Season › 2024-25 › News Broja out for up to 12 weeks with ankle injury Michael Kenrick 16/01/2025 48comments | Jump to last Armando Broja will be sidelined for at least 12 weeks with an ankle ligament injury, says manager David Moyes. The 23-year-old, who joined the club on loan from Chelsea last summer, left the pitch on a stretcher following a challenge during Everton's FA Cup 3rd Round victory over Peterborough last Thursday. The Albania international suffered an Achilles injury during pre-season which scuppered a move to Ipswich before he joined Everton on loan, where he spent the next 3 months in the treatment room before he was eventually given his debut as a late sub by Sean Dyche against Wolves in December. "We think he's going to be out for somewhere between 10-12 weeks," Everton boss David Moyes said following the disappointing 1-0 defeat by Aston Villa on Wednesday. "It's his ankle ligaments. It'll probably mean there's a possibility that he will have to go back to Chelsea." Broja has made just five Premier League appearances this season, without scoring. In December 2022 Broja suffered an anterior cruciate ligament injury that kept him out until September the following year. Reader Comments (48) Note: the following content is not moderated or vetted by the site owners at the time of submission. Comments are the responsibility of the poster. Disclaimer () Paul Hewitt 1 Posted 16/01/2025 at 09:31:04 I said when we got him on loan injured, it was a stupid thing to do. On this transfer alone, Thelwell wants sacking. Andy Berrington 2 Posted 16/01/2025 at 09:35:56 Agreed re Thelwell. He can't help that Broja got injured the other night – but why waste one of the few loans we had on someone who wasn't going to be match-ready for months of the season?? I'd just give full control of transfers to Moyes and sack the DoF role off in the summer. It hasn't worked for us at all since bringing one in (ie, Walsh, Brands, Thelwell). Colin Glassar 3 Posted 16/01/2025 at 09:39:24 A possibility he might have to go back to Chelsea? Paul Hewitt 4 Posted 16/01/2025 at 09:40:11 Do we still have to pay his wages? Michael Lynch 5 Posted 16/01/2025 at 10:02:23 Another one who will only be remembered as a question in a pub quiz.Only a club as desperate as Everton would have taken on the likes of Broja and Dele Alli. I just hope that, under the new ownership, we leave this kind of thing behind.Best wishes to him, clearly a talented player and clearly the only reason we signed him was because nobody else was stupid enough to take a badly injured player on a short-term loan. Crocks R Us has been our motto for far too long… Garry Martin 6 Posted 16/01/2025 at 10:22:04 Broja, Alli, even Calvert-Lewin, plus many more over the years… EFC paying millions to players who seem to treat the club as a recovery clinic; no wonder we're in dire straits. James Marshall 7 Posted 16/01/2025 at 10:34:52 We're an extremely unattractive proposition to any player — just because we think Everton is the greatest club in the world, doesn't mean anyone else does.Remember, footballers of playing age now have never seen a good Everton side apart from the 'best of the rest' team under Moyes. The rest of the time, we're a footnote in English football and mostly fighting relegation so we can't attract good players.Hence why we end up with the likes of Gazza, Ginola, Eto'o, Rooney etc at the end of their careers. The rest of the time, we're lucky to pick up decent younger players who can't get a game at their clubs for various reasons.As a result, Thelwell has had no choice but to take a punt on players like Dele and Broja. It was either them or some unknown player from the lower leagues, which is a punt in itself. By the same token, we have also picked up players like Garner, Iroegbunam, Lindstrom and Mangala who also couldn't get a game at their respective clubs, so to lay into Thelwell over Dele and Broja seems a bit harsh.Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't. Paul Hewitt 8 Posted 16/01/2025 at 10:41:18 James @7. That is Thelwell's job — to recruit better players. Less so-called glamour clubs seem to do it. James Marshall 9 Posted 16/01/2025 at 10:51:18 Paul - as I already said above, we're a very unattractive club to come and play for. We have serious, well-documented money problems, issues over ownership (now resolved), points deductions, managers in & out of a revolving door, total instability, and close to relegation every year.Those less so-called glamour clubs are actually way more attractive than we are. If you're a teenager, or a kid in your 20s, all you know of Everton is how we're a total mess, and a rubbish team.Brighton, Brentford, Forest, and any London club has an advantage over us, in that young men see them as well run clubs, and they are. So therefore they have little interest in us, and we get players who come for the money but with little motivation to succeed with us – or use us as a stepping-stone like Stones, Lukaku, Digne, Onana etc have done.It's not as simple as, "Everton have a rich history, therefore we're attractive". No, we're not. We've been a mess for nigh-on 30 years, we play awful football under managers like Dyche and Allardyce, and we're in Liverpool in a shit old stadium (about to change obviously). Young players would much rather live in London and play for Fulham, Brentford, Palace or West Ham and there's nothing we can do about that (never mind Arsenal, Chelsea, Spurs).We have to modernise, change everything, ditch all the old watery-eyed shite and become a modern club if we're to attract good players and compete again. Andy Crooks 10 Posted 16/01/2025 at 10:54:29 Paul Hewitt, a player gets injured in a freak incident and you believe that the man responsible for recruiting him should be sacked? Wow, even by your standards, that is a beaut. David Bromwell 11 Posted 16/01/2025 at 10:55:36 Re Thelwell, what does Director of Football really mean?Seems to me we did better with a Chief Scout, probably cost less too. Neil Lawson 12 Posted 16/01/2025 at 10:58:36 It would be helpful to know and understand what issues or limitations there may be upon simply cancelling the loan. Makes no sense to retain him and we need the loan spot for a different crock!! It would be a serious dereliction of duty if the terms of the loan force us to keep him. Harrison can drive him back to Chelsea and pop back up the motorway to Leeds. Then we can sign 2 crocks!! Derek Knox 13 Posted 16/01/2025 at 11:10:56 Good point, Neil, not sure if a dispensation can be granted regarding Broja's loan though. As I understand it, the terms as they stand prevent us from sending him back anyway. Now whether the fact he will effectively not play again in the 2025 season could be mitigation towards that end.I have said for ages now that Harrison must go back as being not fit for purpose, past sell-by date! Jim Bennings 14 Posted 16/01/2025 at 11:12:17 I'm assuming he will be sent back to Chelsea now where he will hopefully make a recovery, it's so sad for the lad but we need to think of the club.We need to steer clear of these types of signings in the future, too many times over the years we've signed players who have had horrific injury records. James Marshall 15 Posted 16/01/2025 at 11:15:18 Lots of reports say we're trying to get Evan Ferguson on loan from Brighton. Pat Kelly 16 Posted 16/01/2025 at 11:16:05 Thelwell signed a crock. And a lot of duds. He needs replacing before he does more damage. Paul Hewitt 17 Posted 16/01/2025 at 11:21:46 Andy #10.He shouldn't have been here in the first place. Rennie Smith 18 Posted 16/01/2025 at 11:25:03 Having a go at Thelwell for Broja being injured is a bit ridiculous, if he got hit by a bus, cycling out of Finch Farm, would it be Thelwell's fault? If you really need to satisfy your desire for a witch-hunt, surely the medical assessors would be the place to start. Charles Ward 19 Posted 16/01/2025 at 11:25:43 Holpefully this injury encourages Friedkin to loosen whatever purse strings they hold and go out and buy someone who can;A) RunB) Hit the ball into the net Eddie Dunn 20 Posted 16/01/2025 at 11:32:14 I wonder if we could get Christian Eriksen from Man Utd. Classy passer and a deadball expert. Ian Wilkins 21 Posted 16/01/2025 at 11:39:35 We should be exploring his return to Chelsea for his rehabilitation, insurers paying wages. Cancellation of loan agreement freeing up a loan space…Provided the Premier League don't attempt to block it… Eddie Dunn 22 Posted 16/01/2025 at 11:42:33 Moyes hinted that money was there but he was unsure whar we are allowed to spend in terms of PSR.I expect Broja to go home and Ferguson to roll in. Paul Hewitt 23 Posted 16/01/2025 at 11:43:16 And why is Thelwell supposedly after a young winger from France with zero goals or assists this season?Palace and Bournemouth are both after a young lad from Millwall called Esse. He's absolutely rapid, plays on the right, and has a couple of goals and assists. But guess who we would prefer? Dennis Stevens 24 Posted 16/01/2025 at 11:55:21 If we sign anybody this window then it needs to be a striker who can play the lone role & finish… Even if they haven't previously done so in the Premier League. Robert Tressell 25 Posted 16/01/2025 at 12:06:46 Esse looks like a good prospect, Paul. Possibly better than Nuamah – who compares to a player like Sulemana at Saints.The issue may well be payment arrangements to the selling club and the player's own preference. All of our transfer activity since Ancelotti has been driven by what is available on the market in light of crippling financial constraints and PSR. That will probably ease in summer but possibly not in January. Thelwell can't just sign who he'd actually like to sign. We're miles off that. Eric Myles 26 Posted 16/01/2025 at 12:07:17 Rennie #18, "Having a go at Thelwell for Broja being injured is a bit ridiculous"Not when you consider that he was injured when he signed him — and not expected back on the grass for 3 months!!! Paul Hewitt 27 Posted 16/01/2025 at 12:09:40 Robert @25. I think Millwall value the lad at £14M. And as we probably don't have that now, I would offer them a loan with obligations to buy and pay them a bit extra. He is only 19 and, like I've said, he's rapid with 5 goals this season. Frank Crewe 28 Posted 16/01/2025 at 12:10:50 Eddie @22, Just what we need. Another player in his 30s in our midfield. We already have the third-oldest squad in the Premier League. Adding more aging legs to it will not improve the situation. Unless we want the oldest squad in the Premier League, of course.What we need is more players like Iliman Ndiaye. Young, fit and aggressive. So let's start moving these overpaid older players just running down their contracts out and start bringing some younger fresh faces in. Jim Bennings 29 Posted 16/01/2025 at 12:18:03 Evan Ferguson looks a good prospect, albeit still in the early years of his progression, he's much much further down the line than say a Chermiti, another whose career since he arrived hasn't got further than the garden path.We need players to seriously come in and hit the ground running.What Moyes was probably known best for was bringing players in that made Everton a better side.How he and us could do with an inspirational window like January 2012 – what we'd do for Pienaar, Donovan, Gibson, Jelavic this month. Stephen Davies 30 Posted 16/01/2025 at 12:18:50 Apparently we've been offered William, who's a Free Agent Joe McMahon 31 Posted 16/01/2025 at 12:20:12 Frank, not to mention the lump of concrete Harrison was also injured when we got him. Why do we go for such players? Do we ever learn? The Darron Gibson experience obviously was a lesson not learnt. Robert Tressell 32 Posted 16/01/2025 at 12:22:03 Paul # 27, and Millwall then weigh that up against getting £14M now (which they might reinvest in January). And the player weighs up the option of moving to Bournemouth or Palace which he may prefer. I'm guessing we'd have to offer quite a big sweetener to Millwall and much higher wages to make this work in practice. Thelwell will be exploring all sorts of options like this I expect. Paul Hewitt 33 Posted 16/01/2025 at 12:23:54 Robert. Let's be honest…, Bournemouth and Palace are both far better clubs to go and play football at than we are. Ian Pilkington 34 Posted 16/01/2025 at 12:25:54 “It'll probably mean there's a possibility that he will have to go back to Chelsea” — thee same rambling English we had from Dyche.Send him back at once and get an experienced loanee in.The only thing that the unlucky Broja proved was that playing as the sole forward in this squad is the worst job in the Premier League. Ray Robinson 35 Posted 16/01/2025 at 12:28:54 I'm not sure that it's as simple as sending Broja back because he's injured (again) or sending Harrison back because he's useless. That's simply not how the loan system works. Maybe, just maybe, the Premier League will allow us a special dispensation to sign a Broja replacement but we're stuck with Harrison, I'm afraid. Moyes referring to the possibility of sending Broja back to Chelsea probably just refers to him being looked after by Chelsea staff in his recovery rather than a cancellation of the loan agreement. After all, players are loaned out often to offload salary costs in order to comply with PSR rules, so teams would be compromised by loan players being sent back.It's hardly Thelwell's fault that he's been forced to operate in the cheap end of the market with such loans due to our parlous financial situation.Part of me though thinks selling Branthwaite for £70M in the summer and re-investing the money on better players might have been a better option – much as I'm glad we kept him.One thing seems certain, though. Moyes instead of Dyche alone will not keep us up, unless we buy players in this window. There is currently simply not enough goal potential there to survive. Robert Tressell 36 Posted 16/01/2025 at 12:31:57 Paul #33, well yes, that's where I was going with this. Unfortunately, Moshiri ruined us and it is seriously hurting our ability to bring in the players we desperately need. Peter Moore 37 Posted 16/01/2025 at 12:41:52 I think we have been in a very very tight spot financially.The takeover has alleviated the 'have we got the money' problem, but the PSR rules still stand. I imagine, ever since Usmanov was sanctioned, he was unable to bankroll his employee Moshiri, plus we had to return his money paid to us, for naming rights on the new stadium, and sponsorship of Finch Farm.This pickle, caused by Putin's invasion of Ukraine and the UK Government sanctioning Oligarchs and seizing their UK assets, is the reason I suspect, that:1) There has been a net recuperation of many millions from player trading, with zero net investment for several years now.2) Beto was brought in instead of Gyökeres two January windows ago, when Gyökeres was desperate to come and play in the Premier League. Beto was available on a 'buy now, pay later' ideal, wasn't he?Sadly we missed that boat and he went abroad instead in the summer. What a player missed by all Premier League teams that is. I suspect – given that player's quality, strength, pace and most of all finishing ability – we could be in very different shape now, table-wise, had big Viktor been on the end of the chances created. 'If' is possibly the biggest word in the English language though. 3) A none productive player like Harrison was brought in and renewed the next year, due to affordability constraints to get better.4) We brought in Broja, as we had Hobson's Choice. The once mighty Everton, in desperate need of striking reinforcement, forced to sign not just an unproven player, but a severely injured unproven player. The risk was massive he would breakdown after such a long time out. It's no surprise, but given our state, we probably could not get a better option.5) We are in Shit Street right now, teetering just above the trap door with a seemingly very toothless team.In light of all this, whilst McNeil and Chermiti may help, we surely need some fresh blood to help us, with some real quality. Over to you, The Friedkin Group.If they fail to act now, and we go down, what a disastrous situation that would be. Surely it's too great a risk for them to take??? Ray Robinson 38 Posted 16/01/2025 at 12:45:05 Evan Ferguson looked a fantastic prospect when he broke onto the scene but guess what? — he was also out for a long spell injured. If he's as good as I think he is, you'd have to wonder why Brighton seem willing to loan him out with Welbeck being as injury-prone as he is. Rob Halligan 40 Posted 16/01/2025 at 12:49:03 Moyes is saying that the club are considering sending Broja back to Chelsea. Out for 10 to 12 weeks would mean a possible return towards the end of April, so with what, about four games remaining. Not enough time to make any impact, in fact he wouldn't make any impact whatsoever. He would need to regain fitness and match fitness which isn't going to happen. So send him back and free up a loan space for somebody else. Ray Robinson 41 Posted 16/01/2025 at 12:53:29 Is terminating his loan that simple, though, Rob? Sending him back to aid his recovery isn't necessarily the same thing. Obviously, we neither of us know the terms of the loan agreement. Jack Convery 43 Posted 16/01/2025 at 12:53:49 Test if West Ham can recall James Ward-Prowse from Forest, where he's not getting a kick. Offer them a permanent deal. At least we'll have someone who can take a free-kick. Something that seems beyond the present squad. Didn't Moyes bring him in at West Ham? Ian Wilkins 44 Posted 16/01/2025 at 12:55:06 I think we'd all have to accept that Thelwell has been operating with two hands tied behind his back. And he's done well with winding down player contracts, making a turn on Onana, selling academy players at a profit.His acquisitions in the main leave a lot to be desired: Beto, Chetmiti, O'Brien for example (over £50M not on the pitch – accepting some of this is being paid on the never-never). Again he's shopping in a market place for the cash-strapped and buying players befitting of that market. Loans disappoint me. It is critical to us with no cash that our 4 loanees make a real difference. Mangala I see as a positive, but Lindstrøm, Harrison, Broja are hugely disappointing and have added nothing, just wasted opportunity.None of us really know the murky financial world Thelweall has had to operate in, and credit is due in part, but I'm not convinced he can pick a player (unless obvious) and I'm hoping Moyes, with his intense scrutiny of acquisitions, will change this. Brian Williams 45 Posted 16/01/2025 at 12:56:36 I "believe" we can only send him back if the club can negotiate the return with Chelsea.It's not as simple as us just wanting to send him back. Rob Halligan 46 Posted 16/01/2025 at 12:57:34 I've no idea, Ray, but it seems the logical thing to do. And it's not as if Chelsea cannot afford his wages, after all they've sold their women's team and two hotels they own to themselves! Ray Robinson 47 Posted 16/01/2025 at 13:03:52 It's the logical thing to do Rob but I'm pretty certain we'd have to carry on paying his wages. Unless Chelsea find something else to flog to themselves meanwhile! Rob Halligan 48 Posted 16/01/2025 at 13:09:02 Andy # 10……..Nice one! 👍👍👍 Mal van Schaick 49 Posted 16/01/2025 at 13:13:46 Its unfortunate for him and Everton, but in these circumstances perhaps special dispensation could be allowed by the PL to allow a further loan signing, as it significantly affects our options for selection and squad depth. Paul Hewitt 50 Posted 16/01/2025 at 13:16:40 Andy@10. Read my post again and then tell me were I blamed Thelwell for Broja getting injured. Add Your Comments In order to post a comment, you need to be logged in as a registered user of the site. » Log in now Or Sign up as a ToffeeWeb Member — it's free, takes just a few minutes and will allow you to post your comments on articles and Talking Points submissions across the site. How to get rid of these ads and support TW © ToffeeWeb