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Sean Dyche chats to Juliette Ferrington about life at Everton, how he deals with 'noise' around the club, advice from Sven-Goran Eriksson, and Oasis tickets on Sky Sports' new "One on One" podcast.

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Peter Moore
1 Posted 09/10/2024 at 18:19:43
A light piece that shows the manager continues to cope well with the difficult hand he has been dealt. He is of course well paid in accordance with 'fair' (not very, compared to the angst thrust upon the fanbase) market value.

He seems, rightly in my view, calm and assured. Having steered the ship through metaphorical rough seas before, he knows he can do so again. The TFG takeover promises better, more stable times ahead.

Personally, I hope Dan with the trigger, holds fire and sees what Dyche can achieve with proper backing, for the first time in his managerial career.

Having saved us from the Lampard Abys, he deserves that chance. In life though, I am sure he is acutely aware, what is deserved does always materialise. Good luck to him and us. UTFT. COYB. NSNO!

John Raftery
2 Posted 09/10/2024 at 21:55:28
Well said Peter.
Andy Crooks
3 Posted 09/10/2024 at 22:14:49
Good post, Pete!
Barry Rathbone
4 Posted 09/10/2024 at 22:48:24
I'd like Dyche to get a chance but the loud kids have been shouting for a while and, unless a miracle happens, results will remain mixed and they will keep at him till he's gone — just like the previous incumbents.

The magnitude of change Dyche needs just doesn't seem possible with this squad. He's fish — dead fish.

Sam Hoare
5 Posted 09/10/2024 at 23:10:50
I saw Dyche as a good appointment and thought he'd done well till recently.

This season, with a few more attacking options I thought we might see a little evolution, a hint of style to go with pragmatism. But if anything we've been worse. Injuries have contributed to that of course but I do think there have been some puzzling selections and substitutions.

I'm hoping he can turn it round but you'd imagine he'd have to do so significantly to win over TFG. Long term, it's hard to see the new owners not fancying someone able to deliver slightly better football.

Brendan McLaughlin
6 Posted 09/10/2024 at 23:11:12
I think Dyche will survive and perhaps even prosper.

Avoiding relegation has been the low survival bar for Everton managers for quite a few years now. Most didn't inspire confidence in that respect but I'm optimistic about Sean.

He may even have us "punching above our weight" in the next couple of seasons.

Jamie Lenard
7 Posted 09/10/2024 at 00:24:12
Is he willing to take a haircut on his salary? I can't see TFG paying him £5M a year seeing that the likes of Iraola is on £1M.

If the rumour that a super group of executives are being assembled to run the show has legs, then I'm sure they'll be on the hunt for the next up-and-coming hot-shot coach who will work for a lot less to get himself established.

We always talk about getting rid of the dead-weight players on £100k off the payroll… maybe that should include the coaching staff also.

Mike Gaynes
8 Posted 10/10/2024 at 01:55:44
Hey, Jamie, hope all's well on the North Side. Good to see you post.

But I'm convinced Friedkin will do as Peter speculates and hold fire, at least until summer. Unless it's a crisis situation, from a business perspective it would make zero sense to change managers midseason, even before the first window. And Dyche's contract ends in June anyway, so as long as he looks like keeping us up, there's no reason to pull the trigger until then.

But beyond that... with no contract... I would consider his survival very doubtful. The new management team will want to make a splash in the new stadium, and Sean is not a splashy kinda guy.

Paul Ferry
9 Posted 10/10/2024 at 04:00:23
Peter Moore:1: "the difficult hand he has been dealt".

I really have no time with this sort of view. It's misleading and it's misconceived.

Dyche knew exactly what he was getting himself into when he signed on the dotted line. He keeps reminding us of this in his pressers after we lose. He was going back four years in his last post-defeat one.

Dyche is not some sort of affable fella who wandered unknowingly into a storm deceived by the suits on the other side of the table. I imagine being out of work for a while with a voice not exactly designed for punditry that he was absolutely made up to be approached by the club. Made up. Over the moon.

£5 million. I'll have some of that. Did you say that would be my annual salary? Fuck me. Did you really say £5 million?); £3.5 million (or was it £3 million) to keep the club up over the next 14 weeks. Where do I sign? Anyone got a pen? Need to call Woansey and Stonesey. Fuck me, £5 million and that pretty penny Burnley settlement that I squeezed out of them. "I'm in the money". £3.5 million. That's £8.5 mill in total for year one. Wife, make a list. That's north of £700K a month. We can upgrade to stainless steel appliances.

Dyche is no fecking unwitting hero for taking on this job. He knew exactly what he was doing, and what he was getting himself into, and what he and her indoors could do with £8.5 million.

Paul Ferry
10 Posted 10/10/2024 at 05:30:05
Mike (8),

I don't think that that Jamie is your Yank Jamie mate.

Hope you and also yours are thriving.

Alan J Thompson
11 Posted 10/10/2024 at 06:25:32
Peter (#1);

Given the continued disorganized performances of our midfield, shots into the crowd, and other poor finishing, I doubt Dyche's coaching abilities. If he is given a large transfer kitty, would he necessarily agree with DoF Thelwell on his preferences?

And, should performances not improve and we continue with the "kick it up their end and see if you can get it back" tactics, should he then be moved on and would we have to provide any new manager with another large transfer kitty?

Now where have we heard this before?

If new club management haven't already got somebody lined up, then I would think that the official line will be that the position will be assessed at season's end – which might pass as the dreaded vote of confidence – or there will be silence on the matter until they have properly researched the location of local taxi ranks.

Nigel Scowen
12 Posted 10/10/2024 at 06:30:25
Paul and Jamie,

Exactly, I think people sometimes forget how much ‘poor' Dyche is earning. He's the Ringo Starr of football management — what is he the fifth or sixth best-paid Premier League manager?!?

‘Past glories’ count for nothing for me; this is Everton and expectations are current and this squad is much better than the rollercoaster we have experienced again this season.

Frankly, I'm getting bored about hearing how well he has done in the past and his constant moaning about how difficult the job is; Jamie's comparison with what Iraola is earning is very telling.

I will be amazed if Dyche is leading Everton out at the new stadium.

Danny O'Neill
13 Posted 10/10/2024 at 06:49:42
All about opinions.

He has kept the players focussed with the dramatics going on around the club. And, yes, he will have known what he was walking into

Unless it goes pear-shaped, he should see his contract out until the end of the season.

Robert Tressell
14 Posted 10/10/2024 at 07:24:10
What does a big transfer kitty look like these days?

Net spend of £50m, £100m or (as per Brighton this summer) £200m +

Personally I'd be surprised if we go beyond the £50m mark.
These days that buys you a Max Kilman. It doesn't suddenly turn us into contenders. I would have thought £300m + for top 8 credentials and £500m + to have any chance of the top 6.

Friedkin will be thinking along these lines too I expect and assessing the manager accordingly. He may well rate Dyche a lot higher than many on here do.

Stu Gre
15 Posted 10/10/2024 at 07:51:15
Well said, Paul #9.

Imo, the only reason Dyche will keep his job, if he does, will be because he's out of contract at the end of the season and that'll save money in a PSR world.

Alan McGuffog
16 Posted 10/10/2024 at 08:04:19
Alan, you may well be correct in your view of Dyche's coaching abilities.

I never amounted to much in my playing career but I was coached, when shooting, to keep my body and head over the ball and to hit it hard and low. Thing is, it was my aul fella coaching me when I was 8!

If so-called top professional players aren't able to do this… then God help us!

David Bromwell
17 Posted 10/10/2024 at 08:24:56
The last manager who really earned his money at Everton was Moyes. All those who have followed have done extremely well financially, and have managed to find well-paid jobs for their relations and mates.

So the hash reality is that, if he wants to remain as Everton Manager, Mr Dyche will have to up his game. For certain, Premie League survival will be his first priority, but please, please can we see some sort of vision for the future?

These days, the team provides entertainment of some sort but it's certainly not Premier League football and I doubt serious new owners would be impressed.

Dyche has proven he knows how to survive; he now needs to show he knows how to play football. If he can do both, he deserves another contract, albeit on less generous terms.

Dave Cashen
18 Posted 10/10/2024 at 08:50:03
The guy makes the clear distinction between coaching and managing. He says he is definitely managing.

Sounds to me like he has more to do off the pitch than on it. I guess that's what happens when your boss takes the day off. Every day.

Robert Tressell
19 Posted 10/10/2024 at 09:00:20
Alan #16, is this a failing of Dyche's coaching or a failing of youth coaching?

Dyche could certainly be organising a better structured attack - and other things like more imaginative set pieces. But it's a tall order to coach improved basic skills into experienced players like Gueye (who has always been more of an athlete than a footballer).

Alan McGuffog
20 Posted 10/10/2024 at 09:11:09
Exactly, Robert.

Of course quality coaching is vital but the basic of kicking the bloody thing in a straight line (okay, I enjoy a spin or swerve put on a ball, you know what I mean!) should not need to be coached. One should assume every professional player has this attribute.

Robert Tressell
21 Posted 10/10/2024 at 09:26:21
Sadly, Alan, I think the squad is full of very limited players.

It's a treat to see Ndiaye – but that level of ability should be the minimum not the exception.

Dave Abrahams
22 Posted 10/10/2024 at 09:58:52
Alan (20), I think like you, every professional footballer, after many years of coaching and training, should have at the bare minimum all the basics of football, control of the ball, passing long and short balls, kicking the ball correctly, preferably with both feet.

I ma ybe asking too much there but watching the football being played today, not just by Everton, the amount of basic mistakes in all these departments is staggering. Just look at last Saturday's game between Everton and Newcastle – it was amazing how many times the ball was lost by both teams with very poor basic faults.

Growing up just playing street football, quite a lot of us had all these basic qualities including good tackling which isn't really needed these days because it's not bleedin' allowed!

Alan J Thompson
23 Posted 10/10/2024 at 10:49:45
If all these footballers know, or should know, how to do these things, then why are there two coaches to assist the manager, instill our complicated tactics and playing systems?

Plus goalkeeping and set-piece coaches — or is he the same bloke given the number of free-kicks Pickford takes?

Stu Darlington
24 Posted 10/10/2024 at 11:08:03
I think we'll probably finish mid-tableish. If we do, Dyche will probably survive to see his contract out, but I can't see it being renewed next season.

If we are in or around the relegation zone in December, he may be sacked then, to give a new manager enough games to turn things around, because we must stay in the Premier League this season.

So the powers that be (whoever they are?) need to be drawing up a realistic list of possible managerial candidates for next season now.

Bearing in mind that the squad they inherit is not going to be massively different in quality than this season, as I believe our transfer budget is not going to be as high as some people think.

Hopefully, the new manager will be able to get the best out of them more consistently than Dyche has done this season.

James Flynn
25 Posted 10/10/2024 at 22:55:00
If ownership approval is completed in December, I'll be disappointed if we come out of the January Window with Dyche still the manager. Or even entering the new year.

Retain him? For what? He's an uninspiring manager to begin with. So leave him, 4-5 more months, a lame-duck manager of a team that's weak enough as it is?

Not for me. Dyche's got to go.

Brendan McLaughlin
26 Posted 10/10/2024 at 23:02:31
James #25

You're going to be disappointed.

Dale Self
27 Posted 11/10/2024 at 00:26:54
Duplicate, sorry, got a little excited there.
Dale Self
28 Posted 11/10/2024 at 00:26:54
I am beginning to like the fact that Dyche cares fuck all about the loud kids. Good for him. He knew Moshiri 's position and obtained what is deserved given the preserved value of the club.

Friedkin is a businessman of considerable acumen. He will likely look around at the Glassners and Lopeteguiis of the league that get axed and think carefully about replacements. Anything close to 10th place and the historical net spend becomes the key consideration.

Dyche is actually well suited for a transfer model which Friedkin is currently interested in. Dyche has shown uncanny ability to keep defence stable while the deadwood and transfer value players are dealt. As Thelwell continues his growth, it is easy to see Dyche getting some creative forwards and Thelwell selling for decent value those who catch the eyes of other DoF's. Continual climbing up the table will be second to building up resources to expand the squad.

Dyche may not be continental pedigree but he damn sure knows how to build a foundation. Creative types don't need a manager over coaching the final third. That is where the reins are taken off and players with genius are given the chance to express themselves.

Dyche isn't an antiquated football figure at all. That is just the whisper campaign from the loud kids.

Derek Thomas
29 Posted 11/10/2024 at 00:53:18
James @ 25; I was going to side with Brenden @ 26; but on reflection your 'Lame Duck' phrase changed my mind, especially if we go on a run of poor results (not a totally unheard of phenomenon) either side of the new year.

“If it were done when ‘tis done, then ‘twere well it were done quickly.”

If we're (still) jogging along at our present rate of 1point...or even 1.1 point per game, then the pressure is already on.

Any 'vote of confidence' will double it.

Just when in December do TFG pick the keys up?

Kendall always reckoned that early to mid December was the 'optimum' time to replace a manager, this gives them time to assess the squad first hand and to:

1) work up a bit of momentum / team spirit / fan good will with a cup run (haha)

2) and if possible work the window.

I can't believe that TFG haven't at this point...given we were rock bottom with Zero pts. when they went 'All In'...had some internal discussions on the subject.

So back to The Scottish Play we go...

“If it were done when ‘tis done, then ‘twere well it were done quickly.”

Who though?

Jerome Shields
30 Posted 11/10/2024 at 17:23:18
I think that Dyche with last till the end of his contract in June. From memory, there are 9 players contracts finishing in June, 4 of them so-called senior players. So keeping Dyche beyond that will need monetary backing.

His £5M salary and looking for an increase could prove a problem for Dyche, when you look who could be available at that money.

Also, by then the Friedkins will have a review of operations at Everton in front of them and will have definite views on who they need to take Everton forward and affect necessary changes.

I expect changes in staff, rather than new systems, since I believe the remnants of the School of Science which have been the basis of Everton's survival may fit in with the Friedkins' plans and mission statement: to inspire best-in-class experiences that go beyond the ordinary.

Justin Doone
31 Posted 11/10/2024 at 23:18:49
I don't understand why we would ever offer an out-of-work, mid-table (I'm being kind) track record manager a contract worth more than £2M a season???

I can't believe he was on more than £1M at Burnley, who had sacked him several months previously.

However, he is a sane, keep-it-simple, down-to-earth manager – which is what we need and I'm confident he will see out the season.

Happy to give him a 1-year extension with a further 12 months on the basis we finish in the top half.

By that point, everyone should be satisfied we are a stable Premier League team, settled into our new home. But we wish to be a proper football club with ambitions of European football and a more adventurous attacking style to suit.

Welcome, Arteta!

Peter Gorman
32 Posted 12/10/2024 at 00:49:21
"Dyche has shown uncanny ability to keep defence stable"

Stable? Only Southampton and Wolves have a worse defence than us this season. Truly uncanny.

Steve Brown
33 Posted 12/10/2024 at 03:16:22
It has been a tough watch under Dyche, but what's new?

Since Koeman's second season, we have been delivered functional football by Allardyce, Ancelotti (towards the end), Benitez, Lampard and now Dyche. In fact, the only two periods I can remember being excited watching us were Roberto's first season and the first 3 months of the 2020-21 season under Carlo. Silva had his moments, but not many.

We should also be fair about the context in which Dyche has done his job:

1) The owner left the building in 2020 and stopped funding squad improvements;
2) The board went into exile in January 2023 after Headlockgate;
3) We were hit with two PSR points deductions;
4) Our auditors said in March 2024 that there was uncertainty about our ability to operate as a going concern if we were relegated;
5) We have generated £100 million in net profit from player sales since Dyche took over; and
6) We have had five failed takeover bid .

Which other manager has faced circumstances like this and managed to earn a points total that would have put us in 12th place? Name one and I'll be impressed.

Did we really expect Dyche to navigate his way through Items 1-6 and deliver the joga bonito as well?

He has frustrated me a lot this season with some of his decision-making, selections and game management. But, I am still thankful he took over the manager job 18 months ago. If he leaves next June, then build him a statue as he is one of the main reasons the club has not been relegated and gone into administration.

Bob Parrington
34 Posted 12/10/2024 at 11:19:43
Frankly, I disagree with those who say we have a poor squad of players. Okay, we might have a depth problem, which does not help in times of injury. Currently, we have a problem in defence, I agree. But, bringing back Branthwaite will help significantly in that respect.

We now have a good selection of players with drive and inventive skills in midfield and up front, to take on just about any team in the Premier League. So let's get behind them and win a clear number of games on the trot.

Jimmy Carr
35 Posted 13/10/2024 at 11:02:43
Why complain about Dyche's salary like it's his fault? Everton agreed to pay it, end of story. What's it got to do with anything? Fake news.

Here's another comparison with Iraola:- Which one of Dyche and Iraola has a demonstrable track record of keeping a low-spending football club in the Premier League year after year? Clue: it isn't Iraola.

I personally don't give a shit about Dyche's salary or comparisons with other managers. Football has too much money in it, we all know that. They're all on ridiculous salaries.

The only thing that matters is whether Dyche can keep us in the Premier League this season. If that looks under significant threat, then a change is required; if not, leave well alone until the season is over.

The rest, as the man himself would say, is just noise.


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