Season › 2024-25 › Opinion › Talking Points Will Armando Broja be a better striker than Calvert-Lewin? by David Cooper | 21/10/2024 39 Comments [Jump to last] I think most of us agree that Dominic Calvert-Lewin had a really good game against Ipswich if you forget about his failure to convert at least two one one-on-ones with Muric. If he had scored one, it would have given him an enormous confidence boost and Everton an even more comfortable win. This was not the first time that Dom’s ability to take relatively scorable chances has cost us in recent games. As I said earlier, apart from that, his play as a lone striker has been very good, giving us a focus of attack and an out-ball. But when does Sean Dyche say enough is enough, and think about replacing him? At the moment, Dyche doesn’t have to answer that question as we have no fit player to replace him. However, in maybe 4 weeks time, Armando Broja will be fit enough to give him an alternative and a real selection problem. It’s been quite a long time since we have seen Broja in action so I went and found his selected highlights to remind myself what he was like when fit and I was quite surprised. For a bustling and aggressive striker, he has very fast feet and exceptional dribbling skills. He also has a very good turn of speed. Article continues below video content When putting all these skills together, he comes into his own when one on one with a defender in a foot race. I can’t say what his hold-up skills are like if he is required to play the lone striker role trying to get on the end of Jordan Pickford’s long kicks. Would this cause Dyche to change tactics? From his highlight reel, it would be fair to say that Calvert-Lewin is much stronger in the air and at bringing down Pickford’s clearances. However, if we say the main job of a striker is to score goals, then in limited highlights, he does convert… but to me, he does not look like an out-and-out striker. Lukaku he is not! When fully fit, he did cause chaos to opposing defences due to speed, close control, and aggressive running. So maybe come December, after the next international break – but knowing our luck, he will play for Albania, score, get crocked, and miss another 2 months. Meaning either Dom will have got the contract he wants or he will be on his way. It’s easy to see why we have Broja on loan – as an injured player as a cover for Dom if he leaves – and why we were the only club to be patient enough to wait for him to get fit. A good piece of business by Kevin Thelwell. Until December, Dom has a few more games to find his goalscoring boots. If he does and stays, Sean Dyche has a nice problem. Or, if he leaves in January, we get maybe £20M and we have new Number 9. Either way, I think for once Everton have got things right. Unless of course Dom leaves and Broja is a dud! Return to Talking Points index : Add your Comments » Reader Comments (39) Note: the following content is not moderated or vetted by the site owners at the time of submission. Comments are the responsibility of the poster. Disclaimer () Alan J Thompson 1 Posted 22/10/2024 at 07:43:09 We should also be looking at the position if Calvert-Lewin leaves in January or on a free at season's end and Broja either doesn't recover, doesn't want to stay, or we can't meet Chelsea's valuation. I wouldn't worry about him being able to deal with Pickford's kicks as he'll probably get plenty of practice but it would probably mean either Beto or Chermiti next season as I can't see even the new owners coming up with the readies and staying within PSR parameters, and assuming we are still in the Premier League. However, having said that, the introduction of Ndiaye seems to have seen us get more players forward in support, or Ndiaye has allowed others more time and space which might allow for more goals from midfield or the luxury of a second striker. Robert Tressell 2 Posted 22/10/2024 at 20:19:25 It's a good question David. I think Broja has more natural talent than DCL but he's got a long way to go.A very speculative signing due to lousy form since injury and really terrible injury record.That said, quite an exciting signing too if we can get him fit. Mark Murphy 3 Posted 24/10/2024 at 08:46:07 I fecking hope so! Danny O'Neill 4 Posted 24/10/2024 at 09:49:53 We need to see more of him to make judgement.On Dominic, I feel for him. Like many Everton strikers of late, he's been isolated without much back up.Probably the only thing I would say, through observation, is that when he's on a one-on-one, he should lift the ball. He often kicks it low at the keeper. I appreciate you are always taught to keep it on target, but like I say, an observation.But his effort and commitment can't be questioned.Here's hoping both of them score on Saturday. Tony Abrahams 5 Posted 24/10/2024 at 10:16:37 Football has changed but Id love to see them playing up front together, just as long as it benefited our team. Barry Rathbone 6 Posted 24/10/2024 at 10:52:40 Dan 4,The great weakness of Calvert-Lewin is his lack of guile, wrong-footing players is beyond him in open play or in front of goal. Very athletic but the ball goes the way he's facing – chipping, lobbing, dropping the shoulder or passing the ball into the net are just not in his armoury. Goalies know what he's going to do before he does. Andy Crooks 7 Posted 24/10/2024 at 11:40:05 Surely, Barry, these skills can, at least to some extent, be coached and practised into his armoury? Ian Bennett 8 Posted 24/10/2024 at 12:14:51 I like Dom. I am sad that he will leave, but I recognise his faults.He's not got a great shot, and I think he lacks guile when through. He aims at the goal and usually hits the keeper. There's never any attempt to round the keeper, or shift the ball to improve the angle.I don't know what they do at Finch Farm, but this area of his game hasn't developed at all. And that includes being up against the England Number 1. Yes, he's been injured, but you can't tell me somebody couldn't have worked on that over the last 5 years.In the olden days, he would have benefited from playing with a small goal-scoring forward. But with one up top, the pressure is on him. Nigel Scowen 9 Posted 24/10/2024 at 12:16:02 I would agree with Barry here that he seems one dimensional in front of goal in one one-on-ones. In the air he's great; on the deck not so much.I would like sometimes as well to see him just put his damn laces through it and give the goalie no chance, aka Keane at the weekend, it just seems to me that the goalie always has a chance to react. Having said this, though, I do also think that, when that first one goes in, he will be away. Michael Kenrick 10 Posted 24/10/2024 at 12:28:13 Nigel, So you think "when that first one goes in, he will be away"?You mean like in the Bournemouth game? That was the first one to go in for him this season… but no more in that game, which we went on to lose.Or the next game 2 weeks later, when he also scored against Aston Villa... but then we went on to lose as he missed a whole load more chances. Which is all he's done since. I'll believe it when I see it. Eddie Dunn 11 Posted 24/10/2024 at 12:38:42 Dominic has many attributes but he simply lacks that clinical finish or the quick feet to put the goalie on his arse, and round him.Of course he can still improve his skillset but I can't see him hitting 15-20 goals a season. Derek Knox 12 Posted 24/10/2024 at 12:53:18 As much as we all like Dominic, and to a degree, make excuses for him failing so many times on a one-on-one situation, I feel we have to admit he just doesn't have that ability. I think it would have shown by now, and with him not committing to a new contract, we have to start pinning our hopes elsewhere. He is brilliant at holding the ball up, and equally so in his heading ability, but to be a successful and prolific striker, he should have all the elements. As Danny says, we haven't seen much of Broja, so will have to reserve judgement. It may hopefully be a case of horses for courses. He didn't pull up too many trees at either Fulham or Southampton while on loan. Maybe, just maybe, Everton will be his comfort zone and start producing regularly and avoiding too many injuries. Robert Tressell 13 Posted 24/10/2024 at 12:55:29 I expect that the coaching team are working quite extensively on things like Calvert-Lewin's poor technique on one one-on-ones, Gueye's passing, Doucoure's ability to trap a bag of cement etc. Ultimately, we've got a very limited set of players. They can all improve a bit, but not fundamentally – they are just not good enough.The same is true of other clubs like us with mostly bottom-half standard players.With Calvert-Lewin, the important thing is to play to his strengths, not his weaknesses. That means quality crosses into the box. Unfortunately, our flanks are so weak that this isn't happening. Ancelotti did a good job with Calvert-Lewin; his main trick was to play him in a much better side than we currently have.Nevertheless, for a really good side, Calvert-Lewin would be an option but not the main striker. And that's the position we need to get to. How do you find yourself a goalscorer? there are essentially 3 routes:1. Pay a lot of money. The idea that £20M might be enough is fanciful. The £28M we paid for Lukaku not so long ago would be more like £70M (+) now. Even then ,it is hit and miss, with £85M Nunez and £70M Hojlund getting 11 and 10 league goals each last season (Calvert-Lewin got 7 in a much, much worse side).2. Get lucky with a hidden gem. I mean yes, possibly, but who? Amongst the people who scored more than 10 goals last season, only Hwang, Mateta and Wissa fall into this category. And they may not necessarily repeat their exploits again.3. Develop someone over a period of seasons. You could include the likes of Mateta, Wissa again here and also Solanke. There's an element of teams playing to their strengths too, which optimises their output. See also Chris Wood.There is also a 4th category that scores goals being "the flash in the pan". These must be avoided at all costs. All those posters saying we should replace Calvert-Lewin with the "obviously much better" Adebayo should note that he's got 1 goal in 11 games for struggling Luton this season in the Championship.Hopefully the likes of Broja and Chermiti can fall into the category of players we can develop. But it's unlikely either would grab more than 10 goals over a full season at the moment. Broja hasn't managed that many since he was about 18 or 19, playing for Vitesse on loan in the Eredivisie. Paul Hewitt 14 Posted 24/10/2024 at 13:24:34 Calvert-Lewin is a striker who doesn't score goals. He may be good at other things but putting the ball in the net isn't one of them. The fact he never got a move in the summer says it all. He's a 6-to-8-goals-a-season striker. You can buy them from the Championship. Eric Myles 15 Posted 24/10/2024 at 13:45:59 Robert #13,"But it's unlikely either would grab more than 10 goals over a full season at the moment."Either one of them would be our top scorer with only 10 goals in a season.We could only dream of having two that score 10 each! That's more than our top two goalscorers last season. Barry Rathbone 16 Posted 24/10/2024 at 14:23:20 Andy @7,You can't coach the type of skill that wrong foots opponents it is a street, playground and park development and if not there by 11 years old it isn't coming.Look at the USA, nobody does coaching like the Yanks and they can produce goalies and decent athletes by the dozen… but ball players? Hardly any. What could be improved with practice is the effectiveness of his straight-line striking. Get Ian Rush in to practice with. He had virtually nothing as a footballer bar 2 things – speed and how he struck the ball – cleanly, on target and most importantly low.He was an Evertonian before being snaffled by the dark side; he might be delighted. Robert Tressell 17 Posted 24/10/2024 at 14:33:56 Eric # 15, taking the point in a way I wasn't really expecting. Broja is possibly a 8 + goal a season striker if fit. Chermiti no one knows. He probably needs a loan to find out. I'm not suggesting we'd get 20 goals out of them by any stretch.I also think people are massively underestimating the impact on the striker of playing in such a poor side. I suspect Haaland would struggle to get more than about 18 or so for us over a full league season. Mark Murphy 18 Posted 24/10/2024 at 15:57:40 Barry, I hope youve got a big tin hat!!🫣 Raymond Fox 19 Posted 24/10/2024 at 16:48:52 For forwards and midfielders less so for defenders I'd say its 85 to 90% natural ability and 10% or so coaching that define players.You can coach all you want but, if the player is lacking sufficient athletic ability and intelligence, you are wasting your time.On the other hand maybe the above is too black and white because in fact a footballer can shine through sheer hard work and stamina – even though he isn't the most skilful. Barry Rathbone 20 Posted 24/10/2024 at 16:53:34 Mark @18I take no chances on here my tin hat has been gorilla glued to my skull for a while. Just awaiting the nuclear shelter construction to begin then my new article "Was Bill Kenwright Mistreated?" might get an airing.But I might chicken out and go for something a little less risky like buying a timeshare in Beirut Martin Mason 21 Posted 24/10/2024 at 17:12:16 I believe that Calvert-Lewin is a very graceful and skilful player but hard-working too and who struggles to score in a poor side but can score well with good service. For me, losing him would not be good but I will trust the Everton staff to get it right. Mark Murphy 22 Posted 24/10/2024 at 17:51:44 “My new article "Was Bill Kenwright Mistreated?" might get an airing.” He's joking, Martin! Don't get sucked in.I really really really hope Calvert-Lewin starts scoring soon, for his sake as well as ours. He wants £130k a week apparently. Well he won't get that off us, or anyone else for that matter, if he doesn't.Looking forward to my weekend back home, especially the Saturday evening but! I hope the Saturday night and Sunday morning find me in a celebratory mood! Mike Gaynes 23 Posted 24/10/2024 at 18:12:05 Has anybody here actually seen Broja play?That's the problem... nobody knows what he really has.He built a quick reputation as a teenage superstar in Holland four years ago, showed a little bit of something for Saints, and then... pfft. Couldn't stay in anybody's 11, couldn't stay healthy.He may be back on the pitch by December, but we likely won't have any idea for several months after that whether he is a contributor or just a distant wish. The good news is that by the time his loan is up, we'll have the money to buy him if we want him. Martin Mason 24 Posted 24/10/2024 at 19:11:38 I'm sorry, if the £130k per week is correct, then cost-benefit would probably dictate he go. It's okay, Mark I won't get sucked in. Bill Kenwright is a separate subject and not one I'll get involved in other than in general terms. Mark Murphy 25 Posted 24/10/2024 at 19:23:29 Mike, we've been chasing Broja since his Southampton days when he was flavour of the month. Then he had a couple of bad injuries. I knew we were still interested so I watched him closely for Albania in the Euros when he was being talked about as “in the shop window”.Despite Albania playing good stuff and winning lots of fans, Broja was disappointing. Although it would appear that he wasn't fully fit. Let's just hope he gets his Southampton mojo back. Mark Murphy 26 Posted 24/10/2024 at 20:11:32 Ok Martin - as youve been away for a while Ill bring you up to speed:Michael Keane is no longer a pariah but is in fact the answer to our prayers, especially when Dyche realised what all of us on TW have always known, that he is in fact a striker.Similarly Ashley Young is now a popular favourite on here having not been sent off for several games and is now revered almost as much as his dad, Alex.James Tarkowski is now the boo boy and the living anti christ because he hasnt dropped himself and the crowd booed the previous two rather than him.Kenwright died while you were away so nobody talks about him anymore. Much.Danny O, his last remaining acolyte, still goes the game and is, in fact, meeting Derek Foxy Knox on Saturday for a good natured chuckle about their shared memories with luvvy Bill in the Boys pen.Dwight McNeil is, at the moment, a fans favourite as Dyche finally listened to us and plays him at number 10.Calvert Lewin is either brilliant or shite, but everyone agrees he needs to put those one on ones away sharpish or Chermiti, who is apparantly a prospect based on, I dunno really, but he is, will take his place if he is ever fit.Sean Dyche is a dinosaur/genius/stubborn fool/boiled egg - mainly depending on the latest results but everyone seems to agree hes not the one to take us on in BMD.BMD is nearly finished.Dont mention Graeme Sharp. Just dont!Ian Rush is being widely tipped by at least one on here as Evertons next striking coach. Theres some new bloke with letters after his name who writes some weird stuff that no-one quite understands but still get extremely agitated about.Oh, that reminds me.Paul Ferry has mellowed beyond all recognition hardly posting at all during the day. Anyway, just do what I do, mate, and agree with everyone.Except Dave Cashen. Hes mental!UTFT Brendan McLaughlin 27 Posted 24/10/2024 at 20:22:59 Great to see you posting again, Martin. Raymond Fox 28 Posted 24/10/2024 at 20:23:41 I didn't know you were a comedian, Mark, well funny. Liam Mogan 29 Posted 24/10/2024 at 20:44:30 Very droll Mark. Grade A+Nearly as funny as 'pets getting murdered with giant fly swatters' Brendan McLaughlin 30 Posted 24/10/2024 at 20:59:36 Mark #26Funny, funny, funny... loved it.Liam #29Or "pets being eaten by Haitians" but at least John W. isn't running for President...yet. Andy Crooks 31 Posted 24/10/2024 at 21:17:51 Good to see Martin Mason back. However, Martin, your role on this site was never to be the voice of reason. Ease yourself back in and get back to work properly!! Martin Mason 32 Posted 24/10/2024 at 21:37:11 Thanks Mark, Andy and Brendan. I've really thought about it over the last year or so and I realise now that being an Evertonian is not something that you can put down. We are a community for all that implies. I'm so sorry to see the personal conflicts but realise that I have done it too. Just remember that we're great fans, a great community based around a great Club. I believe that we are going to be rewarded by this mongrel squad and mongrel manager against all odds. Mark Murphy 33 Posted 24/10/2024 at 21:50:13 Define “rewarded”, Martin? Martin Mason 34 Posted 24/10/2024 at 22:28:18 Mark, I mean being pleased to watch them rather than frustrated. Tony McNulty 35 Posted 24/10/2024 at 22:38:38 Round of applause there, Mark.You should become a regular feature: every month distilling the Machiavellian byways and highways of the current TW paradigm. Andy Crooks 36 Posted 25/10/2024 at 10:47:27 Barry @ 16, some interesting points. I think the truly great strikers (and I count Rush as one) are better without time.Andy Cole is an example, on instinct he stuck a half-chance in the net. With time to think, it was in the back row of the stand.Calvert-Lewin misses chances when he has options. On reflection, I think that coaching might actually make him think even more.I never thought that goal-scoring was a gift. I'm thinking I might be wrong. David Cooper 37 Posted 25/10/2024 at 16:58:59 Calvert-Lewin's best period scoring goals was under Don Carlo Ancelotti who supposedly told him to concentrate on getting on the end of balls in the 6-yard box. We must have had some players who were able to find him there! Richarlison was playing at the time and either helped Dom to step up his game or took the pressure off him to be scoring goals. Maybe Ndiaye will be a poor man's Richarlison! Calvert-Lewin's Achilles Heel seems to be when he is running in on goal from outside the box and fails to beat the keeper. Is this a case of him being an instinctive finisher rather than being able to convert chances when given time? So, no matter how many goals he scores at Finch Farm, he doesn't have the confidence to do it in a game. Jim Bennings 38 Posted 29/10/2024 at 07:08:01 At some point, we need to be moving away from this total undying commitment as a club to Dominic Calvert-Lewin.He's not going to be here next season, he may not even be here at the end of January, although I'll say it again, I don't see a massive line of clubs waiting in the wings.I think we need to accept it and move on, remove the option of the contract now and let it play out as it should; for both parties now, a move is probably for the best.He's been a fairly decent player since he joined us but at the same time I don't think I've ever seen a centre-forward look so awkward with the ball at his feet, you can see he was actually coached as a kid to be a central midfielder.He's never ever struck me as a cold-blooded finisher even when we had Carlo here, it was his greatest purple patch but most of his goals were fox in the box, which both he and us have never been able to replicate a style to rediscover.In hindsight, during that summer of 2021, it was a shame that someone didn't come in with a really big offer for him; I believe crazy fees were being touted at one time.But it is what it is, we'll probably lose him for nothing now.As for Broja, who knows? Again, it's all about how fit can he stay, or even will he ever even get fit?I do think at some stage I would like to see Everton move away from the old school Big Number 9 way of playing now. We are in 2024 and very few clubs are still stuck so rigid in this way. Ernie Baywood 39 Posted 29/10/2024 at 07:29:35 David, I'd say he's an instinctive finisher in the sense that he completely lacks natural finishing ability. The more time he has, the more time he has to doubt his technique. I do rate him though. Not many around can do what he does. Even fewer would put up with it – and I don't blame him at all for wanting away given the crap role he's been played in.I've seen him with confidence and he's not a terrible finisher, plus he's always a handful for defenders. Without confidence, he's just a handful. I don't think the role of the club and the management can be understated. He's a striker in a team that doesn't provide support to that role. 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