Changes at top and new investment on the horizon despite relegation worries

Thanks to Kenwright and the happy clapper mob.

I can't wait for the day that this happens and then all those who post so often on here and on other Everton-related sites, can see some progress and perhaps start to believe in the club again.

It really has become a chore reading reams of heartfelt but repetitive negative vibes. I want the fans to be as positive as possible and criticise when necessary but not have to have a bunker attitude against an individual or group of people who many fans see as the enemy within. One club, one fanbase one team.

New investment in Everton is imminent,

But the title of most seasons belongs to our Everton.

Huge opportunity missed losing to Fulham especially with 3 rivals all having tough games, I understand your thoughts as all of us would have said that one point at home from Spurs and Fulham is not enough to keep us up.

On Saturday away at Palace, the manager and players have to step up and simply have to win!

I agree it was slightly ambiguous but it's fairly clear he meant consecutive seasons, rather than total seasons, Arsenal have never been relegated since they joined the top division in 1919 I think, so that's over 100 years.

They've been there for approaching 69 years. Only Arsenal have played at the top table for longer,

We regroup and come back organised and fighting, it’s all to play for.

Does that mean you can turn your head right around and see Bill Kenwright stabbing you in the back?

I wouldn't be so excited. Myers Tweeted a deceptively titled article mentioning him that in content didn't seem to reflect said headline.

I suspect chairman Bill will outlast us all even if it's in the form of a cryogenic mausoleum waiting to be woken the next time we win something, Given the mess he's created the moisture in his veins will crystallize and burst his frozen veins long before we get a trophy.

By the time we do he will be like a rancid half-defrosted hamburger oozing toxic slime into the foundations of BMD which will no doubt react negatively with the concrete foundations and cause the whole structure to sink into the sea … if by that point it's not under water due to global warming exacerbated by Moshiri's jet.

That so-called board of ours may have bailed out long ago. Some have been dragged down with them and beaten into submission.

Well, not here. People can, seemingly satisfyingly, give me the "told you so" if the unthinkable happens. I don't believe it will.

Barry, just me being pedantic and picky! I've always know that fact about Everton and Arsenal. They have a long way to go to catch us up.

And they won't!

They finished 6th in the Southern division but got more votes (after the First World War when the league was restarted) due to the lobbying of a Conservative MP. Ask any Spurs fan!

This dead rubber of a board is done. They've made their bed. Their actions towards those who follow and have followed all of our lives are shameful. They've left us to it. Leadership, Evertonians? Do not fucking insult me. They are about as Evertonian as Alvard from Oslo who has a season ticket on the Kop but only attends once a season.

The investment will happen in the summer once that we have secured Premier League football.

But right now, it's about the team and the manager on Saturday, knowing we are behind them as we always are.

Shithouses. I'm still using that word too often. How dare they claim to be Evertonians. How dare they.

Apologies for the outburst.

Get out and don't come back.

Let's hope it doesn't come to that but all possible scenarios have to be considered. Relegation and no hope of investment, or change at the top, would be fatal for us.

The saddest thing about this whole situation is that Bill Kenwright hasn't stabbed anyone in the back. He has just taken us for fools, and more than enough foolish people bought him.

Bill Kenwright told one lie too many, which is often the case with any egotistical maniac, and now he has finally let the cat out of the bag, we are just seeing this nepotistic, fraudulent, self-serving, full-of-his-own-importance man's true colours.

And John McKenna, Chairman of the League and also LFC Chairman, was largely responsible for Arsenal getting the nod ahead of Spurs. Not that there was anything untoward of course. Yeah. Right.

Hopefully, Sean and the players and the supporters can scrape through this season to still be in the Premier League at the end. One thing is for sure: Kenwright is scaly skinned enough to crawl back into view, if we survive.

If we don't survive, I hope the investment is made anyway and we get a nnew board containing people who know what they're doing. Even get Alan back as Publicity Officer,

Spurs a big club…? My Arse!!

Where would our finances be today if we had not sols Digne, Richarlison and Gordon for approx €120 million, none of whom are first choices at their new clubs???

We are so lucky that there are a number of clubs that are equally as bad as us and by default we may survive.

I never felt so down about the state of our club.

Thanks for keeping the faith. The party's not over 'till the fat lady sings and we still have 7 games to grab enough points.

Hopefully, we can be sufficiently organised to get the 3 points vs Palace and then we'll have Doucouré back. He has become a key part of the formation and was a daft bugger to get conned into the red card situation with Shithouse Kane.

Keep the faith. We're not done yet!!!

I can't get it out of my head that, if we had got Viktor Gyökeres in in January (I believe he was expecting and ready and willing to be sold), we would already be safe and investment secured and onwards and upwards.

I find it hard to accept we are where we are given it was so obvious we needed to strengthen and had cashed in on underperformer Anthony Gordon as well.

I must 'get with the program', put that shit behind me, and find belief and faith that Dyche will stop using Maupay as a lead striker and let Simms lead the line if Calvert-Lewin is finished.

Backed by Evertonians, this team can do the necessary again. It won't be pretty, which matters not, of course!

COYB, UTFT.

Nothing about Everton makes sense. Anyone set to make a major investment into Everton at this point should be led to a padded room. Would you stick a load of money into Everton at this point? It's all smoke and mirrors.

This just sounds like Moshiri Moonshine to keep the mugs quiet. Why doesn't Moshiri himself address the supporters?

Has to be because he wants plausible deniability and Myers is it. Remember the “judge us at the end of the window” bullshit?

Seeing will be believing and when I see 3 new faces in the 3 empty seats, I'll believe, as long as it's not "meet the new boss, same as the old boss"?

On past form, if they told me it was Wednesday, I'd check to see if it wasn't Tuesday or Thursday.

Bill is quite a wily old bird, as we know, he will see that he is being lined up to take the blame. If he's not being given a massive golden goodbye, I suspect he will have something nasty lined up for Moshiri which will try and shift the blame back onto him. This could get very messy.

Anything could be happening behind the scenes.

This seems to have legs, reported by multiple media outlets. Whoever it is, I hope they actually have a frickin' plan, some business nous and deep pockets.

He knows he needs to act. He has been let down by recruitment, allowed others to make the decisions which have led the club to this situation and – although ultimately it's his responsibility – to suggest it is all his fault is nonsense. However important it is that he recognises his mistakes, it's doubly important that he rectifies them, and quickly”

We've heard it all before. Heard it from the horse's mouth. Heard it as recently as January.

We all know (or should know… as I'm sure there's probably still a few who buy into the ‘I mortgaged my own house and sold an Etch-a-Sketch signed by Elvis on eBay, even though eBay wasn't a thing back then, in order to save this football club' self-mythologising) that Kenwright and co are about as much use as a cock on a chocolate mouse. However, their ineptitude in no way equates to innocence on Moshiri's part.

He may have had certain people giving it their best Grima Wormtongue in his ear but the guy is hardly some guileless dupe. He's supposed to be a billionaire businessman with a decades long ouroboros relationship with a ruthless oligarch, who in turn has ties to a warmonger. Yet, people seem determined to make out he's merely some well-intentioned, eager-to-please milksop manoeuvring his way from mishap to mishap until, eventually, he'll ‘learn from his mistakes', come to grips with corporate life, turn the tables on those who sought to exploit him for their own nefarious ends and give us all a feel-good movie climax. Like he's Michael J Fox in ‘The Secret of My Success' or something (instead of Moshiri WT Fuck in ‘The Secretion of Our remier League Security').

To claim it is simply the delegating of decisions to others that has led to the death knell sounding is disingenuous in the extreme. We all know of disastrous movements made, or at least prompted, by Moshiri himself. Certain Managers, players and agents who have all contributed to our descent and whose arrival can be attributed directly to the man who owns the club.

People in the game are well aware of it too. It wasn't so long ago when so-called ‘super agent' Rob Segal was stating:

“Everton for example, let's make no bones about this – The reason Everton is in such a mess is because of their owner. Everton had people, well-respected footballing people, like Marcel Brands, who took the blame for poor signings, but they were the owner's signings who listened to a Brazilian agent and the club started buying players he recommended and everyone in football knew it”.

Yet, we're expected to buy that, in actuality, it's always been other people with their mitts on the marionette, while poor old Farhad's had to settle for playing shadow puppets in the corner and slurring down the phone on 5Live?

Complete bullshit.

The same as any promises the man may make as to getting to grips with the situation, or doing things differently from hereon out.

We've heard it all before. Heard it from the horse's mouth. Heard it as recently as January.

So, let’s cut the negative shite until the end of the season and drive the team to victory and safety.

It seems to have escaped some people’s attention that 17th is not a relegation place.

Goodison was flat against Fulham, we all have to make sure that doesn’t happen again. So, after we have beaten Palace we need to make the Old Lady a cauldron, scare the life out of the barcodes and take another 3 points.

We are far from done. We are Everton.

UTFT!

It's taken me a couple of days to get over the Fulham result, but, in truth after the Man Utd result, I knew we were in trouble. We have barely enough of a team that's willing to fight, but the cruelest luck and injuries could mean what's left is not enough. The Fat Lady isn't singing and, if she does, it won't be for us, not yet...

While they are here, I want everyone of them to fight for this club, because their future depends on it. Not one of them will be wanted by a top team, many of them are not good enough to play for us let alone anyone else, but we need Dyche to somehow get the best out of them.

The fans turned their back on that display at the weekend, it was unforgivable, but it was also predictable. Drop Keane, put Mina in, drop Godfrey, put anyone in, drop Maupay, drop Gray... Christ, there's no one to fill the holes made by poor players!

This isn't going to be easy, or pretty, but damn it no one is allowed to give up! I don't care if the kids have to play, no one gives up. The slightest sign, drag them off and tell them they are finished at this club.

Do we have a centre-forward or not? Stand up if you think you can do it, Dominic; if you don't, then stop giving us false hope, we have had enough.

To the fans who walked out never again, no matter what, it's our club. If we give up, it's over. So don't you dare. Don't you fuckin dare!

I am hurting, I am angry, but I still want it badly. I want the board gone, it would make a huge difference to the fans. Relief, change, belief… we can do this again.

I came on this site because of Kenwright about 17 years ago.. there aren't enough words to express the harm this man has done to this club. Just go and sneak out the back door.

Moshiri, the Fool on the Hill, was taken in by the master, taken to the cleaners, then he started to dabble in things he knew nothing about. The Fool and the Conman… both responsible but only one has the power. So use it and give us all a break.

His is the responsibility, but Kenwright must be held accountable. but you know as I do, once gone, he will be telling all and sundry it was all down to Moshiri. It wasn't.

Good times, Bill? How dare you say that… Don't let the door hit you on the arse on the way out.

He is (was) Usmanov's inner circle most trusted accountant, not a successful businessman. He (they) thought a package of money on the football side would create a safe-as-houses mid-table team to put the club in, at least, a holding pattern. This whilst the stadium is built and clean profits realised.

The one ray of sunshine is the stadium is rising from the docks and looking very impressive. It's going to be world class with a fabulous backdrop.

A fitting home for a great Premier League club… Ahem!

Sadly, the talk of it being disconnected from the club is sounding very plausible, and where will that leave our ability to invest in the squad to keep up with the competition?

The best we can hope for is to be taken over with an individual or consortium with some vision for the future, essentially with the professional ability to make it happen.

It will be a great day for Everton and thousands of their long suffering fans when Kenwright is finally removed. The damage done over many years has been very far-reaching and, whilst I sit here pondering our future, the disdain I reserve for Mr Good Times just continues to grow higher and higher.

I was going to listen to The Jam's Funeral Pyre ("The flames grow higher") because the lyrics remind me of the nepotistic regime that Evertonians have had to endure for years upon years but I've decided to go back to my childhood favourite, Peter Gabriel, because some of the lyrics in Not One Of Us could never portray our saviour better, imo.

A very compelling post, and bang on with most of your sentiments, but on the matter of interest from top clubs, I do think that there would be interest in both Pickford and Onana, for quite different reasons.

I'm sure I don't need to elaborate but, with regard to our goalkeeper, I cannot help but think it could be Everton FC down to a "T" to have to sell the player when he has probably reached the peak of his powers, and has arguably kept us on the edge of being "competitive" when we really should be where Southampton are, given the void of talent in the outfield.

Added to this, nobody could blame either Pickford or Onana should they get their chances of joining clubs who can offer something more. Dyche has a big job on his hands irrespective of whether we stay up or not.

As I've said before on this site, with the exception of Pickford, Coleman and possibly Coady, we don't seem to have players with real fire in their bellies. I hope I'm wrong.

If this is true, then the club don't own their ground or any training facilities anymore.

I thought Pickford should have done better with Fulham's first goal on Saturday, but he's a player who deserves a much better team.

My own view is that this is an (in)action, guilty of summary dismissal from the board. This goes for the entire board, as far as I see it. Except for the owner, perhaps.

Shame on them! Shame on them! Shame on them! An absolute disgrace!

I cringe at the number of times I have read that 'the Chairman is handling the transfer negotiations personally ' I am sure he fancies having one of the new stands be named after him, and misses playing host to visitors on match days, serving up drinks someone else has payed for.

During his tenure, a series of managers have paid the price for his lack of judgement; quite honestly, he needs to go and be removed from any position of authority. I

f he wants to attend matches, let him pay for his ticket, no more freebies, he has used his position for his own benefit for too long. He is not welcome in the Chairman's seat – he cannot come back; we don't want him – surely he can see that.

I would only change one thing: substitute ‘to' for ‘through' in that first sentence.

If we do survive this season, what will happen next seson player-wise is anybody's guess.

The new stadium in Bramley-Moore Dock is a total reflection of our present day Everton – built on sand!!! This board have so much to answer for but have had their asses stuck in the air with their heads firmly buried in the same sand.

About time they all kicked the 'bucket' and stopped using our beloved club as a playground.

By the way, I have been suspended by Twitter. I have not used it in months. So if anyone comes across Tweets where I seem to have gone off the deep end, it is without my knowledge and involvement.

I’m waiting on the Esk to confirm, that fella knows his noodles.

I still maintain that every third game, that is the attitude of most of the players who do not put in the preparation during the week.No Manager has been able to break that pattern.Dyche managed to get a bit of performance against Man u but he paid in the following game for doing so.

These players are not worried about getting relegated.All they are interested in is getting their money..They will put a effort into the next game two game , but the fans really need to get on their case that third game, which is Leicester..

We are dealing with a predominate group of players that really need to be put under pressure to get a performance out of them

No one is investing without guarantees that they form a board and the existing failing regime steps down before they are pushed.

We have the opportunity of Bramley Moore Dock. The chance to retain our Premier League status, which remains in our hands providing we fight and take care of our destiny.

Meanwhile, I am having sleepless nights thinking about Selhurst Park on Saturday. Goodison under the lights against Newcastle. Leicester and Brighton away. Knowing Everton, we might even nick a point against City.

In four games time, the world may seem a brighter place and I can sleep without waking up before the dogs.

I just want this season done. Everton safe. And then the change surely is coming. It has to.

And they know it.

In the meantime, we must not give up. When you do, you're done. Somehow or other, with our support, Sean Dyche has to find a way to get this group of players over the line this season. We have to live to fight another day.

It wasn't the greatest game, a scrappy 0-0 draw against Runcorn Linnets, but the winning penalty made it a brilliant night.

I like to hear about Merseyside clubs. I guess we can give Runcorn a pass even though technically they are Cheshire.

Prescot and of course Southport too.

And back in the day, South Liverpool, who's stadium used to stand in Garston on the site of what is now Liverpool South Parkway Station.

Living down here, I used to like going to watch Hayes, later Hayes & Yeading in the Conference leagues as well as coaching their youth teams.

I think it's the other way round, Christine @62. It's the value of the stadium and future income streams it generates that's going to make the club saleable at present.

Maybe if the club had been successful on the pitch and worth something, they could be sold off separately.

Tony #48, I pointed that out a couple of months ago but was assured that the accounts state that the stadium is a wholly owned subsidiary of the Club.

I don't know if the just released set of accounts still state the same?

And Kenwright sold the training ground 15 years ago, it's owned by Liverpool City Council now.

Jericho Lane takes me back some years. We also used to play a lot of our matches somewhere near Picton Road in Wavertree. I can't remember exactly where as I got picked up and sat in the back of a minibus. Dreadful pitches. Jericho Lane was much better.

Going down a few levels and localising further, and if I recall correctly, back then, Mossley Hill had a really good youth team on the local scene. I think their claim to fame was the late Gary Ablett? And Speke Town weren't too bad either. My cousin's husband played for them and I turned out a few times for the senior team as a teenager.

Talk about education! You learned quickly.

The place you're thinking of Danny is the pitches at Picton Sports Centre?

Now, whether there is fresh impetus to the story and he has reposted it, who knows... but am a bit wary of it.

I'd be interested to know what value the new stadium has without us playing there. It's not designed for any activity other than sport and in particular footy. The infrequency of other events and the need for large regeneration of the area means it wouldn't be commercially viable for anything else. My concern would be Moshiri selling the ground and the club leasing it back on financially crippling terms.

But for now it's all about the next seven games.

Also, talking BMD, I’m hearing that DBB and Graeme Sharp will be down there today, as apparently the final piece of the last roof truss is due to be fitted, and there will be a Topping Off Ceremony. Don’t take that as gospel though, just in case anyone is thinking of going down there to throw rotten tomatoes and eggs at them!!

Alan Myers was a former Communications Director at Everton, so I think he does know something!!

We know who the rest are. There are three or four who can fit in as subs, but only one or two on together. This team can win with physical set pieces. If that team isn't on the field firing for 5 or 6 games, we are down.

We need Investors who know we might be going down. Tough sensible businessmen, can run set up a football team, rebuild.

Massive clear out, Kenwright never let back in, this board banned from games, including Sharp. All the Yes-people, the free lunch and booze brigade out.

Moshiri will have to take a silly price. We will have a fire sale. Dyche will be told to set up a squad to come back up.
It won't be superstars, but a squad that has desire, passion and quality in the Championship – totally different from the Premier League. Dyche, Woan, and Stone know what's needed.

But whoever buys Everton, they will have nothing without the 33,000 season ticket holders, 10,000 on the waiting list… 100,000 fans in total that go to games. If they don't get it, they're doomed too. We have suffered too long.

I've decided after Fulham not to go in the ground whilst Moshiri owns the club. Right or wrong, I've made my decision, it's what 30,000 should have done a while back.
Moshiri and the Kenwright Board would have been gone by now.

I think I posted in response to this question last, going by what was searchable at Companies House. I still need to review the Annual Report to see if anything changed on this score but I would have thought someone would have mentioned it in that case.

My take was it's a separate company, but still part of the Everton Football Club Co Ltd group of companies, if that makes any sense. Perhaps someone knows definitely if that has now changed?

The Cameo case was never solved although two innocent men were convicted. One was hung, George Kelly, and Charles Connelly served 10 years, both for a crime they never committed.

They were later exonerated but the real murderer was never found; most of the evidence against them was set up by a bent detective.

George Kelly's family were allowed to give him a proper burial plot, this was denied him because of his conviction. Charles Connelly later worked at Alison's night club in Litherland.

There used to be a cinema right by Picton Clock, so maybe that's the one you refer too? Think I remember it as The Abbey Cinema.

We speculate. We give opinion. Do we really know everything? No, I would never claim to as I'm sure he wouldn't.

He does seem a bit more informed and opinionated than "knowing sweet fuck-all". That statement is more me to be honest.

I suspect (don't know) that something appears to be happening behind the scenes.

It is torturous and I can't control it. I can't even control what is going on during the 90 minutes, but that is where I am focussing my very concerned mind right now.

Change is coming. You can feel it in the wind. I don't claim to know, but I doubt we will see Kenwright back at Goodison again. The time is coming.

Yes it was you that pointed out it was a wholly owned subsidiary of Everton Football Club Co Ltd.

But subsidiaries can be hived off although, as I said above, I think that now the team itself is worthless, even if we remain in the Premier League, and Moshiri's only hope of making a sale is if the new Everton Stadium at Bramley-Moore Dock is packaged with the club.

The new owner can hive it off later if he's going to asset strip to make a fast buck.

As for investment, as so many contributors have said, it needs to be without the present board. Glad to hear Calvert-Lewin managed 70 minutes of a practice match. Not so glad to hear that, with eight of the so-called first-team squad playing, we lost to Chester of the 6th tier.

I also thought they where separate companies with separate finance. Meaning that an MPS loan-type facility, which could be later converted into shares, was solely for the financing of the club.

But as you and Paul the Esk pointed out, the company, though separate, is still part of the Everton group and the investment into Everton Football Club could be used in the stadium finance.

In the accounts for the club, there is a stadium cost, which would suggest that, though separate in the group, there is a financial relationship. So therefore I was incorrect.

I was talking to an estate agent yesterday who told me that one of the problems in the last crash was a lot of builders became developers and gave personal guarantees which meant they became wholly liable.

But he said there was those that knew how to borrow and avoid giving guarantees, who really knew how a developer should act, and when the crash came, the banks were forced to take a haircut of millions and the developer was about to buy the development back at a fraction of the price, with no liability for the original loans.

It is all very complex, but I can't see Moshiri not having his ducks lined up, though I do feel Everton FC are a secondary consideration.

I know I will come under attack for this but I fully expect one last dig from Bill Kenwright, before he is pushed, I am fully expecting him to throw the fans under the bus one final time, by saying he is standing aside due to Ill health and how not attending Goodison, blah, blah, blah and the fans unrest has made his mind up.

You think I’m joking, just wait and see, he will not be pushed out, it will not be down to him getting the push, he will strike first and put it down to not his fault and every single media will cover the story of poor Bill.

Absolutely nothing suprises me anymore what this guy will do.

He can say what he wants as he has no credibility left just like the board.

They have alienated themselves to those that matter the most.

He can say what he wants. We have thick skin. Water off an Evertonian Duck's back.

"...but I can't see Moshiri not having his ducks lined up..."

Are still talking about the same Moshiri that took over a club that were comparatively decent (I do remember where we were in Martinez' last season) spanked half a billion and oversaw them becoming shite, and in a financial mess. You have much more faith in him than I. He's an account FFS. How can an account who's job is managing both money and the legal side of finance make such a hash of it?
Credit to him for putting his hand in his pocket, or someone else's, but BMD is about thing he's got right in over 7yrs, in my opinion.

Would he make a profit from the sale of the club? That might depend on how many shares may have been gifted, assuming he still has his full time job.

“I answer this question the way I've answered it for the last 22 years, so ENIC owns approximately 87 percent of the club, we have 30,000 shareholders, most of them are fans, and we have a duty to consider any proposals anyone wants to make.

“All I will say is that we're not in negotiations with anybody, nor have we been over recent months and all the stuff that has been in the newspapers is completely untrue.”

And all this because Jahm Najafi and Jeff Moorad, co-founders of MSP Sports Capital, were pictured meeting with Levy in Bahrain in early March at the season opener for Formula One. Although the meeting was understood to be social, given Najafi and Moorad's interest in McLaren and Levy being in the Middle East as a guest of F1 due to the tie-in that the sport had recently inked with Spurs through plans for a karting track underneath the Tottenham Hotspur Stadium, the newspapers and other perpetrators of scuttlebutt [sorry, that might be an Americanism...] decided they must have been in advanced stages of a Spyurs takeover!!!

So this is how 'journalsim' works in this country. All that money wasted on Levinson and his two enquiries, while twats like Piers Morgan, who blatantly promoted illegal phone-hacking, carry on spouting their own brand of 'the truth'. Grrrrrrr…