The Guardian claimed yesterday that Ronald Koeman has made Bolasie his top transfer target as he seeks to bolster his options ahead of the new season but he would need to up his offer substantially from £18m if he wants to meet Palace's inflated valuation.
That report pegged Palace's asking price at £30m but ESPN and now Sky Sports now claim that Palace have accepted a compromise bid, somewhere in the region of £25m but which would eventually be worth what the South London side want for the DR Congo international.
Their sources claim that the deal should go through by the end of the week if Bolasie passes a medical and agrees personal terms with the Blues.
In an interesting twist, the deal could see Oumar Niasse move to Selhurst Park on loan for the season. Reports suggest the Senegalese could be an additional component in the transfer.
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1 Posted 08/08/2016 at 20:25:00
2 Posted 08/08/2016 at 20:30:25
3 Posted 08/08/2016 at 20:35:51
Repeat this action 12x until lunch!
Repeat another 20x during the day!
Go to bed frustrated!
Can't we just up the Williams bid and get that done? What's an extra £3m, £5m for a proven premier league performer?
4 Posted 08/08/2016 at 20:38:07
5 Posted 08/08/2016 at 20:38:39
6 Posted 08/08/2016 at 20:42:36
8 Posted 08/08/2016 at 20:46:13
9 Posted 08/08/2016 at 20:47:00
10 Posted 08/08/2016 at 20:49:08
Also does anyone know how the Operation Goodison Facelift is coming on?
11 Posted 08/08/2016 at 20:50:58
Why would we pay double for the reject?
12 Posted 08/08/2016 at 20:52:20
I keep telling myself that RK is no mug and knows what he's doing! Plus he wouldn't have come here from Southampton without being impressed by the vision of Moshiri!
A win v Spurs will make it all feel better too!
13 Posted 08/08/2016 at 20:52:52
Although there was mention by one of what seems to be his "Billy big bollocks" attitude based on his 1st-half performance v Valencia in friendly on Saturday - remind you of anyone?
15 Posted 08/08/2016 at 20:56:16
16 Posted 08/08/2016 at 20:58:39
17 Posted 08/08/2016 at 20:59:02
18 Posted 08/08/2016 at 20:59:05
headless chicken wingers.
19 Posted 08/08/2016 at 21:01:55
20 Posted 08/08/2016 at 21:02:44
21 Posted 08/08/2016 at 21:03:09
Its almost as though now that Everton have money after waiting 3 decades to be competitive once more, everything that could go against Everton is actually happening.
1: Now Everton are wealthy we cant do a Chelsea or a Man City, or even a Blackburn in the 1990's and go out and buy whoever we want because every other team now has money.
2: We have a pass, pass, pass crap style of football ingrained in all of our players thanks to the crap Martinez drilled into them and it will be hard to get past that.
3: We have a new Manager and backroom team who will have their own way of playing which is going to take time.
4: We have 2 sulky players in Lukaku and Stones who should have been shipped out long ago and is a sideshow at Everton which we really can do without.
5: Every player we go for tends to either want to go to a bigger club or be hanging around in limbo and probably using us as a last resort come transfer deadline day if they don't get what they want.
6: We have had the Euros this summer which has taken up a number of weeks to finish in order for clubs to start trading players.
7: Koeman took 2 weeks holiday when the season ended which he was absolutely entitled to do. But then after coming back and signing for us he went on holiday again to Turkey for a week which given all the above shocked me.
Once the bigger clubs have cherry picked what they want, we will get the next shout at any remaining mercenaries. How can we sell our club to players like Mata when we are just bang average at best? Why would the better players come to Everton knowing that we don't have any other better players for them to play alongside?
22 Posted 08/08/2016 at 21:04:28
Then again, as my Palace-supporting older lad observed about Conor Wickham, that's what £9 million gets you these days, a forward who can help out at corners.
23 Posted 08/08/2016 at 21:04:48
Not a significant improvement on Kev or Geri IMO and for 30m I would sooner make a silly offer for Mata.
24 Posted 08/08/2016 at 21:06:31
This Bolaise is worse – beats a man then goes back and beats him again twice. Not what we need and Palace are like us regarding Lukaku and Stones, asking silly money. Hope this isn't true.
Koeman has had time to get players in now but hasn't done anything. Is the sale of the two I've mentioned vital to who we buy? Because from where I'm sitting it's looking increasingly like it. 5 days to the opener. As the Yanks say, you do the math.
25 Posted 08/08/2016 at 21:09:03
Williams would be decent and is a leader, Nasri could be an inspired buy if we make him feel wanted and he reacts the right way but this sort of money for Bolasie is too great a risk for me. Witsel is clearly not keen so forget him, Bony for £15m is a decent punt... my head is starting to hurt again and I've spent five minutes typing this must check NewsNow Everton again!!
26 Posted 08/08/2016 at 21:11:59
28 Posted 08/08/2016 at 21:20:06
29 Posted 08/08/2016 at 21:21:00
Guys, thanks for being so cathartic. Not sure if my heart would stand a purchase above £10 mill now though!
30 Posted 08/08/2016 at 21:30:15
31 Posted 08/08/2016 at 21:36:23
If we can get Begovic, Williams, Mata, Bolasie and a striker (not sure who tbh) for £100 mill, get £45 mill for Stones, keep Lukaku, we'll have a great team squad for £55 million extra!
That's great business and, with the likes of Deulofeu and Mirallas too, we'll score loads of goals and be tighter at the back, then next season, see how Davies, Holgate and Co are progressing and push on!
Bolasie is a game changer, guys...I've seen him play loads! Slow but exciting times. In Ron I Trust.
32 Posted 08/08/2016 at 21:37:11
33 Posted 08/08/2016 at 21:43:49
34 Posted 08/08/2016 at 21:46:46
35 Posted 08/08/2016 at 21:47:50
36 Posted 08/08/2016 at 21:48:30
37 Posted 08/08/2016 at 21:48:46
38 Posted 08/08/2016 at 21:51:17
I could go on
Don't buy this nonsense about the market being slow, all the above are cracking pieces of business we just haven't even been at the races.
Ayew at £20m has scored twice as many in one season than Bolasie has in his entire EPL Career.
39 Posted 08/08/2016 at 21:52:42
One thing is for sure like most of the previous seasons in memory it seems we will leave our signings to the 11th hour and in doing business this way who ever is brought in will not hit the ground running. It will anything up to 6 matches for them to be totally effective if at all!
The serious EPL clubs bring their signings in with enough time to gel with the squad when are we going to learn.
40 Posted 08/08/2016 at 21:59:35
Well, not unless you're a Saints shareholder.
41 Posted 08/08/2016 at 22:02:04
You get the drift.
42 Posted 08/08/2016 at 22:02:49
43 Posted 08/08/2016 at 22:03:00
As for Bolasie, it's a yes from me. Surely we will have a signing this week? It is starting to drag a bit! COYBB.
44 Posted 08/08/2016 at 22:06:12
Preach. We are completely static while others are building. Business is being done, just not by us. Something is beginning to smell very fishy at Goodison.
46 Posted 08/08/2016 at 22:10:41
Pastel de nata
47 Posted 08/08/2016 at 22:13:42
48 Posted 08/08/2016 at 22:15:10
49 Posted 08/08/2016 at 22:15:10
50 Posted 08/08/2016 at 22:22:08
51 Posted 08/08/2016 at 22:28:14
52 Posted 08/08/2016 at 22:34:09
53 Posted 08/08/2016 at 22:35:35
Still think there are some suprises to come in this window. Holding out faith that in 3 weeks time we may yet have a few of Mata, Witsel, Williams, Martins Indi, Koulibaly, Bony, Slimani, Begovic, Coric. 4 from that list and i'd be pretty happy.
54 Posted 08/08/2016 at 22:38:15
We need dynamic central midfielders with vision. Mikel has not been replaced. Schneiderlin would do for starters. How old is Defour these days? A return for Rooney?!
55 Posted 08/08/2016 at 22:41:04
56 Posted 08/08/2016 at 22:43:40
Definitely a better option than the Bulgarian Chestycough, who spends a lot of time on the treatment table!
57 Posted 08/08/2016 at 22:46:00
58 Posted 08/08/2016 at 22:50:12
59 Posted 08/08/2016 at 22:52:33
60 Posted 08/08/2016 at 22:56:32
Quality in the middle but question his attitude which can be a bit flaky.
61 Posted 08/08/2016 at 22:57:45
62 Posted 08/08/2016 at 23:02:04
63 Posted 08/08/2016 at 23:02:42
Not because there hasn't been some good players amongst them, but because I believe the thing we're missing most is a real leader and until we have him (them) it'll just be win a few, lose a few, draw a few, finish...somewhere.
The only (linked) player who has made me think 'please let that one happen' has been Williams.
As with any player coming in, there's no guarantees, but watching him (and Huth for that matter) makes me think that is what we need.
I believe two such players could drag the rest of them to greater heights. (Only said 'could'!)
64 Posted 08/08/2016 at 23:02:43
And he does love himself.
65 Posted 08/08/2016 at 23:02:47
if you'd have watched him take Barcelona apart you would probably rewrite that.
I have the utmost faith in Koeman/Walsh and Moshiri but even I am beginning to think something's not right.
It could be that Stones and Lukaku situations are holding plans up but I would still have expected a few in before now.
66 Posted 08/08/2016 at 23:04:51
I thought the idea was to lash some serious money out for game changers, we will have to pay well over the odds to get them here, but what the hell if that's what it takes.
If we don't, then forget it for another season.
67 Posted 08/08/2016 at 23:06:30
68 Posted 08/08/2016 at 23:10:22
69 Posted 08/08/2016 at 23:20:09
Correct - Bakaray Sako
70 Posted 08/08/2016 at 23:29:25
Only at Everton can we have the optimism ripped from us in just four weeks. Same old same eh...
71 Posted 08/08/2016 at 23:39:14
I think I'll take a long transfer nap and see what has happened by Friday night. Or by the end of the transfer window. My blood-pressure regulating medicines ought to keep me up until I start ranting the day after the window closes! :D
72 Posted 08/08/2016 at 23:51:59
"It could be that Stones and Lukaku's situation is holding plans up..."
Said the same to my dad before.
Everything seems on hold until something breaks and then there will be a flurry of activity.
I can understand it up front as keeping or selling Lukaku decides what kind of strikers you get in. But our mid is crying out for some variation and verve, nothing so far in an attacking sense.
73 Posted 08/08/2016 at 23:53:48
Much as I appreciate Phil Jagielka's contribution to the team he strikes me as a "reluctant leader".
Williams is definitely a leader that is why Swansea will desperately want to hang on to him. Real leaders in any field of endeavour the sort that you would run through walls for are a rarity. If we can't get Williams, we my well have to go overseas to find one.
74 Posted 09/08/2016 at 01:03:24
If there's no one to point them in the right direction and keep them concentrating and focused on the pitch, all just more of the same.
We've actually got some 'good players' but many of them (obviously) need leading.
In the PL I see many (good) players who sign a good deal and it's (sort of) job done.
Great money every week for 4/5 years and 'yeah of course I want to win but if we don't, I'll buy a dinner plate-sized watch to cheer myself up.'
Managers can obviously do their bit, but once on the park, much of their dancing about and red-faced screaming in the 'technical area' is wasted effort if players decide to switch off (as we did so many times last season).
With a Roy Keane in your side, it would rarely happen - any slacking and you'd be flecked with his gob as he screamed into your face (made 'a lowee' of you) in front of thousands and let you know 'pull your fucking weight or else!'
These players aren't easy to find these days and I appreciate we're not going to get a Roy Keane (although..Forest did) but I truly believe that "we need a ball-playing whoever" or "we left sided whatever" is all just more of the same.
Whoever they are, they arrive, stick the shirt on, politely tell us they're made up to be here, give us one decent performance every four games and...appear to be mute.
I'm 57 - this the quietest Everton team I've ever seen.
In fact last season, I (a paying spectator) was having to let players know there was a 'fucking man on!!' because their team-mates had all decided to become Harpo Marx (particularly Gibson, harpist - geddit?)
Maybe I'll insist they write a few TW posts for me - what with me doing their job and all.
Mumbles quietly: 'mupmfuffiehoffee.'
'Are you deaf? I said UP THE FUCKING TOFFEES!!!!'
75 Posted 09/08/2016 at 01:16:18
Manchester United have just broken the world transfer record and not only have people barely raised an eyebrow but their fans aren't even that excited. Their reaction is like: "oh yeah he'll be an improvement from our World Cup winning captain that can't even get near the squad".
Strange times. Bolasie has shown some signs of having the potential to be a very effective player in this league and as a result his club rightly would want a high sum for him to leave. I still feel like £100 on Benteke, Mata and Williams would significantly improve our squad and would personally prioritise that but in the current market I don't really know what we should be doing. Not an easy job for Koeman and Walsh.
76 Posted 09/08/2016 at 01:17:41
Not impressed with either Koeman or Walsh so far. If other clubs can tie down a deal in a few days, why the hell can't we?
77 Posted 09/08/2016 at 01:29:00
Koeman and Walsh will have to pull some rabbits out of Moshiri's Hat... and sharpish.
Or is it true about the Stones Domino Effect thing... Maybe If we all jump up and down together, the vibrations will cause it to topple?
78 Posted 09/08/2016 at 01:31:18
Unless of course we sell both Lazy-arse Lukaku and Stones and then have some money to spend, which I believe at this junction, is still our transfer policy despite the mythical £100mill we have heard all about.
79 Posted 09/08/2016 at 01:32:07
80 Posted 09/08/2016 at 05:24:52
81 Posted 09/08/2016 at 05:32:56
Season after season we are left in the fucking lurch by the club, I have lost all enthusiasm for all things footy.
Prediction for the coming season. 11th and 2 twattings of the other lot... Hey ho, where's me bottle of emergency Scotch, I need a strong snifter.
82 Posted 09/08/2016 at 08:37:49
We have Deulofeu, Mirallas and Tarashaj - but Bolasie would add that something different.
I think he would be a very good buy! But nothing over £20 mil for me.
83 Posted 09/08/2016 at 08:55:29
I know that football had changed, but where are the big voices on the pitch and in the dressing room? Even Gareth Barry and Jags are quiet players, in fact only Mo Besic has an edge and he is always injured.
84 Posted 09/08/2016 at 08:59:30
85 Posted 09/08/2016 at 09:12:59
We've brought in a keeper better than those we had and a defensive midfielder who really looks like a find and we've spent, in relative terms, the square root of fk all.
The players we want are ones that are always going to have other offers. Without an elite pedigree we're going to be an interesting prospect, but, one that is easy to overlook if a Champs League or glory side comes in. These players we want have money already so huge wedges offered aren't always going to do the trick at least until other options have been shown lacking.
We'll get our targets, the ones that haven't taken other options, last minute deadline day or a little bit before. Thats going to be the way of things until we've raised our profile how hard is that to understand???.
87 Posted 09/08/2016 at 09:19:33
88 Posted 09/08/2016 at 09:31:57
I'm not at all concerned. I still think we'll get quality in but at the same time I think its a good sign that Koeman is not rushing about making wholesale changes to a squad that he is still getting to know. As it stands, apart from losing Besic and, ahem, Tim Howard, we are no worse off than this time last year and if Ron is the manager we think he is we are actually better off.
He is hopefully assessing the squad and the available additions with a long term view to making us challengers. Rome was not built in a day and its not as if any of us expected instant results, ie winning the league or CL qualification, in his first season did we??
I'm patient and quietly confident and very excited to be a blue right now! I just wish I still lived in the area so I could see the re-emergence of a great club.
89 Posted 09/08/2016 at 09:37:06
I understand 'the game' has changed a fair bit in 30 years, but as Peter Reid says in that intro..
“People talk about Leicester Citys 2015/16 Premier League-winning team and the camaraderie they have, and thats what we had at Everton. Besides being a good, well-balanced side, there was a great team spirit. People were mates, they got on and that showed on the pitch. We all worked for each other. If anyone was in any trouble on the pitch, we helped each other out. If anything summed up the determination we had in the side it was Andy Gray in a game at Southampton in 1985. We were leading 2–1 but were under the cosh and they had a corner. Andy was marking their centre-half, Kevin Bond, but as the ball came in, I could see that hed lost him. Instead, Andy jumped up and headed the back of Bonds head and the ball went into the stand. That was our centre-forward defending and thats what wins you matches, on top of good football. It was Howard Kendall who fostered the spirit in the team and throughout the football club."
Of course we need good players, but without a bit of what Reid is talking about (that spirit and leadership which can be the difference between a win and a draw or a draw and a defeat) I don't envisage any great changes in what we'll be seeing this season.
(hope I'm wrong like)
90 Posted 09/08/2016 at 16:48:08
91 Posted 09/08/2016 at 17:10:03
92 Posted 09/08/2016 at 17:28:22
We haven't made any progress since the end last season, it would seem. The players with talent are playing the same game as under Martinez, and the troublemakers are still around.
They say that when you take over a company, team or government, you've got 100 days when you a) can do anything you want but b) you set the stage for the future. After 100 days, you are part of the furniture and whatever is in place, stays.
I'm worried that we haven't seen Lukaku shipped out at just about any price, the semi final last year was the very worst display I have ever seen from a footballer, and he causes trouble and dissention too. When he arrived I though he was an intelligent, well-balanced man who could knock a few goals in, just the short of early-maturing character who would blossom in the relatively open and creative environment Martinez seems to be creating. Unfortunately, he's just another "entitled", unselfmotivated mercenary whose head has been turned by his father and agent (he was absolutely crap for Belgium, too).
Stones is, for me, less of a problem. While I think he would be happy to go to Man City, I doubt if he actually is the source of dissension within the dressing room, he doesn't come across that way. He'll probably go, but his disappearance won't be the casue of major change either way.
Koeman needs to do an Alex Ferguson at Goodison, get everyone motivated and concerned, in other words, to reverse entirely the direction and ethos of the last two seasons.
93 Posted 09/08/2016 at 17:41:33
94 Posted 09/08/2016 at 17:52:31
Btw Juan Mata still 2/1 to join us, fill yer boots lads, taps nose!
95 Posted 09/08/2016 at 18:10:59
96 Posted 09/08/2016 at 18:11:14
97 Posted 09/08/2016 at 18:20:36
98 Posted 09/08/2016 at 18:20:45
99 Posted 09/08/2016 at 18:21:27
Sometimes I despair it's like Neil out of the young ones having a party with Victor Meldrew and Marvin the Paranoid Android!
100 Posted 09/08/2016 at 18:22:55
101 Posted 09/08/2016 at 18:30:47
102 Posted 09/08/2016 at 18:41:23
103 Posted 09/08/2016 at 18:43:28
104 Posted 09/08/2016 at 18:43:40
105 Posted 09/08/2016 at 18:44:21
106 Posted 09/08/2016 at 18:45:26
Silly money time in the Prem at the moment.
107 Posted 09/08/2016 at 18:47:13
108 Posted 09/08/2016 at 18:48:04
Hope I'm wrong but he seems a Mirallas clone who has one good game every 5. For that money we might have got Perisic...
109 Posted 09/08/2016 at 18:48:27
110 Posted 09/08/2016 at 18:50:14
Mates here in London who follow Palace have mixed opinions about him - generally seen as a bit of a flash git and none expressed disquiet at the thought of him moving which says something.
Glad the Stones saga finally over. Appreciate the concerns here on TW - particularly about what appears as inactivity on our part in the purchase department but there's time yet. Sure that Mr Koeman is monitoring astutely.
Keep the faith.
111 Posted 09/08/2016 at 18:51:06
We need to get our heads around the fact that we have to buy our way into the top gambling table; we can worry about value later — that's if we ever should anyway in this particular mad business of EPL. COYB
112 Posted 09/08/2016 at 18:52:25
113 Posted 09/08/2016 at 18:55:02
A player who will unnerve and drag defenders all over the place. Powerful and direct. End product would be a concern but when playing Palace I will be happy he's on our side and not on theirs. Not done yet but will be a good addition in my opinion if indeed it does happen.
Hopefully we can land that lad from Twente, too. A class act by all accounts in the mold of Mahrez.
114 Posted 09/08/2016 at 18:58:04
There top whisper is Mauro Boselli to Everton
115 Posted 09/08/2016 at 18:59:36
116 Posted 09/08/2016 at 19:00:06
This lad has great pace and is very strong and tricky. Koeman will use him to advantage if we get him!!!
I just cannot believe anything anymore!
117 Posted 09/08/2016 at 19:02:51
118 Posted 09/08/2016 at 19:03:13
119 Posted 09/08/2016 at 19:04:44
120 Posted 09/08/2016 at 19:06:45
We have stepped up to plate, paid the market rate and got what we want.
No messing about. I hope the 3 deals complete. The outlay is eye watering, but this is a summer of big transition and we need good solid PL performers.
Bolasie, Williams, Kone all fit that category.
121 Posted 09/08/2016 at 19:10:09
122 Posted 09/08/2016 at 19:12:10
123 Posted 09/08/2016 at 19:12:42
124 Posted 09/08/2016 at 19:12:55
It could lead to departures by other players who may not see the action they were expecting before this signing.
Williams is a great buy for the short term given his age but he is still a top performer as seen in the Euros for Wales.
125 Posted 09/08/2016 at 19:13:44
126 Posted 09/08/2016 at 19:17:13
127 Posted 09/08/2016 at 19:17:15
128 Posted 09/08/2016 at 19:17:55
And here's me thinking I'd see some happiness on here now that we're buying players!
129 Posted 09/08/2016 at 19:18:58
Get him signed.
130 Posted 09/08/2016 at 19:21:14
131 Posted 09/08/2016 at 19:27:09
A contribution every 2.3 games. His record is inferior to Mirallas (1.9) so it begs the question what Mirallas is worth!
That said, transfer fees have simply gone mad this summer, and we need someone who can play on the left.
Mirallas, Deulofeu and Lennon have not excelled on the left, so as with Williams and Kone, we are shoring up a hole, albeit expensively.
132 Posted 09/08/2016 at 19:32:22
133 Posted 09/08/2016 at 19:34:05
We need to get into the here and now - quick. Williams and the like will help us do that, no more messing about, lets get moving Everton.
134 Posted 09/08/2016 at 19:37:52
135 Posted 09/08/2016 at 19:38:59
He can be a right dangerous bastard though.
136 Posted 09/08/2016 at 19:47:00
You're not playing Football Manager.
It's not your money.
Trust the manager and the chairman.
137 Posted 09/08/2016 at 19:49:56
138 Posted 09/08/2016 at 19:50:09
139 Posted 09/08/2016 at 19:56:31
I'll trust the manager and the owner. Our buffoon of a chairman almost destroyed Everton.
140 Posted 09/08/2016 at 19:58:25
Yarmolenko was dreadful at the euros. He has missed the boat, nobody wants him.
141 Posted 09/08/2016 at 19:59:19
Williams and hopefully Kone will provide a solid backline and give some vocality and leadership on the pitch as well as a much needed physical presence. An issue last season
Bollasie will provide strength, energy and pace with a direct route so that it doesnt take 20 minutes for us to go from one end of the pitch to the other. Again a problem last year.
We now need some finesse and trickery that juan mata could provide. the forward line will depend upon what happens with Lukaku so thats up in the air at the moment
142 Posted 09/08/2016 at 20:01:20
143 Posted 09/08/2016 at 20:02:07
He usually murders us, but I have to say he's not my choice of player. As others have pointed out, we might have the money, but no one wants to come. Perisic,
Ayew, Draxler are miles ahead of him.
144 Posted 09/08/2016 at 20:06:40
145 Posted 09/08/2016 at 20:07:53
Pace, strength, attitude. He's providing something we're lacking.
146 Posted 09/08/2016 at 20:08:55
147 Posted 09/08/2016 at 20:10:42
148 Posted 09/08/2016 at 20:13:39
After two seasons of lightweight dross under Martinez I am happy to see what Koeman is building. The mid-80s team under Kendall were not only good they had a balance, were no pushovers and a good team spirit as has been said. I would make Williams captain, Jags is too nice.
149 Posted 09/08/2016 at 20:14:26
It's a lot of money, but everyone we buy will be seen as too much purely because it's us paying it. No one bats an eyelid when Utd and Chelsea go back and want to buy players for mega money who not so long ago they couldn't wait to be rid of.
What today shows is that the current market is a joke. Ive kept hearing since the PL began that it will implode but it just keeps getting worse.
150 Posted 09/08/2016 at 20:21:54
Bolasie should win us a lot more points than Stones did last year.
I know they are different positions and its a team game, etc. however, Bolasie has a knack of making things happen out of nothing, in tight games. He also seems to raise his game against the big teams.
Stones quite clearly cost us quite a few points last year. Perhaps not the world class star we were looking for, but nobody was describing Kante or Mahrez as world class a year ago - they are now, and for good reason!
151 Posted 09/08/2016 at 20:22:59
152 Posted 09/08/2016 at 20:25:09
We'll have two months of the youngsters getting some game time at least.
153 Posted 09/08/2016 at 20:30:07
Who cares he costs £30m? We've got a rich owner and big bucks from the TV deal, I can understand if we paid this and we were on a tight budget but FFS! We aren't in the market for world class talents so PL talent will have to do.
154 Posted 09/08/2016 at 20:30:46
However, the question I would have asked myself as a Manager is why do Palace want to let him go?
155 Posted 09/08/2016 at 20:35:15
156 Posted 09/08/2016 at 20:35:55
157 Posted 09/08/2016 at 20:43:16
Then again, I'm laughing at Man Utd lashing out close on £100mill on Pogba. Maybe we've got a bargain in that context. Or maybe the whole PL monster has got so out of control that I don't actually give a flying fuck about football anymore.
158 Posted 09/08/2016 at 20:44:57
I'm not sure on him tbh, but I do think he is something different to what we have at the moment. He looks naturally fit and quick, with a bit of flair. His goal scoring record is a concern, but I would be more interested in how many assists and chances created he has to his name.
At the end of the day it seems like we are starting to shape our squad, so we have to be happy with that.
159 Posted 09/08/2016 at 20:50:37
160 Posted 09/08/2016 at 20:51:48
Is Bolasie worth it? Probably not. Then again is Stones worth £50 million, Rom £75 million, Pogba £100 million?
If we want to buy the players we need then we have to pay through the nose for them just like everyone else. Unless anyone thinks Everton shouldn't buy any players as a protest against overpricing and wait until transfer fees come down. Which won't happen in my lifetime.
161 Posted 09/08/2016 at 20:52:01
Part genius, part school boy that's what you get.
Only decent wingers through the hallowed Goodison gates in the last 30-odd years... Steven, Sheedy, Kanchelskis. All delivered goals, assists and set pieces
162 Posted 09/08/2016 at 20:54:04
163 Posted 09/08/2016 at 20:56:36
Supply and demand. You could easily count on 2 hands the number of wingers in the entire world that are consistently good/great every game.
164 Posted 09/08/2016 at 20:59:13
Koeman should still have £100 mill to spend and, seeing as he had four strikers at Southampton, I'm hoping he will spend big on a proven goalscorer.
165 Posted 09/08/2016 at 21:04:05
Give these guys a chance, eh... moan about no signings, we bid and then you moan he isn't good enough or it's too much money.
Everyone moaning about Gueye and how bad he is, Aston Villa got relegated etc... then first game for us and he was the best player on the pitch last week!
Williams is a great signing; bringing in Kone #2 is a nice defensive recruitment; Bolasie gives us something in attack and on the left — mega bonus. Fingers crossed that Mata has had enough at Man Utd and he comes too.
However, we do still need at least two decent strikers...
166 Posted 09/08/2016 at 21:07:22
167 Posted 09/08/2016 at 21:10:36
168 Posted 09/08/2016 at 21:12:47
169 Posted 09/08/2016 at 21:13:16
We should not be happy to accept the cast-offs of other clubs wanting to cherry pick our "talent". If we can get the cash sums being spoken of for our unsettled players, then take it.
We also need to rid ourselves of dead wood. I know we will be leaving the squad short of experience but better that than putting no-hopers out to play.
Have faith... trust in our new manager and board, and keep breath your held for positive signings which will improve the club.
170 Posted 09/08/2016 at 21:14:07
171 Posted 09/08/2016 at 21:15:24
Players who are good enough already for the Champions League won't come to Everton yet! Players who can get us to Champions League level with a good manager will for a price!
Watching the threads on here during the transfer window is like reading the live feedback during matches depressing and spirit-sapping! You think Bolasie, Mata and Williams are uninspiring?? You should have been around when we were replacing Champions with Rod Belfitt, Joe Harper and Mike Clements!!
172 Posted 09/08/2016 at 21:18:30
When people point to stats to justify Lukaku's quality, they say 'stats mean fuck all'.
Well, Bolasie has shit stats. Fuck all goals. Fuck all assists. Must mean everything else he does is fantastic.
I despair. We've turned into Spurs/Newcastle, circa 2000. Over-priced, over-aged, not quite top quality players, but who have a bit of media rep being signed, while the real quality gets sold to pay for it all.
173 Posted 09/08/2016 at 21:24:01
The new breed of wingbacks seem marginally better - probably because they have more to their game than just wing play.
Mirallas and Geri are typically suffering from the curse of the winger. This is one reason why our large striker is so out of form. He is so dependent on service from others, that (like a minor Royal) , he is lost on his own.
I hope that Yanick can change our fortunes.
174 Posted 09/08/2016 at 21:24:19
God we could use some Harold analysis right about now. RIP indeed. Missed.
I agree with you as well. I think Mr. Matthews would have thumbed up this one.
175 Posted 09/08/2016 at 21:30:27
Does not seem like a Walsh signing more Koeman. It's a bit of a gamble to improve us and an expensive one.
176 Posted 09/08/2016 at 21:33:00
So £42M, ie, All the Stones cash and more, gone for what? A 32-year-old with one maybe 2 seasons of quality, and an erratic winger with no end product, 27 years of age so unlikely to improve and value only going to fall.
Stones on the other hand will be worth £60/70 million in 3 years (stop comparing to Rodwell – he was a crock and we sold cheap because he was a crock).
May stick a few bob on Koeman to get the sack. My confidence has sunk.
177 Posted 09/08/2016 at 21:36:46
178 Posted 09/08/2016 at 21:44:45
Bolasie is a proper winger, in the sense that he hugs the touch line and likes to get one on one with the full back. We could do with a player who can stretch defences, thus allowing more room for players breaking from midfield, as well as winger on opposite side.
A more direct approach under Koeman will surely benefit Bolasie, Del Boy, Mirallas, etc. the slow build up under Bob allowed defence and midfielders to get set in defensive positions and snuff out any room for our attackers.
179 Posted 09/08/2016 at 21:44:45
Jags and Williams will boss the back line.
180 Posted 09/08/2016 at 21:45:39
181 Posted 09/08/2016 at 21:46:35
182 Posted 09/08/2016 at 21:54:40
Koeman knows what he is doing, look at his playing career, exactly! He knows a lot of our players are rubbish but it will take him time to turn it around. Without Lukaku's goals last season, Everton would be playing in the Championship – remember that before you slate his signings who have not even put on a blue shirt yet; you may be pleasantly surprised!
183 Posted 09/08/2016 at 21:58:14
I wonder how much Kanchelskis would be worth in today's market.
184 Posted 09/08/2016 at 22:10:05
185 Posted 09/08/2016 at 22:10:19
Given your 'decision making' (a unique process of guesswork based on stuff you've invented... followed by more guesswork) I'll stick 500 nicker on the candidate you don't choose.
186 Posted 09/08/2016 at 22:21:58
Overpriced? Definitely, but what proven PL regular isn't these days?
187 Posted 09/08/2016 at 22:28:53
If Niasse goes on loan then EFC please don't bar him from playing against us - that's two games against 10 men.
188 Posted 09/08/2016 at 22:33:41
189 Posted 09/08/2016 at 22:34:37
190 Posted 09/08/2016 at 22:37:02
191 Posted 09/08/2016 at 22:46:32
192 Posted 09/08/2016 at 22:46:46
193 Posted 09/08/2016 at 22:54:29
194 Posted 09/08/2016 at 22:59:14
Those who thought Mr Moshiri's millions would instantly turn us into a club that the very top players would rush to sign for are seriously deluded.
195 Posted 09/08/2016 at 23:00:13
Maybe this story about him shitting all over Stevie La's sentimental send off might make some feel a little bit better about things:
The 'Maximus Decimus Meridious' move of slowly sweeping his hand through the grass before making a red shite look a right dick scores him some points in my book. Alan Pardew being not that far off the mark when it comes to his market value kind of sticks in my craw though. Normally any words out of his mouth would be followed by the question "What's he been smoking?" (and the subsequent answer "His own cock").
196 Posted 09/08/2016 at 23:01:03
Just go bloody steady there mate !
My first car was MK III Cortina, Olympic Blue.
No woolyback dice.
No "two-tone" vinyl roof.
OK, no brakes.
No tread on the tryes (ffs "slicks are faster" right ?).
Some old/recent footie echoes shoved into holes in the wings, bodyfiller and Haynes "touch up".
So many "Aways" . . .
Best £130 I'll EVER spend !
197 Posted 09/08/2016 at 23:03:56
As for the dreary 'same old Everton' quotes and 'so much for £100m', watch this space. By Thursday we will have spent £63.5m (Stekelenburg £1m, Gueye £7.5m, Williams £12m, Bolasie £25m, Kone £18m) £40m for stones (after Barnsleys cut) = £23.5m outlay with 1 sold and 5 in. I'm delighted with that as we badly needed some pace and steel added.
As good a prospect as Stones was he didn't want to be here and iv never seen 'potential' win points or a trophy. Who cares what his future value may or may not be and whether he captains england (if he ever gets a game 1st), I only care that Everton win matches and trophies and with these buys and more to come we have a better chance of doing that!
Watch this space for Mata or Ziyech, a striker (would love Mario Gomez) and a Gk! IRWT!!
198 Posted 09/08/2016 at 23:06:23
My apologies I was dithering between Mike Bernard and Dave Clements. I've also got early stage Alzheimer's so the names are beginning to blur like that Olly Varadi bloke and Barry Derracott! With all due respect to Dave Clements he was fuck all compared to the holy trinity he followed! Very good? Hmmm, not in my opinion!
But anyway, Koeman is bringing in players at last . He knows what he is doing. People on here moan when he signs no-one then moan when he does cos we've not signed Pogba or 5 no marks that the shite have signed!
I'm excited for our future but some on here want it next week!
199 Posted 09/08/2016 at 23:08:15
200 Posted 09/08/2016 at 23:11:29
FFS mate. I really did have to read your opening words very carefully. First glance, seemed like you were involving Palace famous supporter and lipstickist.
FFS, I was preparing meself for .
So, "Death By Tray It Shall Be !".
201 Posted 09/08/2016 at 23:17:42
202 Posted 09/08/2016 at 23:25:36
We had the two-tone roof.
203 Posted 09/08/2016 at 23:31:04
He is definitely an attacking asset especially when playing counter attack away from home but it's his unpredictable skills and step over's which sometimes remind's me of McGeady that worry me!
I have faith in Koeman's judgement he made Long who was a bit of a headless chicken into a better player so I'm hoping he can do the same with someone who can destroy teams on his own!
204 Posted 09/08/2016 at 23:42:14
205 Posted 09/08/2016 at 23:52:28
206 Posted 09/08/2016 at 23:58:17
So thank you for finding a way to link this Everton transfer thread to it. Brightens up an otherwise incomprehensible and slightly depressing day. Ashley Williams, okay fine, solves an immediate pressing concern, but Bolassie for £30m, if it happens, has a hell of a long way to go to convince me...
207 Posted 10/08/2016 at 00:34:58
208 Posted 10/08/2016 at 01:07:39
Koeman want us to play a high pressing, aggressive style. This I like vey much, but it is tough going. Look at Klopps teams. They get knackered, but they are also successful (damn that the redshite got him, he is a beast of a manager).
Koeman appears to want a similar style.
I wonder what the formation will be for his version of this, maybe 3 central defenders (a la Italy vs Spain) or the 4-2-1-2-1 that has become most popular in recent years.
So where does Bolasi fit? Maybe Koeman sees the need of two wide men, mom stop running that stretch the opposition. His final ball needs working on, but maybe it is a case of Going for what's available or Koeman believes he can get more, or even final ball is less important. What is important maybe the stretching, the running and thus creating space for Barkley and Lukaku (should he stay) and Deulofeu and co to take advantage.
I hope so. Because taken from what I know, he underwhelms me but maybe Koeman knows his onions. I hope so.
209 Posted 10/08/2016 at 02:19:53
Stones out, Bolasie and Williams in. Class out, mediocrity in.
Wtf are we trying to achieve with these average known quantities?
Plus to posters saying it's not your money why do you care, I agree completely. The issue is signing Bolasie for that money now means we won't sign any other wingers. That's what annoys me, not that we have him who always plays well in Liverpool seemingly, but the opportunity cost of signing him over someone like ziyech.
210 Posted 10/08/2016 at 02:39:36
It's the market unfortunately, so we pay what we need to pay, as Man City have had to do for Stones.
This fella ripped the shit out of us and left the pitch as mom in at least three games I can recall, plus he has done numbers on a few other teams.
He may be inconsistent (show me a player who ain't), but if I had that prick Pardew spouting his bollocks from the touchline and during training, I think I might go missing now and again!
Let's give Ronnie and Walsh (plus any signings they may make) a feckin chance eh?!
It's not like we're signing Alcaraz and Kone (A) from Wigan, is it?
211 Posted 10/08/2016 at 02:43:06
Great to see new signings coming in, fresh blood and experienced blood.
Let Walsh and Ron work their magic. 10 games in, then we can judge.
212 Posted 10/08/2016 at 02:52:05
Players touted as incoming need to be given a chance but not over 5 years and all that crap. I'm afraid with the big money comes the need for tangible progress.
Should koeman not deliver European football, he will be lucky to keep his job.
Patience is thin, good players more so. Therefore the onus is on the coach to earn his money, and to date the best signing we have made is Koeman himself.
A relatively benign first 10 games needs to yield good results. Cut the draws out, I would rather 5 wins & 5 losses rather than throw in 3/4 draws. Our record in the last decade is littered with too many draws.
Psyche needs to change to win games end of.
Spurs looked undercooked like us, we are at home, got to expect a win.
213 Posted 10/08/2016 at 03:26:45
214 Posted 10/08/2016 at 03:42:35
Lukaku is average at best. A confident Bony has far more quality and I am sue that Koeman will have him firing on all cylinders if he signs. So lets sell Lukaku to Chelsea asap. Koeman is putting together a fabulous squad. I am very excited about this.
216 Posted 10/08/2016 at 05:33:17
2 players out and 7 in and it hasn't cost us a penny in transfer fees.
217 Posted 10/08/2016 at 07:08:57
218 Posted 10/08/2016 at 07:33:46
Anyone heard of any news on Bony? And maybe even Mata? Heard we had a bid of £25M knocked back they want £28-30M and he's ours.
219 Posted 10/08/2016 at 08:14:25
220 Posted 10/08/2016 at 08:37:48
221 Posted 10/08/2016 at 08:43:17
Just add Mata to that list & its about right.
The word GOSSIP means just that. Remember as we have just done a deal with Shiteh we are in prime position, have the money & Bony will not have to move house.
222 Posted 10/08/2016 at 09:04:09
223 Posted 10/08/2016 at 09:09:36
Ie £30m on Bolasie could have been spent buying Perisic potentially. Or buying Ziyech and Ghazzel from Lyon. Even though it's not my money I don't want to see it wasted on players that I don't rate highly.
Hope Bolasie proves me wrong but do not see enough end product to value him over £16-20m.
224 Posted 10/08/2016 at 09:37:44
225 Posted 10/08/2016 at 09:47:44
That'll mean the deal is off then or we'll have to up the offer.
226 Posted 10/08/2016 at 09:49:25
Bolasie, Lukaku, Mirallas, Deulofeu I would be genuinely pleased with that attack.
Barkley and Gana in midfield.
Baines, Funes Mori or Kone, Williams, Coleman as our defensive line.
Goalie: I wanna say Butland but we're stuck with Stekelenburg for now.
I think we'll get one or two big signings in on Deadline Day so I'm not too worried.
227 Posted 10/08/2016 at 09:52:51
Perhaps because he has a ready made replacement in Bakary Sako who they got from Wolves on a free transfer last season.
228 Posted 10/08/2016 at 09:55:27
Man Utd paid a record fee for Rio Ferdinand £29 million I believe, and he was about 22 to 23 years old then. They paid more for a defender than a striker (Rooney, who cost them £27 million).
They were purchasing potential, not just the finished product.So, I don't necessarily think that we got such a fantastic deal (bear in mind that 15% goes to Barnsley).
Bolasie is the finished product, probably will continue to be at his peak for another two to three years at the most. And he was bought by Palace for £350k. If he's being sold to us at £25 million and upwards, then it reinforces the fact that we haven't really sold that well.
Still, Bolasie has always done well against us, so here's hoping that the signing come in and give everyone a boost.
229 Posted 10/08/2016 at 10:01:57
Mané got 11, Ayew got 12.
Yeah ...could do better here
230 Posted 10/08/2016 at 10:30:03
231 Posted 10/08/2016 at 10:30:18
When are we getting a first class goalie?
232 Posted 10/08/2016 at 11:43:26
233 Posted 10/08/2016 at 11:49:21
234 Posted 10/08/2016 at 12:00:53
We shall still look for good players with potential to be great as long as the price is right. Like the Idrissa deal and hopefully the Zieych target. Save the money to maybe up the salary median to attract players of the right caliber.
If we really need a left footed winger we have a bunch of left sided defenders that could do the job (Garbutt, Oviedo, Baines, Galloway).
235 Posted 10/08/2016 at 12:23:15
Need to be positive, a creative Number 10 and decent striker and I think we will be fine, providing we get the 2 centre-backs and no-one leaves!!
236 Posted 10/08/2016 at 12:48:41
No doubt it all stems from the fact that we were sailing close to the wind financially in the past, and had to cut our cloth accordingly. We now have a billionaire owner/investor. Let's buy the finished articles even if we have to pay a premium price. Enjoy the moment, onwards and upwards.
237 Posted 10/08/2016 at 12:53:39
238 Posted 10/08/2016 at 16:15:56
239 Posted 10/08/2016 at 16:42:11
240 Posted 10/08/2016 at 16:48:28
Niasse on loan to Palace could be a win-win. Off the wage bill this season to free up room for another signing. If he does well at Palace and I hope he does we can take him back next year or at least recoup our money.
I do wonder also what RK would of done with Naismith. I think he'd of been his sort of player and do a similar job to what Shane Long did at Saints.
242 Posted 10/08/2016 at 17:09:44
I can't help but think with a bit more imagination what we could have done with that kind of money surely better and cheaper options somewhere out there can't help but think we're gonna miss a golden opportunity. Very disappointing.
243 Posted 10/08/2016 at 17:47:07
244 Posted 10/08/2016 at 17:55:26
But on the plus side we now have the Irish McGeady, the Senaglese McGeady and possibly the Congelese McGeady! So if this goes through I'd like to wish you all 'Happy treble McGeady day!'
245 Posted 10/08/2016 at 18:08:29
He is probably looking further a field, but to address our immediate issues it looks like he wants premier league experience and I can understand his logic.
246 Posted 10/08/2016 at 18:09:34
247 Posted 10/08/2016 at 18:10:49
248 Posted 10/08/2016 at 18:16:13
249 Posted 10/08/2016 at 18:37:51
250 Posted 10/08/2016 at 18:50:01
251 Posted 10/08/2016 at 18:51:36
Also on his day Bolasie is frighteningly good. If RK is confident he can make sure his day is a Saturday, then it is a good deal.
252 Posted 10/08/2016 at 18:54:24
253 Posted 10/08/2016 at 19:18:55
254 Posted 10/08/2016 at 19:28:23
It's another option notwithstanding the price which really shouldn't matter because we don't know how much there is to spend, is spent, wages paid... it's all unknown... complete conjecture.
It's good news if we get him. And that's that.
255 Posted 10/08/2016 at 19:42:09
256 Posted 10/08/2016 at 19:44:19
He was due to meet with his agent today or tonight, what they will discuss who knows!
I like the way Williams has paid tribute to "the legend defender" that Koeman was in his playing days not enough to keep Stones though OR as I suspect Everton were not really interested in keeping him.
257 Posted 10/08/2016 at 19:55:04
* Everton were too predictable. Bolasie is unpredictable.
* Everton's build up was too laborious. Bolasie is like lightening
* Everton played too narrow. Bolasie hugs the touchline
* Everton didn't often shoot from distance. Bolasie shoots from anywhere (usually misses but hey, ho!)
Besides, in my opinion, he has the hardest shot of anyone playing in the Premier League, so if his shots do go in, they'll be well worth seeing.
If we're trying to change our ponderous style, he's worth a punt.
258 Posted 10/08/2016 at 20:42:09
259 Posted 10/08/2016 at 20:59:48
If we can get Kone and Bolasie in on top of Williams and Gana that'll be four replaced. Another striker and a good No 10 and we'll be good to go.
260 Posted 10/08/2016 at 22:10:42
Now, bring in Mata and Ziyech, and also Bony up front with Rom.
Looks OK to me.
261 Posted 10/08/2016 at 22:58:57
262 Posted 10/08/2016 at 23:08:18
He knows where the goal is and is really strong when facing goal and running at people, BUT, he is less than adequate with his back to goal, he cannot trap a bag of cement and he is exceptionally lazy and moody. A price of $55 is a steal.
Yes, the transfer market has gone mad, but it is all relative and almost unreal. It is only the net profit/loss figure that means anything, and of course, the level of improvement (or not) after all of the transactions are completed.
Confidence lads, this season will be a pleasure.
263 Posted 11/08/2016 at 03:42:37
264 Posted 11/08/2016 at 03:58:37
So onto the player himself. He undoubtedly improves the squad. That's not even debatable is it?
He's the sort of player that, when another club signs them, we all complain that Everton never seem to go for. Fast, skillful, strong, a real pain in the backside for the opposition. I'll be quite excited to see him in Blue.
265 Posted 11/08/2016 at 05:05:54
1. We cry out for a left winger.
2. Everton are linked with Bolassie.
Fact: Bolassie is a LEFT WINGER.
3. Some Everton fans complain anyway.
*Throws hands up and runs away*
266 Posted 12/08/2016 at 16:48:13
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