The 21-year-old is on the brink of making a £5.2m move from Málaga to Goodison Park after undergoing a successful medial last week but while an agreement is in place with the Spanish club, it doesn't appear as though personal terms have been settled.
Sandro was similarly close to moving to Atletico Madrid last month, passing a medical with that club as well, but was forced to re-think when Los Rojiblancos were hit with a six-month transfer embargo.
The striker was asked about his imminent move to Merseyside by Marca in Poland where the U21 European Championships are underway but, presumably at the direction of his agent, he played dumb on the topic.
“I don't know anything. I'm focused on the Euros,” he is reported to have said, although the belief among those with information about the negotiations is that the move is just a couple of loose ends away from being completed.
That was lent credence by Sky Sports' Rob Palmer who intimated as such on air this evening.
Sandro lines up again with Gerard Deulofeu for Spain U21s against Portugal this evening.
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1 Posted 20/06/2017 at 18:54:00
I'm sick and tired of all the drama involved with the likes of Witsel, the fella from Kiev, Sissoko etc Let's get Dembele and keep Big Rom.
2 Posted 20/06/2017 at 19:01:23
3 Posted 20/06/2017 at 19:01:28
If he wants to join us... great. If he is trying to tout himself around for a better offer, then tell him to chase himself.
4 Posted 20/06/2017 at 19:03:10
There could be all sorts of reasons he's been asked not to comment on the deal at the moment. We should just be patient and let it play out. If he doesn't sign, because his heart isn't in it – so be it; much as we hope he does but only because he wants to.
5 Posted 20/06/2017 at 19:03:58
6 Posted 20/06/2017 at 19:04:20
7 Posted 20/06/2017 at 19:04:24
Let's not feel victimised though, most other clubs are facing identical situations with their targets. For example, Defoe seems to have been on the verge of joining Bournemouth for about 6 months.
8 Posted 20/06/2017 at 19:11:00
I don't know how much we can read into this. Probably nothing.
9 Posted 20/06/2017 at 19:14:08
This is what world football authorities love. We spend off season dancing to the tune of rumour and it increases anticipation for the new season.
If we had strength or something more interesting to follow close season, we would ignore the rumours but we don't. Hence I am on TW tonight looking for latest rumour.
Sadly this article has not got me one step forward and wasted another 10 mins of my life!
10 Posted 20/06/2017 at 19:14:15
Could be he's under instruction that Evertonfc.com will make any announcements when it's done.
Best to remain tight-lipped if there is any element of doubt – Mino Raiola, take note.
11 Posted 20/06/2017 at 19:16:16
12 Posted 20/06/2017 at 19:19:45
See ya tomorrow, same time and place...
14 Posted 20/06/2017 at 19:24:29
15 Posted 20/06/2017 at 19:24:45
Seems like a thoroughly professional response to a journalist's question and nothing more. What do people want him to do, jump up & down and scream that he's an Everton player before the deal is done? He'd look like a right plonker then, wouldn't he?
This is just filling inches in papers and means absolutely zero.
16 Posted 20/06/2017 at 19:42:38
There are a lot of points that have to be worked out and when they are, we'll know about it. If talks break down, I'm pretty sure the club will make it known very quickly. In the meantime I prefer to believe that no news is good news.
18 Posted 20/06/2017 at 19:54:34
Oh for the days of clandestine meetings in motorway service stations, shock announcements in the Echo, the Boys Pen etc...
19 Posted 20/06/2017 at 19:55:40
20 Posted 20/06/2017 at 20:05:25
21 Posted 20/06/2017 at 20:07:14
If Arsenal or the RS were/are interested then we may have a problem. Money talks but so does selling the dream of the adventure that the club is embarking on, but it means that we're likely to gain a few but also lose a few over the journey.
22 Posted 20/06/2017 at 20:32:11
I'm putting my faith in ToffeeWeb rumours and nonsense.
23 Posted 20/06/2017 at 20:53:58
El Mundo Deportivo (a different paper) picked up on this with a sensational headline implying he had said the quote about knowing nothing about Everton today.
Also, the match commentator on Spanish TV has described him twice so far as an Everton player but this may not mean anything as they often get things wrong here. As others have said, we may just have to be patient on this one.
24 Posted 20/06/2017 at 21:35:13
25 Posted 20/06/2017 at 21:48:09
They interviewed Ronaldo the other day and he said "I'm focusing on the match with Portugal, he didn't piss his pants and start saying "I owe £9 million in taxes", did he?
The transfer is all but done; stop panicking, Mr Mainwaring
26 Posted 20/06/2017 at 22:18:38
27 Posted 20/06/2017 at 22:19:16
Sandro will be signing on Wednesday after the U21 match with Portugal.
And Keane on Wednesday or Thursday.
28 Posted 20/06/2017 at 22:29:25
29 Posted 20/06/2017 at 22:53:53
Wouldn't that be nice from a centre-forward?
30 Posted 20/06/2017 at 22:58:05
His heart isn't in it. Sick of the drama. Let's keep Big Rom.
Notice the contradiction? :P
31 Posted 20/06/2017 at 23:12:12
Nothing to see here.
(The kid scored a great goal tonight, BTW.)
32 Posted 21/06/2017 at 01:00:21
And I wonder what Deulofeu is telling him about the current coach? Everton should give him an ultimatum: sign for us in 48 hours or we will move on to the next target. Cut out his option and show other players we are a big club and will not be stuffed around or used by any player or club.
33 Posted 21/06/2017 at 01:22:57
Time to chillax a little and just see what happens. If it happens, great; if it doesn't, we go elsewhere.
For what it's worth, I really like the player and hope he signs, but let's not start jumping up and down when there are no facts whatsoever on the table. Unless the same journalists who wrote 'done deal' actually prove they know what's going on and supply us with an update on the delay.
34 Posted 21/06/2017 at 01:31:52
Journalists everywhere seem to know nothing. So are we still set to announce Sandro and Keane over the next 2 days? Or has there been a hitch?
In some ways it's great that nothing is coming from the club as we are acting professionally and doing business under the radar of the press. Just leaves us fans sitting around looking for scraps!
35 Posted 21/06/2017 at 04:18:19
Moreover, the Everton deal may flush out other more attractive deals. The player probably does want to focus on the Euros. Also, he seemed set for Atletico until a week ago, so maybe he's undecided.
It's kind of like if say Rashford never got a game at Man Utd, joined Swansea for a year and did well. Then Chelsea tried to sign him before getting a six-month transfer ban. All of a sudden, Valencia put in a bid. Would Rashford be all over it? Or would he wonder about a January move to Chelsea?
36 Posted 21/06/2017 at 08:27:22
We already have a striker who talks about leaving all the time, and now this guy is showing a little respect to his current club & fan base, yet we question why he isn't talking about joining us.
I think he will sign, I look forward to him occupying the Number 19 shirt and watching him score & assist goals; hopefully for Dembele in the Number 9 shirt.
37 Posted 21/06/2017 at 08:37:01
38 Posted 21/06/2017 at 08:46:13
39 Posted 21/06/2017 at 09:07:37
I reckon we might well be seeing both Sandro and Deulofeu line up in pre-season in a few weeks time.
40 Posted 21/06/2017 at 09:08:50
This tournament is just putting him in the shop window for potential gazumpers; with this in mind, my usual optimistic mind tells me we are going to lose out.
41 Posted 21/06/2017 at 10:09:05
I get the feeling he came to meet them as a safety net but he knows, if he does well in the U21 Euros, he'll bag himself a better deal somewhere sunny with maybe Champions League football.
42 Posted 21/06/2017 at 10:18:27
43 Posted 21/06/2017 at 10:37:00
44 Posted 21/06/2017 at 10:44:11
I guess you're referring too the Echo?
"Some interesting stuff in SportBild this morning. The German newspaper speculates about the future of Pierre Emerick Aubameyang, who is expected to leave the German giants this summer. And they also outline potential replacements for the Gabon striker with Malaga's Sandro mentioned as a possibility."
WIth the key words being potential replacements, and Sandro mentioned as a possibility all of this in a newspaper/website. Hardly even worth mentioning, let alone getting worried about.
45 Posted 21/06/2017 at 10:48:04
The moment Sandro played a blinder last night was the very moment other clubs sat up and took notice. :( Talk of Dortmund now showing an interest in him, and I am sure before the Under-21s has finished there will be many more ready to snatch him from our grasp.
Thing is, I thought Sandro would have been the one signing that I could help Everton bridge that gap to the top 6. Now I know he is still lined up to sign for us after the championships but I am sure there will be other clubs now contacting his agent.
If this actually does fall through then its possibly going to have repercussions for the rest of our signings. Because if it is true that we could have had him for £6m, it meant we could afford to take a hit on Sigurdsson and Dembele and pay way over the the odds for those players because of how much we would have saved on the Sandro deal.
He was going to sign for Atletico Madrid until the ban was upheld, so it's not as though he will have any affinity to us either. I so so hope I am wrong, but gutted if I am right.
46 Posted 21/06/2017 at 11:01:44
47 Posted 21/06/2017 at 11:02:22
48 Posted 21/06/2017 at 11:11:20
49 Posted 21/06/2017 at 11:11:29
You are also right that he must be chatting to Deulofeu as the squad spend loads of time together, why would they not. Deulofeu wont have good things to say about Everton or Koeman after making it clear he is not wanted and sending him out on loan.
If we do sign Sandro, then I would want Lukaku to stay.
If Lukaku did go, then we should get Dembele to play with Sandro, who I think will be better than Lukaku.
If Sandro doesn't sign and Lukaku does leave, we should go for Dembele and Iheanacho.
50 Posted 21/06/2017 at 11:32:40
Remember Spurs, Liverpool (January) and up until a few weeks ago Atletico Madrid were all showing interest. Now nothing. Just us.
It would be nice for someone to give us a hint on what is actually going on.
51 Posted 21/06/2017 at 11:38:23
We have to hope the Dortmund news is just speculation, invented because they commonly target younger players. Imo they certainly won't be buying Sandro as a replacement for Aubemeyang – he is a very different player and doesn't run in behind in the same way. So many of Aubemeyang's goals come from through balls, whereas Sandro commonly shoots from outside/edge of the area and comes deep. He might be brought as a supplement but not as a replacement.
I also like Ihneacho, Dembele and Dolberg as potential other options.
52 Posted 21/06/2017 at 11:40:42
Deulofeu has had nothing but good things to say about Everton and the fans. I have read that he was happy on Merseyside particularly with the reception he generally got from the fans so I don't know why you imagine he "wont have good things to say about Everton".
Do you have any factual evidence to back up your comment? I'm not having a go, I'm just interested.
53 Posted 21/06/2017 at 11:44:43
54 Posted 21/06/2017 at 12:16:04
Despite reportedly having passed a medical for Everton, he hasn't as yet signed. Can't blame him or his agent for delaying while still being able to impress other clubs while playing in the Under-21 tournament.
Lets hope we do sign him, as the Liverpool Echo are reporting that Lukaku has agreed personal terms with Chelsea, although the Echo also says Chelsea wont pay the £100 million asking price.
Now seeing as he still has 2 years of his contract to go, how as he been allowed to agree terms with Chelsea not agreeing to match Everton's valuation. The arrogance of Chelsea if this is true is unbelievable! Maybe we need to grow a pair and report them to the Premier League, as Southampton did to Liverpool.
55 Posted 21/06/2017 at 12:52:55
I wouldn't worry about what Deulofeu says to him, as he's not wanted by Koeman, whereas Sandro clearly is.
56 Posted 21/06/2017 at 14:45:05
57 Posted 21/06/2017 at 14:52:54
58 Posted 21/06/2017 at 14:59:14
Apart from one excellent conversion, I felt he was mostly uninvolved and out of touch with the game especially considering it was only Under-21 and not the Premier league.
I just hope that those more in the know than me are right to rave about this guy.
That is, of course, if he signs.
59 Posted 21/06/2017 at 15:04:43
I think it will happen but, as many have already said, the lad is otherwise occupied right now. Will you all be expecting and demanding signatures this time next year when players are on World Cup duty?
60 Posted 21/06/2017 at 15:20:10
61 Posted 21/06/2017 at 15:26:33
62 Posted 21/06/2017 at 16:09:39
63 Posted 21/06/2017 at 16:09:51
But hoping to hear some good news soon.
Not heard anything to say it's not happening.
64 Posted 21/06/2017 at 16:20:58
If that is correct then the vetting of the player using Walsh's in-depth method is surely flawed.
65 Posted 21/06/2017 at 16:24:01
Ken I'm finding it really difficult to reply as my tongue has become somewhat "stuck" in my cheek. ;-)
66 Posted 21/06/2017 at 18:06:30
I hope we get Sandro in but has he 20+ goals in him? Dominic Calvert-Lewin certainly hasn't,
If Rom goes, we need at least two strikers in, but I won't hold my breath for top class coming in.
67 Posted 21/06/2017 at 18:11:14
Koeman's just not going to do that after making two very good early signings and then follow it up with the likes of Deeney, ffs.
68 Posted 21/06/2017 at 18:14:36
However, surely something needs to give as the recruitment of two capable strikers must be our highest priority (I would have thought).
69 Posted 21/06/2017 at 18:19:14
The "Great Man Shanks" only wanted players who wanted to play for his team and was happy to pass on / say goodbye to anyone who didn't. Seemed to work for him.
70 Posted 21/06/2017 at 18:37:05
See what you've done!!!!!
71 Posted 21/06/2017 at 18:58:22
Do you think Sandro is Rom's replacement?
72 Posted 21/06/2017 at 19:14:54
Even with you having your tongue stuck in your cheek, we all have to actually consider whether your 'joke' is not quite close to the truth... :D
I can understand him distancing himself to concentrate on the U21 tournament, though!
73 Posted 21/06/2017 at 19:19:17
I think Sandro is just one of three strikers we'll sign, if he signs, tbh mate.
Lev (#72). Please look at #55.
74 Posted 21/06/2017 at 19:27:33
I did take a long breath, then looked though it all again. And I hoped I'd be able to edit my post before I looked too foolish... And I did! Almost... Hah! Too bad you caught me with my knickers down... ;D
75 Posted 21/06/2017 at 19:35:29
I think that's a good approach to have when it comes to transfers in general you're apt to go mad otherwise.
77 Posted 21/06/2017 at 19:42:02
78 Posted 21/06/2017 at 19:53:23
79 Posted 21/06/2017 at 20:17:03
80 Posted 21/06/2017 at 21:48:35
As has been said before I expect at least two new strikers before the start of the season.
81 Posted 22/06/2017 at 00:39:38
Time to sit back and see what the next 4 weeks will deliver. I think we may need to be careful regarding the FFP rules on total spend.
If Lukaku goes, gloves are off. Either way, nice to see Everton do early business and we will be playing football in just over a month, so time to trust Koeman and Walsh to get it right.
82 Posted 22/06/2017 at 01:19:28
Keep Lukaku and play him up front next season, he'll score 25-30 goals. Sell after him scoring two scuffed penalties in the failed Martinez World Cup campaign for £75m
Stoke at home first day with no Lukaku?
83 Posted 22/06/2017 at 02:35:55
We've bid. He's supposedly had his medical and agreed terms. He's playing out the rest of the tournament before sorting his future out. Like he said he would. What's the problem? This isn't Bungling Bill days anymore.
And what if he doesn't sign/changes his mind? It's hardly the end of the world. He's decent but no Messi. We'll just move on to other targets who do want to play for us but let's not shoot him or Everton down just yet, eh?
84 Posted 22/06/2017 at 03:48:58
85 Posted 22/06/2017 at 03:59:50
Surely anyone who will improve us will take a look at their options before committing?
This is dragging out, that tells me the player thinks he's a chance to do better. Sounds terrible, but I want players who think they are better than 7th!
86 Posted 22/06/2017 at 04:38:07
I know that we have gone down the "He's all but signed" route for a player who'll join Dortmund, Sevilla or similar next term.
We pulled this part-time rubbish with Pickford then someone realised we might have to go and actually sign the guy rather than agree "in principle" fees.
Let's sit back, relax and see Sandro win the U21 Euros and sign for Everton for £5.2M, ffs
It doesn't matter hugely as he'd be a Lucas Perez type anyway. Selling Lukaku would be much more emblematic of small-time Everton but the fact we can't get this old looking kid in within a sensible time window smacks seasoned observers as being "typical Everton".
87 Posted 22/06/2017 at 05:46:57
I count myself as a seasoned observer, but we are entering a period that is not "typical Everton". To not see that is a bit silly, don't you think?
And why is it Everton's fault, which you seem to imply? From what the kid said before the Euros started, he wants to wait until the end of said Euros before deciding on his future. What's wrong with that? It has nothing to do with our "part-time rubbish".
There is no "in principal fee" agreement. We'll met the release clause if he wants to come to us. We can't force him to sign now but waiting another week or so for him to finish up then sign is hardly a big deal is it? Who's to say he hasn't told Ron that he'll sign once the Euros have finished as he wants to concentrate on that?
And if he doesn't want to come, well good luck to him. We'll move on to other targets. He's hardly a world beater.
88 Posted 22/06/2017 at 06:36:57
Nobody else was in for Pickford & Davy Klaassen though, so nothing to bungle. This lad, we've bungled it. As you said, he's pretty crap anyway, but still.
89 Posted 22/06/2017 at 06:56:59
I don't think we've bungled it. There are many reasons why he may not have signed yet, but I just can't see that one of them is because we messed up. There isn't a whole lot to mess up as the fee was the easy part.
And I didn't say he was crap, he's just not a world beater right now from the games I've seen him play in. But he has time. Whether that is with us or not we'll no doubt see in the next week or so.
Stay positive fella! It's a brave new world!
90 Posted 22/06/2017 at 07:16:35
His movement to get on the end of Deulofeu's pass for his goal against Portugal was absolute class.
We will see I haven't given up hope just yet.
91 Posted 22/06/2017 at 07:23:18
I'm still very confident he'll come. But I'm also confident we'll get someone else decent if he doesn't.
Not worried like I would have been pre Moshiri.
92 Posted 22/06/2017 at 07:46:21
Well... 99.9999% done!!
93 Posted 22/06/2017 at 07:48:06
94 Posted 22/06/2017 at 07:54:40
95 Posted 22/06/2017 at 08:03:02
96 Posted 22/06/2017 at 08:17:50
97 Posted 22/06/2017 at 08:29:26
98 Posted 22/06/2017 at 08:30:29
99 Posted 22/06/2017 at 08:38:47
Good LP, Will.
100 Posted 22/06/2017 at 08:41:23
In any case, keep a chilled Peroni on standby for me please. :-)
101 Posted 22/06/2017 at 08:44:29
102 Posted 22/06/2017 at 08:45:48
If it doesn't work out, we would likely recoup our money, if it does then we've got a real bargain, and if it works out and he eventually leaves in a few years we would make a big profit.
A winning deal all round.
103 Posted 22/06/2017 at 08:46:22
104 Posted 22/06/2017 at 09:06:38
105 Posted 22/06/2017 at 09:13:14
106 Posted 22/06/2017 at 09:19:11
Dembele would certainly be worth a shot (although scoring for fun in SPL isn't necessarily proof of much).
Appreciate he's out the door, but would be super interesting to see Lukaku play alongside someone like this ie, direct target man alongside someone with guile in a Hazard/Silva style.
I know people will say we sort of tried this with Barkley but I don't think it's the same, Ross just isn't quick thinking enough to play in this role when he can operate on pure instinct it works, when he has options it all tends to fall apart.
107 Posted 22/06/2017 at 09:21:32
108 Posted 22/06/2017 at 09:30:31
I think he'll be good for us. A really hard working forward with good movement and the potential to score from distance.
I'm not so sure about Sigurdsson now we have Klaassen and Swansea are talking about £40m. I'd be looking for a more mobile playmaker in the Mahrez, Silva or Eriksen style. I still like Boudebouz as a value option.
Then for Michael Keane and most crucially to sort the Lukaku question.
109 Posted 22/06/2017 at 09:36:05
110 Posted 22/06/2017 at 09:38:10
He's looked dangerous when given a chance but clearly isn't quite big enough a name to push out Aguero and whoever else they sign this year at Man City.
RE: Sam #108 - I think £40M is a lot for Sigurdsson, but I'm sure that's not what would actually be paid (ie, we're not getting £100M for Lukaku, probably more like £80M tops) but equally I think he's a smarter, tidier and more dangerous attacker than Barkley who would create a lot of chances and weigh in with goals too. You'd have to be hoping for like 15 assists and 10 goals say (based on what he's achieved to date).
111 Posted 22/06/2017 at 09:38:33
112 Posted 22/06/2017 at 09:38:45
Yeah, I was looking for you earlier...
113 Posted 22/06/2017 at 09:43:46
I'm getting very excited now as I'm going to watch Transformer, bring my son, this is his first movie. One day I will be even more excited when I bring him to our new Bramley-Moore Dock stadium.
114 Posted 22/06/2017 at 09:44:15
No, the above is crap!!
115 Posted 22/06/2017 at 09:46:10
116 Posted 22/06/2017 at 09:47:46
117 Posted 22/06/2017 at 09:48:20
118 Posted 22/06/2017 at 09:50:39
119 Posted 22/06/2017 at 09:52:41
As I said I was greedy, I would want Geoff to spill more beans...
Getting all excited, transformers, Sandro and NBA draft tonight.
120 Posted 22/06/2017 at 09:52:47
121 Posted 22/06/2017 at 09:56:29
Agreed that Sigurdsson and Klaassen can (and hopefully will) play in the same team. I think Klaassen and Davies will compete for the same spot, with Gylfi in the #10 role. £40m for proven Premier League quality in that role is not over the top in my opinion. The more so if its offset by whatever we recoup on any potential Ross Barkley sale.
On Barkley, I have a suspicion he's been told by Koeman that he's not going to be an automatic starter and that is why he's not signed the contract on offer. If we do get Sigurdsson, I reckon that will spell taxi-time for young Ross.
It'll be a real pity, but as others have mentioned he just doesn't have the quality football brain / decisiveness in the final third that a really top class #10 should have. I really wanted him to succeed, but after all this time he's been found out at the highest level.
If we get Keane and Sigurdsson (and another striker, if Rom does leave, which is looking rather inevitable), I'll be delighted with our business. COYB!!
122 Posted 22/06/2017 at 10:08:25
123 Posted 22/06/2017 at 10:09:03
I think if Lukaku leaves we'll be in the market for another two strikers.
Theoretically Sandro is a replacement for Kone which still leaves us with only two strikers, not enough IMO, three minimum required this season and four would be more sensible tbh.
Whether Lukaku goes or not I'd love to see Dembele brought in. If Lukaku leaves, then for me it would be Demblele, Iheanacho, plus another.
Playing next season with two mobile, tricky, pacey strikers would be a joy. Would increase the speed of the build up play from midfield too as there'd be many more options open to them.
124 Posted 22/06/2017 at 10:11:38
I rate Iheanacho, think he would be great for us. Not hearing much about him at the moment which I find very stange sure would be a surprise if he ended up at Leicester City.
Depends on what's happening with Lukaku in a way, I guess. But if we're getting big money for him then Iheanacho will hardly be a risky investment.
125 Posted 22/06/2017 at 10:11:55
The RS have been found out for tapping up the player, although no sanction was enforced, and said they would not pursue the player any longer, and yet this gobshite is still encouraging VVD to go on strike.
This club, and all of its ex players are one big load of scum.
126 Posted 22/06/2017 at 10:17:15
127 Posted 22/06/2017 at 10:22:44
Colin (101), I'm not sure about spending the money quoted on Sigurdsson, £40m is a lot for someone who isn't very spectacular. What about Mahrez, Mata, Ramsey, Max Meyer, Arda Turan, Fabregas, Nolito etc.
128 Posted 22/06/2017 at 10:24:44
129 Posted 22/06/2017 at 10:30:33
130 Posted 22/06/2017 at 10:45:28
131 Posted 22/06/2017 at 10:48:13
132 Posted 22/06/2017 at 10:49:30
133 Posted 22/06/2017 at 10:50:34
This hurts, but I do have to recommend 'Aldo's' scouse recipe. The gobshite looks a right tool in his chef's hat but the recipe is top-drawer I'm afraid.
134 Posted 22/06/2017 at 10:56:33
135 Posted 22/06/2017 at 11:04:26
136 Posted 22/06/2017 at 11:13:30
I think he rates Dominic Calvert-Lewin very highly and I believe this player will develop into a very useful option up-front. His physique and hold-up play will be a real asset, and I think he knows where the net is too.
Don't forget, he is very young.
Work-rate is a huge thing for Koeman, regardless of which position on the pitch you play. The first thing he mentioned about Klaassen was not his skill, technique, etc but "he works hard and likes to press" I think this is a basic prerequisite for playing in a Koeman team, and incidentally, is another reason I think he's not too perturbed about the prospect of losing Barkley.
Obviously its not all about that, skill and technique, etc do come into it but I think he likes players who are skillful and work hard. Sigurdsson being another classic example.
137 Posted 22/06/2017 at 11:21:04
What would be great is for Lukaku to now remain and work with our reinforced squad to make a 'proper fist' next season both domestically and in Europe.
That would be the ultimate smack in the eye for this pesky media who depict us as a small club who cannot keep our best players.
138 Posted 22/06/2017 at 11:36:23
Still this is good work by Everton. Keep it coming.
139 Posted 22/06/2017 at 12:02:32
I have to agree with Rob about Aldridge suggesting that VVD goes on strike. I wonder if he would have suggested that Suarez did that when Arsenal met his release clause.
But how did the Daily Mirror get the quote and even more importantly why print it? I would hope that Southampton tell him he can sign for anyone but not them, unless he waits till his 5-year contract is up.
Also, I thought they released a statement apologizing and saying they have no further interest in the player.
142 Posted 22/06/2017 at 12:19:23
143 Posted 22/06/2017 at 12:23:18
So for example if someone was to come in and offer say £10M, £15M, £20M or whatever for Ramirez, so long as all parties are amenable, wouldn't that determine his destination?
This is a pure hypothetical, and I only use Sandro because this is his thread. I thoroughly believe this deal will be over the line imminently... And to pick up on Will Mabon's musical theme...
Wouldn't it be nice! (From probably one of the top 5 albums of all time!)
144 Posted 22/06/2017 at 12:30:46
145 Posted 22/06/2017 at 12:37:42
146 Posted 22/06/2017 at 12:40:47
RS owner at the time talking about Arsenal triggering Dobbin's release clause:
"“But what we've found over the years is that contracts don't seem to mean a lot in England - actually not in England, in world football. It doesn't matter how long a player's contract is, he can decide he's leaving."
He then goes on to say,
"“Since apparently these contracts don't seem to hold, we took the position we're just not selling and it's been great for Luis, it's been great for us, and what will happen at the end of year. I think we're going to make Champions League and we have a small chance of winning the Premier League this year."
Couldn't help but smile at the last bit, ha.
Seems a player only has to be informed of the bid from what I can decipher. Club don't have to sell but that means a player can agitate for a move, which often happens.
147 Posted 22/06/2017 at 12:52:08
If there is competition for the player's services then the competition will be all about how much to pay the player in wages/signing on fee. The club has to sell to anyone meeting the release clause amount so no-one will bid higher than that.
However the signing on fee to the player may be substantial as much as the transfer fee itself if the release clause is set too low and there is competition for the signature of the player.
148 Posted 22/06/2017 at 13:18:26
He was very highly rated a year or two ago but hasn't really pushed on yet which might give us a chance to steal in under the Champions League clubs' noses.
He could be a risk and might well go the way of Erik Lamela but still I think its the kind of risk worth taking; young talent with the potential to push us into the top 4 if he joins Stella in getting his groove back.
149 Posted 22/06/2017 at 13:31:41
I never quite understood why both bids weren't accepted in the end.
150 Posted 22/06/2017 at 13:43:44
If we have bid £5.2m and therefore triggered the release clause for Sandro, what's to stop say Dortmund offering more, eg £10m? (That was my hypothetical point Erik. It could be £5.3m but that is hardly a statement of intent).
Sure, personal terms and so on will have a bearing on the player's own decision as much as the attraction of one cub over another or a number of others, but surely the selling club will want to do the best they can and are a major part of the deal.
I may be being a bit dense but I don't really get the point of a low release clause.
151 Posted 22/06/2017 at 13:54:36
Twelve months later, for example, a club may come in for the player with a bid below the release clause. The club who owns the player could say "Bugger off", and the player wouldn't have any justification to complain.
If a new bid comes in that matches the release clause, the owning club would have to 'accept' the bid. The player would decide if he's interested in moving to the bidding club, and negotiate personal terms. If another club also decides they want to buy him, all they have to do is match the release clause as well, after which they can also negotiate personal terms with the player.
There's no point anybody bidding over a release clause, as the player can negotiate with any team that matches the release clause. It all comes down to the personal terms and the player's decision.
152 Posted 22/06/2017 at 13:57:07
Any club who triggers the release clause can then discuss terms with the player. Malaga get no say in it.
If more than one club trigger the release clause then the player decides which of those clubs he wishes to sign for (he could also reject all of them).
So, if Everton and Dortmund both trigger his release clause then they need to convince Sandro. Dortmund may not be able to offer the financial package that we can, but they would hope to sway it by being able to offer Champs League.
There is no need to outbid another club. Even if you did, the club that bid less, but still triggered the release clause, would still get the player if the player chose them.
Just read your comment, Ian. There was no need for my post. Very well explained.
153 Posted 22/06/2017 at 14:07:13
154 Posted 22/06/2017 at 14:08:03
155 Posted 22/06/2017 at 14:29:49
Being upset at not getting a new contract with Barça he went to Malaga on a free knowing he was better than Malaga if you like. He probably had the release clause set that low so he could move easily in the near future.
He would probably have said to Malaga that he wouldn't go there if the release clause wasn't at the figure he wanted. They'd have agreed because they were getting a Barça player on a free and if/when he did leave they get 6M.
156 Posted 22/06/2017 at 14:30:30
I guess I was kind of viewing it a bit like an auction reserve in my ignorance.
157 Posted 22/06/2017 at 14:36:07
Due to the relatively low figure he negotiated into the release clause, Sandro will be getting a massive signing on fee from his new club and significantly enhanced personal terms.
Player power indeed.
158 Posted 22/06/2017 at 14:43:45
Mr Hoare (said that to a bird once and got smacked in the mouth, weirdly/deservedly). Your knowledge on players is quite broad, just how much togger you watch a week?
159 Posted 22/06/2017 at 14:44:08
160 Posted 22/06/2017 at 14:50:27
ps / Disclaimer: "an empty box still with dips" is not a sexual connotation of any sort!
161 Posted 22/06/2017 at 14:57:29
162 Posted 22/06/2017 at 15:10:19
Even the autobots have finished saving the Earth...
163 Posted 22/06/2017 at 15:16:17
164 Posted 22/06/2017 at 15:19:54
167 Posted 22/06/2017 at 15:23:07
You were anticipating the new film with a healthy sense of optimism and I'm sure you discussed the exciting times a head with your son. Unfortunately it appears that you've been left disappointed and underwhelmed.
Sport imitates art imitates life?
168 Posted 22/06/2017 at 15:23:45
169 Posted 22/06/2017 at 15:24:05
170 Posted 22/06/2017 at 15:37:06
One of the reasons I was excited before the movie was I thought I would see the confirmation of Sandro deal once I'm out of the cinema. (That's definitely more exciting than watching autobots fighting)
171 Posted 22/06/2017 at 15:44:40
Apart from Barça, everyone wins.
172 Posted 22/06/2017 at 15:59:33
173 Posted 22/06/2017 at 16:00:42
174 Posted 22/06/2017 at 16:08:07
175 Posted 22/06/2017 at 16:13:22
Hoping to hear of a bid of £15 Million for that Sessegnon at Fulham.
176 Posted 22/06/2017 at 16:23:29
178 Posted 22/06/2017 at 16:24:16
Sigurdsson will be a tricky deal to do, the player isn't one to force a move and Swansea will demand a king's ransom. Great player but there are better options at £40m for me.
179 Posted 22/06/2017 at 16:30:04
180 Posted 22/06/2017 at 16:32:31
It finally feels that this club is becoming professional commercially and operationally.
181 Posted 22/06/2017 at 16:33:48
182 Posted 22/06/2017 at 16:33:53
183 Posted 22/06/2017 at 16:36:41
184 Posted 22/06/2017 at 16:51:06
185 Posted 22/06/2017 at 16:54:13
186 Posted 22/06/2017 at 17:01:07
187 Posted 22/06/2017 at 17:03:20
188 Posted 22/06/2017 at 17:04:05
189 Posted 22/06/2017 at 17:04:41
190 Posted 22/06/2017 at 17:16:37
191 Posted 22/06/2017 at 17:28:52
The announcement was supposed to be today according to the Echo and yet... nothing.
Maybe the Echo have jumped the gun?
192 Posted 22/06/2017 at 17:32:48
So many things I want to say here but I'd get banned *lol*.
193 Posted 22/06/2017 at 17:36:14
194 Posted 22/06/2017 at 18:50:38
195 Posted 22/06/2017 at 18:56:04
That's a downright ripoff of my stupid made up rumour on here, and just as fucking stupid!
196 Posted 22/06/2017 at 19:04:09
I think someone is talking crap to be honest. We might have people talking to him right now, but it's not finalised or it would be "breaking news" on the official site.
Might have to get laser tattoo removal now. :(
Ray (#176) I hope your right. :)
197 Posted 22/06/2017 at 19:08:46
There is no way on earth Everton would agree to a deal like that.... surely!!??!
Oh and laser's gonna be painful in THAT area.
198 Posted 22/06/2017 at 19:52:31
199 Posted 22/06/2017 at 19:58:59
He may think we're just a stepping stone and that he can treat us like Malaga. If that's the case, then I hope we move on swiftly. The release clause that he had inserted into his Malaga contract was a total piss take. Great for us, but disrespectful to Malaga. It meant that he had all the power and Malaga would get the fee of an average Championship player. Their fans are calling him a mercenary, and who can blame them?
I am keen for us to sign him, but not on his terms. If he just wants to use us for a decent payday until Atletico come calling, then his heart isn't in it, and we should look elsewhere.
Listen to the soundbites from both Klaassen and Pickford. They're thrilled to be here and clearly proud to be part of our great club. Those are the types of players that we need.
In saying all of that, I guess we're not yet in a position to be too fussy when it comes to top talent. Maybe getting him here would lead to him falling in love with the club? Who knows?
So... not really sure how I feel about something that is just another rumour that hasn't been substantiated by anyone who knows anything... I'm turning off the wifi.
Edit: it would seem that the source of this rumour/information is a Malaga radio station. Whether that makes it more believable is anyone's guess.
200 Posted 22/06/2017 at 20:05:13
201 Posted 22/06/2017 at 20:06:56
But if money floats his boat then the Murdoch £Millions + Mr Moshiri must set a course for Goodison Park.
202 Posted 22/06/2017 at 20:18:21
203 Posted 22/06/2017 at 20:34:12
204 Posted 22/06/2017 at 20:36:19
205 Posted 22/06/2017 at 20:36:26
206 Posted 22/06/2017 at 20:37:36
It's fucking ridiculous!
207 Posted 22/06/2017 at 20:42:28
Just a note for anyone concerned that official radio silence from Everton so far today means the Sandro deal has somehow been derailed. It hasn't.
It is, as we reported first thing, done and dusted and it's now a case of what time the club officially want to announce it.
We're still pretty certain that'll be today but if not maybe they're waiting until the morning...
So it appears any delay in the announcement is down to the club, probably on Sandro's wishes after Spain play their semi-final.
208 Posted 22/06/2017 at 20:44:21
209 Posted 22/06/2017 at 20:44:46
210 Posted 22/06/2017 at 20:47:10
211 Posted 22/06/2017 at 20:50:02
Seems everybody's getting fed up of PP.
Edit. Just come to me. It was about Dick Van Dijk at Southampton.
212 Posted 22/06/2017 at 20:51:56
213 Posted 22/06/2017 at 20:55:29
214 Posted 22/06/2017 at 20:57:21
215 Posted 22/06/2017 at 21:11:39
Somewhere there is a club involved in this who have the bloody cheek of making their own decision when to announce a transfer. Disgrace.
We are all hyped up with stuff from the oracles at the Echo and how we are suffering.
A proud club should immediately comment on everything a journalist, pundit, player or agent says. After all they are the real bosses.
The club also owes it to fans to put us out of our hysterical misery every time a rumour starts.
Jesus the bloody cheek.
216 Posted 22/06/2017 at 21:13:21
217 Posted 22/06/2017 at 21:19:04
218 Posted 22/06/2017 at 21:29:27
219 Posted 22/06/2017 at 21:42:44
If so, he's improved a bit and something of a coup for the Norwegian songsters Que Salah...
220 Posted 22/06/2017 at 22:23:14
221 Posted 22/06/2017 at 22:45:35
222 Posted 22/06/2017 at 22:51:02
223 Posted 22/06/2017 at 22:56:51
Has anything actually happened yet that can be confirmed? I haven't seen anything remotely like an official announcement yet Geoff Lambert appears to be patting himself on the back! Wasn't it Wednesday for Sandro, Thursday for Keane (and no concern about him being busy at a tournament)?
Geoff, you need to be providing more than you have on this thread if you are going to peddle supposed ITK gold. I'd rather not know until something has been completed than all this "It's coming soon, I've got a good source." pause and repeat melodrama.
224 Posted 22/06/2017 at 22:57:15
Seems to me Malaga are well pissed off and intend to make things as difficult as possible.
225 Posted 22/06/2017 at 23:02:54
However, I'd like to offer double or quits that it happens tomorrow instead!
226 Posted 22/06/2017 at 23:05:07
227 Posted 22/06/2017 at 23:34:27
228 Posted 22/06/2017 at 23:59:50
The Mirror says Malaga are dragging their feet and Everton have sent over the club secretary to sort it out; I feel a lot more positive it will happen now.
229 Posted 23/06/2017 at 00:06:23
230 Posted 23/06/2017 at 00:25:55
231 Posted 23/06/2017 at 00:28:43
232 Posted 23/06/2017 at 02:08:36
233 Posted 23/06/2017 at 07:05:31
Assuming it is also correct that we are prepared to meet the buyout clause, the only way in which Malaga could block the transfer is to refuse to do business until their transfer window officially opens.
235 Posted 23/06/2017 at 08:09:43
236 Posted 23/06/2017 at 08:26:10
Latest from the Mirror: "His club Malaga have placed every obstacle in the way of a swift conclusion to the transfer because of the low clause inserted by the player when he moved to them a year ago."
What this is based on is anyone's guess and I reckon just guesswork to fit a delay.
If I was a modern journo, I would go onto the like of TW, read what concerns fans, make up a story to amplify that fear, and then watch my readership/hit rate increase!
Latest from Times/Sun/Mirror etc
"Pickford Deal in Danger of Being Reversed in Brussels Standoff.
Football insiders are telling me that, in a shock development... blaah blah."
237 Posted 23/06/2017 at 08:56:52
238 Posted 23/06/2017 at 08:58:01
239 Posted 23/06/2017 at 09:02:04
240 Posted 23/06/2017 at 09:08:46
Back to Pickford though. Has anyone noticed he has an extremely large bottom? He either wears very tight shorts or he has a Bantu-esque sized rear end.
241 Posted 23/06/2017 at 09:12:04
"Latest from Times/Sun/Mirror etc"
"Concerns about the size of Pickford's arse. Theresa May heckled. Could this mean a hard Brexit" etc, etc.
242 Posted 23/06/2017 at 09:51:37
Colin, you're scaring me.
243 Posted 23/06/2017 at 09:52:43
Is it on a Kardashian scale? If so, his post-football career is assured.
244 Posted 23/06/2017 at 09:54:24
Is anyone else concerned about his handling of crosses? I'm sure it's an area he will improve on but it's a little worrying. I can see opposing teams bombing crosses over as we don't have any tall, imposing defenders, and now we also have a relatively short goalie.
I'd really like to see us buy a tall and aerially dominant centre back.
245 Posted 23/06/2017 at 10:00:09
246 Posted 23/06/2017 at 10:19:39
247 Posted 23/06/2017 at 10:23:02
248 Posted 23/06/2017 at 10:26:05
I think we should all boycott cheap holidays to Malaga, until they release Sandro to us.
249 Posted 23/06/2017 at 10:29:52
250 Posted 23/06/2017 at 10:31:03
Interesting that Bournemouth's cook came 2nd for aerial duels and 1st for clearances by a huge margin! Hasn't he been championed on here before? I think by Mike Gaynes.
251 Posted 23/06/2017 at 10:36:50
252 Posted 23/06/2017 at 10:45:09
253 Posted 23/06/2017 at 10:45:48
254 Posted 23/06/2017 at 10:55:52
Those were the days, if you can overlook the whole Walter Smith thing.
255 Posted 23/06/2017 at 11:40:12
Yes he's only young and has loads of potential but I have a feeling if he does come to us that he will not be happy to stay and will be using us as a stepping stone like Lukaku did.
We all thought it a little strange that he had a buy-out clause for so little but obviously this is how he does his contracts with clubs he's not overly happy to stay with long term. He probably wants to stay in Spain and play for one of the top 3 teams and moving to Atletico Madrid is probably his first choice but a year in the Premier League might improve his overall experience.
256 Posted 23/06/2017 at 11:42:01
Derek, Josh King's stats are mediocre at best until 2017 when he hit a hot streak in the 2nd half of the season and scored 13 league goals. However, he only scored 3 league goals in the first half of the season.
Incidentally, Lukaku outscored him in 2017 (January-May) with 14. I was surprised by that because he dropped off when King seemed to be banging them in every week.
257 Posted 23/06/2017 at 11:43:53
Reminds me of the Fellaini thread!!!
258 Posted 23/06/2017 at 12:08:29
259 Posted 23/06/2017 at 12:11:17
260 Posted 23/06/2017 at 12:14:52
261 Posted 23/06/2017 at 12:19:23
262 Posted 23/06/2017 at 12:38:35
I've just made that rumour up, so it must be true.
263 Posted 23/06/2017 at 12:46:40
Maybe they are waiting for the release clause to expire, so they can pay more for the player.
Isn't that what you argued regarding Fellaini?
264 Posted 23/06/2017 at 12:51:21
265 Posted 23/06/2017 at 12:55:43
I'm surprised there are no sound bites coming from the club though, which I deem as a positive, actually.
266 Posted 23/06/2017 at 13:35:23
It wouldn't be a surprise if Sandro and his agent are insisting on one with us, even though it's not the norm in the UK. I just hope we negotiate the clause to be ridiculously big.
It's obvious that Atletico was his first choice, and with that in mind, I'm sure he would have insisted on a release clause that Atletico wouldn't baulk at. That's a bit worrying. Not sure I'm going to be able to get behind someone using us as a payday and stepping stone.
If (as it's just a rumour) the clause has indeed been inserted, I very much doubt we will hear about it as the club will not want to publicise its existence. No doubt his agent will let interested clubs know all about it before next summer.
267 Posted 23/06/2017 at 13:41:28
Malaga may be dragging their heels but if Everton activated his release clause, there is nothing they can do. If they fiddle us around, they are breaking contract law and they could end up in trouble.
If it is true about whether his representatives are looking for a release clause in his potential Everton contract, we'd better have it at £20m plus.
268 Posted 23/06/2017 at 14:11:14
269 Posted 23/06/2017 at 14:56:36
270 Posted 23/06/2017 at 15:07:07
271 Posted 23/06/2017 at 15:08:17
272 Posted 23/06/2017 at 15:13:32
273 Posted 23/06/2017 at 15:18:07
274 Posted 23/06/2017 at 15:20:34
If not, let's get some more done while we wait for Sandro and Malaga!
275 Posted 23/06/2017 at 15:22:43
276 Posted 23/06/2017 at 15:24:51
277 Posted 23/06/2017 at 15:26:22
Don't ask me why. Well you can if you want, but I don't know. ;-)
278 Posted 23/06/2017 at 15:37:14
What worries me is the exact details regarding any buy-out clause. I don't think we should be buying any player who seems to indicate he will want to be off to his first choice club 12 months down the line.
Hopefully these rumours are just that and any such clauses will be to our benefit.
279 Posted 23/06/2017 at 15:37:46
Logic and TW? Now there is a thought.
280 Posted 23/06/2017 at 16:00:27
281 Posted 23/06/2017 at 16:25:42
It's about as rare on here as a kopite admitting responsibility! :-)
282 Posted 23/06/2017 at 16:33:28
I know he is busy and all that but I've heard all the kids are on MySpace these days so why hasn't Sandro posted something reassuring like a big thumbs up next to a photo of Imre Varadi or something?
283 Posted 23/06/2017 at 16:43:22
You don't need permission from UEFA to wear a Liverpool jersey! (nor any kind of self-respect or dress sense). But the registration won't have gone through yet. But contractually all done and dusted
284 Posted 23/06/2017 at 16:58:02
Spain 2017-07-01 2017-09-01
No wonder there is confusion. They think there are 2017 days in July and Jesus was around last year.
285 Posted 23/06/2017 at 17:14:45
286 Posted 23/06/2017 at 17:29:21
287 Posted 23/06/2017 at 17:33:56
288 Posted 23/06/2017 at 17:50:03
Brian, you told me not to worry, you said Koeman wouldn't sign any bums!
289 Posted 23/06/2017 at 18:40:56
290 Posted 23/06/2017 at 18:52:00
291 Posted 23/06/2017 at 18:58:16
292 Posted 26/06/2017 at 14:33:54
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