Everton confirm the appointment of David Moyes

It is now up on the official site.

I was not a big fan of Moyes when here but he will be a better manager than the one who left us and I do think he is a decent manager and better than the majority linked with.

Also, thank goodness Dyche went – the team has been terrible this season.

Hopefully, Moyes does well. First job: stay up.

Only time will tell…

'Deflated' is definitely an apt emotion.

I think I'll skip the glorious homecoming on Wednesday and stay downstairs until just before kick-off to take my seat for the match.

No sports news for me between now and then. I'll find something on Netflix.

I have nothing more to say, other than it's a step backwards. We might as well have kept Dyche.

I am okay it's Moyes.

Hopefully a few players now incoming too.

Back Moyes, back the club – stay up and next season promises much more.

Big mistake IMO.

A sensible if uninspiring move in my eyes and, whatever you make of the decision, it is one that seems to have been made quickly and efficiently by TFG which is a nice change to the ‘3-man shortlists' etc.

Who can forget the first-minute goal against Derby to kick it all off, the nights in Europe? Ironically he's probably Man Utd's best manager since Ferguson!

Or, as I like to refer to it... The Return of the Magnificent Seventh!

Now, we need a striker who can score at least 10 goals before the end of the season!

On the pitch, the type of football has to improve.

Not saying I am right behind, or approve of Moyes's return, but it certainly is a far better option than Dyche. How Dyche managed to keep us up the last two seasons is as bewildering as it is somehow commendable, and we owe him for that.

To even chance that he could repeat that would be folly. I think even players were deciding against joining us if offered, whereas Moyes may succeed where Dyche failed in attracting some new faces, which is vitally needed to survive and progress.

Paul @ 10, wailing? Don't assume we all drink Carling! :-)

Moyes is hardly an inspired signing but, as we have recently had the likes of Big Sam and Benitez to stomach, then we all have got used to pragmatism.

The crumb of comfort in this appointment is that Moyes is not the manager that coached us for 11 years. He is more experienced, he is more able, knows more people and he has won something.I won't knock him for winning a European trophy of any kind.

Hopefully, he will calm the nerves in the dressing room and bring some good staff with new ideas. Imagine if Fonseca or Terzi rolled into town and our players couldn't adapt and we went down.

It's a sensible appointment which will hopefully get us enough points to climb the table. I am not expecting miracles. Just football that is a little bit better than before and a few wins.

Good luck, Moyesie.

Dyche admitted himself that they only trained defence with no part of training focused on attack… it lead to all 11 players only being able to defend. That's okay if you're hoping for just 0-0 but, the moment they score, you're screwed.

At least Moyes will be more balanced. Is he the long-term solution? ideally not… but if he gets us regularly mid-table to 4th, I'll take that now.

Longer term, I'd love a more exciting, dynamic manager who could push on but, for now, I'd take a manager who can stabilise the balance of the team, keep us up, and is more than likely to get better bang for our buck in transfers.

I'm not upset about what happened when he left; it could have been better but life's too short… and so is the rest of this season.

That's all that matters now. Debates about our long term future can start once our Premier League status has been secured.

That's longer than I expected – I thought it was 2½ years?

I really think we could possibly do a Sunderland now. Hope not but this appointment doesn't instill me with confidence that we can stay up.

Dyche was taking us down. I think Moyes is too similar… God, I hope I'm wrong!

€110M brought Kudus, Paqueta and Bowen to West Ham, not Moyes.

Marc Watts saying this is a pivotal time for the club how many twists and turns make a pivot?

Roll on the summer, then we will have some certainty again at our club, everything crossed for this one.

“We look forward to working with David to build the foundation of a new era for Everton.”

Foundations that allow a more glorious construction on top (by AN Other) once established.

None whatsoever!

Let's get behind him and pray he brings stability, Premier League safety, and then builds a new Everton that starts competing at the right end of the table. Now we have some money and a new stadium, he can start taking artillery guns and tanks to gunfights.

I could have stomached it slightly better had it been 18 months instead of 2½ years.

I hope they have some clauses in that contract and aren't paying him stupid money.

Moyes will keep us up but my hope is that TFG plan to sack him at the end of the season (like Fat Sam 7 years ago) and appoint a manager for the long term.

By the time TFG have paid Dyche off. They would have spent 15 million to trade on a negative percentage merchant for another few months. Only the one we got is more likely to take us down. Those greeting this appointment with a fanfare should consider the facts.

This guy was sacked (and paid off) by Man Utd after fan pressure forced the board to terminate his 7-year deal while it was still in its infancy.

He was ran out of town by the Hammers who couldn't stomach his entertainment-killing approach.

Took the Mackems down, pissing off everyone at the Stadium of Light in the process.

Kicked out of Sociedad (and paid off again) after a year for stinking the place out.

Cheer and clap this appointment all you want, but I can't shake the feeling that we have just hired the richest failure in football management history.

We giveth £12 Million…

Take thee back to the glass ceiling, knife to a gunfight, dithering Dave transfer windows, getting rogered by the Top 6, derby defeats, the biannual colonoscopy from Man Utd, no wins down south, Keep It Tight And Nick One, the striker's graveyard, getting knocked out of cups by Arsenal's B team, no strikers up front, and being terrified of trips to Anfield.

Oh David Moyes, how I've missed thee.

Hopefully safer as a result and if we stay up then a step forward as sadly I think Dyche ran out of ideas

I'm quite anti-Moyes both because of what he did and what he does.

I'll get behind him, welcome him at Villa, and hope we move forward – both up the league and even up the pitch…

Personally, I am not happy, however, the only thing that matters is staying up.

I'll take unexciting competence over brash, reckless gambles any day of the week.

Let's crack on!

So I checked all the registered historical facts and I was not shocked to discover that going back rarely works.

The spectre of the dead one lingers long.

It was disappointing he won nothing… but it has been an utter nightmare since.

This would not happen by appointing Moyes in a short term capacity. We are sick and need to take our medicine. He may not be the answer for a lot of fans, but he's definitely the solution we need at this time. COYB.

Ps. Davey, can you at least tell us where the Arteta money 💰💰💰 is!?

Will he bring in Alan Irvine, Davey Weir etc who knows, but more than ever to stay up this season.

UTFTs!

I don’t know if TFG had anyone else in mind, you’d like to think so, but that “anyone else” would no doubt have probably still been under contract elsewhere, and it would have cost the club to release him from his contract. That plus paying off Dyche and his gang would have raked up millions in compensation, something we can do without right now due to PSR.

Like him or loathe him, Moyes has the experience of being a premier league manager and knows how tough the premier league can be, and I’m sure he can lead us to safety.

We all wanted a Pep, or a Carlo, but unfortunately their likes weren’t available, but I’d like to think Moyes will be a better choice than Leicester getting Van Nistlerooy or west ham getting Potter. Vitor Pereira who ended up at Wolves, was not wanted by many on here when he was linked a couple of years ago, so we’ll never know how his appointment would have gone down.

So there’s bugger all left to do except welcome Moyes back and get behind him and the team.

Saying he achieved nothing is unfair also. How we would love to be the best of the rest and qualify for European football on a regular basis. Apart from BB shoes first season in charge, we have been awful and never finished so high in the league. Hell,even Fat Sam got us to an 8th place finish. Let's all get real here. Dyche was taking us down. Just watching the match was a chore. If Moyes still has the same eye for an unknown player(Arteta, Fellaini,Cahill,Pienarr) then he could pull a few rabbits out of his hat this month and improve the team tenfold. Or it could all turn to shit. But that could happen with any appointment.

Time to forget any past grudges some may have and get behind David Moyes. A long hard road ahead for the rest of the season.

A couple of shrewd signings needed to freshen up a jaded looking squad.

No, it was predictable.

If you don't try to win key games, that's what happens.

Look how he left us to go to Man Utd – no other manager would have refused to go to Utd at that time.

When Billy Brown Shoes came in, he inherited the best squad since the '80s and finished in the Top 6. Since then, we have become laughable.

Look at the players he brought in with zilch money: Cahill, Arteta, Fellaini… the list goes on.

I'd rather have him than Mourinho and the other managers who have been mentioned.

We now have plenty of time to hopefully get a few bodies in and sort ourselves out for the fight ahead… (gun or knife fight!)

Now let's get behind him and do this.

UTFT!!!!

Two more strikes and there will be spitfires with "TFG Out" banners above our new, soon to be named... Groundhog Day Stadium.

Different owners. Same lack of foresight.

For anyone who thinks it can't get any worse …. Imagine Moyes leading us out in the Championship.

His job at West Ham was good – they won a European trophy, for a club that had been battling relegation.

Realistically, anyone looking at us would see a club in trouble, although with a bright light shining at the end of the tunnel, so they would be wary of a potential black mark against their CV.

All-in-all, I think this has to be the best appointment we could have realistically expected, and I hope we all get behind him and the team.

We all want to move the club forward, but to do that we need a manager who can get us to Top 10, and (for a change) sign some good players. This is exactly what Davey does best.

He struggles once he gets there, as West Ham know to their cost, but there is no one better (not even Carlo) at working in the zone we will need Davey to work in over the next couple of years.

I'd also like to know if the DoF was consulted before the appointment and if there is/was a defining of responsibilities possibly including seniority.

Regardless, I hope it proves a successful appointment at least until the finances are sorted out and Mr Ancellotti asks if he can return, but there is a nagging feeling in the back of my mind that whispers, mediocrity.

For those thinking back to bargains like Cahill etc, that was 20 years ago. But anyone is better than Dyche.

This is the least risky option on the table. Sure, like most I’d have preferred a younger, more dynamic manager. Someone to build us again, but we cannot afford that risk.

2.5 years is not that long and as we all know, if things don’t work out the manager will be sacked. He gets his pay off as any other manager would do.

Im not sure why it matters about the money side either. It’s not our own personal money, the FG have pots of money so complaints about the cost of this and that shouldn’t really concern any of us.

IMHO, Moyes comes back a better manager. Far more experience. He’s gone out there and challenged himself. Sure it’s not always worked out but he’s not just sat on his arse in a warm studio being a mouthpiece (and a shit one at that Carragher)!!

Him leaving for Utd, get over it. So long ago it’s hardly worth debate.

For now, and that is all we need to focus on, he’s our manager and we all simply have to get behind him and the players and keep us in this league !!!

We desperately need additions to the squad. One or two new players in attacking areas, the return of McNeil, Garner and Iroegbunam and the rapid progress of Harrison Armstrong could transform the look of the team.

We have two far from easy, but winnable, home games coming up. Four or six points from those games will ease the pressure on everyone and create some momentum.

Welcome back Davey Moyes and good luck

Gees I wonder what MK really thinks of Martinez, Koeman,Alladyce, Silva, Anchelotti, lampard, and Dyche thereafte, if Moyes was unproductive and disappointing, after inheriting a dog shit team and backed by Esso tokens.

He did a decent job of getting Everton best of the rest. If hadn't, one of the biggest teams in the world wouldn't of come in for me.

Balance please. Is he who we wanted long term? No, but the immediate priority is Premier League survival and sorting a squad with 12 out of contract players come the summer. This is no time to gamble.

We need someone to take us to mid table add some emerging players and then hand it over. Based on that brief Moyes seems a fair choice. Could my choice Iraola keep us up this season? Honestly with these players, playing how he likes,possibly no.

It's clear Friedkins wanted to keep Dyche in place till the summer, but results and a meeting where he'd practically gave up has forced their hand.

Who's to say TFG won't "relieve" him of first team duties before 2027 !
COYB - UTFT.

It is a regressive and divisive appointment which a large part of the fan base disagrees with. As evidenced by the posts over tthe last few days. Offering him a 2.5 year deal is just comical, as his career trajectory was occasional appearances on the “Rest is Football” or Sky.

Nevertheless, he will be supported in his early days by all of us because we want the club to succeed. It will become a serious problem when things do not go his way, as Moyes does not have a huge amount of goodwill in the bank.

I’m guessing there would still have been moans about Pep or Carlo from people who are never happy except when they are moaning.

Have you not been paying attention the last 2 years?

"Im not sure why it matters about the money side either. It’s not our own personal money, the FG have pots of money so complaints about the cost of this and that shouldn’t really concern any of us."

Whatever he gets paid will be paid by Everton Football Club not The Friedkin Group, His wages and any associated payoff if he gets sacked will count in our profit and loss and affect our PSR

It would be interesting to know who advised Dan Friedman and Marc Watts on this appointment.

Of course, I hope it ends well.

Moyes will have us well organised like Dyche did, but he'll offer more going forward and our full backs will be allowed to overlap and actually cross the ******* ball!!

This could be the perfect appointment to get us back on an even keel before more ambitious moves are made in the future. I have no doubts that we'll stay up quite comfortably this season.

There was no other game in town given the set of circumstances that existed, you have it pretty much spot on I would think.

It’s not a given that he keeps us up so your fear is justified.

The guy shat his nappy every time he went down south.

Not happy but will have to suck it up like a big boy.

On side note the fact that The Friedkin group have their two clubs manged by Dour Dave and the ageing Tinkerman shows where they are at in terms of the football knowledge they have.

I would just like to know who the fuck is advising them? Who advised them that David Moyes and Claudio Ranieri is the best they can get.

Did the appointment of David Moyes come with a free pen and a £50 M&S voucher?

We are still a club in trouble both financially and on the pitch and it will take several years to stabilise the club before any chance of making giant strides forwards. Moyes seems to be the right man to offer that stability (all other names would have been a risk too) and then hopefully in 2 years if he has only taken us to mid table then we can look to find a better manager if need be and then we'll have some more money to spend.

Currently our ambition is on pause while we try to stay up while being outbid by Ipswich for reinforcements.

Unfortunately the damage was done 2016 to 2021 by a combination of idiots. It's left us poor during a period where other bottom half Premier League clubs can compete with the likes of AC Milan for transfers.

Moyes achieved nothing at the club. But neither has any manager in the last 37 years. The problem isn't with the managers - it's been with a succession of people running the club.

Next season should be a lot better than this season. The season after that should be better still.

I don’t knock Moyes’s ambition, as he must be amazed that it has come his way. TFG’s ambition for the club in making this appointment? It demonstrates that it will be limited.

It is funny to see the first excuse making for Mr Moyes coming before he has even started “ if Moyes does lead us out in the Championship it certainly won't be down to his lack of trying; but more the lack of quality in the squad available to him due to mismanagement of the club for over a decade.”

He was announced less than 2 hours ago, and the excuse factory has already kicked in.

It is nice though to see some many posters who have written on here for over a decade popping back in.

And now that dour,dull, depressing xxxx is back, well those who want him can fuckin’ have him, I’ll use the rest of my season ticket this season and then I’m done after watching this club for the last 77 seasons.

Obviously I desperately want my team to stay up but that’s the biggest kick in the balls I’ve ever had off Everton and I’ve had quite a few, plenty while that xxxx was last in charge, so stay up Blues but I won’t see you at the new ground.

After all he deserves to go to a Big club.

Welcome back to little old Everton old man.

Underlwhelming but unsurprising.

Any word on his assistant??

Moyes may have negotiated a blinder to protect himself. £10 million will be a drop in the ocean for TFG once we're confirmed as a premier league club.

Expect to see Harry Maguire and Anthony in Everton shirts pretty soon.

With Branthwaite going the other way.

Anyway, we're stuck with him for now.

Two home games, 6pts and he was everybody's pick, always said he was good, etc.

He's got the best start he could get - 2 at home under the lights.

Get that bear pit going.

Zero fucking trophies mate

Comes back, keeps us up and takes us into BMD.
Then he can move upstairs and be part of the board.
With Moyes I remember he will only buy a player that is an improvement, rather than someone to do a job. Almost every player we bought since Moshiri has been to do a job rather than improve what we have.
He knows what makes a good player more than anyone at our club and that should be kept at all costs.

Give someone more progressive thereafter but Moyes can vet the player.

Getting way ahead of myself here but I am reasonably happy and never had a beef with him like some

Does he have flaws? Absolutely (knife to a gunfight mentality, terrible cup record, inability to sign strikers).

Is he comfortably Everton’s best manager of the last 30 years? Without question.

Here’s our average league positions during the Premier League era:

Pre Moyes: 14.1
Moyes: 7.5
Post Moyes: 10.9

We were awful before he arrived, we’ve been awful since he left. At a time when we need stability and with our hands tied by PSR parameters and stadium debt, I can completely understand why TFG have made this move.

Didn’t realise there was so many actually.

About 50% were deemed successful returns.

Let’s see where this is going, I don’t wan’t to hear a load of excuses (no funds, injuries, poor culture). He’s marketed as an experienced manager so we should expect improvement by end of Feb.

Time to dig out the One2One shirt, and start praying. UTF Moyes Ts!

What will the noise be like when he brings in a few unglamorous players.

Could he bring in Rashford? Would that appease anybody?

All the opinions on here are great. We all have our opinions and are all respected.

The reality is what it is.

So let’s all get behind the cause and get our FABULOUS club up this table and stop having to look over our shoulders.

He must have known that it would lead to him leaving early.

I will be interested to see how he spins it in his memoir.

Moyes out.

Look I don't know if he will be successful here depending on what various people gauge as success, but I know we are in better hands than we have been under the last 3 managers, so I will take that.

Of course, it’s hard not too.

All I'm trying to say is that should not bother us. We (the fans) cannot do anything about this, the money men will have their day.

We can only affect what happens in the pitch by giving our full support.

There is very little we can have an affect on.

Agreed mate,

My God some of the posts on here, anyone would think that David Moyes had actually got us relegated at some point in the past. Far from it.

It really does reek of jilted bitterness because he went to United. Football is a ruthless business, accept that, and maybe we can use Managers like they use us, for specific circumstances.

In 6 months time we will be in the Premier League and Moyes won’t be our Manager in my opinion, job done.

Except we do care.

This is an absolutely awful appointment.

It is also - unfortunately - the most sensible appointment we could have made in our current predicament.

David Moyes was not a successful manager during his previous tenure with us. He was though, a stable manager. The question for me is, which of these do we need now the most ?

If this is a short term gig, so be it but anything more is unacceptable. Someone mentions earlier on in this thread the magnificent seventh. I remember we brought out a DVD with this title at the end of this particular season. For me, that is embarrassing and flies in the face of our motto.

We needed Mr right but have ended up with Mr right now.

I could just about stomach 6 months of "Dour Davey" until the end of the season... but 2 and a half years?!?! No thanks!

I would've hoped TFG had adopted a more modern approach of employing a DOF who had a vision of a style of play he wanted to play, then identify the suitable manager to implement that style. For example, a DOF that wants to play a high energy, high pressing style and only signs players under the age of 24 to develop into that style with a manager that shares that same vision.

I understand we need to survive relegation this season, and we could do worse than Moyes to achieve that goal. But, with so many players out of contract and going back to their parent clubs at the end of this campaign, next season is pivotal in developing a new squad and style for a future generation in a brand new stadium.

Moyes is not the future! He is uninspiring! It isn't at all surprising to me that TFG has gone down this route as things have played out similar at Roma. They don't seem to have a clear plan on the footballing side of things. They just seem to hire and fire managers with differing styles of football without having a clear vision in the first place.

TFG will no doubt improve the finances and commercial side of the club. They are shrewd business men... but I'm highly sceptical on their ability to take us to the 'promised land' on the pitch, which when all said a done, is all us supporters care about.

We all have differing opinions on Moyes but for those unable to see the positives we have got rid of Dyche and not replaced with Sam or Rafa.

Someone wrote on another thread about possible regrets after giving up their season tickets.

That's exactly what I did after witnessing Sam's first game in charge and I have had no such regrets. With Dyche now gone, new owners and BMD in the horizon I'll be looking to get a season ticket with renewed optimism.

Timing is important. I feel lucky to have skipped the anti-football recently serve up apart from witnessing the odd game.

Hopefully our recruitment can be even luckier with bringing in the right player's at the right time.

The youth set-up needs to step up and in a few season's we can really progress with a best in class manager, coach, DOF, academy etc.

So welcome back Moyes, your our space saver replacement wheel to ensure we get to our next destination safely.

Or maybe I’m overthinking how to save cash in a situation like this

Can anyone tell me how people at Everton define success??? Because it sure as hell is not about winning trophies.
And with this signing Friedkin shows us he is Kenshite 2.0

Oh wait, this isn't Football Manager, this is the real world, we have some good but mostly mediocre players, no wiggle room within PSR, and we're, yet again, forced to cut our cloth to our circumstances.

Although it can be a bit dour at times, he is not a "kick the ball forwards and hope for the best" or "rough the other team up" type of manager.

Don't forget, we had the likes of Cahill, Arteta, Baines, Pienaar, Rooney, Coleman, Yobo, Kilbane, Jeffers, Johnson, Yakubu and more who were not just kick-and-rush players.

We can't expect open attacking football, especially in the position we are now, but surely it will be better and more positive than we have seen lately.

We should deffo keep Bainesy if he can see into the future! :-)

Yes, I heard that last night with Bill McKinlay as his assistant. I think McKinlay was with him at Preston in some capacity, possibly a player.

It is what it is. We are where we are.

Let's hope that – come May – we are where we want to be.

I feel very similar to you about this appointment. I'll be renewing my season ticket, but only to keep it in the family really. I doubt I'll be going much at all though.

I've been increasingly disenchanted with football in general over the past decade. Everton's woes have deepened that. This is possibly the final straw.

#6 'not bad on a shoestring': He had the 7th best Premier League budget, was the 5th highest earning manager in Europe and yet his average finish was 8th.

'Not good use of a shoestring' would be more accurate.

If you go onto YouTube clip and search for 'Leighton Baines', you'll be able to see it. Not sure why the link will not work.

I'm not necessarily questioning it, but a bit more detail would be nice. Was that the 7th best budget in each of his seasons, or averaged across them?

I would be amazed if that idea hasn’t been considered Frank. If not Weir then I think he could be very good at that role.

How come we have leaders in our club without any fuckin idea if how to hire managers to play modern football? We are totally f*in clueless.

Thanks Sean for what you did for us. But it was the correct time to parts ways.

David Moyes please have me watching Everton so I can enjoy it once again.

The outcome of this decision has the same air of inevitability about it as the appointment of Benitez.

As for the bleating ' he left us for Utd' he's a professional not a spectator he does the job for money, not because he 'loves the club'.

Its up to us to do what we can to help the club in any way possible now and get behind Moyes and the players.

We are clinging on just above the bottom three and theres a very great danger that with the squad we have we could be relegated.

With Moyes I think we will just about scrape enough points together to stay up, but its far from certain.

But if you took away the fact that he's always linked due to previously being with us, his CV would probably still stand out as a safe choice to provide actual stability and recovery - ie not just park the bus and get out before the decline becomes terminal.

Honestly, I can't think of many others involved in our club over the last couple of decades that I would trust more to take us through this next 6 months plus. And it may just end up being 6 months - the contract is a commercial offering that gives Moyes the financial commitment that other clubs might have offered. It's not a guaranteed period in the role.

I doubt he's going to be leading us to glory, but he's capable of guiding us away from the brink of disaster and starting the recovery.

I am also curious about Moyes' team. Someone else echoed my thoughts earlier by suggested we go all out to get Carsley, a progressive coach alongside Moyes. I think Baines and Coleman too would give a lift to this uninspiring appointment.

If they are really progressively thinking then a transition plan with Carsley taking the reigns after Moyes.

Maybe the departmental heads, e.g. scouting, academy, sports science etc will be left to themselves, till either we know our future League status. and or Moyes is dismissed/retained? Or maybe Thelwell will be kept till summer and judged then?

As I've heard (hopefully a little more reliably) that Fabio Paratici, formerly of Spurs is being eyed, who is a huge fan on Fonseca. Maybe says a lot, maybe not.

I think that rumours of Dan Ashworth can be put to bed.

Apparently, ITKs have said that Moyes would like to reunite with Kevin Nolan, Billy MacKinlay and David Irvine...

Make of that as you will. Though Ornstein does usually have a good ear.

Also Moyes is not at Finch Farm today, he'll be in tomorrow tho.

I get that he's not the man people want, but the revisionist bollocks is just that, bollocks.

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He's already rewriting history by saying his 11 years here previously, were successful! My arse! I must have missed that or my memory is truly faulty.

And as for him claiming it as "our" new stadium, meaning he's included himself as part of "our" — what a bloody cheek.

I can only hope TFG are planning to shaft him come June, though how you shaft someone by paying them off with the best part of £12M, beats me. Hateful man.

Perhaps the likes of Marc Watts and David Moyes are just that, stop gaps and there will be a total revamp once the season is over.

Maybe someone will take it.

As for fans who think Moyes leaving the way he did makes them think some of us embittered I, for one, couldn't wait for him to do one.

In fact, coming out of Wembley when we won on penalties against Man Utd, one of their fans said to me “Sorry we'll be taking your manager off you soo.”

I replied “You can fuckin' have him, mate, the quicker the fuckin' better!”

Everton made him a multi-millionaire with fabulous wages, he got plenty out of Man Utd and other clubs… and he is now “Happy to be back at this fabulous club.” The club he couldn't get away from quick enough.

Good luck, Everton. I've always loved you, always will… but enough is enough. Stay up, please. Players, managers come and go but our fans are as good as any other and better than most. But after this season, I'm through, and I doubt I will be the only one.

Please don't deny yourself the opportunity to retain your season ticket.

Yes, I admit that for long-term fans (I only supported EFC from 74/75) who have seen the real glory days, i.e. the 60's and the brief resurgence in the 80's.

However, I say to you Dave Abrahams, that is is just another fleeting moment in our club's history.

By the end of June, Moyes may well not be our manager, and he will have achieved TFG's goal of PL survival. I despise that word, but currently, from where we are and with the club and squad as it is, it is the bottom line target we need to achieve.

They say patience is a virtue, well never a truer word spoken for the current phase in time with your Club.

At this moment in time, with the team struggling, and the ownership having to deal with things it hadn't planned to address so soon, what is needed more than anything is the patience, understanding and support of the fans.

I'm not suggesting asking for the same level of support as during the last three relegation battles, and pi55 p00r seasons, but we as fans need to show that we've not given up on the team, and more importantly the club.

Remember Dave, "This too will pass!"

Good wishes mon ami, and hang on in there, the club needs you!

However, we have to give him a clean fresh start !
We can't afford to bitch and moan about the past now, what good is that going to do ? It doesn't matter, its history! What matters is what he does now !
He's here, hes got a job to do, we need him to do that job, so I'll be offering my support.
Harking back to 12 years ago and what he done is just negative, not going to help anyone!
Who's arsed now about losses 13- 14 years ago? I'm more interested in the next 10 years not the last 20 !

Forget his past it means nothing for our future!!!

Sums up what a lot of us feel.

A managerial change should at least start with a honeymoon period, a sense of hope of what might be. Unfortunately we know what Moyes brings and mid table mediocrity bereft of ambition isn't "hope" for many.

Excellent post.