Adam Clery did an interesting video on FourFourTwo on Youtube on how Moyes fixed Everton last season.

https://youtu.be/9eRUlsy8UcM

I see the Moyesiah has been nominated for August Manager of the Month. Jack Grealish has been nominated for the players award. A double to start the season would be good.

I'm convinced that, if TFG hadn't pulled the trigger on Dyche when they did, our luck would finally have run out and we'd have been relegated.

Second point on Moyes's new era in our new stadium, with a load of new, exciting signings, is this: Not that long ago, Moyes got West Ham into Europe with an aging, skinny squad… but look what happened.

The majority of us have been praying for mid-table stability for years. Now it actually looks likely to happen, maybe we supporters shouldn't get too carried away with hoping for Europe too soon.

Paul (3),

TFG didn't pull the trigger on Dyche, they were content for him to carry on.

Dyche pulled the trigger himself, giving Moyes the job.

Well he's the first manager since Marco Silva back in 2021 who has had any real cash to spend on quality players rather than loans and journeymen. That's certainly helped. But even last season he instilled a more attacking attitude in the players that paid off.
Now he's got rid of the mediocre loaners and high salary deadwood and used his much bigger transfer budget to bring in proper quality attack minded players. We can all see the difference. Now he has to make the HD stadium into a fortress. Do that and I think we'll do well this season.

As Frank just said, I think the difference is we now have 3 or 4 outstanding offensive players in the team hence the quality goals we are scoring.

At the back we have Pickford in goal who saves us many points, but the rest of our defenders are not top drawer unfortunately.

Not pissing away £25m apeice on the likes of Godfrey, Schneiderlin, Walcott and Tosun etc has helped

Depends what you mean by changed Zach.
Do you mean changed since Dyche, or since Moyes first stint at the club?
It’s probably too early early to say how different we are going to play under Moyes this season but the indications are certainly positive with his signing of creative attacking players and the seeming desire of the players to get the ball forward more quickly rather than pass it backwards.
This is a far cry from Dycheball which quite frankly was awful to watch at times even when we scraped a win.
Maybe my memory is failing me here, but I seem to remember in his earlier tenure that he favoured a strong defence and played not to concede and perhaps nick one to win.
If so this is a big difference from what seems to be his present philosophy,as he has hardly signed any defenders this time around and as we all know we definitely need 2 or3.
Depending on where he’s going to play Dibling,we could also use a genuine right winger with pace as we tend to play much too narrow at times.
As far as compared to change from Lampard,I can’t really comment as I hadn’t a clue what Franks plan was and I’m not sure he did either!
Time will soon give us a better idea of how he is going to play and anyway there’s not that many games before the next transfer window opens!!

New type of "offensive" God, I have suffered many in my life with "offensive" skills.

But. now we are deciding who is best and with potential and below 35 years of age.

Jaysus 64 and either full of dementia or maybe, just maybe, it is a great new reality.

Thanks for that Phil, I will check it out later with my assistant coach, who is a beer.

I think how Moyes has changed is largely down to the player additions. Not taking anything away from Moyes, but the additions have allowed some extensions of our basic play which was much improved. We were never going to unsettle defences with one ball carrier possessing speed.

That said, Moyes has a fantastic opportunity to remake himself and bolt from the defensive, knife to gunfight type of manager.

This plays two ways: Everton now have some quality and chemistry across the core of the squad, mainly in midfield. Additionally, there is no established style of play or system opposing teams can anticipate and setup to contain.

I could go on but it is international week and some are exhausted with Moyesology. I will add that to have this quality assembled without a lot of disgruntled deadwood players could really lift the team's spirit and Moyes is a type of manager who can tap into that well.

Zach only time will tell if Moyes has changed or not, I didnt buy the myth that he was defensive minded first time around, surely the signings of Pienaar, Baines, Fellani, Arteta and Cahill makes that argument a little spurious. And certainly the addition of Grealish, Dewsbury Hall and Dibling would also suggest that he still wants us to be attractive to watch, but as he has said many times winning is the most important but if you can entertain as well then that's a bonus.
The problem for Moyes and all the other managers managing sides who don't usually finish in the top 6 is finance. Because of PSR clubs outside the elite are limited much more than those who regularly compete in Europe and the top end of the league. And even clubs like Forest will find it hard to compete in the league while now having to compete in Europe.
So who should we compare ourselves against, to know if the manager has done a good job or not. We cant buy the players the top 6 can buy and our 11 may be good but its what you have on the bench that determines games more and more.

Following Sean Dyche must be every manager's dream scenario.

How they've changed is obvious - they didn't get relegated...where they'll end up and how they play under Moyes is - after only 3 games - yet to be seen.

As of now - opinions differ.

Liam #12

From an Everton perspective... following Rafa or Lampard.

Back in the day... following Moyes MK1 was argued by some to be a penalty kick.

I was going to reply to you on that other thread until you started claiming memory loss Brendan!

Tony #15

There's another thread?

Some people might use the phrase, “hanging by a thread” to describe people who sometimes suffer from selective memory loss Brendan. Goodnight mate💙

Tony #17

The "Goodnight mate" bit... I understood.

I was in two minds about bringing Moyes back but prepared to give him a fair go, as I have done with every manager. I've been really impressed with him so far. He has obviously picked up a lot of experience since leaving us. That seems to have brought a quiet confidence to him. He is pragmatic and flexible and not wedded to any particular system which enables him to get the best out whatever players he has. His style last season is very different from this season due to the players he has available. The other aspect is that the players obviously respect him. JG, for example, made in quite clear that one of the major reasons he came to Everton was because of Moyes. That respect and belief from the players, along with competition for players, translates to better performances.

Frank

I’m with you mate. I got frustrated with Moyes glass ceiling mentality but after everyone we’ve had since, coupled with his WHU trophy success I was torn. So far the results speak for themselves. We hired him as we were staring relegation in the face. We survived comfortably and now we’ve two wins from three. I think he’s earned the right for us to be open minded and optimistic

I read that Dyche was on some radio programme saying him and Thelwell were trying to get Grealish and Dewsbury Hall. I believe this as much as the shit that comes out of Farage.

I read that Dyche was on some radio programme saying him and Thelwell were trying to get Grealish and Dewsbury Hall. I believe this as much as the shit that comes out of Farage.