How will we even get there?

I have heard it said that, although Liverpool were down in the doldrums when Bill Shankly took over, they had a very passionate fanbase that were absolutely desperate for success, and this is how I view Everton Football Club right now.

Not many football clubs would still be playing Premier League football after the shite they have had to endure over the last few seasons. Villa are flying now, but I knew they were going down in September, after watching Everton destroy them in during the final season of David Moyes.

Although it's been horrible, and a lot of us must have been mentally preparing ourselves for Championship football, the fact is, the great Evertonians continued to rally-round, so whoever purchases Everton is buying so much more than just a football club, imo.

Everton FC are an English institution, so don't let anyone tell you otherwise!

I liked your post better than Scott's, but I think many outsiders – not Evertonians – will view his as the more accurate.

Our football club has been hit by enough storms to have broken half a dozen clubs. We have been run by people who would have sunk any other club in world football. We've lost everything we held dear – nearly.

I'm not even sure if we will own the stadium by the time we move into it. What I am sure of is that you and hundreds of thousands like you will stand resolute. The club remains an institution because of you.

Whoever decided to play "We Shall Not Be Moved" before Everton games all those years ago must have been able to read the minds of people who hadn't even been born yet.

Until good management can restore the fortunes of this club, we (the fans) are all that's left of Everton.

JLATTSBTWS

I think your view and analogy is very sound. It is a case of 'when' not 'if'.

I have no doubt that the passionate and knowledgeable fans Everton has the benefit of attracting will show how it is done as and when there is a trophy parade again.

This fan base has stubbornly refused to stand down or be moved. Despite the trauma of the past few seasons, we wouldn't give in, and that must have resonated onto the pitch.

We are about to go again. Let's give Goodison a blue smoked send off before we head to the Grand New Lady.

Always the optimist, who says we can't make Europe? It wasn't long ago Villa were in the Championship. I think we've got the right manager for where are now and just need the ownership sorting out. We're too big an opportunity.

My analogy was more aimed at the club’s financials, and the general murkiness that is bound to afflict a club that has been owned by Usmanov and his bag man.

I suspect that the withdrawal of The Friedkin group was the accounting equivalent of getting underneath a 2013 Mercedes E-Class and finding rot that wasn’t apparent on the surface.

We might need to change hands twice before we can go from where we are now to being a proper ‘shiny’ club.

When you are fucked, you usually have two options: roll up your sleeves, or put your hood up and then curl up in a ball. So, if Richard Masters and his merry men are getting ready to give Everton another points deduction, it wouldn't surprise me if some clever Evertonians file a lawsuit against the Premier League for approving people who are not fit enough to run our football club, even though they passed the fit and proper ownership test!

Our greatest glory is not in never failing, but in rising every time we fail.

Aaaagh! Confucius, he talk too much!!! Back to the drawing board!

Prospective owners learn from that and will take pleasure in screwing Moshiri to the wide, deservedly.

Whether or not in today's world of effective UK government support of mega-wealthy global cabals screwing the UK population without constraint prevails is a mystery.

Steve Rotheram, 62, is a Labour politician who is now the mayor of "regional Liverpool" (not the city of Liverpool) and admits to always having been a 100% Koppite, yet he has always repeatedly gone for years on public record as supporting the new stadium project and thereby our club.

Now, hopefully, with a new Labour government on record of having said they want to pay more than the mere lip-service the Tories gave to, ahem, levelling-up, we and the city of Liverpool can (very) shortly look forward to UK government backing in terms of transforming the north Liverpool waterfront at least, with BMD as its catalyst.

If not we're truly bolloxed – far far more seriously than Moshiri in his worst nightmares can imagine.

........ inadvertently unexpectedly falling to his death from a penthouse balcony in Monaco apart of course!

I can't remember where, but I definitely read it.

As you say with the new Everton Stadium at the centre of it.

Now for those transport links.

Or a fall from his yacht, like Murdoch.

I think you'll find it was Robert Maxwell who fell to his death from his yacht.

Rupert Murdoch is still very much alive (93).

Danny, if you look on Google at RE-Invest or just enter “North Liverpool Regeneration” there's quite a bit of information on what proposals are in place for North Liverpool.

Planning consent has already been given for certain projects. Quite interesting. The owner of The Bramley Moore pub must be in dreamland!

I said that about the Bramley Moore pub the first time we went there. They are sat on a gold mine.

I always get them mixed up!!

It should be called… answers please, TWebbers.

£100 Million, is the estimated cost, and is supposedly one of four new stations that Steve Rotherham has pledged to build.

You're talking about the former St James Station which closed in 1917 and will be reincarnated as Liverpool Baltic at, as you say, the staggering cost of £100M!

In 2018, Maghull North cost ~£13M with a car park the size of Goodison. Baltic lies in a deep cutting and will be difficult to construct but the cost is immense.

As for a new station to serve the new stadium at Bramley-Moore Dock, this has scarcely had a mention since the days of Joe Anderson. We'll have to make do with a bit of access improvement at Sandhills.

It's just a shame we are not still in Europe because I'm sure the club and the city might have been helped with a big grant, but something has got to be done which will probably combine with them also building a new station for Liverpool FC, which will probably be built on the ground that was next to the old Clarence public house.

I went to a viewing 6 months ago, 95% of the building remains a wreck. It will take a development company with very large pockets to even contemplate converting it into anything like a viable concern.

Whilst we have a couple of chippies outside the ground and Danny can't get a pint at half-time from the bar. I really dislike Sodexo.

I am really hoping that we have put some thought into that area of the new stadium at Bramley-Moore Dock. The card transaction numbers they hinted at (note, no values given) were huge. So it would be good to be able to walk up to the counter and get served in a reasonable manner.

There are also three sets of flats getting built opposite the Titanic Hotel as this area starts slowly coming back to life.

In railway parlance, it is 'Up' to London and 'Down' to the rest of the country; nothing will ever give as much to the UK as is enjoyed by London.

Touchside at Bramley-Moore Dock

They are trialling them in Perth, Western Australia

Perth ART Trial

Trackless Trams Business Case

I can't believe this will happen when the Hunts Cross to Southport line already covers these 4 (?) stops.

Surely just putting on extra match day trains would suffice.

Hope you are well mate.

The distance between James Street and Sandhills is a fair hike. Believe me, I had to get my skates on from the Bramley Moore to get to Lime Street just in time.

I used the Hunts Cross station to get to Kirkdale frequently. But as far as I know, there are no stations near the new Everton stadium.

Instead of battling through the Fiveways traffic and driving along Queens Drive before parking on Cherry Lane, I will instead be going on the train from St Michaels to Sandhills. It is then just 4 stops (approx 10 minutes) which I think are Brunswick, Central, Moorfields then Sandhills.

The walk from Sandhills is also only about 10 minutes. Unless of course you stop for some refreshment at one of the many, many locals that are popping up around there.

So many people are going to be changing habits and routines they have done for years. We have to embrace it I know, but that doesn't make it any less strange.

So many pubs in L4 have already gone and once we move I fear the smaller shops will go the same way.

I hope Barnes Travel survives. So many aways arranged by them for me and my mates in our younger years. A real local legend in the football landscape of Merseyside. Right up there with Jack Sharp's.

Ahhh, the dog crud waltz, I know it well. 😂

Where is this extra Rolling Stock going to come from. where will it be held?

How will it fit in between existing services - especially at peak evening times.

How will the empty trains be recirculated to pick up the next lot of passengers

Where will it be 'parked' while the game is on? Where will it go when the game is finished?

Where will the extra staff come from to run them? And, last but not least.

Who will pay for both staff and trains?

It's sometimes sad but it's also very true that life moves on and this is why I think it's imperative that Everton start laying down some new foundations and create a new area that stretches from Bramley-Moore Dock all the way into town, taking in the whole north side of the city centre.

With regards to the takeover, and after hearing news that the club, might have just become unsellable, when are those people at the Premier League going to step in?

They were quick enough to tell everyone that they didn't want to punish the fans when six clubs tried to break away, so surely they can't punish Everton again, when the only thing that is apparent is that no Everton fans want Moshiri at our club because he has shown he his not capable of running the club in a fit and proper way – even though he somehow passed the league's fit and proper person test.

These types of tram could get to the very edge of town (by the side of the Crowne Plaza Hotel) around 600-800 metres away from the two Moorefields stations, and a similar distance to James Street Station.

And they could go the other way, stopping around 400 metres short of Sandhills, opposite the current Audi car showrooms.

I currently get the train from Huyton to Lime Street and then the football bus from Commutation Row. If I can hang on for the new stadium, I'll probably do the same, rather than walking to and from Sandhills. I think for all of us, it will be a case of suck it and see which method suits us best.

It is an easy 15-minute walk to Sandhills (I've done it and I'm in my 70s). There'll be shuttle buses to Bootle and the city centre and probably Sandhills, too.

Sandhills has 24 trains an hour Monday to Saturday and about 18 in the evening and on a Sunday. 12 to Liverpool and 4 each to Kirkby, Ormskirk and Southport. Also, Merseyrail are now trialling 8-car 777s on the Southport line.

Talking of which, you never see much about how people are actually going to get to this new stadium of ours if we are still running by then!

Travelled from Australia season before last to see us surrender to an average Fulham side. Of course there should be suitable arrangements in place for travel to the stadium, and your comments are justified.

It's just that you may not realise the privilege you have to be able to get to the games by whatever means. Taxi, bus, walk, at least you can attend the games in person and not rely on a trip of a lifetime just to see your beloved team play in one game.

A new station and / or a tram system makes sense.

Or walking shoes and trainers!

Either way, we'll get there.

Personally I have a feeling that momentum will gather, there will be a lot of interest in terms of travel.

I wouldn't be surprised if we have water taxis on the canal from Albert Dock with stops at the Pier Head, Crowne Plaza, Malmaison… maybe even the new Isle of Man Steam Packet terminal.

In terms of extra rolling stock for trains? Bank Hall and the Kirkdale depot are only minutes away.

It's Sandhills, Bootle Strand, Lime Street and a fleet of soccer buses!

It's the road system that needs to be vastly improved.

People could park and cruise from the Wirral, which would lessen the amount of traffic around the area on match days.