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Jack Grealish on loan could cost Everton £12m

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Everton have been strongly linked with Manchester City’s Jack Grealish in recent weeks. The England international is high on the club’s shortlist as a statement signing for the upcoming season at their new stadium at Bramley-Moore Dock.

However, getting Grealish, even on loan, won’t be a simple task. 

Reports emerged earlier this week that the Toffees had made contact with Manchester City to explore a potential deal for Grealish. However, speaking on The Game podcast, journalist Paul Joyce of The Times said that it wasn’t really the case.

“What was surprising about this one was that it was presented as if Everton had contacted Manchester City on Wednesday. That wasn’t the case,” said Joyce.

“There wasn’t contact between the clubs on Wednesday. There had been contact between the clubs previously and Everton know the situation with Grealish. Man City are looking for as much wage recoupment as possible.

Joyce also went on to say that signing Grealish on loan for a season could cost Everton £12m. Grealish, a former holder of the most expensive British transfer record, earns £300,000 per week at City.

“The numbers don’t put them off, but other factors need to be taken into consideration,” Joyce added.

Everton have more pressing concerns before they kick off the new league season with a trip to Elland Road to take on newly-promoted Leeds United. The side still needs wingers and £12m is a substantial sum to be spent on a loan signing.

The Blues recently bought Kiernan Dewsbury-Hall for £29m, including £4m in add-ons, from Chelsea to reinforce their midfield.



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Simon Jones
1 Posted 08/08/2025 at 09:39:45
If we don't, someone else will.
Trevor Powell
2 Posted 08/08/2025 at 10:15:54
Considering the cash we have wasted over the last few years, £12 mill seems a pittance if he is successful and he helps to promote the club as a place to be playing. He has to prove himself with Tuchel for the world cup squad next year, so if he should be well motivated by that alone!
Get it done and it's his chance for at least on last WC dance!
Geoff Lambert
3 Posted 08/08/2025 at 10:27:23
So that's £3 million less than the transfer fee we paid for Maupay. Get it done ASAP will make the clubs profile much higher for other prospective signings.
Colin Glassar
4 Posted 08/08/2025 at 10:29:34
If he can get us into Europe it will be money well spent.

How much did Maupay cost us? Now he can’t find a club to take him. Karma?

Derek Knox
5 Posted 08/08/2025 at 11:49:05
Colin, " If he can get us into Europe it will be money well spent."

Is that a new Night Club that has opened recently ?

Still not totally convinced, approaching 30, probably lost a few yards, why Pep has virtually dropped him like a hot potato, if he was that highly rated by him once, what has happened since ?

Stop quibbling over Dibling and get the kid in !

Anthony Dwyer
6 Posted 08/08/2025 at 12:44:27
If Dibling is Moyes main target why not put the extra towards securing him as a full buy without add on clauses or sell on clauses, Grealish would improve our 11 for 1 year, then what ? We won't be able to keep up 300k per week.

Dibling is obviously one Moyes feels can start now for us and he will continue to do so for the whole of a 5 or 6 year deal.

Wouldn't do anything with Grealish for anymore than £150k pw max, and I'd keep an option open to return to sender at xmas/Jan window if he's not up to it.

In reference to what Maupay cost imo that's just crazy, we basically threw money away on him and many others, being stupid in the past does not justify being stupid with our money now.

Colin Glassar
7 Posted 08/08/2025 at 13:20:33
Derek, I’m convinced Pep has ruined Grealish, like he’s doing with Foden and some other players. These are players who need a certain amount of freedom to express themselves. He tried to do the same with Aguero (goal hanger) but Aguero continued to bang in the goals and Guardiola had to relent.

Pep revolutionised football with his Barca and Man City teams but he’s become fossilised in recent years and teams have sussed him out. He’s too rigid these days as shown last season.

Grealish might have lost his mojo but I still think for 12m he’s worth the risk.

Steve Brown
8 Posted 08/08/2025 at 13:25:05
Ndiaye Grealish Dibling.

Come on, that is exciting.

Robert Tressell
9 Posted 08/08/2025 at 13:29:10
I’d be surprised if this is a goer anymore.

If he plays RW, he pushes Ndiaye into the no 10 spot (so far so good) but pushes KDH and Alcaraz to the bench.

If he plays AM, Nidiaye resumes his usual position (again so far so good) but pushes KDH and Alcaraz to the bench.

I get we need squad depth, but this would be an odd way to use about £50m plus of our kitty.

In fact it robs us of depth because it duplicates unnecessarily in positions we’re already strong in but would leave us light in positions lacking players / cover.

There are plenty of other fun players to get as loans cum vanity signings - other Grealish style leftovers at Rich 6 clubs etc. so maybe more likely we go that direction.

Steve Brown
10 Posted 08/08/2025 at 13:39:10
Robert, Sky Sports reported 23 minutes ago that we have approached Man City about signing Grealish as though it was a new scoop.

I don’t mind Grealish on loan as he can play LW, No.10 and RW. He gives us options across the front line and allows us to concentrate our remaining budget elsewhere. Even if we signed Dibling, we would probably need another RW signing as back up. Grealish signing makes this unnecessary.

Unfortunately, I don’t think a deal for Dibling looks a goer now to be honest.

Robert Tressell
11 Posted 08/08/2025 at 13:45:43
I see the point Steve but (a) Sky talk a lot of bollocks and (b) I just don't see Grealish playing right-wing. For what it's worth Transfermarkt say he's only played 17 games there is his entire career. I think Moyes would switch Alcaraz or Ndiaye there before resorting to Grealish.

I agree Dibling might not be a goer either though.

Robert Tressell
12 Posted 08/08/2025 at 14:02:48
Here's a few daft loan options if Grealish doesn't work out:

- Sterling
- Nkunku
- Odobert
- Nwaneri
- Anthony
- Zirkzee
- Richarlison

And these are just forwards from the Premier League. Plenty more besides…

Steve Brown
13 Posted 08/08/2025 at 14:15:03
Yes Robert, Sky will report the same thing as breaking news tomorrow.

That will be followed up with a story that the deal has hit difficulties as it is “complex”, then that it has fallen apart as the clubs are far apart in their valuation of the player.

Finally, Sky will be quoting a “bemused” insider saying that the clubs never held talks.

Robert Tressell
14 Posted 08/08/2025 at 15:05:40
Sounds about right Steve.
Colin Glassar
15 Posted 08/08/2025 at 15:16:46
I see TalkShite are saying our Stubbsy tapped up Jack while they were both out on the lash in Marbella a few weeks ago.

After a few Coronas, and a strawberry daiquiri, Jack signed a letter of intent (to sign for us) on a piece of bog roll that Stubbsy had in his pocket (for emergencies).

A contract is a contract. Welcome aboard, Jackie lad.

Paul Kossoff
16 Posted 08/08/2025 at 15:19:09
£12 million, for what? five goals, maybe five assists, If that helped us get into Europe or he wins a cup for us then obviously worth it. If not, what's the point? Whole thing seems to me an American owner Hollywood signing. Rashford has just gone to Barcelona with all of his wages, £350,000 a week being paid by skint Man Utd. Please God the new owners aren't another Moshiri Kenwright, Laurel and Hardy double act. What's next? Moyes sacked and a Hollywood manager coming in, Koeman, Mourinho? Get a young hungry winger in for the right wing, not a 29 yr old, been there, done that, multi millionaire dodgy attitude for the left. Leave well alone, barge pole and don't put your fingers in the fire springs to mind.
Colin Glassar
17 Posted 08/08/2025 at 15:30:06
Paul, just out of curiosity, who would you buy? I get the impression you like to be a contrarian. I may be mistaken but it’s just my impression.
Danny O'Neill
18 Posted 08/08/2025 at 15:32:53
Paul @16, I said early on that the Grealish could be coming from the owners more than Moyes, although he will have had a say.

Slight pedantic correction, Barcelona are paying all of Rashford's wages after he agreed to take a pay cut.

Last season, Villa were paying 75% of his wages for the several months he was there, so about £250k per week.

Derek Knox
19 Posted 08/08/2025 at 15:34:57
Colin 15, it didn't say whether it was a 'used' piece of bog roll or not !

In other words it is probably a load of shit ?

Colin Glassar
20 Posted 08/08/2025 at 15:42:41
Derek, knowing Stubbsy (and I do from a long way back), it was probably used. My mum and Mrs Stubbs were good mates back in the day. We used to call Alan, snotty. Figure it out😉
Paul Kossoff
21 Posted 08/08/2025 at 15:43:53
Danny," Last season, Villa were paying 75% of his wages for the several months he was there, so about £250k per week." £350,000, £250,000 a week, ( the poor lad.)what's the difference to a multimillionaire? Hardly worth pointing out, other than an over rated, lazy man, is being paid obscene wages, and despite the fact he's vertually useless, that someone is stupid enough to want him. Going back to the whole point of the post, it's a bloody wonder that we weren't in for him!
Paul Kossoff
22 Posted 08/08/2025 at 15:51:41
Colin, contrarian me? So Grealish to Everton is a popular opinion is it? Oh, I didn't know that, silly me. Who would I buy? I would buy a right winger, not a left winger, that's my opinion. Someone who can cross the ball to our untried £27 million center forward. And yes I usually don't dive head first in to the waters of popular opinion, people tend to get soaked doing that.
Paul Kossoff
23 Posted 08/08/2025 at 15:59:00
If Everton can afford to throw £12 million in the bin for Grealish, then why not put that money to paying Southampton £50 million for Dibling, instead of hypocritically saying that's too much. Southampton are saying, if EVERTON can throw £12 million at Grealish, they are obviously not skint, so let's ask for more.
Kevin Molloy
24 Posted 08/08/2025 at 16:00:47
cos we want both Paul, and no doubt will as a result end up with neither.
Paul Kossoff
25 Posted 08/08/2025 at 16:04:51
Colin, Rafael Leão, Khvicha Kvaratskhelia, Nico Williams. For starters all better than your fav boy Grealish.😁
Paul Kossoff
26 Posted 08/08/2025 at 16:07:38
Kevin, just one q. If we mistakenly get Grealish, where does McNeil play?
Andy Crooks
27 Posted 08/08/2025 at 16:09:42
Paul, I don't think any Premier League player is virtually useless.

Also, your post @16, brought to mind the Sam Goldwyn comment, "I don't want the same old cliches, give me new cliches!"

And, I do think you are a contrarian. Having said that, I think you don't do "dull". Keep it coming!!

Ian Bennett
28 Posted 08/08/2025 at 16:10:10
Leeds, Burnley, Sunderland, Southampton...
Kevin Molloy
29 Posted 08/08/2025 at 16:12:03
Paul, McNeil? pardon my French but if he's lucky enough to be selected he'll play where he's told.
Paul Kossoff
30 Posted 08/08/2025 at 16:19:17
Joke time. A man comes home from work, walks up to his door, looks down and a snail is in the way, he kicks the poor snail out if the way and goes in.

A week later, a knock on the door, the man opens the door, no one there. He looks down and the snail he kicked says, "What the fuck was that for???"

Paul Kossoff
31 Posted 08/08/2025 at 16:23:01
A day 27. "I don't think any premier league player is virtually useless."
Holgate, Chermiti, Patterson, oh and Grealish.😁
Paul Kossoff
32 Posted 08/08/2025 at 16:26:13
Andy, sorry, bloody useless tablet.

You said I "don't want the same old cliches, give me new cliches" but that's the problem with Everton, it's always the same old same old, isn't it?

Colin Glassar
33 Posted 08/08/2025 at 16:34:42
Paul 25, we couldn't afford even one of those players toe nails.

And McNeil btw, decent squad player that he is, isn't good enough to wash Grealish's left foot.

James Marshall
34 Posted 08/08/2025 at 16:47:41
I haven't read the thread but £12M for one season seems alright doesn't it? Ludicrous I know, but if you imagine we had him on a 3-year contract and the fee was £36M to buy him, plus wages, then this would be considered a good deal?

Or am I missing something?

I say we should do it – as I said on another thread, having a player like Grealish isn't just a good signing on the football front, but also a good marketing signing for the club as a whole.

We need to raise our profile to match our new stadium and new direction and culture – that to me means signing established star names recognised across Europe and the world. Like him or loathe him, Grealish is that.

John Keating
35 Posted 08/08/2025 at 16:50:39
Absolute joke!

£12M for a season and even half his wages! Nonsense!!
We have to get a grip here. Makes no sense whatsoever.

Some saying "If he gets us into Europe" etc etc. No, not for me. I'd sooner get young players in and take a couple of seasons to build a more sustainable squad.

Rome wasn't built in a day!

James Marshall
36 Posted 08/08/2025 at 16:54:58
John @35

Tyler Dibling at £50m on say a 4 year contract = £12.5m a year so same same isn't it?

As Moyes said - we need elite names in our elite stadium.

Liam Mogan
37 Posted 08/08/2025 at 16:58:03
McNeil will get loads of game time even if Grealish signs, as Jack will need plenty of downtime for muscle injuries (aka hangover recovery).
Ed Prytherch
38 Posted 08/08/2025 at 17:07:49
As for Grealish playing only a small number of games on the right it is that same number of games more than Pirlo played at deep central midfield before he moved to Milan.
John Williams
39 Posted 08/08/2025 at 17:27:37
It's a no-brainer. Grealish will get spectators buzzing and I believe create chances and that will get us into a better league position. That can attract players in the seasons to come.

Dibling is more likely a slow burner, maybe not a regular starter and, as I have said earlier, if he is supposed to be that good, Everton would not be in the frame. The big boys would have snapped him up.

Peter Hodgson
40 Posted 08/08/2025 at 17:51:09
I thought we had become a more sensible an outfit now that we had new owners and Moshire had exited stage left. This talk of us taking on a footballer, who we don't know if he still can still perform for 12 months at a crazy cost of £12m or so, tells me that we haven't changed one bit.

Yes we need a winger. The lad a Soton may be the answer. Okay he is going to cost about £50m plus wages BUT he is ours and as such can be sold on if we make something of him so the actual cost is unknown and may well be NIL/PROFIT.

That is a sensible way of looking at it, so I just can't see the point of spending £12m on Grealish and encouraging the likes of City & Co to continue splashing out on players and wages that only they can afford.

James Marshall
41 Posted 08/08/2025 at 18:01:21
Grealish = good marketing. Raises our profile. Attracts other big name players. Changes the view of Everton as a football club from the outside. I firmly believe this is the way to go in order to get us noticed and stop thinking like a small-time tinpot outfit as we have for the last 30 years.

Culture shift. Stop all this local thinking. It's time for a brave new world.

Remember when City bought Robinho - he was a catalyst.

When have we ever bought young players and had them change anything at the club in the short or long term? It never does anything because they never play - look at Chermiti as a recent example.

Nobody gives a shit, he never plays, he might as well not exist.

Jake FitzGerald
42 Posted 08/08/2025 at 18:04:16
He's on the Man City contract until 2027.

I can't imagine City wanting him back after he's had a year with us - a year older and still on £300k a week. There's a deal to be done there.

Billy Shears
43 Posted 08/08/2025 at 18:08:29
The lad is simply the quality we need so badly... Get this loan deal done please, Blues... raises our profile massively too!

If we don't act fast on this one, others will!!!

Scott Hamilton
44 Posted 08/08/2025 at 18:15:23
There are too many amateur accountants on this site.

TFG are not gangster bagmen like our last owner and I trust them to understand the club's finances. If they think spending £12M on the wages of a player that, on his day, is one of the Premier League's finest, is okay, then that's good enough for me.

Mike Gaynes
45 Posted 08/08/2025 at 18:26:04
Peter #40, Everton's total payroll last season was £74M. Tell me why you think another £12M is so crazy.

It's tip money for our new owners.

James #41, I'd nominate Jarrad and Jake as young players we bought who have made a massive difference.

Charles Brewer
46 Posted 08/08/2025 at 18:38:08
From a pure insurance risk point of view, £12M for one year (if that's what the actual cost is) who gets crocked, is a significant improvement on a 3- or 4-year £50M contract for someone who turns out to be a dud.

I still think Dele Alli was the worst football buy in history. Not just a lazy parasite but an obnoxious one who poisoned the dressing room while refusing to play.

Now, while I'm sure Dibling wouldn't prove as catastrophic as Alli, in recent times there have been quite a few "one season wonders" – Rashford, Bellingham, Nunez – who have proved very expensive "bets on youth".

Dibling for £20M for 3 years (he played for the spectacularly shit Southampton last season and scored virtually no goals, how good can he be?), and Grealish for £12M for a year sounds more rational to me.

Andy McGuffog
47 Posted 08/08/2025 at 18:52:34
Charles Brewer. Obviously Alli was a failed gamble.

However, the only poison being spread emanates from you.

Craig Harrison
48 Posted 08/08/2025 at 18:55:01
The lazy parasite had a documented history of mental health issues prior to us getting him from sours. If hazard a guess the only reason we did get him is because he was damaged goods. The parasite also save our premiership place against palace.
Ajay Gopal
49 Posted 08/08/2025 at 18:55:09
There could be multiple solutions to the 300K/week wage problem.
1 hypothetical solution - everyone takes a cut of the wages: Man City pay 125K, Everton pay 125K, Grealish gives up 50K. Man City might agree because that is 175K/week = 9 million in wages off the books, for Everton 125K/ week = 6.5 million for 1 season doesn’t break the bank, and Grealish takes a 2.5 million haircut out of his 15 million wage packet to help him get to play regularly and a shot at the World Cup. And if he does well, I mean really well, like ‘10 goals + 10 assists’ well, then it would make sense for Everton to agree a 3 year deal at 200K/week, for example, which would cost the club 30 million in addition to any transfer fee agreed with Man City, which I imagine wouldn’t be too high. All hypothetical, I know, but the point is that sensible solutions could be worked out.
Ben King
50 Posted 08/08/2025 at 18:59:43
Charles #46

Bellingham 1 season wonder???? Turn it on son!

Ryan Holroyd
51 Posted 08/08/2025 at 19:04:10
Mike - that wage figure is totally wrong.

Look at the club accounts and the wages bill is well over £120M.

Brian Harrison
52 Posted 08/08/2025 at 19:07:09
This move will only happen if the player wants the move.

Maybe when other clubs find out what deal Everton have struck with Man City, then there will be more interested parties, I am sure.

Jake FitzGerald
53 Posted 08/08/2025 at 19:08:21
Rarely have I seen so much ale house gibberish crammed into one post as Charles Brewer’s. Quite a feat.
Mike Gaynes
54 Posted 08/08/2025 at 19:08:25
Charles, that's just garbage. He didn't "poison" anything.

That sort of venom is inappropriate.

Liam Mogan
55 Posted 08/08/2025 at 19:28:41
“To be honest, I had a night out with Jack in the summer over in Marbella. I tried my best to get him to Everton. I was telling him how much he'd be loved."

Alan Stubbs doing his best to play down Grealish's party boy rep.

Colin Glassar
56 Posted 08/08/2025 at 19:44:00
Scott 44, some sense on here at last. The last accountant we had turned out to be more unreliable than Al Capone's.

These yanks just might know what they're doing (money-wise) so let's leave the penny counting to them and get on choosing our starting XI come 1 September.

I'll start….

Jake FitzGerald
57 Posted 08/08/2025 at 20:04:46
True, Colin.

In the last 10 years we've had 7/8 of them with Viv Nicholson in charge of finances then a screeching reverse to Poundland budgets — it's no wonder we're not up to speed with realistic Premier League finances.

Mind you, I don't think any footballer should be of any more value than a Ford Focus.

Ian Bennett
58 Posted 08/08/2025 at 20:05:02
If you're a professional accountant, can you comment then?
Andy Crooks
59 Posted 08/08/2025 at 20:06:52
Jake, " Viv Nicolson"?
Respect!!
Bobby Mallon
60 Posted 08/08/2025 at 20:31:02
Just pay his wages; he's class.
Dave Abrahams
61 Posted 08/08/2025 at 20:43:39
James (36),

Yes, we do need elite names to play in our elite stadium but those elite names have got to be able to play consistently. Let's be honest, there is a big doubt whether Grealish is still able to turn it on — a very big doubt, I would think.

Andrew McLawrence
63 Posted 08/08/2025 at 20:59:15
Not sure what version of Grealish has some people drooling.

I see someone that falls over in a stiff breeze, invariably slows play down, and looks like he can't be arsed most of the time.

Makes Sterling look like George Best.

Stuart Sharp
64 Posted 08/08/2025 at 21:27:51
Andrew, I'm one that's excited (perhaps not quite drooling). I get the potential frustration, but the Grealish you describe is hardly someone Guardiola would break transfer records for.

I see a player who would get me out of my seat, who can leave defenders looking embarrassed, and yes, who can buy a foul when it's needed. And a clear upgrade on what we have.

Sam Hoare
65 Posted 08/08/2025 at 21:50:46
Lots of people talking about marketing and brand and bigger players wanting to join us but is that really true. James Rodriguez was a much bigger name in world football and his joining us didn't seem to move the dial greatly. People just see a fading star who's had to drop a level.

I've little interest in Grealish's profile but, if he's motivated enough to help get us into the Top 10, then great. If he's able to turn back the clock enough to get us into Europe, then that really does help move the dial.

I'm not sure how realistic that is this season which is why I'm more tempted by developing stars for the future but I'd be delighted for Grealish to prove me wrong.

Paul Kossoff
66 Posted 08/08/2025 at 22:31:25
Colin 33.

"And McNeil btw, decent squad player that he is, isn't good enough to wash Grealish's left foot."

But Grealish is right-footed, why would he want his left foot washed, he never uses it.😁

Jake FitzGerald
67 Posted 08/08/2025 at 22:39:52
Comparing Rodriguez to Grealish is a bit of a false equivalence, Sam.

Grealish would probably see Everton on the same traditional level as Villa in a way Rodriguez wouldn't give a shit about, and I can see Grealish given an unleashed freedom he didn't have at City which he'd relish – a last chance for him to prove a point that he's a generational talent that just got stymied in Pep's single-minded machine.

I've gone from Grealish-cynic to thinking – if I'm playing for Everton, would I love it if Jack Grealish joined? Of course you would.

Colin Glassar
68 Posted 08/08/2025 at 22:46:54
I’ve put my foot in it again, haven’t I, Paul?😉
Scott Hamilton
69 Posted 08/08/2025 at 23:02:35
Paul (66),

Isn't that Colin's point? He could've replaced “left foot”' with “darts arm” or “German shepherd” and I think we would've understood what he was saying.

Christine Foster
70 Posted 08/08/2025 at 23:09:05
Sam, I beg to differ.

Ancelotti and James Rodriguez were a marketer's dream, far bigger than the actual effect they had on the team, which is a different matter.

But their appointments raised the profile of the club world wide, especially in South America, didn't we light up a few skyscrapers and sold a zillion shirts (mostly fake because of our crap deal).

In our position, I would have taken a few aging world class stars instead of Harrison, Broja, etc... but it's more of an indictment of Moshiri that got us into Hail Mary territory in the first place.

Anyway, water under a bridge. Hopefully it won't be too long before we have current world class players contemplating joining us!

James Marshall
71 Posted 08/08/2025 at 23:24:22
James Rodriguez came to us during Covid so nobody got to see him play – there was less fan fervour as a result. I see the comparison, but Covid put a massive dampener on him being an Everton player.

We can all make a case either way, and not one of us is right – which is all the rage on social media and sites like this. The desire to be right about everything. But at the end of it all, we just have opinions and views on all things for the most part – especially transfers.

It definitely does get people interested though, doesn't it? You have to admit that – not just Grealish but Everton get more press pages, more social media traction and therefore our profile goes up.

If we spend the same money on a young up-and-coming player, nobody cares, nobody talks about it and therefore our profile doesn't get raised.

You might not like the idea of Grealish for many reasons – he falls over, he gets pissed in Marbella, he wears a hairband or whatever other reason you pick, but it's a fact that a player like Grealish will, does and is already raising our profile.

Neil Copeland
72 Posted 08/08/2025 at 23:28:13
Scott 69,

I think Paul realised that already and was taking the piss.

Ernie Baywood
73 Posted 08/08/2025 at 23:46:35
Many seem to be missing the point that the £12M quoted is wages at £300k per week. It's not a loan fee. We would never pay that much per week.

Let's say we offered £200k per week. That's about £8M for the season. Then consider that we have to have numbers in the squad anyway and we'll probably loan someone if it's not Grealish.

The alternative is that we could go and loan a fairly average player for £50k a week. That's already £2M just to have coverage in the squad.

So do you gamble an additional 6 million for the year on Grealish being good, or take a squad filler?

I think it's a 50/50 decision and comes down to whether City would accept sub-200k per week and whether Moyes sees him as a key player.

I actually think he fits a Moyes style. Start wide and fill or drift inside is pretty much the Moyes way. Can take a set piece too.

Colin Glassar
74 Posted 09/08/2025 at 00:47:24
I’m seeing some interesting rumours on my Twitter feed that Everton will make a major announcement tomorrow before the game.
Steve Brown
75 Posted 09/08/2025 at 01:26:13
Moyes gone already Colin? Didn’t take long.

Ted Lasso to replace him.

Sam Hoare
76 Posted 09/08/2025 at 06:12:02
Jake@67,

I'm not necessarily comparing their effect on the pitch just what it does for Everton branding wise and in terms of attracting other players. I think Grealish is in better physical condition than Rodriguez was and so could hopefully contribute more.

Christine@70 yes the skyscrapers etc made for good visuals but did it actually change much? Do we sell millions more shirts in South America? Did we get bumper revenue deals? Did we attract any top class players? I would again suggest it didn't really move the dial significantly and that only really happens with success on the pitch.

Janes@71 again I'm not sure that some more newspaper articles and clickbait social media links really helps us hugely. It won't get more coverage than we got for being docked points. We got a lot of online coverage when Rodriquez signed but it came to little. There was some fanfare when Gazza signed for us but only because he was a celebrity. I'd say it's fairly meaningless and even potentially unhelpful.

The only real consideration is what he can do for us on the pitch which is a hard thing to predict. If he is able to reach the heights, get us up the table and get back into the England starting XI then that definitely becomes more helpful of course and maybe that's plausible.

Justin Doone
77 Posted 09/08/2025 at 12:14:13
I'm positively surprised most posters agree this would be a good deal.

Much like monopoly money, football money is ridiculous and I don't get too caught up in it so to keep it simple.

Does Grealish improve the first team? Yes.
Can we afford £12M for a season, aprox £230k a week? Yes (I believe so).
Is it too much of a gamble or risk for a season? No.

Get it done!

Geoff Lambert
78 Posted 09/08/2025 at 12:20:04
Grealish and Dibling unveiled just before kick-off, Colin??
Mark Taylor
79 Posted 09/08/2025 at 12:43:26
£300k a week would compromise our wage structure (such as we have one). I don't think your average footballer and his agent will buy the argument it's a one off for a season.

You can see differentials matter. It might be different if it was a proven world beater but Grealish is a risk on multiple levels. If Man City were okay with us paying him £150k, then maybe.

I'd much sooner we got a right-winger and right-back in sharpish. And I'd sooner we used Dewsbury-Hall as a yardstick for value, not Dibling.

Dan Nulty
80 Posted 09/08/2025 at 13:37:41
Now Maddison is injured, I fully expect him at Spurs.
Eric Myles
81 Posted 09/08/2025 at 14:24:54
Jake #67

"I can see Grealish given an unleashed freedom"

So you're expecting that Moyes will be replaced as manager the day Grealish signs?

Jake FitzGerald
82 Posted 09/08/2025 at 14:30:34
Thought I might get picked up on that, Eric.

“Slightly leashed” might be closer to the reality.

Bill Watson
83 Posted 10/08/2025 at 00:08:07
If it costs £12M to have Grealish on loan for 12 months, it would, hopefully, help us achieve a higher Premier League placing which would cover some, if not all, of the cost.
Anthony Dwyer
84 Posted 10/08/2025 at 00:11:58
Anyone think Greenwood worth a punt?

Natural goalscorer, natural right-sided player, scored goals in the Premier League, done well in France.

I get he has a past but let's be honest, most footy players are gobshites, he's still with the same girl and has a kid by her.

Moving on, he's about 23 years old and has big potential to take us forward and/or move on for a profit.

Just a though.

Martin Berry
85 Posted 10/08/2025 at 12:49:28
Grealish has to go somewhere, he has to play football, that's his job. Is it at Everton? Most likely — if he doesn't want a family uproot. I think it will be done and dusted this week.

As for £12M loan fee per year, if on a 3-year contract, then £36M for him would still be a bargain with no sell-on likely.

As for wages, does the loan cover them? Also, bear in mind all the players off the books that were not having to pay wages to, ie, Doucoure's and Calvert-Lewin's would probably cover Grealish's wages.

Ryan Holroyd
86 Posted 10/08/2025 at 13:04:13
Jack Grealish is now in agreement to join Everton on loan with talks over the financial structure between Everton and Man City continuing...
Jake FitzGerald
87 Posted 10/08/2025 at 13:14:35
Decent of him to do business on a Sunday with a raging hangover…
Steve Brown
88 Posted 10/08/2025 at 13:36:41
Bit harsh, Jake.
Raymond Fox
89 Posted 10/08/2025 at 17:15:07
Injury free for the season and he will most probably gain us a number of points so in that context £12m is not too expensive, especially if we are scrapping near the bottom once more.
James Marshall
90 Posted 10/08/2025 at 19:28:35
It seems Jack Grealish is the only footballer who goes out and gets pissed.

I bet there are no others at all. Not one. No, no other professional footballer in the world gets pissed. Ever.

In fact every single player at Everton is teetotal.

And that's a fact.

Neil Thomas
91 Posted 10/08/2025 at 19:41:06
James #90
Well getting pissed didn’t stop the skill of Gascoigne or Best
Joe McMahon
92 Posted 10/08/2025 at 19:49:22
Neil@91 and James, a long time ago admittedly but the goal machine Jimmy Greaves liked the odd tipple.
David West
93 Posted 10/08/2025 at 19:52:50
Don't get what people's problem is with him on a year loan ??

We are not paying a big transfer fee, we are getting a quality footballer. If it doesn't workout we've tried, if we get half the jack grealish at villa, he's our most creative player !

Moyes was good at identifying talented players who had lost there way a little. Pienaar & Arteta spring to mind.

He may just want to be somewhere where he is the main man, well he has to prove he's not the party boy and he still has the desire to play in this league.

The upside far outweighs the downside in my opinion, what's the downside we pay half his wages and he's only as good as Jack Harrison?

Worth a go !

Dave Abrahams
94 Posted 10/08/2025 at 19:53:10
Neil (91) I don’t think alcohol helped George Best otherwise he would have lasted a lot longer than seven years as world class player which he was.

The same with Paul Gascoigne although injuries didn’t help him as well his drinking habits.

Ed Prytherch
95 Posted 10/08/2025 at 19:53:54
cheap shots are easy to make. Not much thought required.
Rob Halligan
96 Posted 10/08/2025 at 19:54:05
Dixie Dean was known to have the odd tipple now and again, even on a Friday night and spending the night inside Goodison Park to sleep it off. Didn’t seem to do him any harm either!
David West
97 Posted 10/08/2025 at 20:00:45
He's hardly at the Best or Gazza levels, come on !
These were hardened alcoholics, there's a difference between that and being a bit of a party boy !

I don't remember pep actually saying he's not training well or unprofessional.
Yes his level may have dropped, but citys level is sky high.

Also they didn't exactly do that well last year when he didn't play.
Would they have done better with him starting more ?
Just saying !!

Alan McGuffog
98 Posted 10/08/2025 at 20:01:13
James, 90. And that is the root of all the problems.
The mid eighties side would have left Oliver Reed in their wake. Trebles !!
Kevin Naylor
99 Posted 10/08/2025 at 20:02:27
There's loads of YouTube clips where he has a lot of time for disabled kids (I believe his sister is) that's another side to him that doesn't often get reported.
Ian Jones
100 Posted 10/08/2025 at 20:20:28
Alan, if only that side could have managed trebles, one double was all they could muster...😀
And yes, Jack Grealish has a sister with cerebral palsy.
I imagine quite a few players do alot of unseen work outside their training/playing duties, as no doubt do alot of ToffeeWebbers in their spare time, most of which, if not all, doesn't see the light of day which is a pity.
Jake FitzGerald
101 Posted 10/08/2025 at 20:54:47
Who said getting pissed or having a hangover is a bad thing?
Danny O'Neill
102 Posted 10/08/2025 at 21:02:57
Rooney was another renowned for his off-the-pitch habits.

As Dave says, with those two great players he mentions, I think Rooney would have lasted longer at the top level if had looked after himself better.

Paul Hewitt
103 Posted 10/08/2025 at 21:24:15
I couldn't care less if Grealish gets pissed every night. If he comes in and makes us successful, that's all that matters.
David Currie
104 Posted 10/08/2025 at 21:30:42
Rooney played 16 years in the Premier League and about 14 years for The England National Team!!

A lot of people forget that he started his career at the top earlier than most!

Danny O'Neill
105 Posted 10/08/2025 at 21:42:12
I don't think you'll find many who disagree with you, David. We all know and have often pointed that as well as what he achieved. No-one can dispute that.

My point is that he could have gone on longer at the top level.

Ryan Holroyd
106 Posted 10/08/2025 at 21:46:59
Didn't have a bad career, did he, Danny?
Danny O'Neill
107 Posted 10/08/2025 at 21:50:36
I think that's what I've said consistently, Ryan? He had an outstanding career that many will struggle to match, and you could see it straight from the start.

A shame we didn't see enough of him and couldn't hold onto him longer, but he was always destined for the top. Sadly, when he came back, the legs were gone. A shame really, as he was still only 31/32?

Don Alexander
108 Posted 11/08/2025 at 00:18:42
I have as a close friend a man who played international rugby union for England and a successful British Lions. He liked a pint or plenty but when "professionalism" emerged in that sport all alcohol was proscribed by the management of the time, the visible net result being that my mate and everyone else in the sport improved no end, eventually becoming world champions.

My mate wasn't ever paid much but he's lauded to this day as a rugby union legend.

Booze and brilliance are incompatible ...... just ask my wife.

Mike Corcoran
109 Posted 11/08/2025 at 00:23:23
16 years at the very top of his game for Rooney. Best English (and Scouse ) player of his era.
Mike Corcoran
110 Posted 11/08/2025 at 00:26:36
Could have played any where on the pitch(bar goalie) and would’ve still been the best player on the day.
Mike Corcoran
111 Posted 11/08/2025 at 00:30:31
Get Grealish done. If they are only paying wages then probably same price as
Jack effing Harrison
Mike Corcoran
112 Posted 11/08/2025 at 00:31:55
And Lindstrom combined
David Currie
113 Posted 11/08/2025 at 00:45:09
Absolutely, Mike!

Danny, Maybe he could have but the type of player that he was and all the running that he did probably caught up with him. I loved him in a 10 or 9 but he was sacrificed too many times in a wide position.

Danny O'Neill
114 Posted 11/08/2025 at 07:12:07
David @113, that could well have been a factor. I was responding to the lifestyle theme that possibly contributed. And by no means am I comparing him to Gascoigne or George Best.

I sometimes wondered if he had a position David. He used to pop us everywhere, looking for the ball!! But yes number 10 was his best position. He wasn't an out and out striker.


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