Everton benefit from add-on clause following Stones's success with Man City

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Everton will collect a reported £2.5m by way of an appearance-related clause they negotiated during the sale of John Stones seven years ago after Manchester City won the Champions League.

The two clubs agreed to the add-on when they settled on a £47.5m fee for Stones in 2016 when the defender left Goodison Park as one of the hottest defensive prospects in the Premier League.

With a sell-on fee due to Barnsley, Everton received £40m for the sale of the Yorkshireman after successfully resisting an approach from Chelsea a few months earlier that season and the Liverpool Echo estimate that Blues are now due a top-up following City's success in Istanbul last night.

Stones, who has been operating more as a midfielder under Pep Guardiola in recent weeks, was arguably the standout performer as the Citizens edged Internazionale by Rodri's solitary second-half goal to finally win the one trophy they had been desperate to win.

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It capped a treble-winning season for the Dubai-backed club who beat Arsenal to the Premier League title last month and beat neighbours Manchester United in the FA Cup Final last weekend. 


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Lee Courtliff
1 Posted 11/06/2023 at 18:03:56
Jesus, some smart business by us!!
Shane Corcoran
2 Posted 11/06/2023 at 18:24:14
Arguably the best performer? I’d love to hear that argument.
Jim Hardin
3 Posted 11/06/2023 at 18:33:22
Stones was very good in the game. I argued with a certain Mr. Hind years ago that he (Stones, not Mr Hind) would be a better midfielder given his footskills, bit of pace, and passing ability than he was a centre-back who liked to ball watch, try unnecessary moves and to hold the ball while in his own box.

I think Pep is seeing that over the last season. Plus, he can fill those deeper positions if someone is caught high up the pitch. I think he will only get better under Pep.

Tony Everan
4 Posted 11/06/2023 at 18:57:04
£2.5m is welcome, we need all the cash we can get to pay wages for Gomes, Alli, Gbamin for another year.

Stones has been very good in for City this season and has shown up even more in the run in and last night. Looks totally at home when pushed further forward.

As well as he has played, Rodri has been the lynchpin of this City team, a Rolls Royce of a player who has got the lot. Any club in the world would welcome him with the red carpet rolled out.

Shane Corcoran
5 Posted 11/06/2023 at 20:09:59
I disagree. He's fine until he gets to the last third. Messed up a couple of times last night alone when he found himself up there.
Allen Rodgers
6 Posted 11/06/2023 at 20:13:52
I seem to remember him getting stick for doing tippy-tappy with Tim Howard and telling the Park End to calm down.

He took a while to get established at City but has been outstanding this season. The media never mention he played for Everton though, he's known as the Barnsley Beckenbauer.

Barry Rathbone
7 Posted 11/06/2023 at 20:28:38
Never a top defender in a million years but comfortable in possession and has managed to make a career at City mostly as a useful squad player. Now reaping the rewards with winners medals coming out of his ears.

It's Phil Neal syndrome.

At one time, Neal was the most decorated player in the game statistically making him the greatest player of all time, haha.

So glad Giggs come along to knock that madness on the head.

Andy Crooks
8 Posted 11/06/2023 at 20:48:38
Barry, Phil Neal is an outstanding example of something I can't quite put my finger on. But it is very strange. I wrote on here quite a while ago that Stones would be a new Bobby Moore. Frankly, that has been shown to be nuts. But he has Phil Neal Syndrome, no doubt.

He is simply blessed. Not with pace, or aggression, or insight, or skill, or leadership or actually anything definable to the naked eye. But, blessed he is, and nowhere else in time or place could it have happened. What is magnificent is the calmness and self-assurance with which he handles this blessedness.

Nick Kent once wrote that David Bowie's greatest work of art was his career and stardom, not the songs or shows. John Stones looks the part so much that actually being the part doesn't really matter.

Kevin Molloy
9 Posted 11/06/2023 at 20:57:34
That's another Demarai Gray right there.
David Bromwell
10 Posted 11/06/2023 at 20:58:46
Obviously football is all a matter of opinions, and for me John Stones has developed into a great player – I really enjoy watching him.

Obviously there are still flaws in his game, but both in the World Cup and playing for Man City he has had a great season, playing in two very different positions.

Dave Lynch
11 Posted 11/06/2023 at 21:02:29
Nah... he's not a top defender.

That's why Pep picks him every week and he's a regular in a treble-winning team, for fuck's sake.

Danny O’Neill
12 Posted 11/06/2023 at 21:15:35
Andy @8,

A very talented footballer that we collectively didn't appreciate.

He's a sweeper hence the Barnsley Beckenbauer tag.

The sweeper remains alert to assist the defence, but can also go on the front foot to help the attack.

In the modern game it has become more what we define as a defensive midfielder, but under Pep's model, it is expected to assist the attack.

Stones can do both.

Will Mabon
13 Posted 11/06/2023 at 21:27:33
Andy @ 8, that was "different" but I know what you're getting at.

One thing Stones does often display is what they call time on the ball. For some other-worldly reason, certain players are not immediately confronted or closed down when they have the ball. Others attract an instant Exocet missile attack.

This goes beyond paying attention to those known as danger players or that can move the ball and leave a tackler trailing - or can't; all very weird.

A lad I played with at school - a little heavy and not quick, but a very good central midfielder. He wasn't so hard to dispossess in training but everyone we played backed off him and left him alone!

Something about calmness, body shape, how the ball is carried, movement maybe... time? Mysterious.

John Williams
14 Posted 11/06/2023 at 21:34:16
I read recently a comment by Graham Souness on the qualities of
Alan Hansen.
He said Alan was as good in midfield as any of the other Liverpool
midfield players, great passer of the ball and a great reader of the game.
Everton knew they had a very good player in John Stones, but sadly
when a top team comes calling, they are going to move on.
Brendan McLaughlin
15 Posted 11/06/2023 at 21:50:23
Bit off topic but I see England are trying to entice Tom Cannon into switching allegiance from the Republic of Ireland. Hopefully this reflects genuine belief in Tom rather than a paucity in English talent.
Danny O’Neill
16 Posted 11/06/2023 at 21:55:00
Will, that is called having the ability and brain to remain calm, make time and space.

Sheedy was a master of it.

John, I feel dirty and will go to confession but Hansen is one of the best defenders / sweepers I witnessed. Whilst at Everton, I compared Stones to him in terms of ability and style.

Mark Murphy
17 Posted 11/06/2023 at 22:03:10
100% Danny - I said exactly the same back then.
The thing was, that type of cavalier defender wasn’t what we needed at the time and it was the right decision to cash in.
I just hope we don’t take that view with Branthwaite for at least a couple of seasons yet.
Tony Abrahams
18 Posted 11/06/2023 at 22:32:39
John Stones will always be marmite, not the best or most aggressive defender, but definitely the best English footballing central defender, I personally think I’ve watched in my lifetime. It’s obviously all about opinions, but I used to love watching the calmness and simplicity, that a young John Stones, brought into our team.
Kieran Kinsella
19 Posted 11/06/2023 at 23:05:36
Tony Abrahams

I have to agree mate. He’s always hit with the “he has a mistake in him” but who hasn’t? The best before him I recall was your Forest team mate Des Walker. He had a few bad games then was hounded out of England before having a renaissance at Sheff Wed. The other thing to consider is for every mistake how many times do Rhino type CBs give the ball straight back to the opposition with aimless clearances and thus put the team back under pressure?

Will Mabon
20 Posted 11/06/2023 at 23:14:19
There's definitely that to it, Danny - and Sheedy had that. Staying loose when you receive the ball is one part of it. Some just give off a vibe though and the opposition don't take them on... sort of unreadable maybe.
Ian Jones
21 Posted 12/06/2023 at 09:34:48
John Stones has matured into a decent player. David Moyes bought him in as an 18 year old and played him at right back at times, so he saw his versatility.

As Stones is nearing 30, he's too old for us to consider bringing him back, but would perhaps be a useful squad player, perhaps a few games in the Cups!

Jack Convery
22 Posted 12/06/2023 at 10:05:39
He's class. Simples. Guardiola is no fool. He liked what he saw and bought him.
Peter Mills
23 Posted 12/06/2023 at 20:25:43
I really enjoyed watching John Stones play for us. Perhaps he wasn't what we needed at the time, someone like Dave Watson might have fitted the bill better, and his “calm down” to the Park End was ill-advised. But his reading of the game and his touch of swagger were great.

For me, all his talent was on show in the 2nd half of the 2016 FA Cup semi-final, when he nearly turned the game around with his surging runs out of defence to take the ball at Man Utd.

I'm delighted he has gone on to fulfil his potential, sadly not with us.

Justin Doone
24 Posted 14/06/2023 at 15:46:19
Its taken him another 4 years to settle, mature and showcase his talent. He's a very good player without being a very good defender or midfielder.

He fits the system, rather than being a top class player and in team sports, that's incredibly important.

Pushing him higher up simply means the risks he takes and mistakes he makes can be covered by team mates rather than in his own box.

We have done well out of it considering he didn't fit the profile of defender we needed then and still need now. I wouldn't have him back, wouldn't pick him for England and yet enjoy watching the unusual but successful way he and City play.

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