Everton's PSR nightmare casts a long shadow

"And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?"

"Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?"

"Thou hypocrite, first cast out the (city & chelsea shaped) beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.

You might (not!) want to have a gander at Premier League Rule W.51.5, which reads:

‘The Commission may order the Respondent to pay compensation unlimited in amount to any Person or to any Club.'

Do you think they would accept Dyche and a bag of crisps instead?

So why are we penalised for their failure?

We all know nothing will happen to Man City – and Chelsea have already got away with it.

Whatever happened to sportmanship and fair play?

We have cheats on the pitch, cheats running clubs, cheats coaching clubs and cheats officiating the games.

Who knows where it will all end???

Looks like I was right.

Looks like the P&S Rules process is going to continue. The 2023-24 season was not that hot for Everton either.

Hope The Friedkin Group have insisted on an indemnity from Moshiri to cover the financial fallout of the P&S Rule compensation. They will probably have to take a points deduction on the chin.

Regarding stadium interest payments, Everton withdrew their appeal on the last decision. Does that not mean that they have accepted the previous decisions and their outcome?

I can"t see Everton's legal advisors allowing such a grievance to carry over.

Count us lucky that The Friedkin Group turned up. I have a hunch that the Premier League are happy as well. So hopefully The Friedkin Group will be looked favourably upon, like the new owners of Chelsea.

I would like to see the takeover in the bag.

Ddn't the Club only withdraw its appeal on the second points deduction, the interest payments being a hangover from the first case we answered but taken out of consideration as it would have delayed any sentencing?

Fight them all for every penny, threaten them, do a Man City and take the Premier League to court.

Enough of this... I hope the TFG get the biggest, nastiest, threatening lawyers the US have.

I hope the Sly Six get there Super League, the Premier League then goes bust. And the remaining teams form their own league, and we can just concentrate on football.

A team that sells out its ticket allocations both at home and away, week-in & week-out – but no! Not to mention massively regenerating an area that has needed a cash injection for several decades now!

Yes, I know how ludicrous that is in reality!

Jay Harris - 11 - Agree 100% mate, the cheating, favouritism and the way footballers behave trying to get a fellow professional sent off is absolutely lamentable and has made me turn off the game almost completely, only ever watching Everton unless I have a friend around who wants to put another match on. The commentators hardly ever question it (unless they have a bias against a player), in fact, they seem to endorse it!

I get angry at Everton players cheating and it embarrasses me, to be honest, and we have had a few of them in recent times.

The acting and cheating – it riles me a lot and it is completely against the ethos of the game in my opinion; a game that has turned into some Monty Pythonesque parody of itself! Kids now think it is okay to cheat and act like brats because that is what their oh-so-lauded idols do! That does spill into every day life.

Arrggghhhh — that feels better!

Evertonians are nothing if not passionate. Power to the people!

Put it down to money owed by the previous owners and see if they let it slide, like they did for Man Utd.

And surely these clubs would have to put a case together and follow it through in a court of law? Not that I'm a legal expert. What are they claiming and what is the charge?

They didn't win enough games and earn enough points.

With the Government's regulatory organisation, surely they would monitor and decide, rather that leave it to the fat cats at Paddington, slapping themselves on the back and making it up as they go along.

A fine maybe, but I doubt we'll be docked more points.

Regardless of this circus, I just want 6 points from the next two games and Friedkin to get his takeover done and dusted before Christmas. Then we can look forwards, not backwards.

The accounts for 22-23 had to be submitted by last December so, if after 10 months to review, to put it into VAR speak, we can not have committed a “Clear and Obvious” breach, so should not be penalised.

I really don't understand what they're trying to achieve.

Uncle Friedkin will sort it.

I'd strongly rebuff any such claims based on the Man City precedent of ‘Get stuffed and do one'. In the meantime, we are doing a pretty good job of making Burnley's dreams come true, and that's the current danger.

I know they got off on a technicality but all the same they appear to have shut up too.

It likely would have spurred the team on to get better results (we can point directly to what happened to results after the first deduction).

There appears a 2 tier league within the league they supposedly represent. The sooner the TFG take us over and sort these dickheads out, the better.

We've been “Mr Nice Guy” under The World's Greatest Evertonian for far too long... Now it's time to do a Man City.

We have been battered with sporting disadvantage for 3 years.

Chelsea severed all ties with Abramovich; until we see the back of Moshiri, there is still a lingering smell.

It's getting ridiculous now – we are even embroiled in the David Coote case now according to Paddy Power

Link

A compensation case brought by a former Premier League club against Everton remains live. However, it could take a year to reach a conclusion.

The report (Times) also states that the same commission that imposed a 10-point deduction on Everton initially is also deciding on the compensation for any claims for financial damages associated with it by aggrieved clubs. The commission's chairman, David Phillips KC, had previously stated: “I am satisfied that the applicant clubs have potential claims for compensation.”

Everton challenged that position at the time by stating that their appeal, and subsequent reduction in the points deduction, was handled by a different commission.

Quite how much, if any, compensation Burnley would be entitled to remains rooted in legal arguments between the two clubs and could take some time to fathom out given that there has been no precedent in the Premier League.

Everton compensation case could take a year to reach outcome

The governance so-called of the Premier League is the sewage pipe overflow. Stinks the Premier League to a lingering death.

Others were punished and I'm not making excuses for how the club has been run since, but we suffered more in terms of a lost opportunity for something we didn't do, when we were on the brink of something special.

It's no light-hearted matter: 39 people lost their lives.

We've had to put up with the 'bitter blues' for decades. Well, with the new stadium and The Friedkin Group on the horizon, I'm seeing jealousy. Bitter Reds??!! Our day is coming.

Days of destiny... Hopefully Everton's new era kicks in this side of Christmas and provides a welcome tonic for all Evertonians!

Santo Domingo! Viva Everton! UTFTs!

I often wonder if this club is cursed. We win the league in both seasons as World Wars start. We win the league and one of the best players is banned for life for alleged betting offences. We win the league and are banned from Europe for no fault of our own. All of these things (and the follow on effects) had a massive impact on us building real dynasties.

As much as I love Goodison, and will be heartbroken to leave, I'm praying our luck changes at BMD and we can catch a break or two.

I'm wearing my Sons of St Domingo 1878 top tonight!!!

And that made me think that our trophies from the 1980s were as old in the 2000s as our trophies from the 2000s are today… Oh wait!….. David fucken Moyes was the best times of my Everton life. Granted Martinez's first season was the best football I've ever seen us play.

This is wank. Bring me Jose.

Yes, the withdrawal was on the second decision. But I thought with a high-powered legal team involved, a line would be drawn on all issues. I was not aware that the issue regarding stadium interest was allowed to hangover still. It seems incredibly messy.

I am surprised (though I knew it was possible under the rules) that compensation is still on the agenda – though only for one club.

To have a high-powered legal team involved and have loose ends ongoing seems incredibly slack.

So does that mean that previous decisions could be revisited? Do the points that have been deducted not reflect the Premier League's stance on stadium interest payments?

Messy.

Just read that a commission is to be held before the end of the year is to investigate stadium interest payments. Also compensation as a result of the first commission is still to be decided on. I missed this in my first reading of the article.

Then there is a possibility of another independent commission regarding the Financial Year 2023-24.

Compensation regarding the second commission decision is also a possibility.

Everton face anxious wait over unresolved PSR charge as points deduction fear persists

The independent commission postponed an argument over the capitalisation of stadium interest by the club after ruling it was too complex to be heard at the time.

But perhaps the key sentence in the whole piece is the last one:

The Premier League and Everton declined to comment.

Nothing like having something hanging over someone.
The whole thing stinks.

By that time, the legislation for the football regulator will have passed through parliament and we will likely have an independent appeal process separate from the PL.

Man City have stalled their process for years in the expectation of doing the same.