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After 133 years, the Everton men’s team finally bid goodbye to Goodison Park following a 2-0 victory over Southampton last Sunday. Iliman Ndiaye scored a brace in an emotional encounter.

The Blues are preparing to move to the Hill Dickinson Stadium at Bramley-Moore Dock next season. The new and world-class 52,888 seater stadium is situated on the banks of the River Mersey and will serve as the new home for the men’s team.

Goodison Park, meanwhile, will host matches for the Everton women’s team and new owner Dan Friedkin sent a message to the club and its supporters ahead of the final fixture.

"Dear Evertonians, today we celebrate a sacred moment in our club's story: the final men's match at Goodison Park,” he said in the special A4 commemorative matchday programme.

“For 133 years, this ground has been more than a stadium. It's been the beating heart of English football, where legends are born, generations unite, and hope echoes far beyond the terraces. 

 "Let us breathe in that history as we salute the Grand Old Lady - for all she's given, and all she will continue to give as the home of our women's team and the triumphs she will witness. 

"It was your passion and spirit that drew us to Everton. And it's that spirit that leads us forward - into a bold new chapter at our new stadium, a world-class home where ambition meets tradition, built on the proud foundation Goodison has laid.

"Thank you for all you've given, and all you'll bring to what's next as we march forward together. 

"Nil Satis, Nisi Optimum."

Quotes sourced from Liverpool Echo


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Jamie Crowley
1 Posted 22/05/2025 at 15:30:58
Brilliant.

I have a suspicion we finally have the owners we need and deserve.

Jay Harris
2 Posted 22/05/2025 at 15:42:41
Agreed Jamie, although anyone would be an improvement on the previous owners.

Nice to see our motto remembered too. Its a long time since we heralded that.

Lewis Barclay
3 Posted 22/05/2025 at 15:51:41
If I look back a little while to what was happening with 777 Partners, and then read this message, I feel like this club may have turned a corner.

This summer holds huge trepidation, but maybe, for the first time in a long while, some hope.

Jamie Crowley
4 Posted 22/05/2025 at 15:58:33
Jay - Agreed on the motto. 100%.

Lewis - Trust the new owners. They are intelligent, good businessmen, and know what they are doing. Look at what they did at Roma. They are long term looking and pragmatic. Be patient. They'll get us back near the top. Don't expect flashy signings, a catapult to the top of the table, or any such nonsense. They'll stabilize us, get us up the table, and long term have us battling with a team we can get behind for trophies and Champions League. I'll be a lot of money on that.

Danny O'Neill
5 Posted 22/05/2025 at 16:00:11
As if I didn't need words bringing back my watery hay fever eyes, he only goes on does it.

The words are from the heart and he has bought into Everton.

He respects Goodison, but is the person who has given us the future.

He's an Evertonian now. As we all know, there is no going back. Once you are in, it's for life.

Alan McGuffog
6 Posted 22/05/2025 at 16:01:19
Jesus...just looked at the headline and thought he'd jacked us in already 😳
Paul Hewitt
7 Posted 22/05/2025 at 16:22:53
Could of at least turned up for the last match.
Michael Kenrick
8 Posted 22/05/2025 at 16:38:15
But this was his message in the Matchday Programme, written and prepared last week, sometime before the game on Sunday.

Er... why has it taken the Echo at least 4 days to find this gem?

Just bizarre.

Danny O'Neill
9 Posted 22/05/2025 at 16:53:02
Michael, because despite their token effort after Sunday, they will be back to their red roots soon enough.

Their colour is red with a Liver bird in the red mix.

Excuse my OCD, but I like everything in alphabetical order. But no, on their website, it's LFC before Everton FC on the title bar.

I give them a miss and have done for decades.

Standby for the love fest on Monday.

Brian Harrison
10 Posted 22/05/2025 at 17:32:15
Dan

Really nice to see your tribute to the fans and Our Grand Old Lady, would have been nice if you could have delivered those words in person on the pitch on Sunday.

Stephen Vincent
11 Posted 22/05/2025 at 17:48:46
Don't know why we are blaming the Red Echo, those words were printed on page 4 of the excellent match day programme from Sunday.

Totally agree with Brian, actions speak louder than words and those words should have been spoken in person from the pitch.

Jury's still out for me.

Dale Self
12 Posted 22/05/2025 at 18:02:47
While I would like to have seen him attend at Goodison, this is far better than the 'appearances' made by the 777 Wanderer.
Sean Kelly
13 Posted 22/05/2025 at 18:11:54
I couldn’t give a shite if he turns up or not. Just show us the money. Keep Branthwaite and build a team around him. FFS give him a pay rise and don’t feck about with psr rules
Ryan Holroyd
14 Posted 22/05/2025 at 18:47:58
Me too Sean. I think the Man City owner has been to city about 3x in his 15 year ownership.

I’ve had enough of owners taking the spotlight. Let them be in the background

Robert Tressell
15 Posted 22/05/2025 at 19:04:39
Spot on Sean.
Les Moorcroft
16 Posted 22/05/2025 at 19:10:29
Dan 9
Yes the love fest will be back on Monday.
As we showed on Sunday, we mite no win trophy's. But we have something they don't its called class.
Mann city, crystal Palace. They give there players who are at the end of there contracts a good sening off. No boooooos.
Players come and go. Success comes and goes, so does form.
Class is permanent.
They are classless. Hope it thunders on Monday.
UTFT💙
Trevor Powell
17 Posted 22/05/2025 at 19:12:09
I rather feel that TFG felt that this was a historical occasion about GP and the limelight should be dedicated firmly on the fans, former players and present day squad! I imagine things will be a little different at BMD?
Mark Taylor
18 Posted 22/05/2025 at 19:14:39
I think this emotive stuff is to please the fans and I don't believe a word of it. Money talks more.

But that doesn't matter. They want to make a return on investment. The only way to build value is success. They may be smart enough businessmen and football aware to do that. The proof will be in the eating.

We can do the emoting. What we can't do is the financing. To each, their own.

Paul Ferry
19 Posted 22/05/2025 at 20:08:23
Crocodile words.

Despite the desperate efforts of one of our Yanks to show us that Dan the man and his lad were at The Old Lady [“the beating heart of English football”: straight from Dan’s pen, not] for her last men’s game, they were not. The son, apparently, chose to turn up for a meaningless match at Roma rather than hop on a plane for the 900 mile-ish trip to Liverpool where “a sacred moment in our club’s story” was taking place. Dad couldn’t even be arsed to fly his own super Gulfstream G650ER jet (registered as N28UD) over the pond for a quick turnaround at John Lennon (he loves flying it, apparently).

This love-message was probably penned by a secretary. I’ll bet 500 quid that Dan the man did not write a single word of it. He couldn’t even spare the time/commitment to drum up a thirty-second video for this “sacred moment in our club’s story [to] salute the Grand Old Lady” and with sad face send his "emotional goodbye".

So, don’t give me all this sugary and teary “breathe in that history” shite Mr. Friedkin. It sounds so plazzy. You should have been there at “a sacred moment in our club’s story”. A single appearance a season is worth more than this contrived piece of paper (you couldn’t even persuade the boy to hop on an executive jet for a short flight). But you chose to be elsewhere despite those ever so passionate, emotional, and wholeheartedly dedicated words. I’m a tad surprised that someone – anyone – who is so emotional and passionate about EFC did not show up, even though he had a nice comfy free seat.

Just keep on making big $$$$$$$$$$ you ace corporate bigshot. Your job is to give us some of it. Let’s see what you do for us over the summer – words/actions, actions/words. Meanwhile, you have to understand that whenever your corporate team comes up with some of this emotional drivel to placate some fans that others might not be prepared to drink them in at face value. There’s always another narrative. It’s not hard to find it.

G'wed lad, get typing, put ZCars on.

Oliver Molloy
20 Posted 22/05/2025 at 20:57:42
Don't get me wrong I am so glad Moshiri is gone and we never got the 777 guys, however...

" For 133 years, this ground has been more than a stadium. It's been the beating heart of English football, where legends are born, generations unite, and hope echoes far beyond the terraces".

CORRECT DAN - SO WHY WERE YOU NOT THERE ON SUNDAY ?

You are the owner of our great club - show up - you should have been in the centre of the pitch speaking to the fans - you missed a huge opportunity.
Pretentious for me - only winning a trophy will change my mind, so get on it!

John Burns
21 Posted 22/05/2025 at 21:01:31
Totally agree with Paul. It’s a cold corporate message pretending to understand what Everton, its history and its supporters are. Simply not true. We are just their new dollar churner.

But if their cold professionalism brings us success, then we will embrace the new culture. But don’t make out you understand us. If you did, you would have been there on Sunday.

Tony Abrahams
22 Posted 22/05/2025 at 21:04:04
Although English, was never my best subject, I wasn’t impressed with the some of the words that were used in this statement.

For 133 years this ground has been more than a stadium. It’s been the beating heart of English football, where legends “were” born, generations “United” and hope “echoed” far beyond the terraces.

Thank you for all you have given? We don’t want thanks Dan, we do it all off our own back and always will do, but we do want people who care and want to make us great again.

I personally don’t need words, but I’m very interested in actions though. The last owner fell on his sword, but his actions in building a new stadium, have hopefully paved the way for a much brighter future and the one before who was great with words, took a lot of us for absolute fools.

If it really was our passion and spirit that drew you to Everton, then why didn’t you come and see how great the Evertonians, can be on Sunday?

I also genuinely hope the women start winning things, but when is someone inside our club, going to start talking about triumphs for the men

Ian Burns
23 Posted 22/05/2025 at 21:06:40
Mr Paul Ferry - I see you are still posting your irascible views - your honesty always makes me smile.

Keep well, keep posting and keep entertaining Paul - I sometimes wonder if Chicago knew what they were letting themselves in for!!

Mike Gaynes
24 Posted 22/05/2025 at 21:15:08
Jamie #4, that's the way I view it -- building from a foundation, a foundation that will last into the future.

Friedkin is exactly what we hoped for in an owner. He's serious, reputable, scandal-free and a massive financial powerhouse. He isn't a gambling magnate, a shady investment partnership buried in fraud allegations, a sanctioned oligarch's caddy, a showbiz impresario or an Arab country's wealth fund. He isn't a Glazer, a Ratcliffe, an Ashley, a Liebherr, a Levy or a Lewis. That makes me happy.

Early indications are that he's going to hire people and let them run the club. Will he make the right hiring decisions? Well, he's been successful in every business venture of his life, in the process hiring everybody from sales directors to movie directors to resort designers to conservationists. He's had a few bumps at Roma, but he seems to be getting it right now. I feel a hell of a lot better about his judgement than those of his two predecessors -- or our other potential buyers.

Was he at Goodison last weekend? Who cares? The Athletic reported "family members" and the executive chairman were there. His son was at the Roma game and the Italian press speculated that he went to Everton. Me, I couldn't care less. I care about him putting the right people in the right jobs and providing them with the financial and technical resources to deliberately restore this club to its former glory -- without legal, political, financial or Tandoori chicken complications.

And I believe that's what he will do. It'll take a while -- there are lots of puzzle pieces to juggle -- but I think we got the right guy.

Oliver #20, if Moshiri had succeeded in selling us to 777, you can bet those two shifty clowns would have been out in the center circle at Goodison with microphones in their hands -- and security guards around them to keep the process servers away.

I like this way better.

Paul Hewitt
25 Posted 22/05/2025 at 21:18:43
Mike@24. I don't care who you are. If you're a billionaire you have skeletons in your cupboard.
Mark Murphy
26 Posted 22/05/2025 at 21:22:05
“Irascible “
Well, that’s one word for it.
That Tyronosaurus Rex was one irascible fcuker when it got its teeth into yer wasn’t he?
🤣
Kevin Molloy
27 Posted 22/05/2025 at 21:22:44
I hope you're right Mike. if what you say is going to happen happens, we'll all be happy. He's just at the start. I think by the end of the window we will know which way the wind is blowing.
But that tribute to Goodison is a load of hooey. He had six months to catch one of the last games at the Old Lady, and he couldn't be arsed. That's on him.
Jonathan Oppenheimer
28 Posted 22/05/2025 at 21:32:33
I’m pretty agnostic about this entire debate. He may or may not love Everton yet. He may or may not have skeletons in his closet (don’t we all?). And no matter what he said or did on Sunday, a good many would blast him for this or that. Although indeed a tad strange that he wouldn’t at least show up to experience the moment. The benefit of the doubt goes to the argument that he didn’t want it to be about him at all.

But I’ll reserve my judgment for when it matters. Big decisions on hiring, firing, spending, work in the community, and such.

At this point, we can all at least agree that the best thing that happened in the past year regarding ownership is that those 777 snakes went down in the mud where they belong, never to return to our beloved Goodison or set foot in the fancy new HillDick or whatever we’re calling it.

Oliver Molloy
29 Posted 22/05/2025 at 21:33:16
Mike Gaynes,
"Was he at Goodison last weekend? Who cares?

Well, ALL Evertonians I spoke with do - and found it very strange he was not at the ground, even non Everton people think it was disrespectful so I would say many many Evertonians care.

Mike Gaynes
30 Posted 22/05/2025 at 21:36:33
Kevin #27, I'm very, very doubtful that he bought the club because he's an Evertonian and wants to go to games. He bought us as an investment. If he becomes a Blue along the way, great. If he'd rather make movies or fly around Tanzania, no problem. I care a whole lot more about what he does for the club than whether he comes to watch it.

Also IMO it will take a hell of a lot longer than one window to determine whether the people he hires know what they're doing.

Oliver #29, God knows I wouldn't have missed that game. If I'd been the club's new owner I'd have been out there yelling my lungs out and waving a flag like that little girl who was shown swinging one about five times her size.

But everybody makes their own choices. I met enough team owners in my years as a journo to know they come in all types -- and whether they were good or bad owners wasn't determined by whether they came to games. I think our fans will forgive him quickly if he does his job well.

Tony Abrahams
31 Posted 22/05/2025 at 21:36:57
Mike is just speaking for himself Oliver.

Paul Ferry
32 Posted 22/05/2025 at 21:38:49
If you couldn't care less whether he was there or not, why did you plummet to the depths of evidential interpretation to suggest that he was? It was my good self who revealed on here that the lad could not be arsed to hop on a plane for a short flight for “a sacred moment in our club’s story”. You know what, perhaps it's a cultural way of understanding and doing things? In Friedkin-land-speak you buy something and don't give a shite about the people apart from your ace management crew, So, don't give us this shite drivel then. Don't insult us. Don't pretend to get or know or understand or empathise with our club and its lovely history. Shut up, give us $$$$$$$ (let's see what you do this summer) and feck off when you decide to sell us. Sooner rather than later, I suspect. At least you're giving US Evertonians hard ons.
Mike Gaynes
33 Posted 22/05/2025 at 21:46:28
I guess from a certain obsessed perspective, cutting and pasting two lines from The Athletic qualifies as the depths of evidential interpretation. Ah, well.

Tony Abrahams
34 Posted 22/05/2025 at 21:47:32
Mike@30, quite a few people praised Brands, early in his Everton tenure, but I think it soon became very apparent that he was out of his depth for whatever reason and just carried on taking the money while keeping his mouth shut.

Our club, has been to hell and back though so I would definitely expect things to take time, although I will be making a judgement on the Friedkin’s, once I see how much money they are making available for new signings though.

The older I get the more I realise that nothing beats having a well thought out plan - so this is my biggest wish with regards these new owners.

Jonathan Oppenheimer
35 Posted 22/05/2025 at 21:49:08
If the Paul Ferry-Mike Gaynes cage match needs to happen in between Chicago and the west coast, I’ll happily host it in St. Paul, provided we can have a beer summit and a hugfest afterwards.
Liam Mogan
36 Posted 22/05/2025 at 21:49:56
Tony, as the most ingenious American of all time frequently stated;

"I love it when a plan comes together" 

Colin Glassar
37 Posted 22/05/2025 at 21:50:05
Perhaps Friedkin stayed away from the Southampton game because he felt that was the last chapter of the Everton story that he has not been part of. He’s a newcomer. He’s not one of us. He has no sentimental attachment to Goodison Park, or Everton for that matter.

Now BMD, and next season, is his baby and I’m sure he’ll make an appearance, or announcement, on day one. If not, then it will just show us we are part of his business portfolio ie just another brick in the wall.

Either way, as long as he invests in the club I don’t give a toss if he shows his face or not.

I’d pay to watch that, Jonathan. Maybe Don King could promote it.

Paul Ferry
38 Posted 22/05/2025 at 21:51:39
Obsessed 😂😂😂 Just doing my usual corrections. You gotta admit that post completely took you apart again.

Have you learnt the Z-Cars tune yet? You see, as a professional writer and interpreter of sources, cutting and pasting is just that, cutting and pasting.

Adding words, pay attention, is called interpretation. No words, it's cutting and pasting. You had a cracking weekend.

Tony Abrahams
39 Posted 22/05/2025 at 21:53:43
Agnostic Jonathan, you sound like you would make a very good referee, especially after reading the rest of your post@28 mate!
Jonathan Oppenheimer
40 Posted 22/05/2025 at 22:03:11
Ha, Tony, I am of course a referee, but this would be new ground for me.

To Mike's earlier point about the character of your club's owner and how it relates to their actual ownership, I wish I'd never met the guy who owns my local club. It's always there in the back of my head what a scumbag he is when I give him my hard-earned money and cheer for the team. (And to be fair, our team appears pretty competently run.) I will always be annoyed this asshole owns my club no matter how well we do.

But that of course highlights a big difference between many American professional clubs and football clubs around the world, where the people are the real owners, the “owners” just the caretakers and bank account. It's a bonus if they actually seem to care about wins and losses and the fans.

Paul Kernot
41 Posted 22/05/2025 at 22:12:13
Slightly different I know but the gutless NZ PM bottled out of going to Waitangi recently on what is a very important day in the NZ calendar. Instead he legged it as far south as he could get to another important location Incase he got a bit of stick at Waitangi (heard that before haven't we?). He should have been there. Simple as. Can't go back. You didn't show. You'll never convince me there was a good enough reason.
Tony Abrahams
42 Posted 22/05/2025 at 22:15:10
Jonathan to one of my earliest posts on this thread mate, and my own belief is that the man who supposedly really cared, only really cared about himself in the end.

It’s stupid really because all that money (what is made) can’t be spent when you have gone, and the only thing left behind is whatever legacy you leave.

I’m being honest and would have a dual ownership of Putin & Trump, if it meant Everton, started winning things again, and if we had those two, we wouldn’t be far off having as much power in the media as our lovable neighbours!

Danny O'Neill
43 Posted 22/05/2025 at 22:20:05
Paul, it will definitely have been penned by his PA.

I don't think Roma's 3 - 1 win over AC Milan was meaningless mate. They now go into the last game within a point of Juventus and a Champions League place. Ironically, they play Juve's city rivals Torino.

Maybe his Goodison decision was also swayed by leaving that to us? His focus will be on the new stadium and the future. That's just a thought, not knowledge.

I'm on the side that he doesn't need to be here all the time. As long as he shows face occasionally, I'm okay with that. This feels different from Moshiri. He has put people in place to run the club and will no doubt be keeping tracks on how it is running, like I'm sure he does with his other 20 businesses.

Those charged with running Everton will be held accountable.

I agree with the views that the summer will give us an indication of his ambition for Everton. Words are fine and welcome, but it is action that speaks.

Paul Ferry
44 Posted 22/05/2025 at 22:24:36
That's a very important point Jonathan (40):

"But that of course highlights a big difference between many American professional clubs and football clubs around the world, where the people are the real owners, the “owners” just the caretakers and bank account. It's a bonus if they actually seem to care about wins and losses and the fans".

You explained well there a gulf or a difference and others of your nationality would do well to try and understand it.

Mr. Friedkin probably calls us his "franchise". And if the world was the same on both sides of the Atlantic, he would not hesitate to move us to say Milton Keynes or Skegness if it put mor $$$$$$ in his deep pockets.

Mind you, Everton Skegness Raiders has a ring to it.

That fella sounds like scum. Glad you're rid of him.

Stan Grace
45 Posted 22/05/2025 at 22:50:23
Jonathan #35
"If the Paul Ferry-Mike Gaynes cage match needs to happen in between Chicago and the west coast, I’ll happily host it in St. Paul."
Can we please bill it as 'Ferry Cross the Mikey'?
Brendan McLaughlin
46 Posted 22/05/2025 at 23:02:34
Gaynes v Ferry "The Grumble in the Jungle"

Speaking of showdowns where is Barry Rathbone? I haven't seen him posting since he announced he was going to America and offered Paul a "straightener" whilst he was in the hood.

That's several weeks back.

Paul F... have you something to share?

Mike Gaynes
47 Posted 22/05/2025 at 23:03:16
Paul "Ferry", I cheerfully concede that nothing I post will ever touch, for pure joyous irony, your contribution to the Calvert-Lewin thread, posted as always (like your 12-year obsession of trolling me and your constant insults of others) while cowering behind an alias, or nom de troll if you will:

"The best place to end might be with Roger (80): “I think anonymity [on social media] should be banned, if you have an opinion, have the cojones to stand by it”.

I literally exploded in laughter so loud it startled the dog. That one goes straight into the Self-Own Hall of Fame. Especially the "cojones" part. Classic.

I know Z-Cars very well, thank you. (I even know how to spell it.) Why do you ask?

Derek Thomas
48 Posted 22/05/2025 at 23:07:50
Nice words to draw a line under season 24/25...yes I know we've a game on Sunday...ticks all the buzz words - I wonder who wrote it for them?

Anyway, we've effectively moved out, all the big stuff, sofas, beds, the boxes, are in the van, all that's left is the final clean for the new tenants.

But that's all it is - words.

Its Day 1; What we need to see, with baby steps in some cases if that what it takes, are Deeds!

Mike Gaynes
49 Posted 22/05/2025 at 23:13:34
Tony #30, no doubt, but won't our spending limits be dictated more by FFP regulations than by Friedkin's budget? I understand the system poorly, but from what I've read we can't just spend what we'd like.

I'm totally with you on the criticality of the planning. Our new CEO was pretty transparent about his plans when he was at Leeds, and I hope he is similarly open with us. Not knowing what's going on is pretty frustrating.

Mike Gaynes
50 Posted 22/05/2025 at 23:29:27
The Athletic is polling Everton fans on How Satisfied Are You With Their '24-'25 Season?

They offer a choice of Very Satisfied, Satisfied, Dissatisfied, Very Dissatisfied.

What say you, TW?

Brendan McLaughlin
51 Posted 22/05/2025 at 23:35:44
Mike #50

In terms of where we were and the impact Moyes made when he came in... very satisfied.

Is there a prize?

Paul Ferry
52 Posted 22/05/2025 at 23:57:10
Mike Gaynes, "obsession". You are deluded lad. It was PF this and PF that everywhere, wasn't it?, UNTIL your DCL great goal howler that you just could not manage, could you! Insulting! Remember what you called us that night! I'll continue to correct you when you get things wrong, like the two Sunday howlers. The problem you have is that I am much better equipped than you are to pick arguments apart and put an argument together with well reasoned rebuttals. My post on your desperate they were there post is textbook in that regard.

And on your attempted smarmy snide name comment. Water off a duck's back lad. A rather pathetic attempt. The people I care about on here know the full story about me, including my university advising us at the time when we signed up for media not to use proper names because of two cyber-attacks and the murder of a faculty member through trolling.

So, MG, enjoy your little minute in the sun, keep up the arrogant corrective tone of so many of your posts (I'm sure you've noted the comments on that), and, if you want, I can put up that LF post and many more similar from last year: "Hey PF that's a great sandwich. How much does it cost ... Wow, do they do takeout PF". And then the DCL great goal shite happened. Right?

Obsessed. Delusion. Is that really all you have got? Substance, Mr. Gaynes, substance. Try once to deal with arguments and prove them wrong. I mean, for example, I would welcome it if you took my post on they were there apart measured point by measured point to show how wrong I was, Mind you, there were a fair number of comments supporting me. Likewise, my post today on your corporate hero.

Paul Kossoff
53 Posted 22/05/2025 at 00:01:00
A rolling tear in the corner of my eye, a dab of my handkerchief, a quiver in my voice, a falter in my step, a moment of forgetfulness, a mist that drifts over my tearful eyes. Thank you Mr Friedkin, a true blue you are, just like the thousands of us you will surely fleece in the years to come of every penny you can squeeze from our shrinking wallets.
Mike Dolan
54 Posted 22/05/2025 at 00:05:08
Who cares if he was there or not last Sunday. He does not owe us his time maybe he had a commitment elsewhere ?
Who knows?
The only relevant thing that I can offer regarding TFG is that they seem to be very well organized and professional business managers.
Everton have needed this type of realistic impeccable management for such a long time.
I would say that you would have to go back as far as John Moores to find such impressive organization.
Some of you must live on the very edge of being constantly unhappy. Your entitled.
Why burden me with your miserableness though.
Paul Ferry
55 Posted 23/05/2025 at 00:07:01
Spot on Paul (53): but don't worry Paul he's just an ace corporate fella who we keep on getting told - as if this was sufficient for our culture - chooses not to communicate because he couldn't be arsed and is busy building his franchises. Good point about squeezing $$$$$ from us; let's see if ihe puts in enough cash over the summer to address our fundamental squad needs.
Paul Kossoff
56 Posted 23/05/2025 at 00:07:20
Mike and Paul. Now now lads, be nice. Words can't hurt you, be like me, water of a ducks back.
Suffer not the arrows of discontent, and the shards of cutting comments, let them fall and shatter at your feet
Into oblivion let them dissipate.
Be like a ducks back my friends.😀
Paul Kossoff
57 Posted 23/05/2025 at 00:08:41
Paul, I'm just worried about the cost of the burgers!😟
Brendan McLaughlin
58 Posted 23/05/2025 at 00:09:00
Mike #54

"Why burden me with your miserableness though."

You logged in and read the thread though?

Paul Kossoff
59 Posted 23/05/2025 at 00:14:17
Mike 54. Miserableness" is a noun that describes the state of being miserable, unhappy, or wretched. It can refer to suffering, hardship, or a lack of prosperity. Essentially, it's the condition of being pitiable or experiencing deep distress. check 1 2 3 4 5 6 and seven, yep. All traits of being a blue. And apart from future success, I wouldn't have it any other way.👮👮👮
Paul Ferry
60 Posted 23/05/2025 at 00:19:45
There seems to be an unbridgeable gulf here Mike (54) and that's all good and fine. The posts on this thread seem more or less evenly split. So, forgive me, but this is not an issue where any sort of general statement would satisfy everyone. There seems to be the hey-ho corporate strategy who cares side; and others who might well share some of that but would like to see support expressed in others ways too. No big deal. The world goes round on difference.

I'm more unsure about your chosen general characterisation of those of us who dare to hope that Dan might have piloted his own super Gulfstream G650ER jet (registered as N28UD) over the pond for a quick turnaround at John Lennon for what "he" called “a sacred moment in our club’s story”: "Some of you must live on the very edge of being constantly unhappy. Your entitled. Why burden me with your miserableness though".

Why "constantly unhappy" Mike? I see that a lot. It's so trite. Do you think that Dan not being there actually makes me or anyone else "unhappy". Trust me, from the horse's mouth, it didn't make me unhappy. I have many more things that matter more that I could actually get unhappy about. What does "Your entitled" mean Mike? Could you explain that? "Miserableness", Mike, seriously? It's you alone who burdens yourself with what you choose to read.

How did I do MG? 9/10?

Paul Kossoff
61 Posted 23/05/2025 at 00:24:42
Mike 50. Mike, we have to be satisfied, after the seasons we've had compared to this. We have to be glad,
Usually, satisfied, we aren't. Why? Well we just don't got none, do we? 😀
Mike Dolan
62 Posted 23/05/2025 at 00:31:39
I did Brendan. It just seems to me that if there is one man who deserves our absolute respect at this moment it would be Dan Friedman who paid so far hundreds of millions for the right to own this beautiful club. He has the absolute right to do any thing he wants on his days off so why the snide comments?
Brendan McLaughlin
63 Posted 23/05/2025 at 00:40:39
Paul and Mike

I get you guy's get a buzz off of it...but it's Sean Dyche like football on ToffeeWeb for the rest of us.

And I know you'll say "scroll on"...I have done but it fucking keeps coming back

Paul Ferry
64 Posted 23/05/2025 at 00:41:22
Friedman Mike? Respect. You call them "snide" Mike, I think that's a load of #!#*&#*@

"Snide": derogatory or mocking or insulting and contemptuous in an indirect way.

Do you see anything "indirect" on this thread Mike? I see zero that is snide in posts suggesting that it might be a good idea for Dan to have been there. Would you like Mike to go through this entire thread and give us an example of a "snide" remark against, I presume FRIEDKIN NOT FRIEDMAN. Nor do I believe that anyone insulted him or treated him with contempt. Perhaps you might show me otherwise?

How did I do MG? I'm thinking 9.5/10?

Paul Ferry
65 Posted 23/05/2025 at 00:45:07
I hear you Brendan, that's me done, although it would be appropriate for Mike to actually follow through - he seems good at giving - and answer a few respectfully put and reasonable questions. Out of my hands. No more words BM.
Mark Taylor
66 Posted 23/05/2025 at 01:00:43
I like the sound of a Mike G/Paul F cage fight but could they have the sequel in the UK?

Seriously guys. I know from what you both post, you are passionate blues and I think what both of you are ultimately saying is that (as I said earlier) emoting does not cut the mustard, it's how well the club is run and financed that matters. On that topic I am mildly encouraged by the new CEO if only because we finally have a real CEO, not a fake one.

Friedkin can always pop over for the opening match in the new stadium. That would be good PR. Hopefully he and his team have got a halfway decent team together by then

Mike Dolan
67 Posted 23/05/2025 at 01:06:35
Oh my lord Paul Kossoff. What a wordsmith you are. Whilst personally I couldn’t give a flying F. about your clever way with words. I have always tried to use my rather addled intelligence to express my opinions by using the fewest of them.
I was simply trying to to express simply, that a disproportionate number on this group are shall we say perhaps a little more melancholic and ungrateful. than let’s say your average contributor to any random fan club I have ever belonged too
Paul Ferry
68 Posted 23/05/2025 at 01:08:07
Thanks Mark (66). Feck, I thought that I knew my words. I work with words. But I had to look up "emoting". It's a good word and I think that you are being very fair Mark. There will be no need for a sequel.
Mark Andersson
69 Posted 23/05/2025 at 04:25:47
Apparently he used Ai to write his speech, he was going to attend the game but someone got him in a head lock demanding he give DCL a new improved contract.
Matt Traynor
70 Posted 23/05/2025 at 04:44:40
I'm agnostic about whether he attended or not. Who knows, he may have had an unavoidable diary clash, flying a Spitfire at some airshow.

If he and his team on site bring a modicum of professionalism, including ruthlessness, to what has been a shambolically run business for most of the last 40 years, I'll be more than happy. If that means he gets a return on his investment, he'll have done his job. As others state, maybe the emotional connection will osmotically build. cf. Dan Meis.

Because if he'd been "Rah rah Everton, the mighty Toffees" from day 1, I'd have been suspicious.

Oh and Danny #9, I have a variation of that condition called CDO. It's a bit like OCD, but the letters are in the correct order

Laurie Hartley
71 Posted 23/05/2025 at 04:54:43
Jamie # 1 😉 - glad to see your post.

I find the use of our motto “Nil Satis, Nisi Optimum” very encouraging. Dan Friedman has set the bar very high for himself.

We are moving into a wonderful new stadium and I for one want to give Farhad Moshiri a great big thank you for that. It cost him a packet.

So now the Friedkin group are in the fortunate position of building on the foundation laid by Farhad Moshiri. Let’s hope they build well.

I personally don’t care that he didn’t show up but I am very glad that our mad women Evertonians of all ages and their daughters did. It makes my “heart go boom, boom, boom”. There is something very special about that for me.

Jerome Shields
72 Posted 23/05/2025 at 05:24:35
I am quite happy with TFG.I do think that Dan has a affinity with the Club.It provides the right fit with their aspirations.I do think that Everton have finally turned the corner in the new owners they have. I for one I is am thankful that we are not getting fake DNA affiliation with or without a cap..Proper actions in running the Club speak alot more louder than a PR appearance.He is acknowledging the History and Evertonians part in it. .

After over 30 years of bullshit hope is very welcome.I personally have found the past tarnished by these so called do gooders who have jumped on the back of the good work of others in Everton in the Community.I have seen these bullshiters time and time again in organisations,

Thank you Dan for acknowledging our history and adopting our motto as your rallying cry, which you already are applying in your running of Everton.We are in a better position than we have been for years.Moyes was the right choice despite my reservations.I will be hard on Moyes, but he has pulled a few surprises for me.

Keep up the good and necessary work.

Paul Ferry
73 Posted 23/05/2025 at 06:28:04
Dear Lord. Jerome (72), I got this genuine fox fur worn by Marilyn on her last night out with Joe DiMaggio that I could let you have for £25 and, while we’re at it, only last week I was lucky enough to take possession of the bog roll that Elvis was actually holding – he’d ripped three sheets off – when he died on the bog, I could be persuaded to let you have it for say £65.

Pass me the puke bucket.

“Thank you Dan for acknowledging our history and adopting our motto as your rallying cry, which you already are applying in your running of Everton”.

Jerome, sit down, take a deep breath, Dan didn’t write that love-message and there is in fact a decent chance that Dan has never read it. I’m sorry Jerome, Father Xmas does not exist, and this is a piece of ghostwritten corporate obligatory fluff. Dan knows as much of our history Jerome as you know about Agnes Bowker from Market Harborough who gave birth to a cat on 16 January 1569.

Jerome, I’m sorry, your Dan doesn’t really give a shit about me, you, his cheerleader on here, or Dixie Dean. He is interested in $$$$$$$ unless he sees us as a philanthropic project.

One last question Jerome, can you give us the reasons/evidence for why you think that Dan “has a [sic] affinity with the Club”?

Danny O'Neill
74 Posted 23/05/2025 at 06:28:37
Matt, I'm terrible. I hang the washing out in size order. The pegs are colour coordinated; blue, white, yellow, green and then, if I have to, lastly, red, but I'm down to underpants and socks by then.

The volume on the tele and the car radio must be set to even numbers, even though the wife would occasionally change it to 21 when I wasn't looking just to wind me up. Similarly with the temperature setting on the climate control.

9 league titles; I want 10. 5 FA Cups; I want 10 and 6.

Paul K @53. Of course they are here to make money. I'm sure Abramovich was at Chelsea. They make money, we make money by default. We are the consumers. The alternative option is to not attend or not subscribe to the various TV providers that screen matches if we disapprove.

For a long time, we've bemoaned the club's inability to generate revenue to compete. Well, now I feel it's going to change. I hope they can strike a balance. There are all sorts of potential tiered schemes they could consider, but we'll have to see and it will involve more than the extortionate price of a hot dog with blue ketchup. I don't eat hot dogs by the way.

I think (don't know), that we will start seeing more of them at the new stadium. Goodison wasn't theirs, the new stadium is. Although fair credit, they've decided to keep Goodison and its heritage. I for one, didn't expect that. An indication that they are starting to understand the club.

It's early days, but looking at how they have managed Roma gives me confidence that we will finally be run professionally for the first time since Sir John. They are on the brink of Champions League and guaranteed European football next season with investment in a new 55,000 capacity stadium on the horizon.

Not him, but his representatives visited Goodison, the new stadium and our offices in our Liver Building.

I get the sense they mean business. They will get to know Everton and Evertonians. It will take time, but the message shows they are paying attention.

Mark @69. Be careful with AI. It isn't in a place where the media would have us believe. The term has actually been around since the 1950s, but AI as is currently used as a buzz word, is still in its infancy.

I thought I'd give it a go, using the MS Chat GPT. Instead of a letter to the council about council tax, it threw up a request for an appointment at a school parents night!! You will always need human scrutiny until machines take over the world. But we've been talking about that since I can remember. We just used to call them robots and daleks.

Danny O'Neill
75 Posted 23/05/2025 at 06:33:47
Paul, Skegness and Elvis bog roll in one thread. Brilliant.

You can take the boy out of Liverpool, but you can't take Liverpool out of the boy.

Paul Ferry
76 Posted 23/05/2025 at 06:37:18
At least someone appreciates me Danny 💙💙💙💙💙 Have a nice day mate as we Yanks say. I do agree with nearly all of your #74 in reply to Paul. Top post mate. My dad was in the Royal Navy for 22 years and did all the peg stuff and colour coded keys and fecking laid out shoes and fecking different coloured towels in the airing cupboard, and labels on this, that, and fecking everything. He grooved to Herb Alpert and the Tijuana Brass.
Colin Crooks
77 Posted 23/05/2025 at 06:52:13
Utter drivel from Dan Friedkin.

What is it about These rich born-with-a-silver-spoon Yanks that makes them believe the rest of the worlds population were born yesterday ?

post 63

"Its Dyche like football on Toffeeweb for the rest of us"

Oh the irony. At least Messrs Ferry and Gaynes have something to say and dont litter every thread with meaningless comments pedantically picking up on other peoples posts.

Danny O'Neill
78 Posted 23/05/2025 at 07:22:23
Colin,

His father served and trained alongside the Royal Air Force in WW2. His Grandfather was a Russian born Jewish tailor, so they are from humble beginnings.

Yes, they've made their way in life through innovation and business and their children were handed the platform they created.

I can't deny them that. Don't we all want better for our kids than we had? I do.

Andy Duff
79 Posted 23/05/2025 at 07:26:54
Interesting debate on here. When I was at the match Sunday I really didn't care if they were there or not. It was about my memories and saying goodbye.

Then you read this in the programme and you think about it in the cold light of day and really such a massive moment should have been acknowledged by the owners. A fluff piece in the programme is not great especially when you see one of them attended Roma.

I'm still kind of undecided, him not being there on the day in the moment didn't matter, it's only after you think maybe more should have been done. This debate would not be happening if the half arsed fluff piece had not been penned. Maybe saying nothing would have been better afterall.

I do wonder though if they see the new stadium as the start of the new era, and the start of them taking control and that's when we'll see them more

Andrew Ellams
80 Posted 23/05/2025 at 07:43:49
All of these posts claiming we now have the owner we need and deserve, how do people know this?

I mean he may take us back to the glory days of 40 years ago but so far, apart from a bit of a lazy and unimaginative managerial appointment he's done nothing.

Paul Ferry
81 Posted 23/05/2025 at 07:44:49
Colin, 77, I just can't believe that anyone with a worldly mind could take Friedkin's scripted specious shite at face value and deem it meaningful. But, apparently, those who do not are unhappy and miserable.

Colin, I've been here for 25 years mate. Trust me, most Yanks believe that 'merica is the world's greatest idea, experiment, country, democracy, and force for good in the world. I've been physically threatened more than twice for suggesting a more rational approach.

Most Yanks never leave 'merica but fuck me they understand the world. Friedkin is one of a long long chain of Yanks who treat the world as their corporate commercial hunting ground but dear Sheedy they adore and idolise European culture and want to be connected with it and its traditions. There's a reason why Yank universities are the only ones in the world to teach a course called 'The History of Western Civilisation' and that is in the words of the two profs at Columba who invented it in 1921 to claim that 'merica is in a direct lineage to the ancient European past. It's a meaningless and meandering course but it's 'merica, a 'modern' country of a little more than 135 years who have to justify themselves and USA USA USA - chanted in St. Peters like the Ryder Cup when Leo got the nod - and $$$$$$$$ are the main weapons.

They don't understand us Colin.

Danny O'Neill
82 Posted 23/05/2025 at 07:47:36
Totally Andy, I had no idea if they were there or not. It didn't even cross my mind.

Missed opportunity? In hindsight, possibly. As I keep saying, maybe they decided to leave the occasion to us, who have grown up with it since our first living memory that will last forever. Their focus will be on what's next.

Your last sentence says it for me. A new era in the history of this proud club and I'm sure they will be more visibly present.

I think saying nothing would have drawn equal if not more criticism.

Mark Murphy
83 Posted 23/05/2025 at 07:48:36
Sorry for the cut and paste but I don’t do instagram.
Talking of emotional goodbyes and how they should be done, here’s Sylvain Distins’ view:
I walked out at Goodison Park one last time.
Not as a player, but as a blue forever…

When I arrived in 2009, I came to do a job. I left with something far greater. Love, memories and a second home. Goodison gave me more than just football. The Gwladys Street, the Park End, the chants, the passion. You carried us when our legs were heavy. You demanded more, because you knew we had more. And I loved that, I needed that.

This place isn’t just a stadium, it’s a soul. For six unforgettable years, I gave everything in the royal blue, felt every tackle, lived every victory and carried every defeat.

Now, as the time comes to say goodbye to this sacred ground, my heart is full. Sad, yes, but also proud. Proud to have been part of Goodison’s story. Proud to have shared that pitch with warriors. Proud to have heard my name from these stands.

Goodison may fall silent but its spirit will echo through everyone that walked through those turnstiles. It’s not just the end of a chapter, it’s the celebration of a legacy.

Forever grateful. Forever Everton. Merci

Once a Blue, Always a Blue. 💙

Jim Bennings
84 Posted 23/05/2025 at 07:50:13
Time will tell regarding the new owners won't it.

Who knows how it will pan out but this summer will be a key factor I imagine.

To give Moshiri some credit, when he first arrived he did back the manager with substantial funds, it's just that he selected the wrong manager for the task.

I personally would have backed Martinez with the moneyband given him one season with it rather than appoint Koeman who basically screwed it up fantastically in summer 2017.

Let's see what happens this summer, should be a very interesting time.

Paul Ferry
85 Posted 23/05/2025 at 07:52:52
Andy - 79 - I do wonder though if they see the new stadium as the start of the new era, and the start of them taking control and that's when we'll see them more

You're not the first to say that but it's still a great point mate. Let's see if posters saying that they did not want to detract from the day by their attendance has any legs. And, as you say Andy, let's see if Dan is there on the first BMD game.

One thing I know for sure, Mr. Gaynes will be. scouring The Athletic on that day for a whiff of proof.

Andy Duff
86 Posted 23/05/2025 at 07:53:07
Danny thanks, we are starting a new journey, our history in the ground is about to be written. I could start another contentious debate. I'm just glad Kenwright was not there as he would have made it all about him and it would have spolit the day. Even Tim Cahill mentioning him wound me up a bit...

So given the choice of a no show owner or Kenwright I know which I prefer.

John Burns
87 Posted 23/05/2025 at 07:53:20
Mike 50. How satisfied are we with the season? I’m delighted we stayed up, of course, but I am very dissatisfied with the season. We experienced the worst football ever seen at Goodison, bottom 6 for most of the season, the rumours of further points deduction. Then, for me, there was the normal going into work on Mondays being tormented by the you knew who. (All out of towners, by the way). I also began to actually enjoying international breaks for a Monday respite!

Despite the end of season improvement, the season for me was horrible. Count me in the ‘Not Satisfied’ category

.I really don’t think we should ever be satisfied with a high of 13th. I know it could have been worse. We have to reset our mindset, or, reset our ‘ Nil satis nisi optimum’ motto.

Danny O'Neill
88 Posted 23/05/2025 at 07:55:19
Jim, he left the old guard in charge of his money. I don't think his intent was bad, he just gave his cheque book to the wrong people.

Mark. Stop it mate. I'm trying to focus on Newcastle on Sunday.

Seriously though, I saw that yesterday. Beautiful words from Distin. Another player I rated, but had friends and family, who were ready to pounce on any mistake he made.

Football and any sport is littered with mistakes. He was a very good player for us, and he obviously caught Evertonianitis as John Senior calls it.

Colin Crooks
89 Posted 23/05/2025 at 07:57:17
Danny @78

At the risk of you editing my post to make it say what you wanted it to say. Can I suggest you do a little research.

First research his father Thomas H then research his grand father Kenny.

I'm not really interested in your slight of hand by referring to them as "They" in order to portray Dan as a guy who came from humble beginnings. At the age of 35 he was handed keys to a kingdom ordinary people cant begin to imagine.

The archetypal silver spoon

Mark Murphy
90 Posted 23/05/2025 at 07:58:34
Mike @50
The correct answer is
Relieved.
Expectations for next season?
Optimistic
UTFT
Andy Duff
91 Posted 23/05/2025 at 08:07:44
Exactly Paul I reserve judgement until then. In the summer the team will have to be rebuilt. New team, new ground, new owners, new management structure new beginning..

If they continue to be hands off, fine then it shows they are just running us a business unit in their portfolio, but then they need to knock the sentimental shite on the head and stop pretending to care.

If they do genuinely start to take an interest great we might finally have owners that not only care but are also astute business people.

To be perfectly honest it has no bearing on my match day experience how I feel about the owners.

Everton has and always will be about the fans, without fans there is no Everton.

I'm still going to cheer when we score fume when at concede regardless, hopefully under their ownership the former is more prevalent than the latter

Danny O'Neill
92 Posted 23/05/2025 at 08:14:21
I didn't say that Dan Friedkin came from humble beginnings Colin, His family did, you can do the research yourself on that. I have. I'm not getting into a spat with you like I did yesterday, as it is wasted time, when we are broadly in agreement on most things. Yes he got handed an opportunity because of his family's prior hard work. I'll just leave it there Colin.

Mark, we've sat and stood together this season. We knew back in October that it was going wrong. We didn't care to admit it, and I was in denial. But deep down, we were heading to the Championship.

You know me well enough to understand my almost dismay when we re-appointed my second cousin. But he turned it around against the odds. Relief, but at least it came months before, not on the last day.

Now to Sunday and the future.

Paul Ferry
93 Posted 23/05/2025 at 08:17:38
Andy, 91, when we score I bet the first thing you do is look at the directors box mate! Of course you're right, it's about Andy Duff the fan/s. But I just wish that these Yank corporate only motivated by profit folk would not insult us with their avowals of our history, legacy, and culture. They are in it for the money alone and we were a pin on their global corporate map. But you're right Andy, let's give them a full season at the dock.
Eddie Dunn
94 Posted 23/05/2025 at 08:19:34
Personally I am worried about the new stadium.
I wonder how long it will take to sections of the ground to find their voice. Our ferocious support at Goodison has carried us through some turbulance, and I am worried that we will not be able to generate that intensity in a shiny big new arena.
I suppose it should be like when a favourite pub is taken over and given a facelift..the customers are still the same.
A good start is going to be so important.
Jimmy Carr
95 Posted 23/05/2025 at 08:32:29
Three things.

1. I think it's better our new owner didn't attend the game and of course his comms team wrote the message. Standard practice. Friedkin had very little to do with Goodison Park, so why attend as Sunday was all about nostalgia, I'd prefer him to be looking forward.

2. Sometimes I wish this site had an ‘ignore' feature.

3. In response to an earlier post, if Donald Trump bought into Everton I'd have to support a different club.

Paul Hewitt
96 Posted 23/05/2025 at 08:50:06
I know I said I was disappointed Dan Friedkin hadn't attend the last match, but some of the comments are totally OTT.

TFG has basically saved the club from oblivion and a bit of gratitude would be nice. I know its highly unlikely, but if they ever found this site they'd be horrified by some of the response.

Andy Duff
97 Posted 23/05/2025 at 08:50:26
Paul that's pretty much it. I couldn't care less but the whole sickly corporate stuff is not needed. Either you're in or out, but don't try con us with an article like this.

I wonder if the Friedkin comms team(let's face it probably penned it) follow Everton sites to judge how their messages are perceived. It would be funny if this thread made it's way to them.

'Hmmm… those Everton fans aren't stupid, what did we do wrong with our piece in the programme, how did they see through us?'

Let's do a follow-up piece, Dan the man, from humble beginnings to the world stage... just like Everton a small acorn that grew to a mighty oak etc etc.

Hugh Jenkins
98 Posted 23/05/2025 at 08:50:58
Paul (19). Like you, I have no doubt that the letter was "ghost written" by the PR department.

The thing is, we have been asking, for many years, for our owner to be a "hard headed business men".

Apparently, now, we have one, and as a general rule, they don't do "emotion", that is why they are "hard headed".
It wouldn't trouble me if Dan, or son, never physically visit Liverpool again, provided they guide Everton footbal club back to where we, the fans, believe we belong, ie, at the top of the Premier league and regularly contesting the Champions League etc.

Danny O'Neill
99 Posted 23/05/2025 at 08:59:28
He isn't personally from humble beginnings Andy.

Not you Andy, just in general, tell me a senior politician, high level military leader or CEO of a large corporation that doesn't have speeches and messages written for them?

I've penned them myself. They review, amend and approve.

I'm not sure why people are surprised by this. He probably has countless requests for approval put in front of him, or his PA team every day.

Random thought, the Silver Spoon is a dreadful bar if you get the wrong end at Wembley. I much prefer it when we are Green Man side.

Paul Ferry
100 Posted 23/05/2025 at 09:07:44
It wouldn't trouble me if Dan, or son, never physically visit Liverpool again.

Again, Hugh mate? How about for the first time mate?

Hard to disagree with most of your post mate

Colin Crooks
101 Posted 23/05/2025 at 09:08:02
We did not have a "spat" yesterday Danny.

You repeatedly claimed I had said something I didnt say and despite another poster advising you to put the shovel down, you kept digging and refused to hold your hands up.

You have tried to misrepresent me again today. The third time in a week - I let the first one slide.

I spoke specifically about the silver spoon Dan Friedkin was born with but you decided to change it to "they".

Ignoring the millionaire status of his arl fella you condescendingly tell me to do MY research and claimed he served in WW2 – it was over when he was 11 years old.

You would do very well to "Just leave it there", Danny. I may not be an academic, but I am not a fool. Don't take me for one.

Paul Ferry
102 Posted 23/05/2025 at 09:09:37
I've penned them myself. They review, amend and approve.

Fuck me, imagine Danny penning speeches for others.

Paul Ferry
103 Posted 23/05/2025 at 09:10:29
Not you, Andy, just in general, tell me a senior politician, high level military leader or CEO of a large corporation that doesn't have speeches and messages written for them?

Ghandi.

Andy Crooks
104 Posted 23/05/2025 at 09:12:38
When did club owners start to become celebrities?

Growing up, you knew the manager and the players. The manager was a guy in a suit who looked way older than your da and whom you suspected the players called "sir" or at least " Mr".

I'm thinking,Tony Waddington, Joe Harvey, Stan Cullis, Jimmy Armfield, Harry Catterick etc.

The players, even in the old pictures, didn't look young. The owners of the club were "The Board". A collection of shadowy figures whose role seemed to be to thwart the manager at every turn.

I think, sometimes, we know too much.

Danny O'Neill
105 Posted 23/05/2025 at 09:15:32
Paul, trust you to outdo me. You have to be careful on these pages!!

Colin, I haven't tried to misrepresent you. I would call it challenging you, as you have done so, rightly with me and others.

I hope we get to meet face-to-face. I am confident we would get on fine.

Andy Duff
106 Posted 23/05/2025 at 09:21:37
Danny there's many, it all depends how sincere they want to be. If they genuinely cared, they would write it themselves; if they don't, then it's just a box ticking exercise.

I genuinely couldn't care either way, the point I'm making is Everton fans are not stupid. We all care about this club, live and breath it, as most fans do. They need to up their game before we fall for articles like he posted.

As for humble beginnings, I have no idea about his history or care about it, I was making a point about the debate further up and if this was read by the comms team.

Regardless, I'm genuinely looking forward to the future for once. I've got my seat in the new ground, I do think we are now being run properly, we will be rebuilding the team.

If they turn up great, fair play; if they don't, just spare us the faux sentimental stuff and just look after the club.

Paul Ferry
107 Posted 23/05/2025 at 09:24:07
Danny, Benjamin Franklin as well mate and Mike Walker always insisted on writing his own spiel mate. And you're forgetting you clown, Trajan, the second of the 5 'good' Roman emperors. You're such a $%&@$*^%$#@ Danny.

It's dead late but semester over marking all done and I'm taking today off so one more glass. Loving this proper TW back and forth, unlike ......

Danny O'Neill
108 Posted 23/05/2025 at 09:32:20
Andy, once again, I agree. Who cares? He / they, will grow into it.

Enjoy Paul and speak later. I never mind being schooled.

Bobby Mallon
109 Posted 23/05/2025 at 09:45:53
There are some miserable fuckers on here
Tony Abrahams
110 Posted 23/05/2025 at 09:52:15
Great thread this. I'm getting educated, I'm smiling at some of the clever wit, and there's nothing better than seeing someone hit a six.

There's been a few crackers on this thread, and I'm being serious when I say that Paul F, has educated me a couple of times (not bad for a guardian reader) but I had post after reading Colin C, smash Brendan into the pavilion!

A virtual pub, is definitely better than a real one because I'm still struggling from all that ale I drank on Sunday, best described in the other Paul's post@59!

Mike G@49, none of us know how much we can spend but I still think this first window will tell us quite a bit about the way we are going to operate under The Friedkin's.

Raymond Fox
111 Posted 23/05/2025 at 09:53:51
Theres plenty back and forth on this thread in the last couple of days, I like it, Paul F and me rarely agree on much but he certainly livens the place up.

Andy @ 104, good post, your right its a different looking ball game now. I think it was more entertaining in them days.

Paul Ferry
112 Posted 23/05/2025 at 09:55:56
Name names, Bobby mate @109. Otherwise, that's a pretty well yellow post. Am I one? I'm excited.

Raymond, I know we clash but respect for you.

Tony, meeting you is on my pre-death bucket list. Can I come round for Sunday lunch at Dave's or is it Tuesday when you go round for tea? What a combo you are. Something I treasure about this site - Tony, who's picking the kids up.

Kunal Desai
113 Posted 23/05/2025 at 09:58:21
Billionaires mindsets and thinking is likely to work different from your ordinary person.

1. Does it work?
2. How well does it work?
3. Does it make me alot money?

Everything else is irrelevant. There is no emotional attachment.

Andrew Merrick
114 Posted 23/05/2025 at 10:00:55
Brian @10 says it for me.

Tony @42, we came close enough already, swerve that thanks!

Mike @50, of thosechoices, satisfied.

Mark @69, humour always welcome.

One more match, then just these threads to feed off whilst the dust settles and the new season emerges as the air clears...

James Hughes
115 Posted 23/05/2025 at 10:01:32
Jimmy #95, the site has three ignore options.

The X at the top of the page, the back-arrow, or the just scroll past option.

I use all three at different times

Dave Abrahams
116 Posted 23/05/2025 at 10:07:40
Andy (104), you could have wrote that post after looking through my mind's eye because that's exactly how I saw how our club, and most other clubs, were run when I was growing up.

Tommy Lawton told a story of how he went to see Theo Kelly, who was manager, about a pay rise. Tommy just went to the manager's office, opened the door and walked in. Before he could open his mouth, Theo Kelly roared at him “When you come to my office, knock at the door, and when I say 'Enter', you can come in — now go outside and knock at the door!”

That's the way it was — imagine players getting treated that way these days — there'd be nervous breakdowns all over the place.

Paul Hewitt
117 Posted 23/05/2025 at 10:11:47
PF@107. " One more glass". Looks like you've have enough already mate. 😆
Paul Ferry
118 Posted 23/05/2025 at 10:16:05
FAIR PH
Mark Murphy
119 Posted 23/05/2025 at 10:17:09
"Great thread this. I’m getting educated, I’m smiling at some of the clever wit, and there’s nothing better than seeing someone hit a six."

As a bowler I beg to fcuking differ, Tone!

I love opening TW around 7am every morning to read the carnage.
Vic Reeves often comes to mind - "You wouldn't let it go"!
UTFT

Jimmy Carr
120 Posted 23/05/2025 at 10:18:37
James (115) indeed, I do myself. However other sites have have more user-friendly ways to enable such functionality. That’s ToffeeWeb for you though, somewhat stuck in the dark ages, like Everton.
Mark Murphy
121 Posted 23/05/2025 at 10:23:36
PF - I reckon its 04.20 where you are?
Do you ever sleep?
ATB
Danny O'Neill
122 Posted 23/05/2025 at 10:29:21
Tony, you're supposed to be the sensible one. I had to drive the 400 odd miles, so had to lay off.

On a serious note Tony, and I speak for others, thank you for the lifts from Lime Street. And I always remember you going out of your way to venture south and pick me up from South Parkway.

A passionate Evertonian and follower of football, you always manage to put things into perspective.

Dave taught you well. Then again, I wouldn't argue with Dave. He knows way more about Everton and football than I could hope for!!

Paul Ferry
123 Posted 23/05/2025 at 10:31:19
Fuck is it Mark... alarm set for noon, taking tomorrow off, birds not singing yet, generous glass half full, jazz, you lot, Emily I hear lightly snoring in quiet jazz moments, feeling drunky happy, all marking done, not working until Monday mate.

And tomorrow or today evening we have a $350 discount coupon for one of Chicago's top restaurants. I mean top. The bill will be $700ish but we get half off that. COYB Chicago only yummy best.

Dave Abrahams
124 Posted 23/05/2025 at 10:39:44
Tony (110)

“I'm still struggling from the ale I drank on Sunday.”

Fuckin' knew it — stick to milk and drink plenty of it — you're a fuckin' nuisance on the other gear!

Ernie Baywood
125 Posted 23/05/2025 at 10:55:46
It's funny reading those words. They're really nicely expressed, say all the right things, hit the right notes and express all of the right emotions.

And yet they mean absolutely nothing to me.

Dan Friedkin doesn't think any of those things. How could he? And he didn't write it either - we know that!

That could sound like I'm being critical of him. I'm honestly not. I'm past the concept of an owner who has to prove their blue leanings. Run us well, Dan. That's what you want, that's what your investors want, that's what the staff want, and that's what we as supporters want. I don't care for his emotion, I kind of hope he has none when it comes to Everton.

And yet a YouTube video of a lone trumpet going into the first notes of a song I've heard a thousand times can still break me, days on from when it happened.

I genuinely think Sunday figured a few things out for me. The reason that clip gets me is because about 37,000 in the ground and thousands more around the world all authentically, genuinely and simultaneously felt the same things at the same time. It's so fucking beautiful. What else does that but this magnificent club?

Owner's statements can never come close and I really don't care. You do your job and you'll be alright by me.

Jerome Shields
126 Posted 23/05/2025 at 11:00:31
Paul @73

I was rereading my post which was neutral, with good grammar and a few extra words that I cannot blame autocorrect. I had achieved rebalance from my more extreme tendencies. Then I came across your technicoloured yawn post.

You seem to miss getting your ass licked by Kenwright & Co. Mike Ashley had a few beers with the lads, though I doubt he got all the conversation and then wondered why they were shouting at them, as if his life was in danger.

Far better to have an owner who doesn't beam blue with balloons with a hand in your pocket or talk to Jimmy White with a shit yawn.

The affinity is trying to run the club properly, something we have all wanted for years, and gradually getting to know us, which is more respectful. Not giving pullover interviews and dishing out sop, which was in fact was slop or do they call in broc (Any Broc) in Liverpool.

Andy Crooks
127 Posted 23/05/2025 at 11:02:51
Great stuff, Ernie.
Paul Ferry
128 Posted 23/05/2025 at 11:07:26
Read it ,Jerome. Utterly bizarre. Need to go to bed. Will respond later my day and it will not be hard to deal with you on skimming your lines.

Kenwright. 'You seem to miss getting your ass licked by Kenwright'. Dear Lord. Let me sleep and I promise to take you apart when I rise.

It will not be hard for me to do so. Choose your battles more carefully lad. ZZZZZZZ.

Danny O'Neill
129 Posted 23/05/2025 at 11:36:02
Your closing statement says it Ernie.

He isn't one of us, He never will be. We are shaped from childhood with no going back.

His words are nice and complimentary, but we will judge him on his actions, as others have said.

Had he said nothing, I suspect he would have come in for a lot more criticism.

Paul Tran
130 Posted 23/05/2025 at 11:54:20
For years, I've wanted proper business people running the club. For the last all too many years, I've been embarrassed by chairmen/owner coming out with vacuous, sentimental bullshit in an attempt to cover up their incompetence and ingratiate themselves with us. And in the latter years, the 'directors' disappearing and leaving Dyche to front the shop.

So now we have what looks like proper business people in charge, the likely initial price is that we read a lot of corporate gloss and business-speak. So fucking what? They'll never be Scousers, they'll never be real Evertonians, we know this is an investment vehicle for them, or any other wealthy owner, so why waste our energy on that?

He's put his money down, That's half of what matters. The other half is what he does with his investment. To me, that's more important than whether he shows his face around here.

Ryan Holroyd
131 Posted 23/05/2025 at 12:01:00
Paul you’re absolutely spot on.


Some of you sound like entitled kopites.

Paul Hewitt
132 Posted 23/05/2025 at 12:10:40
Off topic, but I see no Branthwaite again in the England squad. This could make him think of moving on this summer.
Brian Williams
133 Posted 23/05/2025 at 12:13:39
Branthwaite's injured.
Danny O'Neill
134 Posted 23/05/2025 at 12:14:21
Ryan mate, you often have some decent views, but one liners like that lack substance and leave you wide open.

It's probably an even split. The likes of myself who await with optimism and anticipation with how TFG will invest in and lead the club into a new era and couldn't care less if they were at Goodison with me and 37,000 others on Sunday.

Others think they should have been there.

That is a difference of opinion, nothing more than that.

I would refrain from labelling a difference of opinion as being likened to an entitled kopite at fellow Evertonians. Below the belt.

Just add more context, which you often do. Take or leave that advice.

Paul Hewitt
135 Posted 23/05/2025 at 12:15:45
So he is Brian. Totally forgot.
Laurie Hartley
136 Posted 23/05/2025 at 12:23:20
Bobby #109 – you have a certain way with words that appeals to me.

You're not a bad wordsmith either Dave.

Danny O'Neill
137 Posted 23/05/2025 at 12:23:30
I know it may have made no difference, but I thought he should have been taken off against Fulham when he went down for the second time in a few minutes.

It didn't look good then, and I'm assuming Sunday was a reoccurrence of that.

Not that it matters but it would have been good to have him to face Isak (if not injured or being preserved for a summer transfer) on Sunday.

Tony Abrahams
138 Posted 23/05/2025 at 12:24:40
I'm glad you acknowledged it was just a joke, Andrew, but I suppose some things are for people who are stuck in the dark ages!

Brendan McLaughlin
139 Posted 23/05/2025 at 12:38:36
Tony #110,

Never played nor really watched cricket but if Colin's comment is a "six"...seems like a very eas y game.

Stephen Vincent
140 Posted 23/05/2025 at 12:42:29
Dan Friedkin has one huge advantage over Moshiri, he doesn't have the world's greatest ever Evertonian schooling him. Let's be honest, though, he should have attended a huge milestone in the business he has recently purchased, nothing would have enabled him to get into the psyche of the club more than being there.

The guy is a business man – nothing wrong with that, I am looking forward to being able to buy EFC merchandise at John Lennon Airport or indeed just seeing our colours around the City instead of being eternally hamstrung by the ridiculous Fanatics deal.

TFG got a bargain when they acquired Everton Football Club Ltd. They got a team guaranteed to sell out the brand new ground (that they didn't build) every home game and with a substantial waiting list for season tickets, when they want to expand. They didn't have to put their corporate hands in their pockets to any great extent – The Grand Old Lady is still mortgaged to the hilt, just to different lenders at more favourable rates.

So yes they have made a reasonable start and I'm not expecting any eye catching signings this summer. Slow and steady wins the race, but he should have been there.

Tony Abrahams
141 Posted 23/05/2025 at 12:43:23
I used to stop the milkman at 4 o'clock in the morning for an ice cold bottle of sterry milk, Dave, but there's no way I could drink the shite they give us nowadays, even though it would be a lot easier for my body to shift the toxins!

One of my thoughts on Sunday was how much I used to love a cup of tea when I first went to Goodison Park, because they used to make it with Sterry Milk.

Speak to Mark, about bad bowling, Brendan, and get saving for your next visit to Liverpool and your first game at Bramley-Moore Dock!

Liam Mogan
142 Posted 23/05/2025 at 12:51:13
Something wrong with your taste buds if you like Sterry milk, Tony!
Mark Murphy
143 Posted 23/05/2025 at 12:55:39
I don't know anything about bad bowling - I'm steady Eddy line and length - but I couldn't drink steri milk if I was 3 weeks in the desert!

Yeuch! Do they still make it??

Danny O'Neill
144 Posted 23/05/2025 at 12:56:12
Take back the city, Stephen, and come out of the shadows.

Tony. Sterilised milk? My stomach has just gone back years and turned. My mother and aunties used to buy it because it lasted longer and didn't have to go in the fridge.

I could just about take it in a cup of tea, but on cereal, it was torture and when poured a glass, I used to sneak out and pour it down the drain and pretend I had liked it.

Dale Self
145 Posted 23/05/2025 at 13:18:12
What if Friedkin knows a bit of game theory and understands that True Evertonians would be sceptical of any prose he offered, only being convinced when business is done? In that case, having something penned for him, hitting all the right phrases, seems to be a rational use of his time.

By avoiding Goodison on that day, he may have saved us all from some nauseating, saccharine rehabilitation of Bill.

I liken this thread to the OFM turnaround. We were in the shit, decent posts as rare as Gana shots on target, and now we are getting back to form with new owners. Some friction in the locker room exists, but when the ball is in the midfield circle for that first match at BMD, we will have a match-ready squad of wordsmiths and windup artists.

Tony Abrahams
146 Posted 23/05/2025 at 13:29:59
That's what everyone used to say while they were pulling a face at me, Liam! (Mark and Danny, you both really surprise me.)

Ryan, I'm not being funny but can you please elaborate on your description of kopite behaviour mate? (Sorry I've just read your description again Ryan, but I'm not deleting my post because I think it's very important that people remember what KEIOC actually did for our club.)

"Outraged at everything but ashamed of nothing" was a perfect description, once written on a flag, but I saw someone when I was driving down Goodison Road last week, and during the Kenwright era, a lot of Evertonians described this fella's movement as doing or showing Kopite behaviour, and I still shudder at the thought that Everton nearly went to Kirkby.

Thank god we had those people in The Blue Union and KEIOC showing kopite behaviour instead of being gullible bastards like a lot of the Everton fanbase who were taken in by a complete and utter fraud.

Kevin Molloy
147 Posted 23/05/2025 at 13:47:48
That the Friedkins are competent and astute business people is not in doubt. That though does not necessarily translate into Everton being run well.

Hell no. Look at Man Utd, a superb operation. The Glazers have put not one penny in, and have drawn out billions. they will be on the front of every business magazine for the next 25 years. But their business acumen involves actually rinsing the club, and leaving the fans very unhappy.

We have no idea what the Friedkins will judge as success on the field, it could be anywhere from 'not getting relegated' to 'Champions League'. At this point, we can only read the runes, and they are not promising.

Old Pa Friedkin not getting to Goodison once shows he cares not a jot for the club. It's strictly business. And the recent weasel words of the new CEO, his target of pragmatic progress and 'making Evertonians proud' are also alarming.

We will know an awful lot more about their game by the end of the Summer by the gob on Moyes. If he's still making barbed comments about the Friedkins being able to 'see what needs to be done', then we can buckle up for a whole load of nothing.

People say it doesn't matter that Dan Friedkin wasn't there last week, and in one way that's right. But what it does show is that he doesn't care about what the fans think. He knows his non appearance will have raised eyebrows, and he thought 'who cares'.

Michael Kenrick
148 Posted 23/05/2025 at 14:23:16
Kevin,

"He doesn't care about what the fans think. He knows his non appearance will have raised eyebrows, and he thought 'who cares'."

Pure made-up shite of the first order.

You have no idea what he cares about, what he thinks.

Ian Wilkins
149 Posted 23/05/2025 at 14:37:54
An interesting exchange with some great posts but the reality is we are all second guessing the Friedkin's mindset with regards to Everton Football Club.

Not in question is that thus far they are running the club professionally and on a far sounder financial footing. Thank you for that.

The Summer and putting up the cash that our PSR position permits will certainly tell us a lot more. I think they will.
I suspect the silence will be golden so long as the club maintains an upward trajectory.

So I can do silence forever if it brings success. I don't hanker for front of stage celebrity status leadership. I've not heard anybody that does.

I would go with an arm's length show of affiliation. An occasional appearance, akin to JW Henry. I'm sure it will happen next season.

Jay Harris
150 Posted 23/05/2025 at 14:46:40
Tony,

You've started something with sterry milk. Maybe we should have another thread.

For the record I always thought it should be reported under the trades description act for calling it milk in the first place.

You have rare taste buds mate. I couldn't stand the smell never mind the taste.

Anyway back to TFG. I don't care that they weren't there at the weekend. Gone are the days when the likes of Sir John was religiously in the dressing room every game.

It is a much bigger game now and some investors prefer a lower profile and let their people do the talking while others can be in your face like "The greatest Evertonian" and look at how that worked out.

I have no problem with either approach as long as we are managed effectively and successfully.

Ryan Holroyd
151 Posted 23/05/2025 at 14:48:50
My comment wasn't aimed at you, Tony.

It was the people demanding Dan Friedkin turn up and that he doesn't care etc etc.

Ian Bennett
152 Posted 23/05/2025 at 14:54:07
I'd far rather an owner that puts in proper management and gets someone else to pen the programme, than having Moshiri and Kenwright.

A lovey and an interferer took us to the brink.

Liam Mogan
153 Posted 23/05/2025 at 15:28:19
Dan 'Maverick' Friedkin or Boys Pen Bill or Jim won't Fix it Ratcliffe or Evangelos 'Vangelis' Marinakis or Sheikh 'sports washing' Mansour or Vincent 'shoot from the kick off' Tan or Peter 'Shredded wheat' Swales… football owners are almost universally a strange breed of odd balls. God knows what they think or why they get involved.

What is apparent, though, is that we have been bought by a global corporate conglomerate, and messages like Dan's 'heartfelt' goodbye to Goodison will be the probably norm. Welcome to the franchise?

I'm still laughing at Tony drinking steri out the bottle.

Paul Kossoff
154 Posted 23/05/2025 at 15:52:21
Mike 67. No disrespect meant, I'm only trying to put light hearted slants in the posts. We have some very intelligent members on here with the Paul's and the Mikes, even my attempt at some Shakespeare's groans were only after I had eaten a Bacon butty.😀
Kevin Molloy
155 Posted 23/05/2025 at 15:54:16
I stand by the gist Michael, I would perhaps alter the wording to read 'will have raised eyebrows and he's not felt the need to offer any explanation' oh but on reflection, I can't know whether or not he felt any need can I?

We aren't allowed to infer intent from actions, we must not speculate. We must only offer opinions on the owners of Everton when we have concrete proof of their malfeasance. I am obliged for your courteous reminder.

Dale Self
156 Posted 23/05/2025 at 16:24:46
Damn Liam, I thought you might go Gino Vanelli on us there for a second. That unibrow was the standard.
Sean Mitchell
157 Posted 23/05/2025 at 16:42:45
Coudda, shoudda, wouldda.

He didn't attend. For what reason, we don't know.
Maybe he wanted the focus on the occasion and not him? Who knows.

If him steering the club in the right direction and to the top happens. Who'll care? We have to believe it can happen or what's the point?

His non-appearance will be forgotten about, when, not if, we eventually win something.

Watching Spurs win the Europa League should give us hope that it's achievable. Same with West Ham in 2023.
Even Palace have shown us how it's done.

Dan Friedkin will 100% want silverware for what it'll do for his ‘business'. His Roma won the Conference League not so long ago. He turned up for that!

Roll on the blue tide.

Focus is on Sunday and then a massive summer.
COYB.

Benjamin Dyke
158 Posted 23/05/2025 at 17:04:34
I couldn't give a monkeys if an owner attends games or not and I'm surprised people seem to care. Blue Bill was there and was a big fan and what good did that do?

The owners in my opinion should get judged on how they run the club and on field success. Either way, I couldn't be happier with what I've seen and read from them so far.

We're on an even keel for the first time in ages and we have an owner that has money to invest and a good track record. Plus I'm pleased they're from the US and not from elsewhere.

Jay Harris
159 Posted 23/05/2025 at 17:04:46
Paul,
Thats more like it Bacon butties instead of sterry.
Tony Abrahams
160 Posted 23/05/2025 at 21:45:09
You should try those two together Jay!

I wish I hadn't mentioned having a cold bottle of sterry, now Jay, because it's been on my mind all day. I just hope I don't wake up in the middle of the night, because I might end up going for a drive, looking for a milkman!

Seriously I used to open the bottle with my teeth (not easy - those bottle tops are a lot stronger than they are on a bottle of lager!) really enjoy that acquired taste, and then go home and sleep like a baby!

I'm fuckn dying for a bottle now😂🤦‍♂️

Peter Mills
161 Posted 23/05/2025 at 23:08:54
“My client awoke in the middle of the night and went for a drive, looking for a milkman.

I rest my case”.

And I don't know whether it's for the defence or the prosecution.

Paul Ferry
162 Posted 24/05/2025 at 03:21:22
Benjamin Dyke 158:

The owners in my opinion should get judged on how they run the club.

Match attendance or not could conceivably be one aspect of that Ben.

Danny O'Neill
163 Posted 24/05/2025 at 06:03:11
Tony, when in some of the more remote locations, we used to live on UHT milk, which is similar. The brutal bastard can survive up to 6 months without a fridge. Tastes awful on your wheetabix, which when the helicopters couldn't get to us was breakfast, dinner and tea for several days.

Information overshare. It wasn't as bad as when the water was cut off so the toilets wouldn't function. We had to answer the call of nature in shared bin bags and had a shift roster to empty them into the affectionately named "shit gobbler". If the wind caught you in the wrong direction, you ended up with brown freckles.

A diet of UHT fuelled Weetabix, no water and bin bags. The perfect storm.

Apologies, let's get back to milk.

Tony Abrahams
164 Posted 24/05/2025 at 08:43:52
I've been told off way too many people that there's no defence for drinking sterry milk, Peter, but I'd have suffered if I'd have been with your gang, Danny, because I hated it on cereal!

Good story though, Danny, it instantly took me to one of Dylan's greatest songs. He's the number one lyricist in my book…. Singing the answer is Blowing In The Wind!

Mark Murphy
165 Posted 24/05/2025 at 09:04:20
Ahh, the Ken Dodd approach to opening sterrymilk…

I bet Forest fans wish their owner didn’t turn up at games!

Danny O'Neill
166 Posted 24/05/2025 at 09:20:44
Mark, I was recently talking to a non-scouser who had visited Liverpool once and didn't realise it was an actual place. He just thought it was just some made up name associated with the diddymen.

I had to explain. If I've got my geography right, just off Queen's Drive, bordering West Derby and close to the nationally renowned Alder Hey Children's hospital that serves so many.

That Forest owner is a tool. Stay out of it. For all the talk, sometimes, owners are best left in the background, giving direction and leaving it to those they have trusted to implement.

Dave Abrahams
167 Posted 24/05/2025 at 09:33:07
Tony (164),

Those bottle tops on sterilised milk and lager were called jinks, by the way it cost me and your mam bleedin' Brewsters to get your teeth fixed because of your addiction to sterilised milk

Bob Dylan is your top lyricist? Didn't I ever tell you about Cole Porter?

Tony Abrahams
168 Posted 24/05/2025 at 10:40:49
WELL DID YOU EVAH?

I used to love that version of swell party, with Debbie Harry & Iggy Pop, even if I do prefer sterry milk, to French champagne!

John Wilson
169 Posted 24/05/2025 at 10:55:41
Dan has barely taken control of Everton, whereas with Roma he's had custody for about 5 years. We haven't even got our executive structure in place, and remember he has also barely registered the huge debts with his company.

Dan in short is barely through the door. He also wanted to ascertain that Everton will still be a Premier League team. Roma in contrast have won about 16 games on the run. If you were Ryan, which game would you want to attend?

Like others have said, it's not really important whether Dan flew his jet over and attended. Goodison ends an old era for a changing of the guard into a new Bramley-Moore Dock, Hill Dickinson era.

If he comes, he comes. We need him to run the club effectively and bring in players to compete in the Premier League, and be nowhere near relegation fodder, which is hardly an endorsement to want to be part of Everton in the sense of attending games.

If he's here to make money, fine — as that means we're successful.

Bobby Mallon
170 Posted 24/05/2025 at 15:04:20
Tony I liked sterry milk also and Dave is cole porter a sherry
Alan J Thompson
171 Posted 26/05/2025 at 09:08:22
I've just finished reading this thread and I was sure somebody said Dan Friedkin attended incognito.

He was seen standing on the corner by St Luke’s wearing a blue and white scarf and a pilot's hat shouting, "Any spares?" and later getting off the 82c at Speke airport.

Benjamin Dyke
172 Posted 26/05/2025 at 09:19:38
Paul Ferry 162 - yeah I agree with that sentiment but as to which ones they can and do attend it is up to them bearing in mind they have many other business and sporting interests around the world. I just felt Friedkin was being judged a bit too harshly for not attending this particular match even if it was a bit 'tone deaf' maybe in being the last at Goodison. I reckon they will see the people they have employed and the board as their representatives when they are not able to attend or choose not to.

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