Season › 2023-24 › News Atrocious Everton snub Neto gift to lose at Bournemouth again Lyndon Lloyd 30/03/2024 86comments | Jump to last Bournemouth 2 - 1 Everton Everton looked to have salvaged an unlikely point against a poor Bournemouth side when Beto profited from a goalkeeping bungle to grab a late equaliser, only for Seamus Coleman to score a calamitous own goal in stoppage time. Despite having had three weeks off to recharge and reset for the final 10 games of the season, the Toffees had been largely inept during a scrappy encounter at Vitality Stadium and fell behind to Dominic Solanke's 64th-minute header. That appeared to be that, with Sean Dyche's men looking bereft of quality and ideas, but when the Cherries' goalkeeper dropped a fairly routine cross, Beto was there to give Everton a much-needed boost. However, the collective failure of three players to deal with a cross ended with the skipper chesting the ball into his own net – a stomach-churning illustration of the calamity the team has become under Dyche's failing tenure. Article continues below video content The manager mostly stuck with the same personnel as before the recent hiatus but opted for Dominic Calvert-Lewin up front from the start this time and deployed Ben Godfrey at left-back in place of Vitalii Mykolenko who had flu. Coleman made only his third start of the season on the other side of defence and found himself busy in the early going as Bournemouth started on the front foot. Antoine Semenyo stung Jordan Pickford's palms with a drive inside three minutes and Lewis Cook blazed the rebound over while, shortly afterwards, Justin Kluivert tried to flick home a near-post delivery from a corner but the Blues' keeper was there again to block it. Everton's first chance fell to Calvert-Lewin from Abdoulaye Doucouré's lay-off and the striker ignored Jack Harrison to his right before seeing a shot deflect heavily and loop over the crossbar. And after the visitors got lucky at one end when James Tarkowski's header hit Semenyo in the six-yard box and rebounded over Pickford's bar, Neto was called into action at the other to deny Calvert-Lewin following Everton's best chance of the first half. A deep Pickford free-kick came off Tarkowski's heel and fell invitingly for DCL but his placed, side-foot shot was palmed behind by the keeper. Dwight McNeil dragged a decent opportunity to test Neto from 20-odd yards wide while Jarrad Branthwaite came close to conceding a penalty when Tyler Adams threatened to wriggle free of him in the box but the incident ended with Cook's shot being charged down at the back post. What had, in many respects, been a dreadfully turgid first-half display by Everton was crying out for a change either in approach or personnel at the break but Dyche sent his team out for the second period unchanged. Once again, it was Bournemouth who carried the early threat as Marcus Tavernier forced another diving save from Pickford with a low effort but there should have been a higher-profile check for a spot-kick at the other end a few minutes later. Calvert-Lewin appeared to be clipped in the same way that Alejandro Garnacho was by Tarkowski at Old Trafford three weeks ago but the striker barely appealed for a penalty, referee Sam Barrott gave nothing and if VAR Michael Oliver gave it more than a cursory glance, it was not communicated inside the stadium. It was almost rendered academic three minutes later when Everton, displaying a rare moment of invention from a set-piece, executed a one-two short-corner routine between McNeil and Harrison, with the latter striking the post with a shot from the angle that almost ricocheted in off Chris Mepham. Just past the hour mark, Tavernier lashed a good chance wide of goal before Lloyd Kelly was introduced and, two minutes later, had supplied Solanke with the opener. The substitute hooked a dangerous cross into Everton's six-yard box where Solanke stole in between Tarkowski and Godfrey to easily power home a barely challenged header. Dyche eventually withdrew the disappointing Doucouré and Harrison for Andre Gomes and Ashley Young and, a few minutes later, took off Amadou Onana in favour of Beto but it initially looked more likely that the Cherries would extend their lead than the hapless Toffees get back into the contest. Solanke almost benefited from a half-hearted punch by Pickford but, thankfully, the ball bounced off him and dropped past the post. Then, with three minutes left of the 90 came what should have been Everton's salvation when McNeil sent in a deep cross, Neto climbed above Beto to claim but spilled the ball and the Portuguese had the simple task of knockin the loose ball home. Six minutes of stoppage time seemed to give the Blues ample time to try and fashion a winner but they saw a precious point evaporate in horrible fashion before they could even try. Godfrey failed to stop a cross from the Bournemouth right, Pickford and Jarrad Branthwaite hesitated as it bounced a couple of yards in front of him and into the unfortunate Coleman whose apparent attempt to chest it back into the path of his keeper ended up in the back of his own net. The blunt truth is that this was an unacceptably poor performance by a team that has lost its way under Dyche who has now equalled Mike Walker's club-record run of 12 games without a League victory. The "Silver Fox" won his next one but was righlty sacked anyway and it's hard to escape the feeling that were there any leadership at the helm of Farhad Moshiri's chaotic regime or any money to pay the compensation required, Dyche would be nervously awaiting a phone call this evening. He once quipped as Burnley boss that Frank Lampard's Everton had forgotten how to win but, under his stewardship, the current group of players look utterly bereft of how to coherently get up the ball up the pitch to create chances, let alone score enough goals to win games. On this evidence, a trip to Newcastle on Tuesday evening offers almost nothing to engender optimism that Dyche won't break Walker's abysmal record, that Everton can get anything out of the game or that this club is doing anything other than sleepwalking into another desperate last-day bid to avoid relegation. Matchday updates and reaction Reader Comments (86) Note: the following content is not moderated or vetted by the site owners at the time of submission. Comments are the responsibility of the poster. Disclaimer () Brent Stephens 1 Posted 30/03/2024 at 18:46:02 I've not been calling for Dyches' head; and this is a poor Everton squad - but I just feel Dyche isn't able to steer the poor resources at his disposal into a safe position. The second Commission pronoucement is crucial. Dave Lynch 2 Posted 30/03/2024 at 19:05:30 3 weeks off and a jolly in Portugal and we're treated to the same old dross.Sack him...put Charlie Carole and CoCo the clown in charge because they can't be any worse than this fella. I heard on the radio he has surpassed Mike Walkers poor run so is now officially the worst Everton manager in history. Sam Callister 3 Posted 30/03/2024 at 19:13:29 I doubt opposing managers even check our team sheet before a game now - it never changes. Dyche is bereft of ideas, won't change anything unless it's 80 minutes in and we're behind. Even then usually it's a straight swap, Beto for DCL - and repeat. How about for once start the game intending to actually WIN IT! Put the opposition on the back foot, don't concede possession and ATTACK. As my mate said “it's the hope that kills youâ€. UTFT. Kevin Prytherch 4 Posted 30/03/2024 at 19:16:59 As much as people are blaming Coleman - both Pickford and Branthwaite made a move towards the ball for their second. Branthwaite leaves it for Pickford, Pickford takes a couple of steps forward but then completely leaves it. Yes, Coleman's body shape was wrong - but he simply didn't expect a ball that weak to be left to bounce all the way across the goalmouth.Pickford has been shown up for both today after his England horror show. Solanke heads the first from 3 yards out, Pickford again makes a move towards the ball before back tracking. Tarkowski leaves Solanke to Godfrey and Godfrey just doesn't get close to him. Both goals are a horrow show from a hesitant defence and keeper. Iain Johnston 5 Posted 30/03/2024 at 19:17:47 For me all they're looking at is 3 home games, Burnley, Forest & Sheff Utd. Alan Brown 6 Posted 30/03/2024 at 19:22:34 Something has got to change and quickly. Even without losing a few more points we are in serious trouble. Looking at the remaining fixtures how can we be confident of beating anyone? Our away form is not good, our home form is the worst I can remember. We are on our joint worst non winning streak we have ever had. With Newcastle away next. We still have Liverpool, Chelsea, Arsenal and lord knows who else to play. Forest will probably get a couple of points back on appeal and one or two below us are bound to go on a some sort of run and pick up some points. And any loss to one of those teams will be disastrous. The club is virtually bankrupt. The manager is out of ideas. The players are not good enough or don't care enough. We were promoted the year I was born and just about 70 years later it seems to me that this once great club of ours is heading to the championship with nothing but a whimper. Charles Ward 7 Posted 30/03/2024 at 19:25:07 Burnley and Sheffield United both scored more than one goal today.When was the last time we scored more than one - Spurs and the time before that was our last victory against Burnley.We can't rely on teams gifting us goals like today though. Jim Bennings 8 Posted 30/03/2024 at 19:25:36 Got to the stage where I no longer can give a shit.Get the season over whether we go down or not, then move Dyche on for his and our own benefit Joe McMahon 9 Posted 30/03/2024 at 19:29:08 Iain, the problem with that plan is that this Everton team and manager have lost to Luton at home twice this season. Burnley are going to go down, but they have started picking up points since Kompany put Muric back in goal. Virginia has to play against the Toon, as Pickford as we know has bad form up there, Geordies gonna have a party if he plays. Mal van Schaick 10 Posted 30/03/2024 at 19:42:17 I doubt that a new manager would inspire this bunch of misfits. We should have had a penalty and that would have changed the game for us.However, three weeks preparation for that performance, lays bare where this team is at and like others, I am wondering where the next goal or win is coming from?If we had an owner, perhaps they would sack the manager, but I don't think that we have one, so it looks like more of the same. Iain Johnston 11 Posted 30/03/2024 at 20:01:21 Joe, I know it's suicidal but It's the only explanation I can come up with for the performances. The Club is rudderless, Dyche is under no pressure at all & 777 will get a bargain if we're relegated. Paul Birmingham 12 Posted 30/03/2024 at 21:10:19 There's no excuses. After today, it seems this squad is approaching Shit Creek with half a broken paddle. Both goals avoidable and not stopping the crosses.Hopefully some honest and brutal team-building talks tomorrow and Monday. Beat the Skunks and, for God's sake, get some shots off. The season is passing by, and Everton can't rely on any but themselves. Ray Jacques 13 Posted 30/03/2024 at 21:24:44 That second goal was a fucking disgrace.End of. Jason Mcclure 14 Posted 30/03/2024 at 21:28:12 as far as I am concerned both goals are on pickford stuck to his goal line. comes out for both no goals conceded Jarmo Rahnasto 15 Posted 30/03/2024 at 21:53:50 I haven't felt this depressed about Everton for a long time. I don't think I can take all these negative things on and off the pitch anymore. I didn't even celebrate the goal because I was sure they were going to find a foul in there. Neil Lawson 16 Posted 30/03/2024 at 22:03:03 Atrocious Everton the headline. Absolutely. Putting the deserved abuse to one side, there is a very obvious consistency of opinion from the various posters. The performance was pathetic. This is after 3 weeks to prepare. But why should we expect anything different when the manager is so steadfastly opposed to any change despite the consistent and appalling underperformance of his chosen 11??? We are rudderless at the moment so nothing will change but he has to go at season end, whatever our fate. He should go now. We are currently hopeless and hapless. I am utterly dispirited to the extent that I barely care any more. That is a shocking admission and I am ashamed by it but watching my team is utterly joyless and utterly miserable. Colin Callaghan 17 Posted 30/03/2024 at 22:40:12 First goal, Branthwaite gets pulled all the way out to the right and is left chasing until the ball goes right in between Tarkowski and Godfrey... which is Branthwaite's position.Second goal, the ball can't bounce in your penalty box – let alone your 6-yard area. Tarkowski took the man and Branthwaite and Pickford expected the other to deal with it. Pitiful. Paul Roderick 18 Posted 31/03/2024 at 02:50:42 Absolutely norrarssed anymore. Enjoyed the 3 weeks off more than today. Can't see us winning again this season. Steve Oshaugh 19 Posted 31/03/2024 at 02:57:34 I have to say I'm getting a little annoyed at the negative commentary from some Everton fans at the moment. Context is everything and the context for this team is that they are dealing with something no other Premier League team has had to deal with. Prior to the points deduction, my recollection is that the team were performing okay... not world beaters but okay. We would be sitting on 31 points (possibly more as the negative feeling has surely contributed to the current form). They responded brilliantly to the initial 10 points but have had an appeal happening as well as yet another points deduction in the wind. We had a run of games without our key players and can not buy a goal at the moment. There is an ongoing ownership debacle with constant talk of how broke and close to liquidation the club is. They are only human and with all that going on I think most of us would be impacted. I know I am and I don't have to play in front of 40k spectators every week. Everton is not bringing me any joy at the moment but I know that this season is all about getting to the end in 17th at the worst. The squad has slowly but surely been denuded of talent but, from what I have seen, there has been no shortage of effort. It is high time that the supporters started firing up for the team big time. Shouting at clouds about the corrupt premier league, Moshiri's ineptness, Kenwright, or the staggeringly unexciting 777 Partners buyout will not achieve anything but potentially watch us slide into the Championship. It has been a tiring few years but the next four to five weeks on the pitch will decide the future of the club. I'm not suggesting we need to have the blue smoke out all the time but our boys need to hear that we are behind them 150%, especially when the next inevitable points deduction hits.If we manage to stay up this season with a double points deduction, it will be a massive result and will need the spirit of the Blues to make it happen. The boys need our support more than ever. Bill Gall 20 Posted 31/03/2024 at 03:25:11 I was one who thought that Dyche may be the one to pull us out of this mess but now I doubt it. This is the first time I have said to friends Everton are going to be relegated and started to loose faith in them. Today, despite the warm weather training and without a game for a number of weeks, they looked slower than Bournemouth who looked quicker with more desire to win.Forget the points deductions and the quotes of "we would be better off if we hadn't lost them". Fact is our record is P29 W8 D7 L14 – that gives us 31 points, with the 10pt reduction, 21 points, plus 4 points back is 25 points. Today, 31pts would put us above Palace, and that is not good enough. For a Manager who prides himself on the defensive side of the game, he is failing. We may have one of the best defensive records below the Top 5 but it is not keeping the point we start with. Other supporters may have more facts but he is supposed to have the worst losing record in the Premier League than any other Everton manager.I don't care about it being too late, with this style plus the number of players we will lose, we will not get out of the Championship, and the next longest survivor will get all the accolades on Sky Sports weekly. I want Everton to remain that team and if Dyche can't get them to perform, get someone who can before it is impossible. I have been a supporter since the late '50s but for a long time have not seen games at Goodison, only through the media outlets, watching most games, and feel really sad for those fellow supporters who travel home and away and have to put up with these type of performances. I'm going to cry in my beer. Phillip Warrington 21 Posted 31/03/2024 at 05:36:16 It's hard… we never really applied any sort of pressure on them. The amount of time passes went to the back of players, giving them no other option other than to back-track or try and beat the player. We have no goal threat whatsoever, Doucouré tries to link up with the forwards and scores some good goals but his control and distribution aren't that flash. I would like to see Onana playing off one of the forwards, I could see him feeding Dobbin some nice through-balls, given Dobbin's pace. Playing Coleman was a mistake; after not playing for a while, he then goes and plays two full games for Ireland. He was always going to feel it – even a 20-year-old would. Our problem is we can't do the basics, like passing a ball; shooting on goal is a joke; and marking and tracking your man. We have owners who don't communicate the truth to their fans and a board who, instead of making things happen, they wait for things to happen and then hope they will go away by themselves. Jack Convery 22 Posted 31/03/2024 at 06:33:16 Just watched the game highlights on MotD. We should have been awarded a penalty – no doubts, no ifs and no buts – it was a penalty. Why did Tarkowski duck under the cross that Solanke scored from? Why was Godfrey nowhere near Solanke?Why was Young on the bench when Dyche brought him in last summer as cover for Mykolenko?When Beto scored, Patterson looked bored on the bench. Obviously he wants out and has had enough.What was Pickford doing for the own-goal? He should have collected the cross.Why do I bother posting this when I feel like I can't be arsed any more? Alan J Thompson 23 Posted 31/03/2024 at 06:53:15 Sam (#3); Any relation to Ian, a good friend long out of touch. Danny O’Neill 24 Posted 31/03/2024 at 06:59:06 Bill, we just can't give it up.I was numb travelling home yesterday and just got my head down.We will be ready for Tuesday night. Well the supporters will be.Jack, you'll be bothered come the next match.I won't watch the highlights. I saw enough in front of my own eyes yesterday to judge that performance. Mihir Ambardekar 25 Posted 31/03/2024 at 07:07:39 Another weekend ruined. How can we be so atrocious! I am not understanding the fact that we are going with the same formation and same tactics which have not worked in last many games. What is restricting Dyche to change formation or tactics? Doing the same thing again and again expecting the results will change is insanity. Every manager who has graced us in the last few years has miserably failed. This time I believe we are doomed. Only faltering Luton & Forest will help us stay up. Colin Glassar 26 Posted 31/03/2024 at 07:10:31 Dyche. Dyche. Dyche. He is the problem. This is a mid-table team at best but he can't get a tune out of it to save his life. He continues with the same caveman tactics and formations every game with few exceptions.What the hell did they do with their time off? There's no understanding or cohesion amongst them. They play like strangers on the pitch.I'm not a huge Ashley Young fan but he would've been a better option at left-back than Godfrey. He was superb for Man Utd playing there. And what has Patterson to do to get a chance for a game? It's obvious now that there's something going on between him and the Kettering koppite. I could go on and on about his insistence on playing a lone striker. His reliance on Jack Harrison (a poor man's Iwobi). His poor, and late, substitutions etc… but it's not worth it.I think we just might stay up, on 30 points, as the teams around us continue to fail to take advantage of our pathetic shittiness. Paul Ferry 27 Posted 31/03/2024 at 08:08:18 Danny O'Neill @24: We will be ready for Tuesday night.Like we were today, Danny, after three fucking weeks and 105 fucking days without a win?Read Colin @26, Danny. Going the match is something I thank you for but it doesn't give you any privilege or expertise. Sorry, mate. In fact, your blinkered optimism in the face of reality can be annoying – avoiding the reality, like, for example, the many times you have said, "I don't care who is on the pitch" – and I say this with genuine respect.Get real for once, Danny, and please don't answer with the typical "We will be there and I hope the team shows up as well".Answer these questions, Danny, with respect:Is Dyche the right man, right now?I think we will stay up but why do you?Name one thing apart from the 1,500 that you saw today that made you believe that "We will be ready for Tuesday night"? One thing?Do you ever feel embarrassed by some of your silly OTT posts when we have not won for 105 days? Reality must sometimes sink in.Like many on here, I have affection and respect for you but you're in danger of turning into the court jester, mate.This is the lowest I have ever felt supporting us and I only missed 6 matches home or away from February 1984 until I moved to Chicago in August 2000. When it comes to Everton, I have always been an eternal optimist, until now. Dyche has beaten me.I love your blue skies, Danny, but ......So, forgive me, again, what are your views on Dyche, Danny? Give me footballing reasons why we will stay up – not daft Spirit of the Blues stuff. Instead of the usual blue bluster, Danny, I'd love to hear your pragmatic reasoning for why we should believe in Dyche and Everton.Genuine questions, mate, and I will always be ever so grateful for you, Rob, Neil, Mark, the West Country Blues, Brent, Paul Birmingham, and everyone else who turns up, week-in and week-out. Joe McMahon 28 Posted 31/03/2024 at 08:17:15 Bill @20 That was from the heart, you are not alone. I too don't refer back to the point deduction, or even state "we will beat this lot, they are shit". Why? – because we have a striker who has scored 3 goals in over 20 appearances who starts every game. A keeper who cannot command his area or collect crosses, and a manager who has 2 relegations on his CV and doesn't want to use his squad – be it Watford, Burnley or Everton. Everton have now won just 4 points from a possible 39. The football is woeful, and horrendous to watch. Everton have rarely achieved much in the entire history of the Premier League… as we know, the Joe Royle years were 30 years ago. Enter Kenwright, and everything has crumbled since. It's a good job the club is obsessed with history, as that is all we have.No wonder everyone wants us to go down, low-scoring, boring anti-football. When the Clarets scored in the Dyche years, the fans would chant "Anti-Football" as Newman & Baddiel used to say "That's you, that is". This is Everton 2024 with Dyche, Grand Old Team, Nil Satis… Andy Mead 29 Posted 31/03/2024 at 08:18:46 Time for Shaun "Mike Walker in disguise" Dyche to go.Forget points deductions, we haven't won in 12 games now. Tell me any other club, with any ambition at all who would let this continue? But wait, who's going to sack him? I've seen pub teams with better organization than us! 3 weeks away and we return with the same "tactics" formation and personnel that haven't worked every week.If I was playing at the back, I would be screaming at Pickford to just give me the ball short instead of aimless punts to nobody every time. We are so lucky that Luton and Forest can't get their shit together or we would be Bottom 3 already. We'll get beat by all of them, I'm sure.I bet Branthwaite can't wait for this season to end so he can leave this shambolic, amateur run outfit of ours, and who could blame him? And Patterson… it must be so frustrating sitting on our bench watching the same shite every week and thinking, what have I got to do to get a game? Harrison is awful, I don't care about his work rate, he does zero with the ball. Coleman is a legend, but his legs went last season, and we have sunk so low that he is being called for as first-choice full-back! That's how bad we are. All our chickens are coming home to roost this season. Get Dyche out, and get somebody who sets up to actually try and win a game. We must be the most boring side to watch in the Premier League. If we were winning, I could put up with that, but we aren't, are we? Jerome Shields 30 Posted 31/03/2024 at 08:29:07 To quote GJ Bulter's very worthwhile paraphrasing of a famous quote: "If you are not part of the problem, you are part of the solution."Dyche in the 3-week break with 1 week in Portugal became part of the problem. He did not get his regulars motivated, mainly because they have no faith in his tactics on top of their lack of bottle, and he failed to incorporate those who are not amongst his regulars into what is a threadbare squad.His substitution policy is the same with no rhyme nor reason. His performance against Bournemouth has exasperated this further. The next game needs a player rebound to get back on track. It will be the players themselves rather than Dyche who will achieve this. Dyche would be sacked by any other club for his current run of results, but such is Everton's situation, he won't be. A lot now rests on the result of the second Commission. Though I think that Everton will survive in the Premier League based on the inevitable twists and turns in the run-in, but it is going to be brutal to watch. Dave Abrahams 31 Posted 31/03/2024 at 08:45:19 All these posts point to what most of us see, a very poor squad to begin with is now in disarray with no leader on the pitch and sadly the manager off it failing to get his teams organised or playing with heart, spirit or any determination to concentrate and give the opposition any threat up front or playing together in defence.I was full of thoughts on the terrible performance of yesterday's game going to bed, woke up at 3 am to the realisation of that game then was consumed by them until I got up at 7-30 am and started to get ready for mass this morning.I hope I can keep my concentration, better than Everton's team did against Bournemouth, on the gospels and the sermon when I get there or it will be a complete waste of time.Never felt as low as this about the Blues as I do now and I'm struggling to see how we will get the few points that will keep us up. Andrew Clare 32 Posted 31/03/2024 at 09:13:06 I can't see us winning another game. If we get another points deduction, we will definitely be relegated. We rarely create clean-cut chances, barely ever create good moves from defence to attack, and when we do get the odd one or two chances, we fluff them.Dyche should go as it is quite obvious that all of our players bar one or two are playing well below their capabilities… but he won't because no one is in charge upstairs. Iain Crawford 33 Posted 31/03/2024 at 09:19:04 I am an eternal optimist, but Sean Dyche and this Everton team have somehow almost put the flame out. No creativity, no pace, no ambition whatsoever. Aimless crosses from non dangerous areas, no one ever running at a defence from midfield, or worse still from out wide. It all makes us nearly impossible to watch, you know there's no excitement to be had, just watching like a cabbage waiting for us to score a scrappy goal to achieve a draw or an unlikely win. Dire times for a great club.Dyche has inflicted severe damage upon himself after a 3-week break including warm weather training. He's come back with no new ideas or attacking inspiration. We're exactly as we were before, if not worse. Predicable and inert.It's no good moaning, we need solutions. The attack needs shaking up, try something new, it may fail but my god he's got to try after nearly 4 months with no win.I'm not saying at all the options are good or there's a magic formula but, sometimes a change or two can reap dividends, something clicks. I'm thinking Danjuma left, Gomes in the link at No 10 behind Beto, with Patterson replacing Harrison in the wide right-midfield role. Gomes at least can play football and may create something or retain some advance possession, Danjuma* adds a bit of directness and unpredictability into our attack, Patterson has attacking genes and likes to run at a defence, whilst still retaining some defensive tenacity. Beto again is aN unpredictable player and looks more likely to score lately than Calvert-Lewin.* If Danjuma is still unfit, play McNeil. Andrew McLawrence 34 Posted 31/03/2024 at 09:19:20 Looking across all the forums, it seems like it's 50/50 as to whether Dyche should go. There is merit in saying that no manager could get a tune out of these misfits and has-beens, but I'm very confident in saying that we will look back at this point in years to come and wonder, if the trigger had been pulled, could the outcome have been different? I don't think he will go, but surely it's time for a Hail Mary? Bill Fairfield 35 Posted 31/03/2024 at 09:23:37 It's extremely frustrating being a blue right now, I just want the season to end. It's like a never-ending nightmare. Praying we get the points we need for survival. Surely there's a couple of decent performances somewhere in this squad. Martin Farrington 36 Posted 31/03/2024 at 09:28:06 Sigh, deep sigh, sad sigh. We are a laughing stock of a football club. It doesn't help when, as I have said previously, we are a team of bottlers never ready for the occasion. Jeez, Bournemouth did their best to let us win. It was there for the taking. (How many times has that been said?)Pickford has lost the plot.Calvert-Lewin is Dele Alli #2 (albeit probably without the hardships that guy has suffered). Stone and Woan ought to be ashamed. They should tell Dyche to put the youngsters on and Beto upfront or they quit.The players in the threadbare squad are unwanted misfits with the exception of Branthwaite. Each game that passes, we are in danger of devaluing him. Onana, Harrison, McNeil, Godfrey, Garner, Doucoure, Calvert-Lewin ought to reach into their very wealthy pockets and refund every travelling fan for every game including costs plus travelling time. Season ticket holders too should be refunded.In total, that's collectively about 10 minutes of pay to that lot. Pickford should go for Electric Shock Therapy on match days. He ain't been the same since that ludicrous penalty incident. Watch him at corners and set plays. He is behind the goal line. He has become a vampire.Can't wait for another points deduction. Financial bankruptcy here we come – we already are bankrupt on the pitch. Mark Murphy 37 Posted 31/03/2024 at 09:31:44 I've had 3 weeks of waking up happy… and then that!I keep reading “We'll be okay – there are still 5 winnable games to go.†Well, this time yesterday we had 6 winnable games left and before the West Ham game we had 7. I can't figure out why, but I don't see us winning even 2 of those, let alone 5. The team is bereft of confidence and ideas and when nothing changes, loss after loss, then it's difficult to see an exit from this spiral. Kevin Edward 38 Posted 31/03/2024 at 09:32:37 We should have had a penalty awarded for the ‘contact' on Calvert-Lewin. VAR again choosing to deny us what most other teams get time and time again. However, we don't seem to have anyone capable of scoring so probably would have missed anyway.I don't care about a bouncing ball and who should have dealt with it, Seamus didn't need to do whatever it was he thought he was doing. He'll have to take that one I'm afraid.We are so so poor at the moment, there was no reset during the 3-week break, goals change games and except for Beto being in the mix, it looks likely that we will not survive if more points are deducted.This bunch and the manager have almost sucked the joy out of football for most of us, but it is just football and can be turned around. It's on Dyche now 100%. Hoping that not wanting to be the worst Everton manager ever (and he's had some stiff competition) will help him come up with a miracle. Ernie Baywood 39 Posted 31/03/2024 at 09:37:00 Andrew 34, we the fans might want a different outcome.But the likely outcome the way we're going is probably just fine for everyone at the club from Dyche upwards.I believe we'll drift to safety. This year at least.Personally I think our club's leadership misses the point that safety can't be the only aim. It's the primary aim but there are a generation of Evertonians who I believe will be lost to this club and you don't recover a generation of fans that easily. They're losing the very thing that makes Everton a great club. Kunal Desai 40 Posted 31/03/2024 at 09:38:32 I fear this time next week, combined with another points deduction and Burnley coming to Goodison and taking 3 points, we'll be in the Bottom 3, and we'll remain there for the remainder of the season. Danny Baily 41 Posted 31/03/2024 at 10:08:14 Ernie 39, drift to safety? We're in all likelihood already around 3 points from safety. Morale is in the toilet and there's the very real prospect of a failed takeover resulting in administration.The gig is up. David Bromwell 42 Posted 31/03/2024 at 10:10:47 Every couple of weeks, we get an update on the progress of the construction of our beautiful new stadium. It looks fantastic, the design and craftsmanship wonderful, it gives me real feelings of pride and joy. And then reality strikes, will the stadium be ours, will it be completed, and in which league will we be in?Then there is the manager, and our team. And the truth is neither are very good. No doubting Dyche does his very best in the most difficult of circumstances, but his tactics, selections and substitutions are all cautious, clearly not working and boring. Before yesterday he had 3 weeks to come up with something different and failed miserably.Why for instance was Coleman allowed to play two full games for Ireland? Godfrey has been awful at right-back but he is switched to left-back, the midfield has hardly functioned all season, and the two wingers are slow and seldom put in dangerous crosses. And Calvert-Lewin, who has not scored for months, is played as a lone striker?Yes, I know the manager has limited resources, but surely it's time for something different. Dyche did make us hard to play against, but that's gone, we are making mistakes in defence, the midfield barely exists as a unit, and we play with a single forward. Nobody wants this situation to continue so let's have something different so we at least feel we have some hope. Sadly, I well remember the Mike Walker days; it was awful then but it's far worse now.Apologies to all for the moan, and the rambling words, but I cannot think of anything more hopeful. Mike Doyle 43 Posted 31/03/2024 at 10:29:27 Leaving aside the Newcastle game (as I expected Dyche already has that scheduled as a defeat – good luck to those climbing the 140 steps on Tuesday), we need to change something for Burnley.About the only option I can think of is to go 3-5-2, as that at least pushes the midfield higher to support Calvert-Lewin or Beto. Presumably though we'll stick with the usual 4-4-1-1 and hope to nick a goal from a set-piece. Kenny Smith 44 Posted 31/03/2024 at 10:33:47 I genuinely didn't think I'd see a shitter performance from an Everton manager than I saw with Mike Walker. Arguably the top flight is stronger now but this is not acceptable for us or anyone. He has to go or we are finished. But who's still in charge to sack him? The players clearly have no faith in the fella or his out-of-date Conference League tactics. There are 3 winnable home games coming up and we need 9 points. Dyche won't win 9 corners across the 3 games. Get rid before it's too late. James Marshall 45 Posted 31/03/2024 at 11:39:09 As I understand it, Dyche is on a contract until around July 2025, which pays him £5m a year. We can't afford to sack him and his staff. Nor can we afford a new manager and his staff, so forget it, we're stuck with Dyche for the foreseeable future.All we have to do, pending the potential second points deduction, is keep up with the teams below us, and of course we play them so I suspect the only games that will truly matter, are when we play Forest, Burnley and Luton. Those will likely decide who goes down. Dave Williams 46 Posted 31/03/2024 at 11:39:13 Their goals were atrocious and, taken with the England error, Pickford has had a very poor week. His mental state at Newcastle is always suspect and he always worries me. Yes, he makes good saves but there is always a mistake in him and he reminds me of Gordon West who was poor on crosses but a great shot-stopper. I'd be very tempted to play Virginia on Tuesday as he has looked commanding this season and ready to be played.The Doucouré experiment up front worked for a while but isn't working now. Play him and Gana in centre midfield with Garner wide right and McNeil left (assuming Dobbin is unavailable). Two up front with one being Danjuma when fit – not that he has earned it but we must try something new and whoever thought Doucouré would be a success up front?Putting Keane up front is not as silly as it sounds – at least for half an hour if we need to. I remember a centre-half for Sheffield Wednesday in the '80s called Paul Warhurst. They moved him up front in a crisis and he scored something like 11 in 13 games and got into the England squad. Sometimes trying something different can just fire up the rest. Patterson in wide right midfield would help liven things up or give Chemitti some decent time rather than 3 minutes. If we can't look fresh after a 3-week break, then we have to try something new. Newcastle have a number of good players out injured and their defence isn't great. Now is the time for the manager to earn his money and make some brave decisions using some yet-to-be-seen imagination. We can't be worse than yesterday so roll the dice in an away game we are expected to lose and see if there is something new we can work with. Neil Lawson 47 Posted 31/03/2024 at 11:48:58 Andrew @34. Not sure which the other forums are (Redshite ones perhaps) but concluding that the current overall split on Dyche is 50/50 suggests about 90/10 on the other forums!! I can't see a lot of supporters on TW. The best he gets is that he has been dealt a dreadful hand but is trying hard and there is no one else. However, if you keep playing your mid-ranged trumps when the picture trumps are still in someone else's hand, the outcome is inevitable. Dave Lynch 48 Posted 31/03/2024 at 11:50:53 The points deduction is a convenient excuse.When those players cross the white line, the only thing in their mind should be the game in front of them. That was so poor yesterday, it was beyond the realms of mediocrity. I was offered a coach seat and ticket for that game and chose instead to go fishing and boy am I glad I did. That performance was down to Dyche, I've a feeling he's not respected by the players, they look bemused and bereft of confidence, structure and passion. God help us if Newcastle go at us full tilt, it could be carnage. Colin Callaghan 49 Posted 31/03/2024 at 12:03:58 We should've had a penalty. Branthwaite at fault for the first; Pickford and Branthwaite at fault for the 2nd.Dyche played 2 strikers when we were chasing. We blame Dyche a lot but our players are crap and we don't have many options.Dom won almost every ball to him and we got almost zero 2nd balls off him. Pat Kelly 50 Posted 31/03/2024 at 12:20:13 We can't rule out the psychological impact on the players and manager of the financial disaster we're in, the points deduction and the looming second deduction. I know they're all well paid and, supposedly, professional, but confidence is a key element in football. At present there is nothing to be confident about. All the omens are dire. The club's future off the pitch looks every bit as uncertain as the team on the pitch. There is nothing to take inspiration from. They all look like they're facing the firing squad week after week. We just need to survive somehow. Jim Bennings 52 Posted 31/03/2024 at 12:37:30 Rubbish, Pat.Most of them only care about the next big move they are getting and increased wages.There's always an excuse, injuries, suspension, the colour of the grass, the shape of the ball.Always an excuse. Dave Lynch 53 Posted 31/03/2024 at 12:38:30 Psychological impact... my arse!!They are pro footballers who are paid millions to play football. Do you really think if another club came in for 90% of those players with better wages, they'd stay? Would they fuck!The way we play (or don't for that matter) is down to tactics and management, both of which are abominable. Andy Meighan 54 Posted 31/03/2024 at 13:25:56 His post-match comment that we only had 1 day to prepare for the game had me flabbergasted.No, dickhead, you had 3 weeks, yes, that's right, 3 weeks to draw a line under what went on before Portugal.3 weeks to try different systems, 3 weeks to try different patterns, 3 weeks to get them super fit. Let's face it, them 3 weeks were a mini pre-season.Yesterday our shit players looked lethargic, tired and downright lazy, there wasn't one iota of urgency from them when 1-0 down and 2-1 down.I watched Brentford last night rattle the woodwork 4 times against Man Utd, I doubt we've hit it 4 times all season.I said after the Palace home game we won't win another game under this fella while secretly hoping I was being reactive after another poor performance. I sincerely hope I'm wrong but don't think I will be. Dave Lynch 55 Posted 31/03/2024 at 13:37:01 And another thing... for all the psychologically affected posters.I'm an NHS nurse and we all know what state that's in, do I psychologically let it affect the way I look after patients?No, I don't; I do my level best for them. Jack Convery 56 Posted 31/03/2024 at 13:39:15 Surely it's time for Dyche to shake things up. Only trouble is, with our squad, there's not too much to mix up. For Newcastle, to mix it up a little and put a shot across the bows of some of our players:GK: Virginia (Pickford needs a time out).RB: Patterson (Coleman 4 games in 10 days too much, Godfrey's an athlete not a footballer, Young a late sub now and no more than that).CBs: Tarkowski and Branthwaite (The best pairing we have by far).LB: McNeil (Godfrey is not a left-back, Young, see above, If Mykolenko has had flu, he will be in no shape for this game. McNeil has started at left-back twice under Dyche and we have taken 4 points – Wolves away last season and Burnley at home this season).RM: Garner (last 15 minutes, Young).CM: Gueye if fit with Onana (otherwise Doucoure with Onana ).LM: Harrison (In the hope that playing in front of McNeil will bring the best out of both of them).AM: Gomes (I know, but when he played v Spurs in this position, he did okay).Beto: He's scoring goals – 2 in last 3 games (for EFC forwards, that's miraculous).Virgina, Patterson, Tarkowski, Branthwaite, McNeil, Garner, Gueye, Onana, Harrison, Gomes, Beto. and may they do the business and shut the Barcodes up! Dean Williams 57 Posted 31/03/2024 at 13:55:15 I think a change is essential at this point. Alls we can hope for is a new manager bounce. Ed Prytherch 58 Posted 31/03/2024 at 13:59:17 No creativity in the team but Garner, Onana and McNeil are not bad players. But when the keeper and centre-backs are instructed to launch the ball over their heads, they lose motivation. Dyche is so scared of conceding a goal that his tactics prevent us from scoring. Dean Williams 59 Posted 31/03/2024 at 14:04:51 Your chatting rubbish, Pat, simples. Jim Bennings 60 Posted 31/03/2024 at 14:06:40 Might be a good shout of leaving Pickford out for Tuesday night, he always struggles with blotting out the abuse he gets off the Mars bar munchers up there.The last thing we need is him dicking about, he's made a few elementary errors lately and I'm not doubting him as a goalkeeper here but he does have mental lapses at times.What gets me is Dyche takes them away for a warm weather training break, then tells reporters that he's just had them doing the same things as always during training, why not try getting them to play some other style? Dave Lynch 61 Posted 31/03/2024 at 14:07:38 Put some pace upfront.Chermiti and Dobbin... can't get any worse than what's currently happening. Jerome Shields 62 Posted 31/03/2024 at 14:16:56 Pat #51,I know where you are coming from, but Dyche's squad utilisation since before Xmas has been poor and he seems to have had no attacking coaching ideas. What this game showed was that he hadn't addressed these issues over the break.Coupled with that, we got the normal lethargic after-the-break display we normally get. What we could get the next game is a step up in performance as the whole lot realise they have to put some effort in. But Dyche's predictable tactics is a problem since the level of the defensive performance has dropped. I don't think many of the players give a fig leave about PSR Rules as long as they are getting their wages. Sean Mitchell 63 Posted 31/03/2024 at 14:31:20 Were the players getting bladdered in Portugal? I wonder if Dyche is bladdered all of the time with his team selections and god awful play. Maybe they were bladdered when headslapgate happened. Patterson asking why an athlete who can't play football has taken his place, and why he's also behind two finished players. The athlete is then moved to left-back when we have 2 left footers in the first team. Brings on (not so) Young when the game needed to be won. Agent Rafa, they said. Drunken Dyche these days. I truly feel for the fans who travelled (and my dad who made the long trip as well). The recurring nightmare continues. Mike Doyle 64 Posted 31/03/2024 at 15:16:44 Sean 63, I used to feel great sympathy for fans who made long trips and were rewarded with consistently disappointing performances.However, after speaking with one of my mother's neighbours (who missed only 2 games last season), he said I shouldn't as it's so easy to predict what is likely to happen. They know what is coming before they set out. He admits it's an addiction that he cannot wean himself off. Karen Mason 65 Posted 31/03/2024 at 16:08:09 I know that you shouldn't write letters/emails/posts when you are really down or angry. So my apolgies for my post in advance. I have always been one of the happy clappy, 'never say die' crewe, but even I can't lift my spirits after that performance yesterday. After a long winless run, then a 3 week break, my hope was that our team would come out, guns blazing & re-energised. Having had 11 games to identify what was going wrong and 3 weeks to change the way they play, to bring about a different result, hope sprung eternal. I honestly don't blame the players, as some of you do. I blame the tactics of turgid football. We have a striker who is capable of scoring 20 goals in a season. DCL has proved that. Yet, with the style of play ( and I use the word 'style' loosely) he is required to chase around the pitch after the ball. Then left isolated with a long ball hoofed by Pickford, time after time. No wonder we never get a penalty. Our loan striker is hardly in the box to be fouled. Jeez, if I can see this, why can't Dyche and the coaches. Why doesn't Dyche or a coach ask DCL, what were you ( or the team) doing differently when you scored 20 goals in a season and adopt some of those ideas ? As a Manager or a coach surely you must have a plan B of how to play, if plan A isn't working. Instead, us Bluenoses are subjected to the same old tactics and team selection every game. McNeil is nowhere near his best. Harrison is caught on the ball or gives it away cheaply - a left footer, playing on the right, out of form and lacking in confidence - when we have Lewis Dobbin on the bench, who at least has pace to scare defenders. If a player is out of form - drop them. Change it ! Introduce some pace into the team. I believe in the old saying - if it ain't broken, don't fix it.But when is it so clearly broken only an idiot (or somebody very stubborn) does the same thing over and over, expecting a different result. The thing that has made me lose all hope of the change that needs to come in our way of playing to keep us up, is that Dyche did exactly the same thing at Burnley. Refused to change anything about way they played or the team selection. So his has a history with this exact scenario. Sorry about the rant people, I know you are all feeling it too, but I was completely gutted after the performance yesterday, never mind the result. Like we have said so many times before, it's the hope that kills you ! I wish I didn't care, or could stop caring, but I can't. I am not religious, but I will pray to the God of Goodison - Howard Kendal - for some divine intervention. 🙠Sam Callister 66 Posted 31/03/2024 at 16:24:17 Alan (#23) - yes, my Dad. Unfortunately, I'm sorry to say but he passed away. A massive blue as you will already know. Passed it on to me and my brothers. Just glad he hasn't had to witness this mess. UTT. Jim Bennings 67 Posted 31/03/2024 at 16:26:49 The irony of the whole situation would be funny if it wasn't such a disaster.Dyche and his own words about Frank Lampards Everton in April 2022 "they don't know how to win". This came at a time when Dyche's Burnley team had won a meagre 4 games all season prior to beating us 3-2 that night at Turf Moor and was a week later sacked by the Clarets.Now Dyche find himself in that very same situation almost two years to the day he spoke those words which arguably were nowhere near as true then as they are now. At least under Lampard we did beat Newcastle, Manchester United, Leeds, Chelsea and Leicester around that period. Alan J Thompson 68 Posted 31/03/2024 at 16:50:55 Sam(#66); That upsets me greatly, he was a very good friend and there was another team that vied for his affection, Whitby Rangers. If there is some way that I can contact you I have an email photo that may interest you. David Cooper 69 Posted 31/03/2024 at 17:11:27 After yesterday's defensive meltdown we still have the 6th best defence in the PL. We have given up 41 goals in 29 games.its only thanks to this impressive stat that we are in the best goal differential among those around us which gives an extra point over them.SD is obviously banking on our defence to get us to safety as history tells him or us that we are not going to score our way out of trouble. I think this is the reason we basically play with 8 outfield “defendersâ€. I count all of yesterday's midfield 4 plus Gana when he plays whose first task is to stop the opposition from getting near the goal in open play. This has been pretty effective until we have to defend corners and free kicks.At this point it doesn't matter if we think this makes for atrocious football but I believe SD is playing the odds which are in favour of defending although we have been undone by WHU, Brighton and Bournemouth by failing to do this until the final whistle. It would be great to hear what Dyche's master plan is but I genuinely think he firmly believes that sooner or later DCL will score, we will get lucky with a scrappy goal or even given a penalty which we will convert.It is a very dangerous way to play where when we don't score first we lose. I'm sure he knows this but has decided this defensive plan gives us the best chance of survival even if it is only going out not to lose or even to lose by the minimum number of goals. Which of us would take in the last 9 games defensive minded football bordering occasionally on the boring and atrocious to keep us in the PL next season despite how many more points we get docked? Charles Ward 70 Posted 31/03/2024 at 17:21:52 I'm no statto but yesterday Bournemouth's crossing accuracy was 23% and ours a pathetic 8%.How can we expect an out of form DCL to score with such atrocious service? Sean Mitchell 71 Posted 31/03/2024 at 17:30:31 Mike #64. Addiction being the correct word and why we have the best and most loyal fans on this planet. I wish there were rewards and awards for it. Jerome Shields 72 Posted 31/03/2024 at 18:00:06 Charles#70The big concern is that Dyche apparent strength before Xmas was a improvement in individual player stats.He has even quoted stats admitting being baffled by failure to improve, blaming players. The stats seems to have deteriorated further in the Bournemouth game. It looked like no work was put in to rectify this.What more in the interests of improving this selection and substitutions totally ignored any attempt address this.Everton at this stage of the season fall away in stats for every recent Manager.The problem with Dyche is that his formation and tactics are. 100 percent predictable throughout a game and the opposition can spendtime prepareing to exploit or snuff out any chance of players improving in the certainty of how Everton will play against them. In the Premier League such predictability is a gift to other Teams. Charles Ward 73 Posted 31/03/2024 at 18:13:20 Jerome the failure to improve is down to poor coaching.We are fortunate that there appear to be three worse teams than us. Colin Callaghan 74 Posted 31/03/2024 at 19:16:33 Charles I disagreeThe failure to improve is only fractionally the fault of the coach at this levelThese are professionals and should be judged accordingly. Our players are awful and don't look botheredI do agree that the only reason we stay up is 3 worse teamsI would give anything for one player like Odegaard. Skill of a 10, puts in the yards/effort of an 8, not afraid to tackle like a 6. Charles Ward 75 Posted 31/03/2024 at 19:54:02 Colin they are professionals but a good coach and his back up team should be able to improve those players otherwise we are in stasis. Ernie Baywood 76 Posted 31/03/2024 at 20:35:48 It's the manager's job to get the best out of players.If I look at who is being played to their strengths then it's probably just Pickford, Tark and Braithwaite.Not one of the other players would want to be playing this style. And it shows - they're working hard but they don't look like they want to be there and they're certainly not enjoying their football. Every one of them would rather be somewhere else.Yes it's their job, but they're still people. Anyone who has led people in any kind of sporting or professional environment will know that it's no way to get the best out of people. Ian Pilkington 77 Posted 31/03/2024 at 20:44:02 In seven decades of watching the club I've never felt as low as this. The despicable PL has unfairly punished supporters for the Board's incompetence and has prevaricated over dismissing the most obviously unsuitable prospective owners, whilst we are presented today with more awful financial news.Meanwhile Dyche, after guiding a squad of mid-table players into what should be a comfortable mid-table position has proved over the last dozen matches what many of us feared; that he is an intransigent manager in all aspects of team selection, tactics and match management.Epitomising his approach is his continued selection of McNeil and Harrison. The former (26 appearances) has been unfortunate as he has been clearly unfit for some games and has suffered serious domestic concerns, plus he played well last season, but Harrison? We have had some awful players in the past who've played only a handful of games but I cannot recall a worse player who has “enjoyed†a run of 23 appearances. Danjuma (when fit) and the now injured Dobbin have been overlooked in favour of two wingers whose only consistency has been a failure to perform week after week. Thoroughly depressing. Neil Lawson 78 Posted 31/03/2024 at 21:53:57 Karen 65. Not a rant. You are merely stating with passion what so many of us can see. I read that Young is to be offered a new contract. There's the future for us in a nutshell. Colin Callaghan 79 Posted 31/03/2024 at 22:43:16 Ernie, por favorrr…How many nurses work for doctors they don't like, performing a treatment plan they may not agree with, and manage to not let the patient suffer?Don't relate ordinary people to these overpaid prima donnas. You're right, they don't look like they want to be there. But if your boss has the power to make you not want to perform at your dream job, then the problem is not your boss, it's you.Frank had us playing soooo much worse, how do we forget that? We leaked goals constantly. Now we have one of the best defenses and midtable xG. Danny O’Neill 80 Posted 31/03/2024 at 22:48:43 Karen, feel free to rant. It was a tough watch.After the trip to the South Coast, we now head up to the Northeast.Amazing supporters. If only the team could match them. Phil Lewis 81 Posted 01/04/2024 at 01:59:54 Of the remaining fixtures, all are questionable as to us gaining points, while five are realistically winnable. Five wins would take us to the traditional safety of 40 points. But then of course, we have the very real threat of further points reduction adding to our sorry dilemma. To give ourselves a fighting chance of survival, Dyche must make radical tactical changes, drop players who have clearly underperformed, and promote those who've been waiting their chance. Ditch the two wingers strategy, it's not working. Start playing through the middle. Harrison ought to be dropped immediately. Personally, I would be tempted to revert to a 4-2-3-1:Coleman, Tarkowski, Branthwaite, Mykolenko. Gueye, Onana.Garner, Gomes, McNeil.Calvert-Lewin. Nobody's place should be automatic. Pickford included.The longer Dyche continues without changing selection, the more dire our perilous situation becomes. Colin Glassar 82 Posted 01/04/2024 at 07:49:45 Paul Ferry, spot on. My sentiments entirely. Frank Sheppard 83 Posted 01/04/2024 at 09:10:14 We financially cannot afford to sack another manager. I think sacking Dyche would also be more likely to be disruptive rather than create any bounce (of the dead cat variety). Rob Dolby 84 Posted 01/04/2024 at 10:17:15 What was the point of the Portugal trip? A squad galvanising exercise has backfired. Up until the break we had a team fighting for each other albeit with low quality but they were fighting each game and I give credit to Dyche for that.The slap on Patterson may well have been blown up out of proportion but that display yesterday was of 11 players that didn't fight against a struggling team. Nobody complained about the pen, no team spirit.I visit this site multiple times a day to catch up on news and opinion. I enjoy the posts of many on here even if I don't agree with them. By nature I am pretty cynical and generally a realist about most things especially the blues. I enjoy the reality check I get from the optimistic posters who show a real passion that I don't naturally have. The never say die attitude does pick me up and gives me hope even if I know in the back of my mind that we are shite. The many travelling fans that will make their way up to st.James park on Tuesday know the odds are stacked against us but the beauty of sport is that we do have a chance. Charles Ward 85 Posted 01/04/2024 at 14:12:49 Rob it'll be 11 v 11 at Newcastle.Hopefully their injuries affect them and complacency sets in after their recent stirring comeback. Sam Callister 86 Posted 01/04/2024 at 21:24:02 Alan (#68) Yes - Whitby Rangers! That's brought a smile to my face, I remember him talking about them and all the stories following Everton, with his mates! Days on the Echo etc. I'll contact the admin here and see if they can pass on my email to you? Hope you're well and sorry you had to find out about my Dad this way. Alan J Thompson 87 Posted 02/04/2024 at 06:42:50 Sam (#86); I'm sure you and I have met briefly, once when you and your brothers returned to the Netley as you didn't have enough to get in the ground as you'd bought hamburgers on the way up, and Callister rather than McCallister and I think I helped your mother with you in your pram up those stairs at the Chester Echo office, knees up Mrs Brown at Leeds Uni, and numerous Whitby 'Gers stories.I hope Admin can help. Add Your Comments In order to post a comment, you need to be logged in as a registered user of the site. » Log in now Or Sign up as a ToffeeWeb Member — it's free, takes just a few minutes and will allow you to post your comments on articles and Talking Points submissions across the site. How to get rid of these ads and support TW © ToffeeWeb