Premier League — Matchweek 8

Damnit Richy!

its about time someone is sent off for acting

Yay. Didnt think that would happen 0-1 Spurs

Barkley on. Spurs relieved.

I suppose over there you’ll watch Brighton v Shite. We get Hammers v Gaudis.

1-0 Hammers on dreadful Geordie keeping. Eddie’s second season is facing some challenges early.

RS mistake. A goal down! VVD fault again!

Should be an obvious 2nd yellow for Guimares but the ref lets him off with a warning.

Right on Brighton!

Brighton rock!

Surely someone is to blame for the RS being down?

The government should launch a public inquiry.

Steve,

Rishi has already posted the government will look into it.

Bollox, Salad has equalised. The comments on BBC is that midfield is over-run. Good news for us if we have Garner in the middle.

Klopp now backing VAR. Best thing since sliced bread.

And there's Brighton's weakness - bringing the ball out of defence. Didn't one side in particular exploit that last season?

Ah shite, the Shite are winning.

Since it was such a good headed pass to Isak by the Hammers defender the offside position did not matter. Two ridiculous mistakes, 1-1

And he doubles on some sleeping position by Hammers’ LB. 1-2 Newcastle

That was never going to be given. I can hear Klopp already praising VAR

Get in.

Robertson, clown.

Great defending by the shite! 😂😂😂

No Farkov Redz comments yet? :)

FFS….What a miss by Pedro.

Pedro you knob

Moyes level

Overall some good results for us this round.

in our push for top 6 Dale; could do with a villa goal

12 mins added on at wolves

wazza got a taxi, missed that

Shhh Paul, that was to be the new year’s resolution.

we need a song; what rhymes with top six

A good weekend. The Toffee Lady dancing, the Kopite holding his needle (point).

Robertson jumping like a fairy scared of the ball. Get at these. They don't like it.

that hwang is banging them in

If you’re a Carly fan maybe ‘euro lane, prob’ly thought we’d suck so just fuck you- Euro Lane!’.

we'd suck is total yank, no good

Wow, City have won their last 12 v Arsenal!

Pfffft! Sorry to ruffle your scarf Reginald.

Does anyone know how many penalties Liverpool/ Salah have had already his season? It seems like they more or less get one every game.

Joe, I think the shite get to decide which end they’d like the penalty when they win the toss.

All teams can point to “what if” but with us it is startling!

9 points dropped at home against teams we should have beaten and not only on paper!!

7th at worst.

To have ruffled your scarf that is.

can't do saka white rice today

VISIT RWANDA fecking tory gooners

saka white rice - very good (Reginald!).

Rwanda is a lovely 80 degrees today. Balmy. Balls.

I think that I made Brent smile, my day's work is done

You’re so vain ha.

It's insulting to City's forwards to compare them to what Arteta has put out today.

Don't knock Rwanda, they've tapped our govt for £160m for not taking any refugees. That's the kind of business acumen that might get them a seat on our new board

City should be down to ten.

Spot on, Paul.

First one, Kovacic in from behind, no chance of getting the ball, gets the man instead. Red? Probably harsh but certainly a yellow. Still gets the VAR review treatment, which backs Oliver.

Second one, Kovacic in from behind, no chance of getting the ball, gets the man instead. Surely at least a second yellow? No, not even a card at all according to Oliver. Therefore no VAR check.

Just bizarre from PGMOL's best. Oliver just resolute he was not going to send the City player off. That Twat Savage making the same point on 5Live.

Agree MK, equally nuts was not slinging Kovacic at half-ttime.

That Trossard is not having the best of times, worth keeping an eye on him maybe for a sneaky bid next year. Arsenal doing much better this half; Martinelli makes a difference.

Gooners deserved that; Arteta having a good day, three subs made/got that goal (see my last 4 words in last post)

City have lost as many as Palace.

Paul, that City match was awful. 2 possession teams, 2 hour borefest.

City strangely flat-footed Joe, especially 2nd half, Sakaless Arsenal stepped up and City just well were boring!

Haaland has looked ordinary for a couple of months. Foden, their best player, did not get himself into the game. To be fair, that was the game that Arteta wanted; he did a good job today.

I always maintain, within reason, don't be concerned about the table until after the Christmas period.

Level with the much admired Brentford. Four points behind Chelsea and within two games reach of Newcastle.

It's all to play for and a long way to go. We've won 3 out of the last 4, scoring 8 goals and conceding 3.

Sorry Alfie, I meant weeks not months, yer lad aint that bad

The reason for the small gaps are the small number of games played so far Danny. I'm one of those so-called 'happy clappers', but anyone who thinks that we turned a corner yesterday against a piss-poor team is in cloud-cuckoo land. If, IF, DCL, Jimmy Garner, McNeil (MOM yesterday), future skipper Branthwaite, and the Leeds lad can play consistently in the time to come as they played yesterday then I see a comfy mid-table finish. Whatever happens, no way are we going down, look at what is below us.

UTFT

RIP Terence Davies

Fair one Paul and I agree. We are not going down.

Off topic, but on topic, is it me or were Arsenal trying to be some sort of Italian team with a made up anthem? And then impersonating Kopites with the "Allez Allez Allez" chant?

1878. The Originals. I told a guy on the train this morning that and called him a tourist. Says the now London based boy!!

I was wondering about that song at the start as well. Commentators singing its praises.

You not doing your match reports any more Danny?

If you want to be bored…

Compared to Last Season's fixtures (just the bottom 6 from last season):

Forest - same as last year
Wolves - 4 points down
Everton - 1 point down
Burnley (Leicester) - same as last year
Sheff Utd (Leeds) - 1 point down
Luton (Southampton) - 7 points down

I think on that basis - it proves what we all thought in July, Luton down and then there is 2

Paul (59), Yes he wrote some good plays based on his own experiences, they were well received on TV all those tears ago, he was born in Liverpool and had a rough time growing up.

Youngest of 10 Dave, staunch Kensington Catholic family, no clue if he was us or them. The documentary - Of Time and the City - is only fifteen years old, some real teary misty-eyed stuff, nostalgia can work both ways, but only one here.

Dave,

“Of time and the city “ is a masterpiece.

Well worth a watch if you haven’t seen it

Chris (65),

I'm not sure if it is only 15 years old as Paul says @ (64). The ones I watched, definitely on TV, were a lot older than that, but I'll try and get it on YouTube. The ones I did watch were very good, unique even.

Shame City lost. We need them to keep winning, they're the only bulwark against the Shite given Spurs and Arsenal haven't the mentality. Over the season the Shite will rein them in.

Especially with the referee’s now being shit scared of them now they have been put in there place Barry.

Dave: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzcQvRtXnYg

Dave, it’s brilliant,

Probably 15 years ago. But a great film. Not seen it on TV.

“Thou art Peter and you’re a brick”

Chris and Paul, thanks, I’ve been trying the last few minutes to get the film but can only get the trailer, the trailer rings a bell but I’m still not sure if I’ve seen it or not.

Tony 68

Absolutely spot on

Dave, this is a link to the full film - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzcQvRtXnYg

Paul (73), I’ve tried that code a couple of times and all I’m getting is : Your subscription has run out on the 5th of October, I’ve never had a bleedin’ conscription with them !!

Dave, give me your credit card details and I'll set up the film for you.

Are you that nice Nigerian Prince who’s looking after all my money, now masquerading as Brent Stephens?

Couldn't possibly comment, Mr Rich (once).

I wonder if it's a Yank thing Dave: it (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzcQvRtXnYg) works perfectly for me, let me see if there's another way.

Trent ( 75)) I haven’t got a credit card or a mobile phone I’m just getting over the Second World War and was severely traumatised by it and still living by those times!

Dave- I have the film. If you would like a copy of it I would be most happy to burn you a dvd of it? I can attatch my BBC film of the kids I found who were captured who were pictured with Bob Dylan on the 14 May 1966…. amongst other things that happened on that day that I got into the film? Another bit of Liverpool social history…

It's $3.99 to rent on Amazon Prime if you have it Dave - what's that, three quid? You can get a free week's trial if you don't have it. - three quid fifty pence to rent here https://player.bfi.org.uk/rentals/film/watch-of-time-and-the-city-2008-online

Ah, forget the rental options then Dave if you have no card.

Brent, Rich? As poor as a church mouse that’s just been mugged at evensong.

Mr Abrahams #79 " I’m just getting over the Second World War and was severely traumatised by it and still living by those times!"

I'm very sorry to hear about your other war experiences (I thought the Boer War was your one and only miltary service). This all probably explains your post-match analyses!

PS, Dave - do you have Tony's credit card details instead?

Just out of interest, can someone else in the UK see if this works for them:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzcQvRtXnYg

Paul, no.
"Video unavailable
This video contains content from Lasso Group, who has blocked it in your country on copyright grounds"

Cheers Brent, that's a shame, I wish Dave could see it, it's the only free link I can find

He taught me well Brent, and it’s only reserved for paying my household bills, mate! On a more serious note I was speaking to someone in a very good job, who was telling me he applied for a loan. He couldn’t believe the questions he was asked, including being told he likes to gamble (he has a little online account for a few football bets) and felt they had taken intrusion a little bit too far.

Fuck them he said, I told them to forget about the loan, and I’ve started drawing three grand out of the bank as soon as my wages go in now. I’ve been telling you for years, I replied. Big brother is no longer just watching us, it’s now starting to control us. Cash is king!

@Paul Ferry, I couldn't get to Luton because of the train strikes. It was full on rather than the usual reduced service I have managed to get away with. Simply no trains beyond Watford Junction. I was at a family wedding this weekend and had a word with my brother about checking fixture lists before getting married.

I was going to decline but got put under pressure by the family.

Interesting tales and I'll watch that film Brent.

The City of Liverpool, the city of my birth, has always fascinated me. Unique in so many ways. Full of history and heritage. Most of my Dad's side of the family grew up in the then Garston Tenements before being moved to Speke. Ten of them in a tenement flat.

My Grandad on my mother's side, having moved from Belfast, initially settled in Garston before moving to Speke. My mother grew up there and died in her housing association house that was literally metres from where she lived as a child.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that no matter how successful you are or how far you travel, you never forget your roots.

Chris (80),

Thanks very much for your kind offer Chris but I'll get my grandson to order the DVD of ‘ Time and the City ‘ for me and maybe a couple more of Terence Davies films. I'll get my money back by renting them out to Tony!

On a serious note Chris were you involved in some way with Michael Palin and a series he did, one where he was a fanatical football supporter or am I getting you mixed up with another ToffeeWeb poster?

Brent (84),

Watching some of the Everton players in the last 3 years is more traumatic than my wartime experiences including the time our school was bombed by Adolph and his gang, The Friary – what a school that was. You don't know the half of it Brent sheltered in leafy Formby!

Chris @80 is that film about the kids in the Dylan photo available to watch online?

Neil (92), just Google "Bob Dylan meets Liverpool kids May 1966", it gives you the story and some photos of the day.

Pre-derby build up………..

The Croatia v Turkey qualifier is worth a watch.

Myko rotated out of position twice unwisely in the first half but settled. In the second half he has played Mudryk through twice beautifully. One should have been a goal, the other should have been played back to Myko for a clean shot. Mudryk has lost his confidence playing in the PL. Too bad for Chelsea. UKR 1-0 89th min

What the fuck do you do on a weekend when there's no match? Breathe more easily, I suppose, but there must be more.

The Hungary v Serbia match will be riveting relative to other options.

Paul, simple, watch something like this……….

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9YRXj9598kM

Good back and forth at 2:30. Very good

And then some shite comments around 6. Typical coverage snobs.

Great stuff, Rob. I absolutely love that video, love the start, the train… everything. What a weekend.

We were in Covent Garden, Friday night, at the Punch and Judy (it's still there) packed with blues. Went up the road to The Cambridge at Cambridge Circus, on Wembley Way by 10 after greasy brekkie. So glad to have these memories.

The scenes when the team coach arrived

Notice Jimmy Martin driving the coach? How young does he look? Mind you it was 39 years ago!

I can’t believe there’s no proper football this weekend so England including Jordan f@cking Henderson can play Australia!
Ffs!

I did, Lancashire lad, love him - this I found a little sad, it's a Man-U fan taking a tour of The Old Lady and then heading off to Bramley Moore, sad in a nice way, moving. I'm not even thinking of a last game at The Old Lady. I can't even begin to imagine the state you'll be in Rob! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1n6xJx1I74

Ward-Prowse not even in the squad but that piss on human rights give me the dosh piece of mediocre shite is the skipper. He got booed for a reason Southgate you Harrogate knob and guess what bollocks it was not all down to the footy

Not just me, Paul, but thousands of us. Leaving Goodison will be sad, no doubts about it, but really excited about moving to BMD. It’s going to be a mega stadium, without doubt one of the best in the country, and certainly the best on Merseyside.

Yep, it's exciting, I'm assuming over the next twelve months or so that a few more places will open down by BMD. That BM boozer is gonna get swamped. I haven't been to the site for six months or so but not much seemed to be going on in terms of food and drink outside the ground. I know town is not far away but outside the ground matters too. I wonder how many of those pubs we love and know so well in and around County Rd will suffer. Mind you, it's only once every two weeks.

Great news coming out of Manchester tonight, the Glazers are going to give it another go! There are few things I've enjoyed more in the football world recently than their careful stewardship of that mighty football club. It's like what a spider does, United are still alive, just braindead.

Rugby it is then, hate rugby, need sport,

Rugby seems much more grown up than football. Better organised, no amateur dramatics, transparent and spectator inclusive, more integrity and less partisan. Boring as fuck lol.

Public schoolboys ahead by two goals. I've been to Fiji. Awful poverty. This will give their island something to smile about.

Great goal by Fiji when down a player. Keane defending by the public schoolboys. Embarrassing.

Paul (111) haha brilliant! Very true.

My kids got us all free tickets to the 'rugger' at Bath and it bored the life out of me.

Give me the grime and filth of watching English footy everytime!

They just run at each other and some fella either drops or carries the ball and grunts and groans and then the stupid twats kick the ball out for a throw in

Duncan - footy every time.

Cheating twats. They dive every chance they get, diving everywhere, and knobhead refs never spot it - shite game, only toffee-nosed cheats could ever like it

For those interested the Everton women's team just went 1 up vs Liverpool at Anfield. On Sky Sports...

Thank God, you're a star Ian.

1-0 HT, great to see

Paul, shame there's no Live Forum. The pun potential would make it entertaining.
A friend of mine living in Sweden regularly watches his local women's team. A few seasons ago, they were 4 nil down at half-time to the best team in the league. The manager took off 4 players at the start of the second half, game ended 4 nil. When asked by a reporter what had made the difference in the second half, the losing manager said taking off the 4 blondes and replacing them with brunettes helped...a week later he was sacked.

Fiji goal

Good game to watch, I thought Liverpool were going to run away with this game, scoring in the first couple of minutes, over ruled by a very close, but nice, VAR person, then Everton got into the game and finally scored after missing a sitter.

The left-back has stood out for me and the goalie always gives the defence confidence with her safe handling and organising. Keep it up girls.

Fiji Goal!!!! Public schoolboys embarrassed.

We need a decent left back and some think we need a keeper (not me). It is enjoyable to watch Dave (do let us know what you think of the Davies film when you finally get to see it, I'd be really interested).

You kick it over the bar and get points, bizarre

There should be one Ian. It's a really good game.

aghhh, should have been 2-0

cheating red shite diver, where's the yellow

Our taliswoman is coming on

You watching the women PF

So, this Rugby Union stuff. They give penalties for technical fouls, like putting your hands on the floor in a ruck or putting your knee down, and it's 3 points.

But I've seen at least 5 blatant and obvious forward passes in today's game and the Ireland game that were missed or ignored.

It's a basic rule that you can't pass the ball forward but refs in Union can track our refs a thing or two as they know the technical rules and the players don't call them cunts!

I am Hewey, sky mainevent

1-0, 15 to go PH, the shite have never scored against us at Mordor

I notice they've run out of balck armbands

Let's hope the men can do the same next weekend

Brilliant footy, off the bar, bollocks

If only PH

I think van den hauwe's daughter just got a yellow

Get in Girls. First to every ball all afternoon. That's how you win at Mordor. Thoroughly deserved.

Are you watching Dychie's boys ?

That was an easy win again

Get in ladies, well done

The shite have not scored against us in 4 Mordor derbies

Four Mordor derbies - four wins - scored six, conceded zero

An omen for next week?

I wouldn't think so.

I'm not sure if it's an omen Brent, but if Everton played like Dave C described then that sounds like the perfect example.

I read the other day that the first ever Everton v Liverpool game was played in October 1894 (12th or 13th?) and Everton won 3-0. It's about time we went to Anfield, and stopped giving Liverpool to much respect, especially at a time when the moaning bastards are really feeling sorry for themselves, and feel like everyone has got it in for them.

Tony, I want to leave my seat at that other place next week with a spring in my step. Positivity rules!

It’s not often you see more than a few hundred scousers on the kop, but that’s exactly what we saw today, mainly in blue. Even better was seeing the Everton girls celebrating in front of the kop at the end!! 👍👍👍

If you are not going to be positive going to Anfield, then it's no use turning up imo, Brent.

We supporters might not have the talent of our players (it's why we only support) but when it comes to desire, to fight, and to the heart shown by “The Evertonians” then, if our players can match our fans, I genuinely believe we can come away from Anfield next week victorious.

I am definitely the type of Toffee who wouldn't mind playing Liverpool every week although it's been a very long time since we met fire with a big fucking hose-pipe!!

Psycho Pat, summed it up the best in his book…. Fuck Them! 🤞

What a fantastic game of rugby this France v South Africa is.

Sport at its finest, Paul, it's been an absolute pleasure watching that first half, so hopefully it continues in the same vein for the next 40 minutes.

Agree, Tony. I just don't understand people who don't like rugby. Both codes.

I am like a Liverpudlian when it comes to both codes of rugby, Paul, because I much prefer watching it on the television!

Tony (150) Totally agree 100%. People moan about the need for massive changes in mentality throughout the club - quite rightly. So are we - the loyal fans and supporters included in all of that? I hate to say it but the RS have all of this in spades and their supporters have dragged them over the line on many an occasion. EVERYONE needs to go there - and any game as one. DO IT BLUES.

Btw… saw last 20 minutes of the Women's game…. team 1-0 up… at their place and literally camped out in their half for the rest of the game. I said to my dearest regards their excellent tactics “I hope Mr Dyche is watching this”…???

What a pleasure to watch that game.

Agree Paul. What a contest.

I take heart from watching many different types of sport, especially when I’m watching the top level, so I’ve obviously just taken heart from watching that game of rugby tonight. Thrilling stuff, the French were so fast and skillful, and moved the ball so fluently at speed, but the South Africans, were very savvy, and so resilient, and played with the heart of true champions.

Rugby was the winner tonight, and if I was looking at the derby next week through the eyes of Chris H, I think one of our biggest problems over the last few years in these games (besides talent) is that we want to beat them that much, that it can possibly work against us?

It’s been a long time since Big Joe Royle, had the kopites, getting more wound up after every passing derby, and he had definitely got under their skin, which made it so much harder for them to beat us, imo.

It’s why I always say it’s just another game, even if I know the overall importance of the fixture. I think I’ve always known how to play Liverpudlians at their own game, but it’s no good us supporters knowing unless the team knows to, because it’s what happens out on the pitch, that wins football matches. Don’t be scared - “just believe”

Tony. The think with the derby is, We're beaten before we get on the pitch. That's the players mentality.

Definitely at Anfield, Paul, but not so much at Goodison. Liverpool are a very good team, and they can definitely score goals, with fast aggressive counter attacking football, from almost any area of the pitch, but they can also definitely be got at, and this is what we must do if we are to stand a chance of getting anything out of the game.

The Liverpudlians are going to be very aggressive next week, because they believe the whole footballing world is against them at the moment, (very natural when things don’t go their way) so Everton have got to be both tough and savvy, and stand up to these entitled fuckers, otherwise we will be better just staying at home.

It’s going to be a very long time since Everton have gone into a derby match with me feeling confident, and if my bet comes in next week, I might even be able to take my family on holiday! We will see😂

Tony #159] Like you I watched the rugby World Cup quarterfinals - 4 great games and all close.
What was particularly interesting was how thorough and clear their TMO (VAR) discussions and decisions were - including the conversations with the on pitch referee. Plus they were displayed on screen for the TV viewer. A complete contrast to the shambolic EPL equivalent.

My own conclusion is that since football has become a saturated television sport, then it needs controversy to survive Mike, because it’s not that often that we see a really great game? I might be wrong because I don’t even watch that much football nowadays, but why did Liverpool football club request the live audio, after the Spurs game?

I thought the live audio was shocking, but I suppose that keeps it in line, with how I view most officiating nowadays.

Paul@160, I agree with we are beaten before we step out over the park mentality and it is something that needs to change this weekend.

With Robertson out, it’s the perfect chance to attack that side of the field, bring Patterson in and use him and Harrison to link up, play both Calvert- Lewin and Betto and watch st Virgil flap, not knowing who to mark, get the ball out wide to both McNeil and Harrison and have a go at them.

Sadly I think Dyche will set up the same way he did against Arsenal and sooner or later we will crack.

A huge opportunity and one we could win, not said that for a while, but we really have a great chance, let’s hope the players and the manager thinks the same way and we have a damn good go.

We will never have a better chance, with our key players back fit.

Well done Wigan Warriors, over to you Everton.

The reason I don't worry about the derby is the shite exist in a different galaxy to us. Our "A" game is about a 6 out of 10 whilst theirs 9 out of 10, the game is as near a foregone conclusion as you can get. What's the point getting stressed about a known result?

It's not even mental — Everton players just aren't capable of competing against higher level opposition except when they don't show; and how often do Liverpool do that in big games?

Brian, Everton, will do the business this Saturday, and I sincerely hope so., we will do our best.

The last couple of weeks, take in the character of both sides and yesterday, at our old place, by Everton Ladies, fekk the RS.

UTFTs!

Rob, I'll probably be watching that clip from the Ballad of Dixie and Kenny daily in the build-up to the weekend!! It's on repeat on my YouTube!

That other link brought back happy memories of that day. We took over Wembley, just like we did against United in 2009 at the Semi-Final.

Thousands of Blues without tickets watching in the bars around Wembley just so they could be part of the occasion.

I'll say it again. Wait until we win something again (we will). Explosion.

On 1984, mingling with the Watford supporters before and after the match, seeing Everton lift a trophy for the first time in my life.

The following season League Champions with a then record 90 points. Then on to Rotterdam where our supporters were commended for their behaviour, unlike our satanic cousins a few weeks later. Enough said, no matter how much they try to airbrush history and avoid the subject.

I'm not making excuses for 30 years of neglect in the management of Everton, but they damaged English football and they damaged the opportunity of the top team in English football at the time (yes Everton) to go on to achieve further European glory. And we would have. There is no doubt in my mind. We were that good.

I can't forgive them for that and it changed my relationship with them.

Next weekend, we go to the stadium we had built and was our home from 1884 until we moved to Goodison.

I don't fear them. I never have. I never will. Do not fear them.

My best derby experiences have ironically been at that cesspit. Not just the victories I witnessed, but even when we lost. Sheedy sticking his finger up at the Kop. On that day, we knew and they knew, we were on our way to a second league title in 3 seasons having narrowly been runners up in the interim one.

So, for those will be there on Saturday and make the short trek (for most), be bold and stand up to the tourists. They will try to ridicule us because we bother them.

Look them in the eye. Stand loud. Stand proud.

Sorry. You're going to get a lot of this from me this week and I'll probably get worse!!

Paul (25), I was made up the girls won the game, missed most of the second half, went out with friends and had a great night made better by hearing the result when I got in.

Regarding the Terence Davies film, I’m reluctantly giving it a miss because it will cost me £30 to buy it, price of the film plus delivery charges, it must be a cracking film to cost that much!

I know, who cares but that is a damn good comeback by the Kazakhs. With a 30 yarder off the crosbar before they scored two late.