Everton lose out on Danjuma as Tottenham hijack 'done' deal

Not sure this one can be blamed on the club as apparently contracts were signed and media was done etc.

Strange one as he won't get much time at Spurs and could have been a hero here. Richarlison fancy a loan back here?

A multi-million pound Premier League club ran like a Sunday league club, no wonder we don't believe we can survive in the Premier League this season.

Sorather than having a little space to het some transfers going ‘M’ has once again constipated the club with his incompetence

Money only buys you so much then it’s down to real acumen.

NSNI - No sense, No intelligence!

How can anybody defend the board, they are utterly incompetent.

Genuinely, what a complete laughing stock we are.

Another agent is just worried about his fee, not the player’s future. This is a cutthroat world and our amateurs (Walker, Madison, Maguire and Robertson etc…) are just not up to task.

Let’s just throw in the towel, bite the bullet and hope we can reorganise in the championship under a new board and owner.

As for the next manger, in reality I don't think it really matters, if we stay up we don't have the cash to compete, if we go down we will disappear. Having said that as a competive football club offering any sort of entertainment Everton disappeard years ago!

As someone said, it's comedy club time.

Edit: Hahahaha - Colin's post just popped up as I was posting!

What happened to the work behind the scenes the last few months on transfers and what we need?

We couldn't organise a piss up in a brewary!

What a shit show.

Operation panic stations. I fear anyone we approach can name their terms which we cannot afford so we will end up turning to Duncan F. Sack the manager who didn't have enough experience and replace him with someone who has. none at all (but he 'gets the club'). Genius

We are the Home for the Bewildered.

Apparently the medical was Friday so it should have been announced that he was our player on Friday.

I did say once Lampard got sacked Danjuma wouldn't come because surely Lampard spoke to Danjuma this month about coming here?

The club is a waste of time and waste of space, sooner the better someone just turns off the lights at Everton and triple locks the door the better.

I doubt very much that outside of each transfer window Everton do any due diligence. Each window we seem to be caught with our trousers down around our ankles. Like scared rabbits in headlights.

Say what you want to say about managers but this negligence is down to the board. The lack of planning, foresight, vision, preparedness etc.. is mind boggling. Do these people actually hate Everton? It seems so to me.

I tell you if Jesus walked into Goodison right now, with the intention of saving the club, he'd put on a satan mask and sneak out the back door, once he'd seen what was actually going on.

How proud must our owner and board be. Can't we, the fans, form FC of Everton and start again !! It would be much easier.

We always get the fifth or sixth choice...

Couldn't agree more, you listen to lots of work going on behind the scenes the last few months from the manager etc.. on what players are needed then come transfer window nothing happens, and when something does happen we take to much time and can't get it right!

We all know what will happen now is panic buying again as it is the last week so will end up with another Maupay or Mcneil type of signings, backwards with dead wood once again.

As you say it is mind boggling how this club is run, never seen anything like it.

Kenwright saying the other night we need to win games! How long did it take him to think of that solution I wonder, so deluded.

Spot on mate.

Would any of us go and work for a company that was close to going under?

I think we all know the answer to that question.

Looks like Gordon is off this week to Newcastle too, no doubt where he'll be properly coached and Eddie Howe will improve his game.

I think this club has already accepted it's fate this season and is arguably planning for Championship football in August.

One thing out about him:

A move to Nice fell through when he failed a medical. Dieng has since returned to the first team squad with Marseille – making 10 appearances in Ligue 1 this season.

So failed medical will fit right in with Everton!

Can we have a live forum. It's all to scary to be alone these days, listening to the EFC news. I need the solace of live gallows humour to see me through until the new dawn arrives.

Good luck to him - he obviously has his head screwed on the right way.

Ultimately I can't really blame him. Sit on the bench at a top six club or play every game for us in a relegation scrap that will get more and more miserable? Take the money and run, or rather sit down, lad.

They may be snakes in the grass, but they know how to highjack a deal, from a bunch of ditherers

What's the point in going out on loan if you're not going to play?

The kid is a grade 1 knobhead.

Not sure what’s going to happen now other than moving from the denial stage and onto the next step of acceptance in the relegation process.

Signing players on extended contracts enables Chelsea to spread the player's transfer fee over the life of that deal when submitting their annual accounts.

That means £89m signing Mykhailo Mudryk will be valued at £11m a year over his eight-and-a-half-year deal.

Uefa is to set a five-year limit over which a transfer fee can be spread.

Clubs will still be able to offer longer deals under UK regulations but will not be able to stretch transfer fees beyond the first five years.

The change to FFP rules will come into force during the summer and will not apply retrospectively.

I have just seen the same on various reports now that's why Everton couldn't announce as nobody in the media department know about the sacking.

I was listening to Talksport this morning, and I think it was Jim White who said that perhaps us fans should now drop any more planned protests against the board, and get fully behind the team. FFS, this is going to make things against the board a damn sight worse. Whose fault is this, exactly? Five days to complete a deal, and next minute whoosh, he’s gone.

There is a planned march by the way, before the Arsenal game, starting at 11.30am from the Royal Oak and marching up Spellow Lane to Goodison. Gotta feeling this is going to get really toxic next week if we don’t get any forwards in.

If he goes off our signings from last January, he will see what happened to El Ghazi and Dele Alli… top that off with no manager and the fans up in arms and then get offered Champions League football under Conte and it really is a no-brainer.

And yet two days ago it wasn't his decision? What a complete clown he is

And more importantly don't get there too early for the Arsenal game, or you might be roped in to replace him.

Just had a chilling whatsap saying if a manager isn't appointed by then. Sharpie will take charge of the team ?

Under normal circumstances I would have laughed and treated it as a joke.

I say we sue the prick and sue Spurs for making him break the contract. We'll take £30 million and Richarlison and Richarlison's pay for 2 years in recompense.

More like Fred Karno's !

If I was Thelwell i'd walk and get another job.

This club is finished under board and owner.

That was despite medical, media and agreements all in place.

That comment failed to show that any player who is contacted by Everton will be aware of the mess that the Owner and Board have the club in, and for us to sign any player they will wait and see if any other club comes in for them and before signing for Everton, or check to see if it is really not that bad at his present club.
This player has just signed for Tottenham with the knowledge he will not be a starter for them when he would have started for Everton, and to me it is disgraceful that average players don't want to come. to Everton F.C.

Alan Myers reporting Gordon in talks with Newcastle

This was his view on why he signed back in August:

In an interview with Sport Magazine, Amadou Onana said, “Honestly, I love the coach (Frank Lampard) and I could tell you a lot about him but he’s the man who convinced me to continue my adventure here [Everton].”

“I would have never come to Everton because the former star, Frank Lampard was coaching there. He was an exceptional player, but I don’t sign for a club because of the name of its coach.”

“[I joined] For his good ideas, though. That’s where he seduced me. When I spoke to him, I realised he was a fascinating man.”

“I liked the feeling we had. I like the way he talked to me, the way he talked about football.”

probably not in all likelihood just dithered

Whats that saying ( when it rains it pours )

The Gordon and Onana story suggest we're now in freefall. Pickford's mobile must be melting down...

Still, we've had some good times.

FUCK OFF KENWRIGHT

Is Richy available on loan?…..

I wonder what the players are thinking? With 1-2 exceptions (Seamus and Tom) the rest are probably thinking about what PlayStation game they’ll be on tonight and should they post it on social media?

In the event he wouldn't have been right for us and got his finger out. I can't see anyone who comes on a loan being right and prepared to fight for us particularly if Bielsa arrives and adopts his policy of a fast fit game plan. Not against him coming however. He would shake a few wasters up and might be able to get a tune out of some of the others.

It should be interesting between now and the end of the season and, I hasten to add, bloody hard to watch.

Finally Kenwight should be shown the door and take some others with him if we are to have any chance whatsoever.

This is all happening while the ship is rudderless, who knows what will happen next.

I bet they are better at yodel than football!
I'm sure the other players are keeping a very low profile

No encouraging information re. replacement manager on the back of seemingly no contingency planning for such. Jim White back blowing farts, dry bummed by Levy again, club's reputation in tatters, Sharpie rumoured to be a back-up emergency manager.

How's the club shop doing?

Someone needs to change the batteries.

Evertonians have to start considering the fact that there is no Heaven...Imagine that ?

KENWIGHT OUT!
BARRETT-BAXENDALE OUT!

It all just further illustrates what a group of lazy, irresponsible, incompetent losers we have running our club.

So its Gordon to Newcastle, (as Brian #138 says £25m plus £15m in add ons and I heard Ryan Fraser coming our way), Onana to Arsenal and Pickford and DCL to God knows where. The size of the fees and the nature of the deals will tell us how bad our financial situation really is.

Getting a really bad feeling about this.

If we go on this way the only players we'll have left are those who have been crocked for a couple of months and who can't limp out of Finch Farm fast enough.

On the sales - I reckon we'll get £10 million for Gordon, £8 million for Pickford and DCL will go for £50 quid and a free seat at Brentford.

Of course Biden and Moshiri will have a lot to mumble incoherently about, one left £85 billion worth of kit for the Taliban, the other left a half-built stadium for the RedShite to buy for next to nothing.

'Tell me anyway–Maybe I can find the truth by comparing the lies'
Lev Davidovich Bronstein

we are truly fucked.

no doubt Gordon will be sold, but that money will vanish. Onana may well be sold, and that money will vanish.

and Allardyce will become our manager.

I absolutely hate being an Evertonian

KENWRIGHT OUT

Spurs are masters of the business skills, and just like about 5 years ago, with Newcastle and Sissoko, pipped Everton, at the finishing post.

Gonna be some tempestuous week, and looking a massive challenge, for whoever takes the job, if that is the case.

Time to stay firm, in the face of increasing adversity and anti Everton media shite.

UTFTs!

Although, of course, as Arteta has demonstrated, playing young lads like Saka and Nketiah will never get you anywhere.

And for Steven, I think we need the training staff to be selected from the likes of Felix Dzerzhinsky, Nikolai Yezhov or Lavrenty Beria (the last of whom was reported to be very fond of children too).

Surely after this latest, lowest depth of failures, Everton, can’t fall any more...

But there’s a week of the window left, but who knows what’s going to happen, next.

The one bit if context is that he's nearly 27, and Villareal are happy to loan him out mid season. He failed at Bournemouth previously. I am thinking he's nothing that great anyway (el ghazi mk2). Probably why we scouted him...

If so this looks like capitulation in terms of the playing side, in terms of building a team. No takers for the deadwood, yet..

Fekkn, incredible if the rumours turn out to be true, but this is Everton FC,2023.

We are absolutely f***ing clueless.

Sack the whole damn lot of them.

We are less at square one than in the dustbin after the dog ate the dice and someone poured a gallon of shit over the board.

Mark, you've left out the "And VAR will continue to ignore blatant handballs, vicious leg breaking tackles and offsides if committed against Everton, but will find reasons to call offside for Everton players putting the ball in the opposition net" (Actually the last one isn't true, we don't have any players who can do that so the anti-Blue offside VAR doesn't apply this yea).

Mismanagement on the highest scale.

Lions and donkeys as the phrase goes. The donkeys will remain in place.

Spurs seem to be taking the piss too.

Everything tells me we should get Dyche in to organise us, with Baines and Ferguson helping and bringing back some pride and spirit into the squad

Sign a couple of experienced players, one for the midfield and a forward who can lead and help the team through this horrible time and I would certainly involve at least a couple of our best young players.

It is now about sensible management, simple tactics and instilling some pride, confidence and motivation into the team.

We now need to get the basics right and start to calm things down.

if it was Messi or Ronaldo I would be a bit more upset but now we are being shafted by a player that couldn't score for Bournemouth!

Sure I read the other day that he wouldn't play for Moyes. I wonder if he knows more than we do.

Gordon off to Newcastle is a rat leaving the ship. Local lad and all that.

Carragher putting the boot in.

Could things get much worse.

We do have the ingredients to create a siege mentality at the club for the rest of the season.

We must really be in the proverbial with the profitability rules and Lampard's payoff.

Bill are you still getting phone calls to ask what would Everton do?

Thoroughly depressed.

That’s tomorrow’s bad news no doubt.

Tranmere will probably end up in BMD as we won’t at this rate

As far as BMD goes I think it's the world's biggest bouncy castle and doesn't really exist.

Baines and Tait

Everton should nail this piece of shit to the wall tie him up in litigation so he can't play for Spurs or anyone else - three or four years of fucking about with lawyers should do it - and watch his career disappear sitting in a court rather than alongside a football pitch. A nice piece of litigation motivated solely by malice would go down well amongst a lot of football supporters, I would suggest.

Will it be a sacking or resignation?

Regardless, he doesn't want to play for us and that's not exactly what we need right now. Plus, from an ethical point of view, can you really blame him? We've just sacked the manager that presumably he agreed to come and play for. For all he knows he could be playing kick and run for Allardyce if he joined us.

It's just another day at Everton. No new lows... just another in a series of lows.

Best we get a manager tied down so 'incoming' players know who they'll be playing for, eh?

What would Everton do...

Examples are Mina, DCL, Garner, Delph, Holgate, Townsend - I'd except Gomes because he really did get done over by Son, and came back remarkably quickly but was never the same. In fact, stuffing Spurs for the damage done to Gomes would seem to be a form of revenge on them too.

The suit would be put forward with the sole intention of fucking up Danjema's career and Spurs' prospects for the season. Not that anyone would ever say so...

What do you mean?

The ongoing level of incompetence over recent years is almost impossible to fathom. It can't be... but by God, things are far from right.

I’ve been thinking a lot recently about is this a giant money laundering scheme? Are we literally being taken to the cleaners?

You can't disappear until you get to tell me off again.

The idea was it was discovered that if a play failed, the tax authorities would not bother looking into the financing and so would not discover that shares issued for investments in the play amounted to more than 100% of the assets.

They then searched for a play that was guaranteed to fail and, of course came up with the wonderful "Springtime for Hitler".

It would be entirely implausible for anyone to think that the financial crashing of a football club could end up with assets being laundered through a bankruptcy process.

The two main characters involved in the film were a cowardly accountant and a fat, over-the-top luvvie stage producer. So totally implausible...

So no similarities whatsoever...

The owner of Everton F.C. is the majority shareholder, and you can find out who sold their shares and to whom, who became the majority shareholder and became owner of Everton F.C.

As for the Russian gentleman who keeps getting mentioned on here. With the amount of different governments that have placed sanctions on him and his companies, I believe it would be very difficult for him for his name to be on owning shares, and also sanctions would be placed on persons selling them to him.

Mal 262# can we get any lower? Yep. We don't even try to survive.

There was a shot towards the end of the game against WHU, were Bill Kenwright sat on his own watching the end of the game. The seats next to him empty, no board, no Moshiri, just him and I thought, he has been cut adrift, he isn't making the calls anymore, Moshiri is. Lampard got the call from Moshiri, not Kenwright. It would appear the bromance is over. Moshiri is cutting ties.

No matter who is supposed to be in charge when you fire a manager and his coaches and you never had anyone to replace them you must have excepted the consequences. And it disgusts me that someone who continually says how much he loves Everton, will not stand up to the owner and resign. But I suppose he is not willing to admit he is a coward..

In terms of Gordon. Will be a huge loss. All of our attackers lost form, but getting him back into form would be key for whoever our next manager will be in any hopes for survival

He will likely thrive at another club and we'll sit here lamenting getting a pittance. The fee quoted is what is paid for Championship forwards.

And any money we get will disappear. Looks like an attempt to sort the books and avoid financial sanctions when we go down.

No money from any Gordon fee will go into buying anyone.

But they can say Townsend returning from injury is 'like a new signing '.

Utterly depressing.

Source?

I had the same thoughts and said exactly the same in my post 147. I don't know if Moshiri is thinking more about selling what assets we have in order to keep the stadium build on track, or he is thinking these players are worth a lot more now than if we go down, so cash in now.

I think you are right that Moshiri is now making all the decisions and isn't even bothering to inform the board before making those decisions. Apparently those in the know say he told the press about Lampard's sacking before he told the board. Also reports are suggesting that he wants Bielsa despite the board and the DOF wanting Dyche.

I am also sure somewhere in the background Usmanov will be advising Moshiri as he has done from day 1. We saw pictures of Moshiri in Qatar with a prospective investor/buyer, but he and Usmanov know that should Everton go down the club will be worth next to nothing, and the only tangable saleable item would be the new stadium. My worry is that if things go pear shaped quickly maybe they would sell the ground to a 3rd party to lesson their losses.

I've posted this numerous times now but we are not getting six or seven wins, so we're not staying up. As rubbish as that is, it does take the immediate pressure off in terms of signings and results.

What next from this basket-case club???

“One very famous football club said to me two or three days ago 'whenever we have a problem we say 'what would the Everton board do because they always get it right?'"

Whoever said that was clearly laughing at him and he is so arrogant he didn't realise.

The world now knows what we knew already – that he is the biggest fraud in football and the media are slowly coming round.

What staggers me more than most things is the absolute scattergun approach to this. In business, we have to have 3-year and 5-year plans. We have focus, direction, leadership and a strategy.

Whilst there is a load of paper talk we can dismiss so far today I've read we are linked with Biesla, Dyche, Hasenhüttl (dare I say it) Allardyce and Frank.

As it has been said on here many times already why wasn't a shortlist drawn up before the World Cup so if the inevitable happened we had a back up lined up to replace Lampard. But no - we dither and wait and only start the search now. It was hardly a surprise Lampard would be sacked but it is apparent we had ZERO shortlist drawn up or approached any manager.

Other clubs exit a manager and the next day have the new guy in situ - certainly within a few days. Not us - we only start the search after the manager is fired when we need new players in before the window shuts that's why we have lost out to Danjuma and who could blame him.

I hope I am wrong but you can see it a mile off it's Rooney or Ferguson - Kenwright's dream team backed up by Tony Hibbert, Franny Jeffers and JonJoe Kenny as the back room staff.

How to destroy 150 years worth of history and bankrupt a club which is what we are looking at if we go down given the new ground costs - that's his legacy!!!!

The only solace I am taking in all of this is I don't have to see his face ever again on the big screen at Goodison as he is now persona non grata!

Sitting tenant.

Him and Outtara will at a lot of pace and quality to their attack.

It really wouldn't surprise me if we don't recruit at all this window.

On that score, it is worrying that Danjuma wasn't wanted by Moyes and he has now done a runner to Spurs.

If Gordon wants to go then let him and get the best price.
Onana will be going nowhere this window but come the end of the season, who knows – we know money talks and for all we know Onana may have clause that if we go down he can leave and don't forget Everton have to pay 20% of any profit to his former club.

Manager more important than players now - need someone with balls to put some belief and fear in the side. Dyche if Moyes not available

Just that simple, case closed. Nothing to see here, go and seek other options.

I'm a lawyer, can't help myself!

This youngster has some excitement about him.

The page will want a log-in to view the "Full Match". Click on "Highlights" instead. Lewis first appears on the video at around 4:40.

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For me personally, as soon as I verbally agree something (or shake on it in pre-covid world) there would have to be something very bad and against spirit of my hand shake in a contract for me not to go through with it.

Even then, I've always found others compromise when asked to.

I honestly don't know why he was coming to us in the first place if he had options, but I'm sure the last few days simply tipped the balance.

Your last paragraph is partially correct though; if that bothered me I wouldn't have agreed to come to begin with. That's the difference though, once I'd agreed it, I would NOT renege unless something the other side said turned out to be false.

All I can say is that it is a good job he has gone elsewhere then if that is how he acts!!!! Sometimes I can easily comprehend why I can't stand most of the footballers of today!

To be fair to the club, it's not their fault. If the lad has given his word, completed paperwork, come in for a medical and been all set to come in for his first training session, there's not much more you can do.

If he wants to warm the Spurs bench for 6 months, then he can go right ahead.

No "forms to the FA", no "I had my fingers crossed" or any other nonsense. My view remains that we should, and with utmost malice, immediately sue Danjuma and his agent, and throw a spanner into Spurs' attempt to sign him.

From a bit of reading around today, he sounds like another Pogba (but with no talent) in that he is trouble in the changing room. In which case, watching his career leak away month after month as he is prevented from playing due to the contractual case taking forever to get to court would be an excellent example to a large number of other players and might redress the balance somewhat.

You never know, we might even make a decent settlement out of Spurs who would try to drop him like a hot potato but who have already acted dubiously.

I remember a case I was involved in where the lawyers were arguing about "the group of causes of action that are commonly known as economic torts. In particular, this note examines the torts of inducing or procuring breach of contract, causing loss by unlawful means, intimidation and conspiracy." (That's from Reuters but it was the essence of the argument) I'd say Spurs would be very hard pressed to avoid that one. As to compensation, I'd say Spurs should be good for the entire TV revenues that Everton stand to lose due to relegation.

Charles(#317); In the words of Sam Goldwyn-"A gentleman's agreement ain't worth the paper it's written on".

In this case there would be. It will be full of clauses.

We'll see if there's anything in there about transfers being registered. I would imagine there would be. Especially after Leicester got stung on deadline day a few years back.

Lower league, British players are the answer Blues!

What an absolute shitbag. He should be banned for life, or made to play for us for a year - whichever a judge considers the harsher punishment,

Is that even allowed?

Ziyech? And the theory is, he will score the goals we need. Where is the proof of this?

It may be the only hat trick Everton get this season.

A contract is a contract.

Ernie, I cannot imagine even Everton would have signed a contract which included clauses which said the player could just ignore it if he felt like. There may have been conditions about publicity appearances, TV image rights and stuff, but it is not possible that a commercial contract could be signed which could be broken just because someone felt like it. Footballers employment contracts have been going since the game turned professional and it is impossible that they are not watertight once signed.

That bit of worry aside, coaches, players, and supporters love him over there. According to local reports, Lewis puts in a shift too.

He turned 20 couple of weeks ago. Next season, need to find him a Championship team (Hopefully not us). Then 2024-2025 season into the 1st Team.

Speaking of our youngsters, would like to see Simms work his way into some meaningful minutes. If whoever replaces Frank doesn't feel him ready, I think he should go back to Sunderland, where he was a regular.

Also, why the return of Onyango? He's still way too raw for Prem play. Other than his size, we're not talking 19-year old Fellaini here.

Burton Albion are terrible, but Tyler DID work his way into the starting rotation after beginning with lots of DNPs. And showing improvement. Whereas he looked lost when he was first played there.

I definitely think he can go up to the Championship. If Everton do stay up, then maybe he can stay at Derby if they progress?

Simms needs to play. I'm also not sure why Onyango is dropping back down to Under-21 football after playing half a season at senior level.

"Dobbin's huge credit

Lewis Dobbin was born in Stoke before joining Everton at the age of 11 and one wonders which side of the Potteries beats in his heart.

But his cameo performance here deserves singling out because his contribution was vital to what was a thrilling fightback. He created both goals for David McGoldrick and Nathaniel Mendez-Laing with searing wing-play to which Vale had no answer.

And this came after he had missed a golden opportunity to level himself when Craig Forsyth fed him the pass of the night with 15 minutes remaining.

But rather than let his miss kill his confidence, he demonstrated courage to keep demanding the ball at every opportunity. He didn't go into hiding as he picked out McGoldrick to level and then embarked on a lung-bursting run just moments later to tee up Mendez-Laing for the winner.

All you ask from your substitutes is for them to have an impact and Dobbin certainly did in what were an electric 20 minutes."

So a player may well sign a contract but until the player registration transfer is completed the new club does not actually 'own' the player and a contract may well not be enforceable.

Don't know for sure having not seen a player's contract or been involved in transfer dealings. I'd like to see one though having an interest in contract law.

"A contract is a contract" except when it isn't, look at how many cases go to court over contract disputes.

Move on, stop worrying about things that are out of our control, there's enough going on currently to not worry about a rat.