Everton’s predictable offensive setup crying for a reset in the wake of the Merseyside derby

Get rid of both, I say.

I totally agree with all your points and said so on Michael's post on the game.

Harrison and Doucoure will never produce or score enough goals to help us challenge for trophies. I am sure Moyes will be weighing up his options regarding his front 3 for next season.

I think long term probably Chermiti is the best hope — we can't ask a young lad to lead the line for all next season. I haven't seen enough of Broja to know whether to try and extend his loan. And Beto, though a willing worker, just doesn't have the quality to be the long-term answer.

The problem is the, most expensive problem to fix in a side is that of attackers, they come at premium rates that at the moment we can't afford. So Moyes and his scouts will have to try and come up with cheaper alternatives. But for me anything would be better than Harrison or Doucoure.

He's a good un and a great attitude and application. He loves us too. Many of us love him back. Ole Norberto!

Most missed chances this season: Haaland and Salah.

He surely also must now realise Harrison and Doucouré are not up to it.

Stop playing them, for fuck's sake, they are a liability on the ball.

We have a strong developing squad that needs improving mostly in the finishing area; defensively we have players that their age shows their weakness is starting to show in their timing in tackles and positional play.

David Moyes has a difficult job before the start of next season and let's hope that the new director is as good as his reputation. We definitely need a finisher but he has to be part of the team as we may loose players in the off-season, preferably the two that keep getting mentioned.

It's a team game in that it does not matter what position you play, you still need your team to help, but it would be nice having someone that could put the ball in the back of the net during a game and not just in training.

I reiterate what I've said for many weeks: an overhaul will happen this summer… if it doesn't, then I'll be very surprised.

Dominic Calvert-Lewin will leave as a free agent, injury prone that he's been these last 4 years.

Harrison will go back to Leeds with no chance of us loaning him back and even less chance of a permanent move.

Broja will go back to Chelsea with the expected injury record that we all feared bearing fruition.

Unless we can orchestrate a second loan for Jesper Lindstrøm, then he'll be gone too, and it's up for debate whether he's even done enough while on loan.

Young and Keane must surely leave this summer.

Doucoure won't be getting kept on by the look of it and I'd expect him to find pastures new in the land of oil.

I wouldn't be at all shocked to see Patterson go back to Rangers in some capacity, another player that's not made a jot of impact in 3 years.

Then of course there is the saga that will no doubt be Jarrad Branthwaite's future.

Only sentiment would allow Seamus Coleman to remain here as, in my eyes now, he's no longer a player, just a fan favourite that remains in the foundations, his contribution to the playing side ended years ago.

It also remains to be seen if we can negotiate a deal to sign Charly Alcaraz.

It's going to be a summer of outs, I think; it would surprise me and probably disappoint me if it isn't.

But the whole of the left-hand side was wide open, it was easier to shoot to the left, a terrible miss.

It's probably going to be easier to upgrade the more versatile wing / forward options (the RS lined up without a conventional striker last night as they often do).

If we do that – and also bring in a quality right-back – then the whole team becomes more potent in attack.

I agree, because of circumstances, Beto is likely to still be here next season. In fact, if he had carried on scoring like he started under Moyes, we have got a good sized fee for him and possibly could still if he scores a few more between now and the end of the season.

He's playing upfront on his own mostly and creating chances, WIth eight more games to play, if he gets 5 or 6 goals in those games, he could get us the value we agreed to pay for him!

A good report of the game, Anjishnu.

Goes on a scoring streak, looks for more inspiration and watches the rest – Calvert-Lewin 0150 can't fuckin score in a brothel now!!!

It's all about quality. Obviously everything else that makes both a player and a team are very important, but quality wins the game most weeks.

Beto is an enigma: he worked hard, never gave up, but I never quite fancy him when he's in dangerous areas because he simply lacks quality.

I've said I'd play Doucoure out wide and not many people would agree with this but watching Harrison going down blind alleys before eventually getting bullied does become soul-destroying.

Doucoure would go down those same blind alleys but would rarely be bullied because nobody including himself knows what he's going to do next.

Back to Harrison, I was disgusted rather than shocked, when he never drove at the outnumbered Liverpool defence with enough pace to suck them in and then play Alcaraz in, but I was shocked that he hadn't been replaced by that stage!

Talking aboutaod Branthwaite's performance last night.

And I would go even further with getting rid of the Gana and Garner pair, who were also anonymous in midfield last night.

We need to aim higher and higher than the present squad.
Keep Pickford, O'Brien, Tarkowski, Branthwaite, Alcaraz and Ndiaye… a decent 6-a-side team!

He was villain or hero last night. Largely isolated, he scored, only to be ruled marginally offside (finished well; shrugged off defender well) – and then he shrugged off their central defenders but hit the post. Another day, he's a hero.

Beyond these scenarios, he can't hold the ball up, so doesn't give us a release option. All been said before but he's no good with his back to goal; he can be effective facing goal.

I don't think he's the guy to spearhead our attack at the new stadium, hold as a No 2 striker (he wasn't prepared to accept that, wanted a move) or sell if we can get decent value. I think it's the latter.

Let's invest in some young, hungry talent and, although many will not like this, retain a couple of the out-of-contract players. In regard to the latter, Gana and Young would be on my retain list.

For Beto's chance one one-on-one, the keeper dives to the right where Beto shoots, but the whole of the lefthand side was wide open, it was easier shoot to the left, terrible miss.

Someone on the Live Forum said that Beto did not miss this chance. Repeat, did not miss.

He's even ruined his barnet now with his Shogun hair bun.

In my opinion, Beto made it harder for himself by going to the keeper's right, because there was less room to work with from where he was shooting from, he was on that side of the goal himself.

Perhaps he was thinking something different might work. It almost did in that he managed to get it past Kelleher but not the post, unfortunately.

Perhaps the answer is to move Garner out to the right, and play Iroegbunam alongside Gueye and allow Alcaraz the freedom to flourish and to really impact the game.

Doucoure is leaving. Why persist?

Doucoure can't pass so he doesn't provide support play and his flicks just result in losing possession.Harrison is a waste of space regarding support play, but selected due to his defensive effort.

Liverpool's poor defense, provided more support for Beto than Everton. Unfortinately he is not clinical.

We have now played eight games in all competitions with only one win and no clean sheets. Not all of those teams have been of the top quality. Worryingly, bigger tests, on paper at least, lie immediately in front of us. I see no viable option other than to focus first and foremost on defensive strength. That’s what suits the players against the best teams.

Beto finished the first chance with calm and was denied by the flag, and he hit the second one sharply and was denied by the post. Bad luck both ways. Nobody we have could have done better.

But I can't wait for Chermiti to get his chance.

Unfortunately you are right, But Moyes substitutions in the Man United match lost the game and persistence with Doucoure and Harrison make him increasingly look like Dyche.

Moyes in the derby stopped the wing play.Doucoure adds nothing to the midfield trio, which normally has more space to play in against the top half table sides.

The counterattack does need support play to effectively function, A Premier League team has to have more depth going forward, or else their forwards are bottled up into unfavourable goal scoring positions.Forward play needs more supported movement to avoid this.

Whilst a Premier League Club can mark up, the more effective defence is to limit opportunities and sl forwards into positions that a goalkeeper can effectively save from.

Moyes should be moved into this position to do what he’s very good at, finding decent players.
His time in the dugout is over, please employ a young Coach with fresh ideas.
If it goes wrong, Moyes can step back in as Caretaker.
It’s a great role for him, it could be a 10 year position - a reward for coming back to the Club and caring.
We collectively need the excitement of a new name being announced as first team manager for next season.

Hurzeler, Iraola and Frank would be the three main contenders. I fear Moyes’ ego, and any Manager in his position with his record., would not accept this though. They love the day to day coaching too much maybe?

It’s a shame, because I think he would make a great Director of football for Everton. It would give the Club the stability it needs while also being able to experiment with a more modern coaching style, until we find the right formula.