Kenny Tete is the latest hot link on the transfer front

I hope this one comes to fruition

Yeehah!

However, it seems Walker also has a load of baggage due to off-field antics, putting his tackle around a bit, so take your pick!

No disrespect to the Fulham fans, but wouldnt it say a lot more if we were facing serious competition for the guys signature from other clubs ?.

I mean the Stoke fans used to think Charlie Adam was Michel Platini.

I never trust comments from people giving somebody elses opinion because they havent seen enough of the player themselves

Neither represent a massive upgrade in quality but certainly provide enough cover, especially compared to recent years. Hopefully we can spend what money we do have on RW who gives us much needed pace.

That comes from talking to good friends all over the country and sitting amongst them.

Also, watching with my own eyes.

It's all subjective and opinions.

If, and its still an if, this player comes to Everton, we can judge him in a Royal Blue shirt.

If and id

Totally Brent. Who knew what we were getting with Tim Cahill when we were second fiddle to Crystal Palace, who wouldn't pay his agent's fees?

Paul, if Gana stays and with Ndiaye, you've just upset my Christmas before the season starts mate. 💙 🇸🇳

Let's hope he hasn't got his dozy hat on and buys an Afcon player.

Fulham fans seem sad to see him go, feel like, when healthy, he's a top right-back in the Premier League. The sticking point seems to have been them not offering him the money or 3 years he wanted — possibly due to his injury record. They also have Castagne.

So we give him the 3 years, a fresh start, and if he stays healthy it's a savvy move. If he doesn't, well, we'll moan about it ad nauseum on TW! I like this move!

Sorry, but the only thing you are learning is their opinion? Unless you have seen them play, you can't give your own opinion. You can only give somebody else's. I see this every day. People giving long-winded reports about players they have never seen... I don't get it.

Oh and: "Totally Brent. Who knew what we were getting with Tim Cahill when we were second fiddle to Crystal Palace?"

Well the manager did for a start and he didn't need Millwall fans to tip him the wink. If you do a little research, you will see what a hostile reception he got from the Millwall fans when he went into the Den to check him out.

But he's also the fullback who was easily bypassed for our third goal last month. Watch the replay and you'll see he makes no particular effort to track Beto or get back in the play. Just kinda jogging.

He did a fine job frustrating Ndiaye for 93 minutes at Goodison last fall...

But he also made no special effort to prevent Ili's cross on Beto's dramatic equalizer, doing a little hippity-hop on one leg but offering no real pressure. Ili found Young with relative ease.

Mixed feelings on this one.

Let's be honest, he is a firmly bottom-half of the Premier League standard player. This doesn't mean he's terrible - it's just that top half sides all have someone quite a lot better.

Given Leeds have Bogle and Sunderland have Hulme, I think only Burnley (Roberts) would definitely have an inferior right-back to Tete.

I know he's got a handful of Netherlands caps but so have loads of players. They have a very patchy side.

And, yes, this might help us to spend money on other positions – but personally I think right-back is a position that is really worth spending money on.

I also included watching with my own eyes in my comment. I always prefer that when judging a player.

This one hasn't looked too bad when I've watched him.

Of course the manager did. I don't dispute or question that, but Cahill was set to sign for Palace before us. Millwall and Palace had agreed terms and a fee.

It fell through, we stepped in.

Danny, I told you... and don't believe the stuff you read on wiki. Its about as reliable as other people's opinion.

89 appearances in 4 seasons
13 clean sheets
28 wins
39 defeats
8 assists
2 goals
18 yellow cards

Like Mike G, I am luke warm on this one. Probably more Cuca Martina than Denzil Dumfries.

A low cost option, but wouldn't be expecting too much.

I still think Walker for a season is a better option. He's a better defender currently, and although wages are more, it's for a season vs 3 with this fella.

If he stinks the gaff out, you'll have him around for another 2 seasons till you get rid.

Good post that Robert @37. He would be an improvement on what we have from what I've seen and heard of him. Right back and the right flank are definitely the priority, whoever they end up being.

Mike @36, I don't think I'd like to face Ndiaye. His footwork would have tied me in knots.

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/2304714/cahill-deal-looks-off

And Timmy never mentions the Palace bid in his autobiography. Portrays himself as smitten with Moyes and focused on Everton only.

Re Ndiaye, you're right about his footwork, and you were a way better player than I ever was -- I'd never have gotten close enough to see it. But I'd still guess that when they watched the game back on Monday, Silva (himself a right back) probably scorched Tete for not trying harder to close down that cross. Giving a guy a free swing at the ball in the 94th minute would likely not have gone down well.

Even the only half-decent one we ever had ended up helping those bastards across the park win the league last season🤷‍♂️

Now prompted, I looked and found this. Hopefully it works:

Palace swoop for Cahill

I guess it's the same with any player, there will always be a few clubs in the mix.

Danny #46, yep, and I remember seeing an interview with the former Palace owner right after Timmy retired. He was still peeved that the deal had failed. Can't remember if he blamed the player or the agent, but it was clearly still stuck in his craw!

Update: Found it:

‘An insult': Simon Jordan explains why Crystal Palace didn't sign Everton favourite in 2004

We don’t even know what’s going on with Gueye, DCL, Keane etc…

I hope this works out as we are desperate for a right back.

Michael Jordan the Palace chairman had a right go at footballers agents then and was fined for his public opinion of them by the FA. He continued to have a go at agents throughout his time in football.

Very versatile, can play RB,LB and CB with good premier league experience.

As someone said not the best RB we would hope to get but on a free as a squad player its a no brainer.

It's fine either way.

However it happened, I'm just glad the boxing kangaroo ended up at Everton and not somewhere else.

Heitinga is an interesting one. Again, just from memory (for Colin) I couldn't make out if he was a defensive midfielder or centre back. I think he could do both.

Not too dissimilar to Jagielka, who came to us on a ticket of being a versatile defensive midfielder come centre back. Although I think Moyes sussed out quickly that it may have worked in the second tier, but in the top flight, he was a centre back.

Colin @49, agree with what you say. We have to wait and see, but we need a right back and if I was in the chair, that would be my priority.. It will just be good to have options.

Robert@37, I don’t think he’s firmly a bottom half player. Whoscored (obviously an imprecise tool) has him at #7 last season of right backs who played 10 games or more.

If it comes off I predict it will be one of our better moves this summer. Low cost, low risk move for a player who will definitely improve on our option. Very smart signing (so long as he stays relatively fit).

Sam, I think id take Tony Hibbert based on that. His agents done well to get a 3 year contract in my opinion.

Simon Jordan has spoken about this on Talk sport. The sticking point was Cahill's wages. Nothing to do with agents.

From the horses (Jordan's) mouth - "He was earning 4-5 thousand a week with Millwall. I'm offering him 15k a week and it was considered an insult"
"Those sort of things make you realize that you are in a different land with what you think is ridiculous or fair".

Jordan was to find out that even tight arse BK was offering Cahill higher wages.

The version Danny put up is the one being peddled on Wiki - "Crystal Palace ended their transer bid over payments to Cahill's agent".

In his book 'Be Careful What You Wish For' (p.224) he puts the blame squarely on the agent demanding a fee and says he agreed to pay the wages.

'He [the agent] told me exactly what he would accept for his client, which bore little resemblance to my offer. Despite an hour trying to find a middle ground I agreed to his terms'

'Then came the ludicrous demand for an agents fee of £150,000 for an hours worth of arguments. He expected me to pay for a deal that was considerably more expensive than I had wanted and hadn't given me a single concession. What I really wanted to do was give him a punch on the nose, not a bag of money'

'The deal fell through against a backdrop of recriminations in the press led by my outrage at agents and their demands. Everton had been looking at Cahill for some time and stepped in and bought him. In my view we were being used to flush out Everton and Cahill was destined to go there anyway.'

I read the Jordan one quite recently and remembered the story with it being Everton related.

Sam and Ian, I'm not concerned about Tete's injury history based on the knee problem after his clash with Gomez. It's more about his ugly-looking log of recent groin and Achilles issues.

I've still got enough in the memory banks and can look elsewhere if I need to look it up to confirm.

Keep peddling it off though mate. I'm glad I'm making your Sunday. Take care.

Nowhere does it say that the agents fee's scuppered the deal. Jordan expresses clear anger at them, but he is well known for that.

The 15k wages would have cost Palace well over 3m. The agreed fee would have taken their outlay to around 4.5m.

Are you really suggesting that a relatively paltry 150k ( 3.5% ?) stopped the deal?

We see one quote where he sites the wages for the deal falling through and although we know he is angry at the agents we havent seen a single quote where he says the their fee stopped it.

What we do know is that our interest was known about and and Kenwright was prepared to pay what Jordan wasnt. in other words...We were never second fiddle

I'm quoting what Simon Jordan wrote in his book. Nowhere does he say that wages were the issue. He states that he agreed to the players terms? He mentions nothing about the numbers you quote and says after the players terms were agreed the deal fell apart once the agent demanded £150k?

What he says on Talk Sport, I have no idea, I don't listen to it.

You put this debate to bed for me. All this shite about "my mates who support other clubs are usually reliable"

it's utter, utter bollocks. Imagine a fan of another club coming on TW to get the low down on DCL..

He would leave the site not knowing if he was snorer, scorer, Arthur or Martha.

And of course we would all be "reliable sources".... We watch him every week, don't we?

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There's a good 18 off my head I'd put ahead of Tete. I'd put Walker, Hickey, Castagne, and Lampety ahead as well.

A squad signing, and perhaps allows us to call time on Patterson.

'The deal stalled and the atmosphere became very tense. Martin [the agent] suggested I ask Theo Paphitis, the Milwall chairman, to pick up some of his fee. I phoned. Then in amusement, already knowing the likely outcome, and held the phone from my ear as he screamed obscenities down it, questioning the parentage of this agent!'

This is then followed by the paragraph, 'The deal fell through'.

The whole incident is covered by around 250 words in the book and wages are never mentioned for the deal falling through.

Who is better though? Calvert-Lewin or Beto?

Colin is always right, you should know that by now!

Bob Dylan said that. Although he was probably wrong also!

Who talks to opposing supporters on ToffeeWeb, apart from the odd one who pops up to talk about other things?

When I refer to supporters of other clubs, they are friends I've played football with, known for 20-odd years and most are season ticket holders or regular attendees of their respective clubs.

I don't mind asking or considering their opinion.

So, if we are going to buy any young, progressing, promising players from lower placed teams teams, that will tend to happen earlier.

We will have to wait for the bigger spending teams to see who they find surplus once they've splashed their 100s of millions and need to recoup and sell. Then we can see who we fancy.

I'm expecting a few earlier in the window then a flurry late on!

Is it Teet, Tettai, or just Kenny?

Err... No. Not every week.

He's often not selected, because he's not all that good. Or he's injured.

I’d agree that most of those RBs are better. But most of them would cost £20m+. Not so sure on Walker, Lamptey and Silva picked Tete over Castagne mostly when both were fit. Tete the best option on a free to my mind.

I didn't realise Tete was a crock until reading some articles this afternoon. If we sign him he's going to be squad player for the next 3 years. While we need a bigger squad, we should always be aiming to bring in better than what we have. Is Kenny Tete better??

"Ranking factors
While compiling the top 15 list, the following was taken into account:

Longevity
Form
Trophies
Goals
Assists
Defensive ability
Clean sheets
Individual awards

One of the most quietly consistent full-backs in the Premier League, it's about time Kenny Tete gets the recognition that he deserves. Averaging almost two interceptions per game in the top-flight in this 2024/2025 season, that number actually ranks him first among all right-backs in the competition. His reading of the game and anticipation is second-to-none and he has also done a fine job in going forward and supporting the likes of Alex Iwobi in attack.

An ever-willing runner, Tete's cleverness and street smarts have made him an integral part of Marco Silva's side, and it's no surprise that the Cottagers look far more defensively assured when the Dutchman is patrolling the right flanks like he usually does. And, when you factor in that they usually say, availability is the best ability, Tete is pretty much always there".

An odd choice. Availability is the best ability, yeah right.

We’d be lucky to get him

Tete reminds me of a Lars Jacobsen kinda signing: Will do a job but won't do anything spectacular. At the end of the day he's a free transfer and RB isn't a priority, so he'll do as long as we also sign 3 or 4 that will go straight into the first team.

Certainly availability is not his strong suit!

I actually think right back IS a priority signing especially as it’d be great to have a settled back four + with modern full backs we need them to be able to attack as well as defend

I am sympathetic to concerns over fitness but we could have an injury with anyone we sign (Gbamin & Bolaise weren’t previously injury prone and we were unlucky; Delph & Dele DID have injury issues and remained a problem;)

Remember we took punts on Arteta and Pienaar in the past and they paid off and even one of our greatest midfielders Reidy had injury issues (I think) as did the fearsome Andy Gray and they worked out

EVERY signing is a risk for different reasons but this guy can play. If he hits his stride we’ll all be pleased

I'm certainly not anti signing him, but would have preferred Walker for a season then buy someone for a decent fee who should walk into the team next summer.

Why would he want to leave, why would Fulham let him go? Answer, he's just turned down an offer from Fulham to stay, apparently.

This from Goodison news. David Moyes to cancel Kenny Tete transfer’ after Everton agreement apparently Moyes is having second thoughts because of Tetes injury record that's seen him miss 60 games since 2020.

Hope that's not true. Also, where does Tarks

and O'Brian fit in? back five?

I remember when we were interested in Joleon Lescott, many Clubs, were deterred by his 'knee injury history' at Wolves.

We gambled, and won, he went on to be almost an ever present, and we made, but squandered, a tidy profit om his sale to Man City !

He'd come in be our 1st choice RB straight away and between O'Brien, Coleman, Garner and Patterson we would have cover.

Anyone not sure about him or don't really know him have a quick look on it Fulham fans forum - it's pretty much universal that they'd be gutted if he goes.

If true that's RB sorted for a few years in my view.

Not really Si #15i but it just means that should he have too many injuries we can't move him on, he sits in our treatment room for 3 years and produces nothing but expense.

It's going to be his last EPL contract, I was hoping we'd move away from pension fund top up deals, so I'd rather have a 25 year old, or another Seamus.

Add to the Fulham supporters’ feelings of near unanimous approval whatever data and metrics there are, and it seems pretty clear to me this would be an astute signing. As others have noted, he could be an injury waiting to happen, but on a free, given where we are as a club, I’d take him over Walker for sure, and nobody has convinced me that Walker-Peters is a better player.

Let’s splurge the cash on a winger and central midfielder. And if Tete isn’t the answer in a year or two, we can look to splurge there too. But we all saw what happened when we spent on young Nathan Patterson a few years ago. Sometimes the 29 year-old is the smart move.

I don't know enough about the quality of the player to comment but the genius you refer to mostly got it right if you take the position in the table into account. I'll also gladly be happy to be classified as one of the lunatics on here.

Coleman will be lucky to finish 90 minutes this season, Patterson has been here more than 3 years yet still feels like someone I had know what he looks like yet alone if he's good or bad.

Tete is an upgrade.

Just someone who is being touted about. If only he was 25 and as impressive and professional as reported.

I'm not always right.

For example I thought putting up evidence about Kyle Walker getting a number of individual awards including him being named young player of the year was supporting my argument that he was doing better for Spurs than Tony Hibbert's understudy was doing for us. Clearly I was wrong.

Evidence and sound argument will never penetrate fingers in the ear "It's Shite!!!" logic.

Lesson learned though.

You also thought Alcaraz wouldn't sign this early either!!!!

Now what was his name?

But they are not too fussed about him leaving because him not being available with injuries and his age — it's not going to improve.

This is so Everton. Injuries!

If we can get 25 games from him, I'll be happy because brien, coleman or Garner can cover him.

"One of the best right-backs in the league, but will almost certainly be injured for at least half the games. Has averaged about 20 games a season for us in his 5 years, but if he wasn't injury prone, he'd be playing for a better team than Fulham or Everton!"

As one or two others have said if we can get 25 games from Tete he will very likely be regarded as a decent signing. The fact he has Premier League experience reduces some of the risk around his playing ability.

If it happens this feels like a signing to bolster the squad which needs depth as well as an upgrade in standards.

It wasn’t long before a large percentage of the crowd knew the answer to that statement, although it was clear that the kid wasn’t a bad player, (imo) he was just another bad signing!

So are Jarrad Branthwaite, Pickford, Bruno, Richarlison, Van de ven, Delap …

I had doubts before we signed him based on his performance against Manchester United in the 2017 Europa League final in which he was anonymous. I assumed, mistakenly as it turned out, that Koeman knew what he was doing with a player from his home country.

He basically admitted after he left that he had doubts about Klaasen being able to adjust to the PL, but still gave the go-ahead for us to sign him for £25m.

The amount of money he wasted was an example of the passive disdain he treated Everton with. Their were many more examples.

Klaassen wasn't a bad player, just not suited for English football. He proved himself in Holland and Germany, where his game was more suited.

And he joined Everton at the wrong time given what was going on.

Wrong player, wrong club, wrong league and always looked a bit shell-shocked at times.

Too many wrongs.

I never saw any kind of style developing under Ronald and his soulless character was the last thing Everton needed (alongside the man mentioned above) when we were supposed to be moving into a bright new era.