In a more ideal world, Sean Dyche would have guided Everton to safety this season and left the Club with our thanks for a job well-enough done. The Blues’ new owners, The Friedkin Group, would be able to use the time in between to put together a strategic succession plan for the manager and look to hire a more dynamic, forward-thinking head coach to lead their new era heading into Bramley-Moore Dock.

Nothing about the footballing circumstances at Everton is ideal though or even close to it and it appears from the more in-depth reporting that has followed the termination of Dyche’s contract that in admitting he had reached the end of his personal road where the struggle to win games was concerned, the gruff 53-year-old left TFG little choice but to accelerate his departure.

When it comes to who could conceivably replace him — quickly, painlessly and cheaply to avoid the protracted searches for a new boss that followed the sacking of Rafael Benitez and Frank Lampard — when you consider the Club’s threadbare squad, declining fortunes in front of goal this season and increasingly perilous position in the table, the hierarchy have opted, quite sensibly, for what will hopefully be the steadying influence of David Moyes.

Now is not the time to be experimenting with a young, up-and-coming coach or a patient builder like Graham Potter, and maybe not even one of the options from abroad who may have experience but are unproven in the Premier League.

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Evertonians know all too well that Moyes is not the most exciting of figureheads for your team. That lack of dynamism was reflected at times in the performances during his tenure, and it was one of the key reasons why West Ham elected not to extend his contract at the end of last season. That despite him having delivered to them their first trophy of the Premier League era.

The length of contract that the Glaswegian has been given has deflated some of the optimism that some fans have felt, first in the wake of Dyche’s exit and, secondly, at the prospect of welcoming back a man who knows the demands of the job at Goodison and is intimately familiar with the Club… even if much has changed in the 12 years since he left.

There again, though, TFG had little choice. Moyes was unlikely to accept another short-term deal like the one he initially signed at West Ham in 2017 and you have to consider the message it would send to Everton’s players to install someone at the helm who might well be out the door again in six months’ time.

While the new American owners have wiped away the financial crisis that has gripped the Club for the past couple of years and will be looking to usher in clear leadership and direction off the pitch, when it comes to footballing matters Everton desperately need stability. Moyes, with his wealth of experience can bring just that. Though he had expressed a reluctance to take on another fight against relegation, he is a veteran of such situations, having saved the Toffees once and West Ham twice, while there is debate as to whether he could have kept Sunderland up in 2016-17.

Their Europa Conference League triumph aside, the Hammers may have been largely uninspiring at times under Moyes but there was a familiar blend of silk and steel about the side he oversaw at the London Stadium, with the likes of Mohammed Kudus, Lucas Paquetà and Jarrod Bowen complimented by Tomas Soucek, Edson Alvarez and the bustling Michail Antonio.

And in four of the last five seasons, including, it should be noted, Carlo Ancelotti’s full season at Goodison, Moyes’s West Ham finished above Everton. It wasn’t as consistent as his decade-plus at Goodison — perhaps it couldn’t have been given how competitive the Premier League has become — but once he had established himself at the London Stadium there was never any danger of them going down.

A big part of the legacy he left at Everton was the defensive solidity that Roberto Martinez inherited and benefited from in his oh-so-nearly first season on charge. Obviously, if there was an element of the Dyche regime you’d want to preserve, it was the emphasis on keeping things tight and trying to nick one, a mantra that became synonymous with Moyes at Everton during that determined push towards fourth place in 2005.

The key in his second spell will be finding ways to turn a shot-shy, confidence-shredded attacking unit into something capable of creating chances and scoring goals. Dyche ultimately proved incapable of doing so but, as the better all-round coach, there’s more confidence that Moyes can, especially if he and Kevin Thelwell are able to bring in a couple of targeted, effective signings before the transfer deadline.

It’s unlikely Moyes would have been anyone’s first choice to lead Everton into the new stadium and a potentially bright new future on the banks of the Mersey but there is no question that he, more than almost anyone the Club could have hired, will appreciate the enormity of that move to Evertonians.

Whether he has what it takes to lead this beaten-down institution back to greatness might be open to question but, for now, when safety is paramount, he should be the safe pair of hands we need.


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Derek Knox
1 Posted 11/01/2025 at 08:28:40
I take on board what you are saying Lyndon, but is it ? Just because he had us in relatively boring safety for several seasons doesn't guarantee that there will be an ' auto-reset '. Plus when you look at our current squad in comparison to those 'safe days' there is a stark contrast.

A lot of course, will hinge on how much we are allowed to spend and more importantly who we add, if anyone, to the current group. I am hoping Harrison gets sent back for starters, and Doucoure either has a new lease of life, or is condemned to the bench or beyond. We do have some good players but not enough to meet the demands of the Premiership.

Again, not my choice, but I will grudgingly support him in the hope of survival at the very least. Very rarely do second spells work, for either managers or players, let's hope he can buck that trend, and gladly prove me wrong !

Joseph Edwards
2 Posted 11/01/2025 at 08:28:55
A good summary, I don't think we had any choice but to get rid of Dyche, his rhetoric in pressers was becoming more and more bizarre. When the crowd senses you've lost the dressing room, it's game over, and I feel that's exactly what happened here. The negotiation over hisnseverance, the brutal announcement of Dyches departure, and the sppednof his replacement show that these new owners are ruthless businessmen, and we've needed that for years now. I personally welcome Mosey's return, I think his track record is consistent and let's not forget some of the absolute gems he bought during his first tenure, Arteta, Cahill, Pennard, Barnes, Fellani,The Yak. Let's get behind him, and hopefully, he'll get a decent transfer budget in the summer to work some magic with.

COYB

Nigel Scowen
3 Posted 11/01/2025 at 08:38:58
Great post Lyndon, thanks.

Just one question though, was it just about West Ham not wanting to extend Moyes contract, I heard that Moyes himself wasn’t keen to put pen to paper.

Danny Baily
4 Posted 11/01/2025 at 08:52:08
Sounds like Dyche had as much a role in his departure as TFG did. Moyes is a relic from another era of football and will cut a decisive figure with the fan base, but... He will have the support of Coleman. Rightly or wrongly (the latter, in my opinion), Seamus holds massive influence over this squad. Having him on board and not undermining the manager in any way will make a big difference.

Regardless of this season's outcome (that is, relegation or otherwise), a clear out is needed. No more big characters from yesteryear; it's time to move on.

Howard Don
5 Posted 11/01/2025 at 08:54:20
A sober and accurate analysis Lyndon, unlike some of the hate filled hyperbole doing the rounds. Moyes IS the only realistic option at present and a good one in my opinion, I welcome him back. That said we shouldn’t all run away with the idea that Moyes brings automatic salvation from relegation. This squad is threadbare and with Broja gone has zero firepower for what looks like a very difficult second half of the season. Shrewd signings and re-motivation are needed.
Mike Allison
6 Posted 11/01/2025 at 09:00:20
Someone on another thread suggested Moyes taking over as DOF, overseeing player recruitment, with a more progressive coach running the actual team. I quite like this idea but I see two clear problems.

1. I’m not sure Moyes would want this job and the back seat he’d have to take on a day-to-day basis.

2. A strong DOF develops a clear pathway from youth set-up to first team, something Moyes has never seemed interested in.

I like Carsley as a coach, and with Moyes’ experience to lean on it could work.

Mark Murphy
7 Posted 11/01/2025 at 09:11:01
A very good and accurate article with reasoning that is far better than some of the astounding vitriol I've read on the other thread.

I'm not a Moyes fan either but, with all things considered, plus it's still the early days of the transfer window, it's a pragmatic and obvious appointment. I'd have taken the tea lady over Dyche but also would've loved to have seen a more progressive and younger man. But for the short term at least, this makes sense.

In my honest opinion, we won't go down with Moyes but we were in free fall with Dyche and would have!

Mike Allison
8 Posted 11/01/2025 at 09:11:06
Danny, Moyes signed Coleman but hardly ever picked him. He got his chance when Martinez took over.

Also, there seems to be a lot of narrative about how ‘bad' the squad is. I'm confident that they're a lot better than they've looked so far this season. Whether Moyes is the manager to show that, though, I'm not sure…

Ray Roche
9 Posted 11/01/2025 at 09:25:31
A good balanced and sensible post Lyndon, in the circumstances there was little choice, despite reports that TFG were “talking to” other, unnamed, suitors. I have just read that, when Thelwell broke the news of Dyche’s departure to the players in The Titanic hotel, the atmosphere was ‘lifted’ and no tears were shed. It would appear that the team were glad to see the back of him as much as most of ToffeeWeb.
Like others, I feel that now Moyes is here we must forget the past and get behind him. It’s counterproductive if we don’t. He’ll want success in the same way that we do.
Mike Gaynes
10 Posted 11/01/2025 at 09:27:32
Mike #9, wow, totally not true. Seamus started 29 games in all competitions in Moyes' final season at Everton.

In fact, I think Moyes deserves great credit for Coleman's career, and Seamus has said as much. He had serious fundamental defensive flaws, which is why Moyes played him at right mid in 2011. Moyes coached him on positional awareness and helped him become what he could be.

One thing Moyes can do is teach.

Christos Biziliotis
11 Posted 11/01/2025 at 09:28:08
I agree 100 % Howard Don, Eddie Dunn.Welcome back David Moyes.
John Houghton
12 Posted 11/01/2025 at 09:29:16
Difficult to disagree with any of that, a balanced, logical stance to take at the moment.
Kiern Moran
13 Posted 11/01/2025 at 09:35:32
Signal the training staff, Moyes is back.
David Edwards
14 Posted 11/01/2025 at 09:59:45
A well-balanced post again, Lyndon. No one would honestly have wanted the return of David Moyes, but we have to dodge the potential disaster of relegation this year. We have one of the weakest squads in our history for several reasons, and even someone like Sean Dyche couldn’t get any more out of them, it seemed. We need someone who has the chance to graft at least something from them, and Moyes was probably the only realistic choice at present. A more exciting, forward-thinking manager inheriting this limited squad and allowing a more open, attacking style of play risked things going even worse. This is an emergency and all of us at the club need to focus on supporting the team and management to get to the end of the season with at least three teams lower than us. Then we can reset for the future in our new stadium. The contract length is meaningless - he’ll go when TFG deem he has nothing further to offer. The cost of relegation is huge compared to those extra 2 years of pay. He might even surprise us, this time around. Let’s take a deep breath and brace ourselves for the remaining months of this season - there will be some choppy water to get through in the next few weeks - a few modest wins would be nice, wouldn’t they?
Ted Roberts
15 Posted 11/01/2025 at 10:20:21
We wanted new owners,we got them.We wanted a new manager,we got one.Now let’s get behind the cast and support crew and get this show back on the road to settle our shattered nerves and climb the ladder.COYB?
Jerome Shields
16 Posted 11/01/2025 at 10:41:31
In the cold light of day the TFG had no choice but to let Dyche go.His contract was about to terminate and a step up on relegation survival next season is needed.

Dyche knew he was not going to get a new contract.He though surviving relegation was not able to step up this season.The record is there for all to see.

Moyes will be able to survive this season in the Premiership, as Dyche would have probably done had he been on a new contract. But, next season Moyes may be able to get more out of the attack, which would be a step up on Dyche. It is probable that all those at Everton will fall in behind him.He is their choice, offering comfort in the face of New Owners.

Great Summary of the situation Lyndon.

I am comforted now rather than disappointed.


Brian Harrison
17 Posted 11/01/2025 at 11:02:26
I like the rest of you have had to watch the last 3 managers take us to the brink of relegation, and under Dyche I have seen some of the worst football I have ever seen. I cant believe there was many who believed Dyche would have any chance of avoiding relegation, but on T/W we have all this negativity about appointing someone who has a far better track record at this club than the last 3. I realize some didnt like some of the things he said, but the knife to a gunfight when we played City was exactly right. He himself kept this club afloat financially with his very shrewd signings that were sold for massive profit. He came here when most of the squad were geriatrics and we were in a similar position to now and changed that around.

He got us into the Champions league and got us to a FA Cup final and a semi final on a shoestring, as well as finishing regularly in the top 8. And there are posters on here complaining, rejoice we have a man who will coach this team properly unlike the last man who the players have openly admitted in the last day didnt do much if any coaching at all.

Moyes will know that this is no quick fix and to try and change the total negativity that Dyche brought to this club will take a little time. But on Wednesday against Villa a very good team I will go there with optimism and hope, I had neither of those feelings going to Goodison under Dyche.

Michael Lynch
19 Posted 11/01/2025 at 11:11:42
I thought Lyndon would nail it, and he hasn't disappointed.

This is a measured, intelligent reaction to, and explanation of, the events of the last few days and I commend it to the house.

Jim Wilson
20 Posted 11/01/2025 at 11:12:27
Now Moyes is here I wish him well. We must get behind him.

Does anyone know who Moyes may likely go for in the transfer market? He didn't have much pulling power when he last managed Everton so I hope that has improved.

I am hoping he sticks with the 451 formation which can also go to 433 or 424 with the right personnel. It is all about attacking intent and having the know how for me.

We do need a new manager bounce in his first few games.

Dennis Stevens
21 Posted 11/01/2025 at 12:18:43
Well written, Lyndon. However, my feelings are intensely anti-Moyes & I won't be logicalised away from that position by a sensible & balanced perspective.

Nonetheless, I am open to Moyes convincing me through his forthcoming endeavours. Perhaps he can start by securing a mid table finish - a Cup win wouldn't go amiss either!

Hector Blaukugel
22 Posted 11/01/2025 at 12:27:33
At last a sensible, fair and balanced adult post on this appointment. Some of the shit posts flying around yesterday were just fucking cringe and juvenile at best.

Moshiri is gone, things will hopefully improve, let's just give this a chance, eh, and see how it transpires.


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