cleverley reappears, edging out Tom Davies. Funes Mori and Holgate must bide their time with Williams and Jagielka forming and increasingly strong partnership at the back. A former product of the Everton Academy, Adam Forshaw, figured for the visitors.
Boro drove forward from the kick-off and won the first corner, Barry heading it away. Everton's early play was fairly scrappy as they looked to settle, playing it out of the back and looking for Barkley, who needed to show more drive. Coleman fouled Friend wide right, the free-kick delivered well and flicked on by Downing but wide.
Boro were doing an effective job of keeping Everton away from their area, while pressing high into Everton's half. A little too much pass the parcel when the home side did get the ball, Barkley eventually taking the initiative but again the ball was played backwards until a loose pass forward yielded possession.
Forshaw was onto Barkley as he turned and advanced. Play was tight down the right but Gana won a corner on 13 minutes, Mirallas putting in a nice one that Jagielka headed behind off his shoulder. Everton were still unable to penetrate forward, and Barry lost the ball, almost in with a shot on Stekelenburg. Bolasie had a chance to release Lukaku but overhit the pass, as the Blues struggled to find their rhythm.
Barkley was playing deep and got space to move but chose to pass rather than advance but at least the Blues finally drove into the Boro area from open play, but only briefly. But much better play followed, with Barkley making space and hammering a very hard shot at Valdes to enliven the crowd. Next, Barkley fed Mirallas, who ran on and shot at Valdes, the tempo improving by another notch.
But a cross in from Boro, Negredo appeared to head it out of Steklnburg's hands and into the the net... was it actually a foul? cf Andy Gray in the 1984 FA Cup Final for Everton. Stekelenburg was booked for dissent as the Blues tried in vain to persuade Lee Mason to rule the goal out.
From another good Mirallas corner, the ball ricocheted around the Boro goal area, fell to Barry and a superb left-foot strike from a tight angle into the roof of the Boro net put Everton level again after just two minutes, Williams possibly fouling Valdes in the process.
Much more spirited play form Everton saw Barkley advance and create another chance for himself (rather than playing it back to an expectant Lukaku on the edge of the area) firing sharply but over. Everton continued to press well, finally pushing Boro back deep. Some excellent play from Barry, robbing Negredo, as the fans on 30 minutes celebrated the life of 30-year season ticket holder Derek Acker, who died at the Stoke game.
Gana was scythed down in midfield, but the free-kick was cleared; however, most of the play was now in the Boro half, with Everton looking for their second goal, Barkley doing well to pass to Lukaku's feet, but the Big Man was being tightly marked, as Everton allowed their build-up play to slow down again. But Barkley turned his man and drove in, taking perhaps and extra touch that allowed defenders to get in and block his shot.
More pass the parcel at the back as the Blues sought to make space but Boro were making it difficult and the Blues were far from controlling things. Boro were allowed to charge forward, the shot flying high over the bar. Barkley started another forward move but it broke down, however, Coleman picked up the ball and showed how it should be done, skipping along the line of the Boro area and slotting nicely beyond Valdes, just inside the post.
Downing tried to make amends, his hard shot flying off Jagielka for a corner, the Blues needing to be solid at the back. Bolasie did well to dispossess Friend but then lost the ball. Forshaw then went in with studs showing on Ashley Williams. Good play from Gana and Boalsie saw the ball crossed to Lukaku in an advanced position, and he claimed a touch as the ball bounced past Valdes into the net. Barry was booked for blocking Barragan as the Blues went in at the break with a handsome two-goal lead.
No changes at the break and it was Barkley in an advanced position, wrongly called offside. Lukaku looked to break forward but was driven wide as the Blues pressed well from the off. Bolasie did well to get wide but his cross was not good enough. Coleman chased a lost ball and almost made it pay off. But the game was scrappy with an ugly spell of head-tennis until Baines got forward, winning a corner. Barkley with some great play, setting up Mirallas not once but twice, both wasted.
Barkley did very well to win the ball and jink into space before lashing a low shot that Valdes had to save down to his right. David Nugent came on for Boro as Everton's tempo of passing slowed around the hour mark.
Barkley and Gana did well to stifle a run of Nugent but the ball was not rolling well for the Blues as Boro had something of a resurgence. Mirallas finally ran at the red shirts, the ball bouncing off Lukaku then Barkley with neither taking a shot. Lukaku was kicked in the leg, and it was the opportunity for Enner Valencia to make his Everton debut.
Everton looked better for the fresh legs of Valenacia who tried to set up Barkley, Barragan tackling him for a corner. More fresh legs as Deulofeu replaced Mirallas, who had put in a pretty good stint, having lost 13 lbs under instruction from Koeman!
The imperative seemed to have waned, however, judging by the awful cross put in by Bolasie after some good work in the build-up. Given the ball again, Bolasie ran into a cul-de-sac and gave up possession, leading to a cross that Stekelenburg had to field. Boro had not given up by any means and the Blues were in danger of becoming complacent. Stekelenburg was forced to punch as Boro put in a good spell of attacking play.
Barkley again tried to get the Blues going forward but Bolasie stalled and went backward, inviting more Boro attacks. It was walking pace at times as the Blues payed it back to Stekelenburg far too often and showed no forward intent, with 10 minutes still left.
It was fairly uneventful as Everton ran down the cliock, Gareth Barry going off to a tremendous ovation as 2 minutes of added time were played out sealing a solid win on the back of a rather restrained second half that could have been much better. Still, 3 points consolidate 2nd place behind Manchester City.
Everton (4-2-3-1): Stekelenburg [Y:23']; Coleman, Williams, Jagielka, Baines; Gueye, Barry [Y:45'] (90' Cleverley); Mirallas (72' Deulofeu), Barkley, Bolasie; Lukaku (66' Valencia).
Subs not Used: Robles, Lennon, Funes Mori, Holgate.
Middlesbrough (4-2-3-1): Valdes; Barragan, Ayala [Y:37'], Gibson, Friend; De Roon, Forshaw (84' Clayton); Nsue (56' Nugent), Ramirez (70' Fischer) , Downing; Negredo.
Subs not Used: Guzan, Espinosa, Chambers,T raore.
Referee: Lee Mason
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1 Posted 17/09/2016 at 16:38:22
2 Posted 17/09/2016 at 16:48:56
I just hope he's learned a lesson and up's his game to the level we know he should be at, and not just strolling around hoping his team mates will do the business.
3 Posted 17/09/2016 at 17:00:45
However no doubt he'll play a blinder and I'll be eating my words... Hopefully.
Feel sorry for Deulofeu. Did well when he came on last week and gets no recognition for it.
4 Posted 17/09/2016 at 17:00:50
Ross had one bad half, much like Mirallas and Lukaku. I don't actually think Deulofeu did enough to win a starting berth anyway.
I'm still fearing the worst for Barkley's career... but let's not throw the towel in just yet.
6 Posted 17/09/2016 at 17:05:37
9 Posted 17/09/2016 at 17:24:02
10 Posted 17/09/2016 at 17:54:45
Pivotal game this, we need to learn how to come back from behind and make this place a fortress again.
Get in there, Barry!
11 Posted 17/09/2016 at 18:03:18
12 Posted 17/09/2016 at 18:19:29
13 Posted 17/09/2016 at 18:21:14
Next week, Man City to slip up and we'll be top of the league. Happy days.
14 Posted 17/09/2016 at 18:21:35
15 Posted 17/09/2016 at 18:22:03
Gana is superb again.
16 Posted 17/09/2016 at 18:22:51
17 Posted 17/09/2016 at 18:23:11
18 Posted 17/09/2016 at 18:23:26
20 Posted 17/09/2016 at 18:56:26
Craig @18 Barkley is much better just like him to win a few more of his challenges... been good on the ball though.
Mirallas to be hooked.
21 Posted 17/09/2016 at 19:02:00
Deulofeu love that haircut I'm jealous!
22 Posted 17/09/2016 at 19:17:42
He's every fucking where,
23 Posted 17/09/2016 at 19:22:03
This looks like it will be the best Everton side, in a long time. We just need to surpass 70 points to prove that.
24 Posted 17/09/2016 at 19:39:44
It's like playing with 12 players every week.
25 Posted 17/09/2016 at 19:43:37
No match is an automatic three points obviously, which makes these wins against WBA, Sunderland, Boro and Stoke so valuable. What is great is hearing a player like Barry saying after the match that our expectations should be high and why shouldn't we go after the league. Loving this.
26 Posted 17/09/2016 at 19:46:49
After two seasons of utter shite, I think Koeman has got our players believing in themselves again. We had a good core squad already and he's added quality where needed. We'll be knocking on the door of the Champions League places for certain this season.
27 Posted 17/09/2016 at 19:47:48
Nice also to see Coleman getting back to his best. Let's hope Lukaku's knock wasn't anything serious.
28 Posted 17/09/2016 at 19:49:31
The reason given by Lineker for the Arsenal game on before us there were controversial decisions in the Gunners match, and our match was shown on live TV.
Now maybe I'm missing something but we had a bit of a controversial decision for their goal and wasn't the Gunners Hull match shown on Sky Sports????
29 Posted 17/09/2016 at 19:53:44
The way we started the 2nd half, we looked intent on racking up more goals, but in the end just strolled through to the final whislte.
If we can play well for just 20 minutes every game, establish a 3-1 half time lead and comfortably see out the 2nd half without anxiety for the remainder of the season, I think I'd settle for that.
Sound management by RK to retain Ross. He had a good game.
30 Posted 17/09/2016 at 19:54:39
31 Posted 17/09/2016 at 19:59:46
We now have really top class players now but I'm not sure what bad injuries to Gana, Barry or Lukaku would do to us. I really think we are much the poorer when Lukaku isn't in the team.
32 Posted 17/09/2016 at 20:04:06
For those slating Lukaku as lazy, his moving out of the 18 taking his defender with him (why the defender went that far is beyond me?) opened up the space for Coleman to run into. Pretty good finish too by Coleman. No more arguments about him being brought back into the squad for Holgate I hope.
33 Posted 17/09/2016 at 20:05:20
One good example from the commentator today was that Mirallas has lost 13lb over the summer; during training, Koeman attached a 13lb weight to him and made him realise how difficult it must have been for him carrying that extra lard.
So I have high hopes for a successful season, thanks to our management team and their 'Catterick' style ruthlessness I can't see the players getting away with mediocre performances any more, so it's onwards and upwards, and let's win that elusive first League Cup.
34 Posted 17/09/2016 at 20:06:28
35 Posted 17/09/2016 at 20:07:56
I did not think Barkley would start but he had a very good game; a goal from him would have topped his performance. Bolasie did well first half but disappeared in the second half.
We are still short of another class forward, especially if Lukaku gets injured; Valencia is never going to win balls in the air, is he?
One player who will be none too pleased at the moment with not being first pick will be Funes Mori.
Great we are doing well but we are getting an easy passage at the moment; when we play the money clubs will tell us how good we are.
36 Posted 17/09/2016 at 20:10:00
There's a lot of goals out there tonight and we could be placed anywhere depending on your angle but my understanding was order goes on League Position, Number of Goals and talking points in which case we probably should be on 2nd. Let's face it, if it was Liverpool they'd be right up there.
Great performance today only criticism is we should've made it 6 or 7 which would've (I hope) put us on MotD first. Still, yet to really play the Big Boys
Gareth Barry what a pro congratulations!
Idrissa Gana Gueye if he continues this form, he is a pure diamond what a cracking footballer.
And Ronald Koeman lessons on how to shape a football team. We could have a real class act on our hands here.
Super, super stuff.
37 Posted 17/09/2016 at 20:12:02
Apart from their goal, which was a bit dubious. I thought the ref played it quite well.
Interestingly the TV half-time re-run showed Andy Gray's Wembley goal and honestly there was nothing to chose between them. Anyway, 3 more points and 2nd place and it's looking good so far.
38 Posted 17/09/2016 at 20:12:10
39 Posted 17/09/2016 at 20:15:10
Ronald has really got them thinking they should be ambitious and worthy of the upper echelons. Obviously we expected to beat Boro but the main thing is we did it rather than look back with a "should've beat them" afterwards. We should do the same at Bournemouth next weekend and really start to cement our credentials.
Once again, Gueye proved that you can cost pittance and come from a shite relegated team but be the standout player. I hope the naysayers are (no doubt happily) eating their humble pie.
40 Posted 17/09/2016 at 20:15:13
I'm loving it!
41 Posted 17/09/2016 at 20:15:51
All those "marquee" non-signings that turned their noses up at EFC recently will be begging to join us next summer!!
42 Posted 17/09/2016 at 20:17:25
However, there were some super performances, particularly from Gueye, and Barry and Seamus. Barkley also had a good game which is to his credit given all of the talk about him.
2nd in the league!
43 Posted 17/09/2016 at 20:19:02
It's a great feeling being 2nd. Only going to get stronger with Koeman in charge. Well happy that Ross looked good today after being taken off on Monday night. Coyb
44 Posted 17/09/2016 at 20:19:37
Didn't see our game and I reckon we're not an option on Match Choice (?) so MotD will have to do.
Koeman's interview after the game; I could listen to his honesty all night.
45 Posted 17/09/2016 at 20:21:09
We won so I'll excuse the ref for not getting it right. I can't excuse the tossers commentating who watched it several times and still suggested that it should stand. Ridiculous.
46 Posted 17/09/2016 at 20:22:02
47 Posted 17/09/2016 at 20:25:28
Don't start that lark. I hate this "easy start, hard finish" shite. Did we not have enough of that last season? They are all hard games.
This has always been a decent squad of players. Koeman has added the Viagra.
Give it a rest lad, nobody is slating Lukaku.
Nothing deluded about it, they will finish 3rd... not far behind us.
48 Posted 17/09/2016 at 20:25:31
Negredo didn't touch the ball. He headed Stek. It was a foul.
49 Posted 17/09/2016 at 20:25:36
50 Posted 17/09/2016 at 20:25:46
51 Posted 17/09/2016 at 20:27:45
Surely you'll admit we'll have tougher games away to Man City, Man Utd, Liverpool and Arsenal than we've had already?
52 Posted 17/09/2016 at 20:27:54
53 Posted 17/09/2016 at 20:28:42
Barkley while showing some improvement from the previous game still spent too much time on the deck, while Bolasie wasn't as influential as he usually is. My MotM was Seamus closely followed by Gueye and Barry while our defence coped well with any opposition threat. All-in-all a fairly satisfactory result but we must show more of a 'killer' instinct if we are to continue a so far excellent start to the new campaign.
54 Posted 17/09/2016 at 20:33:14
If you would have offered me 2 months ago, second in the table after 5 matches with a +7 GD, I would have bitten your hand off and cauterized the wound myself.
We still have some opportunities out there. Our finishing has to be more clinical bodies need to fly if that is what it takes. I think Lukaku is still making his way this season he may be a month away.
Acquiring a "fit" Striker must happen in January. Koeman is correct in his assessment Champions League is not realistic. Our spirit, fight and stamina is leagues better than last season but do we have the assassins to finish the job? Valencia is not ready and Kone's knees are shot. For example, Mirallas, Lukaku and Barkley were in the box at one point, almost running rampant and barely marked but they couldn't tap it in. I have seen this for a few seasons now. Is it bad luck or lack of killer instinct? I understand the ball does its awkward pinball act at times but methodical finishers gobble those up.
I know that may sound a bit negative after our glorious start to the season but we need to be prepared for success. This team is important to my mental and emotional health so I need them to keep winning...
I'm happier with the response after the Boro goal more than I am about the win. We are going to be tough to beat this season. We are organized and relentless in the back. It's almost very old school back there physical and no nonsense. Stekelenburg probably can't believe his good fortune right now to be behind them.
Did I mention that Gana is my love child?
55 Posted 17/09/2016 at 20:34:29
You can only beat what's in front of you and we are doing that.
Its our consistency which counts, I don't care about anybody else's.
56 Posted 17/09/2016 at 20:34:55
I can't get too worked up about MotD, and things will no doubt change on that front anyway if we keep this up.
57 Posted 17/09/2016 at 20:36:19
Stekelenburg 5 – should have been stronger for their goal
Baines 6 – quiet enough game
Williams 6 – steady
Jagielka 6 – solid game
Coleman 7 – got forward and took his goal really well
Bolaise 6.5 – quieter game than the Sunderland one but caused a few problems
Barry 8.5 – well taken goal and great all round play
Gana 9 – exceptional display, covered every blade of grass on the pitch
Barkley 7.5 – good attacking play from Ross, looked a lot more assured
Mirallas 6 – worked hard for the team
Lukaku 7 – claimed the goal his performance deserved.
58 Posted 17/09/2016 at 20:37:27
The team and manager are doing everything that could be asked of them at the moment. There's a difference between something being 'easy' and making something look easy by putting in hard graft and basic prep beforehand. No team in this league is simply there waiting to be rolled over. People at the club are currently putting in the work and getting the rewards.
Results against so-called lesser teams are equally capable of telling you how good or bad you are. Last two seasons the results against those sort of teams, teams we should be 'expected' to beat, told us we were fucking shite.
59 Posted 17/09/2016 at 20:39:53
Koeman is absolutely transforming that set of players into a team that can meet their potential.
The next two games are very winnable and, with Koeman in charge, I am so much more confident that we will do so.
What a transformation from last season's car crash.
60 Posted 17/09/2016 at 20:42:06
Gana and Barry taking it in turns for MotM awards, with the other being a close runner up.
Few idiotic comments at start of thread slating Koeman for keeping faith with Barkley. He has spoken and worked with him since hauling him off at Sunderland. How would he see how Ross reacted if he'd stuck him on the bench? He wanted to see if he is intelligent enough to take advice on board, and he got his answer.
Also, Ross wasn't the only one playing shit in 1st half at Sunderland. The team underperformed, and Mirallas was equally as bad, in my opinion.
Anyway, the team looks quality at the minute, and the new signings have been outstanding, happy man!
61 Posted 17/09/2016 at 20:46:29
It's still probably likely though that the games I've listed will be tougher than the likes of what we've encountered so far.
It's not a big deal for people to say it, I'm just not sure why it bothers you.
62 Posted 17/09/2016 at 20:51:10
63 Posted 17/09/2016 at 21:00:27
It looks like he CAN learn and today is hopefully the beginning of his transformation. He did well after what must have been a difficult week for him.
64 Posted 17/09/2016 at 21:03:53
Important, clinical equaliser and did what he does best. Congrats Gaz, hope there are many more great days for you at Everton.
Gueye was outstanding again, Barkley looked on it and Mirallas is now due an obligatory goal as his record shows so well worth sticking with.
COYB, really feeling good about the club right now, especially if we continue the great community work that has been going on for years.
65 Posted 17/09/2016 at 21:08:52
Much improved, Ross, we all love you. Well done.
66 Posted 17/09/2016 at 21:15:20
I don't believe this 'easy fixtures' stuff. We're beating what's in front of us and getting some consistency and momentum.
The real test will be when injuries and suspensions kick in. A case in point today when Lukaku went off. He didn't have a particularly good game, but we don't seem as effective without him there.
That league table looks good!
67 Posted 17/09/2016 at 21:16:47
68 Posted 17/09/2016 at 21:23:06
Koeman was raving about how brilliantly the team played in closing the game down in the second half in such a controlled manner. I wanted blood and thunder and 3 more goals but he is right and we're wrong; we were superb in the second half.
69 Posted 17/09/2016 at 21:27:38
It seems with a fully fit and firing Rom, he just has to choose the best attacking trio to beat what's in front him!!!
Big Ron, please keep shuffling that attacking threat we carry; we haven't even hit form yet we will be lethal if and when we do.
70 Posted 17/09/2016 at 21:28:40
Gana was MotM again with Barry, Coleman and Baines not far behind. The team as a whole are improving each game but, as most on here appreciate, there are many better teams to face.
71 Posted 17/09/2016 at 21:33:48
Barry was outstanding. Gana was just immense. But I have to say 'What a manager!' most coaches probably would have kept Holgate in the starting eleven and made Coleman fight for his place, given that Holgate was playing well. But the reward for his astuteness was a sublime solo goal, right out of the Lionel Messi scrapbook!
Can't believe we have our Saturday nights back. Wishing all ToffeWebbers and Evertonians a very happy Saturday Night!
72 Posted 17/09/2016 at 21:37:21
We are obviously vulnerable if Lukaku gets injured but this was another very pleasing display. Great to see Coleman firing again and Barry continues to be excellent, but I think Gueye is quite remarkable; his timing and anticipation are like few I've ever seen.
73 Posted 17/09/2016 at 21:41:06
74 Posted 17/09/2016 at 21:42:19
75 Posted 17/09/2016 at 21:46:47
That is an idea of how potent Everton are now. We were absolutely magnificent today in a game we would have lost with last year's mentality. Roll on, Man City, even if it is only to see how good we really are.
76 Posted 17/09/2016 at 21:57:12
He's like a pesky wasp buzzing and harassing opposition incessantly and is JUST what we need, and have needed, for years. This could seriously be the best signing in a generation. Such a great support to Gareth Barry, and brings the best out of all of those around him.
Brilliant. Just brilliant.
77 Posted 17/09/2016 at 22:01:10
78 Posted 17/09/2016 at 22:01:47
79 Posted 17/09/2016 at 22:04:29
I don't particularly care if we don't tonk sides like Sunderland 8-0. I'd rather the team kept their energy levels up and do enough to win comfortably like we did today. As soon as we equalised it was pretty clear we were going to go on and win.
80 Posted 17/09/2016 at 22:04:35
81 Posted 17/09/2016 at 22:10:27
82 Posted 17/09/2016 at 22:10:32
Barry. Gana. Nuff said.
83 Posted 17/09/2016 at 22:14:13
84 Posted 17/09/2016 at 22:14:37
85 Posted 17/09/2016 at 22:16:17
Well happy at the moment. No complaints from me. COYBB!
86 Posted 17/09/2016 at 22:19:39
87 Posted 17/09/2016 at 22:24:02
88 Posted 17/09/2016 at 22:29:58
89 Posted 17/09/2016 at 22:50:41
The big positives were another excellent defensive performance. Ashley Williams looks a great buy, never seems to get out of second gear but gives absolutely nothing away. A huge improvement on Funes Mori.
The midfield three has an excellent balance. Barry really consistent, 600 PL games is some achievement. Barkley had a really good game after his poor 45 minutes on Monday, the lad is definitely worth persevering with and Koeman's handling of him might be the making of him.
Finally, Gana is everybody's favourite new player, I genuinely can't remember who made such an impression in his first five games.
One downside to consider: both Gana and Bolassie could be out for January with AFCON.
90 Posted 17/09/2016 at 23:14:05
Gana is everything I've read about him, and more, some engine he's got. Barry was majestic showing some wonderful bits of close control and 600 games up fantastic achievement.
I thought the Stekelenburg incident was a foul, Negredo clearly headed his arms when he had hold of the ball still but it was a quite ruthless reply from the boys (not a bit like the previous two seasons).
And finally we saw a different Ross, one that IMO has a wonderful future ahead of him at our wonderful club. Well done, lad you can be as good as you want to be... just believe in yourself.
91 Posted 17/09/2016 at 23:16:46
Gana is a marvel with work rate, passing ability and reading of play second to none what a buy! And when I think of how the club was slated by a lot of TW posters who thought they knew better than the manager and Walsh...!!
Not sure about Mirallas he plays as many loose balls as Ross but hopefully he will come good. Great man-management by Ronald with Ross dropping him could have ruined his confidence but instead he had his best game of the season and didn't give the ball away.
Going in the right direct well done, everyone!!
92 Posted 17/09/2016 at 23:19:43
It is incredible that they come to a consensus on BT that it was okay. One of them even said that if the keeper had both hands on the ball then it would be no goal, and seconds later said that there was nothing wrong with it! Ludicrous.
93 Posted 17/09/2016 at 23:24:54
Idrisaa / Gana / Geuye / Superman / Jesus is absolutely amazing. That kid covers more of the field than any player I think I've ever seen.
Colin Glassar Mirallas benched? No way. Did you see the defense-splitting ball he played to Rom last week for the goal? He's been playing well. No real outstanding moments today but I'd not bench him he's been excellent thus far.
94 Posted 17/09/2016 at 23:28:20
95 Posted 17/09/2016 at 23:30:10
A nominee.? He was head and shoulders above every player on the park.
96 Posted 17/09/2016 at 23:33:36
97 Posted 17/09/2016 at 23:35:21
98 Posted 17/09/2016 at 23:47:06
So much to like. 3-1 didn't really reflect the game. Boro didn't even manage a shot on target (yet scored!). Solid, dangerous, controlled, energetic.
I actually thought Valencia did well when he came on. Keen to see a bit more of him.
99 Posted 18/09/2016 at 00:20:59
Funny how a station manned full of RS couldn't pick out a blatant foul.
100 Posted 18/09/2016 at 00:42:18
I also agree with Darren, you can only beat the team you are playing, and it doesn't matter a jot where that team is in the league or how famous they are 3 points is 3 points won and the more often this Everton team achieves that then the better it will be for all of us.
Don't believe the hype put out there by professional pundits; like journalists and advertising people, they have an agenda all of their own. Koeman has his own agenda regarding Everton FC and if he gets it right, the pundits can say what they want as often as they want.
101 Posted 18/09/2016 at 01:30:07
MotM, Gana?? Barry?? I thought for the second game in a row our MotM was the Zen-like calm of the defensive unit, an absolute pleasure to watch.
102 Posted 18/09/2016 at 01:59:45
'Don't believe the hype put out there by professional pundits; like journalists and advertising people, they have an agenda all of their own. Koeman has his own agenda regarding Everton FC and if he gets it right, the pundits can say what they want as often as they want.'
103 Posted 18/09/2016 at 02:16:21
104 Posted 18/09/2016 at 02:18:38
Mirallas poor the last couple games but putting much better shifts in. Between him or Deulofeu though its a difficult choice. Who wastes most possession? If they improve we can keep looking up. For now though it's one game at a time.
105 Posted 18/09/2016 at 02:40:29
Delighted with the three points. COYB
106 Posted 18/09/2016 at 02:45:07
107 Posted 18/09/2016 at 02:51:28
Fantastic display again, Villa must feel like they've had their kecks ripped down and been shafted by King Dong, the seventies porn star, when we took Gana off them.
108 Posted 18/09/2016 at 02:57:12
Thought it was perfectly OK myself.
109 Posted 18/09/2016 at 03:06:13
Norwich next and the suns shines tomorrow.
110 Posted 18/09/2016 at 03:10:48
111 Posted 18/09/2016 at 04:47:43
Why does it matter where we were on MotD??? Liverpool v Chelsea were last. West Brom v West Ham were first... What's the conspiracy?
112 Posted 18/09/2016 at 04:50:52
113 Posted 18/09/2016 at 05:55:56
114 Posted 17/09/2016 at 07:45:19
Conspiracy? Yep, you're right!!!
115 Posted 18/09/2016 at 07:55:17
116 Posted 18/09/2016 at 08:13:16
So many people complaining about the foul on Stekelenburg but no mention of Ashley Williams going in high on their keeper in the build-up to the equaliser. If we're honest, neither goal should have counted... but both did, so no loss.
117 Posted 18/09/2016 at 08:56:07
Anyway, there was one other (local) blue in there so we both really enjoyed our 'comeback' win. My mate is a Spurs supporter so, as he drove me and had to sit and watch, I'm obliged to go to a place called Cappamore today to watch their game. Thought Ross showed a lot of bottle.
Up the Toffees (and Mr Gueye!)
118 Posted 18/09/2016 at 09:09:18
It was pleasing to see Barkley take the game on in the second half in particular for 15 mins after a period of passing ball around at the back. More of that Ross.
Good impression of speed and intent from Valencia up front in the centre-forward position. Useful start but can he score?
119 Posted 18/09/2016 at 09:11:50
Trouble was, he kept on opening it up and didn't know when to stop.
Koeman hasn't done too much with Martinez's squad, just tightened it back up again... though tbf, he also brought in some players.
So it's back to the 'Fine Margins' thing.
Gray did get a bit of head to the ball, not much, but more than the Boro guy who got none. I think the Ref let Williams's challenge go to even it out... like they always seem to do when they've made a balls-up yet won't or can't admit it.
Finally; How long will it be before some pundit, no doubt of the RS variety asks... 'Are Everton the new Leicester?' No, we're just the new Everton.
120 Posted 18/09/2016 at 10:32:19
Well done to the boys and back-room staff of Mr Koeman. Let's just continue to get behind them guys.
Keep the faith.
121 Posted 18/09/2016 at 10:51:31
I love Bolasie and the energy he has. But Gana... what a talent! A credit to our scouting team because I knew very little about him but he's Tommy Gravesen on steroids and classier on the ball too. He must have four lungs or something. A firm favourite. I can't wait to see him in the derby. I shudder to think what he'll do in that.
And finally, Ronald Koeman he is so refreshing to listen to. No bull, no sugar-coating, just pure sense how could anyone not play for the man?
Keep it up, lads, make us prouder than we already are.
122 Posted 18/09/2016 at 10:56:46
123 Posted 18/09/2016 at 11:33:14
As to yesterday, the Boro goal is subjective I guess. The Stek should have been much stronger and we would have been fuming if it had been us and the goal was ruled out. Anyway, it seemed to kick start us and we won comfortably in the end. Another question answered in how we react to adversity.
It is early days but, as others have said, you can only beat what's in front of you and we are doing that well. We can start to build up confidence with this run of games and really if we carry on like this then we shouldn't fear going anywhere. There is a real air of optimism around Goodison Park now and it's long overdue. It's a joy to go to the game and expect to win again. Looking forward to the Norwich game on Tuesday now.
As for MotD, can't stand watching that show with Lineker, Shearer etc spouting their shite, makes me puke the way they fawn over the Mancs and RS. Fuck 'em, don't care what time the put us on, couldn't care less. Hopefully we can really do something this season, that would make the fuckers choke on their slimey sycophantic words for the RS etc.
124 Posted 18/09/2016 at 11:46:31
Our start to the season puts the anger of the transfer window into some perspective... If we'd bought another striker and Number 10, I think we'd be genuine contenders for the league. Koeman is capable of it with modest investment.
125 Posted 18/09/2016 at 11:49:04
126 Posted 18/09/2016 at 12:06:49
127 Posted 18/09/2016 at 12:50:02
128 Posted 18/09/2016 at 12:54:13
At the moment, I am Watching Watford v Man Utd and apart from a screamer that hit the bar, he is playing up till now like an £800k player.
Seriously, right now, would any of you fellow ToffeeWebbers swop Gana for Pogba?? Moi, non!
129 Posted 18/09/2016 at 12:57:11
130 Posted 18/09/2016 at 12:57:49
The real issue though is the fact the ref gave it and the media reaction. If it would've been RS there is no way in this earth Mason, or any other ref, would have dared to give the goal. The fact that pundits were undecided too, again if RS then the ref would've been universally condemned/lambasted and this would still be news today.
To compete totally we need the refs to be a bit more favourable to us, remember the Man City semi last season?
131 Posted 18/09/2016 at 13:01:18
Koemanating is the MAN.
132 Posted 18/09/2016 at 13:02:06
133 Posted 18/09/2016 at 13:14:46
I would have liked an extra goal or two in the second half would have been good for the GD. Boro were close to capitulation.
As for MacManaman he'll never be impartial when we are playing. All the former RS pundits don't do us any favours!
And it's fair to say the RS are playing well atm Sadio Mane has been a great buy for them. Excuse me now while I vomit!!
134 Posted 18/09/2016 at 14:43:28
136 Posted 18/09/2016 at 14:52:31
His Man Utd side look similar to his last Chelsea team, ie, full of names, egos and bling but lacking team spirit, endeavour or imagination. Jose is only a young(ish) manager but maybe he's just after the money nowadays I don't know. I don't see them winning the league under him.
137 Posted 18/09/2016 at 15:53:59
138 Posted 18/09/2016 at 16:03:37
Stoke are all over the place with him at centre-back!
139 Posted 18/09/2016 at 17:34:34
Bit of hindsight?
Glad we got Koeman though, I had wanted Mourinho as my first choice back in May (Koeman was second on my list)... but not now.
140 Posted 18/09/2016 at 17:39:32
141 Posted 18/09/2016 at 17:42:32
142 Posted 18/09/2016 at 17:49:12
Sometimes you just lose your touch and can't get it back. I'm not writing Jose off just yet but something's rotten in red mancunia.
143 Posted 18/09/2016 at 17:59:11
Scares me how positive things look for us at the moment as I'm not used to it since the 80s, but my head says I can't get too carried away until we have played a couple more top teams. But I love RK's directness and honesty when questioned and he gives me confidence that he really knows what he's doing and hopefully that's the same with the players. Certainly seemed to work on Barkley as I thought he had his best game for us this season yesterday.
144 Posted 18/09/2016 at 18:15:49
145 Posted 18/09/2016 at 18:16:43
As for MotD, I stopped watching that about 2 years ago, there is definitely a conspiracy because they always show our match last or second-last. COYBs
146 Posted 18/09/2016 at 18:47:55
The Man City game is in a line ahead. Do you suggest that losing it is in some way defining our season? In my view, our season was defined when a decision was made to pay whatever it took to rid the club of the appalling Martinez.
147 Posted 18/09/2016 at 18:54:57
148 Posted 18/09/2016 at 19:16:45
149 Posted 18/09/2016 at 19:31:11
But what is evident is our style has changed under Koeman, we now play at a much higher tempo, and look to press higher up the pitch. Yes, we will have tough games to come, but Koeman could hardly have wished for a better points tally. Getting the points on the board early breeds confidence, and if we could stay unbeaten till the Man City game we would go into the game feeling confident.
Koeman is not getting carried away he knows that it is early days into his stewardship and there will be many twists and turns ahead, but he strikes me as someone who will relish playing City on their own ground.
Finally, when are the Refs panel going to ditch Mason & Moss, the two most inept refs doing the rounds? Everytime they are in charge of one of our games I fear the worst. Surely yesterday's debacle must re-inforce the use of video technology, especially when Mason or Moss are in charge. They might know the rules but they definitely don't understand the game. To have these two officiating in the richest league in World football is a joke.
150 Posted 18/09/2016 at 19:38:09
Okay, so what if we were to lose our next three games but then trolley Man City in the fourth? You would attribute greater significance to a win in the final game of that four game sequence than you would the triple flop immediately preceding it?
There's been numerous instances of us beating a more favoured team (say, Arsenal, for example) one week, only to then get turned over by a team we were expected to beat (say, Crystal Palace) the next. Why does that first game paint a more accurate picture of 'where we are' than the other?
Consistency of results and the totting up of points come the end of the season will be the only true indicators of 'how far' this team has come.
151 Posted 18/09/2016 at 19:39:45
Hopefully we can show the others how to tame them! And what JD said too...
152 Posted 18/09/2016 at 19:41:09
Martinez's signings were actually pretty poor. The 4 signings Koeman has made have seriously improved the team. Let alone the tactics etc. I was critical of the TDD fiasco but I'm so glad we didn't get Sissoko. He would not improve our team.
I trust Koeman and Walsh to upgrade each position gradually...
153 Posted 18/09/2016 at 19:44:54
155 Posted 18/09/2016 at 19:53:47
Chris (153), I thought that Rom although he didn't do a great deal looked more interested than he has of late and that Gareth had a fine game. Gueye was the pick of the Koeman players and the others were decent enough, although not outstanding.
The Moyes boys in the team, Mirallas, Coleman, Jags and Baines, did pretty well as we have come to expect, but again none of them truly sparkled. Which leave Ross who had one of his better games in an Everton shirt. The subs were not much to write home about: Deulofeu was his usual erratic self; Valencia was making his first appearance; and Cleverley wasn't on long enough to make any assertions.
It really doesn't matter who signed the players who appear in Everton's first team, it's how the current manager gets the best out of those chosen by him. So far so good on that front.
156 Posted 18/09/2016 at 19:58:48
157 Posted 18/09/2016 at 20:08:57
I don't think we should fear playing Man City at all. I think not fearing teams is the key to beating them. City are beatable as any team are.
City and RS and us look the best teams so far (it is still very, very early) but they both have suspect defences for me so it will be interesting. Arsenal had a good win yesterday but they are not a cut above by any measure. As for Chelsea, well any team that features David Luiz in defence is beatable to me.
All this easy/hard team stuff is just shit really; I was at Oxford United in 1986. You beat the next team you play and that's it.
158 Posted 18/09/2016 at 20:25:11
And also that koeman has made 4 who are all first teamers, all improving the team. Again think of alcaraz kone Robles mcgeady niasse they didn't even get in Martinez first 11
Points to a much better recruitment strategy
159 Posted 18/09/2016 at 20:52:12
I've categorised the transfers he paid money for as follows. I've ignored youth players who are still to prove whether they will make it.
Good buys who you will definitely get more than your money back.
Not quite good enough but we will probably get our money back.
Lennon (small loss)
Uncategorisable due to absolute shitness.
He did as well bring Barry in on a free but at the same time did the same with Alcaraz, Eto'o and Cleverley.
In reality, if you look at it individually because even with his net spend of £50m, the profit on Lukaku will nearly cover that. However he just didn't strengthen in the right areas namely centre half and centre forward.
160 Posted 18/09/2016 at 21:09:28
161 Posted 18/09/2016 at 21:10:44
Saying that, I hope they both stay, although I realise at least two big signings will be arriving in the next window so one or two will be going out.
162 Posted 18/09/2016 at 21:19:14
163 Posted 18/09/2016 at 21:27:37
As I said, I'm not trying to defend him. I would say, however, his transfer business is not a complete nightmare; it will probably pay for itself in the end.
His player selection, although not great, was not the problem, it was more what he got out of the players he had that was the problem.
164 Posted 18/09/2016 at 21:34:24
You make a good point in that the transfer fee is not the only cost to the club. For instance Eto'o was 'free' but his wages will have been high.
I agree on Lennon, we won't get £4.5m for him but I suspect he could be a squad player.
Cleverley we could get our money back given we got him for free and he's only 27. We got him for free because I assume he had to take a pay cut leaving Man Utd.
Either way, I don't think any of them compare to paying £13.5m for Oumar Niasse, truly the sign of a manager in his dying days.
165 Posted 18/09/2016 at 21:39:44
166 Posted 18/09/2016 at 21:40:59
167 Posted 18/09/2016 at 21:58:44
168 Posted 18/09/2016 at 22:02:39
I think we need Andy Burnham on the job.
169 Posted 19/09/2016 at 01:15:39
Really??? Did you not notice that 'Boro' didn't have a single shot on target? I wonder if Jags, Baines and Coleman had anything to do with that...
Didn't you see Seamus and his reinvigorated work rate, where he was like his old 'express train' self up and down the wing, defending, and assisting the attacks? Or just maybe it wasn't him that scored that class goal which if Sturridge had scored would have been fauned over that put us ahead.
170 Posted 19/09/2016 at 01:22:40
However bad Martinez was as a coach and also like every manager he made some bad buys, you can't just discredit everything he did... let's just put him in the past and rejoice in our new Everton.
171 Posted 19/09/2016 at 17:01:49
Our neighbours have taken 7 away points against Arsenal, Spurs and Chelsea. My worry is when we come to play a top team away from home, we may struggle. ,
Our main weaknesses, are giving the ball away cheaply, and too many misplaced passes (a legacy of that idiot Martinez), which will destroy us against the likes of Man City & Arsenal for example. I hope I am totally wrong.
172 Posted 19/09/2016 at 17:09:34
Quite right that we will most likely struggle away at a top 5 club but we have the structure to defend getting stronger every game and that gives us a chance and a manager showing much better game-changing tactics.
Injuries will be the bigger test - let us see where we get to by January 1st and who we have left playing 100% by then.
173 Posted 19/09/2016 at 17:12:24
Are you a media pundit or do you just look on the RS as our only barometer of success or failure. All teams in the Premier League have played five games, the various points tallies tells us where those teams are at this moment in time, any other details such as upcoming fixtures or who each team has played is irrelevant.
Look at Man City and Man Utd's fixture list for the opening five games, not really too different to ours are they and with a large slice of luck we may have beaten Spurs but that would be very greedy as we've had our little breaks so far.
I'm not saying we are going to win the league or even claim we are nailed on to finish in the top six as we haven't played well enough for long enough so far in our fixtures, but winning, like losing becomes a habit and if the team are still suffering teething problems, but are winning football matches that is always a good sign for it to have a decent season.
174 Posted 19/09/2016 at 17:31:52
Considering that abject capitulation away to the Black Cats last year (ultimately signalling the end of BBS's reign) this team has come a long way (mentally, physically, and technically) in a relatively short period of time. Much, much more to do but it was critical, above all else, for this team rebuild some of that confidence that has been lacking for far too long.
I think most of us have been supporting the Blues long enough to know that success is fleeting and one's fortunes can take a turn at a moment's notice. We are certainly not world beaters (yet!) but there are positive signs that we are in the process of (re)building a foundation that many believe can propel us forward one game at a time.
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