Silva: We didn't deserve to win

Garbage, just absolute garbage.

No shit Sherlock “we didn't deserve to win”. Absolutely priceless this fella.

Is it just me or do others keeping logging in to check if the sacking has happened yet?

But this is Everton so he will scrape a draw at Leicester to be embarrassed at our ex stadium with Siggy and Schneiderlin getting 90 minutes alongside Coleman and Tosser.

Another fraud managing OUR club
He doesn't give a shit because he's another who'll be rewarded with a fat pay check for abysmal failure

This failure was employed by us and apart from doing well in the Business House and Zingari leagues had achieved nothing

I really fear for OUR club with so many mercenaries operating within

Unsworth and the youngsters until the end of the season. The so called senior pros just binned and bollocks to them

A sad sad day for OUR club

This is Silva's most dangerous moment. Hopefully his last presser.

It's up to the manager to motivate and give confidence and Marco cant even motivate himself.

Pochettino Pochettino Pochettino Pochettino

Silva thinks we didn't deserve to win, I believe he doesn't deserve to continue as manager.

Moshiri should be doing all he can to protect his investment, do what's best for Everton and all Evertonions by trying as hard as he can to persuade Pochettino to join us.

I'm happy to wait until the end of the season if he wants a break or to identify another proven manager but Silva has failed and continues to fail us.

Mentally the squad need help, I don't recall us being linked with or using any sports psychology unlike other top teams. I'd say we need all the help we can get and whilst there's no guarantee and certainly no quick fix this is another area that Everton have failed in.

Afraid to play, look at the team he played, Schneiderlin, Sigurdsson, slow and pedestrian,1 striker Tosun, at home to the bottom team. Goodbye

Yeah, no shit Marco. We didn't deserve to watch that horrid starting XI you trotted out there so it would appear no one deserved anything today.

Glad I waited 2 weeks for this.

Marco
According to some on here you are the bees knees. The one to take us to the next level

Apparently you are just misunderstood by the support
It's not your fault, actually nothing is your fault.
VAR has cost us, but not other clubs
Injuries have cost us, other clubs don't have them do they?

You seem to spend hours on the training ground - from all accounts from people who know- you are unbelievably thorough in assessing your opponents and planning how to combat them. However, something happens in “moments” when it all goes to ratshit and all fails miserably

Marco could the simple answer to all our woes actually be you?

Marco could it possibly be that you are a fraud, a shyster an imposter best off selling used cars

Marco please do the honourable thing and resign. But why would you when you can go back to the Algarve with an extra few million. I'd do the same

Marco please piss off

If a team is afraid to play then they either don't know the game plan well enough or the manage has instilled the fear into them. Either case is never good and won't get the team into a winning mentality.

I'm conflicted as silva cannot stay but the next 4 games aren't great for any manager either existing or new. But something has to change.

We're almost back to where we were when Koeman was here. Which top manager is going to take a team from where we are?

Disappointed doesn't begin to explain it.

They don't know the game plan, or they don't like the game plan, or they don't want to know the fucking game plan because it leaves individuals isolated all over the pitch.

Everton a team without one-two's, especially through the middle of the pitch, Everton a team without players working in-pairs, never mind as a team, and Everton a team without pace, even though there are some very speedy players on the clubs books.

Oh and by the way
Just a note to those who think the ToffeeWebbers are not representative of the matchgoing blues
Let me assure you prematch, where I was, was incredulity in the starting 11
During the game there was as much derision as I sometimes see on the forum when we play away
After match, believe me, reading comments on here, was restrain compared to a couple of hostelries I stopped in on the way back

No, rest assured guys, the end of the road is now in touching distance
The fraudster will be gone soon - thank God!

We're going to bullshit our way to relegation if we're not careful. We're a club now built on a variety of lies, starting at the very top. How we love our fantasies.

Where is our truth?

#7 - I don't even think Pochettino would even pick up the phone to be honest with you Justin, what is there to gain for him walking into this mess?

500 million quid's worth of players and a tuppenny halfpenny manager. What could possibly go wrong? Being manager-less would be better than keeping Silva at the helm.

Barry, in addition to our manager, we should be looking to fire £300m worth of players, the ones Koeman & Walsh signed at 3x their actual value.

Poor managerial choices.

Poor player recruitment at ridiculously high costs.

We loved players under Moyes because he turned £2 million pound players into £10 million pound players.

Under this Moshiri regime we have paid ridiculously over the odds for virtually EVERY single signing and yes I include Jordan Pickford in that category also, no way a £30 million pound goalkeeper.

Players that have been signed all have arrived with “used goods reject” status over their heads, and they have all been governed by a manager with failure in the English game over his head.

This club is and has been a mess for some time, Marco Silva is one small dot on the bigger picture.

The losing mentality and lack of ambition that has run rife through our boardroom for years shows no signs at all of shifting.

There's no point anybody else but us the supporters. It's our fucking fault. We have put up with this shit for so long that any board we get or any player or manager we get will take us for a ride. When you expect mediocrity that's what you get if you are lucky. This club has been on a downward spiral for 30 odd years and WE have put up with it. Bullshit billy and all the boards since the 80s have played us for patsies and WE have allowed it.

Okay, Sean, I'm right behind you. We have allowed it. So, what next? Are you organizing a march?I will be there.It is OUR fault. You tell me how I can stop accepting mediocrity and will will fucking stop. Tell me how I should stop putting up with it and I will.

To get rid of Silva would just be mercy at this point. He is long past the point of no return.

I don't really believe in changing managers during the season as it cost too much in payouts for the club; however, Marco has had so many chances to get this expensive team playing to his type of style, yet failed to deliver consistent performances, week-in & week-out.

Silva talks a good game, which is more than his team can deliver. Time to sack him before it's too late; however, who should be the next manager???

The end. Chou, Chou, bye-bye.

Ralph @2, no it's not just you mate, I think most of us are looking for some good news amid this fog that has enveloped Everton for far too long.

No-one likes to see anyone lose their job, but in this case it is well justified. Like many have also mentioned he will walk away with more money for failing than most of us on here would see in a lifetime.

John Keating, don't beat about the bush say what you mean, get it all off your chest. :-)

For Christ's sake, Marco... take us down and put us out of this annual misery!!!

Norwich deserved to win, they where better prepared.

“This afternoon there were many, many moments where we didn't have the courage to make the right decisions.“

Starting with the supine team selection, having found or had a decent side forced upon him before the international break, he took a big step backwards to play the bottom-placed side at home. Sorry, Marco, you're increasingly the agent of your own destruction.

Sean @20,

We did and we were slagged off. Accused of being unEvertonian and kopite-like.

I'll cross-post this in case you miss it in the other thread.

Updated odds for the 3 teams who'll be looking for managers.

Arsenal:
Pochettino 6/4

West Ham:
Benitez 6/4

Everton:
Moyes 1/2

Draw your own conclusions from that.

By the time we play Burnley at home, we will be bottom of the Premier League.

I really believe the only way to get shut of this clown is if the club knows no-one is going to turn up for the Burnley game. No one!

Enough is enough. What's going on is fuckin' ridiculous. He should have been sacked tonight

Are you a fuckin loony, Kenwright, or a fuckin' kopite in disguise?

I would imagine the club have a barometer of what the general consensus is of the fans from the club's official Facebook post it made straight after the game. It's at around 1.7k comments and I haven't seen a single positive response in favour of keeping him.

If Brands hasn't got someone lined up to replace him, then he should go too. The job of an effective Director of Football is to have target players in mind, as well as potential managerial targets.

The problem is that, if we wait until after these next set of games against the best teams in the Premier League, we're going to be in need of a firefighting manager of the Fat Sam brand.

This season, we have lost to all promoted teams so far and deserved it. That tells us everything. Yes, the Director of Football goes with Silva if he is sacked. The recruitment has been poor but surely we should be beating Norwich at home? The players lack energy and desire. That comes from the manager.

At home with one striker up front against Norwich. A striker with little confidence and pace. Give him someone to work off. Are we not good enough to take the game to them? I'd rather watch us make chance after chance and lose than a deserved away win with no desire or threat. Mr Silva, you have not acted on previous defeats. Time for change, sadly.

Again we need an experienced manager to climb the league table and quickly. The fixtures in December couldn't be more difficult as all have form. Actually, as a manager coming in, you'd rather wait January to start. These fixtures could break a new manager. Nevertheless, a change must come now. Who? Let's go big. Get a league winner to get the club and fans excited going forward.

Kristian @32, I don't honestly see what this has to do with Brands. It's become readily apparent that he does not have the decision-making power we all thought he did. Moshiri still has to say yes, and it's equally apparent that Kenwright still has Moshiri's ear.

When Brands took over PSV, it took 4 years for them to rebound to where they believed they should be (challenging for the Eredivisie), and Brands went through 3 managers in those 4 years. He's not afraid of pulling the trigger, he's not being allowed to. All IMO of course.

Ian @33, not sure how you can say the recruitment has been poor. The problems on the pitch are not players Brands recruited.

Brands & Silva - Walsh & Koeman - who are these people, what are their qualifications to be trusted to spend millions wisely?
Why are our owners appointing people who are complete strangers, who know nothing about Everton.

They have cleared out all the so called dead wood, brought in loads of expensive replacements and we are worse than ever.

All we had to do three years ago is buy a good striker to replace Lukaku.

It's ridiculous, it's a nightmare, an absolute disgrace and Evertonians need to sort out a plan of action now. This situation is untenable.

We are going to get relegated because our club is run by lunatics,
Kenwright being the biggest.

Just watching BHA v Leicester on MOD. Why have we not had such a renaissance as Leicester?

Appoint Moyes and it is over!

Marco Silva and Unai Emery. The Chuckle Bothers. Listening to them both spout utter tosh is shocking all for millions a year. I can listen to 5 year olds who make more sense and would probably manage our club rather better.

To be honest he pretty much summer up the game I watched. You can call him a fraud (overused, been applied to every manager since Martinez, not even sure what exactly it's supposed to be getting at), a clown, etc but what he said there was accurate. The players lack confidence, the crowd is anxious, things don't go to plan and it's a negative feedback loop. Changing the team makeup makes little difference, almost nobody selected can be said to be playing well this season.

Are we actually playing th way Silva wants? I highly doubt it. I'm 100% certain that he wants the team to win and play good football. Likewise I'm certain the players want this also. I've no clue why many of you pour scorn on this idea; it's daft tbh. Can he fix it though? Unlikely. So if we haven't already we need to source a replacement, someone proven, because if not fired this weekend I don't see Silva lasting much longer.

Kevin #39

I hear what you're saying but Silva sets up the formation, tactics and players.

Why can't we play 2 up front?

Why keep playing Schneiderlin? (He doesn't not offer a screen in front of the back 4 and it was he who stopped running with his man and allowed Cantwell to score)

Why keep playing Walcott? The guy is spent and cannot perform well on a consistent basis

Why keep playing Tosun? He offers nothing. Absolutely nothing

Why not try 442?

Why not encourage movement off the ball?

Why not try a better central defensive partnership eg Lewis Gibson? (Holgate is rubbish)

Learn from the mistakes man!!!

It IS silva's fault

Out of all the discussions, all the posts, all the frustrated utterances, the idea that makes me laugh is that Marco Silva is incompetent.

Utter nonsense. This charlatan managed to inveigle his way into managing Everton Football Club, despite his abject failure at other clubs in the Premier League. He has managed to survive for almost a season and a half, despite his “philosophy” and his nonsensical ramblings. He has been paid a fortune for doing so, and will be paid a fortune to leave.

He is a smart guy, a child of his time, and has played an absolute blinder.

Nah, Peter, I don't see him as a charlatan. He's just a guy who is really bad at his job but honestly believes he's really good, and so when things go wrong he's certain it's somebody else's fault. We've all worked with them. Sometimes we even elect them President.

I literally don't know where to start.

Kase- Holgate is class. That is nonsense.

Marco- Why on earth do you continue picking the slowest and most immobile team possible. I have tried and tried to back him and re-back him and I simply can not anymore. How anyone can justify one up front against the bottom of the league is absolutely unforgivable. Sack him first thing and get straight on that blower, sorry Marco, I really tried but no more... no more

#40 Kase, to reiterate I'm certain he wants movement, quicker passing etc. Likely he sees that on the training pitch but on matchday it is not happening.

4-4-2: I hear this a lot but few teams play it due to concerns about being outmanned in midfield.

As for the individual player criticisms who is playing well? GS scored a lot of goals last season and his form is off but he's trying. Schneiderlin has to play as we have only 2 fit senior CMs. As per people shout for Baningame like he's a serious option. Tosun is trying. Walcott has been one of our better players recently and again, is trying hard. Now Holgate is the problem. Who's the answer - Keane? Or some unproven youngster? How about Kean, a player who's shown nothing so far in admittedly limited appearances and does not bust a gut like the players being selected ahead of him?

Kase @40 somehow you left Sigurdsson off your list. The single most glaring example of how shite we are.

Kevin @44 to continue this theme, Sigurdsson isn't "off form." EPL-caliber players aren't "off form" for 13 fckn games. He's not good and should drive the taxi that Silva will be on. I haven't seen him try since May 2019. At least he did have an assist today, I'll grant you that.

As for Moise, I'd like to know how you know he doesn't "bust a gut?" Surely you're not trusting Silva's decision to not use him as proof, or are you?

There's a Grand Canyon-sized problem at the Club, the manager is the first & primary one, but how anyone can defend a single Koeman/Walsh signing at this point is beyond my ability to comprehend.

Neil, if Mason Holgate is so good, how come no other clubs have come in for him or his name has never been thrown around the transfer rumours? He's a centre-half, 23 years old, and English. Those is primo transfer ingredients right there and sum total of transfer rumours about him is nil. He's certainly in our top two centre-halves at the club at the moment, but that isn't saying much at all.

Jim Wilson, which people who DO know anything about Everton would be qualified to be manager or director? We've had an iconic ex-player as first team coach for the past four-ish years and coincidentally have been a laughing stock of a team since his appointment. This whole "you have to know what Everton football club is about" is quite frankly tired nonsense. Everton have been shit for a generation, and football is totally different now to how it was in the 80s. Do Liverpool, City, Chelsea, or even Leicester keep to the same ethos that they always did?

I totally understand what you mean, but if the only people we trust are people connected to the club, then we've got a very shallow, unqualified bunch to choose from.

Roman - At one time Kevin Ratcliffe was on the transfer list and no one was interested in him. He became Everton captain, Wales captain, won 2 Championship medals, an FA Cup winners medal and a Cup Winners Cup medal
Holgate is a good player, who knows what might happen if we get a good manager.

Roman - to put words in my mouth is ridiculous
to blame The Dunc incredulous

The only conclusions I can come up with is Bill has watched Howard's way and is trying to do a Philip Carter and convince the rest of the board Silva will get it right.

If we are looking at Moyes then I am sure we would have sacked Silva and brought him in tonight, in giving Silva longer, that rules Moyes out for me, leaving my other conclusion that they are waiting for Rafa when the Chinese season ends next week.

Other than that, I am clueless why Silva is still in a job.

There's a touch of the Fuhrer bunker about all of this, everyone at the club is in denial about the Silva being a failure.

The Russians are here! They are the next six fixtures!

We should have sacked him six weeks ago, now we can't mount a defense, it too late we're surrounded!

Jim, do you think Duncan Ferguson is qualified to be coaching a Premier League club with designs on climbing the table?

As for Mason, he might be a good player for Everton right now, but, as I said, that isn't saying much. He, along with his 13 team mates last night, was dreadful against the worst ranked team in the league. Was he our worst player? Absolutely not. That award, if it must be someone on the field and not the manager, coaching staff and board, would be a toss-up between Pickford, Sidibe, or, sorry to say because he's been good lately, Davies.

Rob 50

Avoid the WWII analogies. Jamie Crowley tried that and everyone went mental

Like all Evertonians, I'm really not in a happy place right now, I'm not.

And if what I'm about to say isn't anyone elses cup-of-tea, well TBH I don't much care.

I saw My team manager betrayed today by his players. 10 yard passes straight to Norwich players. That's not bad coaching, it's crap play. It wasn't once, it was embarassingly frequent.

As a far younger Blue in My twenties I'd try and encourage others to cheer and to encourage our Royal Blue Jerseys, staying until the very last player was no longer in My sight.
Today, I fucked off on 90 minutes to catch a bus away that wasn't going to get caught up and sit waiting to get past Rice Lane flyover with Me brooding.

I wanted away from all that.

How dare those gutless twerps bespoil our beloved royal blue ?
How dare they ?

I never played at any decent level, but FFS I played My heart out for My mates and our rubbish team. Better teams could beast us, we NEVER EVER QUIT.

I actually feel pain for Marco Silva, he watched them capitulating nobheads too.

Not a single gram of common sense between them.

My man of the match ?
The bus driver on the 20 that rescued My sorry arse from County Road.
Thanks mate, much appreciated.

Now c'mon "David Moyes" ?

Why not Mike Walker ?

Roy Walker ?

Better still The Krankies ?

Shove Moyes up yer choccy starfish.

Alex, you lasted till the 90th minute!!!!! Fair play, I had enough when they scored.

Hi my fellow sufferers I live in Australia and got up early to watch this via Optus feeling very positive about the outcome, well halfway through the first half I was wishing my internet would drop out
What a load of shite, I really feel so sad for all my fellow Evertonians who pay week in and week out to watch this SHITE and to watch that fraud standing on the touch line with no idea no emotion and then for him to to come out with this gibberish is beyond belief. I cannot say anymore except sack him now not tomorrow not the next day Now

What a Buffon he is, not fit to drive the coach or wash the kit.

Team selection was poor, Scheiderlin too slow and sideways thinking , Sigurdsson is like a fish out of water - shouldnt be starting games, Tosun slow and ineffective, Walcott brings nothing to the team. No composure, no movement, no winning mentality, no leadership, no energy, poor team selections, systems and poor substitutions.

Yesterday was absolutely crying out for massive changes at half time, what was he thinking about starting the second half with more of the same. There is no coherent thought, no footballing nous or dynamic strategy. Losing his assistant Joao Pedro has been catastrophic for Silva. He is all at sea and it is not improving. It is getting worse.

He has got to go now, make no mistake, failure of the board to act now will see more of the same. The problems are not going away. Failure to act will see us in grave danger.

Peter 41 very wise words. He has profited handsomely from failure. The real problem at Everton as it has been for 30 years is leadership of the club from the bridge.

Ken, Peter.

It amazes me how a club could 'head hunt ' a manager with so many failures as Silva. His PL record leaves a lot to be desired. But we done it previously with El Bob, Koeman was on the up but there was concerns about him too!! Delve into his time in the Primeira and you'd know, it's all relative when hiring a manager in a multi million pound business, especially the way we promote us as the people's club.

As a club were, we should be ruthless with appointment. Unfortunately were not.

We've finished below the mighty power houses of Stoke, Burnley, Wolves, Southampton (twice), Swansea and Palace the last few seasons (with one blip, coming behind the sky (insert number) at a respectable 7th). If anyone is happy with that, you must be a board member.

Reading the line up for yesterday's game I think at least six out of ten Evertonians knew that Silva had picked, not for the first time, a team that wouldn't produce a victory,

Silva should have been dismissed weeks ago, something, again, that a good % of us thought.

As Peter Mills says, Silva is excellent at looking after himself, much less than average managing a football team.

I feel a real sense of despair at what is going on at Goodison Park, both on the field and in the boardroom, there doesn't seem to be a leader in both spheres and we are drifting slowly but relentlessly downwards. Silva will be replaced this week, he has to be, have we left it far too late?

He talks about players not taking the right decisions on the pitch, but his judgement and decision-making has been poor all season. Team selection, tactical set-up, ability to adapt to situations, defensive formations, substitutions have been poor.

He starts with Schneiderlin, Sigurddson, Walcott and Tosun in his usual formation, then complains about slow tempo, lack of intensity and mobility against a compact team. That is your fault you absolute fool - can you not see that your decisions are resulting in the performances you are getting? Every fan can see it, but the Silva still cannot. He might survive till next game, but he won't survive the month as he never learns from his mistakes. Please end it this week for his and our sake.

Why is he still in a job? Spurs fans moan about Levy all the time, I said to myself that if WE let a manager go, we'd be scrambling around for four to five weeks to find another inadequate candidate.

Peter #41 and Mike #42. Two brilliant posts that are spot on and really made me chuckle. (The only things going on with EFC at the moment to do so).

Thanks guys for rescuing me for a few seconds from the gloom and doom.

More shite spewed by this idiot. His inability to change formations or make glaring substitutions at the right time is what's killing this club.

I have been present at Goodison for most home games this term and watched every other game so far on TV.
In snatches, we have played some good stuff, overall we have been poor. Yesterday was abysmal. The fans have the scent of blood, it is likely head's will roll. I would not wish to be in Silva's shoes today.
This is not a case for his defence. As manager, he has to be accountable for team selection and a game plan. He has come up short in both areas thus far. It was not just about the defeat against Norwich, (a team incidentally who although are bottom, have beaten Manchester City), it was the manner of the defeat.
Like most people I am angered and frustrated by yesterday's diabolical performance. But after reading some of the hysterical vitriol being metered out on TW, mainly in the manager's direction, I'm trying to compose myself, take two steps back and analyse our problems. I am not a fan of Silva's methods. I am opposed to zonal marking. I believe his personality is not strong enough in terms of man management. Tactically I believe he is naive. Norwich played good football and were organised. They deserved their victory. Which brings me to my next point, the league table. Of all the teams I have seen so far this season, Norwich do not look like a bottom team. So for everyone screaming for blood on here, have a good look at the table. Apart from the top four teams, there is nothing in it. In terms of points, Everton are as close to the top six, as we are to relegation. We have only played 13 games. There is an awful long way to go. So, in terms of managers, apart from the top 4, statistically, the rest are much of a muchness. I am not a Silva fan, (who could be right now) but in fairness to the man, he has had appalling luck in terms of injuries to key players.
Brendan Rogers is working wonders at Leicester. His rejuvenation of them is what we expected of Silva. But if you look below the top 4, few managers have emerged with credit this season, unless you include the surprising fortunes of Sheffield Utd. Team placings shuffle dramatically in the space of two games. That is a fact. I am not in favour of drastically swapping managers by the minute. Certainly not at this stage of the season. We have a demanding fixture list approaching, I say let's see how Silva copes with it. Hopefully it will be a case of 'Cometh the hour cometh the man'. He can show to the fans that he is the man for the job by repeating the performances against the top sides, as we did, let us not forget, at the end of last season. People have short memories. It really is down to the commitment of the players. But how Silva motivates them is a measure of his ability. Great managers motivate.
Fans are fickle. It is fashionable to criticise Coleman of late. Yet when he came on yesterday he presented ideas potency and pace to the right flank, which had been woefully lacking and was one of the very few to come out of the game with any credit. I am appealing to the fans to get behind the team and get behind the manager, especially in the face of what is immediately ahead of us. Backs to the wall boys! Bring the big guns on, including the RS. This is a real test, yes, but take a good look at the league table, I repeat, there is nothing in it. Show some spirit E. F. C. Players, manager and fans alike. The time right now is for battle! Let's see what you're made of.

So Silva thinks that Everton were afraid to play, bet they wont be afraid to pick their wages up though for that terrible display, Silva will be at the front of that que as well getting his wages while every Evertonian at the game paid their wages to watch this shite.
Silva needs to go but so does the whole of the backroom staff that have been there through every manager since Moyes left, all the managers we have had cant all be that bad, so there has to be a link somewhere.
We don't need to just sack Silva we need a total clear out and maybe then these so called great players we sign will do better on the pitch.
We haven't played like a team for the past 3 seasons, we play like 11 individuals who have only just met, no one seems capable of stringing passes together like a premiership team should and pushing forward with intention, that's basic training isn't it. Silva shouldn't be in the job this morning and if he's still there through December then if we all feel embarrassed now what will we be feeling in January.

gutless performance, no leaders no fight no dignity just gutless

Jay#66
I couldn't agree more with your comments about the backroom staff. From players and coaches through to the boardroom there is a degenerate disease raging rampant within the club, which is seemingly immune to vaccination. It evades detection.

Silva is only the tip of the iceberg.

NBCSN just did their run-through of managerial news. Sorry, I can't remember his name but it is the English guy who always does the wrap-up of the news papers. He said that Kenwright wants Moyes back and that there is friction between the old and new board members.

As far as David Moyes I will just say this: NO ONE ELSE IS OFFERING HIM A JOB. He has not even been rumoured for another gig since his last car-crash effort a couple years ago.

Michael,
I can confirm that.

One of my friends is friends with Keith HArris who told him the board is the most dysfunctional he has ever worked with and he was glad to be out of there.

Moshirir was a fool for allowing Kenwright to stay on as chairman and appoint DBB as CEO.

That tells you all you need to know about why the club is a joke.

Alexander @53, you shouldn't have left early, mate. Sigurdsson made a brilliant 10-yard pass! To Srbeny.

Ok, I'll go now.

Mark, if you are referring to Sigurdsson's throughball to Srbeny for his goal, am sure it was more like 5 yards. Sigurdsson wouldn't have found his man with a 10 yard pass!

Ian, lol. Sorry, my depth perception isn't what it used to be.

Silva gone and all u23's been contacted and told not to attend finch farm tomorrow. Wtf going on there info direct off an u23

John 76, Rhino won't have time for them then tomorrow

That's interesting, John!

Really strange goings on. U23's shouldn't be effected with all this shite as there are enough staff to keep them occupied waiting for a call back off current Ist team player and also an ex player still employed... but seems strange, I can believe the u23's maybe being told not to come in but to say Silva gone maybe the kid putting 2 and 2 together

It seems Mr Silva can see the problems but it's equally obviously he doesn't have any answers.

John @76,

I've been told the same by a mate who plays in the Premier League and has been talking to Seamus: "Marco Silva will be gone tonight or at latest tomorrow" — and you're correct all U23s told to stay away tomorrow – Rhino taking over!!!

Silva sacked, Unsworth has heard the news that Moyes is in the building and has taken off with Silva

'We didn't deserve to win'!!!
That's the best Sherlock Holmes audition I've heard for a long time! 'No shit ' replied Doctor Watson!
Tata Marco.

Rhino taking over is better than Moyes coming in... hopefully he gets a chance after the terrible list of fixtures coming up... once again we lingered and waited and the special one went elsewhere fuck off kenwright you complete waste of space..

#45 Mark: here we go again. So Sigurdsson is not EPL calibre? I get you may not rate him but statements like that are just daft.

As for Kean, I've watched every minute he's played, hoping to see the Wonderkid burst onto the scene but so far just not happening. He looks lost and the not busting a gut thing is what I'm seeing. Compare and contrast to the much-maligned DCL who's always running, chasing lost causes and trying to get involved. Moise, after a bright couple of sub appearances is waiting for stuff to happen. I still have faith in him, because he was touted. However one season as a backup at a dominant, brilliant team like Juve chock-a-block with playmakers and attacking talent has not prepared him for life at Everton. If Kean was tearing it up in training, given our lack of punch up top he'd be starting.

Mark G don't you have a life, you seem to comment on everything even your own comments... makes for amusing reading though...

If it's true that blue Bill is arguing the corner for the ginger one then once again it shows us that we have a small minded out look and that makes us a small club (what a manager) that statement sums Bill

Get Peter Ried I'm sure he will kick some arse...

Moyes with Irvine doings the rounds in Formby

"Silva: We didn't deserve to win" because he picked a crap team. Tosun is not a striker or even a premier league player. Walcott is not a right winger, while best days some years ago were as a left wing striker with Arsenal. Richarlison is not a left winger would be best alongside DCL in a 4-4-2 to have a least 2 strikers up from. But Sigurdsson is yesterday's man because he is too slow and so is Schneiderlin, who can't pass a ball unless it is backwards or sideways. Davies is stranded in a very poor team so no comment.