Season › 2024-25 › General Forum Premier League — Matchweek 21 By Michael Kenrick 14/01/2025 86 Comments [Jump to last] There's a full slate of Premier League matches in midweek, with all 10 games being shown live in the UK on TNT Sports: Tuesday 14 January 202519:30 Brentford v Manchester City — TNT Sports 219:30 Chelsea v Bournemouth — TNT Sports 319:30 West Ham United v Fulham — TNT Sports 420:00 Nottingham Forest v Liverpool — TNT Sports 1 Wednesday 15 January 202519:30 Everton v Aston Villa — TNT Sports 219:30 Leicester City v Crystal Palace — TNT Sports 419:30 Newcastle United v Wolves — TNT Sports 320:00 Arsenal v Tottenham Hotspur — TNT Sports 1 Thursday 16 January 202519:30 Ipswich Town v Brighton & Hove Albion — TNT Sports 220:00 Manchester United v Southampton — TNT Sports 1 Reader Comments (86) Note: the following content is not moderated or vetted by the site owners at the time of submission. Comments are the responsibility of the poster. Disclaimer () Paul Ferry 1 Posted 14/01/2025 at 19:41:55 RIP Tony Book. A gentleman. Only last night I happened to watch Man City at West Ham in 1970. 3-0 to City, Book was immaculate, Bell was sheer class.Look out, new Saints manager: new chairman just announced that managerial reforms will be imminent.Also, RIP Tony Slattery, one of the funniest but sadly one of most tragic figures of the last four decades. Liam Mogan 2 Posted 14/01/2025 at 19:44:44 Cole Palmer what a player this kid is.He reminds me of what Pep said about Messi. For the first 5 or 10 minutes, he'll just walk around finding the space, reading the angles, knowing where to stand, where to run. Like a computer amassing the info then acting on it. Paul Ferry 3 Posted 14/01/2025 at 19:54:14 And in even better FPL news Liam, CP is my skipper - what a finish -and I also have Jackson for the assist. Paul Ferry 4 Posted 14/01/2025 at 20:04:41 Potter 2-0. Bill Gall 5 Posted 14/01/2025 at 20:08:16 Change of manager not doing too bad for West Ham… Bill Gall 6 Posted 14/01/2025 at 20:09:39 And Forest go 1 up Paul Ferry 7 Posted 14/01/2025 at 20:09:52 Get in! Had to be him. Classic Forest goal. James Marshall 8 Posted 14/01/2025 at 20:11:49 Lovely finish that. Gwaan Forest! Brent Stephens 9 Posted 14/01/2025 at 20:12:48 Delicious. Paul Ferry 10 Posted 14/01/2025 at 20:21:14 I'm listening on 5Live and I'm not sure how much more I can take of Clinton Morrison. Liam Mogan 11 Posted 14/01/2025 at 20:27:36 I'm not even listening to Clinton Morrison and I don't know how much more of him I can take. Paul Ferry 12 Posted 14/01/2025 at 20:30:11 Liam, he must be the thickest pundit ever. Liam Mogan 13 Posted 14/01/2025 at 20:31:24 He's on that soccer Saturday programme and makes the twat that is Paul Merson sound eloquent. Paul Ferry 14 Posted 14/01/2025 at 20:34:38 I don't think that I could physically watch that Liam. Liam Mogan 15 Posted 14/01/2025 at 20:35:41 I take my eyes out with spoons first Paul Allen Rodgers 16 Posted 14/01/2025 at 20:37:15 Liam, I don't mind Clinton, he at least has a sense of humour. Whereas Merson on Sky Sports News is just willing the shite to score. About time he was put out to grass. Liam Mogan 17 Posted 14/01/2025 at 20:37:47 That Murillo is fearless! Liam Mogan 18 Posted 14/01/2025 at 20:41:08 Can't stand Merson. Read his autobiography. What a nob. Most of his 'hilarious japes' consisted of him having a shit somewhere when off his face. In Perry Groves pillowcase, on David Seaman's balcony etc. Hilarious. Liam Mogan 19 Posted 14/01/2025 at 20:44:04 Some cracking teeth, or lack of them, amongst the crowd in scabsville. Paul Ferry 20 Posted 14/01/2025 at 20:45:26 Yep Merson is just horrible and I have no idea how he has been on for so long (Tony Adams doing some work behind the scenes?) and, as Allen says, a red shite toad/fawn.Forest fans sound like they're singing a song to Cranberries Zombie. Paul Ferry 21 Posted 14/01/2025 at 20:46:20 Biting their knuckles, Liam, when they were bussed in in those scab coaches. Bill Gall 22 Posted 14/01/2025 at 21:11:33 Game on! Brentford score with 8 minutes to go!!! Paul Ferry 23 Posted 14/01/2025 at 21:14:09 Forest looking relatively comfortable. Robertson and Maccallister have been awful and M should have got a yellow there. Liam Mogan 24 Posted 14/01/2025 at 21:17:49 The shite continually foul and never get booked James Marshall 25 Posted 14/01/2025 at 21:19:34 This is a very enjoyable game to watch. I rarely enjoy games! Liam Mogan 26 Posted 14/01/2025 at 21:20:07 Some great one touch stuff by Forest. Bill Gall 27 Posted 14/01/2025 at 21:21:22 And City have dropped a 2 goal lead Paul Ferry 28 Posted 14/01/2025 at 21:22:03 Shocking by Anderson at exactly the same time as the Forest gumps are singing 'same old scousers. Liam Mogan 29 Posted 14/01/2025 at 21:24:31 What a shit goal to concede Paul Ferry 30 Posted 14/01/2025 at 21:25:07 ah feck James Marshall 31 Posted 14/01/2025 at 21:28:39 That was shite. McManaman gets right on my nerves too Liam Mogan 32 Posted 14/01/2025 at 21:30:22 He's another awful commentator and a big lanky cry baby Paul Ferry 33 Posted 14/01/2025 at 21:34:45 He looked great in that cream/vanilla FA CUP final suit though. Liam Mogan 34 Posted 14/01/2025 at 21:41:50 Apart from the piss stain the shape of a 50-pence piece. Paul Ferry 35 Posted 14/01/2025 at 21:47:11 Clinton Morrison is desperate for a shite win here; he is absolutely doing my head in Paul Ferry 36 Posted 16/01/2025 at 19:54:19 Kudos to those Saints fans who have made the trip up there. Liam Mogan 37 Posted 16/01/2025 at 20:47:14 Get in Brighton Liam Mogan 38 Posted 16/01/2025 at 21:02:21 Watching Brighton, it's amazing me how many first time accurate passes they make. Everything is quick with as few touches as possible.So that is what footballers are supposed to do? Not take 16 touches in between your feet before you get your head up, like the much-maligned Jack Harrison? Liam Mogan 39 Posted 16/01/2025 at 21:07:37 And when Brighton players misplace passes (even difficult ones) the others are having a go at them, telling them to up their levels.Ours pat each other on the back and say "Unlucky". Mike Price 40 Posted 16/01/2025 at 21:11:33 Whats really scary is that Soton look way better than our lot!They can pass, control and have plenty of pace. Sulemana and Dibling are electric. Liam Mogan 41 Posted 16/01/2025 at 21:12:17 And now a Brighton player comes off the bench and scores.We've been socially engineered the last few years to accept complete mediocrity and ineptitude. Joe McMahon 42 Posted 16/01/2025 at 21:12:25 Brighton doing us a much needed favour here. Liam Mogan 43 Posted 16/01/2025 at 21:13:33 I watched most of Soton first half and they were all over Man Utd, Mike. Mike Price 44 Posted 16/01/2025 at 21:15:19 Hoping that Man Utd get at least a draw against Soton… what have we become! Paul Ferry 45 Posted 16/01/2025 at 21:16:10 Happy with Ipswich losing and Saints winning, but goodness Saints are showing the very things that we need. Dibling is terrific. Liam Mogan 46 Posted 16/01/2025 at 21:19:03 That miss from Antony was on the Calvert-Lewin scale!!! Oliver Molloy 47 Posted 16/01/2025 at 21:21:13 Unbelievable miss from Antony - if you missed it watch match of - even Calvert Lewin would have scored that - or actually maybe not ! Paul Ferry 48 Posted 16/01/2025 at 21:21:17 Antony is utter shite Ricky Oak 49 Posted 16/01/2025 at 21:24:42 Dirty mancs, only way they could stop getting ripped apart, funny we never see the var or a any indication of what happened to our new signing Dibbling Rob Halligan 50 Posted 16/01/2025 at 21:26:43 A fairly comfortable win for Brighton in the end. Overall they were the better team. Ipswich had some good long range shots in the first half, but you would expect any goalkeeper to save them. They had bugger all attempts in the second half though, and Brighton could have got more than two. Not looking good for Ipswich in their next two games either. Edward Rogers 51 Posted 16/01/2025 at 21:27:59 Paul,We'll probably sign him this week!! Mike Price 52 Posted 16/01/2025 at 21:34:06 Sulemana reminds me a bit of Mane, exactly the type we need. I think we may have been in for him but he chose Soton! Liam Mogan 53 Posted 16/01/2025 at 21:34:12 That Yoro at CB for Man U looks out of his depth atm Liam Mogan 54 Posted 16/01/2025 at 21:40:59 Soton will be amad at letting that goal in Oliver Molloy 55 Posted 16/01/2025 at 21:47:43 The current standard of referring, linesmen / woman in the premier league is absolutely terrible. Liam Mogan 56 Posted 16/01/2025 at 21:48:49 They'll be amader now Oliver Molloy 57 Posted 16/01/2025 at 21:49:26 Southamapton manager looks like he is going to kill somebody. lol Liam Mogan 58 Posted 16/01/2025 at 21:52:38 Amader and amader Ricky Oak 59 Posted 16/01/2025 at 21:56:05 Took Dibbling out,,normal officiating resumed. Corrupt af Rob Halligan 60 Posted 16/01/2025 at 22:01:00 Oliver, that ball that was about two yards over the byline which would have given Man Utd a corner, was ridiculous. The linesman, albeit on the far side, was about ten yards behind play, but FFS, he and the referee should have seen it. Dave Abrahams 61 Posted 16/01/2025 at 22:01:03 United looked shambolic until that kid came up with a ten minute hat trick. we are being helped with these teams below us keeping us above the dreaded bottom three. Paul Ferry 62 Posted 16/01/2025 at 22:01:13 Guess who I cut from my fantasy team this week Rob Halligan 63 Posted 16/01/2025 at 22:02:37 Mitoma? John Atkins 64 Posted 16/01/2025 at 22:03:05 Fuck me how lucky have we been this week Could have been a hell of a lot worse as I expected Leicester to get at least a draw, we desperately need some points from somewhere. We really need a couple of additions before the deadline Its definitely 3 from 5 now Paul Ferry 65 Posted 16/01/2025 at 22:03:43 Dave A, did you see the link I put up for you? It was 35 minutes or so highlights that I watched the other day and made me think of you - 14-10-1967 Chelsea v us. Loved the team we put out:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8L0mTjBi5o Edward Rogers 66 Posted 16/01/2025 at 22:04:12 Harrison?, Doucoure? DCL? Paul Ferry 67 Posted 16/01/2025 at 22:04:15 I wish Rob Paul Ferry 68 Posted 16/01/2025 at 22:04:36 Ed wins - Doucoure!!! Paul Ferry 70 Posted 16/01/2025 at 22:19:48 Has anyone else seen the Charlie Adam joining Moyes's coaching team story? Oliver Molloy 71 Posted 16/01/2025 at 22:22:28 Yes, Rob, Totally unbelievable that was – I wonder if the VAR crowd would have had a word in his ear! Edward Rogers 72 Posted 16/01/2025 at 22:34:56 Jesus H Christ Paul,Tell me you're joking, please. Phil Roberts 73 Posted 16/01/2025 at 22:43:42 Paul - what the heck is Moyse's?????OK guys here are the rules from someone who got Grade 6 GCE English back in the early 70s.Pickford = Pickford's Moyes = Moyes'If it ends in an S, then it is just an apostrophe after the S. It is not Moye's. It is not Moyes's. It is Moyes'. Come on, we are Everton supporters. We are educated unlike the knuckle draggers over the park. Tom Bowers 74 Posted 16/01/2025 at 22:52:47 Soton played so well and one cannot believe they are bottom but then came the last 10 minutes and it was almost Everton v Bournemouth again,Manure were just that. Why did they ever sign Martinez or Hojland?Thank God all three below us lost so let's hope it's a lifeline they put to good use from now onwards. Paul Ferry 75 Posted 16/01/2025 at 22:54:05 It's been reported Edward, I'm afraid. I suppose it might be a Lytham, Fleetwood, Blackpool, or Preston sort of thing. Simon Harrison 76 Posted 16/01/2025 at 23:32:46 Paul, Adam lives in Poulton-Le-Fylde, which is about 11 miles from Lytham St. Annes where Moyes lives.I seriously, and I mean seriously doubt that Charlie Adam will be joining David Moyes's backroom staff in any capacity. He hasn't managed or coached any higher than the Championship. Not to mention his chronic success rate, or rather acute failure rate. Simon Harrison 77 Posted 16/01/2025 at 23:35:06 Hang on, wasn't Charlie good with in a dead-ball situation? Maybe he has joined Moyes, Mackinlay, Irvine and Baines as the set-piece specialist?If that's the case we're doomed, considering how many goals that Fleetwood conceded from corners when he was manager there! Paul Ferry 78 Posted 16/01/2025 at 23:47:39 Simon, let's just hope that it is the usual 'report' bluster, though I imagine Moyes and Adam get together now and then. Mike Gaynes 79 Posted 16/01/2025 at 23:47:51 Phil #73, at age 4 or so I decided that my house needed an identifying sign, so I wrote "The Gaynes's" on the front stoop in black crayon.I heard it in both ears -- from my dad for the crayon scrawling on HIS house, and from my teacher mom for the punctuation error. Mike Gaynes 80 Posted 16/01/2025 at 23:54:27 Simon, in this age of specialization, how about one set piece specialist for attack and one for defense? Simon Harrison 81 Posted 16/01/2025 at 00:19:27 PF, maybe however I doubt the very religious Moyes would seek out Adam for anything; though maybe the 'tother way round.They're both Glaswegians I suppose? I just can't see Moyes' more 'moral' attitude coping with the more 'hedonistic' lifestyle of Adam.?I'm just guessing there though?MG, nb Good to hear you and yours are well, of the other thread! 👍😀Well yes, maybe you can have an attacking SP Coach, and a defensive on.From my perspective a set piece coach is someone who works out how best to defend corners and throw-ins from the opposition by data and statistical work, also analysing what the opposition usually do with free kicks in various parts of the field. (Which is the main issue with our decreased efficacy with our set pieces both in attack, and with our defending)The other main job is obviously the reverse.Therefore, while it would seem logical to have both an attacking and defensive set-piece coach. In reality, it would seem like a heck of a lot of duplication of effort? Though who knows?I guessing SPCs, are only as good as their data/statistical analysis of the opposition whether that is done by themselves or the Sports Data Analysis team.Shame we couldn't land Anthony Barry (now at Bayern) when Lampard came with his gang of six (or was it seven?) Simon Harrison 82 Posted 17/01/2025 at 00:25:20 PF Just read this from Ranger's News (a little like Everton news apparently, ie, run by Bhoys fans):Charlie Adam set for shock Premier League job Simon Harrison 83 Posted 17/01/2025 at 00:26:05 It seems he does know the Moyeses very well, considering he lodged with them... Paul Ferry 84 Posted 17/01/2025 at 01:08:17 Ah! Cheers Simon. Tell me more about CA's hedonistic lifestyle.His brother is Charlie's agent! That's a bit of a giveaway and not too much bargaining required.Maybe it will cheers Moyes up to have his old lodger around. Dave Abrahams 85 Posted 17/01/2025 at 12:59:23 Paul (65),I tried getting it up with the Algebra link code you gave me but couldn't get it, but got the information of the game with a 3-1 win and goals from John Hurst and two from Joe Royle. 1967 — with a title won 4 years before, an FA Cup just won, another FA Cup final ahead of us, followed by another title — what a time to be a Bluenose watching fabulous footballers even when we didn't win anything.After that feast came a bleedin' famine for 14 years… then Kendall and Harvey gave us another 4-year feast and since then bleedin starvation — except for Genial Joe's FA Cup win! Danny O'Neill 86 Posted 18/01/2025 at 07:58:07 Dave,Ive told this tale before, but it always tickles me and remains vividly in the memory.On the tube back to my Aunties in Battersea after winning the FA Cup. Still only 12, I was fascinated by an Evertonian sat across from me, clearly leathered or punch drunk with joy. Maybe both.He was asleep, but kept muttering to himself “14 years”. Every now and then, he would awaken and shout it out loud. At one point, he turned his attention to me. “Aye lad. 14 years. Were coming back”.Back to his blue tinted sleep!!Its the small memories that stick!!Paul, Calvert-Lewin in your team this week. Something has to give and we surely cant have seen him score his last goal for Everton. Denver Daniels 87 Posted 18/01/2025 at 08:11:30 I still believe in DCL. One goal and the flood gates will open. Add Your Comments In order to post a comment, you need to be logged in as a registered user of the site. » Log in now Or Sign up as a ToffeeWeb Member — it's free, takes just a few minutes and will allow you to post your comments on articles and Talking Points submissions across the site. How to get rid of these ads and support TW © ToffeeWeb