Season › 2024-25 › General Forum Premier League — Matchweek 22 By Michael Kenrick 18/01/2025 93 Comments [Jump to last] A full slate of fixtures across the weekend, but only 3 games in the Saturday afternoon 3 pm blackout slot, with 2 games on Sunday afternoon also not being shown on UK TV. These are the ones that are: Saturday 18 January 202512:30 Newcastle Utd v AFC Bournemouth — TNT Sports 117:30 Arsenal v Aston Villa — Sky Sports Sunday 19 January 202514:00 Everton v Tottenham Hotspur — Sky Sports16:30 Ipswich Town v Manchester City — Sky Sports Monday 20 January 202520:00 Chelsea v Wolves — Sky Sports Reader Comments (93) Note: the following content is not moderated or vetted by the site owners at the time of submission. Comments are the responsibility of the poster. Disclaimer () Andrea Jacobs 1 Posted 18/01/2025 at 13:12:06 Bournemouth are exceptionally good.Watching this game is weird, I don't watch many other games, there's fast attacking, skilful football, it's very strange to see. I don't expect to see anything like this tomorrow. Spurs will huff and puff, and we'll do our best to nullify the game and put the crowd to sleep. The grimmest of grim times. No wonder the atmosphere has gone completely stale. Michael Kenrick 2 Posted 18/01/2025 at 13:17:44 The Cherries so dangerous coming forward. Kluivert, superb finish, 1-2 to Bournemouth just before the break, Skunk Maggots sick as parrots. All getting a bit spikey, 7 minutes of added time and the handbags come out, Toonies demanding more added time because they were attacking. Andrea Jacobs 3 Posted 18/01/2025 at 13:25:03 Bournemouth are one of the best sides in Europe from what I can see. I've seen a couple of Champions League games this season, they're as good as anything out there. Must be nice! Rob Halligan 4 Posted 18/01/2025 at 13:28:59 Michael, I thought the same about them wanting more time. Maybe let's see if they can score again before blowing the half-time whistle. Fucking Skunk Maggots! Jim Bennings 5 Posted 18/01/2025 at 13:32:34 Bournemouth are everything I wish we were.A small club that sells its best players, changes its manager frequently but keeps on churning up quality football teams.What are you doing that we are not, lads? Can we have the secret recipe? Fred Quick 6 Posted 18/01/2025 at 13:32:54 When we pulled Bournemouth out of the hat for the FA Cup tie, I knew it would be a difficult tie for Everton, having seen them get a draw at Stamford Bridge and now they are leading at Newcastle, I think it will be an even more difficult hurdle for Everton to overcome. Imagine what Goodison Park would be like if all of the Cherries players were wearing Everton blue instead of the red and black stripes, one day we might get a side that we can truly get behind with enthusiasm and hope; that day still looks an eternity away. Jim Bennings 7 Posted 18/01/2025 at 13:46:43 FredCurse of the culture of the club.I fear those particular Cherries players were wearing Blue at Goodison Park then they'd have long since been stifled of the talent they are showing at Bournemouth. Robert Tressell 8 Posted 18/01/2025 at 13:52:48 Jim # 5, there's no secret recipe to what Bournemouth are doing. A big part of it is that they have invested over £300M more than us in players since 2021. That's a heck of an advantage.And they don't sell more than we do. Quite the opposite. Since 2021 we have sold €316.05M worth of players. Bournemouth have sold only €94.49M worth of players (and €64.30M of that was Solanke).Then it is a case of the profile of players they buy.There is a big focus on pretty well-known high potential younger players age 18 to 22 – such as: - Zabarnyi - Huijsen - Soler - Kerkez - OuattaraThese are not hidden gems. They are hiding in plain sight in international U21 games, Champions League, Ligue 1, Eredivisie etc. All the scouts know them – including ours.They also pick up high-performing younger players from the Championship and relegated Premier League clubs – such as: - Scott - Semenyo - Tavernier - Aarons - Adams - SinisterraMost importantly, they don't buy any players from Premier League clubs (except relegated clubs) because there is no value there whatsoever. So, the simple recipe is this: spend quite a lot of money – and spend it in the markets where you can find good value and Champions League potential players. Steve Mink 9 Posted 18/01/2025 at 13:55:38 The smaller clubs which are doing well seem to do two things well:1. Recruit a coach who can coach an effective pressing game2. Buy players who can play that way, e.g. they tend not to buy 36-year old full-backs.We continue to fall over on 1. Michael Kenrick 10 Posted 18/01/2025 at 13:57:00 Great goal by Ouattara but ruled out... pity, it woulda been 1-3! Jim Bennings 11 Posted 18/01/2025 at 13:58:05 Robert.I know they've spent well, but as you state, it's what they've actually done with it that matters.Under Moshiri we spent so much money between 2016 and 2020 that we should have at least been where Bournemouth are now in terms of having an exciting team to watch.Travesty really that the money was spent so poorly on player recruitment and managerial recruitments and sackings. Joe McMahon 12 Posted 18/01/2025 at 14:00:36 Steve @9, it about time we have to accept that the likes of Bournemouth, Brighton et al have overtaken Everton, even though we have also spent or wasted millions with no plan. Brighton would not want Dyche or Moyes as manager, not anymore. Edward Rogers 13 Posted 18/01/2025 at 14:00:42 To think just a couple of months ago, we played them off the park for 80-odd minutes. Must admit tho', they look really good today. Andrea Jacobs 14 Posted 18/01/2025 at 14:05:24 Robert,How can they have a £260M whatever net spend and not be breaking PSR? Plus, like you say, it's not really about the amounts is it? It's the profile of player that matters and the coach you employ. It's just basic competence with a bit of visionary risk-taking. Also, Iraola could 've easily been sacked early on but they stuck with him. Marco Siva anyone? Robert Tressell 15 Posted 18/01/2025 at 14:16:11 Jim # 11, yes in 2016 to 2020 we idiotically bought the most expensive average players we could find. We bought heavily from the Premier League. We bought many older players too. It very predictably destroyed our finances at the same time as downgraded the quality of the team.Andrea # 14, how can Bournemouth spend so much more than us without breaching PSR. To be honest I don't know. All I can tell you is what they have spent - because that's easily available in the public domain.I think it is also fair to say that Iraola is a good manager - but if he had been our manager in the period 2021 to the present day, we wouldn't be watching the football being served up by Bournemouth. We would probably be cursing his name and hailing some other bloke in charge of a good squad at the Vitality. Andrea Jacobs 16 Posted 18/01/2025 at 14:25:00 Lets hope theyve all got the flu or something when it comes to that FA Cup tie. Soren Moyer 17 Posted 18/01/2025 at 14:25:30 1-3 Michael Kenrick 18 Posted 18/01/2025 at 14:26:59 OMG, what a screamer for Kluivert's hat-trick!Fat half-naked Skunk Maggots throwing their beer on the pitch. Soren Moyer 19 Posted 18/01/2025 at 14:28:53 Almost 4! Michael Kenrick 20 Posted 18/01/2025 at 14:29:08 Coulda been 4 if they had Calvert-Lewin on that one-on-one... Not! Fred Quick 21 Posted 18/01/2025 at 14:29:17 It was a great strike Michael, I think that Bournemouth have created more chances in this single game, than Everton have created away from Goodison all season, oh there's another good goal for the Cherries. Soren Moyer 22 Posted 18/01/2025 at 14:29:25 It is now lol. Andrea Jacobs 23 Posted 18/01/2025 at 14:29:44 Very amusing. Glad I watched this. Michael Kenrick 24 Posted 18/01/2025 at 14:30:34 Now that is embarrassing! Phil Wood 25 Posted 18/01/2025 at 14:33:18 Thank God I've got Kluivert on my bench for Fantasy. AAAAAAAARGH! Soren Moyer 26 Posted 18/01/2025 at 14:33:53 Meanwhile at Everton, we are hoping for a draw against spurs at home!!! Jim Bennings 27 Posted 18/01/2025 at 14:34:13 You can see how that lad is Patrick Kluiverts son, his old man certainly knew where the net was. Kunal Desai 28 Posted 18/01/2025 at 14:35:04 Sadly we do not have a fraction of what Bournemouth having in the attacking areas.Ouattara, Semenyo, Kluivert and Sinisterra all walk into our side. Rob Halligan 29 Posted 18/01/2025 at 14:35:13 Great pass by Anthony Gordon for the third goal!Pity it was for the wrong team though! 😂😂😂 Joe McMahon 30 Posted 18/01/2025 at 14:42:26 Soren, an actual goal would be nice. Dave Lynch 31 Posted 18/01/2025 at 14:43:08 We can only dream of DCL shooting like that. Oliver Molloy 32 Posted 18/01/2025 at 14:47:00 Iraola doing some job - owner at Bournemouth got rid of O'Neil and everyone thought he was crazy - but no, very much looks like he was right ! Soren Moyer 33 Posted 18/01/2025 at 14:49:33 Joe, not familiar with the word "Goal"! Must look it up! 😬 Robert birks 34 Posted 18/01/2025 at 15:03:49 Come on you Fulham😂 Michael Lynch 35 Posted 18/01/2025 at 15:30:02 Andrea @1 that's exactly what I was thinking - I don't watch loads of PL games, so maybe all of the games (except for ours) are like that. Both teams looking to go forward, some crisp passing, risk-taking, great finishing, desperate defending etc.Both teams looked miles ahead of us, we really are in the stone ages with the squad we have and the style we play, and it's deeply upsetting.I also have no idea how teams like Bournemouth can stay the right side of PSR with the amounts they spend, especially as they have a ground capacity of about 11,000 and are hardly going to attract shed-loads of corporate income, advertising or sponsorship. Edward Rogers 36 Posted 18/01/2025 at 15:31:24 How come every thread is used as a vehicle to slag off Calvert-Lewin? Last time I looked he's still an Everton player, and surely our role as supporters is to support? John Raftery 37 Posted 18/01/2025 at 15:40:54 Michael (35) I suspect they are not paying any of their squad over £100k per week as we once did, and still do, for some of our players.It is interesting to note Dyche was sacked after losing to high flying Forest and narrowly to Bournemouth who can beat anyone on their day.Most of the teams in the top half of the table have three or four attackers who would walk into our team. Robert Tressell 38 Posted 18/01/2025 at 15:44:57 Andrea / Michael - there are plenty of boring games being played in the Premier League. It is very overhyped. But on the whole - Everton do play slow, poor attacking football. Which is unsurprising because (compared with our rivals) we have slow, poor attackers (which for me includes the full-backs). Dave Lynch 39 Posted 18/01/2025 at 16:19:42 Edward@36He's stealing a living, nothing will convince me otherwise Liam Mogan 40 Posted 18/01/2025 at 16:27:46 I dint think there's as many teams as limited or as dull to watch as us. Watching Brentford V Hades atm and Brentford are doing the low block stuff we supposedly specialise in. The difference between them and us is that they have players who can pass, move and play quick transition when they have the ball.Our players are so one-dimensional. Colin Crooks 41 Posted 18/01/2025 at 16:41:10 2-0 Fulham Jeff Armstrong 42 Posted 18/01/2025 at 16:43:37 Fkn bent linesman flagging a really tight Brentford attack before the move was finished, corrupt, they dont flag even 3 yard blatants usually. Liam Mogan 43 Posted 18/01/2025 at 16:45:42 Brentford breaking on Satan's Sons at will Liam Mogan 44 Posted 18/01/2025 at 16:47:16 Yes Jeff. Bad eggs the lot of them. Lost count the number of fouls the shite commit and don't get booked but other teams do. Paul Ferry 45 Posted 18/01/2025 at 16:50:19 bastards Edward Rogers 46 Posted 18/01/2025 at 16:51:54 Devils Team Liam Mogan 47 Posted 18/01/2025 at 16:51:58 Their souls are forever damned Pete Hughes 48 Posted 18/01/2025 at 16:52:39 That Scottish bellend on skysports screaming the studio down when the devils 11 went 1 up is sickening ! Paul Ferry 49 Posted 18/01/2025 at 16:52:47 Feck me, evil twats Paul Ferry 50 Posted 18/01/2025 at 16:53:34 time to mute Liam Mogan 51 Posted 18/01/2025 at 16:53:56 They are all bellends on skyports Edward Rogers 52 Posted 18/01/2025 at 16:55:07 Second yellow, surely? Jeff Armstrong 53 Posted 18/01/2025 at 16:55:41 Thats a second yellow/red for Nunez, what happened.. nothing. Bent wankers them officials. Liam Mogan 54 Posted 18/01/2025 at 16:57:18 That's shocking that. Could have even be a straight red. Ref bottled it and pretended he'd not seen it. Even Spock on the touchline winced. Rob Halligan 55 Posted 18/01/2025 at 17:02:06 Just seen the RS score, and the time of the goals. Should Nunez have been sent off before or after scoring? Michael Lynch 56 Posted 18/01/2025 at 17:04:25 He should have been sent off after he was born Rob Paul Ferry 57 Posted 18/01/2025 at 17:07:52 Hilarious when Ian Dennis on 5live says 1725 happy Liverpool fans go back to Merseyside smiling Edward Rogers 58 Posted 18/01/2025 at 17:08:04 Cue Arsenal sh****g the bed now. All away wins so far. Mike Connolly 59 Posted 18/01/2025 at 17:10:08 Watch the matches id say our Midfiedls is totaly different than the rest. Our midfield walk into empty spaces go round in a circle and then pass back. Where as the other teams mid Run into spaces and drive forward. also we never come out of a 50 50 with the ball. in The EPL we have the slowest team Joe McMahon 60 Posted 18/01/2025 at 17:17:29 Edward, Liverpool will win the title. Arsenal are even bigger cheats than them and don't forget Artetas antices on the sideline. Allen Rodgers 61 Posted 18/01/2025 at 17:22:47 Just when I thought it was safe to watch MOTD the shite go and do that. With the help of the officials of course. Liam Mogan 62 Posted 18/01/2025 at 17:23:19 Joe 60, wash your mouth out with a bar of coal tar. No one, not even Nasty Nick from Big Brother 1, cheats more than the spawns of Satan. Joe McMahon 63 Posted 18/01/2025 at 17:27:58 Liam, sorry you are right, I had brainfog for a minute. Still can't stand Arteta abd Arsenal though. Liam Mogan 64 Posted 18/01/2025 at 17:32:42 Yes, the Arse are right jodrell bankers Jeff Armstrong 65 Posted 18/01/2025 at 17:33:19 Rob#55, Nunez had already scored twice when he should have got a straight red/second yellow, terrible challenge.Should have walked and had his goals chalked off for being a complete twat.😏 Paul Ferry 66 Posted 18/01/2025 at 17:33:22 We can say 'shittingl' Edward Jeff Armstrong 67 Posted 18/01/2025 at 17:37:49 Btw, Mings is shite, I thought Id get that in before the mistakes. Jeff Armstrong 68 Posted 18/01/2025 at 17:40:51 Get in , accepted for first ever event at BMD 2 tickets for U18 game. Liam Mogan 69 Posted 18/01/2025 at 17:45:59 Mike 59. You are bang on. The speed and accuracy of other teams in final third is like night and day to what we get served up. Liam Mogan 70 Posted 18/01/2025 at 17:51:06 Thomas Tuchel and Nosferatu have never been seen in the same room at the same time. Edward Rogers 71 Posted 18/01/2025 at 17:51:49 That's a Grammar school education for you Paul😀...seriously, not sure if I don't hate them more than I love Everton these days. Jeff Armstrong 72 Posted 18/01/2025 at 17:53:18 Liam, alls Tuchel needs is a good pan of scouse down him. Liam Mogan 73 Posted 18/01/2025 at 17:57:01 I got the 'better luck next time pal' email for BMD, Jeff. Paul Ferry 74 Posted 18/01/2025 at 18:15:53 Tuchel, Lee, Emery.I went to a grammar school shite bollocks buggerOut ladies just gone 1-0 down to Mrs Emery's girls Jeff Armstrong 75 Posted 18/01/2025 at 18:20:53 Unlucky Liam, youll deffo get event 2 or 3, after event 3 is allocated, all season ticket holders/ members will have had an opportunity to go before next season starts. Mike Connolly 76 Posted 18/01/2025 at 18:22:12 Blessing in disguise Liam wait until the big kick off takes place hope fully we are in the EPL Paul Ferry 77 Posted 18/01/2025 at 18:30:26 It looks like Leicester and Saints want to go down Mike. Wolves and Ipswich have both picked up four points more than us over the last 6 games. A fair few thought that Ruud -'you don't know what you're doing' (today) - would be a good choice for us. Ruud lived next door to Denis Law for years. Brian Denton 78 Posted 18/01/2025 at 18:32:27 We play Leicester Feb 1st. They have lost their last SEVEN League games 😖Everton the sequence busters. Rob Halligan 79 Posted 18/01/2025 at 18:34:39 Never got selected from the ballot for the first test event at BMD. Dont think thats right, all those who have been to every away game should have been selected. In fact should get to go to all three test events! Paul Ferry 80 Posted 18/01/2025 at 18:36:00 Agree 100% Rob. Poor that. Paul Ferry 81 Posted 18/01/2025 at 18:36:53 I suspect that Hewey predicted that you were 'guaranteed' to be selected Rob. Rob Halligan 82 Posted 18/01/2025 at 18:38:14 He did Paul, thats when I knew I had no chance! 🤣🤣 Paul Ferry 83 Posted 18/01/2025 at 18:42:59 Seriously though, how much trouble is it to reserve 1000-1500 tickets for three games (156,000 seats) for the ever-present who would see it as a dead nice gesture. It's not as if they get much else. Was that visit to Finch Farm for the ever-present a few years ago a one-off Rob? Paul Ferry 84 Posted 18/01/2025 at 18:44:15 Great goal! 2-0 Rob Halligan 85 Posted 18/01/2025 at 18:45:10 It was mate. Was that about 4 years ago? Might have been longer. Paul Ferry 86 Posted 18/01/2025 at 18:47:20 That's a shame. It must have been at least four years ago. Why not every year? Rob Halligan 87 Posted 18/01/2025 at 18:48:27 What a cross from Digne for Tielemans to head home. Paul Ferry 88 Posted 18/01/2025 at 18:50:38 should be 2-2 Paul Ferry 89 Posted 18/01/2025 at 18:58:29 2-2. Ah feck, got rid of Watkins this week and need to stop picking 2 arse defenders/keeper. And Watkins was about to be subbed. Liam Mogan 90 Posted 18/01/2025 at 19:20:02 Did that actually hit havertz hand? It was hard to tell. Simon Dalzell 91 Posted 18/01/2025 at 19:20:38 Agreed Liam, looked like it hit his stomach for disallowed goal Edward Rogers 92 Posted 18/01/2025 at 19:28:41 Arsenal. Bed. S**t. as predicted. Jim Bennings 93 Posted 18/01/2025 at 19:29:54 Title over now anyway.In fairness Arsenal have never really looked like a side capable of winning 7 or 8 on the spin, which is what's going to be needed this season to oust the Shite.City have had a cataclysmic implosion to rival that of the Titan and nobody would have foreseen what's happened to them.Football at the top is in flux, Chelsea, Spurs, City, United all pissing into zipped up pants, just a shame we have yet again failed to step into the open door that clubs like Forest, Bournemouth, Brighton have. Add Your Comments In order to post a comment, you need to be logged in as a registered user of the site. » Log in now Or Sign up as a ToffeeWeb Member — it's free, takes just a few minutes and will allow you to post your comments on articles and Talking Points submissions across the site. How to get rid of these ads and support TW © ToffeeWeb