David Moyes and The Friedkin Group on the same page regarding squad rebuilding

Moyes has a lot more prudence when it comes to signings.

The frustration with Sean Dyche overshadows the fact that he grasped a poisoned chalice, and did a good job steadying things with no money and point deductions, quite an achievement in truth.

Thank you and goodbye to Sean, welcome back to the evolved Moyes 2, I can't quite believe we have a dizzy 30 points already.

The chatter now shifted to the summer window rebuild shows new direction, and Moyes isn't stoking any fires yet, saying it how it us but with optimism, no more dour Dyche.

Good report, keep us in the loop please

The open question remains who will be in charge of the process of finding and signing these players. Thelwell has further burnished his record with Alcaraz, and his interview last week seems to indicate that he expects to continue as DoF, but you never know.

Ian, Weir has done a great job at Brighton, but personally I'd rather see Thelwell stay.

My preference is for Thelwell to carry on what he has been doing since he came here, balancing the books by selling players who he could, getting high prices where he could and also some£4M to £10M for others, loan deals, some good, some bad, some not wanted by managers buying players Dnaiye and Charlie could be prime assets, if Beto keeps scoring he could be another.

All in all I think Thelwell has done well if Weir does come in his place then I think Moyes has had a word and Moyes will be here for the full 2-5years of his contract providing the team keeps on improving but there is no guarantee of that.

Hindsight is 20/20, as they say.

Let’s not forget why the huge amount of money was spent by Moshiri on bringing in players and wages.

Very specifically it was an attempt to catapult us over the chasm that exists between roughly the top six teams in the league and those, like we had been for roughly a decade, who were basically competing for 7th to 14th.

The (very) simple idea was to essentially buy improved competitiveness with the rewards that could accrue from some relative success then paying off the money (over)spent in advance.

It ended up being a bad gamble but it was an ambitious plan and had some potential for success.

That chasm still exists - despite some teams rising whilst others are falling at the moment, the longer term picture looks pretty much the same - and spending significantly more money (wisely) is likely to be required at some stage.

That final assault to reach the summit is a number of years away. For a while, moderate investment in ‘steadfast yeoman’ types will be good enough, but at some point the sights will need to be set on a bunch of (likely to be temperamental) superstars if the full stature of the club is to be restored.

I don't think James ever felt "indignant" about anything in his life. As for that strike... incandescent!

We need to fill holes this summer with a number of first team ready players who can slot straight in. Then every window after that seek to improve one or two positions. Initially we may need a free signing or two, clever use of the loan market and target quality permanent signings, some ready and some for the future.

I can see us buying a striker (Igamane, Igor Jesus maybe?) and a really good RB. We also need a right winger and maybe another 10 with Doucoure leaving. A back up left back with potential to push Myko as well. It’s a big rebuild and Moyes will have his work cut out getting that to gel.

TFG like loans and use the system fully to their advantage, that’s fine but you build a solid team through permanent signings. I’d like to see them send a player from Roma on the sly too, there is some real quality in that team.

I have been a staunch defender of Thelwell having his contract extended. However, if they go the other way then I would not turn my nose up at Weir or Ashworth.

It’s going to be an exciting summer window and next season for sure and it’s wonderful to feel some justified optimism for a change. COYB!

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Esteve - Burnley
Fellows - wba
Harrison Duncan - Rotherham

Good thing this time though Jerome, Kenwright won’t be involved in any capacity whatsoever!

Good times ahead.

Some of the issues will be remnants of Kenwright &Co, but as you say Kenwright and his patrons will not be in charge to stemy any progress.

Moyes seems to be looking at Moyes 2 as a second chance.There is a quiet determination about him with no excuses and no attempt at sop for Evertonians.One of his first sentences on joining Everton again was it 'around here they think I hit a glass ceiling'.

We don't know his opinion on what happened after he left.He has never said a word, but I am sure he would have knowingly looked on and taken note.

Moyes is a committed Christian. He will see his job as a vocation and will want to improve on what he has done before.Everton he will see as his destiny.Working for the TFG will very much suit him.Old Moyes has learnt alot on his loan period away from Everton.

The fundamental definition point of a Premier League Manager is still being one.

He's got a graduate degree, a Masters in sports directorship, his coaching licence. He's also worked in player development and in football management, in addition to now being Brighton's DoF.

He seems to be pretty well regarded too.

This summer will be especially challenging, with a number of players coming to the end of their contracts and players whose loan deals finish. I think Moyes will offer Gana Gueye a new contract and why wouldn't he as he has been our best player in many games under Moyes. I think Harrison will be let go and unless he starts to add goals to his improved workrate I think he will let Lindstrom go. I think it will be interesting to see if he tries to make Mangala a permanent signing, although with Alcarez coming in he might not.

So for the first time in a few years we will have a manager who will be able to spend a bit of money on players.

Moyes is not soft nor deaf he’d put up with listening to Kenwright’s bullshit for eleven and a half years and was the highest earner at the club until Arteta had his wages increased to keep him here.

If I'm a Everton player now I don't think I'd be too overjoyed about the manager talking about 'improving the team'.
I suppose on the otherhand it should encourage them to try extra hard to impress him if they want to stay.

We are all smiles at the moment but it wont take very long for the mood to change if we go into a slump.

I always said Raymond that Moshiri’s biggest failing was to leave Bill in situ.

We have a number of players out of contract and some players who are of an age where the manager will have to make decisions on retaining or releasing them.

Given PSR rules does anybody know what range of finance the club will be in to recruit in terms of total finance available for the rebuild of the squad for 2025/26?

I've been thinking that myself.

If we're clear of PSR I think we could have plenty to spend in the summer if my understanding of how transfer fees are spread over the length of the contract, for accounting purposes, is correct.

With the naming rights deal hopefully sorted by the summer and the new Castore deal money counting from then (I think) and also extra income from the stadium there's no reason we can't buy half a dozen or more new players.

As I say, that opinion depends on my understanding of the fees etc being correct.

I asked the question a while back Brian about the stadium naming rights and was told the end of June, by someone more up to speed. I’m also hoping for some wriggle room for 6 or 7 new players, so we can push on.

As in, we buy a player for £30m on a 4 year contract so that's £7.5m that counts as spending for that year?

If that IS the case we could easily spend £100m or more even.

Is it also the case that club spending may be based upon generating club income and being able to spend a percentage or portion of that income?

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When Moyes was last here - he was generally buying players who would now be in the £20m to £40m price bracket.

This is the same price bracket that the likes of Forest, Brentford, Bournemouth etc do a fair bit of shopping. It's not big money anymore.

Moyes also had a few (Johnson, Yakubu and Beattie) who would now be in the £40m to £65m bracket.

With contracts ending for DCL, Young, Harrison, Lindstrom, Broja, Mangala, Doucoure, Gueye, Keane and Virginia that's a lot of squad to replace.

We can pad things out with loans and frees - and Thelwell has proved astute at that since he's been here.

Hopefully, TFG release a net spend of about £100m - which again isn't a lot these days - to get some genuine quality into the squad.

So are Brian and myself correct in how new signings are judged for PSR as in 36, 37 Robert? or are we wide of the mark there.

If Moyesey wants Weir as DoE, then so be it, but just like Dyche, Thelwell deserves credit for buying cheap and selling well at a time when the League's focus has been on screwing their less successful clubs.

Mangala is 27 and provides a cool head and superior squad depth at a very vulnerable spot. I've read conflicting reports on whether his loan deal includes a buy option, but I couldn't imagine a money-desperate Lille not being willing to dicker.

Lindstrom is 25 and having a season like McNeil had the year before we bought him -- no goals, no assists, yet showing value in both attack and defense. His buy option is £19 million, about what we are likely to pay for Tom Fellows this summer, but again everything is negotiable.

Exercise the option on Alcaraz, get McNeil and Ndiaye healthy and make sure Garner does his back stretches, and that's a pretty good young midfield core to start with right there.

I would have thought that Moyes and Thelwell will need Lindstrom to show a lot more in the remaining games if we're to turn his loan into a permanent deal.

As things stand I'm not convinced any of our loan players will be at the club next season - apart from Alcaraz.