Everton’s Bramley-Moore stadium opportunity is one they cannot miss

Thursday 23 March 2017  6 Comments  [Jump to last]
The club have planned to leave Goodison Park before and failed; this time they appear to have the imagination and ambition to pull it off

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John G Davies
1 Posted 24/03/2017 at 16:11:29
Mr Kenwright and Co were in charge when we missed out on the Kings Dock.

Mr Moshiri is a different breed, Lyndon. We won't miss out this time.

Peter Murray
3 Posted 28/03/2017 at 10:33:13
A well researched and informative analysis from Andy Hunter, one of the few sports writers who always gives Everton a fair hearing.

All logistics are covered. However there are 2 key concerns that might need more attention. The first is "funding and planning permission."

Kings Dock fell through because of the extra 㿊 million. Has the issue of potential "rising costs"been built into the financial planning for this site?

Furthermore have we taken into consideration all heritage issues connected with Bramley-Moore? For example, as Andy Hunter points out, the dock wall is grade 2 listed.

Also,as a stadium was not in Peel's original plan for the area,we have to assume that the legal advice on a "variation" being allowed is watertight.

The second concern is "government intervention" as happened with Kirkby. This might have been welcome to most fans but a vindictive decision here (after all, the city of Liverpool is not exactly flavour of the month with the current regime and we are no longer dealing with Michael Heseltine) would be absolutely devastating.

On a personal note, with the Commonwealth Games beginning to enter the equation are we now talking about an all purpose sports stadium in which football can be played? Or are we talking about a purpose built football stadium? And will the plans at some time be put on public display?

Dean Johnson
4 Posted 29/03/2017 at 08:34:53
I think we have a winner for the most ridiculous response from kopites

https://theconversation.com/new-everton-football-stadium-could-end-up-underwater-thanks-to-global-warming-75247

Stan Schofield
5 Posted 29/03/2017 at 16:36:29
Dean, absolutely. The thought of altering business decisions on the basis of what amounts to 'prediction of the future' or 'soothsaying' is quite comical.

The predictions of the climate modelling community are presented in the media as science (so-called climate science), but in fact the predictions are based on mathematical models that cannot be validated. As such, rather than 'science', it is 'pseudo science'.

Most of the media portray differences of opinion as a battle between 'believers' and 'deniers', whereas the above issue of validation is more subtle than this (and probably beyond the ability of most commentators to comment).

That said, I can see that in the case of our new stadium, a lot of Liverpool supporters might grab hold of the climate prediction scenarios, to argue against the stadium. But it's simply nonesense.

Mike Keating
6 Posted 02/04/2017 at 14:59:27
These predictions are awarded the status of certainty because some boffins have constructed a model for disaster based upon their interpretation of the facts at hand.

In the mid 70s the JMU (then the Poly) were offered the Albert Dock as their hub. A group of experts researched its viability and concluded that the Albert Dock had no future as it was sinking.

The Poly stayed put and the JMU inherited the loss.

So much for science!

Stan Schofield
7 Posted 02/04/2017 at 22:52:40
Mike, true science is great. Pseudo-science is shite.

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