Transfer Deadline Day

01/09/2022 409comments  |  Jump to last
Gueye & Garner done

The summer transfer window closed tonight with Everton making the two expected additions to their midfield but the club failed to augment its threadbare striking options.

The six-week saga surrounding Idrissa Gueye's return to the club from Paris Saint-Germain came to an end with the Senegal international undergoing the second part of a medical and signing a two-year contract with an option for a third year.

An official announcement of his acquisition from the Ligue 1 club for around £2m finally came this afternoon.

Meanwhile, James Garner was signed from Manchester United for a similar initial fee, although that deal could eventually top £15.5m once all appearance- and performance-related add-ons are triggered. He agreed a five-year deal with the club and arrived at Finch Farm late this afternoon to complete the formalities on his move from Old Trafford.

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Kevin Thelwell and Frank Lampard were hoping to add at least one more attacking player to the squad following the acquisition of Neal Maupay last week but couldn't get a deal over the line for any of their targets. 

The likes of Samuel Chukwueze of Villarreal and Joao Pedro of Watford were linked in the last 24 hours but Watford rejected an approach for the Brazilian and the door was closed on him leaving Vicarage Road this month.

A late-breaking claim from David Maddock of The Mirror had it that the Blues had narrowed their search down to Ben Brereton Diaz of Blackburn and Shamar Nicholson of Spartak Moscow but the latter was shut down pretty quickly. 

Talk linking Brereton Diaz to the Blues had died down and he was the subject of a rejected bid from Fulham earlier in the day. Everton entered the running late for the Chilean international but couldn't get anywhere near Blackburn's £20m valuation of a player who can sign a pre-contract agreement in January to leave Ewood Park for free.

Cody Gakpo from PSV Eindhoven was really only a viable Everton target had Anthony Gordon been sold to Chelsea and, in any case, his departure was ruled out.

Mohammed Kudus was a dead end with Ajax insisting that no one else would be leaving their club this window and an uncorroborated report in Portugal claimed that Porto have knocked back an opening bid of £10m for young striker Gonçalo Borges who they reportedly value at closer to £13m.

In terms of outgoings, André Gomes left Finch Farm around lunchtime to hold talks with Lille in France. The Portuguese had reportedly been informed he isn't in Frank Lampard's plans this season and he made a season-long loan move to the Ligue 1 club.

And Lewis Warrington joined Fleetwood Town on loan for the season.


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Kieran Kinsella
1 Posted 01/09/2022 at 00:17:03
Gueye was pictured earlier today flying to Merseyside yet he was also pictured yesterday doing the same. Is he coming by hot air balloon? Will they be able to tether him in time to meet the deadline?
Tony Hill
2 Posted 01/09/2022 at 00:34:02
It is obvious that, if we do not acquire extra goal threat, then we will flounder this season. I am also slightly concerned that we need to satisfy FFP.
Brian Murray
3 Posted 01/09/2022 at 00:39:59
It's disgusting Gomes and his agent, although informed he has no future here, are content to sit on this big daft wage. Where's his professional pride to play? No wonder people are going off the game.
Si Cooper
4 Posted 01/09/2022 at 00:50:57
I've nothing against more deals but I'm feeling a lot better than 2 weeks ago and won't be devastated if another untested striker isn't brought in by the deadline.

There are a few qualifiers. I am very hopeful that Calvert-Lewin will regain full fitness for the rest of the season; Maupay will be a decent performer for us; a properly physical, competitive and creative midfield will emerge from the various permutations of Doucouré, Onana, Gana, Garner, and Allan which will allow the likes of Iwobi, Gordon, O'Neill, and Gray to concentrate more on their attacking roles.

Our generally weak and ineffective midfield has been the biggest problem area for me since the time of Carsley and his peers. I'm hopeful that DOGGA constitute a renaissance in that department for us.

Colin Glassar
5 Posted 01/09/2022 at 01:06:14
Hopefully we’ll be sending more turkeys to Turkey before the day is out.
Si Cooper
6 Posted 01/09/2022 at 01:10:40
I don't think 'disgusting' is the right word, Brian, unless you are aware of what he has been offered elsewhere and it includes a better offer. He has a contract and is perfectly within his rights to see it out. No reason to uproot himself (and his family?) if it doesn't make them happy.

Do you apply those principles to every worker or just to Everton players you want to go?

Paul Kernot
7 Posted 01/09/2022 at 01:28:02
Colin #5.

I think the two that went to Turkey were great business and we can't expect more outs now at the 11th hour.

Meanwhile, the two mentioned above plus a decent striker and I'm far happier than I was. Hopeful of a mid-table finish this season even given the start we've made.

Kieran Kinsella
8 Posted 01/09/2022 at 01:35:28

What's the phrase? You are what you eat? Or you are where you play? 🦃

Kieran Kinsella
9 Posted 01/09/2022 at 01:40:54

I have to agree with Si. His agent's only interest is money as that's how he gets paid.

As for Gomes, if someone offered you five times your salary for a job, then deemed you weren't up to it, would you walk away if your career had a max shelf life of another 5 or 6 years?

David Gee
10 Posted 01/09/2022 at 01:41:49
Brian (@3), I agree with Si (@6),

It's not Gomes fault that he has the contract that he has. The club signed him, and if we chose not to play or include him in our squad, that is not his fault. I suspect that he would love to play but it also requires for someone to offer him a role at a salary he is prepared to accepted.

We may not like it, but he is within his rights as long as he makes himself available to play. It's a shame, as I had hoped he would be a mainstay of our midfield for years before his injury he was head and shoulders above the rest of the midfield in terms of ability.

Kieran Kinsella
11 Posted 01/09/2022 at 02:19:17
That being said if some Albanian gangsters kidnapped Gomes, would I tell Liam Neeson?

Probably not.

Julian Wait
12 Posted 01/09/2022 at 02:30:55
That bloody gold 24 in the header gives me the chills. At least this year we’ve always done good business, including January we’ve got a whole new back five, plus Onana, McNeil, Maupay … and Obi-Wan in CM is like a whole new signing. Much more suited than that Iwobi fella who used to play on the wing … plus the real emergence of Gordon and who knows, maybe we can even get something out of the rest we carry forward … consistency and obduracy perhaps… I’m almost hopeful again after last season’s traumas ….
Julian Wait
13 Posted 01/09/2022 at 02:32:27
That bloody gold 24 in the header gives me the chills.

At least this year we've always done good business, including January we've got a whole new back five, plus Onana, McNeil, Maupay … and Obi-Wan in CM is like a whole new signing. Much more suited than that Iwobi fella who used to play on the wing, plus the real emergence of Gordon.

Who knows, maybe we can even get something out of the rest we carry forward … consistency and obduracy perhaps. I'm almost hopeful again after last season's traumas.

Jay Harris
14 Posted 01/09/2022 at 04:05:52
I'm relatively pleased with the squad and how Frank's got them playing but a blind man can see there's not enough goals in this team even with Calvert-Lewin fit.

Let's hope this is addressed before the window closes

Jonathan Oppenheimer
15 Posted 01/09/2022 at 04:26:22
Jay #14 and others who will be going crazy if we don't bring in a striker by tomorrow, we do have enough goals if Calvert-Lewin is fit and firing, but that's a big if. If somehow he stays healthy, I'm in the mostly optimistic crowd right now.

Gueye gives us good shape and stability in the midfield, Gordon is pushed out to the wing, McNeil and Gray have less pressure on them, Iwobi and Onana (and Garner and Doucoure) will have more freedom.

We will have to stay positive if we can't nab a few wins before the World Cup break, but there's no question we're more fun to watch and seem to have more heart and promise and organization than last season [says the guy who missed watching the last two matches]. We also need time to gel as a team.

Kieran, I'm with you on letting Gomes slip off into the darkness, other than that we'd all be deprived of those striking good looks and that great head of hair. That's gotta count for something.

Also, he's good for at least one half of football at some point in February or March when the rest of our midfield is laid up with a typical Everton muscle injury.

I still wish we actually understood what our financial limits actually were and what FFP actually means. Here in America, despite our various confusing pay structures and limits in different sports, at least there's full transparency.

The Premier League requirements make little to no sense. If they did, at least getting angry on a fan site when we don't spend another £30 million would feel like an educated kind of anger.

Ernie Baywood
16 Posted 01/09/2022 at 05:06:05
I haven't been excited about a transfer window in a long time. And I'm still not.

I do think we've done decent business. But it's decent business for a relegation-threatened team trying to climb to mid-table.

Onana is the one who gives me a bit of hope. Could be terrible, could be amazing. At least it's hope.

Gueye (if it is done) is a known quantity. I'm very comfortable with him in the side.

Maupay appears a smart signing. We don't have anyone; he's someone. He'll annoy defenders and get the crowd into it. He'll do for now.

The two centre-backs we signed are about the level we need (and can get). I can't see the other guys getting a look in but they're decent enough reserves. I do have a slight doubt about Coady playing in a back 4 (and huge doubts about playing a back 5).

Generally we seem to have already plugged the gaping hole that ran through the spine of our team. Can we really afford to add more players?

John Keating
17 Posted 01/09/2022 at 05:42:57
Chukwueze, another winger at £38 million...

I don't understand that one?

Lester Yip
18 Posted 01/09/2022 at 05:43:12
I remember comments about Gomes was "Class", "Rolls-Royce" etc. He had unfortunately broken his leg and lost a yard or two.

With capable faster central midfielders around him, he might still have some role to play with the right set-up. If Iwobi can turn good, he might come good too.

Brian Murray
19 Posted 01/09/2022 at 05:44:23
I know Gomes is within his rights to sit back.

I'm just sick and tired of the idiots giving out these contracts. We are only just getting over Tosun, Sigurdsson and Delph. Looks like It's a thing of the past now with Thelwell – as long as he's left to do his job properly.

Phil (Kelsall) Roberts
20 Posted 01/09/2022 at 06:07:10
Yeah - like when we signed a guy for £45M as an attacking midfielder who scored 25 goals in 4 seasons, we should have known he would get involved in something which meant he would be interviewed by the Police and we would suspend him until it was cleared one way or the other.

Not sure I can really lay that one on Walsh and Koeman. The £45M maybe but not the sitting around.

Jim Bennings
21 Posted 01/09/2022 at 06:48:02
I tell you what though, what we'd do to possess a midfielder in our squad now that got 25 goals across 4 seasons.

Not that Sigurdsson was ever worth £45 million, he wasn't but you get my point.

I'm still concerned that, despite padding out the squad with some decent players, are we spending too much money on midfielders again that won't score more than 3 goals between them?

Outside Gordon, Gray and Maupay who'll probably combine to get a combined 18 to 20 if they have a good season and I do mean IF, then all we have is Calvert-Lewin and the hope he gets 9 or 10. (Again, that's perhaps a touch hopeful.)

So when you look at it, still looks well short of where we need to be.

It seems we have a phobia of signing attacking players.

Duncan McDine
22 Posted 01/09/2022 at 06:57:58
I'm with Brian regarding Gomes.

Different rules apply to footballers - they have a short career (another 5 0or years is half of a normal career!). If he was a proper player, he should want to play regular football and take a pay cut if necessary (he would still be a rich bastard), but we've all seen that he's anything but.

He's a half-arsed waste of space who never got up to speed with the Premier League.

Jack Convery
23 Posted 01/09/2022 at 07:02:28
16 hours to go, Mr Moshiri.

Gueye and Garner look to be done but where is the centre-forward we need?

I'm assuming that, because Rondon has been told he can leave, someone is lined up. However, I hope whoever it is doesn't have a change of heart at 10:59 tonight!!

Joe Digney
24 Posted 01/09/2022 at 07:02:56
Today's prediction:

Garner and Gueye announced around tea-time even though they've basically been signed since yesterday.

Last-minute scramble to get Broja on loan once Chelsea complete the Aubameyang deal late on, only for it not to come off so we end up with Hwang Hee Chan on loan from Wolves.

Day ends with Blue Bill announcing he worked so hard for the club and the supporters to keep Gordon and he's “like a new signing”.

Mike Gaynes
25 Posted 01/09/2022 at 07:24:46
Duncan #22, would you take a pay cut if you didn't have to?
Jim Bennings
26 Posted 01/09/2022 at 07:30:59
You'd surely think something would be in the offing for Broja on loan?

We need as many options that can possibly chip in with 7 or 8 goals as we can get.

Eddie Dunn
27 Posted 01/09/2022 at 07:39:54
The sort of player we need to sign is a reliable striker, not top drawer (which would be too expensive) but guys like Adams, Ings, or Ieanacho. We simply need 7 or 8 goals and some link-up play.

Maupay might be useful, but I wouldn't call him a target man, - we really need a chap to get on the end of things, that Maupay can play off.

Dominic Calvert-Lewin might find his mojo, if we are lucky, but last season, his return from his lay-off was hardly a fanfare and it was only after 5 or 6 games that he looked anything like that player of 18 months ago.

This team is looking tougher to beat, the work ethic is obvious and some of the forward play from Iwobi, Gordon and Gray is really crisp. We just have to find a striker.

Colin Glassar
28 Posted 01/09/2022 at 07:42:31
I thought we can’t do anymore domestic (Coady) loan deals? I might be wrong.
Andrew Ellams
29 Posted 01/09/2022 at 07:44:09
Mike @ 25,

If was still going to be earning millions and my career was heading towards the end, then most definitely.

You can't compare this with normal people whose quality of life is actually affected if their salary decreases.

Robert Tressell
30 Posted 01/09/2022 at 07:45:09
The striker situation is obviously the the thing we're all interested in.

I'm less bothered about Garner (we have numbers in midfield already) and Chukweuze (surely that's the position McNeil has been bought for).

But I think our collective anxiety about the striker situation is skewed by the fact we haven't yet seen Maupay. We have signed a striker. And Calvert-Lewin will be fit soon too.

If we do get a striker, he is likely to be third choice anyway.

Andrew Ellams
31 Posted 01/09/2022 at 07:54:02
Robert, I do think we are short of numbers out wide, especially with Townsend out until the New Year at least.

With only Gray, Gordon and McNeil we are one more injury away from having a problem.

Joe Digney
32 Posted 01/09/2022 at 07:54:34
Colin, pretty sure clubs get 2 domestic loans.
Duncan McDine
33 Posted 01/09/2022 at 07:55:19

Yes 100%… in fact, I've turned down opportunities to earn much more than I currently do, because it would've negatively affected my life/work balance.

Life isn't all about money, especially if (like Gomes) you're already rich. If you've been told that you're to rot in the reserves and never play another first-team game.

I'd be surprised if we can't at least shift him on loan today, but I bet we'll be paying at least half his wages (much like Dele).

Mick O'Malley
34 Posted 01/09/2022 at 07:56:37
Mike @25,

Yes, I would if I was already a multi-millionaire, where is his professional pride, I can't stand these greedy money-hungry bastards.

Mal van Schaick
35 Posted 01/09/2022 at 07:59:35
We have to be in a better position than last season, given that we have moved some crap on, and brought in better quality players. There are a few more I would like to see moving on and, if we strengthen in attack, it should bode well for a reasonable season.

As usual, I wish we would have done our most important business first in recruiting the goal scorers that we desperately need, instead of last again.

Ian Bennett
36 Posted 01/09/2022 at 08:00:24
Think the limit is two domestic loans, but only one from one club.

I still think we need another striker, as relying on Calvert-Lewin to find form or avoid breaking down will cost us if we don't.

Not convinced on Brereton Diaz from Blackburn. Reminds me of many Championship lads that can't make the step up. Rhodes, Murray, McCormack, Lee Hughes, Sylvan Ebanks Blake, Nick Maynard, Ellington etc.

All the above could score, but missed a physical attribute to really crack the big league against top defenders.

Gerry Quinn
37 Posted 01/09/2022 at 08:24:16
I was thinking that the big GOLD 24 at top of page was your predicted points total for this season, Lyndon, Michael!!!!!!! :)
Derek Knox
38 Posted 01/09/2022 at 08:26:00
Why is it when the Transfer Window has been gaping wide open for weeks, it is left to the Vinegar Stroke and any possible deals will probably be too late or just miss out ?

Kenwright Out!

Before anyone comes on to defend him, he still insists on getting his horrible fat greasy fingers involved in most potential transfers, in the belief that he is Mr Everton, the Cool Negotiator!

Needless to say, most end up pear-shaped!

Michael Lynch
39 Posted 01/09/2022 at 08:26:55
Mike @ 25 and others, I would absolutely definitely take a pay cut if it meant I got more job satisfaction, especially if I was still earning more in a year than most hard-working people earn in a life-time doing mind-numbing jobs.

I simply can't believe anyone on here would rather sit on their arse being utterly of no use to anyone, when they could be playing professional football at a high level. Imagine what that would do to your mental health and self-esteem?

Gomes has always come across as a really decent guy. Imagine how he will feel at the end of his career – sure he'll have £15M in the bank instead of £12M or something, but he won't have kicked a ball except on the training pitch. Madness.

Mike Allison
40 Posted 01/09/2022 at 08:29:33
We're not signing another striker so there's no point demanding that. We signed Maupay and Calvert-Lewin will recover fairly soon.

The closest we'll get is Brereton Diaz but he's been more successful playing from there left rather than as an out-and-out #9. However, even that one seems to have gone quiet.

I'd expect Gana, Garner and one more forward player. Probably Chukwueze on loan.

Sam Hoare
41 Posted 01/09/2022 at 08:38:24
If we just sign Garner and Gana today then the transfer window will have been ok. We will have strengthened defence a bit and midfield considerably but be a tad weaker in attack (Maupay is not as good as Richarlison).

To cap it off I'd like to see us buy a more explosive winger who will be a more steady source of goals/assists than Grey. I'd love Gakpo but that's not happening, I like Chukwueze (so long as the fee is not more than £30M) and I really like Joao Pedro who could play anywhere across front 3.

That leaves us with a very decent-looking squad for 4-3-3:

GK – Pickford, Begovic
RB – Patterson, Coleman
CB – Tarkowski, Mina, Godfrey
CB – Coady, Holgate, Keane
LB – Mykolenko, Vinagre
CM (#6) – Gana, Garner, Davies
CM (#8) – Iwobi, Allan, (Kudus?)
CM (#8) – Onana, Doucouré
LW – Gordon, Gray
ST – Calvert-Lewin, Maupay
RW – (Chukwueze?), McNeil, Townsend

I'd be pretty chuffed with that. Especially if Kudus could force a move too though that sounds unlikely.

Bobby Mallon
42 Posted 01/09/2022 at 08:47:41
Micheal @39, well said.
Bobby Mallon
43 Posted 01/09/2022 at 08:50:07
Robert 30.

Is Maupay a striker or attacking midfielder?

Mike Connolly
44 Posted 01/09/2022 at 08:50:59
You can't compare a footballer with the normal job principles. We all would stay in our jobs if the money was good. However, a footballer or entertainer gets a buzz playing in front of a live audience, that's why they go into that business.

Wasted years just sitting around waiting for your contract to expire may be regrettable when they look back. Nice money but you'll never get the chance of performing in front of big audience's again, and that why you became a footballer in the first place.

Andrew Clare
45 Posted 01/09/2022 at 09:00:53
If we are to sign any more players today it would be likely that the deals are already on the verge of completion. I wonder if we will get any surprises? A striker is essential.
Andrew Ellams
46 Posted 01/09/2022 at 09:02:37
Chelsea have bid for Edson Alvarez from Ajax which I guess makes our chances of landing Kudus even more unlikely now.
Steve Shave
47 Posted 01/09/2022 at 09:09:42
Linked again with Pedro from Watford. I would be delighted with that. He can play anywhere across the forward line, still raw but one for us to develop across the season. I am surprised we are getting Garner as well as Gueye but hey I will be chuffed if we do, hopefully not at the expense of a forward. So Garner, Gueye and Pedro announced today with Gomes and Allan shipping out on loan (hopefully though Allan at least could attract a decent loan fee?) then I would be utterly over the moon with this window.
Colin Glassar
48 Posted 01/09/2022 at 09:15:10
We are on the verge of signing some fella called Verge by some accounts. We’ve been linked to him for weeks now.
Rob Jones
50 Posted 01/09/2022 at 09:24:24
Andre Gomes was a signing that delighted everybody when he initially came. He played well, and dominating a derby at Anfield, up until Jordan Pickford threw it away.

He was then cut down at his peak by that shithouse Son, who somehow, by dint of crying (and playing for a "big" club), received more sympathy than our player. Andre has never been what he was since that day, losing confidence and whatever pace he had.

He is reportedly on £140k a week. He will never get another wage that comes close to that deal.

There are some people criticising the guy for refusing to leave, when a) we don't even know if he's been asked to, and b) we don't know if he has any offers on the table.

Would you give up that kind of money, when you know you'll never come near that kind of deal again?

Blame the club, not Andre.

Brian Murray
51 Posted 01/09/2022 at 09:27:50
Keep hearing the dutch league is the equivalent of scotlands so why are the likes of chelsea man u and maybe us after their players.
Stu Darlington
52 Posted 01/09/2022 at 09:34:34
We need a striker today to join DCL and Maupay as we will inevitably have some injuries and need cover.
We cannot rely on “ false 9’s” from midfield for long.
Even Manchester City with all their talented midfielders look a different proposition with a beast of a striker in Haaland scoring goals at will.
And Lampard is no Guardiola.
Also a successful Premier League team needs a strong bench,not composed of youth team players and goalkeepers.
Getting rid of Rondon makes me think that we have someone in mind,just hope it’s a considered choice and not Rondon mk2!
Jim Bennings
53 Posted 01/09/2022 at 09:34:36
This bloody Gana thing is dragging on isn't it?

Some medical this he's having.

James Marshall
54 Posted 01/09/2022 at 09:36:58
About 8 years years ago I had a big climbing accident, well a falling one really, actually no, the climbing and the falling parts were fine, it was the landing bit that turned my left foot upside down and shattered my ankle. Broken in about 12-24 places (they couldn't really tell how many as the X-rays & scans were a mess) and snapped 3 ligaments.

Why am I mentioning this? Well Andre Gomes did a similar thing, albeit on a football field, and I can assure you the ongoing issues that result from a big injury like that go well beyond the physical. Mentally it's a major struggle, and you never fully recover and you definitely lose the ability to perform at the level you did before. I still climb but I don't have the same amount of 'bottle' I used to have and think twice before trying certain moves. Same goes for Gomes (and yeah, I'm sticking up for him here).

Yeah he gets handsomely paid for his job, but it does go a very long way to explaining why he's never been the same player since. It really isn't his fault and to suggest he should take a pay cut for some bizarre reason is madness. Injury is part of the game - you don't discard human beings who get horribly injured in the line of duty - you back them and support them. I would have been fucked without support from my employer taxiing me to work and back for weeks on end and helping me do my job on a daily basis.

People's club my arse.

Colin Glassar
55 Posted 01/09/2022 at 09:37:04
Rob, I agree. Unless they terminate his contract he will sit it out until it’s over and who can blame him? Many moons ago, Bogaarde at Chelsea showed the way. He warmed the bench for 3-4 seasons before disappearing from football forever. Cudicini, another Chelsea player did the same thing. These guys had offers from other clubs but they preferred the bright lights of London, and huge wages, to playing regular football.

Gomes did come with a warning from Barca fans though. He was known as someone who would start the season well then taper off after a few games. A talented but lazy(?) player.

Steve Shave
56 Posted 01/09/2022 at 09:47:19
James 54 well said that man. So many of our lot are toxic towards almost anyone who isn't consistently performing well for our side. Players aren't allowed injuries, they certainly aren't allowed mental health problems.

I have unashamedly stood up for Gomes throughout, he was my favourite player in his first few seasons and he can still play despite the bad injury. Unfortunately as you rightly point out James, the nature of the injury just means that he is not up to the rigours of the PL anymore. I feel for him, we know from his time at Barca that he struggles with confidence and mental health. That nasty shit-house Son has alot to answer for.

I hope for Andre that Benfica or Sporting come in for him and we just pay a wedge of his remaining contract. I hope in a slower league he regains some form and confidence and is happy with his football. A good lad and undeserving of the abuse he gets from some.

Dave Abrahams
57 Posted 01/09/2022 at 09:47:53
Another striker is essential,get him in then Everton have done quite well in this transfer window, could have been better but restricted,I think but nobody seems to know, by the FFP rules. Future transfer windows should leave us in a better state to negotiate deals.

Gomes wasn’t very good before his injury and just as slow and weak after it. I understand why he won’t move, rich greedy people always want more,Everton, if they can’t negotiate a pay off deal with him should play him in the U21’s team as an over age player every game. He’s entitled to carry on with the contract he signed and play where and when he is told, Frank will have learned from the Crystal Palace game, how he picked him to play in that game was one huge mistake, one of the ball boys must have told Frank to get him off at half time, most fans in the crowd and everywhere else in the world knew it was a giant cock up.

Brian Murray
58 Posted 01/09/2022 at 09:51:28
That old chestnut it’s a short career wore very thin as soon as the premier league started. Contrast that to this winter and people really struggling to stay warm never mind eat. They are in a different world.
Colin Glassar
59 Posted 01/09/2022 at 09:52:36
Phil McNulty is predicting either Joa Pedro or Brereton-Diaz will be our targets for today. Gana and Garner done deal.
Michael Lynch
60 Posted 01/09/2022 at 09:54:44
James, I'm sorry, I don't really understand what you're saying about Gomes. Are you saying he is incapable of playing because of his injury and therefore should sit out his contract on full pay?

What I'm saying is that, if I was capable of playing football, I would play football. If that meant going to a club on a lower salary I would do that, not that I would accept a pay cut from my current employer because I'd been injured. Is anyone actually suggesting he should do that?

Brian Harrison
61 Posted 01/09/2022 at 09:56:59
So we are in the last few hours of the transfer window and for me we still seem very light in our main striker role. We have Rondon who Lampard is reluctant to play even prefers wingers in his position, DCL coming back from yet another injury and no guarantee that he will stay injury free, and we have signed Neal Maupay who was on his way to Fulham till our last minute intervention, which says to me this wasn't a player on Lampards list. So when you compare our striker options to our CB position its like chalk and cheese, we have 6 CBs all with many games for the club under their belts, so not like they are untried youngsters, and we have sent the only young CB on loan, just like we have with all the young strikers at the club. How anybody can make any sense of that I have no idea.

Those criticizing Gomes and Allan for not looking for moves away, why on earth would they do that, Gomes is reportedly on £140,000 per week no other club will pay him that. So he will stay till the last day of his contract, and then be in a strong position when negotiating with another club. Same for Allan who I cant understand why Lampard has turned his back on our best defensive midfield player. He has 6 months left on his contract, so in Jan he can negotiate with a new club and no doubt will demand a high signing on fee. Those who are saying Thelwell has changed that culture, really then why has Mcneil been given a 5 year contract, why not the normal 2 or 3 year contract then if it goes well renegotiate the extra years. Where if it goes pear shaped like it has with Gomes and Allan he too will see out his very lucrative contract.

James Marshall
62 Posted 01/09/2022 at 09:57:46
So the next time one of our players picks up a horrific, career threatening injury - the type of injury that some years ago could well have left them unable to walk properly for the rest of their lives, we should all abandon them and tell them to either take a pay cut, or leave the club because they're rich greedy bastards?

Have I got this right? OK good, at least now I understand where some of you are coming from. Nice one.

How dare they get paid all that lovely money - that money that means you get to stare into every aspect of their lives, watch every game they play in all its shiny glory on every TV channel all over the world any time you like. How dare they. It's entirely the players fault and has nothing to do with our ravenous consumption of sports.

Maybe we should take all the money away, and go back to listening to it on the radio, with an hour long episode of Match of the Day in black & white on a shitty telly you have to rig up a coat hanger to be able to watch. Yeah that would be great wouldn't it.

James Marshall
63 Posted 01/09/2022 at 10:00:01

He sits on the bench because he doesn't get picked - because his injury destroyed him as a player (in my view). You & I don't get to choose who takes a pay cut and leaves - I certainly never considered such a thing when I was similarly injured in order to complete a role to the best of my ability.

Call me selfish, I've been called worse.

Andrew Ellams
64 Posted 01/09/2022 at 10:05:05
James, he's been told he's no longer part of the manager's plans which is perfectly normal in football.

He's played plenty of games since his injury so the club has not left him in the lurch in any way at all.

Dave Williams
65 Posted 01/09/2022 at 10:05:39
The figures are huge but football is their job and they sign a contract for better or worse. I see no reason why, having signed a contract in good faith, a player should give up his entitlement because of an injury.
A ridiculous argument!
Mark Ryan
66 Posted 01/09/2022 at 10:10:29
Interesting comments from AM at Finch Farm. Suggested that the players on the bench were perhaps not used against Leeds to protect certain players from injury in case someone comes in for them. Names that were mentioned were Allan and Gomes. An interesting take on the non use of the bench ?
Robert Williams
67 Posted 01/09/2022 at 10:12:17
Don't know about the rest of you but my head is spinning with all these names being mentioned as prospective Everton players. Our DoF has done a great job since coming on board and however he brings in or takes out can only improve the overall team. Let's hope that our results reflect his ambition.
Nick Page
68 Posted 01/09/2022 at 10:13:12
Have we announced any signings yet FFS or are we waiting for the PL deadline to pass so they can’t play against the Satan worshippers on Saturday?

Get a move on

Michael Lynch
69 Posted 01/09/2022 at 10:14:03
Nobody is saying he should give up his "entitlement". I'm saying that if I was on gardening leave from a job that I loved, and was good at, and had a limited number of years in that career - a career in which I had the potential to achieve things that most people only dream of, and had the opportunity to pursue that career at a slightly lower level and for slightly less money - which would still be millions of pounds a year - I'd take it.

If the choice was to sit at home doing fuck all on full pay, I'd leave, unless I put money above doing the job I loved. Of course, it's entirely his right to take the money and sit on his arse. It's just an incredible waste of a life.

Brian Harrison
70 Posted 01/09/2022 at 10:14:17
Dave #57,

I was listening to a top football agent a few years back and he said that most players have it in their contracts that they only play first team football, mad why clubs agree to this. So that's why we don't see players coming back from injury don't play any U23 games to get match fit,

I know Seamus did but because we picked him up for £60,000 he didn't have that in his contract and probably still hasn't and that's why he played in the U23s the other week.

Dave, you and I are of an age when players who were out of form were dropped to the reserve team to get their form and confidence back, as well as it being good for the young players to play with seasoned professionals.

But players have all the power now, I wonder if this is what Jimmy Hill and George Eastham envisaged this would happen when they led the campaign to scrap the £20 per week maximum wage.

James Marshall
71 Posted 01/09/2022 at 10:14:41

Has he been told that? He was on the bench the other night.

Anyway, I never said the club has left him in the lurch, I've said the exact opposite. It's the fans who want to discard players that I'm irked by, not the club.

Sean Roe
73 Posted 01/09/2022 at 10:22:43
We've only got one more game at the weekend before we face one of the big clubs the week after. I hope all our new signings are ready to hit the ground running.
Rob Jones
74 Posted 01/09/2022 at 10:23:47
James, I wholeheartedly agree.

André has never shirked, never refused to train (I saw some fans on here applauding Kudus for doing just that), never spoken ill of the club or any managers.

As you say, it's staggering how quickly so many of our own fans spend their time bitching about our own players.

Rob Jones
75 Posted 01/09/2022 at 10:27:28
To be honest, I'm more pissed off at the fact that the club is a leaky sieve.

They're completely unable to keep any of the negotiations or deals under wraps, leading to speculation and concern. It feels like so many other clubs in the Premier League get their business done quickly and quietly, rather than allowing it to be dragged out, making us look like mugs.

James Garner was supposed to be a done deal. Why isn't he training with the rest of the players today, contract signed?

Idrissa Gueye was first referenced months ago, and repeatedly we have been told that the deal is imminent.

It makes us look like a rinky-dink small-time operation.

Pete Clarke
76 Posted 01/09/2022 at 10:28:39
Many years ago, when we had the chance to sign Steve McMannaman, it was his Dad who was deciding on his future.

Everton could only offer him a 1 year contract because of his age at the time ( typical Everton ) but Liverpool were prepared to offer him 3 years.

His Dad, against his will since they were all Blues told Everton that if we could not match Liverpool's offer then he had to think of the boy's future and if Steve were to suffer a bad injury then at least he had more cover with Liverpool to look after him financially.

A player's career is only short and, as much as it disgusts me with the amount of money they get, it is justifiable in some way given the length of their careers.

Peter Carpenter
77 Posted 01/09/2022 at 10:29:00
You're right, James, well put.

But I'll take MotD in black and white along with Sam Leitch's lunchtime football preview. The added advantage – no Shearer, Murphy, Warnock or any of the other dimwits talking shit and telling us what we already know.

Rob Dolby
78 Posted 01/09/2022 at 10:29:24
Gomes and Allan are riding their contracts out. I don't blame for doing it. They can't have the drive and enthusiasm for football that they once had.

The lesson is; don't buy washed-up older players from so-called bigger clubs. We are seen as a step-down and pension pot-filler.

Besides the glaringly obvious lack of strikers, I think we have done well in the window this time around but goals win games and this will bite Lampard on the arse in a similar way it did for Silva when he didn't replace Zouma or Gana.

It's a results business and, without strength and depth up top, we will struggle, no matter who is playing in midfield.

Jim Lloyd
79 Posted 01/09/2022 at 10:31:11
Regarding the Gomes situation. If he should decide to listen to those who say "Go and play somewhere else, or youi'll regret it" I'd think he hopes that he can still do a job for Everton.

He is still in the first-team squad and he'll have settled down here with his family. I saw him in New Brighton the other week with his kids, he looked happy enough to me.

The other point is, "Who'd take him?" if we don't rate him as good enough for our team. It's his decision to make, and how do any of us know how we would react, so I wouldn't blame him for staying.

As for the players who might come in, I remember Brian and Don telling me why we need a striker, and I was convinced we could make do without one. My thoughts were that it's up top the whole team to score goals (except the Goalie, maybe!)

But they are right. We need a man who can score around 20 a season. The last one we had who could do that regularly was shipped off to Man UTD for £80-odd million.

If you look at our goals for and our goals against, each season since he's left, no wonder we're down with the other strugglers. The figures are awful.

So this one man would make all the difference, if we can find him, a man who can score around 15, and equally, make chances for other attackers.

Tony Everan
80 Posted 01/09/2022 at 10:37:35
Can I ask our scouts, Chuckwueze, Joao Pedro, Brereton Diaz ??

Out of the three, who do you think we should be targeting? £39M for Chuckwueze seems a hell of a lot looking at his more recent stats, the little that I have seen of him doesn't make me desperate for us to sign him.

Diaz or Joao Pedro a better bet ?

Also, I think we are even now still looking at what's happening with Aubameyang going to Chelsea. With a view to getting Broja in on loan or loan to buy.

Andrew Ellams
81 Posted 01/09/2022 at 10:40:24

He was on the bench because Gana and Garner hadn't signed yet and Doucouré is injured.

He's currently behind Onana, Gana*, Garner*, Iwobi, Davies and Doucouré, at least in the pecking order, his time is done.

Professional pride at least should convince him to move on.

James Marshall
82 Posted 01/09/2022 at 10:42:48
Everton are looking to hire a new first team physical performance coach. Job listing on @ground_guru says role would focus on “planning and delivering the strength, conditioning and rehabilitation for all first-team players.”

I'm sure there are plenty of experts on here ready made for this role!

CV's at the ready everyone.

Ciarán McGlone
83 Posted 01/09/2022 at 10:43:55
How do you know anybody is even in for Gomes?

He's not the littlest Hobo Like..

Brian Murray
84 Posted 01/09/2022 at 10:45:28

Is that another way of putting it that we get twice as many injuries to everyone else and why the fuck is that? At least they are addressing it and dare say being professional.

Dave Abrahams
85 Posted 01/09/2022 at 10:45:41
James (various),

I understand your sympathy for Gomes but the way you describe your injury, it was far worse than the one Gomes suffered. He was back playing quickly after the injury, and he looked no different in speed and thought, to me, than he was before the Spurs game.

He was still putting those snide tackles in and giving free-kicks away in dangerous positions, out of position and too lazy to get back. He certainly can't be blamed for being not good enough to be picked now. He could have a bit of class and be embarrassed about picking up these vast wages. To me, he's no better than a bum sponging drinks off his mates.

Rob (74),

You are praising a man for never shirking and not refusing to train, never speaking ill of the club or the managers... Why the fuck would he when he is picking up a lottery winning sum every week for doing nothing?

James Marshall
86 Posted 01/09/2022 at 10:47:35

What about his home life? His partner? Family? Living situation etc? Does any of that ever enter into your considerations around footballers, or do you see them simply as exactly that, footballers?

I don't get why fans think they have the right to dictate to other human beings what they do with their lives based purely on what they do (or don't do) for 90 minutes (or less) on a football field. It's just weird thinking.

"Okay, André you don't play as much as you should so uproot your family, sell your house, go find another place to live on the planet because at the moment I don't like you sitting on the bench all the time."

When players agitate for moves, they get laid into for being a 'problem'. When they don't get picked, they're lazy and greedy. I don't really get it. This isn't Football Manager 2022.

Nick Page
87 Posted 01/09/2022 at 10:48:46
“It makes us look like a rinky-dink small-time operation.”

Reality setting in there, finally?

James Marshall
88 Posted 01/09/2022 at 10:49:53
I'm going to shut up about the Gomes thing now anyway – I clearly have too much time and too much Covid on my hands right now!

Apologies for any ranty shite.

Have we signed anyone?

Tony Abrahams
89 Posted 01/09/2022 at 10:53:35
I think we've got to get a few of these shirkers out the door first!
Lee Robinson
90 Posted 01/09/2022 at 10:54:40
If we get Gana and Garner confirmed with Joao Pedro and Broja, that would be dreamland and give us a complete squad to have a go this season. The latter two unlikely but even if we can get similar positions it will give us cover in all positions.
Steavey Buckley
91 Posted 01/09/2022 at 10:54:58
Finding capable strikers right up until the last moment has had a destabilising effect on the Everton season so far. Yet, Everton go into one of the most important games against Liverpool without a win, and not looking like they will get one. A draw is about the most Everton fans can wish for.
Andrew Ellams
92 Posted 01/09/2022 at 10:57:10

The key issue is we don't have Man City's or Chelsea's bucket for countless wages. We are a club that needs to shift £100k pw players on if they're not an integral part of the squad.

Dave Abrahams
93 Posted 01/09/2022 at 11:01:58
Brian (70), yes I thought about that, players not being picked for the U21’s because it is in their contracts as senior players, having their cake and eating it!!

Brian I think even Jimmy Hill and George Eastham never imagined the obscene wages players and their agents are negotiating and receiving today, once upon a time players were treated like slaves now they are acting like slave masters, poachers turned game keepers.

James Marshall
94 Posted 01/09/2022 at 11:03:54
Andrew - sure, that's true,,,

But you can't just terminate players contracts or force them out, especially when he's on the bench every week when fit! If you start doing that you're going to cause disharmony in the ranks, which is about squad balancing (as Lampard puts it).

Anyway, shall we move on now?

I'm starting to wonder about the possibilities of songs to the tune of Club Tropicana that involve Gana, Garner and Onana.

Jim Harrison
95 Posted 01/09/2022 at 11:09:57
Gomes was a good player. Sam ruined him. He had a couple of flurries in the past two seasons but now ultimately looks too slow.

No one else will pay him what he is on. I wish he could find a club in a league that suits him, but who would walk away from job security?

We need another striker. Two isn't enough. Calvert-Lewin hasn't touched the pitch this season so, until he actually makes it on and scores a goal, he doesn't count for me.

Colin Glassar
96 Posted 01/09/2022 at 11:36:29
Looks like we might’ve given up on any Chelsea players this window. So no Gilmour, Broja or Gallagher. Live forum is up.
Brian Harrison
97 Posted 01/09/2022 at 11:51:47
Colin #96,

Maybe with Chelsea about to add Aubamayang to their squad, I wonder if Broja wants to sit on the bench all season.

Although maybe us not selling Gordon to them on the cheap may as you say have scuppered any Chelsea players ending up on loan at Goodison.

Brian Murray
98 Posted 01/09/2022 at 11:53:32
Tom Cannon, despite his age, can't be allowed to go out on loan until we have at least one other forward in. Already jumped the gun with Simms which left us with a nothing striker in Rondon
Pat Kelly
99 Posted 01/09/2022 at 11:56:38
Currently being linked (I know) with Dan James at Leeds. Hopefully, just the usual paper talk. I don't rate him and we don't need him anyway.
Tony Everan
100 Posted 01/09/2022 at 12:01:59
Brian, Colin,

I've been thinking for a while that they are waiting to get Aubameyang in before allowing Broja to go out on loan. Frank will be on he phone asking for Broja on a loan-to-buy deal. Chelsea may be positive about it as they will see it as a foot in the door to signing Gordon in the future.

Things to consider, do we go for a loan-only deal if that's all they offer? Also he will want some guaranteed game time and will have other options that offer it , can Frank give that assurance?

David Graves
101 Posted 01/09/2022 at 12:06:42
I met a guy who works at Blackburn Rovers over the weekend so obviously asked him about whether Brereton Diaz was on his way to Everton. Unfortunately his response wasn't encouraging!

He said that Everton needed to sort out their internal issues around who was making decisions on transfers first. His information was that Diaz was keen to move and that Blackburn would sell but that dealing with Everton was difficult with several people involved in negotiations and communications.

He may well have been winding me up and he actually works in the club shop but he sounded convincing!

Colin Glassar
102 Posted 01/09/2022 at 12:14:35
Tony, seeing that all the Abramovitch mob has left Chelsea, do you think Frank has any real contacts left? Buck, Marina, Cech etc… they've all gone.

David, did he offer you David Bentley or Damian Duff instead?

David Graves
103 Posted 01/09/2022 at 12:21:29

No but he said that they've got a player-manager we may be interested in.

Initials: HK.

Colin Glassar
104 Posted 01/09/2022 at 12:23:32
Billy Boy would love Howard Kendall and Dave Hickson to come back.
Christy Ring
105 Posted 01/09/2022 at 12:26:15
I think some lads need to get real, personal pride doesn't come into it if your on £120k, and joining a new club for maybe half that, when he's a free agent next summer. I still believe Gomes is effective in a 3 man midfield.

It seems we just bid £30M for Pedro,and Watford won't sell this late in the window. Could we not have bid earlier in the window?

Phil Bickerstaff
106 Posted 01/09/2022 at 12:28:22
If it wasn't for that dirty Spurs tosser, Gomes would still be playing good football and a regular in the team. Nothing is said about that...

Perhaps spurs should take him on loan.

Sam Hoare
107 Posted 01/09/2022 at 12:29:55
Sounds like Pedro and Chukwueze are unlikely at this point.

I reckon we’ll have another punt at Broja once Aubameyang completes and wouldn’t be surprised to see a younger player we’ve not heard much of bought in last minute.

Andy Meighan
108 Posted 01/09/2022 at 13:05:46
It annoys me when people on here defend footballers for not budging when they're not part of the manager's long-term plans.

If Gomes had anything about him he'd be badgering his agent constantly for a move. No, not the likes of him, he can sit on his arse and happily pick up his wedge and not have to worry about another thing.

Any footballer at no matter what level wants to play or at least be involved. I'll bet Richarlison is fuming about being on the bench every league game for Spurs, as he's got a hunger about him.

The likes of Gomes should be busting a gut in training to try and force Frank's hand.trLook at Iwobi I've never seen a transformation in a player like him since I've been going, he's the first name on the sheet.

I'll bet Frank and his staff have took a good look at the likes of Gomes and Co and thought no, sorry not for me. He's slowly but surely weeding all the crap out.

4 seasons Frank it's a long haul but I and quite a few others I know have said the same. As I was typing this got a message saying that Kudus has got a medical booked for today. Young hungry players, isn't that what we've been crying out for?

Craig Walker
109 Posted 01/09/2022 at 13:12:51
So far, so Everton. Targets being dismissed as unlikely and now getting linked with cast-offs.

We urgently need a striker. Get it done! Why do we always end up hoping on the last day?

Bill Gall
110 Posted 01/09/2022 at 13:24:39
Richarlison must have known he would not be a regular starter and this will not help his World Cup chances
Colin Malone
111 Posted 01/09/2022 at 13:32:10
Leicester Cannot bring in players because of the FFP rules.
Can anyone educate me on were we are at with FFP situation?
Colin Glassar
112 Posted 01/09/2022 at 13:32:25
Andy, don’t know if it’s true but hasn’t kudos gone on strike to force a move? If so, he’s just as bad (character) imo as a players who’s happy to sit on the bench.

Guardiola is right when he says he judges a players character before signing them as he already knows about their talent.

Pat Kelly
113 Posted 01/09/2022 at 13:36:18
Colin #111 the following should clarify where we're at in relation to FFP :

Dwight MC Neil

Neal Maupay

James Garner

Robert Williams
114 Posted 01/09/2022 at 13:39:34
PK 72 Riqueleme bid?
Requiem more like Everton, don't you think?
Lee Robinson
115 Posted 01/09/2022 at 13:43:18
Dissapointed it looks like we aren't getting a number 9. Guirassy would have been my choice to back up DCL, I worry about the amount of goals in the side. The rest I am happy with.
Peter Carpenter
116 Posted 01/09/2022 at 13:45:06
Just went past BMD. It's beginning to look like a football stadium. Got a shiver up my spine.
Tony Everan
117 Posted 01/09/2022 at 13:48:33
A “ usually reliable source “ says this is the James Garner deal.

“James Garner move to Everton now agreed. Initial 9m rising to 15.5m with add-ons.

Includes sell-on clause. No buyback”

Very pleased with that if it’s true, the buy back part doesn’t sit well. It’s like a glorified loan deal where the player has one eye on the parent club and we can never fully commit long term . No good for any of the parties.

Jack Convery
118 Posted 01/09/2022 at 14:03:57
9 hours until Judgement is passed.

Has Gueye signed yet ??

Colin Glassar
119 Posted 01/09/2022 at 14:11:52
He’s on the verge, Jack.
Jim Lloyd
120 Posted 01/09/2022 at 14:25:53
David (101) Sounds like the usual EFC, sounds like Kenwright.
Soren Moyer
121 Posted 01/09/2022 at 14:27:47
We need a striker NOW!!
Jack Convery
122 Posted 01/09/2022 at 14:29:35
LAtest from EFC Transfer HQ.

Secretary - Telephone call Mr Kenwright.

BK Who is it ?

Sec - A football agent he says.

BK - Tell him I'm busy talking to Ross.

Sec - Ok.

Sec - Mr Kenwright he still wants to talk to you.

BK - Oh alright then put him through.

Agent - Hi Bill Its Super Agent Paulo Getoneoveronu here. we've done business before, remember Niasse and Rondon of course. Well I spoke to Frank and Kevin yesterday and they said have a word with you, to get the final ok on a deal for my client.

BK - Who is he ?

Agent - He's So So Alsoran. A South Korean wonder kid. 20 goals so far and he's only 19. Plays in Spanish La Liga.

BK - Does he have blue blood like me ?

Agent - Er no Bill, its red like everybody elses.

BK - Does he know who the Holy Trinity are ?

Agent - Er I doubt it, he's a buddhist.

BK - Sorry it's a no go. If he doesn't have blue blood and he doesn't know that Harvey Kendall and Ball are the real Holy Trinity, we are not interested. Goodbye.

BK - Now Ross, were, were we ? Ah yes, £200,000 a week and every other game time off to go clubbing in Ibiza. I'll sort the paper work out. Frank and Kevin will love it when I tell them you are coming back.

RB - Thats odd.

BK - Why is it odd.

RB - Well I spoke to Frank and Kevin yesterday and they said F*ck Off !!

Kieran Kinsella
123 Posted 01/09/2022 at 14:31:44
Gueye's hot air balloon still hasn't landed?
Rob Halligan
124 Posted 01/09/2022 at 14:34:18
The red echo reporting that Andre Gomes left training early today as there is a chance of him moving on. Doesn’t say who or what country it is…………

Everton have received late transfer window interest in Andre Gomes.

The ECHO understands that the 29-year-old could be getting closer to securing a move away from Goodison Park late in the summer to an as-yet unnamed club, with the midfielder having left Finch Farm early on Thursday.

Brian Murray
125 Posted 01/09/2022 at 14:36:09
Goodbye Andre. It’s been emotional
Matthew Williams
126 Posted 01/09/2022 at 14:38:01
Another Striker incoming is of paramount importance as DCL simply cannot be relied upon,as for a Winger, what about the lad Kent at Rangers?
Kevin Molloy
127 Posted 01/09/2022 at 14:38:31
don't worry Brian, he'll be back.
Jamie Crowley
128 Posted 01/09/2022 at 14:39:59
Isn't Maupay a striker?? Or at least fully capable of playing the position?

If we have DCL coming back and now Maupay to deputize, we're not bringing in another striker. Sorry to disappoint, it ain't happening.

Kevin Molloy
129 Posted 01/09/2022 at 14:43:52
Jamie yes big money on a second reserve striker does seem like pie in the sky. I would think we do need though an attacking player of some quality. Right now, McNeil does not replace the attacking threat vacated by Richardson.
Tony Everan
130 Posted 01/09/2022 at 14:44:02
Gomes - Lille
Steve Brown
131 Posted 01/09/2022 at 14:44:32
Rob, apparently it’s Lille
Jack Convery
132 Posted 01/09/2022 at 14:47:18
A striker on loan. it has to be. We can't trust DCL to stay fit and expect Maupay to carry the load. I want Watkins or Broja !!
sean roe
133 Posted 01/09/2022 at 14:47:56
Kieran @ 123,

He was 32 when we started negotiations, he's now just completing his ''well man '' medical with the NHS before he signs

Colin Glassar
134 Posted 01/09/2022 at 14:48:02
All three new signings will be announced together as Bill only wants to pay the photographer for one shoot.
Andy Meighan
135 Posted 01/09/2022 at 14:51:14
Coli 112. Good point mate. Apparently he's downed tools at Ajax. Got to be questioning his character. Still if he does the business it'll all soon be forgotten about. Fickle bunch us footy fans.
Jack Convery
136 Posted 01/09/2022 at 14:51:53
Nice one Colin. It also means he can get back to London pronto to sort out his panto for Xmas.
Raymond Fox
137 Posted 01/09/2022 at 14:52:45
Jack, theres more chance of me signing than Watkins.
Brian Murray
138 Posted 01/09/2022 at 14:53:57
more chance of ollie hardy
Brian Murray
139 Posted 01/09/2022 at 14:55:12
Gomes on the verge ? Hope they mean a grassy knoll with rondon and bk
Rob Halligan
140 Posted 01/09/2022 at 14:55:42
Jeez, Roberto Firmino doesn’t half know how to rabbit away on SSN! 😏😏
Brian Hennessy
141 Posted 01/09/2022 at 14:57:43
Cant's wait to see Gana back in our team, making his trademark interceptions, driving forward, and the look on his face when he looks up to spot a run from Mbappe and Messi and instead sees Rondon.
Jason Saggers
142 Posted 01/09/2022 at 15:02:05
Everton end interest in Jao Pedro! Cue the ‘we tried to get an attacker’ excuse.
Ray Smith
143 Posted 01/09/2022 at 15:03:42
Colin 134

BK only sucks up too media coverage when it’s positive.
However, would he ever allow himself to be interviewed by the media in respect of all the (Moshiri) money he’s blown away, that’s put us where we are?

Jack Convery
144 Posted 01/09/2022 at 15:04:11
8 hours left Mr Moshiri.
Steve Brown
145 Posted 01/09/2022 at 15:06:43
Liverpool after Arthur Melo, and we’re chasing his brother Marsh.
Brian Murray
146 Posted 01/09/2022 at 15:11:42
I think we judged moshiri over half a billion ago
Mark Ryan
147 Posted 01/09/2022 at 15:22:00
Pleased to see AG is going to get a new club, good luck to him. Gomes not Gordon!
Shaun McGough
148 Posted 01/09/2022 at 15:28:16
Thelwell,Kenwright and of course Moshri. Lets see if poor frank is backed properly and at the 11pm judgement hour will us fans be "pleasantly surprised"
Shaun McGough
149 Posted 01/09/2022 at 15:28:16
Thelwell,Kenwright and of course Moshri. Lets see if poor frank is backed properly and at the 11pm judgement hour will us fans be "pleasantly surprised"
Robert Tressell
150 Posted 01/09/2022 at 15:37:43
We are not going to fix the squad in one window. It's also important (as we've seen) not to stockpile lots of average players. So it may be better to buy no new forwards if the right ones are not available, rather than stock up on mediocre players who are available.

If we run our of wingers, we play 532, with no wingers at all. If we are down to one striker we play 451 / 433.

It would only now be an extreme injury list that puts us in real trouble.

Hopefully a striker of genuine ability, who can become better than DCL (a pretty nailed on 15 goal or more striker when fit) arrives in coming windows. No point robbing ourselves of the money by buying mediocre now.

Kevin Molloy
151 Posted 01/09/2022 at 15:40:27
following Onana's transfer from Lille, we now look set to add Gana and Garner. Meanwhile Lille are now interested in Andre Gomes, and want to add him to their midfield of Andre and Gomes.
Nick Page
152 Posted 01/09/2022 at 15:51:48
Robert @150. We’ve been fixing our squad since Martinez came in. You can’t be fixing a squad for TEN years. Unless you’re a clueless twat like Kenwright. Everton that
Colin Glassar
153 Posted 01/09/2022 at 16:13:38
I think Gana and Garner will be it for today. I can’t see any clubs willing to let a decent striker go with only a few hours left.
Jim Bennings
154 Posted 01/09/2022 at 16:18:27
If it does stay at Gana and Garner (commentators night especially throwing Onana in the mix) then I really am concerned about the lack of goals.

We absolutely need Neal Maupay to hit the ground running and by that I mean chip in with goals.

Calvert-Lewin is not gonna be anywhere near match sharp until October (providing he stays fit anyway)

This team needs goals.

Jason Saggers
155 Posted 01/09/2022 at 16:32:29
How can it take this long to announce Gueye?
Brent Stephens
156 Posted 01/09/2022 at 16:34:08
Nick #152 "We’ve been fixing our squad since Martinez came in. You can’t be fixing a squad for TEN years. Unless you’re a clueless..."

Nick, what happened before now is water under the bridge and can't be changed by the current coach. DoF. What They can only address things as they are today. Complaining about the last ten years won't change anything.

Brian Wilkinson
157 Posted 01/09/2022 at 16:34:30
We need to look at the bigger picture, we have brought some players in, we will hopefully be landing Gueye and Garner as well,chances Gomes will be off, we kept hold of Gordon and not bullied into selling, even though it was silly money.

If we can bring a forward in be great, but overall I think we had had a decent window, there’s always the January window If needed, but for now we are in a much better place than for a while, give it time and let’s build it gradually rather than what we have done in the past, throwing silly money and wages like money was going out of fashion.

Christy Ring
158 Posted 01/09/2022 at 16:37:32
Definitely need an extra striker, and Garner and Gueye over the line, and a surprise! I like Kevin Campbell, he's on Sky deadline day, but he reminds me of Merson, hasn't a clue.
Brent Stephens
159 Posted 01/09/2022 at 16:46:10
Sky saying Gueye is signed
Brent Stephens
160 Posted 01/09/2022 at 16:46:27
"£8 million" say Sky.
Jason Saggers
161 Posted 01/09/2022 at 16:46:33
Gueye done at last 😮‍💨
Colin Glassar
162 Posted 01/09/2022 at 16:46:42
Welcome back, Gana
Jack Convery
163 Posted 01/09/2022 at 16:46:50
Steve Brown - good one.
Brent Stephens
164 Posted 01/09/2022 at 16:47:20
£8m - brilliant business.
Jack Convery
165 Posted 01/09/2022 at 16:47:53
Gana has landed his balloon and signed up !!
Brent Stephens
166 Posted 01/09/2022 at 16:47:57
And now on official EFC website.
Jack Convery
167 Posted 01/09/2022 at 16:52:51
Transfers are like bananas. They come in bunches.

Seen being smuggled into FF in Dele Alis Rolls Royce, Watkins, Broja, Gallagher, Gilmour, Kudus, Chukueze, Diaz, Adams, James, Barkley and Uncle Tom Cobbley and all.

Robert Tressell
168 Posted 01/09/2022 at 16:59:32
Kevin # 151, best comment on the thread in my view.

Brent / Brian 156 / 157, I think that has to be right. We now have a decent squad with much more depth than last season (albeit losing Richarlison is a real blow). Hopefully this means future windows means we just need to buy one or two key quality players (and some highly talented youngsters to develop over time). That's how we'll become competitive.

Brent Stephens
169 Posted 01/09/2022 at 17:04:57
Kevin #151 - yes, well spotted re Andre and Gomes!
Pete Neilson
170 Posted 01/09/2022 at 17:07:25
Just need PL to register Gueye. Hope they have enough parchment, ink and quills to do this otherwise no chance of him making the derby.
Brent Stephens
171 Posted 01/09/2022 at 17:12:16
Sky now saying only £2m for Gueye! And Garner pictured by Sky at FF "a short while ago".
Colin Malone
172 Posted 01/09/2022 at 17:13:44
Onana, Iwobi, Gana, Garner, Doucoure, Warrington and Allan. Is Frank going with a three in midfield?
Colin Glassar
173 Posted 01/09/2022 at 17:14:54
And a pigeon, Pete.
Nick White
174 Posted 01/09/2022 at 17:15:28
£2m for Gueye is very good! Roll on a striker! Chelsea are signing the former Arsenal fella so maybe Broja loan?
Jack Convery
175 Posted 01/09/2022 at 17:17:34
Peter Neilson - enough parchment, quills and ink but having to send out for red sealing wax. Bill has heated up his ring to do the honours.
Pete Neilson
176 Posted 01/09/2022 at 17:21:17
Jack, Bill's heated ring, what a horrible image.
Tony Everan
177 Posted 01/09/2022 at 17:23:05
Still need a striker, we have to be concerned about Calvert-Lewin staying fit, too big a gamble not to get back up.

Chuckwueze rumour was an initial loan, Joao Pedro was too, both loan to buy enquiries. So maybe we’ve now ran out of money due to the rules , apart from small change ? We’ll be looking for a loan or loan to buy deal, they must have one or two targets.

Michael Lynch
178 Posted 01/09/2022 at 17:24:51
Great news. Now sign Garner. I was just looking at a long thread on a Forest forum and it seemed like every other post was saying "MOTM again, what a player".

The feeling was that he improved massively as the season went on, getting plenty of game time under a very good manager. By the end, all the fans were desperate to bring him back permanently.

If we do get him, we have to give him time on the pitch otherwise he'll go backwards.

George Cumiskey
179 Posted 01/09/2022 at 17:43:41
If we don't sign another forward and something happens to Maupay we're back up shit creek !
Colin Glassar
180 Posted 01/09/2022 at 17:47:17
We still have the mighty Rondon, George. Looks like he might be off to Turkey next week.
George Cumiskey
181 Posted 01/09/2022 at 17:49:52
Oh no surely Rondons not going 🙏
Brent Stephens
182 Posted 01/09/2022 at 17:52:12
Colin, I suspect you misheard somebody talking about Rondon and turkey.
George Cumiskey
183 Posted 01/09/2022 at 17:55:38
Brent 🤣😂👍
Danny O’Neill
184 Posted 01/09/2022 at 17:58:41
You have a very sharp knife Brent and gobbled that one up.
Jack Convery
185 Posted 01/09/2022 at 18:04:13
Well given what's been going on so far I would say Bournemouth are odds on to go down ( No sh*t Sherlock ), Leicester looking dodgy, Villa are deffo on a poor run extending back to last season. Wolves are still to get themselves into gear - drawing with Bournemouth !! and as for ourselves. Fulham, have Mitrovic and if he stays fit they should have a decent chance to stay up. Southampton look weaker than last season. As for EFC, we'll have to see, come 11pm tonight.

5 hours to go. Judgement awaits.

Michael Lynch
186 Posted 01/09/2022 at 18:06:33
Twitter saying Garner is a done deal - five year contract.

Just a goalscorer before the window closes please and I'll be pretty happy, especially as we seem to have held on to Gordon.

Colin Glassar
187 Posted 01/09/2022 at 18:06:43
Rondon can get stuffed as far as I’m concerned.
Jack Convery
188 Posted 01/09/2022 at 18:14:32
Rondon just ordered a takeaway of Sage and Onion.
Raymond Fox
189 Posted 01/09/2022 at 18:16:59
We don't need any more stoppers thank you, we have a dire shortage of scorers.
You can't win if you don't score.
Brent Stephens
190 Posted 01/09/2022 at 18:17:16
Colin "Rondon can get stuffed as far as I'm concerned."

Rondon has just tweeted in response "Sop pulling my leg, Colin!"

Tony Everan
191 Posted 01/09/2022 at 18:25:49
According to one journalist, Daily Mail's Dominic King, the Gana fee was £2M, not £8M.
Joe Digney
192 Posted 01/09/2022 at 18:28:28
Looking like Diaz off to Fulham, that forwards list getting smaller and smaller. I'd take the Jamaican from Russia at this stage, he'd be like Niasse but with a cooler accent.
Terry Downes
193 Posted 01/09/2022 at 18:30:34
Doesn't look like Frankie "no subs" is going to use his connections with Chelsea any time soon?

Still no striker – what the fuck are they talking about in that boardroom??

Neil Copeland
194 Posted 01/09/2022 at 18:32:35
SSN reporting that we are back in for Diaz, looking like we need to offer at least £15M for him.
Tony Everan
195 Posted 01/09/2022 at 18:33:48
Romano just tweeted.

“Now Aubameyang is done, Chelsea trying to get Depay as well. Broja is open to an Everton loan deal.”

Neil Copeland
196 Posted 01/09/2022 at 18:33:55
As for Rondon, he can pluck right off
Derek Taylor
197 Posted 01/09/2022 at 18:45:49
I suspect the loan cupboard is bare and Moshiri will not fund any more cash purchases.

It will now be up to Frank to whip the squad he has into shape. No money on that one from me!

Colin Glassar
198 Posted 01/09/2022 at 18:46:32
The Rondon rumours are all gobbledygook.
Michael Lynch
199 Posted 01/09/2022 at 18:48:03
Broja on loan and complete the Garner deal and I would judge this as a good transfer window.
Rob Sachro
200 Posted 01/09/2022 at 18:48:28
There are plenty of strikers out there... just make a bid for one, for fuck's sake!

At this point, I don't care if it's Niasse... Okay, maybe not. Although he did better than Rondon - but that's not saying much.

Nick White
201 Posted 01/09/2022 at 18:50:00
Tony, I think that’s what will happen.
Michael Lynch
202 Posted 01/09/2022 at 18:57:24
Seems to be a lot of noise about a late bid for Brereton Diaz. If so, I don't really understand why this couldn't have been done weeks ago, and we'd have had him playing in the first five games?

I can only assume that Frank has given up on all the other options, which will hardly make this lad feel wanted, will it?

Derek Taylor
203 Posted 01/09/2022 at 19:00:08
Tony @ 191.

I believe that is so because Everton paid the money he was due in 'severance' from PSG!

Tony Everan
204 Posted 01/09/2022 at 19:02:39
Derek, thanks, no wonder he was smiling so much.

Warrington out on loan until January, doesn't say where to.

Tony Abrahams
205 Posted 01/09/2022 at 19:04:42
I watched him playing the other night Tony, and it looked obvious that Warrington needs to go and play proper men's football, instead of the Under-21 stuff.
Derek Taylor
206 Posted 01/09/2022 at 19:07:59
That's another we shall never hear of again, Tony!

We'd rather sign other clubs' cast-offS at inflated fees.

Tony Everan
207 Posted 01/09/2022 at 19:08:46
Definitely, Tony, hopefully to a good club with a step up in standard. He looks like a cool customer, like the way there is no panic when he gets the ball.

Shows he is thinking of his next move before he gets it, sign of quality. Looking forward to see how he gets on with his loan club.

Joe Digney
208 Posted 01/09/2022 at 19:29:09
I reckon Frank was holding out for Broja, Michael, but that's probably not going to materialise anymore, so he moved down the list to Diaz.

I can't see Blackburn selling this late though with no time to sign a replacement –unless we send them the Venezuelan god in return.

Brian Wilkinson
209 Posted 01/09/2022 at 19:31:11
Would not be a transfer Deadline Day if I did not mention Batshuayi, one of the worst strikers out there.
Johan Elmgren
210 Posted 01/09/2022 at 19:33:08
Gueye in, and Garner on the way. If we just now can get Joao Pedro in, I'd rate this window as a very, very good one.

Joao Pedro, a real talent with pace and energy, can play as a forward or on either wing. Come on, let's get it done, get in and negotiate!!

John McFarlane Snr
211 Posted 01/09/2022 at 19:35:57
Hi all, for those who accuse Everton of being guilty of not seeking a goal-scoring forward, I see no proof that this is the situation.

It's my opinion that, in order for a transfer to take place, both clubs and the player' should arrive at an agreement. We fans are not privy to the negotiations and, as frustrating as it is, we're not likely to learn the conversation leading to the signing of the transfer forms.

Whether we like it or not, we have no influence one way or another.

David West
212 Posted 01/09/2022 at 19:40:23
I don't think another striker is the be all or end all of our season as some might think.

Calvert-Lewin is 1 or 2 weeks away from coming back. Maupay is now a more mobile, competitive and hungry option to the no-threat Rondon. Them 2 instantly give us more threat while taking pressure and defenders off Gordon and Gray etc.

Yes, we all want another option up front but I don't want them to panic-buy some fool at the last minute just for the bodies and we are stuck with them for 4 or 5 years... Remember Tosun do we?

Walcott anyone? Fat Sam wanted more "bodies"... well, Tosun was like a dead body. Walcott a waste!! These are the type you end up with.

I'd rather get the right people – even if I have to read a load of negativity about us going down at 11pm if they can't get the right forward option.

Nick White
213 Posted 01/09/2022 at 19:52:18
Batshuayi to Forest, it seems. 👍
Ray Roche
214 Posted 01/09/2022 at 20:00:51
Johan, Pedro has said he wants to stay at Watford.
Johan Elmgren
215 Posted 01/09/2022 at 20:07:18
Yes Ray, but you'd expect a player to say that, right? If we can just negotiate a deal with Watford, I think he'd be glad to come...

And I think we should prioritize him, he feels like the best attainable option out there to me.

Jamie Crowley
216 Posted 01/09/2022 at 20:12:14
I keep reading, "Garner on the way" but wished it was official!

Still nervous, would like to see him in the squad. Hopefully official announcement very soon.

Ray Roche
218 Posted 01/09/2022 at 20:21:18
Johan @215,

Maybe, but it appears from reports that he's that rare thing in football, a decent bloke, wanting to help Watford get back up, not sulking, downing tools, going on strike etc.

I think it's dead in the water myself. I hope I'm wrong.

Simon Dalzell
219 Posted 01/09/2022 at 20:29:50
Latest... from Sky.

Everton won't pay the asking price for Diaz...

Aaaaarhg. Get it done.

George Cumiskey
220 Posted 01/09/2022 at 20:32:15
How some people can say they're not worried if we don't get another striker in is beyond me.

So we'll manage with Maupay, who's not a prolific scorer, and Calvert-Lewin, who's made of glass?

Kevin Molloy
221 Posted 01/09/2022 at 20:32:45
I got the impression from Sky just now that the Garner deal also isn't quite done, still negotiations ongoing.
Joe McMahon
222 Posted 01/09/2022 at 20:33:42
I agree, Simon, our goal difference was worse than Burnley's last season and we had Richarlison.

Calvert-Lewin, even when fit, is limited to around the 6-yard box. We need strikers!

Johan Elmgren
223 Posted 01/09/2022 at 20:34:37
Yeah Ray, refreshing with a player that doesn't act to "force" a move for a change... Seems a loyal bloke, so that's another good reason as to why we should try to get it done.
Alec Gaston
224 Posted 01/09/2022 at 20:44:52
Terry #193,

Sadly I think all of Frank's Chelsea connections have left the club following Abramovic selling the club I don't think we have any sway and we didn't sell them Gordon.

Finn Taylor
225 Posted 01/09/2022 at 20:46:11
I mentioned in another thread re Garner. I heard this morning something had occurred in the medical and he has had to go for an additional MRI scan... of course, could be nothing.
Steavey Buckley
226 Posted 01/09/2022 at 20:52:53
If Everton don't secure capable strikers at this important transfer window, Everton will be in a relegation battle until the end of the season.

Everton fans should not be put in this situation at all. It's just bad management. Even a pub team secures strikers before their season begins. But not at Everton they don't. Crazy.

Paul Christian
227 Posted 01/09/2022 at 20:57:26
There must be a thousand plus strikers across Europe and Central and South America and we can't find one.
Paul Kossoff
228 Posted 01/09/2022 at 20:57:56
Michy Batshuayi, what a player. He's managed to stay at Chelsea since 2016, stay not exactly the right word, he's been out on loan for five of the years he's been at Chelsea, just gone to Forest.

We dodged a bullet on a player who would rather sit on his arse protected by a long contract, go out on loan and have two clubs paying his wages than go to another club.

His favourite song apparently, Money, Money, Money! He is the type that ruin football, motivated purely by cash and nothing else. What's the betting that there are plenty of idiots wishing him all the best, unreal!

Simon Dalzell
229 Posted 01/09/2022 at 20:58:16
Looks like Forest are getting Batshuayi, on top of Dennis, Gibbs-White etc. They have stacks of attacking options. We really need to act today.
Michael Lynch
230 Posted 01/09/2022 at 21:05:23
Forest have bought an entire squad in this window. Maybe we could get a couple of their forwards on loan?

Peter Carpenter
231 Posted 01/09/2022 at 21:08:06
Forest gone mad or will it work? Didn't go well for Fulham a few years ago.
Steavey Buckley
232 Posted 01/09/2022 at 21:08:25
That should help the attacking options securing 2 more midfielders who don't score goals.
Colin Glassar
233 Posted 01/09/2022 at 21:14:31
We can get brereton-Diaz for free in January.
Robert Tressell
234 Posted 01/09/2022 at 21:14:34
For perspective, Man City, the RS and Chelsea only have 2 strikers in each of their squads.

It looks like they wanted Broja or Joao Pedro but it was not to be. These are the right quality / potential. Others will emerge. That will be a priority for next season, I expect.

It has been a disappointing (but by no means disastrous) start. DCL should be fit soon and Maupay can start the next game.

Jack Convery
235 Posted 01/09/2022 at 21:16:26
Michael Lynch - Forest now have 5 centre forwards on their books. Lets be cheeky and enquire about Sam Surridge. He's 24 and not going to get a look in, other than a bit part player in EFL / FA Cup. His stats last season were 48 games, 13 goals and 3 assists. As the third striker he'd do a job. Didn't he come on

against Arsenal in the FA Cup and terrify them ?

I reckon Garner deal on hold, incase we need some of the cash we're offering for him to get a CF across the line before 11. No wonder we bartered PSG down to £2m for Gueye. We're skint.

Ciarán McGlone
236 Posted 01/09/2022 at 21:16:27
Puts the anger at the Maupay signing (average at best) into context.
George Cumiskey
237 Posted 01/09/2022 at 21:17:29
No forward disgraceful planning !
Keith Gleave
238 Posted 01/09/2022 at 21:20:15
Gueye signs after 2 weeks of messing about. Garner more messing about. No chance of a striker. Piss ups and breweries.
George Cumiskey
239 Posted 01/09/2022 at 21:21:14
Has something gone wrong with the Garner transfer ?
Jim Bennings
240 Posted 01/09/2022 at 21:27:35
Maupay will need to be something excellent because I'm not pinning any hopes of DCL and his atrocious fitness record.
Paul Birmingham
241 Posted 01/09/2022 at 21:28:16
Everton have had a good transfer window but in my view have addressed the striker issue.

B Díaz, for me is the business but let’s see what happens in the next 90 minutes.

DCL is due back but I’m not convinced of his recent come back attempts, after major injuries, and Rondon would be better getting in the ring with George Forman, even though he’s shifted some timber from last season.

If, DCL gets crocked and with only Maupay, then it’s a massive ask to get the Everton midfield trio, quartet, scoring goals.

But all faith in Frank, he will get Everton playing with some flair again, but it may take a little longer, and there’s some positives to take in these early days of this season.

Hope eternal.

Alan Brown
242 Posted 01/09/2022 at 21:29:09
Guardian live feed saying Garner has signed. Initial £9m. £15m with add-ons.

Sounds to me that the recruitment team know what they are doing.

Jim Bennings
243 Posted 01/09/2022 at 21:38:54
We refuse to pay what Blackburn want for Diaz, but are happy to spend loads of money on defensive midfielders and Dwight McNeil?

Sometimes I just find Everton hard to fathom.

We've made some pretty decent signings, decent, but when it all comes down to it we still don't have the look of a team that will have enough firepower.

Pete Hughes
244 Posted 01/09/2022 at 21:40:31
So, its looking increasingly likely no new striker is coming in?
I just hope 25/30 goals is enough to keep us up?😔
Steavey Buckley
245 Posted 01/09/2022 at 21:42:14
Everton can't survive another relegation scare without strikers. It's as simple as that.
Mark Ryan
246 Posted 01/09/2022 at 21:43:24
Would rather have spent the McNeil money on a striker but it's now Hindsight. If we've run out of cash then so be it. I find it mind boggling though that we can't find a loan deal for a striker from somewhere on the the entire planet ?
Christy Ring
247 Posted 01/09/2022 at 21:45:11
Could we not throw in Rondon as part of the deal for Diaz, could probably still do a job in the Championship.
Joe McMahon
248 Posted 01/09/2022 at 21:45:19
I just don't understand it, the world and his wife knew Richarlason was leaving over 12 months ago. DCL is certainly not some kind of Kane, Salah goal machine. We are in deep shit.
Michael Lynch
249 Posted 01/09/2022 at 21:50:31
Well at least we keep Gordon, and he's scoring now. WIth DCL, Maupay and Gray, we should be able to score a few as long as our midfield and wing backs can get the assists going.

Garner looks like he has a decent long ball in him, and Onana can thread a pass, so we might score against the bigger teams who leave a bit of space at the back while they pound our defence.

Alex Gray
250 Posted 01/09/2022 at 21:53:14
The players we’ve signed I'm delighted with. Step in the right direction. Not replacing Richarlison is criminal.
Jerome Shields
251 Posted 01/09/2022 at 21:56:00
Good news that Gueye has signed.
Joe McMahon
252 Posted 01/09/2022 at 21:56:49
Micheal@249, despite all the hype no one was going to bid for DCL anyway.
Brian Hennessy
253 Posted 01/09/2022 at 21:57:37
Christy #247. My sources tell me Blackburn asked us for 15 Million for Diaz. Everton asked what price if we give them Rondon, to which Blackburn replied, 20 Million.
Rob Jones
254 Posted 01/09/2022 at 21:59:39
It's been a good transfer window for us. We've addressed a lot of problem areas, toughened the spine, and we might actually have a midfield, which we haven't had for at least five years.

Signing Maupay doesn't replace Richarlison, but that's who we could afford.

Would people rather we'd continued to piss money against the wall, as we have, leading us to where we are?

Michael Burke
255 Posted 01/09/2022 at 22:00:06
I am pleased we aren't going down the route of previous transfer windows and paying £20m+ and being held to ransom by the clubs, because we have money. That pattern of spending has left us in the mire. We seem to be much clearer in our policy. We have signed a striker in Muapay. We have signed 2 leaders at centre back and central midfielders, giving us the potential of a strong spine.
Jack Convery
256 Posted 01/09/2022 at 22:02:01
Good evening Mr Thelwell. The photo you are looking at is that of Broja. A Centre Forward with a great future.

Your job, should you choose to accept it, Is to get Chelsea to sell him or loan him to us for a few beans and Rondon. Should you or any of your staff fail and be mentioned in the newspapers, the Board will disavow you and throw you to the Wolves.

Good Luck, Kevin.

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Adam Oakensworth
257 Posted 01/09/2022 at 22:03:30
I hope none of these new signings have a relegation release clause in their contract as we'll need them to get back up in 23-24.

If you don't score goals you don't win games. Looking very bleak indeed.

Tony Graham
258 Posted 01/09/2022 at 22:04:56
Got to rely on skirty firing and staying fit, a big gamble
George Cumiskey
259 Posted 01/09/2022 at 22:08:08
Fucking joke club waiting till the last day to try and get a striker on the cheap got Kenshites DNA all over it !
Colin Glassar
260 Posted 01/09/2022 at 22:10:55
Where’s James Garner? The live one, not the dead one.
Jack Convery
261 Posted 01/09/2022 at 22:12:20
Nicolas de Preville. You heard it here first.
Kieran Kinsella
262 Posted 01/09/2022 at 22:12:30
Bill is digging into it at LA memorial park Colin
Robert Tressell
263 Posted 01/09/2022 at 22:15:35
Hopefully that's the last we hear of it too, Jack. Make more sense to get Matej Vydra...
Jack Convery
264 Posted 01/09/2022 at 22:15:40
Maybe Kenwright thought it was the James Garner and is now trying to get out of it.
Neil Copeland
265 Posted 01/09/2022 at 22:16:01
James Garner confirmed.
Paul Birmingham
266 Posted 01/09/2022 at 22:16:47
Garner's deal is done! He's an Everton player!

Now for an additional striker?

Michael Lynch
267 Posted 01/09/2022 at 22:16:59
Garner on the OS
Steve Cotton
268 Posted 01/09/2022 at 22:18:36
Garner just signed, which is a shock to him as he thought he signed on Tuesday.
Jack Convery
269 Posted 01/09/2022 at 22:21:06
5live saying Garner deal is done.
George Cumiskey
270 Posted 01/09/2022 at 22:22:56
Waited till the last minute to announce the Garner signing to deflect from the debacle of not signing a striker, very clever.
Colin Glassar
271 Posted 01/09/2022 at 22:24:40
Garner was caught trying to escape stalag luft III aka finch farm. He was rugby tackled by Bill who said, “not so fast, darling. You’re mine and that shirt is expensive “.
Michael Lynch
272 Posted 01/09/2022 at 22:24:51
Sky reporter reckons that’s it for us, so no striker.
Jim Bennings
273 Posted 01/09/2022 at 22:25:35
How many games is Garner actually gonna play?

Onana and Gueye will be first choice, then you've got the likes of Doucoure who probably still gets in ahead.

I can't quite work out why we've signed so many players in one particular area but not properly addressed the goals

Jack Convery
274 Posted 01/09/2022 at 22:26:36
Too true George. Playing the fans as usual. What we have brought in is good, very good in some instances and definitely improves the defence and midfield. However to win games you need goals. So not to have a third striker in yet is not good at all. I hope they pull a rabbit out of the hat. If they do I'll be the first to applaud them. COYBs get that CF in.
Paul Christian
275 Posted 01/09/2022 at 22:27:46
It's taken us all feckin day to sign 2 players we signed yesterday.
Hugh Jenkins
276 Posted 01/09/2022 at 22:28:32
From past history, although the deadline I 11 pm today - we normally announce that we have signed a target several hours after the official deadline time. It is obviously Bill's sense of the dramatic.
David West
277 Posted 01/09/2022 at 22:33:54
Que the usual posts recycling same old shite, about same old people,
At least we won't be stuck with some last minute bargain buy striker for 4- 5 years. Already carrying Rondon.

If we have some improvement in midfield and defence then we don't need to score as many to win matches.
Which we clearly have compared to last year's midfield and seive like defence.

It's more than 1 window project to sort this squad. Was never going to all be rosy after sept 1st

Danny O’Neill
278 Posted 01/09/2022 at 22:34:00
I get what you're saying Jim, but for years I've bemoaned that we didn't have anything substantial beyond a decent 12 - 14.

We lacked depth and once the injuries kicked in, it hurt us.

We now have depth. Goals come from different areas. We have a lot of midfield options as well as players with goals in them from wide areas. Gordon, Gray, even Townsend and I would say Iwobi too. We have built a solid spine, have 2 young full backs brimming with potential and when Calvert-Lewin is back, along with Maupay, we have 2 senior strikers challenging each other not to mention a few youngsters knocking on the door.

For the first time in years, it feels like we're building a squad based on a plan based on foundations rather than trying to fix the roof first.

The future is blue. Here we go. Spirit of the blues.


Sam Hoare
279 Posted 01/09/2022 at 22:34:14
Big, big pressure on DCL staying fit and finding form.

For all the good work done in this window we have finished short of threat and goals. Everton always seem to take the till-the-deadline approach and it has backfired once more. If we’d made significant moves for the likes of Kudus or Pedro a few weeks ago we may have secured them, but such moves were harder to pull off with those teams having no time to replace.

Hope we change this approach in years to come.

Derek Wadeson
280 Posted 01/09/2022 at 22:34:19
David West @ 212

Thank you for talking sense.

George Cumiskey
281 Posted 01/09/2022 at 22:37:12
We don't need to score as many goals to win matches ???????
Paul Birmingham
282 Posted 01/09/2022 at 22:37:46
Jack, @264, priceless, superb.

Year on year, I believe Everton's in a better place, could it have been much worse then, last season survival was the miracle achieved by Everton supporters, but hopefully fresh blood, will raise the improving fighting spirit in this squad, for this season.

Hopefully Everton, will keep their belief and fight, from the Leeds game, to take it to the Spawn of The Devil, this Saturday, and get the first win of this season.

Focus on us, and let the Satanic Rights be exercised and buried this Saturday.


Jack Convery
283 Posted 01/09/2022 at 22:40:37
Go and get Pukki, Frank. 11 goals for Norwich in the EPL last season and they hardly had the ball - except when they played us of course. We need a goal scorer.
Kevin Molloy
284 Posted 01/09/2022 at 22:45:29
I think Goodison will bring out the best in Maupay, I reckon he's good for ten goals plus. I reckon that will be enough. It was last year. In fact, I'm a bit relieved we didn't blow 30m plus on some foreign winger I've never heard of. Frank is well capable of that, as we know from Dele.
George Cumiskey
285 Posted 01/09/2022 at 22:47:33
What's the old saying you can't kid all of the people all of the time ? Well blue Bill and Everton seem to manage it 🤪😜
Danny O’Neill
286 Posted 01/09/2022 at 22:49:29
A management team shaping the squad in their own way. Changing what hasn't worked. Not replacing Richarlison or anyone else like for like - it didn't work. Bringing in players to fit how they want to play. Let's give it a go.

Down and out in August? I won't make blasphemous remarks. I just hope those of you stressing and worrying are celebrating with me in May.

Ciarán McGlone
287 Posted 01/09/2022 at 22:50:35
What's the betting Frank reverts to a back 5 on Saturday having signed surplus central midfielders. Not sure we ever were prioritising a decent striker, which is strange considering the money spent on McNeill, Maupay and Garner.. who will mostly be squad players.

Anyway.. we'll stay up with what we've got.. but don't expect too much excitement this season.

Onwards and upwards.

Danny O’Neill
288 Posted 01/09/2022 at 22:50:49
I'll side with you on Kenwright George. Absolutely.
Tony Hill
289 Posted 01/09/2022 at 22:52:19
James Garner is a very good signing indeed and Gueye is a good one.

Otherwise, I hope like Kevin @284, but I worry like Sam @279.

Bill Watson
290 Posted 01/09/2022 at 22:58:34
Gomes signs for Lille on loan
Bobby Mallon
291 Posted 01/09/2022 at 22:59:53
No striker when will we fooking Lear. 15 million for a midfielder when 15 million would have got us our needed striker ahhh ffs Everton
Ray Roche
292 Posted 01/09/2022 at 22:59:56
Gomes signs for Lille
Jack Convery
293 Posted 01/09/2022 at 23:00:41
A warm welcome to James Garner. If he succeeds, then he could be a future captain in a few years time. Give your all James and us blues will back you all the way and you'll understand why being blue is something really special. a 20 yarder against the RS in the Gwladys St End, this Saturday, will do for starters.
Michael Lynch
294 Posted 01/09/2022 at 23:01:55
Gomes off the books
Will Mabon
295 Posted 01/09/2022 at 23:02:22
Time to judge Moshiri...
Colin Glassar
296 Posted 01/09/2022 at 23:03:34
Rondon signs for Oscar Meyer.
Michael Lynch
297 Posted 01/09/2022 at 23:04:23
Hopefully we’ve done enough business to keep us in the premier league but I think it will be squeaky bum time again in May
Jason Saggers
298 Posted 01/09/2022 at 23:07:45
When is Bill & Moshiris sentencing hearing?
Jack Convery
299 Posted 01/09/2022 at 23:10:22
6.5 for Moshiri. With a decent CF, it would have been 9.
Tony Shelby
300 Posted 01/09/2022 at 23:11:03
“Judge us at the end of the transfer window.”

OK… Where’s the fucking striker?

Ian McAvoy
301 Posted 01/09/2022 at 23:13:31
Not bringing in a decent CF when three of the ones knocking on the first team door are sent out on loan is shocking. DCL is injury prone and we need someone of his level for competition. Why did Lampard sanction the loans for Simms etc knowing we were light upfront, especially given we have glass ankles in the treatment room and Rondon?
Ciarán McGlone
302 Posted 01/09/2022 at 23:19:02
It hasn't been a bad window but spending the majority of your budget, nearly 40 million, on players who arguably don't improve the first team seems a bit profligate.

Assuming we play a 451.. our best eleven has to include Gueye, Iwobi and Onana in the middle.. with Gray and Gordon on the flanks and DCL up top.

That will hopefully leave us mid table.

Paul Birmingham
303 Posted 01/09/2022 at 23:19:37
Well better than expected, transfer window, but the most obvious requirement to boost the strike force is missed.

Good news that AG, is staying and growing in stature every game.

So we will improvise, adapt and overcome on and off the park.

Everton have learnt to do, especially in the irony of these previous cash rich years, whereby hopefully the lessons are learned.

But some very good signings this window and line up B Díaz, for January and future planning.

Now to get set for them, and beat them.


Christy Ring
304 Posted 01/09/2022 at 23:20:07
I believe we've a lot better squad, good defence, midfield now has loads of pace and a defensive midfielder, Maupay in my opinion is underrated, and DCL is back, and Gordon on fire, forget the doom and gloom
Chris James
305 Posted 01/09/2022 at 23:20:58
Not a terrible window considering the constrictions, the return of Gueye plus Onana and Garner promise a more stable platform in midfield, we have two new centre backs (another problem area), a full back and another winger, plus at least one striking option. We've also kept hold of our most exciting attacking prospect in Gordon and released a chunk of deadwood.

Would have liked another attacking option (and preferred to keep Richarlison obv), but I think we've improved the squad.

Kieran Kinsella
306 Posted 01/09/2022 at 23:21:11
Gomes has gone! 🙏🏻😃
Tony Everan
307 Posted 01/09/2022 at 23:23:50
We’ve got a proper team now with one condition. That DCL gets fit and stays fit. Defensively we are more stable with two good signings and Patterson back fit and looking good. Midfield is way stronger, very pleased, delighted even, with the three signings.

Then we get to the goalscorer, it is a side that is primarily designed to feed DCL. With him fit and firing we can really start to rapidly progress . With him out injured we are too light on the goal threat front. We have a loan slot still available, I’m surprised we didn’t use it. Was it retained for the unlikely chance of getting Broja?

Maupay, Gordon and Gray are capable of causing problems and grabbing a goal, so they will need to produce the goods if the main man is out. At least until January. The better quality of midfield will help them achieve that.

Dave Abrahams
308 Posted 01/09/2022 at 23:25:36
We got the defence strengthened, the centre midfield looks a lot better than it was but the attack, though it was added to, doesn’t look much better than it was and that was where nearly all Everton fans wanted the team improved in, time will tell if it has.

Rome wasn’t built in a day so we will have to persevere with what we have been given, Frank Lampard has been provided with a lot of improvement and kept the player he insisted he didn’t want to sell, let’s see if he utilise these players better than he did with, to be honest, a very poor squad but being honest again he didn’t do much better than the man most Everton fans didn’t want, Mr. Benitez,and Frank had the best backing any Everton manager ever had off the fans, while Benitez had very little from the moment he walked into Finch Farm.

Come on Frank the ball is now in your court, obviously we need more players but let’s see you prove that you can move us up the league, most fans will be happy if you move us to halfway up the table at the end of the season, including me. That’s how sad we are now as a club.

Jason Li
309 Posted 01/09/2022 at 23:27:08
Looks like we'll have to play like the Brazil 2002 team with the 3 R's. Less based on a single striker backing into the centre halves with hold up play and headers when DCL isn't fit. When DCL is fit, we can try to put higher balls in around the penalty area like City do with Haaland. (Definitely not saying to expect Maupay to be as talented as Ronaldo.)

Overall there is much more pace, steel, power and it looks like the goals against will be a lot less this season, so it was very good overall. Goals wise it's a guess that Maupay is a straight swap for Richarlison. And Gordon looks like he's found the sweet spot distance from goal where he can finish.

With the World Cup break later on, Frank has time to assess if needs another player in the winter window too. So overall pleased.

Phil Lewis
310 Posted 01/09/2022 at 23:27:42
Andre Gomes looked an absolute class act when we first signed him. Many fans, myself included took his silky skills to heart. I believe after that hideous injury against Spurs, when incidentally he was enjoying his best spell for us, he never looked the same player again. Subsequent performances on his return were obviously substandard. Whether his deterioration was physical, mental or a combination of both, perhaps we will never know. It was a sad end to an Everton career which promised so much in the beginning. Nobody can deny that he possessed genuine quality when he first pulled on the Royal Blue. His demise will remain a mystery.
I wish him well at Lille. I hope he can resurrect his career. I believe he had genuine affection for our club. He could have dug his heels in and continued to draw his considerable salary. Fair play to him for seeking football elsewhere. Many fans have been critical of the wages he received with us. That was not the players fault. They were the terms of his contract. Hopefully lessons will be learned from these inflated contracts in future.
Brent Stephens
311 Posted 01/09/2022 at 23:32:19
Phil, I'd agree with all those points and the sentiment. Good luck, Andre.
Kunal Desai
312 Posted 01/09/2022 at 23:35:33
Judge us after the window closes is what Moshiri said. Defensively I think we are fine, don't think we'll concede a similar number of goals like we did last season. I would have prefered we spent the money on another striker instead of McNeil who i'm not convinced about.

Lampard mentioned the remit was some progress on last season, hopefully keeping things tight and compact at the back and in midfield whilst nicking the odd goal. Might not be pretty at times but if gets us to 14th/15th in the league come the end of the season then that is mission accomplished for the club.

Everyone needs to realise where we are right now as a club and the objective is to avoid relegation.

Dave Abrahams
313 Posted 01/09/2022 at 23:39:08
Lewis Warrington went on loan to Fleetwood, hope he gets plenty of games with them.
Bill Watson
314 Posted 01/09/2022 at 23:40:03
Michael #294

Gomes is on loan, not off the books. His contract runs to 2024.

The current squad is a huge improvement on last season. We have what is essentially a new back four and the midfield is much stronger. Gueye will provide defensive cover which will free up Onana and Iwobi. We still have Doucouré and Townsend to come back and cover in Davies and Allan. There's also Garner, too.

All in all not a bad window.

Phil Lewis
315 Posted 01/09/2022 at 23:40:46
Delighted with the resigning of Gana Gueye. A committed athlete, even at 32, he could easily continue at the highest level for another 2-3 seasons. If he still possesses anything like his old prowess, then he could prove to be a tremendous acquisition. His influence and experience will be invaluable to the younger players around him.
Si Cooper
316 Posted 01/09/2022 at 23:43:32
Did DCL resume training this week as it was rumoured he would?
I’m very interested to see what Maupay and Garner bring to the mix, and also how Gana and Onana can complement each other.
David West
317 Posted 01/09/2022 at 23:44:48
George 281 its simple maths mate, concede less goals, you don't need to score as many to win games.
Be hard to score against, its not rocket science mate. If you don't concede you only have to score 1.

If we would of blown the whole budget on a couple of strikers, that wouldn't have helped if we are still fragile in midfield and letting in 3-4-5 goals every other week last last year.

We were crumbling in matches late on, when if we could stay in the match we have a chance.

Tony Hill
318 Posted 01/09/2022 at 23:47:54
Correct, Kunal @312. There is a feeling of solidity about the team tonight which has taken me a bit by surprise. I can see a plan and a movement towards what we want to be.

I can't really complain since that's what I've been asking for: a re-build first into something tough and a bit nasty, and then a development into a competitive and attractive side over time.

Ernie Baywood
319 Posted 01/09/2022 at 23:49:53
Our business has been good. The spine has been addressed. We won't be going into games with the wrong players in the wrong positions. That's all good news.

The question still remains whether we have enough quality to score enough goals. I suspect not, and it's going to be a long season.

For what it's worth I think we'll like Maupay. He just won't score enough.


Patterson Coady Tarkowski Mykolenko - solid mid table defence

Onana Gueye Iwobi - energetic midfield - lacking a bit of creativity and goals

Gray and Gordon - fine with that plus support options

DCL or Maupay - lacking fitness or goals

That's an improvement. But it's a lower mid table team. There's no denying it.

Edit: When did Gueye last play? Or train? Surely he can't make it into Saturday's team?

Bill Gall
320 Posted 01/09/2022 at 23:51:05
Well I think that this transfer overall has improved the team and squad.,After nearly every game last season the overall criticism was our midfield was overrun and allowed to much pressure on the back line that was weak, and there appeared to be a lack of fitness.

We have since the end of last season through transfers and either letting go or loaning out,moved about 16 players. Coming in we have strengthened the Midfield and Defense plus the Forwards with a stronger and experienced 8 players .

The loss of Richarlison was expected and I think he may have made a mistake in thinking it would help him in the National team at the World Cup.

It was a disappointment in not getting a back up striker for DCL who's Transfer Market value on June 15th 2022 was listed as 44m. A decent striker is a hard position to fill and usually expensive, and I don't now if other clubs managed to find one.

I think the DOF and the Manager done well in getting the players they wanted and the Board for backing them in keeping Gordon.

Ernie Baywood
321 Posted 01/09/2022 at 23:54:29
David 317 - I don't think our team is good enough to rely on those kind of fine margins. Goals have always been crucial. Every relegation threatened team tried to find a way to score the goals that would keep them up.

We're playing with fire.

Jamie Sweet
322 Posted 01/09/2022 at 23:57:57
There's a lot to be positive about in this transfer window, some smart moves being made, strength added to defence and midfield.

The lack of goal threat across our front three is a real worry though.

My other concern is that I'm struggling to name three really bad teams in the division this year. We desperately need to start scoring goals and winning games very soon. And we've got Liverpool, Arsenal, Spurs & Man Utd in our next 6!

Mike Allison
323 Posted 01/09/2022 at 00:01:00
Disappointed we didn’t bring in that extra attacker. I really wanted Brereton-Diaz but his contract expires next summer so perhaps we’re playing a clever long game there.

We have a lot of players out of contract next summer so we seem to be building for the long term. These include both of Begovic and Lonergan, then also Mina, Coleman, Allan, Doucoure, Davies, Townsend and Rondon. Coady and Vinagre’s loans will also end. If we can be sensible about saving some money within FFP then I can see why we’d do that.

If we play with a back four from now on we should be aiming top ten and two proper cup runs, with the main objective being to build a stable system at the club and develop what is now a young, promising squad.

Anyone still desperate for a striker, there are a few out of contract. Standout names include:

Diego Costa (33)
Simone Zaza (31)
Oumar Niasse (32)
Marek Vydra (30)
Daniel Sturridge (33)
Andy Carroll (33)
Hal Robson-Kanu (33)

But then again, we kept hold of Rondon.

Ian Riley
324 Posted 02/09/2022 at 00:07:33
Well that's it! All done!

Frank needs to get positive results now with this squad. Another striker would have helped but Gordon has stayed!

Remember survival is success! Onward and upwards!

Ed Prytherch
325 Posted 02/09/2022 at 00:10:31
A good window. Some good players in with a mix of youth and experience and a few expensive and unproductive players out on loan.
Soren Moyer
326 Posted 01/09/2022 at 00:11:31
Brian, 253,
Thanks for the laugh mate. Great stuff.
Paul Birmingham
327 Posted 01/09/2022 at 00:14:35
Things can and will get better.

Gana’s, nous derived from PSG, playing with Messi, Neymar and more, could have a good mindset impact on this Everton squad.

Now it’s time to stand up and be counted in the EPL.

Focus on the positives of this transfer window, and Everton, can build and grow in stature this season.

It’s a rebuild and still in draft but it’s been, a good transfer window, but it’s a work in progress, but all said not too bad, ideally the extra striker for me, was key to the strength in depth plan, this squad has achieved in all departments, bar the attack.


Allan Board
328 Posted 01/09/2022 at 00:23:45
All our games are going to be tight with the odd goal in it. It has to be this way- cut out the stupid mistakes and stop conceding so many goals. All of us have said for year's that if we concede 1st then that's the game over- this has to stop.
Consistency is the key to player confidence and it won't be quick or come easy- however, I believe that the current coach set up and dof are targeting the correct areas in the 1st instance to make us hard to beat,together, uncompromising, challenging of officialdom
and football savvy.
This is bloody long overdue, I am entirely in agreement and the results will come.
It won't be Brazil 1970, but long term Everton will have a proper foundation to build teams/squads from and have organisation.
Frank is dragging Everton into the modern age from the ground up.
Paul Birmingham
329 Posted 02/09/2022 at 00:25:55
Mike @ 323, good research, and that’s a good insight on future planning for the goals in this Everton squad.

I’m sure that Frank, will in-still into his midfielders the desire, and necessity to score goals.

This season I think Evertons, midfield will start chipping in, with goals, and why not.

Desire, belief, play for the Everton shirt, it’s a no brainier.

These new signings, will help this drive to improve.

J Garner, looked very good at Forest, and for me at this early stage looks like a footballer, with the best blend of attack and defence skills.

But let’s see, how he does at Everton, but my hopes are high, for him, and I reckon he could start, and do well, right now.

More motivation for our current U21s, and U23s, competition is tough.


Brian Wilkinson
330 Posted 02/09/2022 at 00:27:53
I like what Everton have done, never blinked when bids for Gordon came in, had a price in mind for Diaz and didn’t pay the amount Blackburn wanted, they could lose him for nothing next summer so for once we have brought targets in, payment arrangements on our terms.

Shame we never brought another striker in, but overall a decent window.

Let’s hope those Days of paying huge transfer fees and wages are a thing of the past.

Lester Yip
331 Posted 02/09/2022 at 00:35:51
Agree Brian. Finally, got some sense back on the trading table. We've probably captured Diaz mind already (like how Barkley went to Chelsea). A pre-contract in Jan we might get him for free.

To revamp the team from back to front, firming up the spine of the team already showed we are harder to be scored against. Result will come eventually.


Ben King
332 Posted 02/09/2022 at 00:37:12
I like the window we had and in many many ways it was better than I expected

BUT we had ALL summer to strengthen our attack. All summer

And whilst I like Neal Maupay was he really the best we could get?

I understand that we need to pay within our budget but I think most fans would have sacrificed McNeill and 1 of Garner/Gana for a regular goalscorer

I can’t understand why that wasn’t a priority.

Surely Dennis from Watford could have been procured with a lower upfront payment? Surely one of our targets could have been procured

Clearly we put EVERYTHING on getting Broja last minute which was ridiculous folly

How do we not ever learn from our mistakes?

7/10 window for me…..relegation scrap is a real possibility/probability now

(We can’t keep clean sheets and we don’t score more than 1 goal a game… the maths)

Mike Gaynes
333 Posted 02/09/2022 at 00:39:05
Phil #310, sorry to contradict you, but I for one will strongly deny that Andre Gomes "possessed genuine quality when he first pulled on the Royal Blue". Having watched him dozens of times for Barcelona (whom I followed closely), I knew him to be a player whose undeniably silky skills produced absolutely nothing in terms of results. In 78 appearances and 3900 minutes of play for the greatest attacking machine in world football at the time, he had been involved in seven goals. Three goals, all tap-ins, and four assists, none of them memorable. 7 out of nearly 400 goals. And when the fans there had finally turned on him, he had hidden in his house for weeks in distress. I was deeply skeptical of his potential impact for us.

He did have a couple of excellent games when he started out for us, including the Pickford derby, but he quickly slid off the pace, and the popular belief that the injury ruined him just doesn't measure up to the facts. At the time it happened he had given us one goal and one assist in 35 games. The injury also had no impact on his proclivity for defensive blunders, particularly committing foolish fouls deep in our end. In his 100 appearances, Everton gave up, I believe, 7 goals off Gomes brain cramps. At the other end, he scored or assisted on 9.

I too wish him all the best, because by every account he is one of the nicest guys on the planet, but I am unreservedly glad that I will not see him play for us again.

Ernie Baywood
334 Posted 02/09/2022 at 00:53:54
Agree on Gomes. I don't have a bad word to say about the man, but it's been clear for some time that he can't play in this league.

Too slow, too haphazard with his passing. He's been a disaster for some time. I fell in love with the idea of this strong midfielder gliding with the ball and fizzing balls out to wingers but it's not him. He strikes a ball well - that's about it.

Good luck to him. Seems a good guy. He's making a very good living for him and his family. Can't be too critical of that.

Paul Birmingham
335 Posted 02/09/2022 at 00:54:45
Mike, well summarised regards Gomes.

A great human being, I met him in the early days, at Goodison, the first half of the Pickford Derby aside, and his missed header point blanked from 3 yards, in the first half of that game, for me, was concerning.

An appalling critical in jury in the middle regular, weekly injuries and Everton had big plans, helped his recovery in scope behind the scenes with internal friendlies at FInch Farm,.

But alas, Barca’s academy isn’t soft; he will never br a decent footballer, and I use my words well.

For me he was a Friday morning call, type plater, the calf, thigh, hammy, stomach strain, grapes, injury, player and it showed on the Park for Everton, and history will testify during the first half of the Palace home game, last season.

He stunk the place out, in the first half, and made no positive impact to Everton’s cause. There were numerous games like Palace, over his time at Everton.

But I wish him all the best of health and good fortune in his loan at Lille, and Everton, are a step closer hopefully to off loading him, for good.

Kieran Kinsella
336 Posted 02/09/2022 at 01:01:28
I honestly think Gomes was pound for pound the worst signing we’ve ever made. Right from the ger go he looked like a fish out of water in that Wolves game. One decent game pre injury (that we losr( and that was it for 30 million fee and 120k a week. Lovely man, yes. Naismith is a lovely man too, did much more for us and cost much less.
Mike Gaynes
337 Posted 02/09/2022 at 01:02:40
Certainly I understand the angst over our failure to bag a top-quality striker, but from my perspective it was still an excellent window. Of our eight new players, all but Vinagre are certain or likely starters at this point. and I'd say 7 of the 8 were good value for money (McNeil?). Four are age 23 or younger, and two are potential future stars. When was the last time we did business like this for a net spend of $35 million?

Regarding strikers, I can honestly say I wasn't excited about any of those we were connected to, including the five we reportedly made offers for and the one we signed. The simple fact is we couldn't afford a proven goalscorer unless we sold Gordon, and the past week made me glad we didn't.

Yes, goals will be harder to come by than we would like. But this is a much tougher and more competitive team than it was at the end of last season, and it's much closer to reflecting our manager's priorities and values. I like what we did. Very much.

Mike Gaynes
338 Posted 02/09/2022 at 01:08:26
Kieran #336, worst ever? No, I will never go that far as long as Schneiderlin still haunts my nightmares.
Kieran Kinsella
339 Posted 02/09/2022 at 01:21:25

I forgot about that clown

Danny Broderick
340 Posted 02/09/2022 at 01:22:27
I’m also wondering if we have enough goals for this squad to stay up. This is who I think will score league goals:

DCL = 10
Maupay = 10
Gray and Gordon = 10
All centre mids = 5
All defenders = 10

Pure speculation on my part, and I may be wrong. But I just don’t see much goal threat from most of our signings - even Maupay is not a goal scorer. I’ve seen nothing to suggest that McNeil, Garner, Gueye, Onana, Tarkowski, Coady and Vinagre will score many goals. Our season will probably hinge on DCL being fit, and the type of season he has. Fingers crossed it’s better than last year…

Christine Foster
341 Posted 02/09/2022 at 01:25:08
I'm glad thats done with, overall I guess its not brilliant but still pretty good (for us) we have managed to clear a lot out this season and bring in younger, better players in the shape of a team being made. So the transfer window for me is a 7/10, it would have been an 8 but for the lack of another striker (target man up front) just in case DCL has anymore issues. Gomes is sadly not suited to the Premier League, pace, speed of mind and the ability to step up a gear when needed just wasn't there from the off. I actually think he might do well in the French league, more his style. I wish him well, he has been a good ambassador for the club and a good all round bloke. Onwards an upwards on both sides. Interestingly I wonder where this leaves Tom Davies and Abdoulaye Doucouré with Onana, Garner, Gana, Iwobi all likely to be involved ahead of him?
So the pie in the sky money for Gordon wasn't real afterall, probably just a means of getting rid of the excess in Chelsea squad without paying for him..
Going forward, everyone fit we have a decent squad. Knocking on a Europa place is a possibility, but will still need to strengthen up top for a realistic go at Europe.. roll on Saturday.. I wonder who will be available?
Nick Page
342 Posted 02/09/2022 at 01:28:26
17th will be a win Christine. But I admire your optimism.
Danny O’Neill
343 Posted 02/09/2022 at 01:40:10
I personally wish Gomes well. I recall us being enthused by his early performances including an impressive one in the Derby at Anfield.

Shame. He's a talented player. I don't think he ever recovered from a bad injury. Certainly not from a mentality or confidence perspective. And another player who's Everton experience was characterised by a constantly changing and turbulent period.

We move on. I hope he does.

Worst player? I've seen some shockers in my life time. Much worse than Gomes.

Dave @313. I'm partly pleased that Warrington gets to play competitive football regularly to help his development. But partly sad he won't be closer to the Everton first team sooner than next year. I rate him, but guess with all the midfield signings, his chances this season will be limited. I understand Lampard spoke with him and explained that he is very much rated and has an Everton future.

Mike Gaynes
344 Posted 02/09/2022 at 01:47:55
Good to know, Danny. I rate him too.
Nick Page
345 Posted 02/09/2022 at 01:49:30
Did we sign a striker?
Jerome Shields
346 Posted 02/09/2022 at 01:50:04
There was that much to sort out that this transfer window was always going to fall short..
Lester Yip
347 Posted 02/09/2022 at 01:51:37
Apart from players out of contract, can we still borrow players from overseas?
David Cooper
348 Posted 02/09/2022 at 01:54:33
When I first saw Gomes play for us I thought, at last we have really creative player who is going to become a star on Merseyside. At that time, Tony, who was our facilities guy lived and breathed Portuguese football. Knowing that I was British, we often remenisced about Eusebio, World Cup 66 and how good Portugal was. After watching Andre Gomes start his EFC and before his injury, I told Tony how good a player he was. He point blank told me “Watch out! When he becomes comfortable, everything will disappear. He is a lazy so and so!” I was shocked and every time I saw Tony, I told him how well he was playing. You wait he said. Then came the injury, the quick rehab and his return to the team. Sadly we all know how this story ends. Tony retired and went back to his beloved Portugal.
I hope for Gomes sake, he makes a real go of it in the French League.
Danny O’Neill
349 Posted 02/09/2022 at 01:59:57
That's the talk Christine.

We're marching. Not just down the Goodison Road, but on to Europe.

Now you've started me!

Brian Wilkinson
350 Posted 02/09/2022 at 02:29:50
Decent transfer window for me.

Brian Wilkinson
351 Posted 02/09/2022 at 02:29:50
Ok we did not land a second striker, other than that we did pretty well elsewhere.

We tried to get Diaz but refused to pay Blackburns price, however with the World Cup in November, we have 13 games until the transfer window opens in January, with still 20 games remaining from the window opening.

Blackburn May rue not taking Evertons offer, because there is every chance in January, he will be able to sign a pre contract elsewhere, could be a smart move from Everton.

Calvert-Lewin will soon be close to a return and the November break will give him some rest in between.

With Chelsea getting Aubameyang so late in the window, there is every chance we can now go for Broja, loan from January with option to buy.

Come January we could bring in a striker, if we can somehow get Calvert -Lewin back for a few games before the break then we should be fine.

James Flynn
352 Posted 01/09/2022 at 02:43:38
Steavey (245) - "Everton can't survive another relegation scare without strikers. It's as simple as that.

Everton can't survive another relegation scare without. . . . . . . . dramatically reducing its last season's GA of 66, I'd say.

Do that, and we need "enough goals" to avoid another relegation scare.

Bill Gienapp
353 Posted 02/09/2022 at 02:55:26
An additional attacker would have put this window over the top, but the failure to do so shouldn't take away from the really quality business we did manage to do... particularly given that, a month ago, many on here were convinced that Tarkowski was going to be the only signing and that maybe we'd add some dud on loan at the deadline.

(on a side note, I noticed that many of the fans on social media who'd been castigating the club for financial mismanagement over the last several years were the same ones shrieking that we should just "suck it up" and pay whatever Rovers wanted for Diaz)

We succeeded in beefing up the defense and overhauling the midfield, which was no small feat. The new additions are a really nice blend of reliable veterans (Gueye, Coady, Tarkowski) and youngsters with potential (Onana, Garner, McNeil), all achieved within a much-needed framework of fiscal responsibility. There is, of course, a tremendous amount of pressure on keeping Calvert-Lewin fit moving forward, but otherwise I'm feeling pretty positive about the direction of things.

Fran Mitchell
354 Posted 02/09/2022 at 03:17:43
It is a shame we didn't get another attacker, but at the same time, I'm glad we didn't panic and sign anyone, and then be lumbered with them for 4 years and regretting the decision.

all the signings actually seem sensible and calculated.

We got a whole new midfield that immediately improves us as well as being exciting for the future.

we got a new backline that is immeasurably more solid than last season.

we lost Richy and have replaced with Maupay, which in terms of output is pretty much like for like, but with a lower bar in terms of potential.

Hopefully in January we will have targets lined up.

But after the horror or last season, this is as much of a first team turnover we could have expected.

Right back and 2 centre backs different from last season + a new back up/competition left back.

3 midfielders - two box-to-box no8s and a defensive midfield + a transformed Iwobi.

McNeil and Maupay and hopefully a fit DCL.

all of that should make the horror of last season a blip.

we now have a young squad, it won't work perfectly, but there is potential. If we are pacient things could actually start going on an upward trajectory.

Darryl Ritchie
355 Posted 02/09/2022 at 03:49:49
A bunch in.

A bunch out.

A striker would have made it better, but all in all, pretty good.

sean roe
356 Posted 02/09/2022 at 04:35:11
Reasonably happy with the players in although I can't help thinking that anyone who scores more than one goal against us will win the match. We still don't have any goalscorers.As a few others have said, I would've rather had another striker than Mc Neil.

My other concern is whether Lampard has the ability to turn what is most certainly a better group of players into a winning side.

Onwards and upwards!

Jim Bennings
357 Posted 02/09/2022 at 05:42:14
Decent defensive signings but one striker injury away all season from being up Shit Creek without a paddle.
Tony Hill
358 Posted 02/09/2022 at 06:23:19
I wonder whether we may get another forward in January. The World Cup affects the season of course so I can see that we may have a bit of flexibility.
Eddie Dunn
359 Posted 02/09/2022 at 07:20:30
Obviously there has been some proper scrutiny from Thelwell and Lampard and some very sensible recruitment has taken place.

Delighted we have Coady and Tarkovski and Gana and Garner will hopefully give us some cover in midfield.

I too am puzzled by the signing of McNeil. Another winger was not a priority. However, the lad did a good job versus Leeds and showed tenacity that I didn't expect.

Maupay will help but much now depends on how the likes of Gray and Gordon, not to mention our new best player Iwobi link -up with him.

Like Jim above, I am still wondering where our goals will come from. DCL won't be up to speed for a month or so and we are scrapping for draws.

It is sure to be a slog unless we can find some goals.

I guess that we would have had to sell Gordon to fund a classy striker and Frank made his mind up that he would rather stick with our starlet than gamble.

The best window I can remember though.

Bob Parrington
360 Posted 02/09/2022 at 07:27:53
Big Mistake to not have the added striker IMO.

Anybody know the situation with loans? Are they now closed also or is there still some chance from Europe or other overseas countries?

Jason Saggers
361 Posted 02/09/2022 at 07:33:28
If we had no money at this point of the season for an additional striker, how will we come January?
Andrew Ellams
362 Posted 02/09/2022 at 07:41:41
We definitely improved the defensive side of the team but we are a weaker team than last season up top. Richarlison out and Maupay in is a backwards move.

Burnley had the 9th best defensive record in the league last season but lack of goals on their side sent them down.

Sam Hoare
363 Posted 02/09/2022 at 07:43:32
Tarkowski: good signing. Good business. 8/10

Coady: durable player but remains to be see how he does long term in a back 4. 7/10

McNeil: not the goalscoring winger I wanted but very solid defensively and looks after ball well. 7/10

Onana: Exciting signing and good chance he becomes a real star. 9/10

Vinagre: Practical signing to offer cover, could be a good alternative to Mykolenko. 7/10

Maupay: Snide and hard working presence who should bag 8-10 goals. 7/10

Gana Gueye: Very useful return to bolster midfield and for only £2M. 9/10

Garner- £8M up front for one of the best midfielders in the Championship is good business. Not sure how big an impact he has now but an interesting young talent. 7/10

Overall a 6.5/10 for me as we lack crucial goals. Huge pressure on DCL to stay fit but at least we shouldn't be getting overrun in midfield quite so easily this season.

Keith Gleave
364 Posted 02/09/2022 at 08:12:59
We have one useless striker, Rondon, 2 goals a season. Maupay may get 10-15 if lucky and DCL could bag 20ish if he stays fit.

It’s really poor not to have brought another striker in, after all we have had since June.

Ian Bennett
365 Posted 02/09/2022 at 08:14:50
Don't think you can argue on the players let go. And the players brought in seem fairly good value.

Gana, Coady, Vinagre and Tarkowski for an outlay of £2m is great business. Nearly all will add steel & leadership to the team, whilst Vinagre adds cover for the first time since Baines/Digne.

Maupay is a decent enough player for £15m. He's Premier league proven, and seems a safesh signing. Onana has the tools to be a top player too.

Don't know enough on Garner, but £2m each year for the next 5 years seems to be another safesh investment based on his championship performances. You'd expect some decent performances and your cash returned as a minimum. It also Frees the door further to out Davies, Allan, and Gomes - whilst Doucoure is going to need to turn his performances around to get ahead of Onana, Iwobi, Gana.

McNeil I don't rate, but he has time on his side I guess. He does have a dangerous left foot strike and can cross the ball well. Some will say he's versatile and can play left wing, wing back, centrally or right wing. My response is he's as slow as hell, and is equally rubbish in most. But happy to proven wrong like Kilbane etc.

So it least the elephant in the room. The squad looks so improved compared to what I saw last season. Stronger, more runners, more leaders.

But we haven't replaced the loss of goals from Richarlison, James, Sigurdsson, Digne, a fit DCL (from when we finished 10th). We needed another striker, an injury to Maupay and the continuation of injuries under Dom leave us in massive trouble.

Overall B grade. If the players hit the ground running and Dom returns, it will look great. If we lose strikers we are going to look pretty poor. As ever our season will depend on the injury room staying clear.

Mark Ryan
366 Posted 02/09/2022 at 08:16:53
361, Jason, we can get Broja on loan if Chelsea are willing to let him leave
Michael Lynch
367 Posted 02/09/2022 at 08:20:10
Sam @363, yes, good analysis in my opinion.

Though I think we're a bit slow at the back which means a low block for most games, and possible an over-reliance on the ball over the top for Gordon, Gray or Maupay to run on to, which seems to be our only source of goals until DCL returns.

Midfield looks strong now, plenty of options and a good mix of ages/experience. Surely we'll be playing four at the back from now on so we can have a midfield three?

I'm glad Gomes has found a club that should give him some game time, and in a league possibly better suited for his skill set. I'm also glad we've kept Tom Davies who I still think is a useful option at times.

Brian Murray
368 Posted 02/09/2022 at 08:26:14
Keep hearing this mad notion Gomes was somehow a Zidane before his injury. He wasn't and let us down with the usual suspects, Schneiderlin etc.

Nice man nice hair very Everton. Not any more we have a nasty streak now and a Frank as we have seen stands up to that grinning twat over the park.

Michael Lynch
369 Posted 02/09/2022 at 08:26:31
Also, Chelsea spent the most ever by a Premier Club in a single window, and still look shit.
Martin Clark
370 Posted 02/09/2022 at 08:31:24
Agreed Sam,

Shame we didn't get one of the linked attackers in.

We have some solid options in midfield at least and defence if they recover and stop having such bad luck with injuries.

Raymond Fox
371 Posted 02/09/2022 at 08:39:34
Agree with the common view that we look solid in midfield and defence and will be hard to score against, also that there’s an absence of creativity and threat going forward.

How that works out remains to be seen.

Joe McMahon
372 Posted 02/09/2022 at 08:47:28
Like others have said, we have improved in all areas apart from the entertainment end. As DCL is seen as our main striker, somehow all crosses need to be around the 6 yard box. I'd have preferred to fund some mug to sign him weeks ago and land a proven (all round) striker.

Aw well, let's just hope our manager doesn't have us hanging on to one goal leads for the rest of the season.

Andy Walker
373 Posted 02/09/2022 at 08:52:57
We needed another striker. DCL now has a big question mark over his ability to stay fit for a season. Maupay average at best and Rondon…..

Another long, hard season ahead. Relegation battle awaits.

Raymond Fox
374 Posted 02/09/2022 at 09:04:17
Just looked at the relegation betting, its Bounemouth, Forest and us as the most likely to go down.
So a outside view is not that impressed with our prospects.
Ciarán McGlone
375 Posted 02/09/2022 at 09:07:25
Interesting suggestion Mr Gaynes that all the new boys (vinagre apart) start..

How many players you starting.. 13?

Maupay gets a nod while DCLs out but Garner and McNeil are definitely bench warmers.

Brian Harrison
376 Posted 02/09/2022 at 09:17:15
So until the window opens again in Jan we have Maupay, DCL and Rondon as our main striker options. Whether Lampard was so desperate to get Broja he was prepared to gamble to the last day of the window, as Maupay was bought I think in case he couldnt get Broja. I just hope that when DCL comes back he will be able to play the majority of games, as if he breaks down again then we are reliant on Maupay or McNeil, Gordon or Gray in the false 9 role. Certainly Gueye will make a big difference to midfield and will be a great help to Onana, I just hope Lampard plays Gueye in the middle of the 3 and not Onana. Also Garner seems to have impressed many, but you do wonder seeing all the players Forest have signed that they didnt try for Garner who was on loan there last season.
James Marshall
377 Posted 02/09/2022 at 09:21:21

Forest already have Dean Henderson on loan from Man Utd. You're only allowed one loanee from another Premier League club so they couldn't loan Garner as well.

Andrew Clare
378 Posted 02/09/2022 at 09:25:47
Lampard has put a good strong side together. No complaints there but no striker?
Even a duff team can nick games if they have a top class striker- they are so important.
My fear is that we will play well in games but fail to score and wind up losing.
Overall the team now looks much better especially if DCL returns soon and stays fit.
Brian Harrison
379 Posted 02/09/2022 at 09:34:27
James 377,

I wasn't suggesting Forest extend Garner's loan. I was asking why didn't they buy him seeing he played in the majority of their games last season, and at £12 million seemed a no-brainer for them.

Lee Robinson
380 Posted 02/09/2022 at 09:37:57
I am very happy with the signings, especially Garner. In one transfer window the squad has been transformed, it's stronger, promising and has some leaders in there.

I like the way Frank and Kevin have managed to ship out players on big wages and saved £10M on Dele, places in the squad that aren't being used and replacing them with young hungry players who will be.

It's probably only Rondon, Keane and Allan who he doesn't fancy in the squad, who are solid pro's who may need to be called upon.

As many have said, I am concerned also with the lack of goals in the side. I don't think Calvert-Lewin is the striker many think he is and a lot of pressure is on him when he returns. I can't understand why we didn't get a loan option.

Also disappointed Warrington went out on loan. With 5 subs I'd have liked to see him used more and in cups rather than another season in league 1. He's 19 and better on the ball than we already have.

Good news is though I think we have a really good base now to build on in the next few windows.

Steve Shave
381 Posted 02/09/2022 at 09:38:08
It has been an interesting window.

I haven't read every comment on here but there is a notable lack of interest in what the hell we are going to do with all these midfielders, Allan in particular. I was expecting him to go and he hasn't. I like him as a player but it seems for some reason Frank doesn't, never plays him, it's weird.

It has crossed my mind there is an agreement in place for a Saudi or Chinese team to take him as their window's are open longer, perhaps Turkey? If he stays that's a lot of midfielders to keep happy.

Pedro would have been the icing on the cake but it didn't come off, maybe we will identify our top target between now and then. We can assume the money is there because of our offer for Pedro.

Overall I am really pleased, too many midfielders but we certainly has a strong spine, some real tenacity. Allan to go for a fee (anything north of £5-6M) in next couple of weeks would be the icing on the cake.

George Cumiskey
382 Posted 02/09/2022 at 09:41:10
Why is everyone worried about a striker?

As one ToffeeWeber said, with this midfield, we won't have to score many goals to win matches!

Ha ha, you couldn't make it up!

Jason Saggers
383 Posted 02/09/2022 at 09:41:23
Mark @366, that's one huge 'if'.
James Marshall
384 Posted 02/09/2022 at 09:43:49
Brian 379

Maybe the player wanted to go somewhere other than Forest? He's from Birkenhead and been at Utd since he was about 6 or something, so perhaps it's as much a location issue as anything else.

Maybe he didn't want to play for a promoted team. There are so many reasons why he might not have wanted to stay at Forest - I don't think it's as simple as just Forest not wanting him. Nothing is ever that black & white.

Steve Brown
385 Posted 02/09/2022 at 09:44:42
Brian, Forest enquired earlier in the summer and were told Garner wasn't going to be sold or loaned out again.

Given the shit-show at the start of this season from Man Utd, they decided they needed to invest in Casemiro and couldn't give Garner the phased development into the team that they intended. They also needed funds in quickly given they invested more than intended in certain areas of the squad, therefore they sacrificed a young high potential squad member.

Basically, the sort of dismal recruitment approach that Evertonians have grown accustomed to over the last 6 years.

James Marshall
386 Posted 02/09/2022 at 09:57:46
I don't see the so-called absence of attacking threat from our squad. We were pretty much a one-man team last season with Richarlison – not a sustainable model, and in fact, him leaving could be a good thing in a sense.

Gordon has stepped up this season, and looks like a much more threatening player than he did last season because he's being given confidence and responsibility by the manager. Gray looks in decent form and Iwobi moving to central midfield could be the making of him. He just gets lost out wide.

To say those 3 carry no attacking threat is simply not true and with Onana in behind we looked decent the other night, albeit without a striker. Football has evolved, Everton hasn't, but finally we look as though we have a management team who understand this, and are trying to put together a squad that can compete, play different formations, and actually be effective at all of them. Of course it doesn't happen overnight, but I see a massive difference in our play, our attitude and aptitude from last season's mess.

We also now have a team full of experience and leadership, plus a solid defence and midfield - the best teams don't always have all the best players. Look at Leicester a few years ago as a good example. It was about blend & balance.

Calvert-Lewin, Maupay and Rondon – okay, they aren't Messi, Mbappe and Neymar but there is a blend there, and when you look at the midfield as well, there are options - exactly what the manager wants.

I've never rated Maupay for what it's worth, but I'm willing to give him (and Lampard) the benefit of the doubt until I've at least seen him play a few games!

Lee Robinson
387 Posted 02/09/2022 at 10:06:36
Well said James, and I agree in most parts. Particularly around Richarlison. He wasn't as prolific as people made out and tended not to link up well with who we had up front.

I do think Gordon steps up to his role and already has 2 for the season. I just think we are a good Number 9 from a very solid side who can comfortably sit in mid table. Newcastle have Isaak (who looks perfect), Wilson and Wood as options, guaranteed goals and attacking threat, we have Calvert-Lewin.

For what it's worth though I do rate Maupay (more of a 10) and will hopefully be a good addition.

John Raftery
388 Posted 02/09/2022 at 10:08:22
I am also happy with the window. Of course Richarlison is missed and we were never likely to find a replacement of his quality. Over the 4 years we had him, he partially masked serious deficiencies elsewhere in the squad, most notably in defence and central midfield.

Those deficiencies have been addressed in this window and we have Maupay to be a pain in the backside for opposition defences as well as score a few goals. I think we are in a much stronger position overall compared with where we were 12 months ago. It will take time for them to gel but the younger players we have acquired in this calendar year have the potential to develop into top players.

While they are doing so the experience of Coady, Tarkowski and Gana will make us much harder to beat. No longer will we be the soft touch we have been for several seasons. Onana and Garner will be exciting players to watch in midfield while Patterson and Mykolenko will offer attacking width as wingbacks. Patterson also showed at Elland Road he can perform the defensive role effectively.

While it would have been great to acquire a top class striker I think it made more sense to improve the squad as a whole. For the first time since 2013, there has been a coherence about the recruitment which leaves me feeling more optimistic than I expected to be two months ago.


Peter Carpenter
389 Posted 02/09/2022 at 10:45:39
The best thing about this window? Telling Chelsea to do one over Gordon. He is better than both Broja and Gallagher and will get better still. Yes, they may be back but that's for later. Chelsea found out that they couldn't just wave their cheque book and get everything they want. I would love it if they went bust, love it! Can't stand them - poison to English football. Won next to nothing before the Russian crook turned up with stolen money - horrible Tory celebrity supporters (Major, Mellor, Coe) - obnoxious cheats Terry, Mourinho - think they are some kind of European royalty. Bollocks to them.
Feeling slightly optimistic this morning. Hope it lasts beyond 2.30pm tomorrow.
Oh, and BMD beginning to look like a football stadium. It's going to be fantastic.
Tony Everan
390 Posted 02/09/2022 at 11:01:50
There maybe a simple answer to the recurring “Why didn’t Forest buy James Garner” question. It’s possible they sounded him out and his said he didn’t want to go back. That would have put an end to it. The lad probably wanted to get into the Man Utd team, but they’ve signed their galactico and his game time would have been minimal.

Also his agent will have been well aware there was interest from bigger and better clubs than Notts Forest. So the strategy would have been, see what the opportunities are with the new manager at Manchester. If the path looks blocked, a move to a bigger, more established Premier League club than Forest is nailed on.

Garner said he was buzzing to be working with Frank Lampard and how he can improve his game with his help . So just maybe over the summer he has had one eye on this transfer being a possibility for him .

They’ve made the right decisions. I think we are lucky to have him.

Joe McMahon
391 Posted 02/09/2022 at 11:08:08
Tony @390,

I do agree but you are a bit harsh on twice European Cup winners Nottm Forest. Yes, not big recently, but neither are Everton.

Tony Everan
392 Posted 02/09/2022 at 11:43:31
Yes Joe, a bit harsh, I’ve got a soft spot for them, my late father in law was a season ticket holder, so I’ve been indoctrinated over many years. They have a fabulous almost legendary history under Cloughie. I was thinking more of the 23 seasons in the Championship and League one.

They’ve just submitted plans to the local council to completely modernise and expand the stadium so things are looking up. No wonder they are trying everything to make this promotion stick.

Joe McMahon
393 Posted 02/09/2022 at 11:49:40
Agreed Tony, and they have been spending like mad, if they do get relegated (the wage bill may be an issue). I do want then to stay up, but not at our expense.

The Everton midfield is looking so much better,I'll give Thelwall that!. Makes me wonder if negotiations could have been more "Levy" with PSG then we could have offered more for Brereton Diaz. Too late now, just wish the Derby was a few more weeks away.

Geoff Lambert
394 Posted 02/09/2022 at 11:58:37
Garner could be our best signing this window. My mate who is a mad Man Utd supporter is gutted as are the majoriy on his Utd forum that he has left.
They were all championing for him to be starting ahead of McFred and Mctomtom as he calls them. He says he has watched a good few of their youngsters and him and Greenwood were miles ahead of the others from an early age. Silky smooth on the ball pinpoint crosses and can put in a tackle as well.
Sounds good to me. COYB
Dave Abrahams
395 Posted 02/09/2022 at 12:16:04
Another late signing just announced : James Vaughan is the new Loans Pathway Manager, not sure f he has had any previous experience in this job,welcome back to the club James!!
Dave Abrahams
396 Posted 02/09/2022 at 12:19:40
By the way, I think Lewis Warrington's loan transfer is not for twelve months but only until January.
John Raftery
397 Posted 02/09/2022 at 13:35:17
We were strongly linked with James Garner in early June, as were Forest. It appears the delay was principally because Man Utd were assessing their options in the market.

Forest decided they could not afford to wait and looked elsewhere. Thelwell was more patient. Time will tell if he was right but Garner's career trajectory suggests he has the pedigree to develop into a successful Premier League player.

Barry Jones
398 Posted 02/09/2022 at 14:18:56
I'm not sure why everyone is trashing McNeil. He's a fabulous player and will show it over the course of the season. Give him a chance, for Christ's sake! In my opinion, way better than Gray. I don't hear the Iwobi bashers anymore.
Steve Shave
399 Posted 02/09/2022 at 14:28:44
Agree Barry @398, McNeil is the new whipping boy and some won't be happy until they have bashed any confidence out of him. He's 22, played a few games for us and will get better. Real supporters get behind their players not beat them down.

Derek Taylor
400 Posted 02/09/2022 at 14:33:05
Several news sources saying Thelwell could only go for a £15M bid for Blackburn's Diaz when the price required was £5M more.

Makes me think Lampard is being more than a little arrogant to believe we can stay out of the relegation battle with only Calvert-Lewin as a genuine striker. I hardly think Brighton's cast-off fits that bill.

John Keating
401 Posted 02/09/2022 at 14:33:48
Overall not a bad window; however, I do think we are a striker light. Problem was, to get one, we would have had to sell Gordon.

Fingers crossed the incomers can gel with other players and Lampard's ideas quickly. We need to start getting points on the board asap.

Jamie Crowley
402 Posted 02/09/2022 at 14:47:17
I personally think this window was a 8.5 out of 10.

We basically overhauled the entire squad, strengthened defense with solid, hard-working veterans, bought 3 players under 21 who not only have huge upside, but also improved us immediately, and did it all relatively cheaply.

I think this was the second-best window Everton have had in my time, behind the Barry, McCarthy, Lukaku window under Martinez.

We did amazing business and Thelwell should be commended.

Really happy.

Ajay Gopal
403 Posted 02/09/2022 at 15:04:16
I think the 3 injuries at CB affected the funds available to buy a striker. I am pretty certain Thelwell wanted to sell 1 out of Mina / Keane, and use that to bolster the transfer kitty. If Godfrey and Holgate were to come back by the Jan window, I can see Keane being sold for a decent amount (20 million?) and we could use that to buy a striker.

I am happy with the business done - honestly, I would have been happy with Tarkowski, Onana, Gueye and Maupay. But to add Coady, McNeil, Vinagre and Garner to that makes this quite a major overhaul with some shrewd financial jugglery to get around the FFP restrictions. Especially considering that we lost only one 1st team player in Richarlison. At the beginning of the window, I was resigned to losing 2 out of Pickford, Calvert-Lewin and Richarlison. Add to that, the growing emergence of Gordon and Patterson, and the revival of Iwobi and Holgate (before his injury) means that I am quite optimistic that we should be a competitive team that other teams in the league hate to play against. I won’t get carried away and predict our final position in the league, but I would be happy if we were to avoid relegation worries this season, and build from the squad that we have now.

Danny Broderick
404 Posted 02/09/2022 at 15:32:49
The recruitment has been solid and safe - much better than what we got under Walsh and Brands.

Tarkowski - solid, low risk, free.
Coady - solid, low risk, only a loan fee.
Vinagre - good reputation, potential, only a loan fee.
Gueye - tried and tested, only a loan fee.
Garner - good pedigree, potential and price.
Onana - big money but has all the attributes to succeed here. Good reputation and potential.
McNeil - decent money and has decent potential, but the jury is out on this one.
Maupay - good squad player. Will chip in with goals without ever being the main man.

The concern is DCL, Maupay and Rondon up front, but then the rest of the squad is now fairly solid. I had a thought back to 95 when we won the cup, and our strikers were Big Dunc, Rideout, Amokachi and Stuart. None of them were particularly prolific and they all had their ups and downs at Everton. And then Rideout stepped up and scored something like 15/16 goals. Hopefully DCL or Maupay can get a similar figure this year, but there is no doubt we are a little bit light up front, especially if Maupay and DCL get knocks…

Michael Kenrick
405 Posted 02/09/2022 at 15:32:57
Dave @396,

Thanks for the heads-up, Dave. Always good to check these things...

"Midfielder Lewis Warrington has joined Fleetwood Town on loan for the remainder of the 2022-23 season."

That's from the horse's mouth, aka official website. And they never get owt wrong,

Mike Gaynes
406 Posted 02/09/2022 at 15:49:18
John #388, I would argue that Richarlison has already been fully replaced. Gordon is now playing almost exactly the same role. And at the moment he certainly looks the part of a 10-goal scorer.

Barry #398, way better than Gray? McNeil hasn't scored a goal in a year and a half. Has only seven in his entire career, one less than Gray has scored for us in 13 months. What I've seen of McNeil's passing so far has likewise not impressed me. His defensive workrate is absolutely brilliant, but I'm not sure that makes him a good buy.

Ajay #403, I think that's a very good point about the center backs and the transfer kitty.

Brian Hennessy
407 Posted 02/09/2022 at 16:04:39
If I am not mistaken we have 12 games to play before the next transfer window.

DCL obviously not going to feature tomorrow and will take some time to get up to speed. If we can get 8 games or so out of him before the window I think we will be doing well. Much is going to depend on how well Maupay does for us.

Dave Abrahams
408 Posted 02/09/2022 at 16:10:52
Michael (405) sorry about that Michael, I got the information from another thread who said he “ thought” that the move was only ‘til January so I’m glad you were able to check and get the correct deal.
Ian Bennett
409 Posted 02/09/2022 at 16:23:28
I an surprised Keane didn't push for a move tbh.

He's behind Coady, Tarkowski, Godfrey, Mina, Holgate, Coleman, Mykolenko in the pecking order. I thought he would want out given Frank has little to no faith in him.

A Southampton type club would have taken him?

Dale Self
410 Posted 02/09/2022 at 16:52:51
I agree with Jamie on the higher marks for the window. Given the rep that Everton had Thelwell has us looking like a respectable club with a decent core of hard working lads. Gana and Onana in front of Tark and Coady is a formidable defensive core. Myko and Patterson are more than finding their way. Basically that defence allows Iwobi freedom of movement and as we saw vs Leeds he is a force coming back to defend when he can just swoop in for the steal or stick in a foot. Onana has enough presence to know to just get the ball distributed and already is impressing with his positioning and ball control.

We did well. I will be raising a glass to Thelwell many times this season for assembling a squad I think I can get behind in a nostalgic way that will heal what we've been through.

John McFarlane Snr
411 Posted 02/09/2022 at 17:22:44
Hi Barry [398] & Steve [399],

I agree with both of you, for some reason there are some 'supporters'? who appear to crave for someone to criticise. There are some players I'm not particularly fond of but they receive my support. I believe that anyone who plays professional football at whatever level can do just that: "Play Football".

From my seat in the Park End, I hear cries of "Player X, you're crap" or words to that effect. I understand the frustrations that football can produce at the match, but what I don't understand is the vitriol of the written word some time after the event, when all it needs is "I think that Player X is not good enough."

Alec Gaston
412 Posted 02/09/2022 at 17:52:05
Ian 409 the club had offers for Keane (from Forest and West Ham) but turned them down because of the injuries to Godfrey, Mina and Holgate – I suspect he may go in January.

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