Newcastle United vs Everton

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Everton travel to the North East for another difficult away assignment, this time at sixth-placed Newcastle but Frank Lampard has revealed that at least one player will be available again in addition to Anthony Gordon.

Gordon served a one-match suspension when the Blues played and lost to Tottenham on Saturday so he will be eligible while Mason Holgate is set to return to the Everton squad having recovered from a knee injury sustained against Brentford in late August.

However, Yerry Mina, who has been out for even longer, will not be returning with him as the Colombian suffered a setback in his rehabilitation last week. 

Andros Townsend and Nathan Patterson are still out with longer-term injuries, while Ben Godfrey has resumed running as he works his way back to full fitness after breaking a tibia just 10 minutes into the new season on the opening day against Chelsea.

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Meanwhile, Lampard says that he and his staff are still taking a cautious approach with Dominic Calvert-Lewin as they continue to ease him back into the team after a year of injury frustration.

The striker has endured a stop-start comeback from the serious quad muscle injury he sustained in August last year, managing just 15 Premier League starts in 2021-22 before a knee injury sidelined him just days before the current campaign kicked off.

Calvert-Lewin has been nursed through an individualised training regime over the past few weeks and made his first appearance of the season as a substitute against Manchester United 10 days ago.

He came off the bench with 25 minutes to go at Tottenham on Saturday and though his manager hinted that he is getting closer to starting, he might not be ready to be named in the starting XI at St James’s Park.

“We’ve got to be careful with Dominic coming back in terms of his training and that we gradually bring him in as quick as possible. It’s a fine balance that one but he is certainly getting to the stage [where he can be starting].

“We have two games in three days coming up so hopefully we can get more minutes out of him.”

If, as expected, Calvert-Lewin isn't risked from the start, Lampard is going to have to get more offensive production out of a team that has scored just eight goals in 10 matches.

Whether that is shuffling his formation to a back three that would afford Seamus Coleman a rest and deploy Alex Iwobi at wing-back or reorganising midfield in some other way, the manager needs to find solutions, particularly with Neal Maupay looking so isolated and, therefore, ineffective in North London three days ago.

If there are developments working in Everton's favour it's that two of Eddie Howe's star attackers, £60m signing Alexander Isak and disruptive winger Allan Saint-Maximin, are both ruled out, as is roving hatchet man Jonjo Shelvey who has got away with a dreadful challenge or two in this fixture down the years.

The Magpies have Bruno Guimarães pulling strings in midfield, predatory goalscorer Callum Wilson up front along with current top marksman, the resurgent Miguel Almiron, but they can be vulnerable defensively.

A mixture of Saturday's patient approach and the way Lampard instructed his men to go about the Brentford and Leeds game could be successful and, perhaps, earn the Blues a result to take back to Goodison Park this weekend against Crystal Palace.

Kick-off: 7:30 pm, Wednesday 19 October 2022
Last Time: Newcastle United 3 - 1 Everton

Predicted Line-up: Pickford, Holgate, Coady, Tarkowski, Mykolenko, Gueye, Iwobi,  Onana, Gordon, Gray, Maupay


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Clive Rogers
1 Posted 18/10/2022 at 10:50:25
Calvert-Lewin will obviously be on the bench.

But surely Garner, Calvert-Lewin and Gordon have to start?

Kunal Desai
2 Posted 18/10/2022 at 10:54:38
Can't see us taking anything here, similar to Spurs, I'm afraid.

Need to pick up 6/7 points from the next four fixtures before we sign off.

John Keating
3 Posted 18/10/2022 at 11:13:12
Amazed if we get anything here and it wouldn't surprise me to see Calvert-Lewin miss out again.Lampard may think to play him in the next 4 – on paper – winnable games.

Palace, Fulham, Leicester and Bournemouth sound potential 3 pointers – famous last words... But, if we don't get at least 7 points from them, then I'm afraid it'll be flares and supporters back outside the ground every week.

Will Mabon
4 Posted 18/10/2022 at 11:13:45

I'm still regarding Newcastle as being a slightly lesser task than Spurs. I think we have more chance tomorrow albeit not a huge one. Not keen on a fully negative set-up but we need to not lose.

The performance we gave at Spurs, first half at least, would serve well, if we could somehow find some finishing.

Jim Bennings
5 Posted 18/10/2022 at 11:21:51
I can't understand how Calvert-Lewin has been training on a daily and weekly basis now for how long and yet he's still not ready to start and play about an hour of football.

We need to start being braver in our decision-making in front of goal, you don't need loads of touches to get a shot away, Iwobi proved that against Man Utd.

We need to start getting more men in support of the forward also, it's no use isolating Maupay or Calvert-Lewin and just hitting crosses.

Eddie Dunn
6 Posted 18/10/2022 at 11:47:45

I can't see our conservative manager starting Dominic. He looked way off the pace, mistimed nearly all his jumps, and is clearly short of fitness.

It's going to be several weeks of patient introduction before he starts. Frank will be after a point.

Robert Williams
7 Posted 18/10/2022 at 12:05:23
How long before we can officially get rid of Calvert-Lewin?
Clive Rogers
8 Posted 18/10/2022 at 12:35:46
Eddie, you’re probably right, but at some point he needs to start. You only get fully match fit by playing.
John Keating
9 Posted 18/10/2022 at 12:53:41
Fully agree, Clive,

If you're fit enough to train every day and sit on the bench, then you should be able to put in some minutes on the pitch.

The World Cup and its time out is fast approaching and we need to get some points on the board.

Surely a half-fit Calvert-Lewin is as good as what we have at present showing up front?

Christy Ring
10 Posted 18/10/2022 at 13:00:42
We had two great chances in the first half against Spurs, the penalty and to be honest Richarlison being replaced, turned the game.

I hope we don't play 5 at the back again, McNeil is not a wingback, and Mykolenko is not a centre-back. We need Calvert-Lewin back, but our medical staff have to have the final say. Asking when can we officially get rid of him, a bit much in my opinion.

Watching Sky Sports earlier, showed some of the Newcastle press conference, Moyes as well, and went to Anfield to discuss their upcoming conference and never even mentioned Lampard's press conference?

Paul Washington
11 Posted 18/10/2022 at 13:13:35
It seems to me that we loose games in runs of 2 or 3 instead of a single defeat.

No doubt St Maxim will have his usual excellent display against us then be average for a long spell afterwards.

We have got to get something from this before confidence is blown totally.

Geoff Lambert
12 Posted 18/10/2022 at 14:19:40
If Calvert-Lewin is fit, play him; if he is not fit, leave him out the squad and put one of the kids on the bench. Has he lost his confidence?

We never get much up at the Geordies' place and I'm not expecting much tomorrow. If Holgate is fit, I would go with him at right-back and Vinagre at left-back. Two centre-backs as is.

Give Garner a start in the middle, with Guye in front of back four Gordon and Gray out wide Iwobi and Onana either side of Garner and (if fit) Calvert-Lewin up top. Need points on the board or it's back to a Bottom-3 fight again.

Tony McDonald
13 Posted 18/10/2022 at 14:34:42
Geoff (12) - nice team, but that's 12. I wish...
Geoff Lambert
14 Posted 18/10/2022 at 14:37:55
Iwobi or Onana!! Haha!
Jim Bennings
15 Posted 18/10/2022 at 14:39:48
So as we all guessed in summer, we have wasted half a season on putting our faith in the "when Calvert-Lewin is fit" basket.

We should have signed a proper bloody centre-forward in August.

Geoff Lambert
16 Posted 18/10/2022 at 14:40:08
Do we need a keeper??
Mike Gaynes
17 Posted 18/10/2022 at 14:51:11
Jim, you don't think we tried? We were seriously connected with half a dozen of them. Which of them do you think we should have or could have signed?

We bought Maupay because he was the best we could do at the time. We will do better in January.

Bill Gall
18 Posted 18/10/2022 at 14:56:05
We seem to get enough players injured in training, that it seems strange that we have a player who is fit, in a position where we are weak in, sitting on the bench for a 20-minute appearance. We need goals and Calvert-Lewin can score if given the chance, not trying to get back in the game but from the beginning.

Newcastle are building a good team but will be missing a couple of key players. They have tall central defenders and need a player like Calvert-Lewin to cause them problems from long balls to crosses.

Playing at home with the crowd behind them, Newcastle are not the sort of team that you base your game on defense hoping for a breakaway.

Maupay is not the scorer we hoped for. Calvert-Lewin will want to get in the England team for the World Cup; his time is limited, so he has to prove he is both fit and capable of scoring. Sitting on the bench with limited time to play will definitely reduce his chances.

Jim Bennings
19 Posted 18/10/2022 at 14:57:28

Trying isn't enough, though.

Maupay is a decent player provided that you play football like Brighton did under Graham Potter; he's not going to prosper with balls pinged to his head.

Even if Calvert-Lewin was not injured, we still needed more firepower than just Maupay.

We are not and have not been a side that has an abundance of goal-scoring talents in the attack, so I'm peeved off we waited so long in summer to try and solve this.

John Keating
20 Posted 18/10/2022 at 15:29:10
The World Cup being mentioned, well, I would love Calvert-Lewin to be in the England squad; however, Everton is far more important than England.

Being no expert, I just repeat, if you can be on the bench then you should be able to play.

We have 5 games until the break; if Calvert-Lewin can't play, then don't put him in the squad. Write him off until the Premier League starts up again.

If he can't play then he really is finished, and unless we have some money to buy, maybe we will be too.

Stephen Vincent
21 Posted 18/10/2022 at 15:32:05
I am really starting to think that we should be looking for a quality centre-forward that Calvert-Lewin can be back up for and not for a centre-forward as back up for Calvert-Lewin.

All depends on budget, I suppose.

Sean Kelly
22 Posted 18/10/2022 at 15:45:22
Spot on, Stephen. We need a leader as a number 9. If Calvert-Lewin isn't capable of staying fit we need to bench him BBC and start looking for a proper Number 9.
Sean Kelly
23 Posted 18/10/2022 at 15:45:59
Jay Harris
24 Posted 18/10/2022 at 15:47:21
Frank really needs to rethink his team selection and tactics for this one. Newcastle are a high-press team, unlike Spurs, who hit you on the break.

No defensive shit for this one; we need players further forward to enable out balls and not sideways and backwards passing and no bottling by Pickford.

The good news is St Maxim isn't fit, reducing red card potential... :)

This is a winnable game IMO but we need to get it right and play only with the players who do not bottle it.

Over to you SuperFrank.

Brent Stephens
25 Posted 18/10/2022 at 16:04:31
Sean - Big Bloused Chucklehead?
Mike Gaynes
26 Posted 18/10/2022 at 16:11:13
Jim, I don't think we "waited" one minute in the summer. We were linked to strikers from the minute last season ended.

Some were too expensive, some weren't going to be interested in Everton, some just weren't good enough. But I don't believe for a minute that Kevin and Frank were sitting around all summer doing nothing.

Who would you have signed if you could? Dennis? Brereton-Diaz? Broja?

Tony Everan
27 Posted 18/10/2022 at 16:17:10
Isak not fit either, the barcodes are doing ok but they are not on Tottenham's level. I don't think anyone need write us off. Maybe Calvert-Lewin was rested on Saturday so he could be starting tomorrow. Starting two games in four days was never going to happen.

As for the team, I think we need look to start Garner and lose a winger, especially against top six or tough away games. It's just possible that Garner could end up with a more goals and assists tally than one of our wingers anyway, playing from a midfield position. When he is starting regularly that is.

Jim Bennings
28 Posted 18/10/2022 at 16:37:07
I agree, it's time that see what James Garner can do.

He has experienced the Championship and won promotion with Nottingham Forest, that's a league of hardship.

He looked technically accomplished in the games I've seen him play and I fear picking the same midfield tomorrow night just result in more passing up of possession with sloppy play.

Jim Bennings
29 Posted 18/10/2022 at 16:40:15

Not sure but it always smacks of our chairman, the old let's make some late moves with two hours of the transfer window remaining.

I wasn't convinced by Dennis to be honest.

I'd have put a punt on Diaz, good age, international footballer, knows British football and his style of play probably more suited to us.

Broja on loan made sense, try before you buy but, for whatever reason, that didn't materialize.

Mick Conalty
30 Posted 18/10/2022 at 17:17:12
Robert #7
We cannot get rid of DCL.
Lampard needs him as an excuse.
The fact that he is not available is why we are
2 points of the bottom 3.
Isn't that right Frank.
Sean Kelly
31 Posted 18/10/2022 at 17:38:27
Brent I might be a chucklehead but I wouldnt look good in a blouse. I will leave that for Tom or DCL.
Brent Stephens
32 Posted 18/10/2022 at 17:43:32
Sean, I wasn't applying the acronym to you, mate!
Dale Self
33 Posted 18/10/2022 at 17:46:46
Agreed Tony, tighten up the midfield since we largely create chances on the break. If Frank would go look at old Burnley film and figure out how to use McNeil on the left we could be tough to break down. Get someone on the inside of him and his one-footedness won't be such a liability. I'm not convinced by Neaucastle but Guimares does concern me. I think we should play to frustrate and take what we can get first half. If it goes to the late show I would be careful introducing DCL on the road, if we are getting possession on the wing maybe with ten minutes left.
Sean Roe
34 Posted 18/10/2022 at 17:47:03
I fancy a draw out of this and then two wins to follow.

Mike Gaynes
35 Posted 18/10/2022 at 17:49:39
Jim and Tony, I'd love to see Garner get a start tomorrow in Gana's spot, but it doesn't seem likely.

Jim, rumor has us scouting Brereton-Diaz for a January bid. We were one of a half-dozen teams in for him over the summer, and we (and others) reportedly bid £12 million, but Blackburn wanted £15 million and none of the suitors were willing to pay that price. They all look foolish now as Brereton-Diaz has scored 7 in 15.

Sean Kelly
36 Posted 18/10/2022 at 17:51:18
Phew thanks Brent
Peter Hodgson
37 Posted 18/10/2022 at 18:07:56
Jim @ 5,15, 19 & others,

In my view, are not getting anywhere near the truth about Calvert-Lewin and his injury/return – and haven't had the truth right from the start.

Mike @26,

I think you are right in saying we didn't wait until the end of the window to do something about a man up front. Problem was (our Chairman here I think must have got involved) we were looking for a Messi at a Tosun price. Never going to happen, was it!

In other words, we placed all our bets on Calvert-Lewin and had no intention to sign a decent striker during the summer but were forced, because we realised too late, that Calvert-Lewin wasn't going to be our saving grace, and we paid too much money for what we could get at the last minute.

It will be interesting to see what happens in January. Until then, don't expect to see many goals, so the downward trend is likely to continue.

Dave Cashen
38 Posted 18/10/2022 at 18:16:26
A few short months ago. Everybody was talking about Eddie Howe's massively improved team coming to The Old Lady to sweep aside our Shambles of an outfit.

Remind me, Was it just the ten men we beat them with ?

I'm sick of hearing about the great Geordie revolution. These deluded fuckers actually think they will win the league every year.

We'll do them again tomorrow. The only thing anyone wearing blue has to fear is those fucking stairs.

Mike Gaynes
39 Posted 18/10/2022 at 18:16:54
Peter, I share the widespread TW perception that we overpaid under pressure for Maupay and McNeil.

But in fairness, the only two game-winning goals we've scored this season were by Maupay and McNeil. Outstanding strikes both. Funny how things work out sometimes.

Rob Halligan
40 Posted 18/10/2022 at 18:30:11
Dave #38. Well said, mate.

I don't see the sudden drooling over the skunks. They haven't bought anybody who stands out a mile, like a Messi, or Neymar or Mbappe or (wash my mouth out) a Salah.

They've bought players from Villa and Brighton, and a player I'd never heard of, Alexander Isak, who might well turn out okay.

With Saint-Maximim and Isak both missing tomorrow, there is, as you say, nothing to fear, other than that climb up to the away section. Fourteen flights of stairs with ten steps on each flight. Think I'll take the lift up!

Colin Glassar
41 Posted 18/10/2022 at 18:59:54
I’d like to see Garner, Gana and Onana line up in MF. Iwobi (who’s no longer useless) deserves a rest imo.
Sean Roe
42 Posted 18/10/2022 at 19:22:23
This match is being shown on Amazon Prime just in case anybody didn't know.
Geoff Lambert
43 Posted 18/10/2022 at 19:37:17
Just to add to Sean's Post above, You can join Amazon Prime free for the first 30 days, then cancel before the 30 days is up.
Anthony Dove
44 Posted 18/10/2022 at 20:26:55
Doucoure and Garner for Gana and Iwobi.

And Pickford, please cut out the ridiculous time-wasting.

David McMullen
45 Posted 18/10/2022 at 20:46:56
I don't think these will be a walkover but we can beat them.

I feel we need to make one or two changes though. The side that was improving and giving us good vibes has gone a bit flat.

Need to stop the run. Can't be losing to these plastic Kopites.

Justin Doone
46 Posted 18/10/2022 at 21:15:03
Pickford to be replaced so he doesn't lose his head. I'm actually going to put money on him being sent off.

5-man midfield so we can try and compete.

An away game so stay deep, compact, frustrate and hit them on the break.

Our passing needs to be crisper, sharper, quicker and more accurate.

Anything's possible in this game.

Kunal Desai
47 Posted 18/10/2022 at 21:15:51
#2 - Will - agree to get anything out of tomorrow we will need to setup a little more positive and adventurous going forward. Not seeing enough from McNeil and Maupay.

Onana and Gana need to keep Guimaraes quiet. He is the dangerman.

Sam Hoare
48 Posted 18/10/2022 at 21:18:34
I'm amazed anyone is suggesting dropping Iwobi, he is our best creator by a massive distance at the moment – it's no surprise that, when Lampard moved him to right-back on Sunday, we immediately failed to create anything at all.

I think if people are desperate to get Garner in the team, then one option is playing Iwobi instead of Gray who tends to lose the ball frequently, while slowing us down and not doing great defensive work.

Though Iwobi only really works as a wide player if the full-back can get beyond him frequently so he can come inside, which neither Mykolenko nor Coleman seem capable of currently.

I say Gray but Gordon has not been much better, he works more defensively though and will be raring to go after missing Sunday.

Holgate Coady Tarkowski Mykolenko
Garner Gueye Onana
Gordon Calvert-Lewin Iwobi

Mike Gaynes
49 Posted 18/10/2022 at 21:35:08
I'm with you, Sam. Iwobi out?? No way, nohow. He doesn't need a rest and he certainly doesn't merit dropping in any way.
Ian Bennett
50 Posted 18/10/2022 at 21:36:38
Iwobi should play. He plays well between the lines well and has a good work rate. He starts for me, and I didn't like him at right back either – we lost something in my view on that change.

Garner has promise, but I don't think he justifies a start a head of Gana or Onana away from home. If he comes in, I'd be taking Gana out.

Maupay, McNeil from a performance point of view have done little to justify a start. Both lack pace, and don't do enough when on the ball.

Coleman, whilst a great servant, is struggling to offer what Patterson was starting to provide.

A work-in-progress team up top. But no surprise after last season's struggle.

Coleman Coady Tarkowski Mykolenko
Iwobi Gueye Onana
Gray Calvert-Lewin Gordon

Danny O’Neill
51 Posted 18/10/2022 at 21:38:46
Drop Iwobi? Who for?

Go and get them Everton.

They're Newcastle.

Not Bayern Munich.

And we saw them off too.

Steve Daniells
52 Posted 18/10/2022 at 21:39:24
Newcastle are much improved under Eddie the Toffee. They have built a good team: Guimaraes is quality, Wilson will always score goals.

They have height at the back. Trippier will always create problems from set pieces. And then there's the wild card that is Saint-Maximin, who Howe said is expected to be fit for tomorrow.

But we're also a very different team to the one they played last season.

Like others, I'd like to see Garner start this one, at the expense of McNeill. I'd go for the old Christmas Tree, 4-3-2-1. Back four picks itself. Garner, Gana & Onana in the middle, Iwobi and Gray interchanging behind Maupay. Keep it tight, then bring Calvert-Lewin on at half-time.

It's easy being an armchair manager...

Martin Mason
53 Posted 18/10/2022 at 21:40:10
I'd say that the outcome will be similar to the Spurs game with the chances slightly higher for a positive outcome but overall, the likelihood is defeat.

Hopefully the performance will be an improvement and we move ahead with more confidence. Defeat isn't a disaster… in fact, defeat is how we will perhaps learn most.

Rob Halligan
54 Posted 18/10/2022 at 21:47:16
Steve # 52.

I think Howe said he expects Saint-Maximin to return before the World Cup. I've read that he's definitely out with a hamstring injury until at least the last game before the break for the World Cup.

Christy Ring
55 Posted 18/10/2022 at 22:16:01
Holgate should start at full back, because Coleman shouldn't be expected to play 2 games in quick succession.

Play a back four with Calvert-Lewin and Maupay together upfront.

Andrew McLawrence
56 Posted 18/10/2022 at 22:17:52
If Calvert-Lewin is the answer, I have no idea what the question is.

The lack of goals will kill us more quickly than the leaky defence did last season. Can on-loan players be recalled?

Justin Doone
57 Posted 18/10/2022 at 22:18:11
So Saint-Maximin is a definite starter.
Oliver Molloy
58 Posted 18/10/2022 at 22:19:23
Don't think we will trouble Newcastle too much tomorrow night, unfortunately; I'm expecting nothing.
Laurie Hartley
59 Posted 18/10/2022 at 22:32:36
I thought we made Spurs work hard for their 3 points.

As always with this squad, it's 4-4-2 for me:

Holgate, Coady, Tarkowski, Mykolenko,
Doucoure, Garner, Gana, Onana,
Iwobi, Maupay.

Up the Blues!!!

Paul Birmingham
60 Posted 18/10/2022 at 22:34:54
Everton can beat the Skunks, and hopefully the referee won't bottle it.

If Everton can keep composed as in the first half at Spurs, it's definitely winnable but chances made must be buried.

It would be great to beat the Toon and sap the media who beef them up to be some team with a defined destiny to be a great team.

It's up to Everton to take the learning from Spurs and put right tomorrow night, with a well overdue burst of good finishing.

Derek Knox
61 Posted 18/10/2022 at 22:40:25
Truth is, we shouldn't be afraid of anyone, I hope Frank is getting that across in his pre-match talks.

We are not quite there as we all know at this stage, but have a decent nucleus of players, and they all seem to be working as a unit, except recently against Man Utd, and to a degree Spurs, till it was too late.

Hopefully, a lesson has been learnt.

Steve Daniells
62 Posted 18/10/2022 at 22:44:44
Rob #64. thanks!

I appreciate the clarification – I must have misread Howe's comments on Saint-Max. Him not being fit is good news!

Danny O’Neill
63 Posted 18/10/2022 at 22:50:09
I can't be at St James's Park tomorrow night because I'm in Bucharest with work. Maybe I'll bring back a banner. Bastards. One for the swear box.

We're as good as them, if not better. Go and play with belief and win the game. No fear. We're Everton. I'll be following and watching.

Tom Bowers
64 Posted 18/10/2022 at 23:21:25
I suppose we have to get used to the bad news that we seem to get before every match – not to mention the results.

I cannot see Holgate improving the defence unless we play eight across the back.

It's obvious to us all and Lampard that we need to score goals but we don't have the artillery good enough to do it so it's down to Pickford and company to save us in all games at least until January when possibly the squad will be strengthened where necessary.

Tomorrow's game is another one whereby we will be clear underdogs but can we expect a big improvement after the last two games?

It is very painful going through this period but Lampard has to rally the troops to battle like crazy.

Barcodes are no world beaters and were lucky not to lose to Man Utd.


Kieran Kinsella
65 Posted 18/10/2022 at 23:55:43

Haha “eight at the back” cracked me up

Frank McGregor
66 Posted 19/10/2022 at 02:21:05
I would like to see an end to the practice of continually passing the ball back to Pickford, for him to boot the ball upfield directly to the opposition.

It happened time after time at Tottenham.

Andy Meighan
67 Posted 19/10/2022 at 07:54:42
Great Post Dave 38
Danny Baily
68 Posted 19/10/2022 at 08:29:51
On the balance of probability, it's a beating tonight. Keep the scoreline respectable and keep our powder dry for the weekend.
Frank Sheppard
69 Posted 19/10/2022 at 08:40:24
Far too much negativity on here. Yes, we are on the back of two poor defeats. But we are looking much more like a team than last season.

We can’t expect to go from bottom end to top end straight away. Mid table, and some stability is what's required this season. Let's get real.

Rob Dolby
70 Posted 19/10/2022 at 08:41:27
I reckon we can get something out of tonight.

They aren't world beaters. Wilson always does well against us and Pickford always gets wound up by them.

4-5-1 with Gordon in for McNeil.

Danny Baily
71 Posted 19/10/2022 at 08:53:43
Frank, mid table and some stability is the dream scenario for this season. We have good reason to be looking over our shoulders, just as we did last time out.
Joe McMahon
72 Posted 19/10/2022 at 08:59:57
Not negatively, but our Achilles Heel for many a season (Lukaku aside) is goals, we don't score them.

Calvert-Lewin isn't going to go all Marvel and turn into Aguero MKII or even Son, and Gordon's shots have as much power as Pippi Longstockings.

Bill Watson
73 Posted 19/10/2022 at 09:13:38
I'd start Garner but in place of Gordon rather than Gueye.
Danny O’Neill
74 Posted 19/10/2022 at 09:31:43
I'm in Bucharest tonight. I'd rather be in Newcastle even though it would mean a trip home in the very early early hours.

God speed to the travelling blues and those of us following from afar despite the time zones.

Let's go and get the points.

John Kavanagh
75 Posted 19/10/2022 at 09:36:41
If we can just cut out the giveaways in midfield, we are more than capable of keeping a clean sheet. It would be nice to sneak a breakaway goal or two as well.

Agree that Coleman should perhaps be rested, with Holgate coming in.

I've noticed that the BBC have today re-started their campaign to replace Pickford as England's first-choice keeper. They've even got a poll on the page, with Ramsdale top choice. Total coincidence that they've chosen today to run the article of course, with Pickford going to his least favourite venue and Pope playing for 'everyone's second favourite club'.

I just want us to put in a performance tonight with a clean sheet for Pickford or even a win to make the legions of ex- RS BBC, Sky, Amazon, and BT pundits. commentators and gobshites shut the fuck up for once. So COYB.

Brian Harrison
76 Posted 19/10/2022 at 09:48:17
Despite some posters wanting to make changes to the starting line-up, I think it’s more important that Frank changes his and the team’s mindset. Try and get on the front foot, have midfield players running ahead of our strikers and getting into the box.

Our style at present is a lone target man who is usually at least 15 yards from a team mate, so how does that help build any attacking moves? Even if Calvert-Lewin starts, if Frank persists with this defensive system, we will still struggle to score goals.

I am sure, if we can go toe to toe with Liverpool, then we can certainly do the same against an average Newcastle team. They have made a couple of additions to last season’s team who for most of last season occupied a Bottom 5 position.

So please, Frank, let’s have a go tonight and not retreat with all our players in our own half, like we have in too many matches this season.

Kevin Molloy
77 Posted 19/10/2022 at 10:16:04
I don't like it when we have to play teams with good players, things always seem to go wrong. We need to start lining up a few punchbags, get the old confidence back.
Steavey Buckley
78 Posted 19/10/2022 at 10:21:32
New summer acquisitions, apart from Coady and Tarkowski, have not improved Everton. Everton at the beginning of last season under previous manager Benitez played better football.

I do believe, if he had access to the same funds as Frank Lampard has had this season, at the beginning of last season, he would still be the manager. Benitez’s total spend at the beginning of last season was just £1.8M, which is a footballing joke.

It was an insult to any Premier League manager, when you compare the £150M the Nottingham Forest manager spent this year yet they are near the bottom, but he still keeps his job.

Rob Dolby
79 Posted 19/10/2022 at 10:31:03
Steavey @78.

We all seen what happened after Benitez's honeymoon period ended. It was the most disjointed football since Mike Walker. Clubs aren't falling over themselves to employ him.

Onana, Gana and Garner have improved us, not just Coady and Tarkowski.

Not sure what your point is but we are playing Newcastle tonight away from home. We should stick with the pragmatic approach that we took into the Man Utd, Spurs and Liverpool games.

Dave Williams
80 Posted 19/10/2022 at 10:47:30
Frank has to either rest Pickford or hammer into him the need to keep calm and not wind up their fans with time-wasting.

A five-man midfield for me and I'd start Rondon to knock the centre-backs around a bit and hold the ball. I'm no fan of his but he is more use on his own than the tiny Maupay.

That said, if Calvert-Lewin is fit, then I'd play him but, like others, I do wonder if there is more to his absences than meets the eye.

Young Garner should play from the start.

Pickford (or Begovic)
Holgate Coady Tarkowski Mykolenko
Garner Gana
Iwobi Onana Gordon
Calvert-Lewin (if fit; if not, Rondon)

Steavey Buckley
81 Posted 19/10/2022 at 11:02:18
If you believe any Premier League manager can have an insulting transfer pot atcthe measly amount of £1.8M and can still create a good football team week-in & week-out without any injuries and suspensions, you will find no Premier League manager would accept this situation.

I am surprised Benitez took the Everton job in the first place with so little money available to him but with so many expectations of him. But he did manage to make Gordon and Gray better players, but lost his 2 most important players, Calvert-Lewin and Richarlison.

Everton under Frank Lampard are doing a lot more running around this season than last season, but are still woeful in the final third because there is a lack of quality.

Kevin Molloy
82 Posted 19/10/2022 at 11:12:05
Steavey, it sickens me still to think back to Benitez.

He was trying to do the right thing, and the moves he made last year now look even better with the emotion taken out of them. He built a better team with zero net spend than the other jokers managed with half a billion.

Getting rid of James and Digne, not easy to do when you see what a cushy number they were on, losing out two most effective goal poachers in Sigurdsson and Calvert-Lewin, not being given any money, getting those two fullbacks in, getting Townsend and Gray on frees… amazing really he wasn't given any credit.

In fact, he was run out of town with jeers ringing in his ears when he tried to tackle the gobshites down on Finch Farm.
A massive missed opportunity.

Bill Watson
83 Posted 19/10/2022 at 11:27:20
Steavey #81

You can't be serious.

Benitez spent too much of his time playing power politics with the backroom staff. On the field, he was completely out of his depth.

He persisted in playing two in midfield with the consequence we were being constantly overrun and the defence was always under pressure.

One of the many disasters which stands out for me is Norwich away. They hadn't scored for around six games but were 2-0 up within the first 15 minutes and it could have been more. There are many other examples including Liverpool and Watford at home.

He was certainly no champion of Gordon. He publicly stated he couldn't last more than 60 minutes and only eventually selected him because of injuries to others.

Clive Rogers
84 Posted 19/10/2022 at 11:32:16
We consistently play one up front. When that is your preferred system, you should have a couple of attacking midfielders including the wingers behind the striker capable of scoring a few goals.

That is where the system falls down for us. The other five are not contributing enough goals to win games. The lone striker isn't either at present.

Steavey Buckley
85 Posted 19/10/2022 at 11:38:11
Everton are not playing great football this season, it is just an illusion because they are running around a lot more.

Everton's attempts on goal are pretty poor, because Everton are more defensively minded and getting back into their defensive positions.

Jim Bennings
86 Posted 19/10/2022 at 12:35:28
Stacey @85,

Can't really argue with that if we are honest.

The football isn't great is it? Even when Calvert-Lewin is back, it won't be great either.

It's basically get the ball to Gray or Gordon and just tell them to run 30 yards into a blind alley.

We don't see any real incisive passing moves, we don't have any combinations on the go, remember the Bainaar?

I don't know but I hope as the season progresses we start to see Frank produce some kind of little glimmers for us in getting a team that organically plays good football instead of just forcing things.

After all, it didn't take Graham Potter long at Brighton to get the team playing easy-on-the-eye football, a club that has punched above its weight for 3 years or so now.

Jim Bennings
87 Posted 19/10/2022 at 12:39:01
Bill 83

I was no lover of Benitez either, the wrong fit completely.

He was however correct in his assessment of Anthony Gordon.

He still can't play more than 60 minutes even this season, in fact he's not even running as much as he was.

Some things are the truth no matter who said them.

David Hallwood
88 Posted 19/10/2022 at 13:37:48
Two quick points: one thing about the January window is that it's the easiest one in years to identify what's needed to strengthen the squad; getting the right players is another matter.

Secondly, I think one of the worst mistakes in football was getting rid of the Central League; and for those unfamiliar with it, all teams had a reserve team, which played competitive football, I think there was even relegation.

But for players coming back from injury, like Calvert-Lewin, and Gbamin, for new players like Garner and players out of form or favour, it gives them game time and players new to the club some settling in time.

For the up-and-coming young players, they play man-football week-in & week-out against old established pros, and of course means we can call on the likes of Ellis Simms, Lewis Warrington or Lewis Dobbin, if they're impressing in the team.

The U21s just doesn't cut it.

Raymond Fox
89 Posted 19/10/2022 at 13:42:39
It's 8/13 Newcastle 3/1 the Draw 5/1 Everton tonight.

I think 5/1 is generous, I can't say I really fancy us much but at that price it's worth throwing a small bet at it.
The reality though is we are not very good at scoring which is why we continue to struggle to beat anybody.

Can't score = can't win; anyway fingers crossed and hope for the best.

Dave Abrahams
90 Posted 19/10/2022 at 13:42:44
Bran (76), with you all the way on that.

Some fans say he has to play a he played at Spurs, defend and attack on breakaways. I agree to a degree but not the ultra-defensive way Frank has them playing, how come we start attacking more, and creating chances, when we go behind?

We got a goal back and a draw versus Forest, could have snatched a draw at Villa after going two behind, had chances in the second half v Man Utd, so we can attack more if Lampard changes his tactics, not gung-ho but enough to trouble their keeper now and again.

What is certain is, if you go to defend for 90 minutes, you just might get a draw. If you make some effort to score at the other end of the field, you get 3 points, instead of boring and worrying the life out of the fans who are watching.

I know results are everything but give us something to bleedin' cheer as well, especially for those incredible fans who travel to watch, give them a thought for God's sake!!

Steve Brown
91 Posted 19/10/2022 at 13:58:04
Benitez certainly was a footballing joke.

10 defeats in 13 games and a squad who downed tools on him. That level of ‘success' nearly got us relegated.

I also want a more ambitious gameplan from Lampard tonight.

Stephen Colby
92 Posted 19/10/2022 at 14:15:19
Crampons and oxygen bottles packed and ready to scale the away end.

Pickford mustn't allow himself to be goaded by the Newcastle fans and Holgate too must keep his cool.

Onana and Gueye will boss midfield and Gordon will pop up while all eyes are on Onana. 3 points are ours to be lost

David McMullen
93 Posted 19/10/2022 at 14:27:41
I didn't object to Benitez (because of LFC) but I didn't realise what a dinosaur he was. We started well but it soon fundamentally turned rotten.

That was on Benitez. Just like Steve's comment (91). Same Lampard needs to attack these, from the off.

I hate that we concede possession easily, that has to stop but we play with the tools we have. Get into them, Blues.

Jimmy Salt
94 Posted 19/10/2022 at 14:41:19
Really hope Iwobi is not out wide, we become devoid of attacking ideas when he's not central.
Brian Murray
95 Posted 19/10/2022 at 15:08:06
Anyone think all these headed chances, and also at Spurs that great break from the halfway line, that Onana, once he gets one, will be unstoppable?

I live in parallel universe where the Blues and hope is concerned. We've got to find a way to include James Garner, more often than not.

Having a one-game-in-four striker won't move us up the Premier League. Off to the nag punchers, binoculars at the ready.

Rob Dolby
96 Posted 19/10/2022 at 15:15:24
I want fast, attacking football. How do we get that out of this squad and not get pasted every week?

I want our away fans treated to skills and goals. How do we do that?

We have all watched enough football, some on here have played to a good standard. So can it be done without getting us relegated?

Can we get 50 goals out of Calvert-Lewin, Rondon and Mauphey?

Can we get an end product from Gray or Gordon?

Mike Doyle
97 Posted 19/10/2022 at 15:21:38
Dave #90, well said.

After climbing those 45 flights of stairs up to the away fans section, those still breathing deserve something to cheer.

Anthony A Hughes
98 Posted 19/10/2022 at 15:22:07
It might take 5 years to get 50 goals out of that trio, Rob.
Anthony A Hughes
99 Posted 19/10/2022 at 15:23:45
I don't think any of the cows will be worrying about their arses tonight when we turn up armed with banjos.
Pete Clarke
100 Posted 19/10/2022 at 15:31:40
Newcastle are nothing special and they are weakened with Saint-Maximin out so I believe that we will not only beat them but that we simply have to.

We've showed some promise of being more solid and in the Liverpool game we showed that we can also take it to a team. This is a great opportunity for Frank Lampard to show the other side of our game again because, if he plays that ultra-defensive crap, it is going to have myself and his other hardened backers a bit worried.

Get Calvert-Lewin on from the start so we can see if he's got it and let's give their defenders a bad night.

Can we leave any Benitez history out of any threads because just as with the name Allardyce, it reminds me of who is running this club.

Blues for a 2 nil win

Jay Harris
101 Posted 19/10/2022 at 15:41:55
4-2-2-2 with Calvert-Lewin and Maupay up front, Iwobi and GArner behind them and Gueye and Onana behind them.

Forget these half-arsed wingers and let the fullbacks defend. Oh and Holgate in for Seamus who probably needs a rest.

Will Mabon
102 Posted 19/10/2022 at 15:46:44
Stephen @ 92:

I think Pickford in the past has been his own enemy, nerve-wise.

I don't think a few Geordies will bother a good Mackem – he'll be well up for that I reckon.

Tom Bowers
103 Posted 19/10/2022 at 15:50:07
Nice to see all these positive comments but the bottom line is not scoring will drop at least two more points.

The Barcodes are playing much better than last season and they are at home but a strong defence may just get the result.

Mike Gaynes
104 Posted 19/10/2022 at 15:58:05
I remember reading something when Frank was hired about a fines system he'd had at Chelsea that he had brought with him to Everton. Today he talked about implementing it this season. From the Guardian:

Frank Lampard has introduced a fines system and player leadership group at Everton to maintain standards that he believes will help the team to progress. The Everton manager had a fines system at his previous club, Chelsea, that included a £20,000 punishment for being late for training and £10,000 for not reporting an illness or injury before a day off, but did not implement it at Goodison Park last season as the team fought relegation.

It has come into effect this season, however, and Lampard insists his players are happy with the extra discipline. The 44-year-old, who indicated the fines are not as heavy as they were at Chelsea, said: “When I went to Chelsea the feeling was that maybe discipline had not been spot on – that was from the players by the way, not my view, so we brought that in. It raised a few eyebrows because of the numbers and in the second year at Chelsea I came off that a little bit.

“Then you come into Everton. It didn’t feel a priority last year to go: ‘You are fined if you are late.’ The priority was: ‘Can we get three points this weekend?’ Now we have got more time this season and the group is set up, my feeling is they like some sort of policing of the standards and I think it can help if done right.

“The players are fully involved in it so they are happy with the levels – we are not killing them with the levels! – but it is good to have something in place to make sure we stay on point. We speak to the players a lot about the balance of confidence, progression and complacency. It is a very fine line and I think the right fines system can help keep that balance.”

Mike Gaynes
105 Posted 19/10/2022 at 16:14:20
Personally, I'd rather he fined guys £20,000 for arriving late at the back post on a cross or forgetting to cover an opposing runner on a free kick.
Jason Ingham
106 Posted 19/10/2022 at 16:30:50
We all knew goals would be hard to come by. I personally feel we have the firepower, so long as we can get the ball near their goal. We've been playing too conservatively, hoping to nick wins. That's a hopeless cause. Go for the win. He who dares.
Sean Roe
107 Posted 19/10/2022 at 16:50:10
The money involved in the fines shows how out of touch football has become. What would be life changing money for most people is merely pocket change for these footballers.
I would prefer verbal warning, written warning, final written warning, dismissed.

Football, the common mans game

Jonathan Tasker
108 Posted 19/10/2022 at 16:53:16
Everton’s season now effectively consists of just 24 matches.
Newcastle are now so good that they are in the new Top 7.
Prediction Newcastle win 81%
Draw 17%
Everton 2%
Mike Gaynes
109 Posted 19/10/2022 at 16:54:13
Dismissed, Sean? As in contracted cancelled? Punted out of the club?

If PSG had that policy, Neymar would have been available on a free transfer long ago.

Barry Rathbone
110 Posted 19/10/2022 at 17:03:18
Another of the arrive in hope rather than expectation games.

But with a bit of luck Newcastle will have an off day and we'll scratch some kind of result to keep a decent distance from the drop zone.

What a time to be alive

Matthew Williams
111 Posted 19/10/2022 at 17:06:30
Change it up Frank and be braver FFS...we have to get something from this game!
Dale Self
112 Posted 19/10/2022 at 17:09:36
Since Frank hasn't really impressed with his setup I'm going with a risk in selection but a conservative formation:


Coleman (Holgate if fit) Tark Coady Myko

Garner Onana Iwobi McNeil

Gordon <---

--> Maupay

On offence, Iwobi advances in a diamond with Onana as cover

defence, Onana middle with McNeil and Garner and Iwobi free to pressure.

With Garner and McNeil we will keep possession longer which will make Iwobi more potent. Gordon and Maupay should constantly interweave not go to the outside without support.

For what that's worth. Gray and DCL late but leave Maupay on.

Sean Roe
113 Posted 19/10/2022 at 17:14:44
Unrealistic and unlikely to cause them sleepless nights admittedly. I just wish that the disciplinary procedure that us normal folk would face for reasonably trivial matters would cause them the same kind of stress and financial hardship we would suffer.

Twenty thousand for being a bit late for training? Many of us are stressing about having to choose whether to eat or heat our houses this winter.

I love football, I don't love the money involved these days. The article is just rubbing peoples noses in it to my mind.

Back to on the pitch matters, here's hopeful of three much needed points tonight.

Danny Baily
114 Posted 19/10/2022 at 17:32:26
Matthew 111, I don't think we need anything from this evening's game, by which I mean we shouldn't expect anything from this evening's game.

If we're going to stay up, it will be the home games against teams around us that make the difference.

Duncan McDine
115 Posted 19/10/2022 at 17:32:55
Reading some of the comments above, it seems like Eddie Howe has turned Newcastle into one hell of a team (and he hasn’t started spending megabucks just yet). I wonder how many of those posters supported the idea of him becoming the next Everton manager when he was in the running after probably the previous 5 or 6 sackings… (not many).
My own feeling is that Newcastle aren’t yet as great as many people believe, and I feel confident that we’ll give them a decent game tonight. COYB
Michael Lynch
117 Posted 19/10/2022 at 17:40:57
We've got no strikers of Premier League quality. Newcastle are a handy side. We might grab a point if we play out of our skin and ride our luck a bit, but I can't see it.

The big games for us are Palace, Fulham, Leicester and Bournemouth. We need 7 or 8 points from them.

Dale Self
118 Posted 19/10/2022 at 17:49:12
Guimares is their only heavy. Longstaff and Joelinton? please. And that dynamo of Wilson and Almiron are to be feared are they? After playing against Ushited and Spurs I think we'll be capable of finding some space and applying pressure in the final third.
Danny Baily
119 Posted 19/10/2022 at 17:50:09
Michael, it's has to be 9 points from Fulham, Leicester and Bournemouth. We need 8 more wins, and if we don't win those we'll really struggle.
Brian Murray
120 Posted 19/10/2022 at 17:52:24
Very very dangerous and could be fatal with the mindset oh we need to beat the teams around us. Three points in this league is precious as Patrick viera will show on Saturday as they all will fight and no one lies down anymore.
Iain Johnston
121 Posted 19/10/2022 at 17:55:30
Newcastle score when they're allowed to play, they struggle against compact defensive teams. They can't break them down.

Drew with Wolves, Bournemouth, Palace & Brighton.

Nothing to be scared of Blues. Keep it tight and if Gray actually bothers his arse for a change we CAN win this!!


Mike Gaynes
124 Posted 19/10/2022 at 18:01:20
Don't hold back, Rob my friend. Express yourself.
Jonathan Tasker
125 Posted 19/10/2022 at 18:08:59
The owners of Newcastle have more money than the owners of Man City.
To suggest they won’t be in the new Big 7 shows at least a distinct lack of research.
Ps they are 6th already.
Iain Johnston
127 Posted 19/10/2022 at 18:10:58
Rob Halligan, very true!

Jonathan Tasker
128 Posted 19/10/2022 at 18:13:11
Rob. On Bramley Moore you may have read last week that there’s a £200m hole in the financing. The auditors are pulling out.

On Newcastle it’s not a case of a new favourite team. The owners have more money than City. That’s a fact.

129 Posted 19/10/2022 at 18:14:55
Come on Blues! We are working for a geordie at the minute. He has got a lot to say for himself and was on the wind up today- I kept my counsel and just kept saying"yeh,I hope you're right pal ". A jammy 1-0 to us would be perfect to wind him up with tomorrow!
Will Mabon
131 Posted 19/10/2022 at 18:22:57
Jonathan @ 125,

that would not be Newcastle, that would be Mega Investment F.C. same as Man City.

For now, they're won-nothing Newcastle.

Everton of course, chose not to be falsely inflated by the immoral injection of money. We distributed ours within the wider football community. We're doing it the right way :-)

Dale Self
133 Posted 19/10/2022 at 18:25:59
Thanks Rob, I was looking to update my Goodley (or whatever his name was) file. His by-lines didn't impress (usually listed third on any of the bigger stories) and there really wasn't much substance to that article.
Jonathan Tasker
134 Posted 19/10/2022 at 18:27:36
Get used to Nufc being in the new Big 7.
Starting from this season.
At least Eddie Howe is an Everton fan
Will Mabon
135 Posted 19/10/2022 at 18:29:15
Jonathan, not tonight he ain't.

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